I'm a male engineer. I've witnessed a lot of pressure from educational systems on my female friends to try to push them toward engineering when they don't really want to do it. A lot of my female engineering school friends changed majors. A lot of those that graduated changed careers not long after graduation. They all said the same thing, "it's not that I don't feel welcome in the engineering community. I just want a job where I work more with people instead of designing things." They usually switched to physical or life science careers, medical careers, or organizational leadership careers. This is not a bad thing. It just shows women are free to pursue careers that they are interested in. We shouldn't freak out just because there's not a 50/50 male/female spilt in every occupational demographic.
@jeremypearson9019 and I don't hear this woman complaining that the ratio of female to male car mechanics/sparkies/painters&decorators isn't 50/50. Or Kindergarden teachers/workers... All just part of the show. "...fomenting hatred..." as @Wolf88888 wrote.
She thinks guys need to get more in touch with their feelings and women need to be more aggressive. In other words, feminize men and masculinize women. Is that her way of "equalizing" things?
@@RickMcCargar Peterson had science? Where? Where did he outsmart her? Timestamp and quote? When he said dogs and cats only differ in how they look and how they act?
There is an imbalance in the dialogue between Peterson and this woman. The imbalance derived from the fact that his mental acumen absolutely dwarves her’s. His thoughts are based on scientific study and her’s are based on emotion. This is not an unusual difference between men and women but it is by no means mutually exclusive.
I'd ask her "what's stopping women from becoming entrepreneurs, CEOs, or Prime Ministers?" Because there are no legal or institutional obstacles in place, the only answer she could give would be "men," and what she would actually mean is competition; the same thing with which every man must engage to succeed. And so her solution must necessarily entail that men must step aside and let women succeed without competing, the natural consequence of which is that inferior persons would take on those roles.
@@reshpeck she would likely say its because nobody hores them for these positions, not realising that most CEO are not hired but did do the work of starting their companies, which few men do and fewer women still.
Actually the statement is total nonsense. Did slaves contribute to the economy and success of the south? Yes. Were slaves oppressed? Yes. That someone has contributed has nothing to do with whether they were controlled.
I found the statement to be absurdly moronic and cliché. For the most part, all the technological marvels and enhancements throughout history , and in particular in the last 250 years, has been because of men, not women. let’s call a spade spade and stop being afraid to say what is true !
Ive met enormous amount of Scandinavians, 99% of them spoke perfect English, she's a politician and she speaks at elementary level. I don't think she understood anything he had said, and her "rebuttal" sounded like a 5th grader new-years resolutions 😬
The young lady here (I'm almost 70... she's young by my standards) seems fixated on high-level, executive job opportunities for women. Almost nobody starts at the top. What about apprentice-level, journeyman-level skilled trades jobs? Where are the women lining up for these positions?
In the company where I'm employed, very few women flock to the work floor, as it is a very technical trade in which we operate. But, women are overrepresented here at the HR department, the administration, sales, marketing, everywhere, except the places where work is blue-collar. It's not that we actively discourage women to join the work floor. They simply do not seem to like that kind of work, where heavy lifting is involved, and hands-on technical tasks, which are traditionally regarded as men's domain, but officially, is supposed to welcome any gender just as well. Okay, let's have them. We invite you to come here and weld, grind and machine stuff, drive to our clients and get your hands dirty, climb up scaffolding and install stuff, pick up that bag of tools and repair stuff. We welcome you. So, why are our women then only to be found in the white-collar offices then? Go figure.
She said she wants to have a female Prime Minister. That only benefits one person everyone else in the nation benefits from having a competent Prime Minister. Here in New Zealand we have had three female Prime Ministers one was good one was bad and the other was terrible. None of them were better because they were female.
@@psychcowboy1 He provided examples from STEM research as well as citing 'Science' which are both verifiable. You're choosing not to acknowledge that. Look it up while having those fingers in your ears shouting _"La la la la la"_ .
@@Jizzlewobbwtfcus I understand, you are pretty sure Peterson dismantled someone with facts, but you aren't sure where that happened. If you find it LMK.
oh she understands completely, he takes data of a result that he draws false conclusions from, politicians do that all the time, she was merely recognizing Peterson is just another politician.
I feel ashamed - being a swede and remembering this unfortunate interview on Skavlan ( a prominent journalist interviwer with his own show) . This woman , a crazy so called representative for one of our democratic ( center) parties here in sweden, being so totaly igorant of what Jordan was really talking about .... I am happy to say she has since retired from politics ...She obviously have no idea what Jordan is talking about .....I recall our foreign minister at the time - said that Jordan Peterson 'should crawl under the rock from where he came from '....All of Sweden took a stand against Jordan after that .... I am ashamed of my country ... Then Jordan came here on his talking tour ... it was sold out- so I am happy to see that the politicians do NOT represent regular people ....men or women !
The feminist argument: I am a woman so by default, the man is wrong, regardless his opinion. If the man states a fact, then the fact is turned around to be an opinion.
@@psychcowboy1 Do a deep dive. There are dozens of videos out there that show Peterson completely dismantling his opposition. You might actually learn something.
This is what those kind of ppl resort to when someone stands up to, and obliterates their nonsensical narratives; they start getting confrontational and at times even a bit insulting.
Or did he just convince you that he is? If you verify them yourself, you will actually see that some are absolutely facts and some are bend to better fit his argument, while others are straight up reversed. Also, just claiming that something is FACTS does not rule out any possibility of doubt.
This woman was the leader of a political party in Sweden called Center party and Former Minister for Business and Industry of Sweden. So you can see how deep rooted her thoughts and ideas are in Swedish society. Where boy & men become sensitive girls and women walking around like confident masculine men. It’s very strange times in Sweden and the experiment has failed.
@@reneelibby4885 I couldn't name another Man that is similar to Jordan Petersen, but if you know of one then I'm happy to look them up and look into their research.
Nothing wrong with sociolism - which is also what Peterson is promoting: taking care of one another, equal opportunity. And this debate is not about sociolism, it's about equal rights vs gender "equalisism" the latter is a word i made up... If your time in sweeden has made you encounter a lot of idiots, that's a different point, but nothing to do with the debate :)
Ssshhh... don't give the game away! There'a gazillion op moments, waiting to happen here.. and you want to spoil it with a tiny winey thing like, the truth?
@@peterkrygersrensen1283they wernt talking about the debate being a socialist debate they were talking about their own personal experience while they lived there. (:
@peterkrygersrensen1283 dude if you think Peterson was promoting socialism, 🤣 you really need too go check the definition! Peterson is one very few in psychology or sociology who seems too realize that while socialism is a beautiful idea on paper it never works in the real world because it runs counter against human nature
Some do, but many when they hit thirty realize their biological clock is running late and they start looking for a mate and give up the 80 hour work week!!
Anyone who thrives on the unending cycle of 80 hour work weeks is disregarding the futility of it all. You get to move your desk from the cubicle to a private office and access to a nicer bathroom. Add to that package a higher salary. Top it off with increased job demands that suck the blood out of your circulatory system. You applaud yourself for being able to move to a more expensive neighborhood to a house in which you will spend very little of your time. Do you see where I am going with this? If that is the absolute best life you can imagine, you are welcome to it. Enjoy.
We are searching for a smart idea by JP. Did anyone find one? Based? Equality of opportunity is good and equality of outcome is bad = duh, any 8th grader can figure that out. Egalitarian measures maximize different job choices by men and women = 100% false for the US. There is only two ways males and females differ; culture and biology. = funny, that is as insightful as saying cats and dogs only differ in how they look and how they act. Figure that out on your own Jordan? The magizine Science confirmed this? I doubt it. Men like things and women like people issues. = you needed psychology to figure that out JP? Who on earth needs JP to explain the difference between males and females? Not me. Egalitarianism was driven by toilets, tampons and the pill? = Based, why aren't you laughing your ass off? I am a specialist in gender issues, I studied it for 20 years = so JP is a gender studies major?
This is the way I see it. My dad was an auto mechanic and we spent thousands of hours together in the shop while I was growing up. Consequently I know how about engines, tires, transmissions, braking systems, alternators, batteries, starters, exhaust systems, etc. I can change the oil in my car, when needed. But, if a man is wiling to do it for me, I'll gladly step aside and make the pot roast for our dinner instead. I'm no fool!
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I hated her since the start and I wish her all the worst. Thankfully she's not spreading her feminist toxicity in our government anymore. Only 1 of our politicians said he was not a feminist - the leader of the national conservative party. As of now they're the 2nd biggest party.
@@Foffer1337 and what do u know of being Scandinavian? u dont even look from that part of the world, homie... if u knew how to spell right/use the proper grammar, i might have thought u were from around here, but with that spelling/grammar, it makes me think u are from the US...
As a fellow swede, people like her running the parliament is the reason I have no faith or interest in our politics at all. It's like trying to have a conversation with a retarded wall. So I opted out a long time ago because there is no point.
I am a board-certified therapist, in practice for nearly 25 years. I can tell you unequivocally, the vast majority of men view the world and their lives through a cognitive frame of 'construction', whereas most women experience life through a frame of 'relating'. Men and women think very differently, even when outward differences appear small. What is more, the history of feminism is deeply rooted in Marxism -- a carcinogenic ideology that thrives on fomenting needless hatred and division as a mechanism for seizing political power.
I'm a woman so I go to a female therapist. She understands the perspective of being a woman in a man's world. Oppression of women existed long before Marxism and continues to this day. Feminism in my definition is being treated equally. That's all.
Yes to that: Feminism is a Marxist construct designed to break apart traditional societies -- yes, intentionally; and the foolish women who cling to this Marxist folly make of themselves useful idiots to lunatics who are using them for their own nefarious goals.
That's a nonsensical syllogism. People often freely choose equality in some respect or another, for example in supporting a democratic, one person one vote electoral system. Does having equal votes mean they aren't free? Does freely choosing equality mean they are not equal?
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257 I think what you mean to say is one commenter is arguing with facts rather than feelings: Did JP say something intelligent in this video that ruthlessly dismantled anyone? Can you timestamp and quote. In another video he says the West is an oppressive patriarchy. Was it when he denied that a good education is a good platform, when he astonished us that men and women differ only in how they look and act, when he astonished us that life was very very very very difficult before advances in food and medicine, when he made up the straw man that boys are being discouraged to succeed? So you are saying all along everyone had equal opportunity? JP: No I am saying all along hardly anyone had any opportunity. [JP evades the question about gender bias to talk about advances in technology. Score for panelists.] We are discouraging boys from succeeding. Annie: 'I should encourage my daughter to succeed. JP: That's not what the evidence suggests. [Score for panelists.] Egalitarian measures push women further into typical gender roles. [100% wrong for egalitarian measures in the US starting around 1960 that saw women move into male vocations. Score for panelists.]
I mean - he’s not actually saying anything of consequence. He’s saying that if you maximize equality of opportunity, women might still choose caring professions and men might still work with their hands. Duh.
I agree but the feminist couldn't accept someone stating facts because people like her will always think that feelings should override facts and data which is why we're lucky that she wasn't an engineer.
I notice she's never advocating for women to work on the roads, in construction, on oil rigs, work in a sewage farm, as a saturation diver, or join the army or become a motor mechanic. It's about being a prime minister or some other achievement.
Always. And they can get the jobs no problem. The issues are they never last, aren't literally capable of performing the job duties, or cause issues with crew members over "unfair treatment" when it's the literal same treatment each other male crew member already receives and dishes out. They want ideological equality, not real equality.
Few men can do and want that job. I've worked on boats a few times (just helping transport boats around the Caribbean and once in Oceana) and no way would I do those Alaskan jobs.
@@wickedbird1538 ohh the money is great. But there is also a reason the money is so great lol. Good on your brother, I hope he has a great time and retirement.
Notice during her first rebuttle she says its important for "lonely young men, and women". Implying women are never lonely. Feminist at its finest. She is not about equality. She is about the empowerment of women at the detriment of men. Her subtly man bashing wording proves this.
She said nothing about race. She declared what country she is from. Any race can live in Nigeria and multiple races do live in Nigeria. @@slvrstocks9906
Well, there is a bit of language barrier for her, but also I think it's obvious that she has been educated more through a certain amount of liberal ignorance of facts. This interview, though, is a great example of what Dr. Peterson has had to deal with every since he became famous for the pronoun crap that was forced on him during the arguments when the Ontario constitution was being changed to a more communist agenda. He has been constantly attacked about this egalitarian crap. These people in this discussion are just flabbergasted about what they have been led to believe about Dr. Peterson before he came to this. It's obvious that their egalitarian outlook is based on the equal outcome which to me is communism. None of these people understand the equal opportunity idea at all.
@@justinwilbur4094 it depends on what the meaning of "makes" is. !) to bring into existence. 2) to produce 3) to do, effect. 4) causation to form in the mind. 5) myriad of other meanings. you need to relax.
They are mind blown because they can't believe some1 actually has the evidence and done the research about his position on the matter, instead of saying "It's my truth, and if u don't agree ur fascist!"
Why is being different a bad thing ? My wife has strengths I don't have and I have strengths she doesn't have, together we are stronger and life is easier because of our differences.
If the matriarchs are teaching boys to be less aggressive and non competitive. Then also teach the girls not to be so irrational and emote all their frustrations and axietties onto others. Stop the feelgoodism!
You're misinterpreting. She just meant that both boys and girls should be taught the same things which are self-confidence and empathy. That's why she said boys should be taught to be more empathetic and girls need more self-confidence because only one thing is focused more on one gender. For example, I was raised in a very traditional masculine way. So I find it hard to share my emotions(specially troubling one) with people, and this affects my mental health negatively. also, many women I know were not taught they could achieve whatever they like so they find it harder to gather the courage to take risks and have confidence.
@@navneetyadav7139 It's not the education systems job to teach self confidence. It's the parents job. Anything outside the three R's is social engineering. Social engineering from a government source is agenda driven. Any drive in the government is to control.
as a Swede, every time I watch this interview, secondhand emberassement tangles my whole lower body that I drop the urge to take a shit if I was in need to do it
@@gibba2495 they don't need forced. But just imagine a male job boycott where all men banded together and stopped doing all the jobs almost only worked by males.
@tanisabenulic2861 Were you going to make a point about something, or was that broad sweeping, nonsensical generalization just to cope with hearing things you don't like?
No he is really not. But he thinke he is. He is smart but he is to cathegorical black and White thinking, at least when he express him self. He is not eighther the only thinker/proffesor. I love Vygotskji, Antonovsky and Cziczentmihaly who never had to talked (they are now dead) about what gender is best intended to do. Thats differs between gender and persons. Its not interesting to talk about what the bilology has in mind for US because its not the only thing that matters
@@KARIN1980ification he doesn't give an opinion. He gives data, scientific tests which have been made and also the outcomes of them. That's being smart, he doesn't try to impose his view of the world unlike others here. But like Charlie Kirk said once: in the end, your reality doesn't matter, because there's a general truth that is defined by facts and logical reasoning. If you can't handle it then keep your lies to yourself, because the entire woke ideology nowadays is based on delusion.
I’m a male engineer whom doesn’t deal well with comforting and dealing with others emotions and my wife works within the public helping others through difficult situations with compassion and understanding. This is my choice, and this is her choice. We both try to experience the others world and find that as a whole we are comfortable where we are not saying that we can’t succeed in those fields, but we choose our own fields out of our own comforts and abilities
As a man myself, born in the 1970's, if your a man, you have the ability to contribute to society and to become a great person. Don't let people tell you you are bad because you were born with a set of 🥜's. Your behavior and actions are what makes you good or bad. Make sure your actions benefit others as much if not more than yourself and you will do great things.
@@stephenflores5050 A good education is a good platform for my daughter to become a CEO, engineer, or nurse. JP: That is not what the evidence suggests. Huh? A good education isn't a good platform for higher level jobs? Feminist ruthlessly destroys JP world view!
Maybe a good platform but it doesn’t mean she’s going to take it, she may alternatively decide to earn her living on her back, parents can guide their children but they can’t make their choices.
Don't forget sewer workers, drywall installers, concrete workers, Ditch diggers, most jobs that are outdoors, etc....AND!,,,I want to see a 50/50 division of men and women in prison, not 95%/5%
Ahahahahahahah! Yup, garbage man too, and professional butchers working in slaughterhouses in the front end kill floor, 50% woman I'm sure are there too. 😂
@@MirwaCuutarila Because he deals with toxic and stupid and angry people all the time. He just wants what's best for people and he gets attacked and called a nazi for looking out for people and helping people.
I work in the film industry. I see the same thing. Women complain about not being represented in action films, but when you look at the data, you see that most women are not interested in action films. They like romantic films. Then male filmmakers are being criticised for not cadering to the female audience, the thing that they don't want to see. The issue is not opportunity, but preference. The reason why a film like Madame Web flops, is that it is a film genre mostly watched by men, but a film marketed to have a feminist agenda, so neither men nor women show up to watch it. Bit the narrative is that men don't want to support strong independent women. Well sorry, but women don't want to support strong independent women. That's not my opinion. That's what the data says.
The thing that caught my attention was when she said we don't have as many women Entrepreneurs. I kind of wish someone would point out that many, if not most entrepreneurs fail, and in doing so can lose EVERYTHING they have invested. Does she want more women to risk (and should they fail, lose) everything? If not, she is not for equality, she is for special privilege.
@lordphontaroy3592 You have expressed your feelings that 'none of these people could grasp it'. I am a fact person. Timestamp and quote where 'none of these people understanding the difference between equality of outcome and equality of opportunity.' Did you notice the straw man goal post switch by JP when the guy said 'So you are saying all along everyone had the same opportunity'?
I don’t know why it’s so hard for these people to imagine the opposite. In a poor country, women DON’T get a choice in their jobs: they farm, they fix things, they are soldiers - because they HAVE to, not because they want to. When absolute privation is out of the way, we get to see their true inner desires.
You can see the desperation the eyes of this panel of people showing that they think they must discredit Jordan any way they can. And the terror when he proves them wrong with facts and data. Simply priceless.
JP had facts and data? Where? 1. Equality of opportunity is good and equality of outcome is bad = duh, any 8th grader can figure that out. 2. Egalitarian measures maximize different job choices by men and women = 100% false for the US. 3. There is only two ways males and females differ; culture and biology. = funny, that is as insightful as saying cats and dogs only differ in how they look and how they act. Figure that out on your own Jordan? 4. The magizine Science confirmed this? I doubt it. 5. Men like things and women like people issues. = you needed psychology to figure that out JP? Who on earth needs JP to explain the difference between males and females? Not me. 6. Egalitarianism was driven by toilets, tampons and the pill? = Based, why aren't you laughing your ass off? 7. I am a specialist in gender issues, I studied it for 20 years = so JP is a gender studies major? 8. A good education is a good platform for my daughter to become a CEO, engineer, or nurse. JP: That is not what the evidence suggests. Huh? A good education isn't a good platform for higher level jobs? Feminist ruthlessly destroys JP world view!
Peterson is absolutely correct. I did very well in school my test scores were always excellent. It was never a matter of pride to me. What made me proud, what I enjoyed was volunteering in the special needs classroom. I had lots of jobs before I married and had children. None of them could ever compare to being a mom and caring for my family. Home and family have always been my dream and my goal. I think my success in raising intelligent, thoughtful productive children into adulthood, supporting and caring for my husband has been rewarding in ways that a career never could be.
I had someone once try to insult me by comparing how I presented a topic to Jordan Peterson. I responded kindly “not sure I am that smart, thank you for the compliment.”
The better the boys are doing, the better the girls are doing as a result and vice versa, making the world a better place for humans in general regardless of their gender/sex - isn't it what we all actually do strive for? Why isn't it obvious to all those people just dividing us into (supposedly mutually hostile) groups?
Most people on the panel can't comprehend what Jordan is trying to communicate. It must be frustrating to have a discussion with someone so intelligent lol
Throughout the whole interview, her facial expressions are priceless. She's pissed, annoyed and seems to overall feel powerless about all of it. That woman is SEETHING HARD.
I am from Sweden and this Annie Lööf really is a typical Swedish feminist: no facts just bullish arrogance and perpetual indignance.
Does she listen and watch herself?
Is she the type of politician that is inviting islam to the country?
@@jimj2683 ironically Islam subjugates women. The Scandinavian countries are having a tremendous problem with Muslims raping their women.
@@jimj2683 why should we not invite muslims to Sweden?
Let US Women be the hell we like to be, pleace! And stop bullying ((this strong woman Annie Löv)) thats just shows your ignorance and supidity 🙏🌈❤️✨🔥🦋
This woman's qualification for being there was "I'm a feminist." This wasn't even fair lol.
Anyone capable of arguing a point against Peterson would not be a feminist in the first place. So yeah
She communicated quite loudly with her intense facial expression.
It was like Petersen was lecturing a toddler.
I don't think she understood JP's language. Her english is clumsy.
@@Petra-RockorPebble Yes, to me, that's clear. It's why she has the facial expression, she's trying to focus on his words, but having some difficulty.
I'm a male engineer. I've witnessed a lot of pressure from educational systems on my female friends to try to push them toward engineering when they don't really want to do it. A lot of my female engineering school friends changed majors. A lot of those that graduated changed careers not long after graduation. They all said the same thing, "it's not that I don't feel welcome in the engineering community. I just want a job where I work more with people instead of designing things." They usually switched to physical or life science careers, medical careers, or organizational leadership careers.
This is not a bad thing. It just shows women are free to pursue careers that they are interested in. We shouldn't freak out just because there's not a 50/50 male/female spilt in every occupational demographic.
Females at my engineering workplace come and go, can't handle the workload.The males stick around.
@jeremypearson9019 and I don't hear this woman complaining that the ratio of female to male car mechanics/sparkies/painters&decorators isn't 50/50. Or Kindergarden teachers/workers...
All just part of the show. "...fomenting hatred..." as @Wolf88888 wrote.
@@Milbro "can't handle"
maybe
"don't want to"
"see a different better way for themselves"
etc etc.
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@budbuddybuddest you beat me to it. Brikkies too!
Thx for this. This is an obvious problem of our current educational systems which brainwash women .. leading to many ultimately unhappy women. Sad
This lady is delusional. She is not listening. Peterson is not spouting opinion, he is talking about science and studies. Just like our host says.
She listened...she didn't understand.
She thinks guys need to get more in touch with their feelings and women need to be more aggressive. In other words, feminize men and masculinize women. Is that her way of "equalizing" things?
@@RickMcCargar Peterson had science? Where? Where did he outsmart her? Timestamp and quote? When he said dogs and cats only differ in how they look and how they act?
@@RickMcCargar Look at her face when she was "listenning", she understood what he was saying but had an ideological block to accepting it..
There is an imbalance in the dialogue between Peterson and this woman. The imbalance derived from the fact that his mental acumen absolutely dwarves her’s.
His thoughts are based on scientific study and her’s are based on emotion. This is not an unusual difference between men and women but it is by no means mutually exclusive.
"It's hard for a woman to become a prime minister" it's like she thinks it's easy for a man.
I'd ask her "what's stopping women from becoming entrepreneurs, CEOs, or Prime Ministers?" Because there are no legal or institutional obstacles in place, the only answer she could give would be "men," and what she would actually mean is competition; the same thing with which every man must engage to succeed. And so her solution must necessarily entail that men must step aside and let women succeed without competing, the natural consequence of which is that inferior persons would take on those roles.
Nailed it@@reshpeck
Thank you, @@erinavery4577!
Bigtime.
@@reshpeck she would likely say its because nobody hores them for these positions, not realising that most CEO are not hired but did do the work of starting their companies, which few men do and fewer women still.
“It’s not essentially patriarchal unless you believe that women haven’t contributed in immense part to the construction of what we have now.” Gold 👍
Actually the statement is total nonsense. Did slaves contribute to the economy and success of the south? Yes. Were slaves oppressed? Yes. That someone has contributed has nothing to do with whether they were controlled.
@@psychcowboy1 Did you just compare women to slaves as a totality? Lmao Are Female slaves double plus oppressed?
I found the statement to be absurdly moronic and cliché. For the most part, all the technological marvels and enhancements throughout history , and in particular in the last 250 years, has been because of men, not women. let’s call a spade spade and stop being afraid to say what is true !
Jordan Peterson...the most precious gift to come out of Canada in all its history.
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Highly doubtful... I went to Canada, they got great bears.
He is ok though, in THESE talking points, bc they are TRUE. .
Well...He certainly beats Trudeau! Although I would vote for Wayne Gretzky!
I agree & I like him a lot, but then again it is Canada & the choices are scanty at best.
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“This is the data.“
“I disagree.”
Ideology vs facts.
A stupid women with high confidence. A politician.
Switch "log" with "c".
@@GlennRobert71 Did JP have any facts?
@@jerrygreene1493did you not watch the video?🤨
@@zoltanracz5591 We are looking for a spot where JP used insightful facts to dismantle the feminist. Did you find any?
Ive met enormous amount of Scandinavians, 99% of them spoke perfect English, she's a politician and she speaks at elementary level.
I don't think she understood anything he had said, and her "rebuttal" sounded like a 5th grader new-years resolutions 😬
Ironically....the idiot that made this thumbnail types at a elementary level ....it's probably her cousin 😂
She is a joke here in Sweden. I'm surprised she was invited there.
The young lady here (I'm almost 70... she's young by my standards) seems fixated on high-level, executive job opportunities for women. Almost nobody starts at the top. What about apprentice-level, journeyman-level skilled trades jobs? Where are the women lining up for these positions?
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In the company where I'm employed, very few women flock to the work floor, as it is a very technical trade in which we operate. But, women are overrepresented here at the HR department, the administration, sales, marketing, everywhere, except the places where work is blue-collar.
It's not that we actively discourage women to join the work floor. They simply do not seem to like that kind of work, where heavy lifting is involved, and hands-on technical tasks, which are traditionally regarded as men's domain, but officially, is supposed to welcome any gender just as well. Okay, let's have them. We invite you to come here and weld, grind and machine stuff, drive to our clients and get your hands dirty, climb up scaffolding and install stuff, pick up that bag of tools and repair stuff. We welcome you. So, why are our women then only to be found in the white-collar offices then? Go figure.
The politician is completely lost.....she just doesn't understand the science.
The fact she choose a career women choose is lost on her. Why doesn’t she become a civil engineer or digging graves - she can start with her own.
She doesn't want to!
She looks at Jordan Peterson with contempt. And all he is doing is stating facts.
‘DEItician’ . . .
She said she wants to have a female Prime Minister. That only benefits one person everyone else in the nation benefits from having a competent Prime Minister. Here in New Zealand we have had three female Prime Ministers one was good one was bad and the other was terrible. None of them were better because they were female.
Jordan: here's the data, here's the facts
Swedish Politician: here's my feelings
No one can find a spot where JP dismantled anyone.
@@psychcowboy1 and you keep Capping to much
@@suzanneros802 I agree, you can't find a spot where JP dismantled anyone.!
@@psychcowboy1 He provided examples from STEM research as well as citing 'Science' which are both verifiable. You're choosing not to acknowledge that. Look it up while having those fingers in your ears shouting _"La la la la la"_ .
@@Jizzlewobbwtfcus I understand, you are pretty sure Peterson dismantled someone with facts, but you aren't sure where that happened. If you find it LMK.
These politicians do not even understand what Peterson is explaining
Most of them have never had a logical bone in their body. They follow public opinion and spout rhetoric based on that.
This is what happens when, in most cases you get elected not because you have the skills, but only because you know a specific circle of people...
Some women destroy a movie franchise, others destroy whole countries.
oh she understands completely, he takes data of a result that he draws false conclusions from, politicians do that all the time, she was merely recognizing Peterson is just another politician.
@@artie218 Fem-Troll
I feel ashamed - being a swede and remembering this unfortunate interview on Skavlan ( a prominent journalist interviwer with his own show) . This woman , a crazy so called representative for one of our democratic ( center) parties here in sweden, being so totaly igorant of what Jordan was really talking about .... I am happy to say she has since retired from politics ...She obviously have no idea what Jordan is talking about .....I recall our foreign minister at the time - said that Jordan Peterson 'should crawl under the rock from where he came from '....All of Sweden took a stand against Jordan after that .... I am ashamed of my country ... Then Jordan came here on his talking tour ... it was sold out- so I am happy to see that the politicians do NOT represent regular people ....men or women !
Published opinion is very different from public opinion.
These days they almost never do in the west.
I'm glad the Swedes are rejecting the disintegration of the family and family values, in other words, supporting traditional Christian values.
@@dadaistaingegniere No one can find a place where Peterson dismantled anyone.
It's so fascinating that Sweden went from Vikings to soy boys.
The feminist argument: I am a woman so by default, the man is wrong, regardless his opinion. If the man states a fact, then the fact is turned around to be an opinion.
"Don't try to understand women, women understand women and they hate each other." - Al Bundy
We don’t hate each other at all. That’s just some narrative that men painted of women to keep us down.
Lol yup
Grow up jackas. Hating women is a baby toy.
So right.
Truth and fact
The ignorance & shallow thinking of this woman is astonishing. It’s like watching a grown man speaking with a little girl. I’m embarrassed for her.
It was like watching a man speak to a woman
agreed,... and it's prevalent
Toxic femininity.
@@vaekkriinhart4347 No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson that dismantled anyone.
@@psychcowboy1 Do a deep dive. There are dozens of videos out there that show Peterson completely dismantling his opposition. You might actually learn something.
"Do you like being controversial?" like wtf, he's spitting FACTS!!!
This is what those kind of ppl resort to when someone stands up to, and obliterates their nonsensical narratives; they start getting confrontational and at times even a bit insulting.
Or did he just convince you that he is? If you verify them yourself, you will actually see that some are absolutely facts and some are bend to better fit his argument, while others are straight up reversed. Also, just claiming that something is FACTS does not rule out any possibility of doubt.
@@noxlupi1 You sound smart....not.
@@botchvinik8668 if dont have to, just spitting facts! :p
@@andreamarchiori9727 not so long ago, facts ended a conversation. Now, they’re “controversial” 🤦🏾♂️
It's like she doesn't understand a single thing he's saying
There seems to be a language barrier
They’re regarded
Cuz she went there with one intention . But no evidence
Its intentional
@@willpotter8772No. Just idelology.
THE LADIES' CONSTANT FACE OF DOUBT AND I AM ABOVE ARE ANNOYING
pompous politician face
You can see the smell of stink on her upper lip.
That's her O face. Eeeew, brother, eeew!!!
@@matrixcom69 Did JP say something intelligent?
She is in denial
This woman was the leader of a political party in Sweden called Center party and Former Minister for Business and Industry of Sweden.
So you can see how deep rooted her thoughts and ideas are in Swedish society. Where boy & men become sensitive girls and women walking around like confident masculine men. It’s very strange times in Sweden and the experiment has failed.
No wonder Sweden has been crumbling before our eyes! 😮
I'm American...and I'm honestly jealous that Jordan Petersen isn't from here. We DESPERATELY need more people like him.
Well, he is American as I am American as well. America isn't only the USA. America is from Alaska to Ushuaia in Chile.
@@serpa-studio No one can find a profound intellectual idea by Peterson that dismantled anyone.
oh , there are plenty of fellows like him. many vote for Trump.
@@reneelibby4885 I couldn't name another Man that is similar to Jordan Petersen, but if you know of one then I'm happy to look them up and look into their research.
Do you know a country name Canada? It's north of the US... that's where he is from.
He doesn’t provoke people, he certainly provokes muppets.
Hi doesn't provoke Muppets, Muppets are provoked by hearing truth. It's a very different viewpoint.
Ms. Piggy is very angry😂
In its infinite wisdom and cosmic balance, when the universe gives us Justin Trudeau out of Canada, it also gives us Jordan Peterson.
beautiful, @vandergruff!
She is an example of what is destroying the west
You're right. Who are these people that are against family life and normality? The pathetic Woke are undermining our civilization.
No one can find a profound intellectual idea by Peterson that dismantled anyone.
yes. it's that simple.
@@psychcowboy1well that’s not true.
@@RodericGurrola You found a spot where Peterson dismantled the feminist? Where?
I’m a Swede and I’m embarrassed by this women’s nonsense. I’m afraid she represent around 50% of the country.
50% of the country and 100% of the feminists.
Härligt att man som pajas-sd:are får chansen och ryta till och få likes?
I used to live in Sweden for 10 years. To me it feels like a parade of socialist idiots. So happy that I got out of there.
Good on you for getting out of that place.
Nothing wrong with sociolism - which is also what Peterson is promoting: taking care of one another, equal opportunity. And this debate is not about sociolism, it's about equal rights vs gender "equalisism" the latter is a word i made up...
If your time in sweeden has made you encounter a lot of idiots, that's a different point, but nothing to do with the debate :)
Ssshhh... don't give the game away! There'a gazillion op moments, waiting to happen here.. and you want to spoil it with a tiny winey thing like, the truth?
@@peterkrygersrensen1283they wernt talking about the debate being a socialist debate they were talking about their own personal experience while they lived there. (:
@peterkrygersrensen1283 dude if you think Peterson was promoting socialism, 🤣 you really need too go check the definition! Peterson is one very few in psychology or sociology who seems too realize that while socialism is a beautiful idea on paper it never works in the real world because it runs counter against human nature
Women don't want the high stress corporate job where they work 80 hours/week. They have the privilege of a glass basement.
Some do, but many when they hit thirty realize their biological clock is running late and they start looking for a mate and give up the 80 hour work week!!
Anyone who thrives on the unending cycle of 80 hour work weeks is disregarding the futility of it all. You get to move your desk from the cubicle to a private office and access to a nicer bathroom. Add to that package a higher salary. Top it off with increased job demands that suck the blood out of your circulatory system. You applaud yourself for being able to move to a more expensive neighborhood to a house in which you will spend very little of your time. Do you see where I am going with this? If that is the absolute best life you can imagine, you are welcome to it. Enjoy.
It’s called the class kitchen.
I LOVE "glass basement." Awesome!
Rather they have a titanium basement. completely unbreakable...
Men have the Glass basement, it can be shattered and fallen through very easily
They really can't even comprehend what JP is saying. All they hear is " blah blah blah, not my preferred narrative!"
We are searching for a smart idea by JP. Did anyone find one? Based? Equality of opportunity is good and equality of outcome is bad = duh, any 8th grader can figure that out. Egalitarian measures maximize different job choices by men and women = 100% false for the US. There is only two ways males and females differ; culture and biology. = funny, that is as insightful as saying cats and dogs only differ in how they look and how they act. Figure that out on your own Jordan? The magizine Science confirmed this? I doubt it. Men like things and women like people issues. = you needed psychology to figure that out JP? Who on earth needs JP to explain the difference between males and females? Not me. Egalitarianism was driven by toilets, tampons and the pill? = Based, why aren't you laughing your ass off? I am a specialist in gender issues, I studied it for 20 years = so JP is a gender studies major?
This is the way I see it. My dad was an auto mechanic and we spent thousands of hours together in the shop while I was growing up. Consequently I know how about engines, tires, transmissions, braking systems, alternators, batteries, starters, exhaust systems, etc. I can change the oil in my car, when needed. But, if a man is wiling to do it for me, I'll gladly step aside and make the pot roast for our dinner instead. I'm no fool!
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I'LL DO THE POT ROAST DINNER!
YOU CHECK THE CAR FOR OUR ROAD TRIP!
And off we go into the sunset on our camping weekend with full bellys & a crockpot full of roast dinner to heat up on the barbie!
The swedish politician has previously commented on scientific data with something along the lines of "well, I don't agree".
I hated her since the start and I wish her all the worst. Thankfully she's not spreading her feminist toxicity in our government anymore. Only 1 of our politicians said he was not a feminist - the leader of the national conservative party. As of now they're the 2nd biggest party.
she doesn't disagree with his data, she disagrees with his conclusion, and rightfully so.
@@artie218 Yes, men bad. Grow up.
@@artie218 It's not his conclusion, it's the conclusion of the scientists that did the study.
The same woman said Sweden can take 40 million more immigrants.
as a Scandinavian, we dont claim her... get her out of politics!
Saying "Im from Scandinavia" makes me think you are not from Scandinavian 😂
@@Foffer1337 and what do u know of being Scandinavian? u dont even look from that part of the world, homie... if u knew how to spell right/use the proper grammar, i might have thought u were from around here, but with that spelling/grammar, it makes me think u are from the US...
@@Foffer1337I read the same comment you did, and I fail to see how that was actually said?
We (Americans) do not claim this Foffer dude either.
@@guyfyffe5920 i knew there was some people over there, with an actual brain... hello to u good sir, hope u are having a good day...
@@guyfyffe5920 Who the hell would want to be American XD Im fine living in a country where kids can go to school safely XD
Her lack of a poker face exemplifies how emotionally triggered her responses are. I admire how attentive Jordon is when she speaks
I think it's sheer shock and wonder as to how she can be so simple.
@@nicolaskrinis7614 no one can find a place where Peterson dismantled anyone.
@@psychcowboy1 I'm sure you think that.
@@nicolaskrinis7614
Did you find a spot where JP dismantled someone?
He was very kind and respectful to her considering the triple digit IQ gap.
Im a swede and i can tell you all that she isnt a big thinker at all, she is an npc by any defenition of the word
The typical mentality of a batikhäxa.
As a fellow swede, people like her running the parliament is the reason I have no faith or interest in our politics at all. It's like trying to have a conversation with a retarded wall. So I opted out a long time ago because there is no point.
I am a board-certified therapist, in practice for nearly 25 years. I can tell you unequivocally, the vast majority of men view the world and their lives through a cognitive frame of 'construction', whereas most women experience life through a frame of 'relating'. Men and women think very differently, even when outward differences appear small. What is more, the history of feminism is deeply rooted in Marxism -- a carcinogenic ideology that thrives on fomenting needless hatred and division as a mechanism for seizing political power.
Feminism started off Marxist, but now very Capitalist. That’s why feminists are so obsessed about the pay gap.
The patterns in the mechanism, how the mechanics of how the machine works ! The ANIMUS!
I'm a woman so I go to a female therapist. She understands the perspective of being a woman in a man's world. Oppression of women existed long before Marxism and continues to this day. Feminism in my definition is being treated equally. That's all.
Exactly! Sad but true!
Yes to that: Feminism is a Marxist construct designed to break apart traditional societies -- yes, intentionally; and the foolish women who cling to this Marxist folly make of themselves useful idiots to lunatics who are using them for their own nefarious goals.
How did Sweden go from being a land of Vikings, feared and revered, to this...?
I am from sweden and agree to this word
Sweden is lost
Sverige är förlorat
This is Annie Lööf former leader of centerpartiet
Take a look at the "religious" affiliations of the people spread out in positions of power.
equal people are not free; free people are not equal.
That is BRILLIANT!
Fantastic
That's a nonsensical syllogism. People often freely choose equality in some respect or another, for example in supporting a democratic, one person one vote electoral system. Does having equal votes mean they aren't free? Does freely choosing equality mean they are not equal?
that sounds brilliant. and isn't.
@@davidturgeon2087 look, just let the person bask in their 'brilliance" hahaha
This lady has a smooth brain,you can't see the differences.he just told you the difference.
result of a woman bucking the intended order.
Did JP say something intelligent?
It’s smooth as a baby’s bottom because like a baby’s bottom it hasn’t been used much.😁
We have a troll in this thread who repeats the same nonsense comment in every thread.
@@fionnmaccumhaill3257 I think what you mean to say is one commenter is arguing with facts rather than feelings:
Did JP say something intelligent in this video that ruthlessly dismantled anyone? Can you timestamp and quote. In another video he says the West is an oppressive patriarchy.
Was it when he denied that a good education is a good platform, when he astonished us that men and women differ only in how they look and act, when he astonished us that life was very very very very difficult before advances in food and medicine, when he made up the straw man that boys are being discouraged to succeed?
So you are saying all along everyone had equal opportunity? JP: No I am saying all along hardly anyone had any opportunity. [JP evades the question about gender bias to talk about advances in technology. Score for panelists.]
We are discouraging boys from succeeding. Annie: 'I should encourage my daughter to succeed. JP: That's not what the evidence suggests. [Score for panelists.]
Egalitarian measures push women further into typical gender roles. [100% wrong for egalitarian measures in the US starting around 1960 that saw women move into male vocations. Score for panelists.]
I mean - he’s not actually saying anything of consequence. He’s saying that if you maximize equality of opportunity, women might still choose caring professions and men might still work with their hands. Duh.
I agree but the feminist couldn't accept someone stating facts because people like her will always think that feelings should override facts and data which is why we're lucky that she wasn't an engineer.
Her incompetence is breath taking
My god she’s as thick as concrete.
Swedish education is built on the American Dream. The same results are happening in the U.S.
I notice she's never advocating for women to work on the roads, in construction, on oil rigs, work in a sewage farm, as a saturation diver, or join the army or become a motor mechanic. It's about being a prime minister or some other achievement.
Thank you!
All white collar. Acknowledging we are equal but not the same is strength.
Very good point
Always. And they can get the jobs no problem. The issues are they never last, aren't literally capable of performing the job duties, or cause issues with crew members over "unfair treatment" when it's the literal same treatment each other male crew member already receives and dishes out. They want ideological equality, not real equality.
@@luckycharm-g3g Wouldn't that be unequal then? Surely equal means exactly that "having the same abilities."
She is not smart, she is a Swedish politician.
Very few politicians are smart. They choose politics because it is a well paying grift with no penalties if u are caught.
😢😢My brother works on a ship in the Alaskan seas. Very dangerous. Very few women have the physical strength to do the work. Even fewer want the job.
Few men can do and want that job. I've worked on boats a few times (just helping transport boats around the Caribbean and once in Oceana) and no way would I do those Alaskan jobs.
@@aeis3007 agree. But he makes fantastic money as a 1st mate. He plans to retire in 7 years at age 70.
And a woman will say but I know a woman 😂
@@wickedbird1538 ohh the money is great. But there is also a reason the money is so great lol. Good on your brother, I hope he has a great time and retirement.
nothing wrong with any of that. most women are not as physically strong as men. just a fact.
Notice during her first rebuttle she says its important for "lonely young men, and women". Implying women are never lonely. Feminist at its finest. She is not about equality. She is about the empowerment of women at the detriment of men. Her subtly man bashing wording proves this.
Well spotted. I noticed that too.
she is smirking through the whole interview, absolutely disgusting
Jordan Peterson is a Gift to this crazy ass world…🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Scandinavians had an agenda and it failed miserably.
Yeah they just live 6 years longer than the Americans. Poor swedes
Sweden should look to it's large and growing Muslim communities for advice on gender equality.
u want evil!!!!
@@wanttopreach And just what is evil to you?
@wanttopreach you don't understand sarcasm
Yes! Erase the hate, embrace the poor Muslim ethnic minorities stop discrimination now!
Ha ha that'll be the day
It’s ‘Way TOO offended!’ Not way to offended! I’m offended.🤯🤯🤯
I was hoping someone would call out this very simple mistake. Grammar check before posting! Not hard to do. 😅
I'm a Nigerian. I have really come to love Jordan Peterson
You could just have said “i have really come to love JP” no one needs to acknowledge your race…
She said nothing about race. She declared what country she is from. Any race can live in Nigeria and multiple races do live in Nigeria. @@slvrstocks9906
He's a good dude!
@@slvrstocks9906She said nothing about race. Are you on drugs?
The look on her face. The pain of not able to comprehend higher level thought, and ideas. Feminist can only take the emotional viewpoint.
Yeah scary, he is not even saying anything complicated. And he is ”dumbing” his english to make the panel understand him
Don't generalise! There are extremely smart intellectuals of both - yea I said both because there are only 2 - genders
@@gibba2495 No one can find a profound intellectual idea by Peterson that dismantled anyone.
@@psychcowboy1dude you really hate peterson. We get it. Calm down and stop watching his videos so you won't get triggered.
@@John_Ace04 I agree, you can't find a profound intellectual idea by Peterson that dismantled anyone.
I hate the woman's look of disbelief when Jordan is either agreeing with her or presenting simple obvious facts
Well, there is a bit of language barrier for her, but also I think it's obvious that she has been educated more through a certain amount of liberal ignorance of facts. This interview, though, is a great example of what Dr. Peterson has had to deal with every since he became famous for the pronoun crap that was forced on him during the arguments when the Ontario constitution was being changed to a more communist agenda. He has been constantly attacked about this egalitarian crap. These people in this discussion are just flabbergasted about what they have been led to believe about Dr. Peterson before he came to this. It's obvious that their egalitarian outlook is based on the equal outcome which to me is communism. None of these people understand the equal opportunity idea at all.
Her IQ looks to be about 50.,
JBP : "these are the facts". Woman : "Well, let's agree to disagree".
She isn't disagreeing with JBP. She's disagreeing with facts.
And you can tell, she disagrees with Facts quite often.
well.. at least she's a very pretty woman
@@ionescho surely not. Shes Annie Lööf or what ever herr name is, horrible person. Just saying.
she is both a woman and a liberal so yeah, logic is not her cup of tea. Emotional thinking is
@@kendiamond7852 JP had facts that she disagreed with? What facts?
If she'd had any sense she would have recognised that her intellect compared to Petersen's was that of a toddler to a nuclear physicist.
Not sure how Swedish men can stomach a politician like her. Poor souls.
I was waiting for her to say " No, we will force women to be engineers weather they want to be or not. We'll force them for equality. "
Yeah. She gave me the impression that she wants to control people.
And ve vill learn dem to avoid de glass roof!
By comparison, I was waiting for her to say "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts".
If she were self aware.
JP is not controversial, he is saying what has been normal for years.
Its the modern society that is stepping of the path and became controversial.
I agree... we have simply ceased to do what we "know" is right.
Overton window shifted left hard and they think the world is gonna accept it.
No.
the only thing i don't like about jordan peterson is that he makes me feel woefully inadequate and inarticulate.
he doesn't make you feel that way, you just feel that way. Much like his commen relating to provoking people versus people feeling provoked. ❤
@@justinwilbur4094 it depends on what the meaning of "makes" is.
!) to bring into existence.
2) to produce
3) to do, effect.
4) causation to form in the mind.
5) myriad of other meanings.
you need to relax.
@@justinwilbur4094 🎯
They are mind blown because they can't believe some1 actually has the evidence and done the research about his position on the matter, instead of saying "It's my truth, and if u don't agree ur fascist!"
I'm glad my mother wasn't a nutcase, her poor children.
AThis one is a wealthy nut case
Why is being different a bad thing ? My wife has strengths I don't have and I have strengths she doesn't have, together we are stronger and life is easier because of our differences.
Totally accurate. That is why male and female exist, Gods plan!!👍🙏🇺🇸
Bingo, spot on mate.
If the matriarchs are teaching boys to be less aggressive and non competitive. Then also teach the girls not to be so irrational and emote all their frustrations and axietties onto others. Stop the feelgoodism!
Damn. Great comment I've read!
You're misinterpreting. She just meant that both boys and girls should be taught the same things which are self-confidence and empathy. That's why she said boys should be taught to be more empathetic and girls need more self-confidence because only one thing is focused more on one gender.
For example, I was raised in a very traditional masculine way. So I find it hard to share my emotions(specially troubling one) with people, and this affects my mental health negatively. also, many women I know were not taught they could achieve whatever they like so they find it harder to gather the courage to take risks and have confidence.
@@navneetyadav7139 It's not the education systems job to teach self confidence. It's the parents job. Anything outside the three R's is social engineering. Social engineering from a government source is agenda driven. Any drive in the government is to control.
She clearly does not understand at all what Mr Peterson is saying, so she shows her ignorance by opening her mouth and offering her opinions.
No one can find a profound intellectual idea by Peterson that dismantled anyone.
@@psychcowboy1 Did you mean *didn't dismantle anyone*?
@@megauser8512 Correct in a video titled RUTHLESSLY DISMANTLEED, JP didn't dismantle anyone.
@@psychcowboy1 are you sure you're not the lady politician in that interview?
@@GrantMoss-fj6jf No one can find a place where Peterson dismantled anyone.
as a Swede, every time I watch this interview, secondhand emberassement tangles my whole lower body that I drop the urge to take a shit if I was in need to do it
Start giving women more "patriarchal" duties. Let them figure out the hard way.
they will pick and chose ,while the roof still leaks.
Yeah, force them to be roofers, bricklayers, plumbers and on and on
@@gibba2495 they don't need forced. But just imagine a male job boycott where all men banded together and stopped doing all the jobs almost only worked by males.
I think women are up to the challenge. Many women are by necessity the head of their households already.
No matter how many times I see this interview, I roll My eyes, as she listened to Nothing He carefully and succinctly explained.
This woman has had a defensive look in her eyes from the first minute. The panel was rigged even before the conversation started.
The lady is just not comprehending what Jordan Peterson is stating.
Jordan Peterson like most people from North America don't understand European or especially Scandinavian way of life
@tanisabenulic2861 Were you going to make a point about something, or was that broad sweeping, nonsensical generalization just to cope with hearing things you don't like?
Prolly bc she is a woman lol jk 😂
If this is the best Sweden has to offer my condolences.
he's just too smart for the room
No he is really not. But he thinke he is. He is smart but he is to cathegorical black and White thinking, at least when he express him self. He is not eighther the only thinker/proffesor. I love Vygotskji, Antonovsky and Cziczentmihaly who never had to talked (they are now dead) about what gender is best intended to do. Thats differs between gender and persons. Its not interesting to talk about what the bilology has in mind for US because its not the only thing that matters
I think if you have an salutogen view on the world and a strong KASAM you can do allmost what the hell you like even if you are an Women
@@KARIN1980ification And you need to go back to school.
@@omeddragon No one can find a place where Peterson outsmarted anyone.
@@KARIN1980ification he doesn't give an opinion. He gives data, scientific tests which have been made and also the outcomes of them. That's being smart, he doesn't try to impose his view of the world unlike others here. But like Charlie Kirk said once: in the end, your reality doesn't matter, because there's a general truth that is defined by facts and logical reasoning. If you can't handle it then keep your lies to yourself, because the entire woke ideology nowadays is based on delusion.
My wife is out in the garage right now rebuilding a dodge engine. I'm baking cookies for lunch. 😂
This woman is why we have DEI...an utter prescription for failure.
Yes
Libs n women find it hard to accept facts , biology , science ,over feelings
I've heard them say, "we prefer truth over facts." This says it all.. and it's what you said, in essence
@@vaekkriinhart4347 No one can find an intellectual idea by Peterson that dismantled anyone.
Wow, ive never heard that before
@@psychcowboy1You are just a simp.
Lib women
I’m a male engineer whom doesn’t deal well with comforting and dealing with others emotions and my wife works within the public helping others through difficult situations with compassion and understanding. This is my choice, and this is her choice. We both try to experience the others world and find that as a whole we are comfortable where we are not saying that we can’t succeed in those fields, but we choose our own fields out of our own comforts and abilities
As a man myself, born in the 1970's, if your a man, you have the ability to contribute to society and to become a great person. Don't let people tell you you are bad because you were born with a set of 🥜's. Your behavior and actions are what makes you good or bad. Make sure your actions benefit others as much if not more than yourself and you will do great things.
Any “debate” with Jordan Peterson:
Peterson: data and history say…
Other side: what I think and feel is…
Exactly man! Once you hear the word "feel" its over.
@@stephenflores5050 A good education is a good platform for my daughter to become a CEO, engineer, or nurse. JP: That is not what the evidence suggests. Huh? A good education isn't a good platform for higher level jobs? Feminist ruthlessly destroys JP world view!
Maybe a good platform but it doesn’t mean she’s going to take it, she may alternatively decide to earn her living on her back, parents can guide their children but they can’t make their choices.
Jesus. It was literally 30mins of Peterson just talking to a brick wall.
When stomped, a sudden personal attack: “Do you enjoy being provocative?”
I would. I believe that Peterson genuinely doesn't.
Typical leftwing behaviour.
The horror on that woman's face as JP speaks is priceless! 😂
Looks more like disbelief, she cant understand anything hes saying.
Ignorance my love may cause wrinkles
50% of every job type male, 50% female. Bricklayers and roofers too.
Don't forget sewer workers, drywall installers, concrete workers, Ditch diggers, most jobs that are outdoors, etc....AND!,,,I want to see a 50/50 division of men and women in prison, not 95%/5%
Ahahahahahahah!
Yup, garbage man too, and professional butchers working in slaughterhouses in the front end kill floor, 50% woman I'm sure are there too. 😂
I love Jordan Peterson. God Bless him standing up to the nonsense in this world!
Why does he have to do it in such an agressive way? The man always seems to be mad or pissed off. He should relax and smile.
@@MirwaCuutarila Because he deals with toxic and stupid and angry people all the time. He just wants what's best for people and he gets attacked and called a nazi for looking out for people and helping people.
C-3PO had an easier time explaining things to Ewoks
Here in Australia I'm laughing my ass off.
Great comment.
@@shaundouglas2057 😁😂that’s awesome!!! Cheers!!
I work in the film industry. I see the same thing. Women complain about not being represented in action films, but when you look at the data, you see that most women are not interested in action films. They like romantic films. Then male filmmakers are being criticised for not cadering to the female audience, the thing that they don't want to see. The issue is not opportunity, but preference.
The reason why a film like Madame Web flops, is that it is a film genre mostly watched by men, but a film marketed to have a feminist agenda, so neither men nor women show up to watch it. Bit the narrative is that men don't want to support strong independent women. Well sorry, but women don't want to support strong independent women. That's not my opinion. That's what the data says.
The thing that caught my attention was when she said we don't have as many women Entrepreneurs.
I kind of wish someone would point out that many, if not most entrepreneurs fail, and in doing so can lose EVERYTHING they have invested.
Does she want more women to risk (and should they fail, lose) everything? If not, she is not for equality, she is for special privilege.
Did anyone notice how Jordan Peterson's arguments are all factual and scientific while the two woke intellectuals' arguments are all anecdotal??
Did JP say something intelligent in this video that outsmarted anyone? Timestamp and quote?
@lordphontaroy3592 You have expressed your feelings that 'none of these people could grasp it'. I am a fact person. Timestamp and quote where 'none of these people understanding the difference between equality of outcome and equality of opportunity.'
Did you notice the straw man goal post switch by JP when the guy said 'So you are saying all along everyone had the same opportunity'?
Yes snecdotal and mostly emotional argument, it is whats Jordan calls very high in agreeablness
@lordphontaroy3592 True, JP didn't outsmart anyone.
@@tomasrestrepoa.1247 JP is very high in arrogance, on the Big 6.
Jordan Peterson for President, he is so smart all the guest were learning from him lol😂😊😅😮😢🎉❤
I don’t know why it’s so hard for these people to imagine the opposite. In a poor country, women DON’T get a choice in their jobs: they farm, they fix things, they are soldiers - because they HAVE to, not because they want to.
When absolute privation is out of the way, we get to see their true inner desires.
True that!
in poverty, everybody is just in survival mode. men and women.
You can see the desperation the eyes of this panel of people showing that they think they must discredit Jordan any way they can. And the terror when he proves them wrong with facts and data. Simply priceless.
JP had facts and data? Where?
1. Equality of opportunity is good and equality of outcome is bad = duh, any 8th grader can figure that out.
2. Egalitarian measures maximize different job choices by men and women = 100% false for the US.
3. There is only two ways males and females differ; culture and biology. = funny, that is as insightful as saying cats and dogs only differ in how they look and how they act. Figure that out on your own Jordan?
4. The magizine Science confirmed this? I doubt it.
5. Men like things and women like people issues. = you needed psychology to figure that out JP? Who on earth needs JP to explain the difference between males and females? Not me.
6. Egalitarianism was driven by toilets, tampons and the pill? = Based, why aren't you laughing your ass off?
7. I am a specialist in gender issues, I studied it for 20 years = so JP is a gender studies major?
8. A good education is a good platform for my daughter to become a CEO, engineer, or nurse. JP: That is not what the evidence suggests. Huh? A good education isn't a good platform for higher level jobs? Feminist ruthlessly destroys JP world view!
I live in Sweden and from this conversation i agreed 80% of the times with Jordan.
Peterson is absolutely correct. I did very well in school my test scores were always excellent. It was never a matter of pride to me. What made me proud, what I enjoyed was volunteering in the special needs classroom. I had lots of jobs before I married and had children. None of them could ever compare to being a mom and caring for my family. Home and family have always been my dream and my goal. I think my success in raising intelligent, thoughtful productive children into adulthood, supporting and caring for my husband has been rewarding in ways that a career never could be.
I love this! Great job!
For you. And that's great. Everyone is different. Caring for your husband may have been less rewarding with a different husband.
That woman lives in a delusional university world, not the real world; feelings don't work in the real world.
"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
I had someone once try to insult me by comparing how I presented a topic to Jordan Peterson. I responded kindly “not sure I am that smart, thank you for the compliment.”
"You want the best for boys more than women"
Here's the thing. Not everything is about women. It's OK to help boys.
Everyone else only talks about women women women, which obviously isn't enough. Needs to be 100%, not 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999%.
The better the boys are doing, the better the girls are doing as a result and vice versa, making the world a better place for humans in general regardless of their gender/sex - isn't it what we all actually do strive for? Why isn't it obvious to all those people just dividing us into (supposedly mutually hostile) groups?
Most people on the panel can't comprehend what Jordan is trying to communicate. It must be frustrating to have a discussion with someone so intelligent lol
The woman looking at Jordan is in love. I think that’s the first time she has heard a man speak!
😂😂good one👍🏾
Equality of outcome cannot possibly promote equality of opportunity.
What a smart guy. Way to go Mr. Peterson, please don't stop whatever you are doing.
that woman is just waffling nonsense
Throughout the whole interview, her facial expressions are priceless.
She's pissed, annoyed and seems to overall feel powerless about all of it.
That woman is SEETHING HARD.
When she continues to argue, she embarrasses herself.🤯
Love his articulate expression of facts.