You have been doing this wrong 3M spray can glue adhesive
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Hello! This Closed Captioned video is about What is the right glue to use, contact adhesive glue to use for upholstery and which glue not to use (3M) Adhesive spray can glue. For RV's Boats, cars, trucks, furniture, and seats. Also, I'M NOT WEARING ANY PANTS!
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I haven't been able to find the day brand anywhere, and I'm in Southern California!!
@@b.powell3480 Have you tried Amazon? Thanks for watching!
Thanks, I'll check Amazon out, however, I don't use a lot, only small to medium sized projects
I've also been doing upholstery for over 40 years, we found out a LONG time ago not to use spray can adhesive for headliners. Weldwood is good stuff, there used to be a green colored contact cement that was even better but they changed the formulation and it was no good, don't think that company is around anymore. And I have also used cheap quart spray guns, and you never really have to clean them out UNLESS you leave the glue in and the weather is hot and it dries out inside the gun.
Hello Mttmg, I remember the green glue! Yep, good 'Ol Harbor Freight spray guns. Thanks for watching!
Also, i gotta say, its awesome that you read AND give feedback on everyone’s comments. Even after being busy all day. Honored to be let into your shop, via video. Thanks for taking the time, for real.
Hello JB, I am so glad that you noticed! I have another video with well over 2000 comments, and I answered every one of them. You are right about me being a very busy person! Thanks for watching!
Yep, OSAU is a solid dude.
These 5 minutes were more instructive and useful than hours and hours of the hey-look-at-me bois. Thanks!
Hello Max, Thank you so much for saying so! I really appreciate it! Please keep watching!
Excellent tutorial. To the point, brief and concise, on target. He presents the stuff clearly, in order and addresses normal unavoidable questions that will come up to any normal person trying to use the product. Great instructor, definitely thumbs up and subscribe.
Kind of funny as he said scrim I thought what's that then he said If you don't know...
Hello Kevin, Yep, good 'Ol scrim as it is known in the business. Please keep watching!
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Most people don't know about these old school ways because in a throw away society it's all about move the new version of product in the most wasteful way so more can be sold.
I've known that there were better adhesives for some time but didn't know where to get them or what they were, so thank you for the information.
Hello M, You are so welcome! You are so right! Experience is learned over time. Fourty years ago, if there were four different products on a shelf for something, now there are 25. Thanks for watching!
Thank you Rudolph. I was wondering about the spray gun clean up. Now I know.
Hello SteveO, You are so welcome! I am so glad you have a better understanding about this. Please keep watching!
Thanks for the suggestion! I've been using the stuff in the spray can, but I only use it for hobby level projects. Thankfully I've never had a problem with it failing. But it's expensive in spray cans, and I'm happy to learn that its cheaper and just as easy to use from bulk containers. I'll dedicate an old spray gun and give it a try!
Hello Ted, you are so welcome! Yes, I think you have the right idea! Please keep watching!
This is One of the times i am sooo glad i procrastinated putting my new headliner in the truck!! I already have the 3m 77 and was going to use it, but really felt it wasn't going to hold for years to come. Woodweld looks like the best product to use.....thank you!!
Hello Lynch, Oh, I love hearing good news like this! I'm glad you saw this video. Did you dee this headliner video? ua-cam.com/video/dXpF0Op_xRU/v-deo.html Please keep liking and watching!
Bless you brother, please keep the content coming !
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So practical, sharing openly.Thanks!
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That answers the questions I have had for a long time! Thanks!
Hello Tom, I am glad to hear I may have helped you understand. You are so welcome! Please keep watching!
Thank you so much I'll use it this week end for my headliner!
Hello Jay, if your just doing a repair, use a brush as air pressure will pull the rest of your headliner down. By all means, use the spray gun if your replacing all the material on your headliner. Thanks for watching!
You are absolutely correct, good video 👍👍
Hello Ripstitch, Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate it!
Super good information, I haven't been impressed with super 77 but I use contact adhesive in leatherworking all the time and I feel very confident in it
Hello Unistar, Thank you so much! I love contact adhesive! Keep my customers happy! Please keep watching!
Thanks!
Hello LeAnn, I really appreciate the support! Thank you so much! Please keep watching!
Im glad you made this video. after watching your seat repair video i was trying to think what it was you had in the gun. i kinda thought contact adheasive, but i was also thinking it would clog up like crazy. but thanks for showing me the way.
Hello, I Repair, I am so happy to hear the good news that now you have a better understanding! Yes, this is all true, (About the glue) Thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for sharing your vast years of experience and know how with us. I'm taking you advice way over some wannabe with 2 months experience! LOL!
Hello 7044, You are so welcome! I know huh? In the age of UA-cam, everyone is an expert, just repeating what they heard in another video. Thank you so much! Please keep watching!
Thank you so much for your lesson(s) and thorough explanations! Great job - very informative and helpful.
Hello Lamblion, You are so welcome! I really appreciate all the kind words! Please keep watching!
I just recently put a headliner in a removeable hard top and experienced exactly what you talking about. Used contact cement to fix up edges that were not holding with the spray can glue. I know I'll be redoing the top in the near future. This video answered all my questions after watching your many applications. Thank you so much.
Hello Dick, I am so sorry to hear that the spray can glue didn't work out for you. For many this is the case. I really appreciate you watching!
First ride in the car and the head liner was falling down. All good now with the contact cement.
@@dickham Hello Dick, I love hearing good news! Thanks, pal! Please keep liking and watching!
You got it. The 3m spray works if you can keep things cool. Heat makes it wimp out, like the heat found in cars. I use to use it when I recovered my pool tables, and it would stay hard and strong over years and then have to rip the old felt off the slate. In a vehicle it was crap and with heat it would turn loose. Barge is another excellent contact adhesive, and I used it to glue new rubber pool bumpers to the wood that mounted the bumpers to the sides of the table after reclothing them as well.
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Awesome video, great info.
I had my car vandalized with spray paint and paint from a can. I used mineral spirits and removed 99% of it. I was shocked at how good it worked with ZERO damage to my car. Even the rubber trim that was sun beaten and faded…took nearly all of that off. That was the only place with a hint of the vandals work. I imagine the vandals were shocked because by the time the sun came up, my car was sparkly clean. Not only did i remove all the vandal’s work, but I cleaned and washed/waxed the vehicle right after. Mineral Spirits are no joke, saved me for sure.
Hello Todd, Thank you so much! Wow! That is good news! I am so glad you had the wonderful experience of how well mineral spirits works! Please keep watching!
Thank you for sharing this. As an automotive hobbyist,finding a decent adhesive hasn’t been easy and I’ve never like any of the ones I’ve used. Trying to get free information from local upholstery shops has gone nowhere. So again, thank you.
Ps-great sense of humor no pants 😆
Hello Orange, You are so welcome! I really appreciate ya! Thanks for watching!
I used the the spray can from 3M for my convertible top and it held pretty good. It was recommended to me by a professional installer who was nice enough to give me a few tips and encouraged me to do the job myself which I did.This was before You Tube
Hello Alonzo, It sounds like you recommend the spray can adhesive? I can see that you like it. Please keep watching!
I agree. i learned the hard way. I used 3M adhesive on a headliner once and it failed. Thanks for posting!
Hello G, You are so welcome! Yep, that's what happenes... Please keep watching!
I started with the 3 and it just makes a gum-pucky mess of everything! I have however been affraid of spray guns getting clogged etc. I feel much better now about giving it a go, I am doing a 56 Chev Bel Air seat in Suede right now and I knew 3 would be a failure but wasnt sure which direction to go, thank you for sharing your years of experience :D I appreciate you for doing this video!
Hello Lori, Go boldly now with confidence! Cool '56 Chevy! Please keep watching!
Thank you
Hello Michael, You are so welcome! Please keep liking and watching!
I do agree with you as I have had problems with the spray can adhesive. You mentioned that it does not hold good. That is a fact even the hot sun will loosen it.. I,m not a trimmer but I enjoy your videos
Hello Neil, I totally agree with you, Hot sun in the summertime just kills the spray can glue. Thank you so much for watching!
Good information!
Hello Tim, Thank you so much! Please keep watching!
I started doing vinyl tops in the mid eighties and used the same thing!!!
Hello Glassman, The 70's and 80's were the golden age of vinyl tops! French tuck rear windows, 1/4 top, 1/2 top, French seams, 40" deck double seam or single seam tops right? Thanks for watching!
Awesome!!
Great tips!!
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Excellent....thank you!
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Thank you Mr Old School, just what I was looking for. Please keep making your very helpful videos.
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Well you answered what I had been wondering which is do you have to clean your gun after every use or every day. That weld wood contact adhesive aint no joke. I think thats what they put the space shuttle together with! Good video as always, keep them coming please.
Hello Michael, I really like hearing about good news like that. I am glad you have a better understanding. Thank you so much and please keep watching!
Rudolph, very interesting and informative, I'm not in the business nor need to fix a seat, but I thought the subject matter seemed very interesting, and it was. Thanks for taking the time to put this video together. It I need any ideas I now know where to go! I did watch your video on Glue and I also found that informative as well, thanks again.
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35 years as a qualified motor trimmer in Australia and you are 💯 correct..
Hello Australia Jason, I totally agree with you! Please keep watching!
What would you recommend for a DIY adhesive for roof lining available in Australia? Thanks.
Yep! I did auto upholstery installs only(no sewing, someone else made the seat cover kits)for about 4-5 years for a company that replaced the cheap interiors in mini trucks like Datsun, Dodge d50's and some Toyota's back in the late '70's. Never used a rattle can of adhesive, and the back area of a Datsun King Cab had to be carpeted up to the door panel line that was to be glued in, oh yeah the door panels. I think they hired me because all I did was vinyl tops back then. A place in Portland OR called Perfect-Fit McDonald Co. sold 5 gallons of glue for about 45 bucks. Different brands came and went, I recall green and even a red color glue but mostly a beige color glue. I used a Graco 2.5 gallon pressure pot and never cleaned anything but the Binks gun nozzle. Later when I opened a auto body and paint shop I had a headliner in a '82 Zed 28 Camaro to replace and used a 3M rattle can but it all came loose and I had to buy a cheap gun and a qt can of general purpose contact cement to fix the headliner.
Hello Cliff, it sounds like you lived my life back in the 70's and 80's! I had many of the same experiences! Thanks for watching!
Great Video and thanks for the information!
Hello John, Thank you so much! Please keep watching!
Awesome video Great work!
Hello William, Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! Please keep watching!
I appreciate the info. I have to do my Mustang door this weekend. I almost bought the 3M. Glad I watched this video first.
Hello Warbak, I am so happy that you got to see this video. I think you will do just fine with your Mustang door. Just be sure to clean the old adhesive off as much as you can with mineral spirits before you use the new contact adhesive. Please keep liking and watching!
Thank you I learned something.
Hello Luke, You are so welcome! I hope you can take this with you always! Please keep watching!
Thank you very good advice.
Hello Gene, Thank you so much for saying so. Please keep watching!
Perfect for welding plastic bags or tarps or dropsheets or foam sheets to lasting results.
3M is the savage beast!
Hello True, I am glad to hear that your experiences are positive. Not my experience. Super 77 melts Styrofoam sheets. Please keep liking and watching!
If it's not broken don't fix it!! That is all I ever used when I had my upholstery shop for 18 years. From the smallest to the biggest jobs. I agree with you 100%.
Hello Jack, Yep, we learn from our mistakes. We use what works. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the info you are the king
Hello Fastback, You are so welcome! Thank you so much! Please keep watching!
Great info. Thank you.
Hello Just, Thank you so much! You are so welcome. Please keep watching!
Great info!! 👏👏👏👏
Hello Delta, I am so glad that you liked it! Please keep watching!
Its good to see you sticking with the same product so long😎.
Hello Mart, For me, it was just replacing with what I was using all these years. If it works, don't fix it right? Thanks for watching!
I see what you did there
@@marychabot9732 Hello Mary, I'm innocent, I swear! Thanks for watching!
Landou top glue! Awsome stuff
Hello Alfonso, I totally agree! I love the Landau top glue! Thanks for watching!
Save me trouble, thank you!
Hello Dave, Glad to help! Please keep watching!
Excellent!
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The opening humor had me literally laughing out loud!
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Thank you for the insight and recommendation, Rudolfo! BTW - looking sharp in that shirt!
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Will do! Take care
Agree 100% !!!
Hello Martin, Yep, yep! Thanks for watching!
@@oldschoolautoupholstery Thank you for the honest and informative videos!
I made a console for my 64 Galaxie and used the 3 men spray and the vinyl fell off in about 3 months. I own Crystal Bear Leather works and use wood weld on leather its always done a great job for me
Hello Mike, Sometimes we learn the hard way right? If you work with leather, you will know what's right. Please keep watching!
Again a great video. My son found out.(what's daddy know) Well he'll do it right the next time.
Hello Anthony, Yep, a learning experience! Please keep watching!
Wow, those 5 gallon cans are expensive. But, I can see that it is much cheaper than buying it by the gallon.
And it is better to use the best product the first time.
I have never done upholstery work, but it sure is enjoyable watching you make everything look like new again.
Thanks !
Hello Ron, You are right about the high cost. I remember many years ago paying $40 now it's $120. Thank you so much for your kind words! Please keep watching!
@@mangajack Hello Australia Tony, Things just get more expensive, I agree. Please keep watching!
Thanks so much for giving away your pro advice brotha👊! Keep up the Kick@ss videos!
Hello Brotha JB, You are so welcome! Thank you so much! Please keep watching!
My wood shop teacher told me 20+ years ago that 3 man stuff in the can is junk. The good old landau top blue label is the best we used that in school. Also thats all the othet local upholstery guy in my area has ever used. I have had good luck with marine goop, shoe goop adhesive, one called Tear Mender, and black 3M weather strip and gasket adhesive. If I need to spray that blue label adhesive I use a little siphon feed touch up gun. Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge here with others.
Hello Ssw, I know right? It's the young guys that we need to convince. They see 3 men spray can glue on UA-cam and think it is the way. We'll show them. Please keep liking and watching!
@@oldschoolautoupholstery Agreed. I can remember years ago when there were just a handful of different adhesives to choose from and they were only available from industrial suppliers or possibly a hobby shop. Nowadays there are just so many it is confusing navigating all the stuff available these days.
@@sswcustomsewing4276 Hello Ssw, I can only imagine the confusion as I never shop or compare adhesives. In 44 years, I have stuck with the tried and true contact adhesive for everything. It has never failed me. This is so important if you are doing work for customers. Please keep liking and watching!
OSAUT, I think you'll agree, there is no universal adhesive, the application determines what adhesive to use, some adhesives may have several applications. There is ALWAYS a cost to convenience.
Hello John, That may be the case for some people. I however, only use contact adhesive for my upholstery. I never have any "Come Backs" Thanks for watching!
Another observation about 3 emm.. Recently they reduced the size of the can from 16 ounces to 13.6 (maybe .7) oz and increased the price at the same time.
I use it for making stencils.. and true, it eventually peels.
Hello Jeff, So true, So true... Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the vid. I always wondered if you had to clean out the gun every time or not.
Hello Sugar K, You are so welcome! I am so glad you have a new understanding about contact adhesive. Please keep watching!
My brother and I used to work at a T-shirt printer, we used three men as temporary adhesive all the shirts on the printing wheels
Hi Only, I can see how it would work on that. Please keep watching!
lok weld works great too at 12.57 qt.
Hello RV10, Thanks for the contribution! Please keep watching!
Yes I use the 3 men 90, and it works okay but as you said it is not reliable and can fail in the hot humid weather.
Hello Dew, Yep, you are right, So many have had that same experience! Thanks for watching!
Ty I'll try Weldwood. I used the 77 things do come apart.
Hello Nec, That is how we learn not to do it again. We have to make the mistakes first or just to take the advise of unexperienced experts! Please keep liking and watching!
Thanks. Until now 3-M brand adhesive spray has the best comparison tests. I have a headliner that is beginning to detach at the windshield. Weldwood Landou may be more reliable but I don’t need a 5gl drum of solvent nor do I have a spray gun😅. I do see that Amazon carries a 14oz spray can of the stuff so I will be giving this a try after all. Thanks for posting the video. 👍
Hello Patt, I have seen quart cans of contact adhesive and paint brushes at the big box stores... Just sayin'. Hehe Please keep liking and watching!
Your not pissing me off I've had a headliner fail with 77 not again
Hello Sartorst, What pisses me off is young "Experts" giving bad information. recommending this stuff. Thanks for watching!
Does the adhesive set up in the jar of the gun? If so, how quickly?
Hello Max, If it is a hot summer, it might last a month. If the cup is almost empty, a week. Thanks for watching!
@@oldschoolautoupholstery Thank you for taking the time to reply.
@@jaegeen Sure, no problem, you are welcome! Please keep watching!
Awesome video Sir, heck I might even try that stuff on a sock monkey LOL. Thanks for sharing
Hello Paul, Thank you so much! It does work on sock monkeys too! Please keep watching!
Its simple. Its what goes in the can for preasure and to atomize content thin. Chemical make up / reactions. Where in the sprayer its done by ventury. But its understanding. Prep. Usage. Per an application (what your doing it for. Both)
Hello Frank, More importantly, I think it is the glue being applied. Gooey sticky stuff that never cures or contact adhesive. Not rocket science. Please keep liking and watching!
Just some FYI reference the "spray-gun" shown in this video, i.e., a Chinesium: low grade, cheap spray gun. Is a nock-off of the Bink's model "7," syphon spray gun. Another spray-gun used in the Autobody trade was a "DeVilbiss" spray-gun. Who's design was used for any year's in the Autobody world for many year's before the Japanese spray guns (Sharpe's) started to enter the market approx. early 1980's, if I'm not mistaken. If I'm wrong, oh well I might be a little off on the date. As a old and retired Autobody guy, that's all I ever seen in upholstery shop's, were spray gun setup's. Some of the shops used two quarts spray-pot's or even three gallon spray-pot's. (you get to where your putting on two or three vinyl tops a week, this is what your gonna need.) But never as we called them "Spray-Bomb's," i.e., spray-cans from some bull-shite company that sounds like 3-men. As someone who has personally removed a lot of automotive vinyl tops, to save some money so the upholstery shop didn't have to, the one thing I always notice about factory vinyl tops, was the uniform coverage, and appearance of the glue, i.e. it was always sprayed on via a spray-gun.
Hello Stanwood, You are 100% correct in your recollections! I used them all through the years. Glue pots, then DeVelbiss, then Sharpes. Then I discovered the Harbor Freight. Now I buy a $27 HF spray gun every two or so years. Hard to argue that one.... I have done hundreds of vinyl tops, mostly in the 70's, 80's and 90's. Thanks for bringing back some memories! Please keep watching!
I like that glue. I use it on everything. Foam, vinyl, leather, fabric, sandwiches i make for the inlaws....
Hello Dusty, TMI... Hehe Please keep liking and watching!
I used contact cement or adhesive to glue on under hood foam pads. Nothing else worked. But make sure you pre fit and mark out things because once it contacts both surfaces, it sticks permanently. I use the 3m stuff for minor stuff that I may want or need to move a bit. But nothing that will be in the realm of harsh environments.
Hello George, You described it perfectly! Please keep watching!
I have been disappointed nearly anytime I use 77 unless it is a room temperature application.
It is touted to work with trim pieces and that is where I find it to be very worthless and they always start peeling no matter the prep!
I've used contact-adhesive out of the can and it is terrific in most all applications...
Thanks for pointing this out to new-players!
Hello Spinstar, Thank you for sharing your experience! We need to educate the newbie experts! Thanks for watching!
Good job brother. 👍✌️💙🏇🏇🏇
Hello brother Javier, Thank you so much! I really appreciate it! Please keep watching!
@@oldschoolautoupholstery can I used that and spray the ceiling in the inside of my van? It's beginning to sag. ✌️💙🏇🏇🏇
@@javiermagdaleno8345 Hello Javier, The reason your headliner is failing is because of the foam that separates from the fabric. Any air pressure from a glue gun will blow apart whats left of your headliner. I think it is just time for a new headliner. At least that is what I would do. Thanks for watching!
Thank you great video is there a hobby or a craft level of this product
Hello Craig, You are so welcome! This contact adhesive I believe is meant more for commercial use. Please keep watching!
Yeahhh this is the video
Hello Cole, Thanks a bunch! Please keep watching!
3 Men makes a high temp that is a 'little' better than the 77 counter part, but yes, the weldwood is the stuff to use.
Hello Greg's, Thanks for letting us know about your experience! Please keep watching!
I think you're all using the wrong spray adhesive. There are two different 3m spray adhesives that work extremely well. The strongest of the two is the Headliner Adhesive. It is very strong, and has an odor similar to the weldwood. The other is the General Trim Adhesive. It works well on just about anything. It is good for gluing foam to foam, material to foam, and material to just about anything else. I have used it for over 30 years with excellent results. I recently had the chance to check out a headliner that I installed in a C-10 truck in 2007, and it is holding up just great, with no loose edges, and no drooping anywhere. It was put together with the General Purpose Adhesive with no problems at all. The 77 adhesive is designed as a hobby adhesive, and sprays out like a can of paint, whereas the Headliner Adhesive and General Purpose Adhesive sprays out in a lace, or spiderweb style spray, with an adjustable spray nozzle. You should really give these products a try before you write off all spray adhesives, you may find something you like.
Hello Schlock, I never experienced what you have. Then Again I have lived in very hot climates. (Scottsdale Arizona). I am happy to hear that you didn't have any problems. Please keep watching!
@@oldschoolautoupholstery : Trust me, it gets plenty hot here on the Mississippi Gulf Coast also. I have not experienced any failures with the General Purpose Adhesive I referenced. Spray both surfaces, allow some dry time, and place the two together. I think you will find that the bond will be instantaneous and extremely strong. You should try a sample and see for yourself. I have found the lowest price for the adhesive is at Walmart as opposed to autoparts stores.
@@schlockrod Hello Schlockrod, Thank you for the tip! But I can't take any chances with my customers or my reputation. I'll stick with what I know. Why fix it if it's not broken right? Thanks for watching!
The M company make a lot of great products and 77 has its place but you are 100% correct. This aint one of them.
Hello Mr Dan, I agree with you totally! Please keep watching!
I agree with you, the 3men fails. The Weldwood is the right stuff. My only problem , can’t find it at the big box store anymore, they only carry the “green no odor “ and it is useless.
Hello Dixler, Maybe try Amazon? Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your knowledgable input. I've always trusted the contact adhesive too but was afraid to spray it. After watching this video I think I'll give spraying a try. What size tip do you recommend ? Do you use an HVLP style or Old School gun? What pressure do you recommend at the gun? Thx in advance, KW.
Hello Gonk, You are so welcome! I just use a standard Harbor Freight $27 spray gun. Usually sprays anywhere from 25-75 psi. Please keep liking and watching!
The ONLY reason why the 'children' recommend the 3M Super 77 is because it's as close to instant gratification as they can get. Doing it right the first time is not the point. Doing it as fast and easy as possible is all that matters to 'them'.
The real purpose of the 3M Super 77 is as you mentioned, NOT EVER DRYING or really being permanent. It's great for the vapour barrier film one attaches to the door metal between the door and the door card to keep the water coming down from the window off the door card.
Hello First, I agree with you totally! Thank you for watching!
Sprayed a glove with 3m to help my hand from slipping off a tight oil filter.
Hello Jon, Now that's a novel idea! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the information, you have been a big help! Just curious what size tip you use in your gun? Thanks again.
Hello W Rum, I dunno... I just bought the cheap Harbor Freight gun and use it. Thank you so much! Please keep watching!
I'm 100% in agreement! I've tried many different brands of can spray adhesive and they all eventually fail. My last and final project I tried with 3M spray was on speaker cabinets veneered with Mahogany. within a day the veneer started lifting, it was a total disaster, and I wasted expensive veneer. Weldwood contact is the best, period. Once bonded, it strays stuck forever.
Hello John, Sometimes we need to learn the hard way, I know I did. By the way, I totally agree with you! Please keep watching!
Great video, I'm changing a 2011 Ford police interceptor headliner , and just some of the edges are coming out from the new one. I don't have spraygun. Can this be applied with a brush. Thanks
Hello Mr, Thank you so much for saying so! Yes, the contact adhesive can be spread by a brush. Please keep liking and watching!
Years ago my daughter and her girlfriend were driving around in this VW bug with the headliner on their heads!! So I pulled one side open to get my arm in there, sprayed it with some spray contact cement wasn’t three m. Worked still to this day three years!! Maybe a fluk ?
Hello Gill, You are a magician? Thanks for watching!
Does the weld wood go bad ? I have some but it’s out of date.
Hello Donald, Just check the consistency. should run like syrup. It could get too thick if in extreme temperatures or very old. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your time. What are your thoughts on the gravity feed sprayers that have the canister on the top vis the paint sprayer with cup on bottom? Do you use a sanding disk on foam much? I have two vehicles to try to reupholster…
Hello Kevin, Gravity feed is too top heavy for me and you can't set them on a table. Syphon cup is easier on my wrist and I can set it down when and where I want. I never use sanding discs. I think you will do just fine with your upholstery projects. Please keep liking and watching!
This is your craft and your results are tried and true so if that’s you’re recommendation it’s gospel to me. The fact you only need to clean the tip and not have to clean the entire gun is so time saving.
You deliver your point of view very well as it’s not being pushed on the viewer and if they disagree it’s not on you. I’ve used weld wood contact cement for other tasks and it is a nice product just have good ventilation and an explosion proof commercial fan.
Hello Clint, I really do appreciate all of your kind words. It means a lot to me. Please keep watching!
I'm learning from my mistakes and used spray glue once at my c10 pickup headliner I put vinyl fabric and after three months started peeling I was very frustrated because I worked all day to do that and re do it again but I used contact glue this time and very different.
Spray glue sucks 😆😆
Hello Pedro, I always say that learning is doing! I am so happy to hear about your success. Please keep liking and watching!
I tried this on a GM headliner years ago. HUGE FAIL !!!!!!. I thought it was just me not knowing what i was doing. Had a headache the first few weeks after riding in that car. Glad years later to see it was the product.
Hello Volkswagon, It was not you, it was the huge corporation that sounds like "3Men". Warn everyone you know to stay away from the spray glues! Thanks for watching!
@@oldschoolautoupholstery thank you for the great content. I've learned a lot from your videos
@@Volkswagenplanet Hello Volkswagon, You are so welcome! Thank you for hanging in there with me! Please keep watching!
I've been doing some research to replace my headliner and I can remember this being used in my dad's shop back in the day restoring cars. I'm sure it hasn't changed much because it still looks pretty toxic. Is there a product that will work for daily driver that is fairly safe that you know of? Even if it only lasts 5 years I don't care, have to compromise. I am out in Colorado and Utah so it gets scorching hot. I'm also going to put some Kilmat on the roof to keep the heat and noise out while I'm replacing the headliner.
Hello Detroit, I have to say that I can ONLY recommend contact adhesive by spray gun or even by brush. But I think by brush will be more difficult. Please keep liking and watching!
Thank You for your advice. I plan on using the contact cement to adhere foam to the felt underlay. I hope it works for that application. Another question. How long will the product last when in the sprayer without hardening?
Hello Jon, You are welcome! Contact adhesive will work. The glue getting hard depends on the temperature. It will last longer in the cup if it is cooler outside, maybe a month. With very hot temps, maybe a week. Please keep liking and watching!
Yes and no.
Weld wood is great for professionals, and very serious hobbyists.
That said, many DIY people searching on YT for advice lack a compressor, they don’t have in-line air filtration, regulators, hoses, and spray guns. So?
For those folks, there IS one 3M spray product that WILL work for attaching a NEW headliner to a CLEAN headboard card!
Yes, it will last, even in hot humid Florida… I know, because I have done it, and my 2006 Porsche Alcantara headliner is holding firm at 4+ years so far. No issues.
Caveat: You must choose the CORRECT type of 3M product. Only use 3M SKU# 38808, labeled as 3M Headliner Adhesive.
While there are several types of 3M spray adhesives sold, THE ONLY 3M aerosol to use for automobile headliners is the 3M product which is labeled as “3M #38808 Headliner Adhesive”.
Never use Type 77. Ever.
The Type 77 product is not intended for automobiles. It will fail. Stop. Put it down.
One more time, NEVER, EVER use 3M “Super 77 Multipurpose Adhesive”.
Only use 38808. The 3M #38808 Headliner Adhesive is intended specifically for automobile headliners, and is NOT the same chemistry as Type 77.
Notice that our professional video host here is showing “3M Type 77” as an example of what won’t work for headliners, and in that respect he is speaking fact. But I found this video somewhat misleading, because I myself have used 3M #38808 from an aerosol can successfully in harsh, hot, humid conditions and with great success.
The benefit of using (the correct type of) aerosol spray, is convenience obviously, and the lack of any investment in spray equipment. If you don’t own a 9.5+CFM compressor and the required AIR/OIL filtration, air hose set-up and suitable spray gun, and you don’t plan on repairing more than one headliner, you absolutely can still do an excellent headliner repair using two or three cans ($20 each) of the 3M #38808 Headliner Adhesive spray.
On the other hand, IF you already own a 9.5+ CFM compressor, and a good spray set-up, It IS more cost-effective to just buy a quart of the Weldwood Landau glue product and go that route… and no, I do not work for 3M. 👍🏼
Hello Uncle, Thank you for your contribution. I just have to say something about you saying I am misleading people. I was basically talking about the most common "77" spray products. The quality is no secret. For 43 years as an upholstery shop, I have only used what I know. Contact adhesive by spray gun or if by brush if need be. I have never had to use 38808, so I have no experience with it. That's why I'm Old School. I only use what I can guarantee myself, happy customers. Like I always say, there is always more than one way of getting things done. Love you brother. Please keep liking and watching!
@@oldschoolautoupholstery hello!
I didn’t mean to discredit you!
What I meant was, that new DIY people might think that there is no way they can do this without a compressed air set-up and the DAP product. We all know that biggest issue is to prepare both of the surfaces correctly!👍🏼
@@UncleDuncan5092 Hello Uncle, Right On! Right on. Please keep liking and watching!
Weld wood also sells it in a spray can is this the same stuff as in the 5gallon pail?
Hello Russ, I have never seen a spray can version so I would not know. I only use the spray gun. Thanks for watching!
Hi great channel!!!, i was wondering why you use and old syphon spray gun? do the work best than gravity? and didnt say the tip size
Hello Wilson, A syphon spray gun is what's worked for me for 43 years. Easy to set on top of a table while working and not top heavy like a gravity fed gun. Easier on the wrist. I never worried about tip size. Remember it's not rocket science. Please keep liking and watching!
Thanks for the video! Weldwood has a spray aerosol can as well, have you tried this? Might be the answer for people who have small projects. Another question, when using mineral spirits to remove old adhesive, will remaining mineral spirits film cause adhesian issues? What can be used to remove any remaining film? Also, this stuff has a VERY STRONG ODOR, use in a very well ventilated area. I bought a very small can at home big box store. I found that it's pretty potent and will destroy cheap (practice) vinyl. Thanks again for the video!
HELLO 134ziNG4, You are so welcome! I didn't know about the aerosol can. After the mineral spirits have dried, I never think about any film. You can apply it over dried mineral spirits, but I would not re-apply it over wet mineral spirits. I have never had any problem doing it this way. Thanks for the awesome comment! Please keep watching!