Collecting weapons and making dark art isn’t that weird. I have a collection of weapons as well, but I agree, if you have weapons and “joke” about killing your ex you should be looked at.
I think he was gay and Rebecca thought he was her boyfriend and he thought she was going to tell everyone he was gay. He pushed her away and spread rumours etc about her so no one would believe her if she said he was gay (which she hadn't even figured out). He never wanted to date her.
talaiya true, before I saw a therapist I was throwing up at school so much people where speculating I had bulimia or was pregnant. Not daily, obv. But at least once a week. So, bc of malnutrition I had to see a therapist and am better bc of it :)
@@raebae5348 i didn’t say all of their friends were, i was just saying that they weren’t all *his* friends and they shared friends between the two, hence they had mutual friends
Abra AWE-bruh Singleton to think that if someone had questioned his actions, and if people did take him seriously, Rebecca may have still been here today, absolutely heartbreaking :(
Even when he changed his profile picture to the woods like that's an automatic red flag!! I'm a tru crime fan junkie so my mind would've immediately picked up on that and said your not going anywhere with this sicko!!
@Carla Bette I sometimes make dark jokes and stuff like that, but I'd NEVER even consider actually murdering someone, like didn't he know all the extreme punishments like jail, or did he not care, If I was him i wouldn't have taken the risk
I think that unexplained illness was probably a failed attempt to kill her. This is so sad. The only think I can think is that he spent the weekend with her and her family and became jealous of how close they were. Not sure how a person can love someone one minute and the next hate them... his friends (that were supposedly her friends too) could have saved her life if they had just told the police or her mother. Poor girl!
but as a mother, why would you allow your daughter to meet up with someone who bullied your daughter for months and Rebecca even expressed that she felt like he wanted to kill her!
Dorothy Aboagye I have a feeling she kept that from her parents. People often hide the worst of their abusers from their loved ones because they don’t want their abusers judged in case they change :/
And Rebecca had another boyfriend! As a mom, I would have told my daughter, that you can' t play with another persons feelings. If you have a boyfriend, you don't go to mee another boy to get together with him. No! And no, absolutely no meeting with a boy who had misstreated and bullied my daughter before. Not atleast alone. She was still a child who needed protection.
Right?! Her parents knew that he dumped her & bullied. I would never teach my daughter to go back to an asshole. Heck, him becoming friends with her again, I wouldn't have allowed it.
She'd be to weak to fight, too out of breath to scream, and too tired to run. Also, I said something, as if I was the mom, who was searching along with the aunt. I'd say 'Hey sis, get over here. Do you know where this forest clearing is?' that'd be my immediate thought.
I think He got jealous That she actually had a Beautiful family he maybe didn’t have that bond with his own Family, min 2:38-2:41 he told her parents that was the best weekend of his life
people like josh are the worst. he deserves much more than just 14 years. rebecca was such a sweet girl and had so much to live for. truly heartbreaking
Raise your hand if you think the sicko might have actually tried to poison her WHEN SHE HAD THE MYSTERIOUS ILLNESS!?!?! Aside from that I just wanna know why the hell he snapped?? Like how does someone go from supposedly being in love to hating someone THAT MUCH??? although how the hell she could just forgive him for the all the horrid shit he said about her I DONT KNOW.
Emily Jayne ues you don't become mentally ill over night, however, he was probably born with this mental illness or already had it before he met her. no sane person can remorselessly murder someone who they 'loved'. i just don't see any other explanation, i personally believe he was extremely mentally ill.
Ikrrr Like imagine ur friend bringing up killing somebody every fucking saturday during breakfast like “pmg hahahah lmma kill him” thats not even funny
Exactly! A once off angry remark after a breakup I could see as just something to blow off. But a consistent remark followed by different ways, seemingly like it's all he can think about is definitely something to report
ur comment's at 69 likes... I don't and do want to like it... also, that is very interesting that you attended the school. I might look for the book and read it myself.
I went to Archbishop McGrath too. However, I left about 10 years prior to this happening & it was before the school was bulldozed & moved to a new location. Makes me feel old. Haha.
I don’t think his friends are totally innocent here. If one of my friends REPEATEDLY talked about killing someone, I’d tell a parent or a relative or at least do something. I don’t care how close they were. It’s not a joke anymore if it becomes an obsession
Yasmin Paul everyone does that. That’s today’s humor and it’s widely accepted and unfortunately not taken seriously. If you talk every day about killing someone else it isn’t the same story.
I guess I'm a psycho, I do it with my friends to the people who did horrible things. But we all told each other we would never truly do these things it was just out of anger.
Same here. If I was her I would’ve sat Rebecca down and discussed how he had been treating her and tell her she probably shouldn’t meet him. Also talk about her current boyfriend who I assume was nice but who knows.. 🤷🏻♀️
Unpopular opinion: The mom could've done a lot more as a *parent* to teach her daughter how to spot warning signs in a manipulative and abusive partner. That wasn't just some normal teenage boy behavior. She told her mother the kinds of rumors he spread about her and saw how he hurt her... and yet her mother happily giggled with Rebecca about possibly getting back together with him? Teach your daughter self respect and you could've saved your daughters life.
Kat Rabbit I wouldn’t say the mom could’ve saved her really.... you really can’t escape the inevitable, once you cross paths with a psycho it’s hard to escape. His plan was to kill her, one way or another he would have killed her.sad.
@@katrabbit that's just how teenagers are. I'm not defending that behavior or anything, but I'm in high school and that's how immature students act. They're your friend one day, they talk bad about you the next and want to be best friends right after. And he also adjusted his behavior before he texted her to meet up. He was nice to her again, they were friends again. You don't think anything of it, it's normal behavior for teenagers. Again, I'm not saying that's okay, but you really can't blame her. She mostly saw good in him.
@@faze194 It's not normal. Just please know that right now, the things he did were not normal high school boy things to do. And to accept that thinking is exactly what continues the horrible behavior. If you know boys at your school right now who treat girls like this I urge you to start recording it and take it to a higher authority immediately as that is harassment among other things that should not be tolerated or allowed to just diminish on its own. I understand where you're coming from. Because as a teenager you don't know any better unless you've seen true horrible people and been taught at a young age that you can't trust everyone. Unfortunately that's exactly what I mean by the fact her mother should have stepped in, she should have been able to recognize the warning signs and gotten that young man some help or kept her daughter away from him for good at the least. A trouble loving, manipulative teenage boy turns into an abusive, angry adult man if he doesn't get checked real quick.
Crazy I just read this. I've said this to my friends lol...all my exes that ever treated me horribly their names started with J...two were John/Jon, jason,Jeremy...Crazy
god this is so sad to think about. for all cases involving being murdered/hurt/kidnapped by a significant other or ex. honestly though a lot of times people don’t see the red flags as red flags at first. you just get so blinded by love.
i just want to know why he hated her soooo much. how can he change that quickly?? also what if that weird sickness was a failed attempt at him poisoning her?? crazyyy
Yeah it's really strange that he started hating her so intensely without any reason and out of the blue. I really want to know what made him hate her so much.
I feel so horrible for Rebecca and her family, she cared so much for him and he murdered her. Shame on all his friends for not calling him out on all his fantasies of killing Rebecca, they might have been able to save her life if they had spoken up.
For me I think he was jealous of her life. That’s the explanation of why he hated her after spending that weekend with the family. He said the best time of his life but it wasn’t his life but hers he was enjoying. Also come on! He drew those type of drawings, collected knives and guns, he had threaten her before, talked often about killing her. What kind of people are this that find it normal that your friend talks about killing like it was describing what he ate for breakfast!
Doing dark drawings and collecting weapons inst uncommon. Many ppl do those things but never use it/do anything about it. It's also hard to define if someone is gonna do something bad...you just have to trust ig
Sometimes it’s sad. My ex boyfriend had a really united family and I felt great when I was with them, but when I came home and noticed I didn’t have that I would get sad. I understand Josh’s feeling regarding that, but also I never thought of killing my ex bf, that’s a bit too extreme.
When I heard her saying that he could be out in 14 years I was shocked. I hope that as well, he is a murderer and should be in prison for the rest of his life.
People suspect he may have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. So it could be that he wanted to break up with her (probably because he likes to have power over other people) so to see her sad and to ruin her life, but when she recollected herself and was relatively happy even without him, he became furious.
He’s a narcissist who needed to feel like he had control. She made him happy, so he broke up with her to have the higher ground and when she was finally happy that was when he needed to wipe her out. I’m not sure why he singled her out, he probably saw her a weaker and it’s heartbreaking. He ended the life of a friend, daughter, sister and lover because he couldn’t handle not having control of her. Also, I think he poisoned her and that’s why he didn’t care when she was in the hospital.
hauha so you’re telling me a 15 and 16 year old were married? My comment was based on the information given in the video. I don’t research all cases I watch videos on, that was just my two cents on what was presented to me. Sorry if I offended you in anyways but why wasn’t that included in her video? Also the victims name was Rebecca, the killers name was Joshua, and the worried mother would be Sonia, maybe you’re talking about a different case.
It really annoys me EVERYTIME someone says “his friends didn’t think anything of it he was a nice kid” if my friend said to me they wanted to kill someone no matter how nice the person is something would be said.
yeah (i know this is an old comment) but i’d like to add it’d be a LOT different if he said it once because sometimes we do say things that we don’t actually mean when we’re angry (but does anyone know the actual reason WHY josh was so angry?? it seemed strange to me). but as soon as the second time he said it came around, i feel like that’s when you should take action and report it, whether that’s to proper authorities or to the person they’re threatening/their family. this case makes me sad cause it could’ve been stopped and looked into :(
So heart breaking :( imagine going out and meeting a boy being excited thinking you’re getting back together ... :( doesn’t bear thinking about. RIP Rebecca.
It’s eerie that he changed his profile picture to an image of where he was going to kill Rebecca (I’m guessing, I’m only 10 minutes in) but how could Rebecca’s mother not be slightly worried when the image was a woods and her daughter was meeting him the next day. However Sonia still sounds like a very caring parent whilst on the phone to her daughter, making sure it is josh that she saw
Considering he seemed to change his profile pics to important places, I would be terrified that it was a picture of the woods when he was meant to be meeting her at the park. Also that he kept telling her to walk around different places than planned to find him. I would have come picked my child up at that point, also considering this guy hated and bullied her not that long ago, its a big no. Not meant in any disrespect to the mum but I've had experience of abuse and this is screaming massive red flags to me
I don't think she was looking too deep into it. She my have been overlooking her suspension because her daughter was so happy. It's sad how things start coming together when the outcome is tragic.
If one of my friends started obsessively talking about how they wanted to kill someone I would be very concerned, not sat there laughing about it over a fry up
But are you a child who is by now used to that kind of dark "humour" from your friend. It's easy to see these things with hindsight and with our own perspective as adults. These were kids trying to make a stupid joke to downplay how dark their other friend was, they can't really be to blame
@@etgha there's a difference between being used to dark humor and someone out of the blue becoming obsessed with the idea of killing one particular person. that's an obvious red flag dark humor or no dark humor.
@@skittlekitty7264 I mean sure it's obvious to us, these are kids. I ain't trying to say it's funny or really any sort of "humour" but around this age is when you get edgy kids trying to fit in. It's reckless but I don't think they remotely expected their friend to actually commit murder, nor do I think they fully realised the gravity of the situation. They shouldn't be put in jail for it or whatever, like a lot of people are saying (ik that ain't what this comment is saying)
R a c h e l i actually think the opposite. Most of them turn a deaf ear to stuff like this bc it makes them so uncomfortable they don’t even know what to do.
@@rach2708 I know, but hearing 'I wanna die' 'I'm gonna kill someone' over and over again often means that if they are being serious, nobody does take them seriously, until it actually happens. Teenagers can be very responsible and can also be great people.
Hi I was wondering if you would cover a case I've been thinking a lot about recently. It's extremely close to home and makes me feel so sick but basically a family I knew was murdered when I was in primary school. They lived on my street literally about 10 houses down from me . One of the boys (Abbas) was in my class and they were killed by their own father as he believed their mum was having an affair. He planned it all. Everyone thought they would be going on a family holiday together,including the kids and the Mum but it turns out he booked a one way ticket elsewhere for himself. He murdered them all,tied the mum up and forced her to watch him murder their children before killing her,then fled the country. It took a whole month for the bodies to be discovered because the neighbors complained about a horrible smell and when they opened the letter box it stunk and there was flies everywhere. I don't think any of us understood when we was that little what actually happened to our classmate,it was all over the news but it just didn't register. we went back after the school holidays (when the murder was carried out) we had an assembly and planted 3 trees on the field (1 for each of the children) and we wrote messages in two big books to give to the Grandparents. Abbas' best friend never came back to school either bc it was too much for him so his family moved away. None of us ever spoke of it again bc we were so young we just didn't understand and now I'm older I've looked into it and it's broken my heart so much learning all the details of how they died.
The Prescotts That’s so horrible...how could anyone even THINK about doing that. I’m sorry you lost your friend, too, I can’t even begin to imagine how hard it is ❤️
The presscots. I'm sorry you lost a friend. Don't worry he's in paradise. May I ask a question why did he kill the kids. They did nothing wrong.was not killing the wife enough for him.
RIP Rebecca, so sad that you had such a big heart and the one you loved took your life. Hope you find someone better in heaven. Fly high Gorgeous girl 😭💔
um, if someone I knew had "dark" interests and a hobby of collecting weapons and he kept talking about how he wants to kill his ex-gf over and over and over again I wouldn't be like "oh he's just joking" there was a bajillion red flags on this guy and the friends did nothing they failed both the murderer and the victim smh
my mom has dark interests and dark humor, sometimes its awkward, but shes litterally to gental to even raise her voice or curse. very christian woman, but has been trained and took classes on guns and swords and knife combat. ever since she was a teenager shes loved the midevil fighting stuff and war stories. she was diagnosed with depression at a young age and so shell nvr be allowed to join the army but its her dream.
You do realise that criminology barely touches on murder. I study criminology and it's about law and sociology. Not some glamorised idea of what you think crime is.
Patience Rachel oh no I know! I just find these videos so interesting and I’ve always been fascinated by the criminals and what makes them think the way they do x
This freaks me out a bit, since the first half of the video explaining backstory is kind of what was happening to me a year ago almost exactly.. My ex was obsessed with me, hated me when he had me but was mad when I wasnt his. And my ex sounds like Josh in his personality too... freaky shit
I don’t understand how someone can be all in love with someone and then switch on a dime to hating them so much they could kill.... it’s terrifying. The whole time she was loved and trusted this boy... it’s just downright evil
No, despite how angry you are at his friends you really can't blame them. It's easy in hindsight to say they should have known "how dare they condone that!" but when you really think about it, think of the amount of empty threats or too far jokes that are made amongst a group of friends. It's dark, but more often than not the types of conversations they were having were probably just dark jokes to his unsuspecting friend group
@@EmilyHernandez-jt4cs Don't fully remember this case cause it's been awhile, but I never said it was funny and I stand by what I said about hindsight and how easy it can be to ignore what looks like obvious warning signs to an outsider's perspective
The friends should have been charged with something as well. They all DISCUSSED her being murdered and didnt tell anyone or even rebecca herself. Josh carried it out but many people knew about the possibility of it for a while. Just sad
But if they even thought for a moment it was serious I'm sure they would of told her. But they thought it was a joke because well, they all thought they knew him. They can't be blamed because they genuinely thought he wasn't being serious.
this is sad. She loved that boy, so happy wanting to see him- and that time he just wanted her dead. It's very sick, I'm so depressed now :< poor Rebecca. I hope in her last moments that she didn't feel pain- :(
Honestly I would also blame his friends, maybe I don't get it, but how could they even joke about killing someone? You never know what's in the other person's mind, even if it's your close friend and if someone I know, talked so much about killing a specific person, I know for sure it would raise a red flag for me. Instead of making dumb bets, they should've warned Rebecca or tried to prevent this meeting.. I don't know, anything, but for sure they didn't act right in this whole situation
They definitely should have seen the red flags in this situation. I don't see how this could become a running "joke". After hearing this for the second time, the average normal person would at least question what the hell is wrong with this person.
I can see how you think that. But in my friend group we do joke about killing. But never actually make a running joke about one person. Or make a bet about it
I feel like if you make one joke, it's nothing to be worried about, even if it is pretty distasteful. But the way he couldn't drop the joke... that should have been a major indicator.
did any of your research say why he actually ended up hating her? it seems like they were happy one day and the next he broke up with her and decided that he wanted to kill her. it's like there was no motive. it's so sad.
Its mental illness. I keep seeing comments saying pretty much the same thing as you. I was in her shoes with my first boyfriend, literally everything she went through I did too, up until being a victim of murder. The person who breaks it off and then begins to be malicious and hateful is mentally Ill. It's not a response a healthy person has, and it's sad more people dont know this. This is VERY common in abuse, and I can testify to this. It happened to me as a 13-15 year old living on a completely separate continent than Rebecca did.
It's so creepy when you remember that he had changed his profile picture to a picture of woods. Rebecca and her mom both saw where she would be killed before it even happened.
How the hell do you go from having the best weekend of your life and being head over heels for someone to hating them and planning ways to kill them? He likely had antisocial personality disorder, he sounds like a lunatic.
I think he was a narcissist who didn’t like that someone could affect him in that way so he had to flip the situation on her to have the higher ground. Everything he did was to have a sort of control over her and when she was finally putting her life back together that’s when he couldn’t handle it
Such an odd, heartbreaking case. Can you imagine how confused Rebecca was when Josh hit her the first time or pushed her or whatever he did first. Honestly so heartbreaking. And the sudden flip of his personality kinda makes you wonder if he ever liked her or if something happened to him that night? Either way, feel so sorry for her family, imagine your daughter being murdered by someone you welcomed into you own home 😕
Ah yes, my girlfriends and I always joke and mention how we're going to kill our exes casually over pancakes in explicit details and in numerous plans.
Anyone else thinking maybe the reason she was ill and in hospital was because of an attempt from Josh?? Maybe with the nightshade/coca cola mixture. Just a thought.
@@nathilism Its cause they probably never found anything on her system, which makes sense but there are poisons and substances that are very different or cannot be found after ingestion.
She's so adorable, this is so sad. I can't figure out why he went from getting along with her so well and then hating her and wanting to kill her the next second? Like what?
My thoughts exactly, but later on when she told more about him I think he was just sick minded individual, he saw how much she loves him, and maybe that he could love her too, but it was just too much for his twisted dark mind-as some say the more they fight the more they love, but its still sick and some go over board! Hes a monster no doubt! She was mirroring him what he could never be-a warm hearted soul and that made him engry in my opinion!
Another case I saw on Darkest Taboos and I really don’t understand the friendship dynamics, like how could you have a joke about killing someone? Even if my friend had some dark humour I’d still be rather concerned... not just make a bet about it. Poor girl
Olivia Audley so true. My ex best friend used to do the same shit growing up - threaten me with a butcher knife until she knew I was genuinely scared, then she would laugh and be like “I’m just kidding, God”. Super sketchy.
MissCherielicious yeah the sad thing is if they actually told someone that he was saying all these threats and vile things, Rebecca probably would be alive today
I didn’t actually know her myself but my friends mother did and she said she was a very nice and bright young woman..... I feel absolutely terrible......
This literally happened 10 minutes car ride from me, everyone still talks about it now. He recently admitted to everything he done, it’s so sad, scary and close to home 💔
Did he ever say why? Like why he hated her so much? He has to have a reason. It might not be a good one but there has to be some reason he hated her enough to kill her.
If anyone wants to find out some more information on this case there is a show on Netflix called ‘Britain’s darkest taboos ‘ that did an episode on this case. It’s really interesting and there’s and interview with her mum talking about it. Love the video btw xxxx
Sophia Fayrweather I don’t think so because I’m not sure if anyone ever found out. There wasn’t really a reasonable reason for him hating her that much. I might be wrong though, it’s been a while since I watched it.
Been binge watching all your other videos (true crime ones) for the last hour and a half but I’ve watched all the ones since like last September so it was vv hard to find one I hadn’t watched. Also I love you and your videos so much and when you dmed me the other month I was sat on my bed crying because I was so surprised and happy.
As a mom with teenagers I appreciate her covering cases like this so much. They teach me to be on guard about so many important things. Like if my daughter’s ex spreads horrible rumors and then acts like he wants to get back with her - no, no way. He’s toxic and gets no second chance.
Theory : if you remember in the video Eleanor said that Rebecca fell sick and the doctors didn't know the sickness, what if Josh poisoned Rebecca's food or something and failed and instead of killing her he just made her sick ? . Idk
@@salwa5394 I thought that too but if they didn't suspect that it was poison they probably wouldn't have checked. But still it seems like such an obvious thing to recognize. Idk even doctors make mistakes and I'm not a professional so idk what to think😕
Chloe Gill omg no. He was talking about murdering her way before his friend told him about the brekfast. He would did it any way. It was not the reason
Ariana loovver1996 he was thinking about killing her but the breakfast is what convinced him. Before killing her he told his friend that he'd owe him that breakfast soon and asked for it after he killed her.
Chloe Gill okay I know all the information on the case but Im unsure if u understand what Im saying. The brekfast may be what made him kill her that day but as you said, he was thinking about it for a long time so its not MAIN reason. And Im asking why he killed her, why he wanted her dead
A report I read: "They gave different reasons for the breakup. Davies claimed Rebecca tried to trick him into getting her pregnant, which is dismissed as nonsense by those who knew her. She said it was because he refused to wear condoms." Basically the reason for the breakup is just he said, she said as of now. Only 2 people know the reason and 1 of them is sadly silenced forever while the other is untrustworthy in his word.
The fact that he was so Convincing made me wonder had he done something sinister like this before? Y would someone bet on someone else’s death? Josh had homemade poison in his home. Were they intended for her? Also the fact that he had blamed his best friend for it ended it. I also don’t believe his sad and poorly stringed together story one bit.
he is probably a narcissist or has some other serious and untreated personality disorder. narcissists/ sociopaths/etc. can be EXTREMELY manipulative and convincing. and appear completely normal at first and sometimes can seem normal for a long time. he may not have necessarily ever done something like this before.
I WAS LITERALLY GOING TO REQUEST THIS CASE! It's probably the one that's stayed with me for the longest after hearing about it, and it's a shame it's not so well known. I'd also like to request the murder of Gary Newlove. He was a dad murdered by youths in my town of Warrington. It's another one that's incredibly heartbreaking and not your typical murder case. Love you 💙💚💛💜❤
I'm still wondering WHY he suddenly got this immense hate for her? Maybe he had some mental illness cause that sounds so weird, suddenly wanting to kill someone so badly. So sad to hear this, poor Rebecca. Great video like always!
Definitely a mental illness. I went through this exact situation, literally everything even trying to get back together with the abuser. Luckily I made it out alive, but yes the behavior and switch in the way he began treating her stems from some sort of mental illness. I know for a fact my abuser was diagnosed with multiple things while we were together and even more afterwards. It's sad to me that more people dont know this, it's very common in abuse.
oh shoot whenever i listen to your stories i stare at your face or your makeup stuff in the background to really REALLY focus bc i cant catch english that much if i lose even 5% of focus, then rebecca's closed up face appeared around the minute 13 i was so surprised my legs got weak lmaoo btw im binge watching/listening to all of your true crimes story
I'm guessing he was either jealous of her and her nice life, OR she rejected his advances/ he wanted sex but she said no and so he broke up with her which caused the hatred
@@assignedcatatbirth 100% not cos they didn't have sex. He was probably mentally unstable n just snapped remember he was obsessed with dark stuff and knives
Yeah he had an evil&sick mind indeed! Its so disturbing as it seems they had an amazing weekend, best he ever had and then he brakes up with her, few hours later!? Mental case no doubt!
@@andrewrafferty9991 I'm not going to disagree with you outright, but have to say that I like dark stuff, and swords, and I would never even dream of doing something like this.
*collected weapons, made dark art, constantly joked about killing his ex-girlfriend*
“He seemed like a good kid.”
Yeah totally 😨.
That’s literally my friends describing
me
I’m just into dark stuff but I’d never like actually hurt someone, mostly because of guilt.
Actually what I do but also what my ex did who attempted to kill me.
@@tabitha1797 same
Collecting weapons and making dark art isn’t that weird. I have a collection of weapons as well, but I agree, if you have weapons and “joke” about killing your ex you should be looked at.
Josh: I could literally kill her in so many ways
Josh's friends: oh haha that's our Josh!
What passes for normal these days can be quite strange
My best friend laughs and says “Oh, he’s just being Joshy.”😂
i feel so bad for laughing :(
ikr???? No wonder we all have social anxiety. I feel like a terrible person for laughing.
Stupid Friends...
“So Rebecca has a boyfriend”
Me: **knows immediately**
BF sus
my thought process :D
I think he was gay and Rebecca thought he was her boyfriend and he thought she was going to tell everyone he was gay. He pushed her away and spread rumours etc about her so no one would believe her if she said he was gay (which she hadn't even figured out). He never wanted to date her.
@@Odette321 why do you think that?
Why. Would. They. Put. A. Bet. On her life. That is so sad.
Kai Love i. don’t. know. why are. we. talking. like this
Ikr like that's so dumb!
I. K. R. This. Is. So. Dumb. Why. Would. Someone. Do. This.
they didnt kbnow they thought it was a joke D.U.H.
@@prinregan1238 a joke? Wth? Do this shit in a slavic country and you'll end up thrown over into a germanic whities country lmao
I believe that Josh poisoned Rebecca. That is why she got so sick and doctors couldn’t explain why.
strawberry jam yeah but maybe not
strxwberri•jxm - it was his own poison
I think it may be mental cause she was scared/anxious that she was gonna get killed and with having anxiety sickness comes with it
I agree with you
talaiya true, before I saw a therapist I was throwing up at school so much people where speculating I had bulimia or was pregnant.
Not daily, obv. But at least once a week. So, bc of malnutrition I had to see a therapist and am better bc of it :)
They were never her friends if they made a "running joke" about her being killed.
They were his friends
@@bungawowzers they had mutual friends so her friends were his friends and vice versa
@@oniichxnn that doesn't mean that all of their friends were mutual
@@raebae5348 i didn’t say all of their friends were, i was just saying that they weren’t all *his* friends and they shared friends between the two, hence they had mutual friends
Not all friendships are like yours
It's devastating that nobody took Josh seriously...
Abra AWE-bruh Singleton to think that if someone had questioned his actions, and if people did take him seriously, Rebecca may have still been here today, absolutely heartbreaking :(
I’ve seen you on all of the crime videos I’ve been watching!😂
Even when he changed his profile picture to the woods like that's an automatic red flag!! I'm a tru crime fan junkie so my mind would've immediately picked up on that and said your not going anywhere with this sicko!!
NEWSFLASH: Normal teenagers DON'T talk about the ways to kill someone they don't like.
Rational Guardian for real 😭
My friend does that in a jokingly way
Honestly, I did that all the time. In very precise detail. Looking back, I was a very hateful person as a teenager.
@Carla Bette I sometimes make dark jokes and stuff like that, but I'd NEVER even consider actually murdering someone, like didn't he know all the extreme punishments like jail, or did he not care, If I was him i wouldn't have taken the risk
hUh?! i nEVeR kNeW????!!!
Who else started a binge after watching the hello kitty case? (Or any case)
me-
Me lol xD
That’s exactly it - Hello Kitty to start and now I’m 6 in.
Same
Furry friends b me
I think that unexplained illness was probably a failed attempt to kill her. This is so sad. The only think I can think is that he spent the weekend with her and her family and became jealous of how close they were. Not sure how a person can love someone one minute and the next hate them... his friends (that were supposedly her friends too) could have saved her life if they had just told the police or her mother. Poor girl!
Ashley Williams literally was j about to say the same thing !
Ashley Williams Josh was probably a psychopath. They can be extremely manipulative😰
He drugged her
F
First sentence is a whole new Shane Dawson conspiracy video.
but as a mother, why would you allow your daughter to meet up with someone who bullied your daughter for months and Rebecca even expressed that she felt like he wanted to kill her!
Dorothy Aboagye I have a feeling she kept that from her parents. People often hide the worst of their abusers from their loved ones because they don’t want their abusers judged in case they change :/
@@capturedgift ahh you're right. That would make sense then.
And Rebecca had another boyfriend! As a mom, I would have told my daughter, that you can' t play with another persons feelings. If you have a boyfriend, you don't go to mee another boy to get together with him. No! And no, absolutely no meeting with a boy who had misstreated and bullied my daughter before. Not atleast alone. She was still a child who needed protection.
@@capturedgift she did not. Her mother knew. She had told her.
Right?! Her parents knew that he dumped her & bullied. I would never teach my daughter to go back to an asshole. Heck, him becoming friends with her again, I wouldn't have allowed it.
He made her walk so much so when he tried to kill her in the woods she wood be tired and wouldn't be able to run
Lovely Nieve2 i never thought about that… poor girl may she rest in peace🙏🏼
@hauha loooooool
She'd be to weak to fight, too out of breath to scream, and too tired to run. Also, I said something, as if I was the mom, who was searching along with the aunt. I'd say 'Hey sis, get over here. Do you know where this forest clearing is?' that'd be my immediate thought.
I was thinking he was looking for a good spot and he kept changing his mind where to do it. But I guess that doesn’t explain the profile picture
My thoughts exactly.
1 minute in and I already knew josh killed her
AyyItsLola it is a true story
AyyItsLola google it
@@ayyitslola8322 oh honey 🤡
Ikr?
I knew cuz I looked at the comments
i just don't understand how he dumped her and then randomly started hating her??? like wtf
Right??
I'm pretty sure he probably got jealous of her and jealousy turns into hate..
I feel on top of him being a psychopath maybe she denied him sex or something & he handled it like a punk ass...just a guess
bran bpd
I think He got jealous That she actually had a Beautiful family he maybe didn’t have that bond with his own Family, min 2:38-2:41 he told her parents that was the best weekend of his life
people like josh are the worst. he deserves much more than just 14 years. rebecca was such a sweet girl and had so much to live for. truly heartbreaking
He was sentenced to 40 not 14, but he still deserves way more time ! He’s disgusting
Naeemah Badia Agreed! It just sucks so much that he was given 40 years but still got out after only serving 14! Where is the justice? 😭🙄
amu j if it was a black person it will be more 😐😕
No u,u clown AHAHAHA ifkr! the "justice system" is messed up! racism everywhere
amu j yep 💀 it’s actually disgusting ngl
Raise your hand if you think the sicko might have actually tried to poison her WHEN SHE HAD THE MYSTERIOUS ILLNESS!?!?!
Aside from that I just wanna know why the hell he snapped?? Like how does someone go from supposedly being in love to hating someone THAT MUCH???
although how the hell she could just forgive him for the all the horrid shit he said about her I DONT KNOW.
IKR!!!! its like he gave her a drink of the poison of what he made that's why he didn't care/never contacted her when she was in hospital🤔
I guess he was never really in love
Emily Jayne ues you don't become mentally ill over night, however, he was probably born with this mental illness or already had it before he met her. no sane person can remorselessly murder someone who they 'loved'. i just don't see any other explanation, i personally believe he was extremely mentally ill.
Maybe childhood trauma was repressed until he was 14/15.
I didn't even think about that🤯
Living for the giant bottle of micellar water in the background lol
Haha I was thinking that same thing.
Porcelain hey girl love your vids❤️😘
Micellar water is honestly the best thing ever 😩 I love it lol
Porcelain oml i cant stop looking at it now
Porcelain you watch true crime videos too!! Why are you the most relatable youtuber!
he gave all the signs of his intentions yet they got ignored, omg
Exactly! Like he threatened someone with a knife thinking it’s funny.. a huge red flag
yes like wtf his friends are equally crazy- this is so sad 😭
I'm sorry, but if my friend was ''Joking'' about killing someone 24/7 I would tell someone...
Same.I would be concerned if it happened more than four times.
Ikrrr
Like imagine ur friend bringing up killing somebody every fucking saturday during breakfast like “pmg hahahah lmma kill him” thats not even funny
I make jokes up to my friend saying I would kill a boy that we all hate but the truth is I wouldnt
@@jobrown1040 I think we all do, but when it is constant and they seems serious it gets a little bit concerning
Exactly! A once off angry remark after a breakup I could see as just something to blow off. But a consistent remark followed by different ways, seemingly like it's all he can think about is definitely something to report
Heartbreaking. I attended the same school as both Rebecca and Josh.
Sonia has a book called “Bye Mam, love you” it’s a heartbreaking read.
ur comment's at 69 likes... I don't and do want to like it... also, that is very interesting that you attended the school. I might look for the book and read it myself.
NillyC sonia is the mom of rebecca
Her last word she said to her mom
My friend Kayleigh outlet is cousins with rebeccca they were so close
I went to Archbishop McGrath too. However, I left about 10 years prior to this happening & it was before the school was bulldozed & moved to a new location. Makes me feel old. Haha.
*i don’t want a boyfriend anymore*
Glad I don’t like boys I like girls I’m a girl
@@lunar8147 same
@@lunar8147 you do realize phycopaths and socialpaths have no color, no specific gender or anything. So stay woke.
@@lunar8147 also some of the most brutal cases I've watched, the murderers were females and teenagers at that
@@lunar8147 same
I don’t think his friends are totally innocent here. If one of my friends REPEATEDLY talked about killing someone, I’d tell a parent or a relative or at least do something. I don’t care how close they were. It’s not a joke anymore if it becomes an obsession
I literally walk about offing myself on a daily basis depends on the friends you have
Yasmin Paul everyone does that. That’s today’s humor and it’s widely accepted and unfortunately not taken seriously. If you talk every day about killing someone else it isn’t the same story.
ur a snitch
I guess I'm a psycho, I do it with my friends to the people who did horrible things. But we all told each other we would never truly do these things it was just out of anger.
@@shadowsenpai35 thats not a psycho
This is one of the most senseless murders I've ever heard. And he got minimum 14 years?! What an insult for Rebecca's family and memory.
40 not 14
@@Princesssssjess It was 14 actually
i heard 14 too
I'm confused
@@cheeseontoast3434 it's 14, you can Google it
The fact that she was so happy that she might be getting back together with him made me so sad 🥺
Can’t believe the amount of effort you put into these videos! It’s amazing, especially how you tell the cases so respectfully!xxx
Jade Honey it’s incredible, tailoring all that research for us and compiling it into awesome videos✨
It’s amazing 🤩
I really sympathize with Rebecca's mom, she tried to protect Rebecca while allowing her to be free at the same time, and this is what she gets. 😑
Same here. If I was her I would’ve sat Rebecca down and discussed how he had been treating her and tell her she probably shouldn’t meet him. Also talk about her current boyfriend who I assume was nice but who knows.. 🤷🏻♀️
Unpopular opinion: The mom could've done a lot more as a *parent* to teach her daughter how to spot warning signs in a manipulative and abusive partner. That wasn't just some normal teenage boy behavior. She told her mother the kinds of rumors he spread about her and saw how he hurt her... and yet her mother happily giggled with Rebecca about possibly getting back together with him?
Teach your daughter self respect and you could've saved your daughters life.
Kat Rabbit I wouldn’t say the mom could’ve saved her really.... you really can’t escape the inevitable, once you cross paths with a psycho it’s hard to escape. His plan was to kill her, one way or another he would have killed her.sad.
@@katrabbit that's just how teenagers are. I'm not defending that behavior or anything, but I'm in high school and that's how immature students act. They're your friend one day, they talk bad about you the next and want to be best friends right after. And he also adjusted his behavior before he texted her to meet up. He was nice to her again, they were friends again. You don't think anything of it, it's normal behavior for teenagers. Again, I'm not saying that's okay, but you really can't blame her. She mostly saw good in him.
@@faze194 It's not normal. Just please know that right now, the things he did were not normal high school boy things to do. And to accept that thinking is exactly what continues the horrible behavior.
If you know boys at your school right now who treat girls like this I urge you to start recording it and take it to a higher authority immediately as that is harassment among other things that should not be tolerated or allowed to just diminish on its own.
I understand where you're coming from. Because as a teenager you don't know any better unless you've seen true horrible people and been taught at a young age that you can't trust everyone.
Unfortunately that's exactly what I mean by the fact her mother should have stepped in, she should have been able to recognize the warning signs and gotten that young man some help or kept her daughter away from him for good at the least.
A trouble loving, manipulative teenage boy turns into an abusive, angry adult man if he doesn't get checked real quick.
IF HIS NAME STARTS WITH J STAY THE HELL AWAY
A g r e e d
Crazy I just read this. I've said this to my friends lol...all my exes that ever treated me horribly their names started with J...two were John/Jon, jason,Jeremy...Crazy
Freya xo is this a heathers reference
Nyla Khan from past experience with boys i would recommend not going out with a boys name who starts with j
Jesus
14 YEARS!!!! He took someone’s life and he is only sentenced for 14 YEARS!! I would’ve sentenced him for life in jail! Like what🤬
Jordyn Ross minimum of 14 years it says
@@seanwilliams5848 exactly. I think and hope he will stay longer or forever in prison ...
I thought she said 40....
Edit: lol didn't realize how old this video is 😅
@@LizEffington I heard 40 too.
You are smashing this series!!
Are you a patreon/member?
lea martin hopefully this wasn’t pun intended
@@kimora69 Yes I'm a member
@@HipHopFan1654 Absolutely not! I actually wrote that just as I started watching the video.
She’s literally murdering this series! 💕
I cant imagine all the red flags Rebecca didn't tell anyone because she didn't want to make her boyfriend look bad...
god this is so sad to think about. for all cases involving being murdered/hurt/kidnapped by a significant other or ex. honestly though a lot of times people don’t see the red flags as red flags at first. you just get so blinded by love.
i just want to know why he hated her soooo much. how can he change that quickly?? also what if that weird sickness was a failed attempt at him poisoning her?? crazyyy
Yeah it's really strange that he started hating her so intensely without any reason and out of the blue. I really want to know what made him hate her so much.
He was clearly mentally ill, I can’t understand why else he’d suddenly change so fast.
@@bre1836 that's the most logical explanation in this case.
I was thinking both of those things!
narcissistic psycho loved to play games with her emotions
I feel so horrible for Rebecca and her family, she cared so much for him and he murdered her. Shame on all his friends for not calling him out on all his fantasies of killing Rebecca, they might have been able to save her life if they had spoken up.
For me I think he was jealous of her life. That’s the explanation of why he hated her after spending that weekend with the family. He said the best time of his life but it wasn’t his life but hers he was enjoying.
Also come on! He drew those type of drawings, collected knives and guns, he had threaten her before, talked often about killing her. What kind of people are this that find it normal that your friend talks about killing like it was describing what he ate for breakfast!
Doing dark drawings and collecting weapons inst uncommon. Many ppl do those things but never use it/do anything about it. It's also hard to define if someone is gonna do something bad...you just have to trust ig
Sometimes it’s sad. My ex boyfriend had a really united family and I felt great when I was with them, but when I came home and noticed I didn’t have that I would get sad. I understand Josh’s feeling regarding that, but also I never thought of killing my ex bf, that’s a bit too extreme.
Y in the world would someone BET on killing somebody.
@Lexie Jagger rightt
I hadn't gotten to that part yet 😳😳 sick
@: Søda : still, thats shitty, even for a joke
@: Søda : What type of a joke is that? I don’t wanna hear it’s dark humor either
@: Søda : Right
With a minimum of 14 years he better not be let out. His sentence better be his whole life.
candi0826 yeah because he can do the same thing again
When I heard her saying that he could be out in 14 years I was shocked. I hope that as well, he is a murderer and should be in prison for the rest of his life.
I just wonder WHY? She didn’t break up with him, nothing happened.. how could he be so angry? (Not that Breaking up or anything justifies a murder!)
People suspect he may have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. So it could be that he wanted to break up with her (probably because he likes to have power over other people) so to see her sad and to ruin her life, but when she recollected herself and was relatively happy even without him, he became furious.
He’s a narcissist who needed to feel like he had control. She made him happy, so he broke up with her to have the higher ground and when she was finally happy that was when he needed to wipe her out. I’m not sure why he singled her out, he probably saw her a weaker and it’s heartbreaking. He ended the life of a friend, daughter, sister and lover because he couldn’t handle not having control of her. Also, I think he poisoned her and that’s why he didn’t care when she was in the hospital.
hauha so you’re telling me a 15 and 16 year old were married? My comment was based on the information given in the video. I don’t research all cases I watch videos on, that was just my two cents on what was presented to me. Sorry if I offended you in anyways but why wasn’t that included in her video? Also the victims name was Rebecca, the killers name was Joshua, and the worried mother would be Sonia, maybe you’re talking about a different case.
hauha lol all good I was confused for a minute
@@kat4923 reminds me of the book Diary of an Oxygen Thief
They thought her life was worth a breakfast.....what???
They were kidding they didn’t think he’d do it
Could that 'illness' be from Josh poisoning Rebecca?!?!
help is on the way thats a good theory
That’s what I thought
I thought maybe from stress from bullying
I thought that too.
@Poppy Akers if it was poison, they would've done an autopsy and detected the poison in her blood. it was a mental-related physical illness.
It really annoys me EVERYTIME someone says “his friends didn’t think anything of it he was a nice kid” if my friend said to me they wanted to kill someone no matter how nice the person is something would be said.
I think as well when they are still saying it months later after the break up it's a red flag
@@thenerdygirlblog It's true,he was going on and on about it.
yeah (i know this is an old comment) but i’d like to add it’d be a LOT different if he said it once because sometimes we do say things that we don’t actually mean when we’re angry (but does anyone know the actual reason WHY josh was so angry?? it seemed strange to me). but as soon as the second time he said it came around, i feel like that’s when you should take action and report it, whether that’s to proper authorities or to the person they’re threatening/their family. this case makes me sad cause it could’ve been stopped and looked into :(
So heart breaking :( imagine going out and meeting a boy being excited thinking you’re getting back together ... :( doesn’t bear thinking about. RIP Rebecca.
It’s eerie that he changed his profile picture to an image of where he was going to kill Rebecca (I’m guessing, I’m only 10 minutes in) but how could Rebecca’s mother not be slightly worried when the image was a woods and her daughter was meeting him the next day. However Sonia still sounds like a very caring parent whilst on the phone to her daughter, making sure it is josh that she saw
(yeah~i'd be guarding my kid a lot closer...)
Considering he seemed to change his profile pics to important places, I would be terrified that it was a picture of the woods when he was meant to be meeting her at the park. Also that he kept telling her to walk around different places than planned to find him. I would have come picked my child up at that point, also considering this guy hated and bullied her not that long ago, its a big no. Not meant in any disrespect to the mum but I've had experience of abuse and this is screaming massive red flags to me
Jasmin Vdb exactly, I mean they might’ve lived in a small town, but I’m 13 and this would be a HUGE red flag to me if this happened
I don't think she was looking too deep into it. She my have been overlooking her suspension because her daughter was so happy. It's sad how things start coming together when the outcome is tragic.
If one of my friends started obsessively talking about how they wanted to kill someone I would be very concerned, not sat there laughing about it over a fry up
I would report it straight away even if no one listens to me
Absolutely
But are you a child who is by now used to that kind of dark "humour" from your friend. It's easy to see these things with hindsight and with our own perspective as adults. These were kids trying to make a stupid joke to downplay how dark their other friend was, they can't really be to blame
@@etgha there's a difference between being used to dark humor and someone out of the blue becoming obsessed with the idea of killing one particular person. that's an obvious red flag dark humor or no dark humor.
@@skittlekitty7264 I mean sure it's obvious to us, these are kids. I ain't trying to say it's funny or really any sort of "humour" but around this age is when you get edgy kids trying to fit in. It's reckless but I don't think they remotely expected their friend to actually commit murder, nor do I think they fully realised the gravity of the situation. They shouldn't be put in jail for it or whatever, like a lot of people are saying (ik that ain't what this comment is saying)
Teenagers, when someone talks about killing someone all of the time, try not to be morons, notify someone!
Vicki Noeske most teenagers would be smart enough to tell someone, I guess these ones simply weren’t and sadly that cost someone their life.
R a c h e l i actually think the opposite. Most of them turn a deaf ear to stuff like this bc it makes them so uncomfortable they don’t even know what to do.
@@juanis8219 or they've become desensitised to this shit.
Holly teenagers aren’t as stupid as you think, not all of them at least. The minority let’s the whole generation down but most are lovely :)
@@rach2708 I know, but hearing 'I wanna die' 'I'm gonna kill someone' over and over again often means that if they are being serious, nobody does take them seriously, until it actually happens. Teenagers can be very responsible and can also be great people.
Hi I was wondering if you would cover a case I've been thinking a lot about recently. It's extremely close to home and makes me feel so sick but basically a family I knew was murdered when I was in primary school. They lived on my street literally about 10 houses down from me . One of the boys (Abbas) was in my class and they were killed by their own father as he believed their mum was having an affair. He planned it all. Everyone thought they would be going on a family holiday together,including the kids and the Mum but it turns out he booked a one way ticket elsewhere for himself. He murdered them all,tied the mum up and forced her to watch him murder their children before killing her,then fled the country. It took a whole month for the bodies to be discovered because the neighbors complained about a horrible smell and when they opened the letter box it stunk and there was flies everywhere. I don't think any of us understood when we was that little what actually happened to our classmate,it was all over the news but it just didn't register. we went back after the school holidays (when the murder was carried out) we had an assembly and planted 3 trees on the field (1 for each of the children) and we wrote messages in two big books to give to the Grandparents. Abbas' best friend never came back to school either bc it was too much for him so his family moved away. None of us ever spoke of it again bc we were so young we just didn't understand and now I'm older I've looked into it and it's broken my heart so much learning all the details of how they died.
The Prescotts what’s the name of the family. Cause I remember a similar case
C M www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/evil-dad-slaughtered-wife-and-three-986907.amp
The Prescotts That’s so horrible...how could anyone even THINK about doing that. I’m sorry you lost your friend, too, I can’t even begin to imagine how hard it is ❤️
I'm so sorry 💙
The presscots.
I'm sorry you lost a friend. Don't worry he's in paradise. May I ask a question why did he kill the kids. They did nothing wrong.was not killing the wife enough for him.
RIP Rebecca, so sad that you had such a big heart and the one you loved took your life. Hope you find someone better in heaven. Fly high Gorgeous girl 😭💔
Rip rebecca🕊
um, if someone I knew had "dark" interests and a hobby of collecting weapons and he kept talking about how he wants to kill his ex-gf over and over and over again I wouldn't be like "oh he's just joking"
there was a bajillion red flags on this guy and the friends did nothing they failed both the murderer and the victim smh
my mom has dark interests and dark humor, sometimes its awkward, but shes litterally to gental to even raise her voice or curse. very christian woman, but has been trained and took classes on guns and swords and knife combat. ever since she was a teenager shes loved the midevil fighting stuff and war stories. she was diagnosed with depression at a young age and so shell nvr be allowed to join the army but its her dream.
Don't the boomers make those kind of jokes?
@@kekenaniwilson6138 Yeah, but how does she like dark arts and a Christian
You are who inspired me to study criminology! X
Wish you well on it 💗
Lauren M how is it? Is it difficult?
You do realise that criminology barely touches on murder. I study criminology and it's about law and sociology. Not some glamorised idea of what you think crime is.
@@gailm.7993 I take it, I'm in my second year. It's very difficult but it's so interesting and so worth the hard work
Patience Rachel oh no I know! I just find these videos so interesting and I’ve always been fascinated by the criminals and what makes them think the way they do x
I feel so sorry for this young girl. This guy was awful to her, abusive, mean and crazy and she just... Wanted and trusted him.
This freaks me out a bit, since the first half of the video explaining backstory is kind of what was happening to me a year ago almost exactly.. My ex was obsessed with me, hated me when he had me but was mad when I wasnt his. And my ex sounds like Josh in his personality too... freaky shit
@strawberry jam oh I definitely was! He leaves me alone now I havent heard from him in about a year now! :)
Honestly same, I was obsessed with him but also scared. Shit times really lmao
Sydnee Davis “the Sydnee Davis case”
Be careful ❤️❤️❤️
Amy Hughes... that has a nice ring to it don’t you think? Jk jk hope she stays safe!
I don’t understand how someone can be all in love with someone and then switch on a dime to hating them so much they could kill.... it’s terrifying. The whole time she was loved and trusted this boy... it’s just downright evil
I feel like his friends still had a duty to report what he was saying. They are guilty too.
No, despite how angry you are at his friends you really can't blame them. It's easy in hindsight to say they should have known "how dare they condone that!" but when you really think about it, think of the amount of empty threats or too far jokes that are made amongst a group of friends. It's dark, but more often than not the types of conversations they were having were probably just dark jokes to his unsuspecting friend group
I think they are a little guilty too ... Hope they take "jokes" like that more serious in the future ...
Yep
@@aaljustaal1890 It’s not a funny joke, especially betting on a person being killed. 😐 Most killers have those signs.
@@EmilyHernandez-jt4cs Don't fully remember this case cause it's been awhile, but I never said it was funny and I stand by what I said about hindsight and how easy it can be to ignore what looks like obvious warning signs to an outsider's perspective
The friends should have been charged with something as well. They all DISCUSSED her being murdered and didnt tell anyone or even rebecca herself. Josh carried it out but many people knew about the possibility of it for a while. Just sad
But if they even thought for a moment it was serious I'm sure they would of told her. But they thought it was a joke because well, they all thought they knew him. They can't be blamed because they genuinely thought he wasn't being serious.
@@rhonwenwestern6562 The problem is, if someone is repeatedly makes jokes about killing someone, or place bets on people life than..
this is sad. She loved that boy, so happy wanting to see him- and that time he just wanted her dead. It's very sick, I'm so depressed now :< poor Rebecca. I hope in her last moments that she didn't feel pain- :(
Whether I thought they were kidding or not, I would NEVER be friends with someone who “joked” about killing someone. Like wtf.
Honestly I would also blame his friends, maybe I don't get it, but how could they even joke about killing someone? You never know what's in the other person's mind, even if it's your close friend and if someone I know, talked so much about killing a specific person, I know for sure it would raise a red flag for me. Instead of making dumb bets, they should've warned Rebecca or tried to prevent this meeting.. I don't know, anything, but for sure they didn't act right in this whole situation
They definitely should have seen the red flags in this situation. I don't see how this could become a running "joke". After hearing this for the second time, the average normal person would at least question what the hell is wrong with this person.
I can see how you think that. But in my friend group we do joke about killing. But never actually make a running joke about one person. Or make a bet about it
Yup sad they where to simple to understand basic shit
I feel like if you make one joke, it's nothing to be worried about, even if it is pretty distasteful. But the way he couldn't drop the joke... that should have been a major indicator.
Teenage boys joke about all sorts of twisted things... they are generally really immature.
Oh man, her mom did all the right things to ensure her daughter’s safety that day. Heartbreaking.
The image of her so happy singing and dancing in her new outfit to meet her murderer just breaks my heart
did any of your research say why he actually ended up hating her? it seems like they were happy one day and the next he broke up with her and decided that he wanted to kill her. it's like there was no motive. it's so sad.
Maybe he tought it was funny because he's a sicko. Seems like he really looked forward to killing her.
Its mental illness. I keep seeing comments saying pretty much the same thing as you. I was in her shoes with my first boyfriend, literally everything she went through I did too, up until being a victim of murder. The person who breaks it off and then begins to be malicious and hateful is mentally Ill. It's not a response a healthy person has, and it's sad more people dont know this. This is VERY common in abuse, and I can testify to this. It happened to me as a 13-15 year old living on a completely separate continent than Rebecca did.
Maybe he was obsessed with her
She may have talked about a boy or someone else and that could have ticked him off
He probably felt betrayed
It's so creepy when you remember that he had changed his profile picture to a picture of woods. Rebecca and her mom both saw where she would be killed before it even happened.
How the hell do you go from having the best weekend of your life and being head over heels for someone to hating them and planning ways to kill them? He likely had antisocial personality disorder, he sounds like a lunatic.
Madison L maybe......
Maybe she rejected some advances. Maybe she didn’t reject advances but he had trouble “performing”. Maybe he is just a lunatic as you said.
I think he was a narcissist who didn’t like that someone could affect him in that way so he had to flip the situation on her to have the higher ground. Everything he did was to have a sort of control over her and when she was finally putting her life back together that’s when he couldn’t handle it
"Sounds like a lunatic?!" That boy is insane !
Such an odd, heartbreaking case. Can you imagine how confused Rebecca was when Josh hit her the first time or pushed her or whatever he did first. Honestly so heartbreaking. And the sudden flip of his personality kinda makes you wonder if he ever liked her or if something happened to him that night? Either way, feel so sorry for her family, imagine your daughter being murdered by someone you welcomed into you own home 😕
Ah yes, my girlfriends and I always joke and mention how we're going to kill our exes casually over pancakes in explicit details and in numerous plans.
Anyone else thinking maybe the reason she was ill and in hospital was because of an attempt from Josh?? Maybe with the nightshade/coca cola mixture.
Just a thought.
she literally said that in the video....it couldn't be more black and white. I don't get why everyone keeps pointing this out.
@@nathilism Its cause they probably never found anything on her system, which makes sense but there are poisons and substances that are very different or cannot be found after ingestion.
How would he get a chance to poison her if they were already broken up at this point?
@@BobMarley-bn9nf There would be ways
I wonder why he hated her so much? she did absolutely NOTHING. smh
ZOE101 narcissistic psycho loved to play games with her emotions all to show off to his little friends
ZOE101 but u don’t know she did nothing
Ariana Grande lol uh, she never addressed it in the video so...
She's so adorable, this is so sad. I can't figure out why he went from getting along with her so well and then hating her and wanting to kill her the next second? Like what?
My thoughts exactly, but later on when she told more about him I think he was just sick minded individual, he saw how much she loves him, and maybe that he could love her too, but it was just too much for his twisted dark mind-as some say the more they fight the more they love, but its still sick and some go over board! Hes a monster no doubt! She was mirroring him what he could never be-a warm hearted soul and that made him engry in my opinion!
it was probably why she was in the hospital, because he poisoned her drink or food or something
jishwasoreos wouldn't they have found that on all the tests they ran though ??
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I like your pfp I also think I might follow you on instagram
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@@slwtwn9228 donkey_paege
Its a Jessie paege fan acc
I don’t know what’s more impressive your eyeliner or your passion for these cases
Literally like a minute into the video: “he had an interest in guns and knives” me: welp he’s the killer case closed
he never said why he hated and wanted to killed her out the blue and its pissing me off
If only she had gotten annoyed about being stood up 😔
Legit i wouldn't of even walked to the village, I would of gone straight home because I'm petty 😂 I guess being petty could of saved Her life
@@yasminpaul3068 wtf go away
this case honestly breaks my heart, she was such a beautiful girl. she had her entire life ahead of her. absolutely heartbreaking.
Another case I saw on Darkest Taboos and I really don’t understand the friendship dynamics, like how could you have a joke about killing someone? Even if my friend had some dark humour I’d still be rather concerned... not just make a bet about it. Poor girl
Olivia Audley so true. My ex best friend used to do the same shit growing up - threaten me with a butcher knife until she knew I was genuinely scared, then she would laugh and be like “I’m just kidding, God”. Super sketchy.
that's exactly what I think about this case.. maybe if those "friends" did something, they could've prevented this murder
MissCherielicious yeah the sad thing is if they actually told someone that he was saying all these threats and vile things, Rebecca probably would be alive today
Olivia Audley I was just thinking about this. He had some stupid friends
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Anyone else immediately happy when you see/hear that it’s solved??😂💪🏻
I didn’t actually know her myself but my friends mother did and she said she was a very nice and bright young woman..... I feel absolutely terrible......
This literally happened 10 minutes car ride from me, everyone still talks about it now. He recently admitted to everything he done, it’s so sad, scary and close to home 💔
Did he ever say why? Like why he hated her so much? He has to have a reason. It might not be a good one but there has to be some reason he hated her enough to kill her.
Sezza
stay safe
If anyone wants to find out some more information on this case there is a show on Netflix called ‘Britain’s darkest taboos ‘ that did an episode on this case. It’s really interesting and there’s and interview with her mum talking about it. Love the video btw xxxx
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Sophia Fayrweather I don’t think so because I’m not sure if anyone ever found out. There wasn’t really a reasonable reason for him hating her that much. I might be wrong though, it’s been a while since I watched it.
14 years in prison. For taking the life on an innocent child. There truly are some sick people on this world.
-I can't wait for more. Much love to Rebecca's family💕
Been binge watching all your other videos (true crime ones) for the last hour and a half but I’ve watched all the ones since like last September so it was vv hard to find one I hadn’t watched. Also I love you and your videos so much and when you dmed me the other month I was sat on my bed crying because I was so surprised and happy.
Rebecca's family sounds so lovely, I feel heartbroken for them
Scary how you just never know peoples true intentions
Who’s reading the comments and watching this? 👀😉
Me as always...we almost always 😂
Nieve me hehe
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As a mom with teenagers I appreciate her covering cases like this so much. They teach me to be on guard about so many important things. Like if my daughter’s ex spreads horrible rumors and then acts like he wants to get back with her - no, no way. He’s toxic and gets no second chance.
Theory : if you remember in the video Eleanor said that Rebecca fell sick and the doctors didn't know the sickness, what if Josh poisoned Rebecca's food or something and failed and instead of killing her he just made her sick ? . Idk
You may actually be right. I was just thinking the same thing!
@@MsMusicgirl2009 high five . Ok I'm weird .
The doctors would've been able to figure that probably
@@salwa5394 I thought that too but if they didn't suspect that it was poison they probably wouldn't have checked. But still it seems like such an obvious thing to recognize. Idk even doctors make mistakes and I'm not a professional so idk what to think😕
@@salwa5394 true , who knows ?
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Zarancutie you make me laugh as this is a serious subject yet you still have a sense of humour. Thanks 😂💖
Your right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Zarancutie ikr
thinking the same thing ugh
the moment she said “subscribe”, i actually did it subconsciously and now, that’s one thing i’m proud of to share for the whole world to see
But why? Why he killed her?
Ariana loovver1996 if it's the case I'm thinking of, he did it for a breakfast. He killed her for a breakfast. It happened like 30 minutes from me.
Chloe Gill omg no. He was talking about murdering her way before his friend told him about the brekfast. He would did it any way. It was not the reason
Ariana loovver1996 he was thinking about killing her but the breakfast is what convinced him. Before killing her he told his friend that he'd owe him that breakfast soon and asked for it after he killed her.
Chloe Gill okay I know all the information on the case but Im unsure if u understand what Im saying. The brekfast may be what made him kill her that day but as you said, he was thinking about it for a long time so its not MAIN reason. And Im asking why he killed her, why he wanted her dead
If you look up the documentary "killed for a free breakfast" you'll see the reason.
why he even break it off with her though I don't totally understand the case at all like that detail
Me to, and why tf did he start hating her??
A report I read: "They gave different reasons for the breakup. Davies claimed Rebecca tried to trick him into getting her pregnant, which is dismissed as nonsense by those who knew her. She said it was because he refused to wear condoms." Basically the reason for the breakup is just he said, she said as of now. Only 2 people know the reason and 1 of them is sadly silenced forever while the other is untrustworthy in his word.
The fact that he was so Convincing made me wonder had he done something sinister like this before? Y would someone bet on someone else’s death? Josh had homemade poison in his home. Were they intended for her? Also the fact that he had blamed his best friend for it ended it. I also don’t believe his sad and poorly stringed together story one bit.
You have a point. It would be worthy to dig deeper in his erly life
he is probably a narcissist or has some other serious and untreated personality disorder. narcissists/ sociopaths/etc. can be EXTREMELY manipulative and convincing. and appear completely normal at first and sometimes can seem normal for a long time. he may not have necessarily ever done something like this before.
I love how respectfully you handle all your cases. One of my favorite UA-cam channels!
I'm about 6 minutes into this video and I cannot wrap my head around why these boys are making jokes about killing her, while she is in the hospital.
That “It’s harder than you’d think” quote gave me chills.
I WAS LITERALLY GOING TO REQUEST THIS CASE! It's probably the one that's stayed with me for the longest after hearing about it, and it's a shame it's not so well known.
I'd also like to request the murder of Gary Newlove. He was a dad murdered by youths in my town of Warrington. It's another one that's incredibly heartbreaking and not your typical murder case.
Love you 💙💚💛💜❤
I'm still wondering WHY he suddenly got this immense hate for her? Maybe he had some mental illness cause that sounds so weird, suddenly wanting to kill someone so badly. So sad to hear this, poor Rebecca. Great video like always!
Definitely a mental illness. I went through this exact situation, literally everything even trying to get back together with the abuser. Luckily I made it out alive, but yes the behavior and switch in the way he began treating her stems from some sort of mental illness. I know for a fact my abuser was diagnosed with multiple things while we were together and even more afterwards. It's sad to me that more people dont know this, it's very common in abuse.
oh shoot whenever i listen to your stories i stare at your face or your makeup stuff in the background to really REALLY focus bc i cant catch english that much if i lose even 5% of focus, then rebecca's closed up face appeared around the minute 13 i was so surprised my legs got weak lmaoo btw im binge watching/listening to all of your true crimes story
Thank goodness you posted I'm all out of your older videos to binge watch ❤️ love you Eleanor ❤️❤️
i just- i'm sorry- i know this is serious-
those eyelashes are on fleeeeeek
I want to know what snapped. Why he decided he hated her after seemingly nowhere. :(
i think he hated her the entire time tbh
I'm guessing he was either jealous of her and her nice life, OR she rejected his advances/ he wanted sex but she said no and so he broke up with her which caused the hatred
@@assignedcatatbirth 100% not cos they didn't have sex. He was probably mentally unstable n just snapped remember he was obsessed with dark stuff and knives
Yeah he had an evil&sick mind indeed! Its so disturbing as it seems they had an amazing weekend, best he ever had and then he brakes up with her, few hours later!? Mental case no doubt!
@@andrewrafferty9991 I'm not going to disagree with you outright, but have to say that I like dark stuff, and swords, and I would never even dream of doing something like this.
girl your makeup always looks so good😍
I feel like that when she was sick it was because he was slowly poisoning her ?
@Xxkaya oflynnxX I feel like you stole this comment being that 1746373 people commented the same exact thing 🙄🤦♀️
Ronan_The_ Accuser I feel like I don’t care 🥱
@@Taylory1221 or we just all had the same thought bc I thought that happend before I read the comments
@@gracyslovelyasmr551 their name checks out lol