Wish I'd known before switching from Gas to Electric Heating
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Are you thinking about switching from gas to electric or completely electrifying your home? Do you wanna learn more about electric heating installation? This video is about what I wish I had known before getting an electric heating system for our home. I installed convection heaters (Stelpro Mirage) and smart thermostats (Ecobee) for energy savings and remote control. Join me as I am sharing our experience switching from gas to electric heating. Enjoy!
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If you can, choose geothermal. Geothermal saves the most money in the long run, is eco-friendly and absolutely quiet. Air-Source heat pumps are an alternative that is still much more efficient than electric heating at a significantly lower upfront cost than geothermal.
Smart thermostats can easily work on high-voltage using a transformer combined with a relay (Aube Technologies RC840T-240 On/Off Switching Electric Heating Relay with Built-in 24 V Transformer).
00:00 - Intro
00:19 - How to decide - Priorities, Financials
00:45 - Electric vs. Geothermal, Ground-Source, and Air-Source Heat Pumps
01:25 - Solar Panel System as part of Home Electrification
02:55 - Zoning
03:38 - Convection Heaters - As quiet as it can get
04:23 - Wood Furnace
04:50 - Smart Thermostats on high voltage - Ecobee with Aube Relay
06:14 - The Wiring - Circuits and Parallel Heaters
07:32 - Follow the Code - National Electrical Code
Financials of Heating and Cooling systems:
Geothermal - Are geothermal heat pumps worth it?: • Are Geothermal Heat Pu...
Geothermal - What you need to know before getting geothermal: • What You Need To Know ...
Geothermal - Why is geothermal not the standard system heating and cooling system?: • Why is Geothermal not ...
Air-source vs. Ground-Source Heat Pumps: • Air-Source vs Ground-S...
Air-Source Heat Pumps: • Do AIR SOURCE-HEAT PUM...
Complete Heating and Cooling Playlist:
• Heating and Cooling
Our Solar Panel System:
Is Solar Worth It: Grid-Tied Solar Power for Home: • Is solar worth it? Gri...
Sizing the Heater:
Calculating the right wattage for a room: www.stelpro.com/en/expert-adv...
Sizing the Wires on the Circuit:
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2:10 are you selling the excess to the utility? Is it connected to their grid? If not I don't see how they would have any say at all in what you do with your own generated electricity.
Hi undefinablereasoning, thanks for leaving a comment. 🙏 Net metering means getting credit for energy provided to the grid that you can use at any time typically within one year. Which contracts are available to you for grid-tied systems depends on the electric utilities that are available to you. In most areas in the US there is only one electric utility provider. Net metering is very common. And contracts of different providers look similar.
I live in a 2 story condo townhouse with all electric system. No gas at all. I actually prefer it over gas. Utilities are very affordable.
Thanks for sharing
Thank you. Much appreciated. Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. 😀
what is good heat pump to heat down to 5 deg outside with out heat strips /mitsubishi hyper heat good
Ground-source heating. If not, SANCO2 Heat pump water heater, ideally with a Harvest Thermal system if available in your area. I‘d like to revisit the subject.
Have you looked into infrared heating panels? I’m thinking they might be an affordable option.
Hi, Thank you for your suggestion. Do you have a link or other research recommendation on this? Thank you! Katha
If you already had a forced air natural gas furnace, why not use an electric forced air furnace? I'm planning on replacing our Fuel Oil forced air furnace to an electric one.
Hi Kilnor, in retrospect I should have installed an air-to-water heat pump. The reason I didn't was that at the time I wanted to do it myself, and this was within a timeframe that I could afford and I thought in combination with solar power and storage it should be environmentally friendly. However, it's less efficient. Hope this helps. Thank you for sharing your thoughts! Katha
Hi! If you live in an area with somewhat frequent winter blackouts (1-3 days per year) is electric heat still an option?
Hi! The short answer is yes.
In an outage you are not better off with gas or oil compared to electric heating or a heat pump system. For the vast majority of homeowners, who use a furnace with fossil fuel for heat, an electrical outage means the furnace won't work. Although the furnace is fuelled by gas (or oil), there are some components to it that require electricity to operate. The furnace's safety system will not allow it to turn on during an electrical outage. It is not safe to try to rig the furnace for heating, as this can compromise health and safety (carbon monoxide poisoning can be life-threatening and you don't smell it).
You can improve the insulation of your building envenlope. Typically, starting with the attic and closing draft leaks including the duct work is financially most attractive. This would create recurring savings. It takes days for a passive house to cool down even on the coldest winder days. To completely avoid power outages as a homeowner, you can install a battery and/or completely take your home off grid. Videos about insulation and grid independence are on my video idea list. Feel free to subscribe. :-) Thanks!
@@NetZeroTech Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought a gas furnace could run using less power from a generator; 120 volts, 15 amps vs 220-240 volts, 30 amps.
@@Chris2745100 Gas furnaces require electricity to run, correct. This is why they don't work during a power outage (unless connected to a generator as you suggest). However, they use natural gas as the fuel to actually heat the building.
@@NetZeroTech I have a Gas Fire in my living room which is controlled with AA batteries and that is a real boon in current circumstances. In the UK we have pitiful national gas storage capacity but they are unlikely to cut off domestic gas. I would think the pipelines would need to be flushed in case any air bled back in to the supply pipes. This whole Eco push seems to come over as spend the pounds if you have them and then only talk about the pennies saved. It is difficult to imagine many people have the resources to buy electric cars or install heat pumps etc.. Gas prices are coming off so things look a bit better for the winter. People are also using wood burners but they cause major pollution unless the right wood is used. In the UK wood stoves produce three times more unhealthy particles than road traffic yet would probably be considered an Eco solution as was Diesel with CO2 being the only factor ever considered.
Hi @@michaeld5888 , Thank you for sharing. Agreed to some of your points. There should be financing solutions to those who can't afford investments. Often times there are though and people don't look for them. Wood should be net zero if it has been planted to be harvested. Thanks again. Have a great weekend. Katha
thanks! what is the brand of the woodstove? I like the design.
Hi! Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. The brand of the wood stove is Contura. www.contura.eu/en-gb. It is an import from Sweden via container ship.
@@NetZeroTech Thank you!
@@shahadataziz624 Of course! You are welcome.
Please go and watch videos on reverse cycle air conditioning cut your energy bills to about 25% over panel heaters. The reverse cycle air conditioning hot relatively cheap but they are air to air. I prefer to put small reverse cycle air-conditioners in every room. The small ones can be five times cheaper to run than a bar heater. If anybody suggest central heating hang onto your wallet and run. You are talking about 2000 W heaters if you have a 2000 W reverse cycle air-conditioner the input power is approximately 400 watts that means you could put in 5 small reverse cycle air-conditioner through your house it cost you the same as running a 2000 W bar heater Also the reverse cycle air-conditioners thermostatically controlled I need for the extra paraphernalia Do you own research and look at the specifications of the reverse cycle air-conditioners so you’ll see the wattage out in the wattage in reverse cycle Air-conditioners if you’re tempted to put in eight or 10 kW large ones for the lounge room they are about 1 kW in and 3 1/2 kW of heating out that’s why I stick with the smaller ones. The power consumption is so low that people living in motorhomes are putting in reverse cycle air conditioning running them of their lithium batteries
Hi David, Thanks for leaving a comment. Sounds good. Have you seen the video on air-to-water heat pumps? ua-cam.com/video/WjhHx_DFL-4/v-deo.html
Thank you, Katha
My house uses radiators, with heated water inside. Is there an electric system that is compatible with that?
Hey! Thank you for reaching out. 🙏 Yes, generally you can use a geothermal, ground-source, or air-source heat pump system with existing radiators. The flow temperature is lower, which is why it might be more efficient to increase the area of the radiators. I'd recommend getting a good installer, who has retrofitted heat pump systems before or is very keen and smart about getting into it. The installer will then make suggestions for your particular use case. Those can include insulation and other upgrades, which pay off within a few years. In most cases, you create significant savings in the long-run by investing in a heat pump system today. It might be a bit of work looking into it, but in almost all cases people feel very good about it, once they got over the hump and have a sustainable, efficient system installed that creates regular savings for a long time to come. I hope that helps. 👋
@@NetZeroTech Thank you. I am in a bind right now. My oil tank has to be replaced and I figure I will get away from oil heating. Is there a way for a solar system, with electric burner, to store in a battery enough power for an entire winter? If not, then the cost of electricity to power the furnace will be high. So, can solar store enough energy for a 6 month winter, or is this totally unrealistic. New to all this. Dealing with a leaky tank all of a sudden.
Hi @@jazzsnare . Sure, I'd recommend looking into geothermal, ground-source, or air-source heat pump system instead of an electric burner. In most cases this saves the most money long-term, especially as it would cost you money to replace the oil tank. With heat pumps you transfer existing heat from one place to another rather than creating heat from another energy source, which is why you can get ~300 - ~500% efficiencies from heat pumps rather than ~99 % efficiencies from electric heating. Thus, using heat pumps with reduce your electricity use 3-5X. The remaining third or fifth of electricity can be covered much easier with a battery pack storing solar energy. Battery packs are for intermittencies of up to several days and typically not for seasonal intermittencies. I recommend working with a residential energy efficiency expert. They pay off within a few months. I hope that helps.
nice video, so gas to electric. looks like convert the furnace and or add electric wall heaters. Mmm. thanks.
Hi, Thank you for commenting and sharing your thoughts. 🙏 Properly installed heat pumps with good insulation are the most sustainable and almost always long-term also the most economically viable solution in most places. We decided to go with electric heaters, because solar energy works extremely well for us in Colorado. Thank you! Have a great weekend. 😀
@@NetZeroTech thank you.
Dandelion prices went up a lot within the last year.
Hi, Thank you for leaving a comment. That's interesting. Do you have an idea why Dandelion prices went up? Thanks, Katha
@@NetZeroTech they told me "everything went up. Labor, parts, and materials"
@@itsbiju Interesting. Thank you.
you show me how electric bus charge the bus .... for diesel generation????
Hi @gorgor8819, Thanks for watching and commenting. Do you mean the maximum electric charge when all heaters are fully turned on? That’s 2000 W x 4 (two in studio, two in living room)+ 1500 W (one in bedroom). Cheers, Katha
Wood burning is a great alternative for heat, and you can compost the ashes to make a rich soil for growing your own vegetables!
Hi, Agreed. Good point on the ashes. Thanks for sharing. 😊
Wood burners going to be banned in the Uk and gas boilers
@@onlyme972 that sucks so bad. Something not right about what's going on with our governments
Wait until your first electric bill in New England
There is a video about insulation that might help.
No thanks with electric heat in New England the electric bill is at least 700 a month with new windows and insulation. And with rates up 60% especially Connecticut with the 3rd highest rates in the country , no thanks . Everyone with electric heat is converting to gas or air to air heat pumps .
@@NetZeroTech with electric rates third highest in the country the bill even with new windows and insulation the bill is over 700 a month . Everyone in ct with electric heat switched to gas or air to air heat pumps
@@robertthvacadventure8774 Thanks for sharing. Are you aware of any statistics about this. Thanks!
@@NetZeroTech I am actually planning a re-fit of my small House in the U.K. planning to get rid of gas heating and replace with electric, but first, insulate, change windows, ventilate with heat recovery. Small spaces, not too high ceilings. Lots of people advise against electric, but to me if you insulate and ventilate properly, then it may not be that bad.
Feel sorry for your neighbours, wood burning put out 2x the smoke of coal, a real asthma killer. You should use a smokeless fuel like coke. Fans heaters break quickly, oil filled are best. I would rather have an individual thermostat on the heater and just keep everything at 16c and tell people to wear jumpers and slippers. Electric heaters consume a lot of watts, so insulation should be top propriety to stop heat escaping.
Good points.
magnese oxide plates are a very good insulator and also you can use them as very good passive radiant heaters
Edit : what I envisioned when I stumbled upon magnese oxide plate is somewhat different from the actual thing implemented
@@vinu6484 Interesting. Thank you for sharing!
They may consume more watts over a time period when compared to gas but modern smart heathers will generally only be on for 15 minutes for 1 hours heat so they are much efficient than gas and have less waste.
I'm in Alberta Canada and I've been watching the cost of gas vs electricity for the past 3 years. Everyone is trying so hard to push electric everything on us but when it comes to our utility bills it would be crazy for me to switch. The cost of gas has gone through the roof in the past 3 years but so has electricity. Actually our electric cost is 3-4 times higher all year round. It would financially bankrupt me if I had an electric furnace in the winters in Alberta. Just watching our power grid almost collaps with the utility company telling people to unplug electric cars shows it's also a big problem. I can not even tell you how
Hi Lydia, Thank you so much for sharing. Sorry to hear about your challenges. Have you looked into insulation? I hope you stay warm, Katha
Electric doesn't mean zero emissions. Trust me, I work at a power plant.
Hi Rob, Thank you for watching and leaving a comment. I agree, grid-tied electricity use is typically not zero emissions, except for rare cases, e.g. hydropower supply or renewables with sufficient storage.
Depends where you live and your energy supplier. The Scottish government has set a target for 50% renewables by 2030. It’s already about a quarter of production and huge new offshore wind farms will come online soon.
@@CastleKnight7 Agreed, it depends on the energy supplier if you are not off the grid. Thank you for sharing the information about your regulatory situation in Scotland. Offshore wind farms sound exciting. Thank you, Katha
Zoning with central heating is so easy, just switch out the valves.
Even my grandmother understands it.
This is... really scattered. It's really just heat pumps vs resistive. Heat pumps pretty much don't care where they pull the heat from, so it's not necessarily just geo or just air source. Why take solar energy, drop 80% of that on the ground right from the solar panel losses themselves (in the form of heat), then drop another 15% off that (in the form of heat) in inverters and other electronics just for the end result of producing heat in the first place? Heat should go to producing heat, then that goes into the heat pump.
Hi, Thank you for leaving a candid comment. Much appreciated. Geothermal or air-to-water was not available and I wanted a system I could quickly install myself. I'd like to install an air-to-water heat pump. Once I get to it, I'll put it up here. It is a good reference. It could be a chance to get into the state of the art of cold-climate heat pumps as well, as they have advanced over the past decade. Often times I encounter outdated opinions on them. I hope this helps. Katharina
lot of chit chat.. uhen uill you get to some facts? some adds and 3 mins in?
Hi, Thank you for the feedback. I’ll try to make my point more concisely. 🙏