Some of the adhesives in this video didn’t perform very well. I was a little surprised. I am curious to know your thoughts about the tests and the adhesives. Tell me in the comments below.⤵️
This was a very objective test. 3M runs circles over any competitor in most general applications, and is cheaper than many "cheap" products because it produces a fine mist that is high in solids at low cost in mass/area while still performing very well. The only problem is that it becomes dry too fast for many consumer applications and some professional applications. You have to be decisive and accurate with it. If you are assembling something for selling, it may require some paperwork. Most adhesives on the market only exist because some people try them and they do a so and so job, but they keep buying them because they never compare to a good product. These are products that "work" in a world where labels and recommendations mean nothing, many products and materials are incompatible, and the internet contains so much misinformation on the subject. They are brand-based products, pushed in retail over far superior products. There is no real engineering behind them. They are cheap generic formulas. Some adhesives could be classified in the scam category due to cost of coverage. They are money makers for the stores when cheap materials are sold, and sometimes installers get a huge cut on the material cost for recommending them. These are common in the building, but especially in the DIY markets and the ultimate snake oil market, sound-proofing. Strength is not always something we want. Sometimes we want to change carpets. In this case, technical performance is not important and is actually counterproductive. 3M77 is strong and designed for permanent application. As an example, it is not appropriate for many scenic design uses, because redressing and reuse of materials is common and application is usually temporary. Professional sometimes use incompatible adhesives for such uses. In any case, congratulations on the test. It represents very heavy usage with unprotected edges, something uncommon in professional application, but very revealing.
Really you are one or maybe the best in UA-cam making this comparison on products!, your testing method make me save money!, thanks for making this videos, I give you a like on all your videos and I subscribe to your channel too…👍🏻👍🏻
A fish scale between your hand and the clamping device as you pull would make for a great Testament to how much force it truly takes to get it to release. Thanks for the video. I'd also like to add that I'm a painter and use the super 77 as our go-to for spray adhesive. There is a huge difference in application technique and results. If you lightly spray one of the two surfaces and immediately clamp them together it will release much easier later without any damage to either side usually. It's because it wasn't allowed time to cure before it was clamped together. We do it this way when we want to apply some masking that will not come off, say in the sun for example, but can be removed later in the day without damage to the substrate. For the type of bond you're looking for. It's best to spray both sides lightly and allow to tack up before sticking together. This is the more traditional technique when using it like contact cement and want it to be permanent. Once again thank you for the video. First person testing is always the best
Excellent video. I am a retired polymer chemist and I wanted to do a comparison myself, but I no longer have access to a peel tester to put a number on the adhesion. I wanted to replace carpeting inside my glider trailer. The old carpet was 20 years old and disintegrating. I used 3M Super 77 I had on hand,🙂 and it worked great. Turpentine was recommended to clean the nozzle and it also was helpful in removing the old adhesive.
Nicely done video and a good comparison although I wouldn't put the DAP Carpet Adhesive in with the rest unless it's only a 'control' which the others would be compared to. That's because the DAP is specifically for adhering to carpet. I think that's its one and only job. And given that, I was surprised you were able to get it off. Overall job well done here. Thank you.
I'll be honest -- I got here by way of searching 'spray adhesive project farm' and to my surprise, Todd has not tested spray adhesives. This is a good comparison video and got me the answer I was looking for. Keep it up and you'll be on your way to joining PF in the YT Hall of Fame! Thanks for taking the time! 3M it is!
Nice video. Thanx for doing it. I see many people use the 3M to attach outdoor type carpet & rubber flooring on wood floors & ramps of enclosed trailers they use for carrying motorcycles, bicycles,...
Same question, only for fiberglass boat. The hydro turf I bought does not have adhesive on the back saving me 35$ a roll. Probably worth spending 35$ extra now that I’m thinking about it but… if anyone knows best adhesive for fiberglass to foam - much appreciated
Video Request: I suspect that your spray can shaker is doing little, if anything. You should test it with some type of clear capped tube or jar, add equal parts of clear and dark color paint that has been thinned slightly thicker than water but, no thicker than milk. Put a marble in, then add the color paint first, then very gently add the the clear on top, not disturbing the color paint. Put one in the paint shaker and do the other one by hand for the same amount of time, shaking it up and down.
I have a metal building and thinking of putting R13 or R19 insulation on the walls. Spray foam insulation is just to expensive. I live in So. TX and it's normally in the 90's and somtimes 100's during the summer. Can you recommend a spray adhesive to be able to stick the insulation onto the metal?
Thanks for watching the video! 3M makes a high temp adhesive but I’ve never used it. I’d like to give it a try and see what it can do some day. Here is a link to 3M’s description ▶️www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b40069424/?gclid=CjwKCAjw1MajBhAcEiwAagW9MSij1_JEhPazP_scGXXys0r1yoCfzq149D-whTxCB0FVUw_8pktndBoCqfEQAvD_BwE
Great review my man. Used that 3m 77 for reupholestering the door cards of the car but i fear that not hold the temperatures that reach the interiors on summer. In my location we reach 43ºc on exterior. What do you think?
Lots of folks have commented about heat with this product. Here in Las Vegas a car!s interior can get up to 60°c. Yesterday it was 43°c outside! So far the glue is holding up fine on my carpet. Thanks for commenting!
Funny how this video shows up in my feed, a day after using the 3M 77 adhesive on a project involving lining a road case (birch plywood) with an automotive style (thin pile) carpet. I was very surprised by the bond - and impressed. But even while working outdoors, I did manage a partial aerosol glue high. Wear a mask, folks.
I think all of those adhesives have their purpose. Sometimes you have to remove the item to replace it with a new one so you don’t want to glue to be too strong. I’m here because I’m gluing down my camper indoor outdoor carpet to my cement patio. There are some fierce winds here. 😅
I am still trying to separate an mdf panel from an aluminum panel glued with super 77 3M. Anyone here can help me if there are a way or a product to separate both panels? Please
Thanks for this video! Been debating what to use to adhere felt backed woven vinyl flooring to wood subfloor in my van, was already thinking 3M spray over the DAP and this only confirmed my choice! ease of install and tight hold is what I was looking for!!
I may be here for the wrong reason, but i was trying to find a strong glue for art and craft project with my granddaughter. To glue gems, cloth flowers, hats etc. on rubber duckies. I thought spray glue would do a cleaner job, also most glues do not hold. I think ill try it.
I have found few Gorilla brand adhesives or glues that work well. I hate when I need something fast and come to Gorilla products because I know I will not be happy
What do you recommend for high heat Temps, I'm looking for something for the ceiling in my motorhome . Have a piece lose and have no idea what to use . Any info would be greatly appreciated.
@@MrFredsDIY What is the residual fumes from the 77 and 90 after complete curing? I want to use it to add additional insulation to my motorhome but afraid of smell... TIA
Thanks for pointing out the broken link! Here is a playlist of the eight videos I have made with this boat. ua-cam.com/play/PLN1CtBYDO93TdBpueaLMBsNeiZxaWRKER.html&si=0JTKPyfvXtcQEnOg
Anything 3M makes is top shelf. Was really surprised to see the Super77 be the cheapest. I've used the 77 & 90 contact adhesive before & they cannot be beat. Kinda like 5200, yea you can "remove" it but you'll pull apart whatever it's hooked to. Gorilla has only impressed me with their duct tape, glues not so much. Looks like loctite needs to stick to loctite thread locker.
Any carpet hit at the edges will do that, no glue will stop it happening, it’s all about the backing and the overall carpet quality, plus the edges will be at the skirting so it’s not going to happen, nevertheless a good video with plenty of info.
3M has been in the game for a long time. It’s the choice for professional architects. ….well it was when drawing was done by hand! Those days are long gone….Tom
@@davenstorm7271 3M 77 holds to 100 F degrees while 3M 90 holds to 160 F degrees. In official 3M data sheets, 3M 77 fails at 205 degrees F while 90 fails at 250 degrees F. Cars, especially roofs, get very hot so people have bad success with 3M 77. Of the 3M products, you are going to want 3M 90 or 3M 38808 Headliner and Fabric Adhesive. But there are also many non-3M products - many swear by Weldwood brush on. And when picking something, you need to evaluate what you are gluing - fabric to foam, foam to metal roof, etc.
Some of the adhesives in this video didn’t perform very well. I was a little surprised. I am curious to know your thoughts about the tests and the adhesives. Tell me in the comments below.⤵️
This was a very objective test. 3M runs circles over any competitor in most general applications, and is cheaper than many "cheap" products because it produces a fine mist that is high in solids at low cost in mass/area while still performing very well. The only problem is that it becomes dry too fast for many consumer applications and some professional applications. You have to be decisive and accurate with it. If you are assembling something for selling, it may require some paperwork.
Most adhesives on the market only exist because some people try them and they do a so and so job, but they keep buying them because they never compare to a good product. These are products that "work" in a world where labels and recommendations mean nothing, many products and materials are incompatible, and the internet contains so much misinformation on the subject. They are brand-based products, pushed in retail over far superior products. There is no real engineering behind them. They are cheap generic formulas.
Some adhesives could be classified in the scam category due to cost of coverage. They are money makers for the stores when cheap materials are sold, and sometimes installers get a huge cut on the material cost for recommending them. These are common in the building, but especially in the DIY markets and the ultimate snake oil market, sound-proofing.
Strength is not always something we want. Sometimes we want to change carpets. In this case, technical performance is not important and is actually counterproductive. 3M77 is strong and designed for permanent application. As an example, it is not appropriate for many scenic design uses, because redressing and reuse of materials is common and application is usually temporary. Professional sometimes use incompatible adhesives for such uses.
In any case, congratulations on the test. It represents very heavy usage with unprotected edges, something uncommon in professional application, but very revealing.
Any chance you could test the Super 77 on some 3D printed PLA? (PLA to PLA, and fabric/felt to PLA). Thanks.
@@MrFredsDIY I plan to use it on my cars Headliner
Some folks have suggested using the 3M super 90 in the green, can where he might be an issue.
3M super 77 for the most affordable and strongest bond, nice job. 👍
Thank you for this test. This information is just what I needed!
Really you are one or maybe the best in UA-cam making this comparison on products!, your testing method make me save money!, thanks for making this videos, I give you a like on all your videos and I subscribe to your channel too…👍🏻👍🏻
A fish scale between your hand and the clamping device as you pull would make for a great Testament to how much force it truly takes to get it to release. Thanks for the video.
I'd also like to add that I'm a painter and use the super 77 as our go-to for spray adhesive. There is a huge difference in application technique and results. If you lightly spray one of the two surfaces and immediately clamp them together it will release much easier later without any damage to either side usually. It's because it wasn't allowed time to cure before it was clamped together. We do it this way when we want to apply some masking that will not come off, say in the sun for example, but can be removed later in the day without damage to the substrate. For the type of bond you're looking for. It's best to spray both sides lightly and allow to tack up before sticking together. This is the more traditional technique when using it like contact cement and want it to be permanent.
Once again thank you for the video. First person testing is always the best
Great test!! There are so many brands to choose from ,but your test helped me choose the best one !! Thanks!
So many brands and each one claiming to be the best! Thanks for commenting!
Simple & straightforward approach. Well done 👍
Excellent video. I am a retired polymer chemist and I wanted to do a comparison myself, but I no longer have access to a peel tester to put a number on the adhesion. I wanted to replace carpeting inside my glider trailer. The old carpet was 20 years old and disintegrating. I used 3M Super 77 I had on hand,🙂 and it worked great. Turpentine was recommended to clean the nozzle and it also was helpful in removing the old adhesive.
Thanks for watching the video and kind words. Great tip with the turpentine!
Nicely done video and a good comparison although I wouldn't put the DAP Carpet Adhesive in with the rest unless it's only a 'control' which the others would be compared to. That's because the DAP is specifically for adhering to carpet. I think that's its one and only job. And given that, I was surprised you were able to get it off. Overall job well done here. Thank you.
Hey, this really helped me. Great job, thanks a million!!
I appreciate you taking the time to comment!
Great content first time watching your videos I just subscribed today
Thanks brother, that really does answer alot of questions. Great comparison.
I'll be honest -- I got here by way of searching 'spray adhesive project farm' and to my surprise, Todd has not tested spray adhesives.
This is a good comparison video and got me the answer I was looking for. Keep it up and you'll be on your way to joining PF in the YT Hall of Fame!
Thanks for taking the time! 3M it is!
PF is definitely in the Hall of Fame for comparison videos! We are big fans of that channel. Thanks for the comments!
Well done, saved me some time trying to figure out which one to use for an upcoming job. Thanks
Since I might want / need to re-do my work, I think I might go with the Gorilla glue, since it can be pulled up again. Very useful demonstration!
Excellent test. I was surprised to see the Weldwood lift so easily.
That surprised me as well!
It would be nice to see a similar test done for adherence when outdoor carpet is fixed to concrete.
In that situation I would probably use the can of outdoor carpet adhesive. But who knows, maybe I’ll do another test video!
Nice video. Thanx for doing it.
I see many people use the 3M to attach outdoor type carpet & rubber flooring on wood floors & ramps of enclosed trailers they use for carrying motorcycles, bicycles,...
Thinking I might have to use that on the step ladder for truck!
I use 3m 90 for gluing vinyl headliner to luan plywood in my boat. I don't wanna take any chances!!
Could you further elaborate your test for us and give us the recount of the fume residual odor after 48 hours please?thanks.
What would be best one for hydro turf Jetski
I am not sure. I thought most of that stuff had its own peel and stick adhesive.
Same question, only for fiberglass boat. The hydro turf I bought does not have adhesive on the back saving me 35$ a roll. Probably worth spending 35$ extra now that I’m thinking about it but… if anyone knows best adhesive for fiberglass to foam - much appreciated
Great video. I'd be interested in seeing a comparison between the 3M Super 77 and the 3M high Strength 90
I am working on a project with the 90! Thanks for watching!
What is the best adhesive for attaching a rubber mat to the wall? I'm using it for sound dampening
Do you have any suggestions for a spray adhesive that works well on wood even if you don't spray both surfaces?
Just what I needed to know. Thank you for positing
Any idea what would be best to put carpet on fiberglass?
If it were me, I would try either the 3M 70 or maybe the 3M 90
Will it be strong enough if to use it for rubber material to attach with plastic material surface?
I have not tried to bond rubber with this product. Great question, now you have me curious lol
Thank you so much... this was super helpful!
how about weatherbproof? water? heat?
Very helpful. Just what I was looking for.
Amazing video. Thanks for everything you do. Keep it up 👍
Video Request: I suspect that your spray can shaker is doing little, if anything. You should test it with some type of clear capped tube or jar, add equal parts of clear and dark color paint that has been thinned slightly thicker than water but, no thicker than milk. Put a marble in, then add the color paint first, then very gently add the the clear on top, not disturbing the color paint. Put one in the paint shaker and do the other one by hand for the same amount of time, shaking it up and down.
I wish the 77 came in a can to be able to roll-on very large areas.
3M for me. Ill use it on my boat carpeting.
I knew I shoud've bought the 3m spray. 3M has done well for me in the past.
Does the 3M 77 have odor after? Wanting to use on mattress foam repair.
The Oder goes away after a while!
3m for the win, after all it is commercial grade and what we used for corner bead on drywall corners. Never had an issue with that application
I have a metal building and thinking of putting R13 or R19 insulation on the walls. Spray foam insulation is just to expensive. I live in So. TX and it's normally in the 90's and somtimes 100's during the summer. Can you recommend a spray adhesive to be able to stick the insulation onto the metal?
Thanks for watching the video! 3M makes a high temp adhesive but I’ve never used it. I’d like to give it a try and see what it can do some day. Here is a link to 3M’s description ▶️www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b40069424/?gclid=CjwKCAjw1MajBhAcEiwAagW9MSij1_JEhPazP_scGXXys0r1yoCfzq149D-whTxCB0FVUw_8pktndBoCqfEQAvD_BwE
Is it me or is the script identical format and style to Project Farm?
Great video! Nicely done. Liked and subscribed. Super77 is superglue in a can, love the stuff for bonding paper, felt, and plastic. 👍
Great review my man. Used that 3m 77 for reupholestering the door cards of the car but i fear that not hold the temperatures that reach the interiors on summer. In my location we reach 43ºc on exterior. What do you think?
Lots of folks have commented about heat with this product. Here in Las Vegas a car!s interior can get up to 60°c. Yesterday it was 43°c outside! So far the glue is holding up fine on my carpet. Thanks for commenting!
I suscribe … i love your videos
Nice video.
Would you consider testing the
ADHD 127 DAP Weldwood Contact Adhesive in its own Spray can vs the 3M 77 ?
Funny how this video shows up in my feed, a day after using the 3M 77 adhesive on a project involving lining a road case (birch plywood) with an automotive style (thin pile) carpet. I was very surprised by the bond - and impressed. But even while working outdoors, I did manage a partial aerosol glue high. Wear a mask, folks.
I was impressed with bonding strength as well. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the warning. Smells and dangerous fumes are my biggest concern!
I think all of those adhesives have their purpose. Sometimes you have to remove the item to replace it with a new one so you don’t want to glue to be too strong. I’m here because I’m gluing down my camper indoor outdoor carpet to my cement patio. There are some fierce winds here. 😅
I am still trying to separate an mdf panel from an aluminum panel glued with super 77 3M. Anyone here can help me if there are a way or a product to separate both panels? Please
Heat
“We’re going to test that” 😂😂 gotta like from me just cause u said that 😂💯🫡
Excellent!!! Just what I needed to know!!🌹
Alright, but which one of these is best for my hair?
Quality video, thank you.
Thanks for this video! Been debating what to use to adhere felt backed woven vinyl flooring to wood subfloor in my van, was already thinking 3M spray over the DAP and this only confirmed my choice! ease of install and tight hold is what I was looking for!!
This stuff worked great for me! Thanks for commenting!
I've heard the 3m 90 green can is much stronger than the 3m 77 ...is this true?
In situations where “heat” is a factor I would say yes, the 90 is recommended.
I may be here for the wrong reason, but i was trying to find a strong glue for art and craft project with my granddaughter. To glue gems, cloth flowers, hats etc. on rubber duckies. I thought spray glue would do a cleaner job, also most glues do not hold. I think ill try it.
Let’s us know how it works out!
3M High Strength 90 would be a better product to try over the 3M Super 77.
The pro's in every upholstery shop that I've seen use Dap HHR top & trim solvent contact adhesive. You need a sprayer though.
Thanks for commenting. I’ll bet upholstery shops really have the good stuff!
Should have used 3m 90.
Yes!! Team 3M super 77 for the win!!
Thank you! You just saved me from making a very expensive mistake!
I have found few Gorilla brand adhesives or glues that work well. I hate when I need something fast and come to Gorilla products because I know I will not be happy
You should not use 3M 77 for long term bonds. It is very susceptible to UV and heat and breaks down losing its bond.
What do you recommend for high heat Temps, I'm looking for something for the ceiling in my motorhome . Have a piece lose and have no idea what to use . Any info would be greatly appreciated.
@@davenstorm7271 Dap Weldwood.
@davenstorm7271 i’m working on a project now that has some pretty high temps and I’m going to be using the 3M Super 90
@@MrFredsDIY What is the residual fumes from the 77 and 90 after complete curing? I want to use it to add additional insulation to my motorhome but afraid of smell... TIA
@sfields6903 I have seen folks use this product and the 3M super 90 for automotive headliners. I stopped noticing the smell after a week or so.
Well done!
I guess the boat floor didn't make it. The link was not "right here" when he finishes it.
Thanks for pointing out the broken link! Here is a playlist of the eight videos I have made with this boat.
ua-cam.com/play/PLN1CtBYDO93TdBpueaLMBsNeiZxaWRKER.html&si=0JTKPyfvXtcQEnOg
Nice job 👏
Great video and very helpful in confirming my 3M 77 purchase. And P.S., I've never been a fan of anything Gorilla Glue. Waste of time and money.
This video certainly enlightened me. I was totally surprised about many of these brands.
Anything 3M makes is top shelf. Was really surprised to see the Super77 be the cheapest. I've used the 77 & 90 contact adhesive before & they cannot be beat. Kinda like 5200, yea you can "remove" it but you'll pull apart whatever it's hooked to.
Gorilla has only impressed me with their duct tape, glues not so much. Looks like loctite needs to stick to loctite thread locker.
That is certainly an interesting idea! Thanks for watching!
Any carpet hit at the edges will do that, no glue will stop it happening, it’s all about the backing and the overall carpet quality, plus the edges will be at the skirting so it’s not going to happen, nevertheless a good video with plenty of info.
Thank you much appreciated
Thanks for sharing.
3M has been in the game for a long time. It’s the choice for professional architects. ….well it was when drawing was done by hand! Those days are long gone….Tom
I don’t know why you wouldn’t have tested 3m 90
The 3m 90 is STRONG 💪 that’s what you need
"We going to test that" was that you paying homage to the king of youtube tests... project farm?
No one does it better than Todd!
Super 77 all day is my vote before it starts lol
I've stopped purchasing Gorilla Glue products of any kind. They don't measure up to their competition. The company just has better marketing.
3M 90 is the best - much better than the 3M 77
3M 77
Junk on headliner in heat
What would you recommend for that ?
@@davenstorm7271 3M 77 holds to 100 F degrees while 3M 90 holds to 160 F degrees. In official 3M data sheets, 3M 77 fails at 205 degrees F while 90 fails at 250 degrees F. Cars, especially roofs, get very hot so people have bad success with 3M 77. Of the 3M products, you are going to want 3M 90 or 3M 38808 Headliner and Fabric Adhesive. But there are also many non-3M products - many swear by Weldwood brush on. And when picking something, you need to evaluate what you are gluing - fabric to foam, foam to metal roof, etc.
From my experience, The Gorilla is the best.
The only Gorilla Glue product I would use is the duct tape- best in the world and it’s not close. The glues they make are overpriced seconds.
Gorilla glue has done a great job of marketing their glues, but they aren’t very good. I don’t use any of their glues
Marketing sells for sure!
Project farms cousin
Don’t be stealing Project Farm’s “we’re gonna test that” slogan
There’s only room for one gorilla on UA-cam and that’s me!
I just saved myself $150 bucks
"We're gonna test that"
Hey Fred, stop ripping off Project Farm
👮♂️The word police have spoken!
Ive found gorilla products to be very poor. I can't believe people purchase them
Don’t buy 3m heat gets It
Headliner material
Project Farm channel is better and original.
The most useless test on UA-cam! Thank you!