As soon as the mother did nothing to help or protect them when the father started with the abuse and molested them, *she became a part of that abuse* so please stop saying she did nothing wrong. She was as bad as the father!
@@masumamiah101 I know right?! People are just like *ignoring* the fact that she knew all along and let it be like that. *She was as disgusting and evil as him.*
In those type of cases i would say the one thats not a sick fuck (the mother) to do nothing about it is even worse than the one thats fucked up in the head (the father) who probably dont think hes doing nothing wrong
i’m so sick of people judging them and blaming them for killing their parents despite knowing about the abuse they suffered from when all they ever wanted was freedom
They weren't 8, 9 or 11 y.o when they commited those crimes, they were around 18 and 21. They weren't poor, they had all the opportunities in terms of getting psychological/psychiatric help, in terms of getting a good lawyer to go against their father, in terms of seeking for professional help unlike poor people who depend on the public system (that you know it has never been good). They had higher education, so they both had more tools to find a way to take revenge legally. They decided to go the criminal way, they understood the criminality of their actions, they bought weapons two days prior to the killings, and during that time they didn't stop, but they continued pursuing their criminal act. Once they killed their parents they started to live a luxurious life, spending a lot of money in luxury items, showing no remorse at all... So, to me this goes beyond resentment, this was mostly criminal behavior and perhaps psychopath minds working together. It's heartbreaking to see them try to talk about S.A, but those sad expressions should be taken with a grain of salt, not forgetting their situations and privileges prior to the killings they decided to commit... Anyways, people can easily fall for a pretty face and an athletic body in tears, and this seem to be one of those cases. I think they both got what they deserved.
Jackie Powell ok well they lived the luxurious life style. So in that case I highly disagree. It’s not right they killed their parents but still very sad and traumatic what there parents put them through at such young ages.
tbh I only know this case from a UA-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@julietmota9205 woman, I think you got it wrong. Their father is the one who has money and will kill them if they report to a police or what. They want the abuse to be exposed, what their parents did to them, they all want it to be exposed but his father who has the money will kill them
You can see the look on the brothers face when they said they touched each other. Those kids were molded into whatever they are now. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the case but I wonder what age this started. The father and the mother sealed their own fates with how they treated those kids.
tbh I only know this case from a UA-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
1:26 The way she mockingly said that… made my blood boil. Just the humanity in her. There were none. These prosecutors needs to put humanity over their careers. The jury chose to help the abusers rather than the victims.
They weren't 8, 9 or 11 y.o when they commited those crimes, they were around 18 and 21. They weren't poor, they had all the opportunities in terms of getting psychological/psychiatric help, in terms of getting a good lawyer to go against their father, in terms of seeking for professional help unlike poor people who depend on the public system (that you know it has never been good). They had higher education, so they both had more tools to find a way to take revenge legally. They decided to go the criminal way, they understood the criminality of their actions, they bought weapons two days prior to the killings, and during that time they didn't stop, but they continued pursuing their criminal act. Once they killed their parents they started to live a luxurious life, spending a lot of money in luxury items, showing no remorse at all... So, to me this goes beyond resentment, this was mostly criminal behavior and perhaps psychopath minds working together. It's heartbreaking to see them try to talk about S.A, but those sad expressions should be taken with a grain of salt, not forgetting their situations and privileges prior to the killings they decided to commit... Anyways, people can easily fall for a pretty face and an athletic body in tears, and this seem to be one of those cases. I think they both got what they deserved when it comes to the sentence. They killed the person they blame for S.A. so that's another case, and the person they killed was not able to defend himself (you don't know if those S.A stories are real)... They called the cops in tears after watching a Batman movie... People judge the jury, but they know much better than you why they gave that sentence. You weren't there, you're just watching two pretty boys crying and that's the only thing you have to judge them. Ridiculous
I doubt they were sain enough to think about getting a lawyer Why would they show remorse for their rapists? Any one would become a psychopath if those were their "parents" So what if they had alot of money?no amount of money can justifie rape,they werent acting spoiled. By your logic, its your fault if you get raped if you can defend yourselves.
EXACTLY LIKE ITS DISGUSTING LIKE YES YOU FIND HIM ATTRACTIVE OK COOL BUT HES LITERALLY SUFFERING IN A JAIL CELL FOR SELF DEFENSE AND MENTALLY STRUGGLING WITH HIS TRAUMAS
Ppl who kill their abuser SHOULD NOT be guilty. That’s just not right 1/18/21 Edit: For all the ppl that are saying "but that's not right", "that should not be a reason to kill sm1" etc. He would've got killed in prison anyways or if not killed, tortured. So it really wouldn't matter anyways if they have just gone to the police.
What was the mother doing? It really boils my blood when one parent hides another parent’s bad deed for selfish reasons.Such parents who abuse their children should be publicly humiliated
@@tinni.e_xx4399 Stfu you sound like the type of person to question a sexual abuse victim. Everyone them accountable for what they did, you are no expert in psychology to identify a real and non real victim.
This case needs to be reopened. The way that they even forced them to say everything when they clearly were uncomfortable about talking about the sexual abuse.
@@mel_icka but the way they we’re forcing Erik to answer the questions while crying was so rude she should’ve let him take his time. You can tell he seemed uncomfortable with talking about the abuse.
@@crxz___1938 I know, in other videos u can see she learns from that. I think if u watch the videos from the perspective of knowing she was his lawyer and was trying their best to help him. She had to get every detail clearly from them so the jury don’t say they’re being manipulative so she tended to ask quick questions so they don’t have time to lie or make up a memory but yeah that particular question I think she shouldve waited. But at learning they actually became close because she was really trying to help it made it less cringe for me
They were abused. Their mom knew about it and turned an eye to keep her lifestyle. They did what they thought was their only way to escape. Very sad story.
Please, please, please link the proof of what your accusing. I've read comment after comment and the threads, yet not ONE person who alluded to any kind of proof that she had ANY knowledge or guilt whatsoever. In NO way am I trying to be rude or sarcastic. I am simply frustrated and stunned by so many eluding that their Mother was somehow at fault, like she deserved to be killed. IF there is links you could post backing up these claims then I will happily educate myself. However, without the evidence to back such HORRIFIC claims, are you truly okay with Victim Blaming? As I said before, I don't want to be rude, belittle, or become part of the problem of assuming....I simply am asking you to educate my obvious ignorance as to why these claims are acceptable.
Mozambitch Exactly! Beverly Hills is where everything bad happens. It’s the devil’s playground. Who would have guessed though. Anyway, you didn’t hear it from me. Jolly well! 🥂🍺 Cheers and beers mates!
Their fucking parents should’ve rot in hell . These boys needs justice they shouldn’t be in jail they need justice this boils my blood and shattered my heart hearing everything 🥺
I can't imagine how embarrassing and traumatic it probably was to describe how your father sexually assaulted you in front of courtroom. That's so heartbreaking. I hope they both heal.
@Katherine Rain How would she be just as guilty tho? Maybe morally since she should have stopped it but she didn't (to my knowledge) abuse or harm the boys right?
@Katherine Rain that is not what I meant. Under the law maybe what the father did could be used against to reopen the case but what about the mother? She didn't abuse their kids physically, regardless of innocence she didn't do what the father did. But obviously I agree with what you are saying, but it doesn't justify their actions under the law then.
i’m here from that one tiktok “but mama i’m in love with a criminal “ and i know it’s very wrong they shouldn’t be sexualized and it’s horrible i was just implying that i was here from a tiktok and i’m sorry if it came out the wrong way. they are traumatized human beings pls get help if u sexualized them. THEY ARE VICTIMS AND SHOULDNT BE SEXUALIZED!! they are murders i know but they are also victims
karrriney Right? It happens all the freaking time. I think its even more gross that it was a father touching his own sons. Molesting HIS own sons. Gay, incestual. Creepy.
tbh I only know this case from a UA-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@hiim_chloee same!! i'm honestly so confused about this case. i watched stephanie's video and i kinda got the impression that it was basically just the brothers being spoiled kids, but now i keep hearing people talk about how they were abused and/or sexually abused (which is something stephanie mentioned, but said was just an allegation w/ no evidence). maybe I'm biased bc i watch a lot of her videos, but i'm leaning more towards what she said bc it just doesn't make sense to me why (if it was self-defense) they left to get more ammo and came back to shoot their parents more or why they would go on a shopping spree afterwards.
@@ghostly6007 Omg same!!! After I posted the comment I didn’t know if I was being insensitive or something but reading your comment made me feel better thx :)
GermanMartin MB I have no idea if it's true or not obviously I've done no research plus no one will really ever know the truth, but suppose it was real? You sound like you're actually the one whom is 10 just by telling someone to shut up about something they believe in, really immature kid.
I guess it means that they would expect something like that to come from the Midwest, but not Beverly Hills. Time has confirmed what we already knew. All those Hollywood sickos who live in Beverly Hills and morally grandstand over all of America are worst than the Midwest.
i’m so sorry for these boys. one of the closest people in my life at one point was sexually abused by their father and the anger i have will never dissipate. this is pure emotion from victims. this is not acting. i can feel the same trauma radiating off of them.
@@theamcdcshow4426 none they are lucky that they are still a live. It would be better if they get the same as their parents. They could tell someone but htey didn't they killed their parents
there is no real evidence of this ever happening. This is the same with the girl who killed her mom and was trending on tiktok because she was "pretty". Its the same exact story with no proof behind it. I'm not going to call an alleged victim a liar, but I won't point fingers on people either. At the end of the day, murder is never justified unless its self defense which in this case it wasn't. He just shot a bullet through the dad's head without any contact with him. In the case of the girl who was trending, she only killed the mom. So the dad has had experience with her giving more context to the story. In this case however, we never know whether its true because theres no actual context. I will say though, saying that you were raped and abused by someone is usually aimed to get a lesser sentence. So theres that. In the defense of the storyline of being sexually abused, proving rape or any such thing is hard to prove at all. Especially when the person who was the alleged rapist is dead. So there's also that.
tbh I only know this case from a UA-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@hiim_chloee i dont think that's true. they were victims of sexual assault and i am not saying its an excuse to kill anyone or whatever but I feel so bad for them. this case should be reopened and the boys should have been sent to a psychiatrist not jail.
Although what the brothers did was extremely wrong, hearing them describing what their parents did in such detail makes my heart sink. No child deserves any of this 😢
When they poured their hearts out and openes up it was a hung jury not a life setence. We don't have video of what happens in the second trial, was probably a diffrent defense. They said Lyle didn't even take the stand.
what the hell is wrong with you guys? First of all their is no real evidence that they were actually abused. Second of all even if they were they should not have killed their parents they could have called the police. These guys are cold blooded killers and it’s disgusting you guys will defend them
@@aced8121 listen Zack, I have done my research about this case! If you would’ve done some research, you would know that they were really scared of their father. They claim that their father has threatened to kill them if they’d try to run away from home again. Their mother knew about the abuse,she didn’t do anything about it! Even judges who were with them in court, said that there was no possible way they were acting like they were abused, they looked petrified and actually traumatized...so please do your research and don’t go and assume that they’re just psychos that killed their parents;))
@@aced8121 Well their cousin did say that when they were younger the brothers explained their experience and how it made them upset. So that’s evidence right there.
The prosecution is only wanting to bring the charges against the sons, regardless of her feelings. You surely have to be hard nosed to do this side of a job.
why would you ever feel bad for the parents after what they did? anyone who does anything like that to their children deserve anything that happens to them
@@brooklyn2812 I think that because the trauma they had w their parent they weren’t able to see another way to get out of there. If someone abused me I would also want to kill them, everyone had their own way of relief pain (I would kill myself maybe, but yea)
@@brooklyn2812 Think about this, yes killing their parents was not right, but you have no idea what their father could've held over them if they threatened to leave or tell someone, obviously their father had to keep them very close in case they did say something, obviously murder wasn't the right choice, but that was physical and mental torture. you cannot just leave and expect yourself to forget about it.
@@ravenyouritielsens9744 do you have any proof of that or are you just speculating because you don’t believe male survivors or sexual assault? like they said at the start, if one kid kills their parents that’s a bad seed, if two kids kill their parents that’s a bad family. they’d been acting out for years which is incredibly common for survivors of abuse, there has to be a reason for it. i’m not justifying their actions, but i think it’s important to understand their thought process
By definition it wasn’t self defense. It should’ve been reported to the police. I know it’s terrible and horrendous what their parents did to them but gunning them down was not the answer and should not be treated as the correct course of action. They were 17 at the time, they could’ve went to the police but they chose to murder them instead
@@stormnegele463 no one is saying what they did was the correct course of action it’s just that the punishment may be excessive given the circumstances
Yes there parents weren’t innocent but they could have handled it another way, if it was self defense they would have harmed or injured them then maybe they would have let it slide but they don’t and the straight up killed them and if they handled it a different way their parents would have life sentence and would be charged and the boys could have had therapy or some kind of help but to me that was not the way to go
as someone who has been molested, i can tell that they weren’t lying on the stand about anything they said. i could see all the same emotions i feel on their faces
I’m a mental health nurse and after readying their documentary and all of that, for me it was so obvious that they’re emotions were real and deep... I guarantee that they were saying the truth. The interviewer was so judgemental and fucked to be honest!! She should get fired :|
Its disgusting that their father got away with that for so many years and nothing was done. They should be sent to a psych ward for therapy not jail. They were sexually abused and emotionally and physically broken. Just sad
We know the justice most of the time act in favor to the disgusting father. We can not believe how the justice act in favor to the abuser man. The justice in everywherere act like garbage. How the justice sent to the prision even they know how the children suffer from they were very little children. Many time the justice are just garbage.
exactly! people beliving they killed mom for money is BS. there are a lot of moms in this world who turn blind eyes when her husbands abuse her kids. tolerate his action just to keep him or his money
I hate the fact how they went to jail for years but rapists only get 7 months, NO ONE should have to go through that at all NO ONE. They didnt do anything wrong
Rapist DO get jail for more than 7 months, if you didn’t know. Also, ik they killed there parents because they were sexually assaulted, but they also committed murder. So if your mad that they when you jail for murder, then that’s pretty stupid lol
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I feel bad for the Menendez brothers. Imagine living with trauma all your life. Being raped, sexual abused, and then they killed someone. It is something you couldn't forget easily.
For real, seeing their faces for years every single day and acting like a normal family. Like that's a long time, no wonder they killed them. I can't even stand looking at my sister's face after she physically assaulted me a few times.
@S J she never ever stopped the dad- when erik threw up after his dad came in his mouth his mom never asked if he was okay. it was only when he threw up from being sick. that’s just one thing she did wrong- she left her sons to be sexually abused by her husband. it’s DISGUSTING. killing is also very sickening, but both parties were so wrong in this.
HIS DAD abuses THEM and used them for his “sexual part” that’s horrible and the mother is just as bad as the father because she DIDNT do anything about it or try to help COULD you imagine going through that as a child/teen BUT it’s your FATHER doing that to u?! (I’m not saying what they did isn’t wrong) because murder isn’t the right way but they just wanted it to stop and you never know what’s going through their head “how long was it going to go on for” you know u can see in their face when telling that it was real and is real I rest my case
yes what happen to them was bad and no one should have to go through that, but don't stick up for them that much, because they did kill their parents, you would have been mentally ill or not right in the head to do that. they could have gone to the police. but I do see your point and I think that a part of what you said was right
Sienna Ayala the reason they were probably mentally ill was because on their house hold and what happened to them and that’s on period I ain’t picking up for them but if you went through that u feel like their is no other way for help and a way to get out!! You don’t know what they were feeling at the time
Don't forget the 15 shots to mom and the fact that they lied about it from the start. No matter what the reason, they were not living at home and shot their parents while they were watching tv and it was premedicated.
@@trebleclef3886 Gypsy-Rose Blanchard comes to mind and is walking the streets a free woman and “lying from the start” nor however many shots to-specifically for some reason- their mother’s head are luckily not how we gauge innocence in this country.
Respect??? Really??? That's a strange word to use for this situation, they murdered their parents. Why not just get the hell out, why wait all those years without saying anything? Oh right, they wouldn't have inherited all that money.
@@barbkearns3296 not that easy u idiot if you’re are young kid getting sexually abused,u don’t understand what that is at a young age so how are they supposed to just get out it’s not that easy
@@barbkearns3296 does it hurt being that dumb? you don't know anything about abuse. it's not easy to just "get out". also, the dad literally said he'd kill them if they told anyone. educate yourself
“They were brutally murdered” uh... they were shot. That’s it. People get shot every damn day. These guys were abused and used. You don’t understand the feeling of being stuck when in abusive situation. They are labeled these gruesome murderers, when they just wanted out.
@@hezzi2945 yeah... that’s what happens when using a shot gun, one of the most accessible guns available. They went in and just shot, not looking. But because it’s a shot gun, it will wide spread damage. It happens all the time.
that’s what I’m saying! A shot to the head is an easy way to go...those parents deserved to be tortured and to experience a slow and painful death. Nothing quite brutal about a gunshot.
I know right! They deserved much slower and more painful, prolonged deaths. There was nothing brutal about it, the way the media portrays this is insane.
I was in high school when this trail was going on and I couldn’t help but believe them. Sometimes rich kids have disgusting parents too. Not just meth heads.
dude. there’s no way they could’ve been lying. no ones acting is that good. it really broke my heart when they confessed about their abuse. there’s no way they were acting
Victims that if they claim “self-defense” then they could’ve told the police that, not go on a damn shopping spree that made them look like they killed them for money
@@abbysykes6673 I do, I know people who have been, there’s other ways to deal with it, things that help people escape, and it would’ve been different if it was when they were being abused they killed them, they they snuck up behind them with shotguns, that’s not self defense, self defense is when someone is trying to kill or severely injure you and you shoot and kill them, like a car jacking or home invasion, but it wasn’t they deliberately snuck up behind them, and like I said, they chose to be idiots and blow all that money they got, which is something that is VERY useful for prosecutors to use to convict, and it makes them think that was their motive, they could’ve done some things differently to avoid prison but they did what they did and have nobody to blame but themselves, and I hate how everyone says it was “self defense” and they were “victims” any other situation and it wouldn’t be said
For that woman at the end to say "Every Mother's Day she thinks about Kitty and what the boys did to her was pure unadulterated evil" IS OUTRAGEOUS --- WHAT SHE DID TO HER SONS WAS PURE UNADULTERATED EVIL!!! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND
@@stova9118 ware do you think it stated first? You think that it's okay for your father to abuse you and your mom not giving a DAMN the parents got off easy in my opinion.
@theotomeobsession yes, killing someone can never be justified, but, may i remind you theres something called suicide, and its something that happens after the abuse is too much, death can also be an escape from the living hell they go through... abuse leads to the said suicide, the last line that u said, death should never happen in the hands of someone else confused me, its like saying its ok to commit suicide after enduring the hell
@theotomeobsession The moment you create a child, you damn them to inevitable death. Why is that acceptable if this is not? I'll support the abused sons, not their disgusting, selfish parents.
“What they did to their mother was evil” WTF?!? No! What is evil is allowing your husband to abuse your TWO CHILDREN. The fact she stayed silent makes her just as, if not more then guilty!! They where HER CHILDREN it was HER JOB to PROTECT them! Any rights as a mother was taken away the minute she stayed complicit.
The female prosecutor interviewed this later admitted that she took a crime scene photo of the mother from evidence and keeps it as a memento! I don't think she's right in the head.
@Nope Nope It's not about fighting for parental rights, the OP just stated that in today's world, she would lose custody of her children for not protecting them.
Ikr, she's got her heart in the right place. People can call them bimbos, but their dad was a very brilliant lawyer and he's obviously passed that on to the kids.
@Merch www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/05/07/kim-kardashian-is-funding-legal-team-that-has-freed-inmates/ since you're just going to say some uninformed cocky comment. Here you go
Ikr. I would rather be poor than to be in that horrible situation. It is so painful to kill your parents that way... but it was more painful to have them as parents.
@@juburr9750 It’s a possibility, but he could have used self defense differently and could have injured them but they took it to far and now bc of that mistake they are now in prison
I remember seeing only a couple of times over the last 30+ years, in documentaries, that Jose got mad at the family dog, killed it, and put it's head in the refrigerator for all to see. That is demented. I wonder why it's been largely ignored.
100% not their fault, sure they murdered their parents, but their parents made them into the persons they are. They should have gotten help instead of a prison sentence. The parents were the evil ones.
I don't believe him. There is evil in him, and I honestly think he is lying. I've seen alot of people cry and lie like that, including myself. And their actions after killing their parents is also what leads me to believe they're lying. They spent their parents money, and never really took it upon themselves to leave, and you can say that they're broken all u want, it's no excuse, most serial killers would look at these guys like a joke. But I guess you'd need to actually do bad things and learn to know what I'm talking about.
@@walkingcorpse1224 First off they killed their parents, ok. Like what will be going through your mind if a GROWN man wanted you to do those things. (Run away or KILL) then to be 10!?!? On top of that find out your own brother did the SAME TO YOU?!?? Like your acting like this is normal and they don’t need to cry!?!
I'm literally sitting here crying because the fact that they had to kill their parents because they knew they could not just go against them and say this stuff is heartbreaking.
@@cutenessoverload96432 They shouldn’t have killed their parents and the lied about to evade punishment. Their are consequences for the actions we choose to make. For the murder of their parents that punishment is jail. The parents can’t legally be culpable for their alleged crimes because they are dead.
@@kaylinwhite6584 The father literally had pictures of them naked. Like OP said, a few years perhaps, but the court system did not take into account the abuse and instead took in only the murder.
@@sleepykid455 it simply does not matter as to what there parents did to them. They could have called the cops and got help or did anything else but kill them. That’s horrible and no way to save yourself.
“What they did to their mother was pure unadulterated evil” HAVE YOU NOT JUST HEARD WHAT THEY SAID? THEY ARE VICTIMS NOT KILLERS? FREE THEM THEY DESERVE JUSTICE!
when you look into Erik and Lyle's eyes, you don't see evil, you don't see hatred, and you don't see people who would kill their parents for money. you see victim, trauma, and a child at heart. Erik has PTSD, anxiety, and many more. Lyle used to have multiple stuffed animals. IN his 10th grade, he took a stuffed animal, and when he raised his hand, he used the stuffed animals hand. They asked for forgiveness in prison seeing a priest. Erik burst into tears asking "does god forgive me? does god forgive me? do my parents forgive me?". Erik and Lyle love their parents, with all their hearts. They said their father was a very powerful man, and their mother was an elegant woman. the abuse and the trauma they went through is so messed up, my heart just aches for them. they need justice. and they need it now. us menendez guardians already made it to New York Times, Fox11 news, and so many more things. we have and will be heard.
@@ChildrensRightsFirst947 it is but… think of it like this, if they didnt stop the bs that their parents was putting them through then they would’ve probably killed one of them. The boys were young and scared. They were traumatized. They had it made and just bc u got hella money and ya people are wealthy that still doesn’t change the fact of how you will be mistreated in the household that never everyone seems to know about or believe. && I’m ready for the hate comments cus Ik ima get some😭 it’s just the truth.
@Richard Okpala Also the government is quite disgusting. You can keep making dumb comments but that will not change the fact that the government is trashy.
The purpose of keeping people in prison isn’t about “protecting society” anymore. It’s about protecting the pride of these old, cancerous people who can’t admit they were wrong about the case. These brothers aren’t a threat to society in any way
They still killed they’re parents... even if you make the argument that they deserved it, it’s still not right. What happened to those kids is unforgivable I’m not denying it, but there are a multitude of better ways to go about it. They weren’t trapped obviously if they could go and buy some guns. They could have gone to the police or done something else.
@@ignzore you have never been abused, or been in the same position as those guys and I’m happy for you. But you need to understand that its not easy for people to just “go to the police”. They had this trauma building up since they were little children. Their mind is not like a ‘normal’ person anymore. They can’t make rational decisions because of their mental state caused my the trauma their parents put them through. They made impulsive decisions which should be forgiven since all that anger and trauma wasn’t their fault.
@@ignzore the police probably wouldn't have done anything anyway. abuses are very, very oftentimes swept under the rug, or unable to see because the parents act perfect when authorities are present.
@@ignzore of course it's not right and they are paying their debt to society and they've already done more than enough time, they deserve a second chance. They're not bad people. they were pushed by their parents to commit this crime
I live only like 2 minutes away from where this happened. I once visited the house. Game me some chills knowing that the schools I went to all my life we're close to where this happened.
Why did those brothers have to spend the rest of their life in prison for something their father did to them...They should have been put under protective custody and whisked away to somewhere they would be protected the rest of their life...NOT PUT IN PRISON..
It's very easy to accuse dead people. And even if they were really abused, it was a clear premeditaded murder, and the law is the law, life in prison or the death penalty for first degree murder. Also, it's a very strange thing for alleged abused victims to do, they could've gotten out of home or called the police, after all, they were legal adults, but no, they chose to blow their parents brains out and blame it on the mafia. Oh, maybe it's because their mother threatened to take them out of the will for being the pricks they were lol I'm glad these sociopathic liars are rotting in jail, the world is a better place because of it.
@@leoz2035 Its very easy to accuse people you don't know.
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Thomas LM They could have gotten 40 years and maybe learned their lesson too, possibly. I think they were likely abused because they did not appear to be acting. The premeditation angle makes it hard to say they did not kill them for the money.
Thomas LM so Thomas, you clearly don’t understand psychology, or the nature vs nurture argument about why people kill etc. Please watch more videos on this. Thank you
@@persephone153 The law isn't necessarily a direct representation of morality. It is a projection of morality for the benefit of society, or you could say a system designed to ensure stability and coherence within a particular set of rules, the backbone of society.
They were not kids, they were 18 and 21... self defense was not their first motive they killed because of money and they planned the murder beforehand and after that they lied too much. They killed them years after the alleged abuse so why would that be considered self defense 🤔
Sary M. Age doesn’t mean the mental damage goes away. The trauma can be enough for something like this to happen. They did it to themselves, the bastards deserved it. I hold no remorse for their parents.
@@loicmburanumwe5879 couldn’t agree more. Who’s to say they didn’t make these stories about “trauma” up. They seemed dysfunctional from the beginning when they were robbing people
Nah what they did to their parents was horrible but not evil. What their parents did to those boys WAS evil.
Micah Fairview but they abused them why would they do that it’s just messed up
@@claire1391 ahh so youre suggesting that they "had" to kill them then?
Micah Fairview it’s ok to take the life of evil people
@@micahfairview9463 no what they did to the parents wasn't bad enough
Serena Frausto I watched this whole thing and I don’t think the dad abused them. They were two greedy little bastards!
As soon as the mother did nothing to help or protect them when the father started with the abuse and molested them, *she became a part of that abuse* so please stop saying she did nothing wrong. She was as bad as the father!
Nae' Thank you !! I’m sick of people saying she was innocent. She is just as evil
@@masumamiah101 I know right?! People are just like *ignoring* the fact that she knew all along and let it be like that. *She was as disgusting and evil as him.*
In those type of cases i would say the one thats not a sick fuck (the mother) to do nothing about it is even worse than the one thats fucked up in the head (the father) who probably dont think hes doing nothing wrong
Thank you for saying this
yes
"People assume that when you have money, you have no problems" This.
One problem people who have money have is that most money is earned, not given away.
Mo money mo problems
MrJuvefrank that made no sense
im need to have them problems
Money can help you solve some problems. But it's not the end all of everything
i’m so sick of people judging them and blaming them for killing their parents despite knowing about the abuse they suffered from when all they ever wanted was freedom
People are just hypocrites
They weren't 8, 9 or 11 y.o when they commited those crimes, they were around 18 and 21. They weren't poor, they had all the opportunities in terms of getting psychological/psychiatric help, in terms of getting a good lawyer to go against their father, in terms of seeking for professional help unlike poor people who depend on the public system (that you know it has never been good). They had higher education, so they both had more tools to find a way to take revenge legally.
They decided to go the criminal way, they understood the criminality of their actions, they bought weapons two days prior to the killings, and during that time they didn't stop, but they continued pursuing their criminal act. Once they killed their parents they started to live a luxurious life, spending a lot of money in luxury items, showing no remorse at all... So, to me this goes beyond resentment, this was mostly criminal behavior and perhaps psychopath minds working together.
It's heartbreaking to see them try to talk about S.A, but those sad expressions should be taken with a grain of salt, not forgetting their situations and privileges prior to the killings they decided to commit... Anyways, people can easily fall for a pretty face and an athletic body in tears, and this seem to be one of those cases.
I think they both got what they deserved.
But that doesnt give us the right to pick up a gun abrutally slain our parents
Will you listen to yourself? A man sexually assaults his two kids and yet your saying this?
@@paultyson459 that’s where I disagree
they definitely didn’t do it for the money they were already rich
First Last if you are a kid and you’re parents are rich u are basically rich
First Last bur they’re living this rich lifestyle too??!
You fed your husband to tigers , that fucking bitch Carole baskin
Not true they wanted it all now!
Jackie Powell ok well they lived the luxurious life style. So in that case I highly disagree. It’s not right they killed their parents but still very sad and traumatic what there parents put them through at such young ages.
"Spoiled rich kids that wanted to inherit their parents money" no. They're literal VICTIMS.
tbh I only know this case from a UA-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
They try so hard to make them look bad when they are the victims
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@@julietmota9205 woman, I think you got it wrong. Their father is the one who has money and will kill them if they report to a police or what. They want the abuse to be exposed, what their parents did to them, they all want it to be exposed but his father who has the money will kill them
Yes exactly
It’s so annoying how these people have more sympathy for the evil parents than the abused kids
You can see the look on the brothers face when they said they touched each other. Those kids were molded into whatever they are now. I don't have a lot of knowledge on the case but I wonder what age this started. The father and the mother sealed their own fates with how they treated those kids.
The court heared the evidence and decided otherwise!!! Hmmmmm????????
They're all on in it...
tbh I only know this case from a UA-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@caroljones5334 because it doesn't matter, they still killed two people
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The way she mockingly said that… made my blood boil. Just the humanity in her. There were none. These prosecutors needs to put humanity over their careers. The jury chose to help the abusers rather than the victims.
She's a gated community puppet, listen to the way she talks too. She's getting paid handsomely to paint these boys as monsters, shes a pig
They weren't 8, 9 or 11 y.o when they commited those crimes, they were around 18 and 21. They weren't poor, they had all the opportunities in terms of getting psychological/psychiatric help, in terms of getting a good lawyer to go against their father, in terms of seeking for professional help unlike poor people who depend on the public system (that you know it has never been good). They had higher education, so they both had more tools to find a way to take revenge legally.
They decided to go the criminal way, they understood the criminality of their actions, they bought weapons two days prior to the killings, and during that time they didn't stop, but they continued pursuing their criminal act. Once they killed their parents they started to live a luxurious life, spending a lot of money in luxury items, showing no remorse at all... So, to me this goes beyond resentment, this was mostly criminal behavior and perhaps psychopath minds working together.
It's heartbreaking to see them try to talk about S.A, but those sad expressions should be taken with a grain of salt, not forgetting their situations and privileges prior to the killings they decided to commit... Anyways, people can easily fall for a pretty face and an athletic body in tears, and this seem to be one of those cases.
I think they both got what they deserved when it comes to the sentence.
They killed the person they blame for S.A. so that's another case, and the person they killed was not able to defend himself (you don't know if those S.A stories are real)... They called the cops in tears after watching a Batman movie... People judge the jury, but they know much better than you why they gave that sentence. You weren't there, you're just watching two pretty boys crying and that's the only thing you have to judge them. Ridiculous
@@plexoniolopez996 their parents deserved to get murdered 🤷♀️
I doubt they were sain enough to think about getting a lawyer
Why would they show remorse for their rapists? Any one would become a psychopath if those were their "parents"
So what if they had alot of money?no amount of money can justifie rape,they werent acting spoiled.
By your logic, its your fault if you get raped if you can defend yourselves.
@@plexoniolopez996 this makes me see the case much differently
everyone is talking about how attractive they are for some reason but can we talk about the trauma they went through? Like this is so sad
Ikr...I feel very bad for them
Literally like i started crying soo hard hearing how Erik was molested from the age of 6 to 18! like that is soo morbid
EXACTLY LIKE ITS DISGUSTING LIKE YES YOU FIND HIM ATTRACTIVE OK COOL BUT HES LITERALLY SUFFERING IN A JAIL CELL FOR SELF DEFENSE AND MENTALLY STRUGGLING WITH HIS TRAUMAS
They killed people so they die to
@@idontevenhaveapla7224 they aren’t a serial killer...
Ppl who kill their abuser SHOULD NOT be guilty. That’s just not right
1/18/21 Edit: For all the ppl that are saying "but that's not right", "that should not be a reason to kill sm1" etc. He would've got killed in prison anyways or if not killed, tortured. So it really wouldn't matter anyways if they have just gone to the police.
#freekai
No man in the sky intervened when junior was a boy to deliver him from Alexander Luthor sr fists and abominations
Personal Info i get it death is a whole other level pero sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do
Cassandra Rodríguez ehhhh maybe
Personal Info but not for life! The father abused them. Maybe they should’ve been in jail for 10-15 years but not life
I never believed they did it for money. I 100% believe they were abused.
Really....why kill mom then.....
@@jordanfan88 oh and would you let her get all inheritance instead of you after she did all that or to be more precise she didn't do.
@@InteN66 what?...if they were victims....why kill mom...she's didn't do anything to them. Only they and the dead parents know what really happend.
@@jordanfan88 Not saying any thing they say it's true but if it's true read again my first reply I explained it enough there.
They literally went on a spending spree give me a break
What was the mother doing? It really boils my blood when one parent hides another parent’s bad deed for selfish reasons.Such parents who abuse their children should be publicly humiliated
The mother was abusing her oldest son Lyle too
She abused Lyle. She raped him
How weird and cruel does a parent have to be to sexually assault their child
It happens more than you think.
I heard that the father was also sexually abused by his mom but nevertheless what the father did was unacceptable.
Moses Devadass literally the most emotional and disgusting thing ive heard when he started to confess the molestation
Moses Devadass a lot of parents do it it’s not a surprise
Moses Devadass she’s sick in the head too
Stop saying the mother is innocent she wasn’t
How do you know?
Shang Tsung lots of videos about it and proof
yes
Agreed
Ya she was they weren’t molested
i’m on the brothers side on this one . their dad was horrible and they didn’t want to live like that anymore.
Exactly I agree too
@@B888-h2o they were teens not adults unless you consider teens adults.
@@tinni.e_xx4399 dude it’s obvious
@@B888-h2o their dad still abused them when they were 18
@@tinni.e_xx4399 Stfu you sound like the type of person to question a sexual abuse victim. Everyone them accountable for what they did, you are no expert in psychology to identify a real and non real victim.
I have zero sympathy for pedophiles or rapist they all deserve the death penalty
They were sexually abused and seeing so many people sexualize them is so upsetting:(
THANK YOU!! EXACTLY ITS SO DISGUSTING
exactly:((
they are all “he can murder this 😽” like no.
@Yoshi IKR
@S J it has nothing to do with gender. People have always sexualised abuse victims.
This case needs to be reopened. The way that they even forced them to say everything when they clearly were uncomfortable about talking about the sexual abuse.
That lady was his own lawyer and was helping them
@@mel_icka but the way they we’re forcing Erik to answer the questions while crying was so rude she should’ve let him take his time. You can tell he seemed uncomfortable with talking about the abuse.
@@crxz___1938 I know, in other videos u can see she learns from that. I think if u watch the videos from the perspective of knowing she was his lawyer and was trying their best to help him. She had to get every detail clearly from them so the jury don’t say they’re being manipulative so she tended to ask quick questions so they don’t have time to lie or make up a memory but yeah that particular question I think she shouldve waited. But at learning they actually became close because she was really trying to help it made it less cringe for me
Did the brothers pass polygraph?
They had to.
Why havn't netflix made a series about this already?!
Because we already hv that in csi , law & order etc
Lifetime did
lifetime made it years ago. i meant to watch it but never did so idk how well it was interpreted.
other shows already did
Pozeidon YOU CANT MAKE A SERIES ABOUT *ONE* MURDER
all kids deserve parents, but not all parents deserve kids.
They were abused. Their mom knew about it and turned an eye to keep her lifestyle. They did what they thought was their only way to escape. Very sad story.
Linda B Proof?
@@adriaunaa5745 That's what I did, I ran away at 16 and told someone which got me a lot of help, I didn't have to kill anyone.
Adriauna DNM they deserved it
Adriauna DNM too late now 😂
Please, please, please link the proof of what your accusing. I've read comment after comment and the threads, yet not ONE person who alluded to any kind of proof that she had ANY knowledge or guilt whatsoever. In NO way am I trying to be rude or sarcastic. I am simply frustrated and stunned by so many eluding that their Mother was somehow at fault, like she deserved to be killed. IF there is links you could post backing up these claims then I will happily educate myself. However, without the evidence to back such HORRIFIC claims, are you truly okay with Victim Blaming? As I said before, I don't want to be rude, belittle, or become part of the problem of assuming....I simply am asking you to educate my obvious ignorance as to why these claims are acceptable.
"its not supposed to happen in beverly hills". give me a break.
What's so special about Beverly Hills lmao
Mozambitch Exactly! Beverly Hills is where everything bad happens. It’s the devil’s playground. Who would have guessed though. Anyway, you didn’t hear it from me. Jolly well! 🥂🍺 Cheers and beers mates!
Ikr 😂😂😂😂 not supposed to happen at all
It’s not suppose to happen anywhere tbh...
I know 😂
They don’t deserve their sentence but father deserved that early grave.
Their fucking parents should’ve rot in hell . These boys needs justice they shouldn’t be in jail they need justice this boils my blood and shattered my heart hearing everything 🥺
They do deserve their sentence. That doesn’t make murder okay it’s still wrong (:
@@ginapena2 they deserve a sentence, not necessarily the one they got.
@@ginapena2 Abuse = Character murder, Innocence murder, they are equal in my eyes. Legalism has made your views on this sort of things askew.
How do yall even know they actually got abusrd
I can't imagine how embarrassing and traumatic it probably was to describe how your father sexually assaulted you in front of courtroom. That's so heartbreaking. I hope they both heal.
What about the mother
@Katherine Rain How would she be just as guilty tho? Maybe morally since she should have stopped it but she didn't (to my knowledge) abuse or harm the boys right?
@Katherine Rain that is not what I meant. Under the law maybe what the father did could be used against to reopen the case but what about the mother? She didn't abuse their kids physically, regardless of innocence she didn't do what the father did. But obviously I agree with what you are saying, but it doesn't justify their actions under the law then.
@@ghog4792 the mother let it happen, that is just as bad as doing it
@@RoryMeldrum I understand that, morally we all agree, but under the law that doesn't justify their actions.
That lady judge was so rude. The guy could barely breath when he’s trying to answer , and she’s rushing him like wtf give him a second lady!
I think it's a technique. He will react differently depending if his acting or not.
Exactly what a son of a bitch!
Ya mistaken that was the prosecutor. The guy speakin was the judge
1-Last -Chance X how was she at the time on the spot to know if he was acting or not? That’s why she was rushing him
Because the judicial system is paid off by the elites . It's all an organization. They are demon filled .
i’m here from that one tiktok “but mama i’m in love with a criminal “
and i know it’s very wrong they shouldn’t be sexualized and it’s horrible i was just implying that i was here from a tiktok and i’m sorry if it came out the wrong way. they are traumatized human beings pls get help if u sexualized them.
THEY ARE VICTIMS AND SHOULDNT BE SEXUALIZED!!
they are murders i know but they are also victims
SAMELOL
me too...
same and I catched feelings
LMAO SAME
Me too and I got curious!
A movie executive being a sexual harasser.
How unheard of.
karrriney Right? It happens all the freaking time. I think its even more gross that it was a father touching his own sons. Molesting HIS own sons. Gay, incestual. Creepy.
Illuminati bro stay woke
@@demariowilliams8 you're not woke illuminati isn't a thing
@@MyPussyBleeding-rn1mw I hope you have no tampons
Exactly majority of them are pedophiles
This is one of the worst cases of sexual abuse by a biological parent
Some parents never deserve kids :(
It’s a lie, they thought they could get a slap on the wrist if they said they were abused sexually. Don’t believe everything you hear.
tbh I only know this case from a UA-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
@@hiim_chloee same!! i'm honestly so confused about this case. i watched stephanie's video and i kinda got the impression that it was basically just the brothers being spoiled kids, but now i keep hearing people talk about how they were abused and/or sexually abused (which is something stephanie mentioned, but said was just an allegation w/ no evidence). maybe I'm biased bc i watch a lot of her videos, but i'm leaning more towards what she said bc it just doesn't make sense to me why (if it was self-defense) they left to get more ammo and came back to shoot their parents more or why they would go on a shopping spree afterwards.
@@ghostly6007 Omg same!!! After I posted the comment I didn’t know if I was being insensitive or something but reading your comment made me feel better thx :)
@@CrZY_DnKS what other reason would there be though?
this case needs to re-opened
Agreed
I totally agree with you
Re opened? They were tried for murder. They were found guilty of the murder that they committed. How can it be re opened?
why, they killed and got time🤨
Agreed
I've noticed that abuse can make you do things that you'd never even think of and make you act like a totally different person
They are the real victims, that guy who was supposed to be a FATHER took everything from them.
I agree with you completely but they shouldn't have tried to hide it
GermanMartin MB I have no idea if it's true or not obviously I've done no research plus no one will really ever know the truth, but suppose it was real? You sound like you're actually the one whom is 10 just by telling someone to shut up about something they believe in, really immature kid.
That ridiculous, two wrongs done make a right. There are numerous options for victims of abuse to seek justice and freedom that doesnt involve murder.
A K most of the time justice isn’t served
A K it’s the 90s things were different back then
The lady said “not supposed to happen in beverly hills” oh wow... not supposed to happen anywhere crazy lady
I guess it means that they would expect something like that to come from the Midwest, but not Beverly Hills. Time has confirmed what we already knew. All those Hollywood sickos who live in Beverly Hills and morally grandstand over all of America are worst than the Midwest.
True words 🙌
Fr
Ikr 😂
I bet there are a lot of kids especially in hollywood who would consider these 2 guys courageous and heroes to them.
Ima just say one thing. Had this been two girls rather than two men, their trial would've gone a lot differently.
I dont know if you are right but they didn't deserve life In prison. They dont deserve prison time at all by my opinion.
This is facts. Also if their dad wasn’t a Hollywood director or whatever it would’ve been differently. U know hellywood is evil.
Lots of girls are in jail for killer there rapist
@@darabarrack4112 True
@@darabarrack4112 that is true That lady Cynthia forgot her last name
i’m so sorry for these boys. one of the closest people in my life at one point was sexually abused by their father and the anger i have will never dissipate. this is pure emotion from victims. this is not acting. i can feel the same trauma radiating off of them.
wow! Anger is the same spirit that they had - we have to forgive
Their father was a disgusting horrible person. This breaks my heart. I hope they get justice soon.
I hope they get justice too.
What justice are they going to get
I hope too
@@theamcdcshow4426 none they are lucky that they are still a live. It would be better if they get the same as their parents. They could tell someone but htey didn't they killed their parents
@@randonguy6914 finally someone understands u dint kill them for that u tell someone
This is disgusting they are VICTIMS ! SELF DEFENSERS ! Not criminals
Self defense isn’t premeditated
Its a murder. Planned all along
there is no real evidence of this ever happening. This is the same with the girl who killed her mom and was trending on tiktok because she was "pretty". Its the same exact story with no proof behind it. I'm not going to call an alleged victim a liar, but I won't point fingers on people either. At the end of the day, murder is never justified unless its self defense which in this case it wasn't. He just shot a bullet through the dad's head without any contact with him. In the case of the girl who was trending, she only killed the mom. So the dad has had experience with her giving more context to the story. In this case however, we never know whether its true because theres no actual context. I will say though, saying that you were raped and abused by someone is usually aimed to get a lesser sentence. So theres that.
In the defense of the storyline of being sexually abused, proving rape or any such thing is hard to prove at all. Especially when the person who was the alleged rapist is dead. So there's also that.
@@yasminnegash3968 yeah you pretty much said that perfectly
It wasn't self defence it was revenge for the abuse they suffered
This case NEEDS to be reopened. They were victims their parents are the definition of evil.Some parents dont deserve kids tbh
tbh I only know this case from a UA-camr who did a video about this and it’s amazing everyone should check it out it’s from the channel Stephanie Soo but at the end I’ve heard that once the parents died they faked the call and after that the started flexing with all the new money they got??.? I dont know if I got the information wrong or something because like I’ve heard that they were buying cars and trying to get girls?.??? Also can someone tell if they actually got abused or not but from what I’ve heard again I’m using that phrase lol they when the parents died they were on the couch doing something like maybe watching a movie so in the eyes of the court of law they currently weren’t harming them in self defense, if the parents were allegedly abusing he sons the exact time that they died I’m pretty sure it would considered as self defense but because the currently weren’t harming them it’s not consider self defense AND IM NOT SAYING THAT EVEN IF THE ALLEGED ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE ARE TRUE IM SAYING ITS OKAY I’m just saying the information I know thank you for reading this.
Ikr
Exactly
@@hiim_chloee i dont think that's true. they were victims of sexual assault and i am not saying its an excuse to kill anyone or whatever but I feel so bad for them. this case should be reopened and the boys should have been sent to a psychiatrist not jail.
I have been saying that for years. they would never get a life sentence these days
Although what the brothers did was extremely wrong, hearing them describing what their parents did in such detail makes my heart sink. No child deserves any of this 😢
Pouring you’re heart out about rape and abuse and just to get life sentence in the end is just heart breaking this case needs to be re-opened
How old would they be now tho lol
When they poured their hearts out and openes up it was a hung jury not a life setence. We don't have video of what happens in the second trial, was probably a diffrent defense. They said Lyle didn't even take the stand.
@@jhonthomas2899 yeah the judge completely changed the rulings and said they couldn’t talk about the abuse.
@@deshaechase6843 Erik is 50 and Lyle is like 53
They lied about it
the dad made them really think that abusing was a normal way of playing. that’s disgusting.
what the hell is wrong with you guys? First of all their is no real evidence that they were actually abused. Second of all even if they were they should not have killed their parents they could have called the police. These guys are cold blooded killers and it’s disgusting you guys will defend them
@@aced8121 listen Zack, I have done my research about this case! If you would’ve done some research, you would know that they were really scared of their father. They claim that their father has threatened to kill them if they’d try to run away from home again. Their mother knew about the abuse,she didn’t do anything about it! Even judges who were with them in court, said that there was no possible way they were acting like they were abused, they looked petrified and actually traumatized...so please do your research and don’t go and assume that they’re just psychos that killed their parents;))
@@aced8121 people like u gross me out
@@aced8121 if police actually helped, there wouldn’t be this many unheard sexual assault victims out there
@@aced8121 Well their cousin did say that when they were younger the brothers explained their experience and how it made them upset. So that’s evidence right there.
The parents deserved what they got BOTH idc .... DONT ABUSE YOUR CHILD PERIOD
@Ready To Die 1312 this world should be cleaned up. Yes exactly, you're absolutely right.
They didn’t deserve to die, no one does. I think the brothers also shouldn’t go to prison for life
Mariafernanda Munoz-Camarena lmao they killed their parents, it doesn’t matter
That's what he says. He's probably lying. Just like he lied on the 911 call.
@@jimjim3462 you're an idiot. keep going by the book without having common sense.
I don't understand this prosecutor. Did she not hear the way BOTH parents tortured them for years and years?
The prosecution is only wanting to bring the charges against the sons, regardless of her feelings. You surely have to be hard nosed to do this side of a job.
I don’t even feel bad for the parents. I feel bad for these two.
why would you ever feel bad for the parents after what they did? anyone who does anything like that to their children deserve anything that happens to them
@@seanhenderson593 yeah
Same
@@seanhenderson593 if my parents did the same to me i would do the same as the brothers if i had the chance
@ABHINAV JAIN watch their documentary
They shouldn’t be in prison they were just protecting themself from their dad
They could of left the cushy life provided by their parents.. Days planning and they then blew INSANE money right after they murdered them
@@brooklyn2812 I think that because the trauma they had w their parent they weren’t able to see another way to get out of there. If someone abused me I would also want to kill them, everyone had their own way of relief pain (I would kill myself maybe, but yea)
@@brooklyn2812 Think about this, yes killing their parents was not right, but you have no idea what their father could've held over them if they threatened to leave or tell someone, obviously their father had to keep them very close in case they did say something, obviously murder wasn't the right choice, but that was physical and mental torture. you cannot just leave and expect yourself to forget about it.
They did kill someone so o-O
ARE YOU KIDDING ME? SO IF YOU KILL SOMEONE BECAUSE THEY ABUSED YOU THEY JUST GET TO BE LET FREE
The fact the Erik struggled to tell the court that his father sexually assaulted him is so heart breaking.
it really breaks my heart. Erik admired him and looked up to him.
It broke me 🥺💔💔
It broke my heart when he started crying 😢
THEY ARE LYING YOU CLOWNS
@@ravenyouritielsens9744 do you have any proof of that or are you just speculating because you don’t believe male survivors or sexual assault? like they said at the start, if one kid kills their parents that’s a bad seed, if two kids kill their parents that’s a bad family. they’d been acting out for years which is incredibly common for survivors of abuse, there has to be a reason for it. i’m not justifying their actions, but i think it’s important to understand their thought process
I cry every single time i do a deep dive into their story
Me too 😢😢
Same😢
it was self defense. this case needs to be reopened
Exactly
By definition it wasn’t self defense. It should’ve been reported to the police. I know it’s terrible and horrendous what their parents did to them but gunning them down was not the answer and should not be treated as the correct course of action. They were 17 at the time, they could’ve went to the police but they chose to murder them instead
@@stormnegele463 no one is saying what they did was the correct course of action it’s just that the punishment may be excessive given the circumstances
exactly it was self defense what the parents did to them was evil
Exactly
“They killed there picture perfect family” why are they making them look like the bad guys when they aren’t 🤔 their parents weren’t innocent
Yes there parents weren’t innocent but they could have handled it another way, if it was self defense they would have harmed or injured them then maybe they would have let it slide but they don’t and the straight up killed them and if they handled it a different way their parents would have life sentence and would be charged and the boys could have had therapy or some kind of help but to me that was not the way to go
@@2poundsofcheesefriesofficial true
My only question is what did the mom do ?
@@xrtifi they were sexual assaulted by they parents
@@2poundsofcheesefriesofficial in a fit of rage or adrenaline rush they did more damage than intended to.
News : they ruined a picture perfect family
Kids : abused
Sexually abused too, disgusting.
Ikr
It’s disgusting fr
Picture perfect family means that they look perfect from the outside
It does not always mean that they are perfect behind closed doors
literally
When parents abuses their own kids, that scar is permanent... 😭😭😢
The abuse is not the issue - the response is - if anyone is angry, they have the same spirit of the abuser - we all become what we hate
as someone who has been molested, i can tell that they weren’t lying on the stand about anything they said. i could see all the same emotions i feel on their faces
Zeb B I’m sorry this happened to you. The world is a beautiful place with DISGUSTING human beings
I’m a mental health nurse and after readying their documentary and all of that, for me it was so obvious that they’re emotions were real and deep... I guarantee that they were saying the truth. The interviewer was so judgemental and fucked to be honest!! She should get fired :|
They’re lyinggg why not report their parents instead of killing them make a court case against them ffs them brothers are lying
Oh shut up lmfaoo
I'm sorry that you've gone through that. I'm hoping you can find love and peace while living in this messed up world. You don't deserve it.
Its disgusting that their father got away with that for so many years and nothing was done. They should be sent to a psych ward for therapy not jail. They were sexually abused and emotionally and physically broken. Just sad
First Last you could just say there in prison
@@jessekamau1118 period😏
The father can't defend himself now.
@@corinatamez-hibbard939 Of course he would have denied it. That's what abusers do.
We know the justice most of the time act in favor to the disgusting father. We can not believe how the justice act in favor to the abuser man. The justice in everywherere act like garbage. How the justice sent to the prision even they know how the children suffer from they were very little children. Many time the justice are just garbage.
Not trying to be weird but Erik is actually pretty fine..
K&O2 Cole how is that weird?
"Cause momma I'm in love with a criminal"
I know right
Hella fine
I was thinking this the whole time... I’m glad someone’s said it
They were too young to defend themselves from the abuse, from the unfair judgement. How can ones let this verdict happen, shameful!
When a mother doesn’t protect the children, the rage is mounting
Terri Holliday I absolutely agree! Nothing pisses me off more! How do you let anyone hurt your kids?!
Yeah I m not saying themurder right but I don’t blame the boys especially if they were abused
Christy McVey i still want to be revengeful towards my mom because of this
exactly! people beliving they killed mom for money is BS.
there are a lot of moms in this world who turn blind eyes when her husbands abuse her kids. tolerate his action just to keep him or his money
Terri Holliday i was the 1000th like on this comment EKSKETIT
They were definitely abused. I think their mom knew, that’s why she was so depressed. This isn’t acting, this shows immense pain.
She tried to trick them into believing it wasn't that bad; I think she was laughing all the way to the bank.
Agree
I can understand why they kept silent
You struggle with recognising bad acting and body language and lacking basic common sense
I hate the fact how they went to jail for years but rapists only get 7 months, NO ONE should have to go through that at all NO ONE. They didnt do anything wrong
I agree, but rapists get way more than 7 months
They take something precious in God eyes
It’s much worse in Portland. People don’t get prosecuted when they’re arrested for committing a crime.
Rapist DO get jail for more than 7 months, if you didn’t know. Also, ik they killed there parents because they were sexually assaulted, but they also committed murder. So if your mad that they when you jail for murder, then that’s pretty stupid lol
@@rapidfool8564 they get beat up
Really sad.Imagine the people who are supposed to protect their kids the most end up abusing them the most.
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what
Murder is a felony stupid
It didn’t come across how you thought it will be. 😂
She’s quoting Chicago
all i have to say about this comment it yes. just yes.
I feel bad for the Menendez brothers. Imagine living with trauma all your life. Being raped, sexual abused, and then they killed someone. It is something you couldn't forget easily.
And then be in jail like forever 😕 that is truly sad
@@krisrandomstuff3932 wait. For life??? Forever??? Whattt
For real, seeing their faces for years every single day and acting like a normal family. Like that's a long time, no wonder they killed them. I can't even stand looking at my sister's face after she physically assaulted me a few times.
@S J no mom was guilty. Watch another interview!
@S J she never ever stopped the dad- when erik threw up after his dad came in his mouth his mom never asked if he was okay. it was only when he threw up from being sick. that’s just one thing she did wrong- she left her sons to be sexually abused by her husband. it’s DISGUSTING. killing is also very sickening, but both parties were so wrong in this.
HIS DAD abuses THEM and used them for his “sexual part” that’s horrible and the mother is just as bad as the father because she DIDNT do anything about it or try to help COULD you imagine going through that as a child/teen BUT it’s your FATHER doing that to u?! (I’m not saying what they did isn’t wrong) because murder isn’t the right way but they just wanted it to stop and you never know what’s going through their head “how long was it going to go on for” you know u can see in their face when telling that it was real and is real I rest my case
They’re parents also said that they were gonna kill them to make sure the secret never got out.
Seriana Diarte that’s just horrible, how traumatizing. This whole case is so sad.
yes what happen to them was bad and no one should have to go through that, but don't stick up for them that much, because they did kill their parents, you would have been mentally ill or not right in the head to do that. they could have gone to the police. but I do see your point and I think that a part of what you said was right
Sienna Ayala the reason they were probably mentally ill was because on their house hold and what happened to them and that’s on period I ain’t picking up for them but if you went through that u feel like their is no other way for help and a way to get out!! You don’t know what they were feeling at the time
PERIODT I STAN YOUR COMMENT
Child molestation is so downplayed here. Let’s not forget the adult-the parent was abusing both of his kids. This is insane.
Don't forget the 15 shots to mom and the fact that they lied about it from the start. No matter what the reason, they were not living at home and shot their parents while they were watching tv and it was premedicated.
@@trebleclef3886 Gypsy-Rose Blanchard comes to mind and is walking the streets a free woman and “lying from the start” nor however many shots to-specifically for some reason- their mother’s head are luckily not how we gauge innocence in this country.
they’re so brave for reliving their horrific past in front of an entire courtroom. i have respect for them.
I know right, especially the fact that they went into detail; I could never
Respect??? Really??? That's a strange word to use for this situation, they murdered their parents. Why not just get the hell out, why wait all those years without saying anything? Oh right, they wouldn't have inherited all that money.
@@barbkearns3296 not that easy u idiot if you’re are young kid getting sexually abused,u don’t understand what that is at a young age so how are they supposed to just get out it’s not that easy
@@barbkearns3296 does it hurt being that dumb? you don't know anything about abuse. it's not easy to just "get out". also, the dad literally said he'd kill them if they told anyone. educate yourself
@@sicaqueen3884 they obviously lied about it to get sympathy from people
“They were brutally murdered” uh... they were shot. That’s it. People get shot every damn day. These guys were abused and used. You don’t understand the feeling of being stuck when in abusive situation. They are labeled these gruesome murderers, when they just wanted out.
They said There was brain all over the walls, that is pretty brutal
@@hezzi2945 yeah... that’s what happens when using a shot gun, one of the most accessible guns available. They went in and just shot, not looking. But because it’s a shot gun, it will wide spread damage. It happens all the time.
that’s what I’m saying! A shot to the head is an easy way to go...those parents deserved to be tortured and to experience a slow and painful death. Nothing quite brutal about a gunshot.
It was brutal
I know right! They deserved much slower and more painful, prolonged deaths. There was nothing brutal about it, the way the media portrays this is insane.
I was in high school when this trail was going on and I couldn’t help but believe them. Sometimes rich kids have disgusting parents too. Not just meth heads.
They were very good actors.
Pani Danuta are you dumb. Its not acting
Amen
Dash93 i- wtf no
Dash93 What does the second sentence even mean?
It’s crazy how much the oldest has changed prison really has taken a toll on him when it shouldn’t have no reason to even be in jail
dude. there’s no way they could’ve been lying. no ones acting is that good. it really broke my heart when they confessed about their abuse. there’s no way they were acting
BS, no one can act that well.
socks
I agree. 😞
law and order true crimes did a really good series on it
if they were girls everyone would have believed them
And why would two grown men lie about showering with their father and having oral sex with him? That’s just too embarrassing.
This is such an unfair case. They were the victims.
Fr
They are victims and killers
Victims that if they claim “self-defense” then they could’ve told the police that, not go on a damn shopping spree that made them look like they killed them for money
@@michaelbartlett2225 you don't understand how abuse works if you think they could have just gone and told the police.
@@abbysykes6673 I do, I know people who have been, there’s other ways to deal with it, things that help people escape, and it would’ve been different if it was when they were being abused they killed them, they they snuck up behind them with shotguns, that’s not self defense, self defense is when someone is trying to kill or severely injure you and you shoot and kill them, like a car jacking or home invasion, but it wasn’t they deliberately snuck up behind them, and like I said, they chose to be idiots and blow all that money they got, which is something that is VERY useful for prosecutors to use to convict, and it makes them think that was their motive, they could’ve done some things differently to avoid prison but they did what they did and have nobody to blame but themselves, and I hate how everyone says it was “self defense” and they were “victims” any other situation and it wouldn’t be said
They look like absolute badasses walking in slo-mo in those suits
YEASS was thinking the same
Yeah Devin cause momma I’m in love with a criminal
they are finee tbh
I was thinking same thing they look badass lol
Lmao
For that woman at the end to say "Every Mother's Day she thinks about Kitty and what the boys did to her was pure unadulterated evil" IS OUTRAGEOUS --- WHAT SHE DID TO HER SONS WAS PURE UNADULTERATED EVIL!!! NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND
Everyone who says it's deserved they got life in prison haven't experienced that kind of abuse
They killed there fcking parents and played with each other in the woods
@@stova9118 ware do you think it stated first? You think that it's okay for your father to abuse you and your mom not giving a DAMN the parents got off easy in my opinion.
Howard Alien it was deserved they took 2 lives but at the same time they are also victims. Sometimes justice isn’t fair.
@theotomeobsession yes, killing someone can never be justified, but, may i remind you theres something called suicide, and its something that happens after the abuse is too much, death can also be an escape from the living hell they go through... abuse leads to the said suicide, the last line that u said, death should never happen in the hands of someone else confused me, its like saying its ok to commit suicide after enduring the hell
@theotomeobsession The moment you create a child, you damn them to inevitable death. Why is that acceptable if this is not? I'll support the abused sons, not their disgusting, selfish parents.
It broke my heart seeing Erik's veins popping out when Lyle was apologizing to him. You can feel their shame.
YEP 👍🏼
@@redfirebonus9408 stfu stop commenting and mine your own fucking business.
@@Lotmbest why don't you do the same
@@redfirebonus9408 I would love to see your proof. Sincerely.
“probably practiced crying on command” lol okay
“What they did to their mother was evil” WTF?!? No! What is evil is allowing your husband to abuse your TWO CHILDREN. The fact she stayed silent makes her just as, if not more then guilty!! They where HER CHILDREN it was HER JOB to PROTECT them! Any rights as a mother was taken away the minute she stayed complicit.
This is what happene when someone marry a pychologically weak woman.
The female prosecutor interviewed this later admitted that she took a crime scene photo of the mother from evidence and keeps it as a memento! I don't think she's right in the head.
Nope Nope ughhhhhhhh don’t call people sweetie, you’re not sounding smarter than anyone by doing so
@Nope Nope It's not about fighting for parental rights, the OP just stated that in today's world, she would lose custody of her children for not protecting them.
A lot of child abusers set “tasks” before settling with another to see if that person will turn a blind eye to their desires for children.
If it were the Menendez sisters they wouldn't be in prison
They were already living in a prison. No justice for these young men. Free them.
And they in turn committed a very heinous crime themselves. Voluntary manslaughter should have been the verdict which would be 22 years.
@@kaylinwhite6584 lmao no you dont get it
@Kaylin White but at least this time they're free from their "parents"
@branded beast not a actual prison😐 they’re talking abt how evil their parents were
@branded beast it doesn’t seem like they would lie abt abuse you bitch
Where TF is Kim Kardashian man lmaoo she helping everybody else get outta prison
Ikr, she's got her heart in the right place. People can call them bimbos, but their dad was a very brilliant lawyer and he's obviously passed that on to the kids.
June because she’s a lawyer/ becoming one something like that
@Merch not my fault you haven't been keeping upto date with what's she has been doing to bring justice to people incarcerated without fair trial.
@Merch there's something called Google. Don't come to the comments section for everything.
@Merch www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/05/07/kim-kardashian-is-funding-legal-team-that-has-freed-inmates/ since you're just going to say some uninformed cocky comment. Here you go
they weren’t spoiled rich kids, they were victims.
Yes, but I think they could have handled it better than killing their parents
Ikr. I would rather be poor than to be in that horrible situation. It is so painful to kill your parents that way... but it was more painful to have them as parents.
@@tinamon136 true
@@2poundsofcheesefriesofficial how? I think no one would of believed them.
@@juburr9750 It’s a possibility, but he could have used self defense differently and could have injured them but they took it to far and now bc of that mistake they are now in prison
I remember seeing only a couple of times over the last 30+ years, in documentaries, that Jose got mad at the family dog, killed it, and put it's head in the refrigerator for all to see. That is demented. I wonder why it's been largely ignored.
sometimes we refuse to see how bad something is until it completely destroys us.
That rude lady, denouncing that they were not a normal kids, how a bout the parents were not normal and that they were Monsters☹️
Again 😂 there is no proof that the parents did that but there is proof of everything else the kids did to them
@@domzzcardzz7985 what kind of proof u are seeking here, videos or photos are u kidding me😅
@@domzzcardzz7985 u dumb asf. THERE IS LITERALLY LEETERS, PICTURES AND PEOPLE WHO KNEW ABOUT THE ABUSE
@@domzzcardzz7985 except there is tuguye
Stupid questions 🤔 broke ❤️for those kids
100% not their fault, sure they murdered their parents, but their parents made them into the persons they are. They should have gotten help instead of a prison sentence. The parents were the evil ones.
Preach! 💯💯💯
"He wanted to know if this happened to every kid"💔just a imagine a ten year old
my son is almost nine and his best friend 10 and they are so little. This is so tragic!! this needs to be over turned.
gosh that hurts my heart so bad
I don't believe him. There is evil in him, and I honestly think he is lying. I've seen alot of people cry and lie like that, including myself. And their actions after killing their parents is also what leads me to believe they're lying. They spent their parents money, and never really took it upon themselves to leave, and you can say that they're broken all u want, it's no excuse, most serial killers would look at these guys like a joke. But I guess you'd need to actually do bad things and learn to know what I'm talking about.
@@walkingcorpse1224 thank you ! Someone finally gets it !
@@walkingcorpse1224 First off they killed their parents, ok. Like what will be going through your mind if a GROWN man wanted you to do those things. (Run away or KILL) then to be 10!?!? On top of that find out your own brother did the SAME TO YOU?!?? Like your acting like this is normal and they don’t need to cry!?!
If the second trial allowed all the sexual abuse they would have been found innocent.
I'm literally sitting here crying because the fact that they had to kill their parents because they knew they could not just go against them and say this stuff is heartbreaking.
The system likes protecting rich pedos (I’m talking about the parents)
and more knowing there's people who blame them, how can they blame victims?? they lack of emphaty
@@cutenessoverload96432 They shouldn’t have killed their parents and the lied about to evade punishment. Their are consequences for the actions we choose to make. For the murder of their parents that punishment is jail. The parents can’t legally be culpable for their alleged crimes because they are dead.
@@kaylinwhite6584 The father literally had pictures of them naked. Like OP said, a few years perhaps, but the court system did not take into account the abuse and instead took in only the murder.
Was the Menendezs’ mother evil though? I only hear about the father, but not the mother
Their father did HORRIBLE things to them.
@R B stfu
@R B there’s literally proof are u dumb
I don't believe the kids
@@ulaiwangreen8611 wow ok after they got abused for years
@@sleepykid455 it simply does not matter as to what there parents did to them. They could have called the cops and got help or did anything else but kill them. That’s horrible and no way to save yourself.
“What they did to their mother was pure unadulterated evil” HAVE YOU NOT JUST HEARD WHAT THEY SAID? THEY ARE VICTIMS NOT KILLERS? FREE THEM THEY DESERVE JUSTICE!
No just no
@@wtwzo dumbass
They are both as they confessed to it.
YASSSSSSSSSSSS THEY HAVE BEEN IN JAIL FOR OVER 30 AND STILL THERE LIKE FREE THEM!!!!!
@@samuelhabakuk8265 did you not see the court videos because you should to understand more of this case
there’s no way they’re faking that, the pain in their eyes is real
Was the pain in the fake acting 911 call from Lyle also real?xxx
when you look into Erik and Lyle's eyes, you don't see evil, you don't see hatred, and you don't see people who would kill their parents for money. you see victim, trauma, and a child at heart. Erik has PTSD, anxiety, and many more. Lyle used to have multiple stuffed animals. IN his 10th grade, he took a stuffed animal, and when he raised his hand, he used the stuffed animals hand. They asked for forgiveness in prison seeing a priest. Erik burst into tears asking "does god forgive me? does god forgive me? do my parents forgive me?". Erik and Lyle love their parents, with all their hearts. They said their father was a very powerful man, and their mother was an elegant woman. the abuse and the trauma they went through is so messed up, my heart just aches for them. they need justice. and they need it now. us menendez guardians already made it to New York Times, Fox11 news, and so many more things. we have and will be heard.
Sexually abusing your own child is worse than murder.
@@ChildrensRightsFirst947 true
@@ChildrensRightsFirst947 agreed
@@ChildrensRightsFirst947 fax
@@ChildrensRightsFirst947 it is but… think of it like this, if they didnt stop the bs that their parents was putting them through then they would’ve probably killed one of them. The boys were young and scared. They were traumatized. They had it made and just bc u got hella money and ya people are wealthy that still doesn’t change the fact of how you will be mistreated in the household that never everyone seems to know about or believe. && I’m ready for the hate comments cus Ik ima get some😭 it’s just the truth.
The justice system in America is something else.
@Richard Okpala My face is God's blessing and grace.
@Richard Okpala Also the government is quite disgusting. You can keep making dumb comments but that will not change the fact that the government is trashy.
@Richard Okpala Many in America think your justice system is flawed and my look isn't for everyone. God bless you though.
@Brandon Calvilo Yes but the video in question is based on a case in America.
@Brandon Calvilo wait I am confused did she say the brothers didnt deserve to go to jail?
The purpose of keeping people in prison isn’t about “protecting society” anymore. It’s about protecting the pride of these old, cancerous people who can’t admit they were wrong about the case. These brothers aren’t a threat to society in any way
They still killed they’re parents... even if you make the argument that they deserved it, it’s still not right. What happened to those kids is unforgivable I’m not denying it, but there are a multitude of better ways to go about it. They weren’t trapped obviously if they could go and buy some guns. They could have gone to the police or done something else.
@@ignzore you have never been abused, or been in the same position as those guys and I’m happy for you. But you need to understand that its not easy for people to just “go to the police”. They had this trauma building up since they were little children. Their mind is not like a ‘normal’ person anymore. They can’t make rational decisions because of their mental state caused my the trauma their parents put them through. They made impulsive decisions which should be forgiven since all that anger and trauma wasn’t their fault.
@@ignzore the police probably wouldn't have done anything anyway. abuses are very, very oftentimes swept under the rug, or unable to see because the parents act perfect when authorities are present.
@@ignzore of course it's not right and they are paying their debt to society and they've already done more than enough time, they deserve a second chance. They're not bad people. they were pushed by their parents to commit this crime
you could not have said it any better!
I live only like 2 minutes away from where this happened. I once visited the house. Game me some chills knowing that the schools I went to all my life we're close to where this happened.
I don’t believe for a second that they’d did it for fun or for money like what
They seemed TRULY hurt
exactly why would the reason be money if they would end up in jail.
S maybe because it’s a lot of damn money they spent money like crazy
Incognito Black How they gonna spend money if they’re gonna be in jail? Think a bit
S had they not gotten caught they would’ve continue spending it
What’s crazy is there’s alot of sexual predators in the movie business
And they'll be protected no matter what. They can just give money and people will shut up
Like Dan Schneider.
In professional sports as well
Everywhere, they just get more media coverage, it’s all around us
So Sad SMH
Why did those brothers have to spend the rest of their life in prison for something their father did to them...They should have been put under protective custody and whisked away to somewhere they would be protected the rest of their life...NOT PUT IN PRISON..
It's very easy to accuse dead people. And even if they were really abused, it was a clear premeditaded murder, and the law is the law, life in prison or the death penalty for first degree murder. Also, it's a very strange thing for alleged abused victims to do, they could've gotten out of home or called the police, after all, they were legal adults, but no, they chose to blow their parents brains out and blame it on the mafia. Oh, maybe it's because their mother threatened to take them out of the will for being the pricks they were lol I'm glad these sociopathic liars are rotting in jail, the world is a better place because of it.
@@leoz2035 Its very easy to accuse people you don't know.
Thomas LM They could have gotten 40 years and maybe learned their lesson too, possibly. I think they were likely abused because they did not appear to be acting. The premeditation angle makes it hard to say they did not kill them for the money.
Thomas LM so Thomas, you clearly don’t understand psychology, or the nature vs nurture argument about why people kill etc. Please watch more videos on this. Thank you
Your a true idiot
The second trial was an absolute sham. These men have done their time and should be released.
The reporter who said "Your a normal kid who killed your parents!" is so annoying to me!
edit: found out her name is barbrah walters
Warrick Rhode same, like excuse you barbrah his parents weren’t normal parents
She was Hot at one point of her life #stillfukBarbaraWalters
PoPcOrn PoPs yeah let’s just kill everyone that upsets you, because that’s smart
How about we all meet up and put a biscuit on the ground ????
@@logantibbett2924 just upset? The parents abused the kids, not just upset em. Open your ears before you use your fingers.
Kids that kill in fear of being harmed again after enduring it for so long are not the monsters.
Why can't the court consider the case as self defense :(
@@persephone153 The law isn't necessarily a direct representation of morality. It is a projection of morality for the benefit of society, or you could say a system designed to ensure stability and coherence within a particular set of rules, the backbone of society.
They were not kids, they were 18 and 21... self defense was not their first motive they killed because of money and they planned the murder beforehand and after that they lied too much. They killed them years after the alleged abuse so why would that be considered self defense 🤔
Sary M. Age doesn’t mean the mental damage goes away. The trauma can be enough for something like this to happen. They did it to themselves, the bastards deserved it. I hold no remorse for their parents.
Sary M. They came from a rich family tho they did not need to argue not her to argue just saying
these are VICTIMS!!!!! if anything cases need reopen, trials need to be confirmed. their voices need heard. justice for the menendez brothers
They lied. Both of them thats why you saw them buying anything and everything after their parents deaths.
@@loicmburanumwe5879 maybe they went on a shopping spree as a way to deal with their trauma
Should we allow Arias to go free.
@@loicmburanumwe5879 couldn’t agree more. Who’s to say they didn’t make these stories about “trauma” up. They seemed dysfunctional from the beginning when they were robbing people
@@gabrieljunior2869 si if your parents died, you would go on a shopping spree with their money? It doesnt make any sense.
And here gypsy rose is living her best life