Eleanor, I’m going to ask for a favour. Please do a video on Terry Coleman, from Scotland. He was my older cousin who died around Christmas from a murder. If you did one it would make me so happy that he’s being recognised ❤️ thank you for saying all these kind words ❤️
Does anyone else get nightmares after binge watching true crime videos? I go through phases of watching them because they end up making me really paranoid about getting murdered myself and I start getting nightmares where I get murdered in them so then I stop watching them for a while, but I always come back to them because they’re interesting!!
I sit out the front by myself at night watch them and have my before bed smoke 😂 sometimes it’s like 2 am and people are always walking past as my neighbours are 20 year old boys who like to have people over. It’s okay tho my family are just inside and I sit near my front door, never have dreams of random people killing me either
Elsa Smith what i meant was yes i he killed his wife but it could have been a “accident” people still go to jail for accidental murders just not as much years. that would explain why he was out of jail around the time the girl was murdered.
I was interviewed 4 times for this case, I was her age and we did a music course together that finished the day before she went missing, making me scarily me one of the last people to see her. Such a shame, rip 💖
They never said certain lives are better than others. With his criminal record he shouldn't have been let in the UK in the first place period / he should have been locked up for the rest of his life 🖒 disgusting
Sad story, she attended my primary school, I still remember when we had those discos and she was there dancing with small heels and a black dress, really sad to see someone go so fast and so brutally.
Potentially she could have been dipping her feet in the canal and put her shoes in her bag? The other thing is that maybe the killer asked her to do it as a distraction so they could make a move. Bit dark but those are the things that came to my mind as well as the killer doing it post-murder
I live very near to were she did, and have walked by that canal so many times. It is extremely dirty and literally no one I know would ever even think of putting their feet in it.
I go to this girl's school, and my drama teacher knew her and there's a picture of her in her drama room in one of the plays, it sends shivers down my spine.
Also before police had found her phone the family had said she had dyed her phone when the glass had cracked on the back multi coloured and posted the tutorial she watched to do it, the evidence found was clearly dyed and coloured too..i think it was confirmed by her sister. So so sad.
omg so glad you've done this case! I live in London and lots of people I knew also knew her so very close to home, I was accused of being her a few times when the posters were all over! absolutely devastating
søsad it occurred in Ealing as well,you’d probably recognise the poster if you lived in West london(although the case branched out to the rest of London after)
Just a PSA: you can report someone missing at any time, Not after 24 hours like you see on the TV (as that is a lie) if you have a valid excuse for why the missing person has gone missing I.e. it may be out of character for them/they are never late but always answer their texts and they aren't etc. Stay safe people!
@@lbateman25 I think it also depends on the severity (idk if I spelt that right) of each case too, police would act faster if someone was young or old, especially in colder weather or if someone was depressed and suicidal so I do see where you're coming from but generally they would act depending on case by case basis before 24 hours
As for the trash bags possibly being determined to be from a roll owned by the killer, I'm a huge lame nerd who watches Forsensic files and the like and just thought someone might like to know how I've heard you can tell. The way they're manufactured by pouring boiling plastic into thin sheets, they make random patterns that can be unique to each batch like the rings on a tree. So if you get a roll of trash bags from the killer's possession and the trash bag found at crime scene and the patterns line up, it's most definitely from that roll because the patterns are said to be unique. This may only be certain brands or an old way of making trash bags, as lots of the cases on forensics files are from the 90s I think.
Same! I love Forensic Files & the old school cold case n was about to say the same about the bags. & I wonder if about the question if rape... wonder if he was & like Eleanor said he maybe accidently killed her early or got spooked & decided to kill her & I think he could have masturbated somewhere close to her & maybe ejaculate & or sweat found around the scene or on her like on her bindings or bag or body. With the conflicting reports about if there was or wasn't DNA I wonder if earlier reports say no DNA & maybe reports on later dates say there was DNA giving time for testing to come out. Idk just curious
I was tryna remember where i had heard this information but yes, wouldve been forensic files for sure ahah used to fall asleep watching it everynight. Posted my comment before finding this one
I love how they wore yellow ribbons to show that someone was missing and you wore a yellow jumper (idk if that was intended or not) just a thing that I noticed ❤️🥺
danielle kirsty will do makeup to match the ribbons used to represent victims. i love that they take the extra step to do things like this in honor. it's so thoughtful and kind.
Can you do the magdalena zuk case. About a lady who went on holiday and ended up jumping out of a hospital window and killing herself. Very strange case and the build up to her death is really sketchy. Xxx
I am so happy you covered this case. I did dance with Alice and she was such an amazing singer. This literally happened so close to my home and the killer lived down my street. Thank you for doing this because people need to know her story.
YOU LOOK SO GOOD IN THIS VIDEO!! Not many people cover Australian cases so I was wondering if you could cover one. 2 case suggestions are: -The Wonnangatta Murders -The Truro murders
oh man, it’s mucho scary, girl...just imagine...America-because I’m for sure scared here, all the time, and I’m a grown ass woman...cus ya never know. It’s hard to feel safe anywhere anymore-buuut that’s why we all gotta keep sharp, and have our wits about us. I be prayin for all of us queens; far and wide. ❤️
Listening to her sing gave me shivers. What a beautiful voice. Having that to listen to must be so bitter sweet for her mother/ father and sister. I feel for them so so much. Thank you for covering this case bless her young heart. That man took all the closure of knowing exactly what happened with him, he was a monster.
I'm from Latvia and I remember seeing this on our national TV.. Truly heartbreaking that such a disgusting person could take another person's life, and the worst part is to realize that there are soo many evil people and it is almost impossible to understand that you have fallen into the wrong place and the wrong time. Knowing that Latvia is relatively small country (only about ~2mil people), we are very emotional to hear that Latvian is capable of doing something so horrific. I would like to express my deepest condolences to Alice and her family. Thank you, Eleanor, for telling the world this case. I am sorry that the people who hear about Latvia for the first time will connect our country with this terrible man.
Omf same Once I heard this it affected me more than a lot of other cases because we are such a small country. It makes this case feel so much more scary and sad.
@@mxdnightdreams7961 I’m from South Ealing, when we do cross country at school we sometimes go down to the river by elthorne park. It’s scary to think something like this could happen so close to where I live and go to school.
for the trash bag bit: I watched an episode of forensic files where they were able to match a certain trash bag back to a roll because the way they are torn matches up to the next one and each roll usually has similar cut marks because the machines that process them make specific markings on them as they age/get worn down. Not sure if this is how they figured it out cause obv it isn't public info but I thought it might be interesting to think about!!
Jill Staricka if the bag was the last one taken off the roll then the striations of the rips can be compared to look for similarities. Even if it’s not the last one the drum of the machine that makes them like you said can impart imperfections. If you look under a microscope with underneath illumination you can see changes in the thickness of the plastic. If that can be compared then it would be likely it’s from the same roll. I have a degree in forensics. I’m still watching the video so I haven’t heard all the evidence yet but bin bags are great for fibre evidence as the plastic creates static and attracts fibres to the plastic.
ok 1 that is a super sick degree to get and 2 I'm glad I wasn't being dumb I just felt like I remembered something similar to that and otherwise I'm not sure how they would have known it was from the same roll
Jill Staricka yeah I’ve seen a lot of different cases where they’ve matched bin liners back to the exact brand and then roll it’s fascinating how they can do that as in your mind you’d think they would be pretty generic apart from how thick and strong they are xxx
Oh my god I remember when she first went missing and there were literally missing posters scattered all around London. I was so devastated to hear about how she was brutally murdered, so young and vulnerable. RIP Alice you beautiful princess💞
I attend the high school that Alice used to go to, and I can say even now, her memory lives on. Some teachers still remember teaching her, and love her dearly. Pictures of her in our school shows are in the corridors and we have an award which we give every year in her honour
I wonder if his intention was to rape her and she died accidentally. Obviously not excusing what this vile man did in any way but maybe he saw her by the canal, climbed on top of her and raped her (Alice suffered from anorexia and was very slight compared to him) and the weight of his body on top of her compressed her chest to the point where she couldn’t breathe. He didn’t notice she had died until after he got up from on top of her, and decided calling for help wasn’t an option so decided to conceal her body instead. I think her clothes were most likely removed because he thought when he put her into the water all DNA would be washed away.. in the murder of his wife in Latvia it was very bloody, she was bludgeoned and stabbed and that doesn’t match Alice’s injuries.. I think it’s also important to note that he raped but did not kill the previous 14 year old girl he assaulted. Obviously I don’t know, but I’m just theorising here. RIP Alice, the world became darker when you left it ❤️ great video Eleanor you look radiant!
R.I.P Alice 😇😭 and please make sure you take care of yourself. You don’t have to post every single day let alone every week. We understand you have a life too and there’s nothing wrong will that. Post when you can and don’t stress yourself out 🙌🏽.
Please do a video about the case of Savanna Greywind. The case it solved but the people are currently being sentenced. Savanna was 8 months pregnant when her neighbors lured her up to their apartment and took the baby out of her then dumped her body in a nearby river.
Does that count as a double murder bcz unless it was in an incubator, an 8 month old foetus would probably not survive that Edit: oh I looked it up and found it survived
They can tell the bin liners match by matching the tear patterns on the edges of the liners and the remaining roll... I wonder if his bike went missing (since her body was found with a bike wheel). 🤔
Dont know if eleanor did it purposefully but the fact she is wearing yellow which is the colour of the ribbons put out for missing children just made me smile🥰
He could have taken her shoes off to make running away more difficult. She’d be less likely to run if she didn’t have shoes and if she did run, not having shoes would also make it more difficult. It would also be easier to follow her especially if she stepped on a sharp object and started bleeding (she’d leave behind a blood trail).
@@juliasmalley2014 Like in New York they find lots of washed up shoes with a foot inside because when the body starts to decompose and break appart the shoe and foot float up.
Please do the Emilie Meng case! She disappeared and then 1 and a half year later her body was found. It happened in Denmark and was very big here nationally, but it deserves so much more attention. They still haven’t found the murderer and it hasn’t been brought to justice. I know it’s a smaller case, but would mean the world if you would cover it. Love yours vids xx
14:37, I think I might have some info about the neon colours on the phone pictured! It used to be a trend around 2013-14 to trace the cracks on the back of broken phones with colourful sharpie pens. I remember doing it myself and it was mainly done by young teens-primarily girls. I’m pretty sure the moustache craze was popular then, too, and in the video in the beginning, Alice is wearing a moustache top. It could suggest she was a trend follower and may mean that the phone the police found at Arnis’ house really was hers, or was at least another girl’s. (super late-sorry !!)
I appreciate that you mention ‘there are too many conflicting theories out there’. I think that shows a lot of respect for the family that you don’t add to the crazy amount of rumors. Well done👏🏻
The scariest thing is, she used to go to my Primary school, and I remember her at the school discos being so happy. It’s sad to see how quickly life changes..
maybe her shoes were off because she was sitting by the canal and dangling her feet in? then she was surprised and attacked there and didn't have time to put them back on? just a thought
Its a thought. But ( I dont know if you've experienced canals your name sounds american to me. sorry for assuming.) Canal water tends to be pretty grim looking, its not the kind of water you'd willingly make contact with. It's still an idea tho. :)
I really want you to cover the gianni versace case about a serial killer who went on a hate killing spree I’ve saw some videos on it but I’d love if you would make a video on it xx
Make sure that you have keys between your fingers for punching and perfume, hairspray or pepper spray with you to spray into their eyes! Your legs are the strongest part of your body! Get on the ground and AIM FOR THEIR GROIN with your legs 😊❣️❣️
Please do the case of the silent twins. It’s a case about two twin girls and they literally had their own language that only they could understand. They also did not communicate with anyone else except each other. It’s such an interesting case because as they grow up a lot happens to them and it’s such an interesting story! Btw I love your channel💗💗
I have started getting a knot in the pit of my stomach when I hear that the victim went out for a walk and never came back. This seems to be the way so many cases start. It is also frightening that a majority leave in the afternoon or early evening. It's not as if they are wondering the streets at midnight. Why does no one see anything? I am normally very leery of circumstancial evidence, but this seems to be too much to ignore.
I have literally binge watched your videos all week all day long. I love them and love how you present them💙 so addicting. Yours are the only ones I watch
I’ve been into true crime for a while and I recently clicked on one of your videos and I haven’t stopped binging since. It takes a lot for me to drop a comment (bc I’m lazy), but I reallly love your videos and I can tell you put so much effort into you videos, honestly more than many of the youtubers I watch. You also seem really sweet and genuine AND YOURE FRICKING GORGEOUS
thats what I was thinking or turned it on and unlocked it (I'm sure they have technology to do so) an check the contacts on the phone to see if it was Alice's
@@tophatring8445 they have the possibility of transferring data and stuff from broken/smashed phones, but yeah, I don't know if it would work in this case either...
Ocean Blue they still could have taken a sim or what had been left behind and somehow incorporated it into a new phone my dads a technician for that kind of stuff, it is possible.
You are my favourite youtuber by far. You work so hard, facing so many obstacles with your mental health, and still you manage to still deliver us videos. Love you girl ❤️
Wow it's so crazy to me that you covered this case - the school that Alice went to is about 10 minutes away from mine and I remember this happening like it was yesterday. Thank you for getting her story out there ❤️
This is really sad. If that first girl went through the trial and had him prosecuted, Alice would still be alive today. We need to teach people it's smart and wise to report crimes and have people convicted... You never know who their next target will be and we need a better system in place to protect victims while they tell the legal system to convict their rapists.
The sad thing is though, that's probably not even true... even if he were actually found guilty (and VERY few rapist are, since it's so difficult to prove), I wouldn't even expect him to have recieved more than a few years in prison before they kicked him out again, with little to no intense rehabilitative counselling to ensure he's no longer a threat, or monitoring. Considering the amount of abducting rapist murderers that did have past convictions (a lot!), and still were released to commit even more horrific crimes, a doubt a small amount of prison time would have really prevented this man from murdering a child.
Em Hicks exactly Eleanor is stunning. I’m a good chunk older than her and I don’t really watch make up tutorials because hers is always flawless!!! I love how she does her eyeshadow and the rest all looks so natural. No orange face like I find a lot of youtubers who do make up tutorials do xxx
Thank you for covering this case. I was hesitant about watching it because at the time I lived very close to Alice and her suspected murderer. I was in sixth form at the time and passed where the suspect lived every day on my way to and from school. I remember when the funeral procession passed by my house and the whole area was distraught. Once again, you've been informative and respectful and this case is very close to home for me so thank you. x
So I feel that with Alice being totally submerged in water for such a long time would have made identifying sexual trauma a bit difficult. I mean keep your foot or hand in water for several hours and your skin discolored, and disfigured. Now genitalia especially a woman being in water that long would have made it next to impossible to identify exactly what trauma she had endured. I was a cosmetician in a morgue for 10 years. It was eye opening to see how much the skin changed when water or any fluid was involved. However that isn’t what made me feel Arnis (sp) is the one that did it. What made me feel as though he had committed Alice’s murder was that he can be placed near her and the scene of the murder multiple times. Why is it though that the bike wheel wasn’t connected in anyway to him? He road a bike. So he had to have extra bike parts on his property. Why wasn’t that one of the first things they looked into when connecting Arnis to Alice? Bike rims have numbers in them to identify what style they are and where they were made. Second, trash bags do have batch numbers on them. Either on the draw or on the bottom. And the inside providing water didn’t leak in it they could have found a print on the inside. At any rate Yellow is your signature color girl! Xoxoxoxoxoxoxo.
This is old but I still wanted to comment. They believe she was sexually assaulted but since her genitalia wasn't damaged, they cannot conclusively state she was. They know it was sexually motivated because his DNA was found on her vulva, her shoes, and a cigarette butt by the location. Plus, he had raped a girl 2 miles near Alice shortly before but the girl didn't press charges. Considering that they couldn't find the cause of death because she was in the water for so long, we can assume that sexual assault cannot definitively be ruled out. It's surprising he only got 7 years for killing his wife. If he had more time and if his previous rape victim went forward with her complaint, Alice Cross would still be alive. Plus, if the immigration investigation was better, he wouldn't have terrorized anyone in the UK.
I’d be really surprised if any DNA left on her body would be useful after 5 weeks underwater. But I do know you can match garbage bags on a roll by their unique perforations between the bags. And lastly, the shoe thing is odd but I have heard two general theories for removing shoes; so the victim doesn’t leave a track of prints, DNA, or scent and also to make it much more difficult to run away. Or he could have just thought it was a random forensic countermeasure he saw on a cop show 🤷🏻♀️😉 New subscriber and definitely enjoy listening to your crime videos 👍🏼😎
I got my friend into your videos yesterday we both watched some at the same time and she’s now as obsessed as me with your videos! When you uploaded last night at 8PM it shit me up and I was too scared to watch lol, finally getting round to watching it! Xxxx
A reason Alice could have put her shoes in the bag is she could have been putting her feet in the water. She was at a canal after all. And I feel personally like he intended on sexually assaulting her and while trying to keep her quiet, he might have crushed her. He probably knelt on her chest with his knees. I saw another case where that happened. They're focusing so hard on making sure they stay quiet that they accidentally suffocate/crush the victim before they can even do anything. Then they panic and hide the body. Another reason I support that theory is if she was anorexic and small, it wouldn't have taken him kneeling very hard to crush her. May she rest in peace.
I agree with part of what you were saying. But I live near this canal no one would ever put their feet in there. It is disgusting. Most people will avoid having to stop at all down there anyway. It’s doggie and gross.
honestly, Eleanor. I absolutely LOVE you and i love your channel. Your personality is so real and you seem so friendly, yet you always handle these serious cases with respect, dignity, and professionalism. I watch ALL of your true crime videos, and I can honestly say they're my favourite on youtube. Thanks so much for making these videos and sharing these stories. I hope you don't feel too pressured in your position, since you must feel pressured to post a lot. I just wanted to say take care of yourself and thank you! You're lovely!
A small note on the bin bag identification, which was covered in an episode of CSI, each person rips a bag off the roll differently and when the torn edges are compared under a microscope the tiny tears and stretched plastic match up. So it’s not just the same size, colour and brand they can confirm but also the matching rip pattern along the edges 🙂
My boyfriend's mum was talking about this the other day, so I decided to try and find a true crime video, and I couldn't find one. And now you've uploaded and !!!!!!! thank you !!!!!!
I'm watching your videos for a while now and really like like how respectfull you're presenting these cases (and the people involved). Also...I love your accent! Love from Germany, keep up your awesome work ❤️
Im 2 minutes and 34 seconds into the video, so far me and this girl were born on the same day in the same year, played the same instrument and suffered from the same eating disorder....
Eleanor, I’m going to ask for a favour. Please do a video on Terry Coleman, from Scotland. He was my older cousin who died around Christmas from a murder. If you did one it would make me so happy that he’s being recognised ❤️ thank you for saying all these kind words ❤️
Ella Rose Sorry to hear that he passed, especially in such a horrible way ❤️❤️
Ella Rose upping this comment 👍🏻 I hope this works out
I’m so sorry for your loss sweetie
Ella Rose hope she sees this x
I hope she can do this for you
Does anyone else get nightmares after binge watching true crime videos? I go through phases of watching them because they end up making me really paranoid about getting murdered myself and I start getting nightmares where I get murdered in them so then I stop watching them for a while, but I always come back to them because they’re interesting!!
Georgina B YESSSS so bad omg
Georgina B yep 😂
Yeahhh I wanna stop
yep
I sit out the front by myself at night watch them and have my before bed smoke 😂 sometimes it’s like 2 am and people are always walking past as my neighbours are 20 year old boys who like to have people over. It’s okay tho my family are just inside and I sit near my front door, never have dreams of random people killing me either
fact her body was found in my area was honestly the scariest thing
Fucking hell,i used to live close to the area so i was shitting myself becuase i was also 14 at the time.
emily tilbury sameee
emily tilbury same it’s two minutes away from me
This happened super close to my other half's job at the time he had been there about a week when they took her out of the canal :(
I like in the uk so I’m close ish I’m. 12 and my names alice haha
Only 7 YEARS for the murder of his own wife? What...
❥Brave •. might’ve been accidental??
Lillux Deluxe bruh
@@lilymcx9203 did you watch the video and also murder isht accidental, that's not how the law works
Elsa Smith what i meant was yes i he killed his wife but it could have been a “accident” people still go to jail for accidental murders just not as much years. that would explain why he was out of jail around the time the girl was murdered.
@@lilymcx9203 "accidental murders" don't exist, it's called manslaughter
I was interviewed 4 times for this case, I was her age and we did a music course together that finished the day before she went missing, making me scarily me one of the last people to see her. Such a shame, rip 💖
Holy shit, it's so tragic. She seems mega talented. Hope you are doing better nowadays!
Hey how’s it going for u ?
@Eth who tf are u
eleanor yellow looks so good on you 👌 you’re killing it queen
Sara K ^^^^^
I was just thinking this. I just watched her Q&A where she said she didn’t. Look good in yellow at all and I was like ??? Where???
Sara K ikr
True sista
“Killing it”
Why the hell was he even allowed in the UK with that criminal background?!? Makes me so sick, sick to my stomach!
OfficialGoodMannered we need to be more like other countries in that regard, especially as we have an enticing benefits system
Thegirlwiththewierdname 2 brexit 😂
ikr
My question is, why did he just get 7 YEARS of murder?
They never said certain lives are better than others. With his criminal record he shouldn't have been let in the UK in the first place period / he should have been locked up for the rest of his life 🖒 disgusting
Sad story, she attended my primary school, I still remember when we had those discos and she was there dancing with small heels and a black dress, really sad to see someone go so fast and so brutally.
@@saanvika5872 primary school in the UK is for ages 4/5-11/12 years and Alice was 14 so probably not x
@@whocares269 they never said it was at the time she died omg learn to read 😃
@@whocares269 u daft?
@@jamie-leighgibson2338 lmfaoo
You went brentside? I used to go greenford hs 🤣
Potentially she could have been dipping her feet in the canal and put her shoes in her bag? The other thing is that maybe the killer asked her to do it as a distraction so they could make a move. Bit dark but those are the things that came to my mind as well as the killer doing it post-murder
That canal is a place that no one steps near it’s really dirty and it was cold.
I live very near to were she did, and have walked by that canal so many times. It is extremely dirty and literally no one I know would ever even think of putting their feet in it.
Ellbat oof arent you the diet girl?? Hey!! Fancy seeing you here😹😹
You don't go dipping your feet in a canal...🤢🤮
but why would she have been naked and tied up
I go to this girl's school, and my drama teacher knew her and there's a picture of her in her drama room in one of the plays, it sends shivers down my spine.
Brentside? i used to go ghs
@@qo4914 yeah brentside
Daum she went brentside I went perkin
She went to Brentside high
@@qo4914 I went Greenford high school
Also before police had found her phone the family had said she had dyed her phone when the glass had cracked on the back multi coloured and posted the tutorial she watched to do it, the evidence found was clearly dyed and coloured too..i think it was confirmed by her sister. So so sad.
I remember seeing that hack all over Instagram 😨 so scary
oh my god...
I understood absolutely nothing you just said u make ZERO sense idiot
ever heard of periods & things like that hahahaha
A Acv ever heard of therapy? I think you need it if you are getting so angry at someone over something so small.
omg so glad you've done this case! I live in London and lots of people I knew also knew her so very close to home, I was accused of being her a few times when the posters were all over! absolutely devastating
søsad 2014
søsad can’t believe you didn’t hear of it it was EVERYWHERE!
søsad it occurred in Ealing as well,you’d probably recognise the poster if you lived in West london(although the case branched out to the rest of London after)
I’m from London. I literally didn’t know about this case!! I would have been 14 too !
Emma Ellison that’s so wierd where i live there was posters everywhere!! so many people brought them up to me and were like this is you
Just a PSA: you can report someone missing at any time, Not after 24 hours like you see on the TV (as that is a lie) if you have a valid excuse for why the missing person has gone missing I.e. it may be out of character for them/they are never late but always answer their texts and they aren't etc.
Stay safe people!
Alot of the time the police won't do anything until it has been 24 hours. You can obviously report it when ever, but they won't take any action.
@@lbateman25 I think it also depends on the severity (idk if I spelt that right) of each case too, police would act faster if someone was young or old, especially in colder weather or if someone was depressed and suicidal so I do see where you're coming from but generally they would act depending on case by case basis before 24 hours
@@JodieBarbwireHeart yea that's true x
Shineepineeshineepineee
@@matthewthetiger1649 - pineeshinee! gotta be one of the best episodes! He was truly living his life
As for the trash bags possibly being determined to be from a roll owned by the killer, I'm a huge lame nerd who watches Forsensic files and the like and just thought someone might like to know how I've heard you can tell. The way they're manufactured by pouring boiling plastic into thin sheets, they make random patterns that can be unique to each batch like the rings on a tree. So if you get a roll of trash bags from the killer's possession and the trash bag found at crime scene and the patterns line up, it's most definitely from that roll because the patterns are said to be unique. This may only be certain brands or an old way of making trash bags, as lots of the cases on forensics files are from the 90s I think.
Same! I love Forensic Files & the old school cold case n was about to say the same about the bags. & I wonder if about the question if rape... wonder if he was & like Eleanor said he maybe accidently killed her early or got spooked & decided to kill her & I think he could have masturbated somewhere close to her & maybe ejaculate & or sweat found around the scene or on her like on her bindings or bag or body. With the conflicting reports about if there was or wasn't DNA I wonder if earlier reports say no DNA & maybe reports on later dates say there was DNA giving time for testing to come out. Idk just curious
I was tryna remember where i had heard this information but yes, wouldve been forensic files for sure ahah used to fall asleep watching it everynight. Posted my comment before finding this one
Thank you huge lame nerd, that was super interesting!!
I’ve seen before where they’ve lined up and matched the tear marks from where you separate the bags!
I was just about to comment the same thing! (But you described it much better than I would lol)
I love how they wore yellow ribbons to show that someone was missing and you wore a yellow jumper (idk if that was intended or not) just a thing that I noticed ❤️🥺
💛💛 I hope it was her reasoning for wearing yellow
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danielle kirsty will do makeup to match the ribbons used to represent victims. i love that they take the extra step to do things like this in honor. it's so thoughtful and kind.
Darlington cannibal please!!!! It's never been done by anyone else and it's so interesting. Xx
Lenora Paige yes pleaseeee
Yassssss
If you do this please give a warning, it's a huge phobia of mine
Laurice Strogenberger I’m sure cannibal will be in the title hun so off you go attention seeking x
Life’sAdrag no need for that 😂I think they was just checking
Can you do the magdalena zuk case. About a lady who went on holiday and ended up jumping out of a hospital window and killing herself. Very strange case and the build up to her death is really sketchy. Xxx
I’d love to see this too
Tiffany wild true crime covered the Magdalena Zuk case
now i'm intrigued
That sounds so interesting
Lordanarts also covered this :)
I am so happy you covered this case. I did dance with Alice and she was such an amazing singer. This literally happened so close to my home and the killer lived down my street. Thank you for doing this because people need to know her story.
I remember walking through Ealing with my ex boyfriend and seeing her posters everywhere, very chilling
YOU LOOK SO GOOD IN THIS VIDEO!! Not many people cover Australian cases so I was wondering if you could cover one. 2 case suggestions are:
-The Wonnangatta Murders
-The Truro murders
Ohoooh Australian accent love it sounds sexy
You should dm Bella Fiori she’s Australian
It scares me... that man was let into the U.K. with that scary criminal history...
He was probably here illegally
oh man, it’s mucho scary, girl...just imagine...America-because I’m for sure scared here, all the time, and I’m a grown ass woman...cus ya never know. It’s hard to feel safe anywhere anymore-buuut that’s why we all gotta keep sharp, and have our wits about us.
I be prayin for all of us queens; far and wide. ❤️
Muls 95 I hope so 😬 otherwise our borders need serious questioning
@@muls9571 Nope he was legal
It scares me that you only get 7 years for murdering your wife in Latvia
1:18 you know you have a problem when you’re able to say the disclaimer along with Eleanor 😂 #youtubeaddict
Lauren Holmes Same omg
Me too 🤣🤣
Literally same!
BEEN THROUGH A BREAK UP TODAY AND THIS JUST MADE MY DAY I LOVE YOU.
ok i’m sorry ❤️
Same but you’ll be ok ❤️
Awwww I'm sorry ❤❤ Don't worry, I've just been friendzoned.
Fight through it sis💪🏽🔥❤️
you’ll get through this sis!
Listening to her sing gave me shivers. What a beautiful voice. Having that to listen to must be so bitter sweet for her mother/ father and sister. I feel for them so so much.
Thank you for covering this case bless her young heart.
That man took all the closure of knowing exactly what happened with him, he was a monster.
I'm from Latvia and I remember seeing this on our national TV.. Truly heartbreaking that such a disgusting person could take another person's life, and the worst part is to realize that there are soo many evil people and it is almost impossible to understand that you have fallen into the wrong place and the wrong time. Knowing that Latvia is relatively small country (only about ~2mil people), we are very emotional to hear that Latvian is capable of doing something so horrific. I would like to express my deepest condolences to Alice and her family. Thank you, Eleanor, for telling the world this case. I am sorry that the people who hear about Latvia for the first time will connect our country with this terrible man.
I'm from Latvia too, and this case is truly heartbreaking.
@@ramu-silly Tere! :D I just checked the statistics about the last year - in Latvia, there were 25 murders in 2019
I’m from Brentford it’s opposite Boston Manor park where she died
Omf same
Once I heard this it affected me more than a lot of other cases because we are such a small country. It makes this case feel so much more scary and sad.
@@mxdnightdreams7961 I’m from South Ealing, when we do cross country at school we sometimes go down to the river by elthorne park. It’s scary to think something like this could happen so close to where I live and go to school.
SIS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THE ENTIRE DAY
Same!
ok your profile pic issa mood lol
Shook apple head is my favorite apple head 😂😂😂
for the trash bag bit: I watched an episode of forensic files where they were able to match a certain trash bag back to a roll because the way they are torn matches up to the next one and each roll usually has similar cut marks because the machines that process them make specific markings on them as they age/get worn down. Not sure if this is how they figured it out cause obv it isn't public info but I thought it might be interesting to think about!!
Jill Staricka if the bag was the last one taken off the roll then the striations of the rips can be compared to look for similarities. Even if it’s not the last one the drum of the machine that makes them like you said can impart imperfections. If you look under a microscope with underneath illumination you can see changes in the thickness of the plastic. If that can be compared then it would be likely it’s from the same roll.
I have a degree in forensics. I’m still watching the video so I haven’t heard all the evidence yet but bin bags are great for fibre evidence as the plastic creates static and attracts fibres to the plastic.
ok 1 that is a super sick degree to get and 2 I'm glad I wasn't being dumb I just felt like I remembered something similar to that and otherwise I'm not sure how they would have known it was from the same roll
I also heard that the creases from the factory lined up?
Jill Staricka yeah I’ve seen a lot of different cases where they’ve matched bin liners back to the exact brand and then roll it’s fascinating how they can do that as in your mind you’d think they would be pretty generic apart from how thick and strong they are xxx
Oh my god I remember when she first went missing and there were literally missing posters scattered all around London. I was so devastated to hear about how she was brutally murdered, so young and vulnerable. RIP Alice you beautiful princess💞
I attend the high school that Alice used to go to, and I can say even now, her memory lives on. Some teachers still remember teaching her, and love her dearly. Pictures of her in our school shows are in the corridors and we have an award which we give every year in her honour
The killer might've put the shoes in her bag as a sign of suicide.
Why bin bags and tied up then?🤔
@@Ptr98 she means the killer did that as a cover up
@@Ptr98 he most probably didn't think anyone would find the body, not all murders are clever.
I wonder if his intention was to rape her and she died accidentally. Obviously not excusing what this vile man did in any way but maybe he saw her by the canal, climbed on top of her and raped her (Alice suffered from anorexia and was very slight compared to him) and the weight of his body on top of her compressed her chest to the point where she couldn’t breathe. He didn’t notice she had died until after he got up from on top of her, and decided calling for help wasn’t an option so decided to conceal her body instead. I think her clothes were most likely removed because he thought when he put her into the water all DNA would be washed away.. in the murder of his wife in Latvia it was very bloody, she was bludgeoned and stabbed and that doesn’t match Alice’s injuries.. I think it’s also important to note that he raped but did not kill the previous 14 year old girl he assaulted. Obviously I don’t know, but I’m just theorising here. RIP Alice, the world became darker when you left it ❤️ great video Eleanor you look radiant!
But i think she didn't have signs of sexual assault. She would have had injuries in her genitals.
For him to have bin liners and bounds I reckon he went with intent to dispose of a body unfortunately she crosses his path x
@@umberdandelion not necessarily
@@chloehesse9138 was it proven he had the bin bags on him at the time she died or did bring them on his subsequent returns to the body x
Chloe Not if it was him on the bike that went back 3 times.
This story is so close to my heart! She went missing so close to me and she was my cousin's best friend :(
I'm so sorry for your loss xx
Literally read this and was obviously shocked and the fact she was sooo close to you I feel so bad for you ❤️💔
I‘m so sorry. She didn‘t deserve this..
So sorry for your loss... dreadful story!
I’m so sorry!!!!! xxxxxxx
R.I.P Alice 😇😭 and please make sure you take care of yourself. You don’t have to post every single day let alone every week. We understand you have a life too and there’s nothing wrong will that. Post when you can and don’t stress yourself out 🙌🏽.
Zipporah Rose. Agreed!! Especially since the cases are so dark. It can effect you seeing the horrible things that happen to people.
The video of Alice singing breaks my heart😞 Such a pretty voice💝 may she rest in peace💛
Please do a video about the case of Savanna Greywind. The case it solved but the people are currently being sentenced. Savanna was 8 months pregnant when her neighbors lured her up to their apartment and took the baby out of her then dumped her body in a nearby river.
how did they "take the baby out" ?
Innocent Kittens You cut the abdomen open.
Well now we know what happend
Does that count as a double murder bcz unless it was in an incubator, an 8 month old foetus would probably not survive that
Edit: oh I looked it up and found it survived
I believe kendall rae covered this, the story sounds familiar.
i remember when this happened 😭 r.i.p Alice
Same 😫
JLingz Gang :( this highkey creeps me out since my name is alice
It’s so sad☹️ RIP Alice💕 I also love your username!
Omg same 😭
Alice _ me too, but my name is actually Alis Poppy... same as this Alice! very scary!
They can tell the bin liners match by matching the tear patterns on the edges of the liners and the remaining roll...
I wonder if his bike went missing (since her body was found with a bike wheel). 🤔
GirlyPanache I was just thinking what happened to his bike when he went into the store
Omg when she started singing!! She was taken to soon
Dont know if eleanor did it purposefully but the fact she is wearing yellow which is the colour of the ribbons put out for missing children just made me smile🥰
I thought the same!
**uploaded 46 seconds ago**
Me: hi.
He could have taken her shoes off to make running away more difficult. She’d be less likely to run if she didn’t have shoes and if she did run, not having shoes would also make it more difficult. It would also be easier to follow her especially if she stepped on a sharp object and started bleeding (she’d leave behind a blood trail).
They could've fallen off if someone had dragged her or picked her up and if she was fighting, it wouldn't be hard for her shoes to come off
No I think he took them off so when he threw her in the water the shoes wouldn’t come up, because the shoes would come up first.
@@juliasmalley2014
Like in New York they find lots of washed up shoes with a foot inside because when the body starts to decompose and break appart the shoe and foot float up.
Please do the Emilie Meng case! She disappeared and then 1 and a half year later her body was found. It happened in Denmark and was very big here nationally, but it deserves so much more attention. They still haven’t found the murderer and it hasn’t been brought to justice. I know it’s a smaller case, but would mean the world if you would cover it.
Love yours vids xx
Her body was found just over 5 mouths after she went missing not 18
14:37, I think I might have some info about the neon colours on the phone pictured! It used to be a trend around 2013-14 to trace the cracks on the back of broken phones with colourful sharpie pens. I remember doing it myself and it was mainly done by young teens-primarily girls. I’m pretty sure the moustache craze was popular then, too, and in the video in the beginning, Alice is wearing a moustache top. It could suggest she was a trend follower and may mean that the phone the police found at Arnis’ house really was hers, or was at least another girl’s.
(super late-sorry !!)
I appreciate that you mention ‘there are too many conflicting theories out there’. I think that shows a lot of respect for the family that you don’t add to the crazy amount of rumors. Well done👏🏻
You look like autumn with that jumper and your beautiful hair!
Lol my name is autumn x
So interested that in the UK you call that a jumper 😆 to me it’s a sweatshirt
you finally covered this case!!! love u girl x
helena woah shook you watch her too and I know you through your taylor account I-
Ana MY WIG DM ME HAHAHA
helena OKAY SLSJJSJW
New true crime video > gcse homework
Kate O'Neill my excuse is that crime videos are educational so it all balances out 😉😹
Same
Hahaha meeee
I really feel that
This is actually me right now ignoring my gcse art homework
Hold on, so you're telling me he assaulted a child - wasn't charged, and killed his wife and only spent 7 years in prison???? 7 years? For murder?!
The scariest thing is, she used to go to my Primary school, and I remember her at the school discos being so happy. It’s sad to see how quickly life changes..
maybe her shoes were off because she was sitting by the canal and dangling her feet in? then she was surprised and attacked there and didn't have time to put them back on? just a thought
Jill Staricka good thought actually
Its a thought. But ( I dont know if you've experienced canals your name sounds american to me. sorry for assuming.) Canal water tends to be pretty grim looking, its not the kind of water you'd willingly make contact with. It's still an idea tho. :)
In canals there always barges (long thin boats) Parked along the sides so it’s a very slim chance she would have room
I am actually american and all of the canals where I'm from are dried up so I didn't know that but thank you!!!! I doubt this is the case then
The canals in England are so grim and the water tends to be unpleasingly green so I doubt it's that but good thought
Please do the Russel murders and the Stephanie Slater abduction!!! Btw I love your channel! Xxx
I really want you to cover the gianni versace case about a serial killer who went on a hate killing spree I’ve saw some videos on it but I’d love if you would make a video on it xx
As a Latvian, I am so ashamed, oh God. May she rest in peace
now i’m afraid to go anywhere alone
izzy xo ye same
u should be
yeah you cant even go on a walk in the daylight
Make sure that you have keys between your fingers for punching and perfume, hairspray or pepper spray with you to spray into their eyes! Your legs are the strongest part of your body! Get on the ground and AIM FOR THEIR GROIN with your legs 😊❣️❣️
I would love to see you cover the Tia Sharpe case one day! No pressure, great job on the video as usual - true crime queen 🙌🏼
Beth Frazer she already did!
She did it :). Have you seen it yet? It’s so sad 😞.
@@user-by4ln4us5c that comment is old
Please do the unicorn killer, eyeball killer or granny killer
melanie craig those names sound.. interesting
Laughing Rn
melanie craig yesss sounds interesting
omg i've never heard of these but now I NEED TO KNOW
These sound interesting!
Please do the case of the silent twins. It’s a case about two twin girls and they literally had their own language that only they could understand. They also did not communicate with anyone else except each other. It’s such an interesting case because as they grow up a lot happens to them and it’s such an interesting story! Btw I love your channel💗💗
Molly Stapleton Kendall Rae which is a true crime UA-camr also, did the silent twins. Check her out!!’ : Kendall are.
bella fiori did one too!!
Hailey Reese did a video on them too!
That case is so unsettling I honestly couldn’t watch it lmao 😂
I have started getting a knot in the pit of my stomach when I hear that the victim went out for a walk and never came back. This seems to be the way so many cases start. It is also frightening that a majority leave in the afternoon or early evening. It's not as if they are wondering the streets at midnight. Why does no one see anything? I
am normally very leery of circumstancial evidence, but this seems to be too much to ignore.
I agree...
I still have one of those little ribbons with
Lets find Alice!! On them
We even had a search 4 Alice bake sale
Well it's nearly 10 oclock at night, can't get to sleep so the first video I click on is yours. The way u describe things is amazing. Love you x
Eleanor looks incredible in yellow🔥
Gingers always look amazing in yellow
ikr!
i’m loving all these video!! def helping me outta my depressive slump atm💛
Liv hope you feel better 😊
I have literally binge watched your videos all week all day long. I love them and love how you present them💙 so addicting. Yours are the only ones I watch
I’ve been into true crime for a while and I recently clicked on one of your videos and I haven’t stopped binging since. It takes a lot for me to drop a comment (bc I’m lazy), but I reallly love your videos and I can tell you put so much effort into you videos, honestly more than many of the youtubers I watch. You also seem really sweet and genuine AND YOURE FRICKING GORGEOUS
They could’ve tested the phone for Alice’s DNA..????
thats what I was thinking or turned it on and unlocked it (I'm sure they have technology to do so) an check the contacts on the phone to see if it was Alice's
They could've tried to test the sim card
Sammy Karba-staggl how would they be able to turn the phone on with the whole bottom part missing and also the whole thing is smashed up.
@@tophatring8445 they have the possibility of transferring data and stuff from broken/smashed phones, but yeah, I don't know if it would work in this case either...
Ocean Blue they still could have taken a sim or what had been left behind and somehow incorporated it into a new phone my dads a technician for that kind of stuff, it is possible.
would you consider covering Baby P? Its so heartbreaking and i know its really well known but i think its really important still
*SISS I have been waiting for this to be posted all day*
Yeet
the day before she got murdered, me and my brother went out to the exact spot where they found her body. forever thankful but rip Alice x
I walk past where the body was on my way to work, it's so eerie
Yes! Thank you for covering Alice’s case, Eleanor. I was really involved in Alice’s case at the time and still think about it all the time.
You are my favourite youtuber by far. You work so hard, facing so many obstacles with your mental health, and still you manage to still deliver us videos. Love you girl ❤️
Wow it's so crazy to me that you covered this case - the school that Alice went to is about 10 minutes away from mine and I remember this happening like it was yesterday. Thank you for getting her story out there ❤️
you’ve easily become my fave source for true crime, i love ur style! plus ur hair is sooo shiny i’m jealous af😭
This is really sad. If that first girl went through the trial and had him prosecuted, Alice would still be alive today. We need to teach people it's smart and wise to report crimes and have people convicted... You never know who their next target will be and we need a better system in place to protect victims while they tell the legal system to convict their rapists.
The sad thing is though, that's probably not even true... even if he were actually found guilty (and VERY few rapist are, since it's so difficult to prove), I wouldn't even expect him to have recieved more than a few years in prison before they kicked him out again, with little to no intense rehabilitative counselling to ensure he's no longer a threat, or monitoring.
Considering the amount of abducting rapist murderers that did have past convictions (a lot!), and still were released to commit even more horrific crimes, a doubt a small amount of prison time would have really prevented this man from murdering a child.
Maybe we can try to provide victims more dignity in court (and before court). It's not always easy for people to report.
I will never, ever tire of Eleanor’s videos... 💛
How do u look so fkin pretty in every video like ffs
I know right! I need her makeup skills! 😍😍
Em Hicks exactly Eleanor is stunning. I’m a good chunk older than her and I don’t really watch make up tutorials because hers is always flawless!!! I love how she does her eyeshadow and the rest all looks so natural. No orange face like I find a lot of youtubers who do make up tutorials do xxx
im always shocked by how good Eleanor looks
The singing video genuinely makes me so sad.
Thank you for covering this case. I was hesitant about watching it because at the time I lived very close to Alice and her suspected murderer. I was in sixth form at the time and passed where the suspect lived every day on my way to and from school. I remember when the funeral procession passed by my house and the whole area was distraught. Once again, you've been informative and respectful and this case is very close to home for me so thank you. x
Omg. You just made my day! You are literally one of my favorite UA-camrs ever!! You inspire me and I love you so much 🧡🧡🧡
Wow I’ve never been this early! Love you so much Eleanor💜 you’re doing an amazing job 😊
*Eleanor is a sister snack*
Anastasia Kukielski agreed
So I feel that with Alice being totally submerged in water for such a long time would have made identifying sexual trauma a bit difficult. I mean keep your foot or hand in water for several hours and your skin discolored, and disfigured. Now genitalia especially a woman being in water that long would have made it next to impossible to identify exactly what trauma she had endured.
I was a cosmetician in a morgue for 10 years. It was eye opening to see how much the skin changed when water or any fluid was involved.
However that isn’t what made me feel Arnis (sp) is the one that did it.
What made me feel as though he had committed Alice’s murder was that he can be placed near her and the scene of the murder multiple times.
Why is it though that the bike wheel wasn’t connected in anyway to him? He road a bike. So he had to have extra bike parts on his property.
Why wasn’t that one of the first things they looked into when connecting Arnis to Alice?
Bike rims have numbers in them to identify what style they are and where they were made.
Second, trash bags do have batch numbers on them. Either on the draw or on the bottom.
And the inside providing water didn’t leak in it they could have found a print on the inside.
At any rate Yellow is your signature color girl!
Xoxoxoxoxoxoxo.
This is old but I still wanted to comment. They believe she was sexually assaulted but since her genitalia wasn't damaged, they cannot conclusively state she was. They know it was sexually motivated because his DNA was found on her vulva, her shoes, and a cigarette butt by the location. Plus, he had raped a girl 2 miles near Alice shortly before but the girl didn't press charges. Considering that they couldn't find the cause of death because she was in the water for so long, we can assume that sexual assault cannot definitively be ruled out.
It's surprising he only got 7 years for killing his wife. If he had more time and if his previous rape victim went forward with her complaint, Alice Cross would still be alive. Plus, if the immigration investigation was better, he wouldn't have terrorized anyone in the UK.
Also me knowing the area like the back of my hand I know about 1000 meters away there is a junk yard with old scraps of metal and palettes
I grew up in Hanwell
I’d be really surprised if any DNA left on her body would be useful after 5 weeks underwater. But I do know you can match garbage bags on a roll by their unique perforations between the bags. And lastly, the shoe thing is odd but I have heard two general theories for removing shoes; so the victim doesn’t leave a track of prints, DNA, or scent and also to make it much more difficult to run away. Or he could have just thought it was a random forensic countermeasure he saw on a cop show 🤷🏻♀️😉
New subscriber and definitely enjoy listening to your crime videos 👍🏼😎
who cares about homework when there’s a new true crime video outttt, been waiting all day😂💘
The time and effort you put into every single video is AMAZING. ❤️respect xx
I got my friend into your videos yesterday we both watched some at the same time and she’s now as obsessed as me with your videos! When you uploaded last night at 8PM it shit me up and I was too scared to watch lol, finally getting round to watching it! Xxxx
I am watching this 4 years later. Thanks for sharing.😢
So grateful for your frequent uploads 🙌🏼
A reason Alice could have put her shoes in the bag is she could have been putting her feet in the water. She was at a canal after all. And I feel personally like he intended on sexually assaulting her and while trying to keep her quiet, he might have crushed her. He probably knelt on her chest with his knees. I saw another case where that happened. They're focusing so hard on making sure they stay quiet that they accidentally suffocate/crush the victim before they can even do anything. Then they panic and hide the body. Another reason I support that theory is if she was anorexic and small, it wouldn't have taken him kneeling very hard to crush her. May she rest in peace.
McKayla Royer took the words straight out my mind
I agree with part of what you were saying. But I live near this canal no one would ever put their feet in there. It is disgusting. Most people will avoid having to stop at all down there anyway. It’s doggie and gross.
Such a sad case. I've been watching your vids for about 4 hours and I love your channel xx
honestly, Eleanor. I absolutely LOVE you and i love your channel. Your personality is so real and you seem so friendly, yet you always handle these serious cases with respect, dignity, and professionalism. I watch ALL of your true crime videos, and I can honestly say they're my favourite on youtube. Thanks so much for making these videos and sharing these stories. I hope you don't feel too pressured in your position, since you must feel pressured to post a lot. I just wanted to say take care of yourself and thank you! You're lovely!
You are seriously one of the most hard-working youtubers ever!! stop apologizing, you are doing so so great, your videos are amazing! I love you ❤
the queen has uploaded
A small note on the bin bag identification, which was covered in an episode of CSI, each person rips a bag off the roll differently and when the torn edges are compared under a microscope the tiny tears and stretched plastic match up. So it’s not just the same size, colour and brand they can confirm but also the matching rip pattern along the edges 🙂
My boyfriend's mum was talking about this the other day, so I decided to try and find a true crime video, and I couldn't find one. And now you've uploaded and !!!!!!! thank you !!!!!!
Her singing gave me chills, it was amazing ;-; rest in peace
I'm watching your videos for a while now and really like like how respectfull you're presenting these cases (and the people involved). Also...I love your accent! Love from Germany, keep up your awesome work ❤️
Im 2 minutes and 34 seconds into the video, so far me and this girl were born on the same day in the same year, played the same instrument and suffered from the same eating disorder....
Elisabeth Andersen I love your name 😊
😮😶😯
Wow ok snowflake
@@clarallandrs7799 How does that comment fit the snowflake description? It's a simple statement.
@@clarallandrs7799 oof youre rude