LADY GAGA "Shallow" LAWSUIT | Why This Will Keep Happening
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- Опубліковано 11 сер 2019
- In this episode Rhett Shull and I discuss the new Lady Gaga "Shallow" lawsuit, why this keeps happening and how we can change it.
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#LadyGaga #Shallow #Lawsuit
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I think Rick could make a lot of money as an expert witness in these things.
too right man! that would be awesome to watch
Not a bad idea!
They use musicologists as expert witnesses.
I doubt Rick needs anymore money with a studio like that lol
Could be what he's angling for, no? Maybe he's a step or two ahead of you.
"I wrote a song once that has an E Major chord, therefore I can sue every songwriter who wrote every song after that!" That is the mentality we are dealing with here, friends.
Youd be sued by everyone who used the chord before you though
sadly you are not wrong. And the enablers aka lawyers and politicians are manically greedy and without scruples on the one hand and utterly clueless and without scruples on the other.
Are the other chords on your song less bankable?
WTF Dude? My song starts with a E Major - I'll see you in court scumbag
reno145 I’ve written several songs in E major. Maybe I should sue you! 😄😄
Music is an endless chain of artists learning from each other.
Well said mr clapper
Everything is kinda like that: cooking, science, carpentry...whatever
@@NoName-to5xl yep, it is the nature of art
Seems the learning stopped in 2010 and it has turned into formulaic garbage
@@dvvaughn564 That's what you think because you only listen to the radio lmao
That's like a writer suing everyone that has the phrase "Once Upon a Time" in their story.
Lady Gaga lawyers should play this video for the judge when they go to court!! Case dismissed!!
If it is based on three cords, they will get destroyed in court, even by bad lawyers.
No their lawyers will spend 1000 hours at $500 an hour doing ‘research’ - then provide a one hour summary of this video!
"Yes your honor, we did not rip off anyone's chords. We used off the shelf manufactured music like everyone else."
Yasss
Third Eye Blind should now come in and sue this Steve Ronsen guy because his song (Almost) sounds like Semi-charmed Kind of Life.
One Last Time - Ariana Grande also uses this melody in the chorus.
intravena Totally!
I just posted that then saw your comment and so deleted it lol!
Does she even write music? haha
pipperoooo She’s still responsible for being sued regardless lol
@@nsc217 Yep which is even funnier. haha
This is what happens when the record executives decide that everything should taste like chicken.
Great Analogy.
OK...I like it...but what if it's not chicken and just tastes like chicken...where am I going with this? I don't know. It would be an awesome conversation with the right crowd :)
🤣🤣🤣🤣brilliant
Or when it _does_ present something other than chicken, it still drowns it in the exact same sauce! One of Rick's recent videos included Hip Hop, R&B, and Dance playlists from Spotify. The Mix, EQ, FX, and (of course) Autotune on _everything_ has managed to make even totally different _genres_ of music sound totally homogeneous.
As long as there is fried chicken. I will be okay with that.
I don't know anything about music theory, I don't even play an instrument, but I like music and this type of content that Rick produces is absolutely fascinating.
You are not alone.
Guy on the right looks like Pre Malone
Hahaha +20 internet points
Dude....spot on comment
I was yawning and bursted out laughing after reading this
I laughed way fuckin hard at this
He actually doesn't and this joke has been done too many times
I invented the chromatic scale, everyone please forward your royalty cheques to me. Thank you.
@Kaptain Kid - Wouldn't that be like a patent, or something?
Don't forget me, i copyrighted V - I ...
I had the circle of filth patented, no on is paying:-(
@@TKMajor-TK. A patent only lasts for 20 years. Copyright lasts for 70 years and 1 day after the death of the composer.
@@lasentinal -- Well, if we're gonna get into the weeds ;) -- utility and plant patents last for 20 years -- but *design* patents only last 15. But, anyhow, the gist of my thinking was that patents are for inventions while copyrights are for "original works of authorship including literary, dramatic, musical, and artistic works, such as poetry, novels, movies, songs, computer software, and architecture." ( -- USPTO) If you see my thinking, there; after all, the original comment was "I invented..." =)
As someone who suffers from depression, I sometimes put my feelings into what I would class as songs. There nothing special and there just personal to me normally. But recently I shared a couple with a close friend and she said that one that I had sent her was very similar to a band she listens to. She sent me a link to this particular track and to be fair I could see where she was coming from. But it was a song from a band I had never ever heard of. So my point being. At some point two different people will write or compose something that is so similar it must happen far more than people claim or own up to.
My first song I learnt years later was a chordal conflation of two of my favourite songs.
Yup, because we all share the same world with the same human nature with the same range of emotions and in many cases the same language and in the case of music the same 12 notes.
So, we are bound to end up copying each other. The problem lies in ego (wanting to be original/ first) and money (don't take a slice of my pie).
Everything under the sun had been done. Unless someone discovers new unknown notes, then no one is original. A great artist once said we are all thieving magpies.
My opinion : they are using ( midi )
This computer does it for you ... Art , and music is a human thing ... The computer is a cool tool , but ... the current conversation is a result of a computer trying to create for you ... If you think I'm making it up . Why master songwriting , when a computer can do it for you
Would love to see Rick & Rhett w/guitars in hand in the Courtroom explaining this to the jury!
You know this video will be played to the jury, once the defense hears… and they will
Maybe they should have the Axis of Awesome video played before every court proceeding?
Bloody oath! Ozzie bloody legends!
That was the first thing that came to mind for me too!
yes. but so called Music Experts like Todd Decker are saying thats not bogus.
The court would declare the claim moot and not waste the time hearing it, or everybody would owe the original composer royalties (was the Journey???)
Especially in front of the jury. After watching the whole video I bet they'd stand up and say at one voice "NOT GUILTY!". :D
As a non-musician it blows my mind how dialed into everything these guys are about music. I had no idea how structured and exact music was.
It’s probably as well connected as math. Everything is tied to together in some way.
@@stephen5601 It really is
Music is fundamentally about making and breaking of patterns, so relational structure plays a big part. It also partly 'looks' structured because the language for describing music emphasises structure and connections: essentially, the language is designed to describe the things that can be structured. It would be equally fair to say that there are lots of things about music that cannot be captured in notation or terminology but that are fundamentally important: e.g. the difference between two people's performance of the same set of notes, or differences in tone, timbre, presence, space that we can describe only metaphorically.
It has always been this way. Bach, Mozart and Beethovan were constrained by the norms of what was acceptable in their day. Everything from key changes to tempos to harmonies had to follow fairly strict rules. The genius of great song writing is how to excel within those constraints or else to create such compelling exceptions that the rules themselves are changed.
@@gunkulator1 I thought Beethoven was actually quite controversial in his time because he broke the rules of the musical forms at that time. Does anybody know? But yeah, I believe musical genius often both utilize constraints and breaks them as well
It's like trying to claim G D C chord prog as your own "invention"
But the way I play it is different. 😂
D major scale with a bend on the last note - it is mine! xD
The blues.
@@dushk0 I claim the G D C chord prog with a dodgy B string that's ever so slightly sharp on the D and C, and slightly flat on the G :D
As an engineering major in the late 70s, I was forced to take a few non-science classes. One of them was "Listening to Music." An easy 3 semester hours, right? THAT was surprisingly the most enlightening class of my college years. Rick is spot on!!! Good music is unique music - an art - not a science.
How is it possible they started “Dust in the Wind” and didn’t finish it? That’s self control right there.
Ha It would take master self control for me to even start playing that awful song. The band that played that song, Foreigner, Kansas..... whoever, both of those bands obviously paid to have their crap played on the radio. Greed and the dumb-down of society. That is the only reason why crap like this existed and still exists on the radio. But if that's what you like, go for it enjoy!
Didn’t think that comment would upset anyone that much 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are you sure it wasn't "One call away" that they started?
@@richardm4857 Well, Rick Beato clearly disagrees with you. He even has a "What Makes This Song Great" video about Kansas' '"Wayward Son.'
hahahahahahahaha
2119 top tracks: #1 sine-wave 440hz, #2 square 220hz...
I prefer sine-wave 432hz
song must be in chakra temperament
😂❤️
Raises lawsuit alleging "@Nicolas Cage's song Sine-Wave 440hz is too harmonically similar to my single A5!!"
I still hear 60 Hz a lot though. I don't think it's going away.
It amazes me how these guys can just start playing that complex Steely Dan intro together just at the drop of a hat with no sheet music or anything, and play it perfectly! I would have to study those charts for for a week and then still probably wouldn't be able to play it as well even with the music right in front of me! It's pretty amazing to watch pros at work!
I feel your pain.
"Next lifetime", I always say.
Starting around 14 years old I decided I was tired of the same old music styles and ended up getting into music from other cultures. Today I love music from Brazil, India, and Greece to name a couple. I find that their lyrics are more interesting as a instrument with the music when I can't understand what they're actually saying.
Me too, me too!! World music is a beautiful way to get out of a compositional rut -- different scales, different rhythms, less influence of lyric! Afropop, North African, flamenco (Camaron!), K & J pops, Latin American (100s of styles from Argentina to Mexico), all of the Silk Road countries...my husband and I once tried to listen to the most popular song in every country in Africa...totally awesome UA-cam videos for a lot of them...not to mention all the European countries and music of indigenous people all over the world. Set off to write a piece of music influenced by each genre and you won't return to GO in this lifetime and chances are you won't sound like you're plagiarizing pop hits -- just don't plagiarize any of these artists' works either!
Unfortunately, America has this thing with being isolationist. It’s hard for people to listen to music that’s not in English. Plus, some people would prefer just listening to rock music where the rhythm is much simpler so they can just jump up and down instead of the more complicated rhythms of other countries where you actually have to, feel the beat or swing in a different way. Hahahahaha
It's also in a song I wrote 25 years ago, and has probably been heard by about 5,000 people. It's also in about 10 Million other songs...
Hahaha,yeah! That's why it's so rediculous!
Dude, you should like, sue someone
wow hold your horses, my grand pa that just die recently when they change the law to Life plus 100 years for copy right left me a song that he wrote 70 years ago, I believe I am own for that chord progression, for the last 95 years of his life plus no one is allowed to write a song with the same chord progression in the next 100 year$ UMG start sending my check$ and no one dares to touch the F# scale
Oh yeah great video, you should definitely start a consultancy firm for people that are been sued in music.
well, with a good lawyer and a jury of millennials ....
Weird flex
"Force fed a very simple harmonic diet." Well said!
Dude this guy really lets you peek behind the curtain of the music business.
I love how you break this down. Just straight up informative with out seeming condescending. The examples are spot on, too. Thanks for this.
The Stones 'Play with Fire' is dated 1965 and has exactly the same progression.
I find this lawsuit rather.... shallow.
ha !
oh no you di'int!
Get out.....
I see what you did there! Hahahaha.......
Ooooookey dokie
u deserve a percentage of the royalties
Yessssss!
Rick, what a great video. Another reason we all love your channel. “Imagine people today in traffic hearing that in their cars . . . they wouldn’t know what to do.” I almost fell out of my chair laughing. So great, and such a great music history lesson as well!
Also sounds like ariane grande, one last time
3:38- Nigel Tufnel is now suing Rick for the length of sustain his Les Paul achieved while playing.
Matt Howard yeah, cause Rick’s goes to 12
@Kaptain Kid I think you got a solid case !
Some say that you can still hear it to this day....
I still hear the sustain going after all these years...
LOLOLOL!!!!
This reminds me so much of what has happened with the movie industry: everything is formulaic.
largely true for the videogame industry too, although there the odds of a unique product becoming reasonably popular seem much better
Not only that, but it's all remakes and reboots. We need more original films, not another version of The Incredible Hulk or another remake of an 80's movie with the sex or ethnicity of the main characters changed.
It's true of everything. It's the focus on profit instead of quality or doing something worthwhile.
As I was born in the 60’s my mother stayed home and both parents played instruments, Piano and Guitar. Subsequently we all learned 1 or 2 instruments growing up. Love the way you dissect a song too.
Loved this video! You made a great point about kids today not playing musical instruments. I'm from England and was born in 1949. I started playing drums in 1963 after hearing Ringo! But before that I played clarinet in the school orchestra. Practically every kid at school played something! And when the beat boom really took of there were thousands of groups/bands playing gigs, big or small. I believe that many of those kids became the backbone of the British music scene which was so strong for so many years after.
Sting's music is deceptive. It sounds simple and easily accessible. But it's really hard to play. Way to nail the guitar parts, Rick.
One of the things I love about Sting is how he has a blast placing beautiful chord-extension notes (9th, 11th and 13th) in his sung melodies...
Sting also has more than a couple of 7/8 time songs too. Don’t hear that often anymore.
Stings mom was a piano teacher. He had a great background in complex chordal structures with a classical background, Before he became a pop musician.
Very complicated, indeed.
These lawsuits are getting out of hand.
What do you call 10,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
They actually bury lawyers 10 feet under because deep down they're really great people. That'what Saul Goodman said anyway.
DuckTalesWooHoo1987 don’t blame the lawyers, blame the songwriters suing
Also blame the ‘expert witnesses’ who say its copyright infringement in court and confuse the jury into saying it is
Don’t blame the lawyers. Blame the jurors. These cases prove how tone-deaf most people (juries) are. Embarrassing.
What do you call a lawyer neck deep in concrete?
Not enough concrete.
Great points, guys. My brother took me through my young life like I was living in the movie Almost Famous. Music is our passion. Your expositions, while often way beyond my understanding, are never beyond my passion. Dorian, Lydian...love it all even if it just reminds me how diverse doh re mi fa so la ti doh can be from the minds and to the hands and vocal cords of masters. Thank you. Keep it up. We're listening and learning. Happy 2021!
I think channels like this are how we will change the level of listening sophistication going forward. Thanks for what you do Rick!
Music copyright claims should always be arbitrated by musicians. Not music listeners! Idiocy.
Yes! Totally agree. Listeners are not peers. Other musicians are.
@@MsBettyRubble The first thing a court does is dismiss any jury member who is informed in anyway on the elements of a case.
@Idle Canvas - Except that the tendency you speak of, based on an (historical) effort to remove bias and prejudice in fact increases it in cases outside of the "normal" experiences of the jurors. To be completely removed from prejudice would require enlisting only non-terran aliens or computers as jurors. What we have now is a practice that enlists "expert witnesses" to testify (and hopefully clarify) the facts for the non-expert jurors, but in an era when fewer and fewer people regularly play musical instruments, their opinions are too often swayed by the social and psychological factors of these so-called experts. Who vets the experts? It is an unresolved problem, but perhaps with the ability to admit (vetted) evidence from the internet, justice can be made more fair.
people like rick should become copyright lawyers, only touching cases that involve music copyright
@@cycadaacolyte6349 Terrtible.
Thank God you talk about Steely Dan. Educate! Educate! Educate! Save music. Love your channel Rick
Yes!!!
Love this channel! We learn every time we pull up one of your videos!
Thank you guys for your great analysis! It explains a lot as to what has happened to music in the last 20 yrs.
I love the Nirvana reference that's why grunge music is unique.
I thought it was green day's brain stew....
Maggie, it’s In Bloom by Nirvana.
What is this grunge you speak of? hahaha
Well yeah.... But I never even really listened to Nirvana much to begin with. TBH I feel like Hole had better staying power--but that's an unpopular opinion.
Dennis Lewis unfortunately their biggest hit was 1456
I love how this goes into the idea of bringing back complex music that isn't just a cashgrab
I know this is going to look like an "old people against the world" thing, but I couldn't agree more. Learning music as a kid was important to me, and even though I have a non-creative career, I love not just listening to music but playing it and being able to understand and analyze it a bit. It expands your world! And yes, studies have shown that popular music produced currently is indeed less complex in structure, has less intelligent lyrics, and has less instruments involved in it than that of 30, 40, 50 years ago.
Yeah same, I personally hope rock will make a major comeback. But if it's punk-pop it's also going the right way I guess. But yeah totally same with making and understanding music. Can't live without it.
A good discussion. You hit the heart of the real cause of the problem. I have said for years that when they quit teaching music appreciation and encouraging students play an instrument it all starting to go down hill. But it's not only music, it's movies, art, literature, across the American popular culture, you can see the same process happening. You were spot on when you used the term "dumbing down." That's exactly what has happened. Keep doing your channel. You're great!
The people behind those lawsuits are absolutely pathetic.
You can’t just write something this simple on a composition level and claim to own any of it, BECAUSE NO ONE DOES!
@@SimonWoodburyForget Excuse me, sir, but your comment infringes on my copyright of the letters R, S, T, L, N, E, and Y when it's functioning as a vowel (Disney Corp. beat me to the consonant form, alas). Please rephrase it.
I'm going to copywrite the word "The".. I'm gunna be rich.
That's where you're absolutely wrong. The problem is exactly that anybody can claim that anything is theirs, pushing others towards extreme legal costs and a lost year (or two)...
@@outdoorcoaching That just shows that american copyright law is retarded.
Mighty Pigeon Are they pathetic? They are winning millions of dollars.
I just died laughing. Rhett instantly goes bass-face when playing Sting. Totally different than his guitar face! LOL.
Dust In The Wind does the same damn thing. Yee Gawds, the USA is so litigious!
It is a racket!
Big industry. Like big Pharma, like the prison industrial complex, like the military industrial complex - the USA is mostly (these days) special "interesting" getting paid for "propaganda" - at best.
That is why the Federal government has the Food and Death Administration (FDA). It is BIG business! (this is also corporatism - yet I'm getting off topic - all part of the same disease, however).
Yep and it was inherited from Europeans😂😂😂😉🥰
@@drx1xym154 👍😔
I'm in my mid 70's and played piano from age 8 . I listened to every kind of music and still do . I taught myself to play bass in my 20's using the Monk Montgoomery bass book. I mostly don't listen to Spotify unless a friend recommends a particular song or artist. I just started listening to your channel and enjoy it very much. Thank you. I'll be back for more.
The main issue with the 4 chord thematic - at least in my opinion - is that people these days rarely ever LISTEN to music. Music is running yes, but they don't listen, there's just a bluetooth speaker in the room or they're wearing one half of an ear plug set while doing something entirely different. And in order to properly digest music in such a way, music has to become simpler and simpler.
Tungsten Zephyr you’re spot on. I was just about to comment this.
I always think of my mother telling me that as a teenager she would put on Moody Blues albums in her room with the lights off and just lay there and listen. To me, that's still the best way to listen to music.
Yes that’s very true. I guess it’s too many other distractions. Music makes you think they don’t like that.
Most kids don't even have the attention span to even listen to a whole song.
Some of us only have hearing remaining in one ear. Ah, I remember back when I could locate the direction of a sound. Good times.
I love how he gave examples of other songs that had that same chord progression. More please.
Check out Axis of Awesome - 4-chord songs....
NightwishLover I love that song. Lol
Inbetween the Axis of Awesome progression , and the fifties progression , that's 90% of all songs .
You can’t claim copyright on notes in a scale. Period.
It keeps happening because of greed too, like the Marvin Gaye’s family case against Robin Thicke and Pharrell. I can’t believe they won, bc my friend can prove Marvin Gaye definitely ripped off a Mongo Santamaria song done in the 1960s, yes the song the family sued Thicke and Pharrell over.
Notice how there’s an unwritten rule in the country music community for “no plagiarism lawsuits?” Yeah.
You are so right about the need for music education. I took Music Appreciation in the 7th grade. It introduced me me to a wide variety of genres and style. It along with phys-ed were the only classes I enjoyed. It was 1965.
Kurt was really a brilliant songwriter. A lot of guitar players tend to deride him and call his guitar playing 'simplistic', which is a really pretentious way of missing the point.
I think he was raw, unrefined talent, born with a unique ear and a unique mind. He knew next to no theory, had very limited guitar skills and really had no clue what he was doing, he just did it, and it sounded great. Chris Cornell is a similar, although more sophisticated writer. It really doesn't matter how these guys got there though. The important thing is that people enjoy their songs, and Kurt managed to create something lasting, memorable, and completely original with a few clumsy bar shapes. It's really incredible when you think about it. He did so much with so little.
Kurt was inspired / heavily influenced by the Pixies who could have (wink wink) sued Nirvana. So glad Kurt tipped his hat to the Pixies.
@@Patrick-857 very well-put. I think it could also be argued that he was as gifted as Clapton in that it's very rare to have the creative mind and brilliant ear that Cobain did. I'm a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan of Adore and everything before that. As hard as it is for non-fans to listen to Billy Corgan's voice, his songwriting and ear is special like Kurt's. Not nearly as good of a vocalist, much better guitar player, but both have a unique approach to writing lyrics and Melody.
Some people make love, while some just masterbate. Same applies to guitarist😉
The real problem is that everything people admire of Nirvana was done by Sonic Youth many years before.. but Nirvana was spoon fed by MTV to angsty teens in the 90's, the same angsty teens that now on their 50's comment on music and flag Kurt as a genius "ahead of his time" lmfao
What makes this CHANNEL great? Uploads like this one! Your not only musical genius, but I love your witty sarcasm lol
A big part of the dumbing down has been the elimination of Music Class in Public Schools. My kids went to Private School and both play instruments. My nephews and nieces did public, and none of them play a thing.
I am a Baby Boomer and unless you were in the school band all we did was sing sometimes. Had a 2rd grade teacher who started everyday with us singing songs to her piano playing. One summer school session we gathered every morning to sing songs in the auditorium.
Depends on the school district. In elementary public school I started clarinet in the 5th grade-went to private school in 7th grade, and they had no instrumentals at all, then in high school, in another city, public school, I took up flute so I could play in the band-they had strings as well. I bet more public schools than you realize, have band and orchestra…at least in larger populations.
In my day, so many friends played instruments that we couldn't help but to get together and jam. This spirit is what created many of the great California bands. In our case, we discovered a free outlet at the back of our elementary school in a cemented area between bathrooms, which became our stage. Unknown to the parents in the neighborhood, this is where we held numerous wild concerts...
Noel Gallagher said on hot ones he doesn't play for the fans because fans don't know what they want until you give it to them. I liked it.
Steve Jobs said that too. Wild.
If only the courts hearing these absurd music lawsuits were subscribers to Rick's channel !
Yeah!
Thanks for a intresting discussion. My son (born 1995 in sweden) grew up in a home where we played alot of different music and he played a lot of video games. Today Im impressed by how broad his taste in music has become. (Same goes for my daughter I must ad). He is more of an listener than a player but he buildt a beautiful electric guitar.
Great discussion. Its particularly interesting to me as a songwriter that the top line melodies these days are like the scratch ones I would often reject on my way to finding a melody that was made up of great small phrases that took you on a journey. Anything by Bacharach or the Beatles was always the reference. Vocal top lines these days are more like riffs, repeated 3 times with a little turn around on the forth time to conclude the part.
I love how he somehow manages to work "in bloom" into almost every video. 🤣
😂
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@@jackwezesa1081 ?
Rhett: "I was born in 1990..."
Me: "well, I didn't think I was old until now"
yeah... i actually thought he's older than me for some reason. /feelsoldnow :D
I was born in 1993 I love old school metal but mostly early Judas Priest
I was born in an era when MTV still played music. Now that's old! Lol
Yeah, that awkward moment when you think that Rhett is older than you (well, I DO look young), yet you are the one who's actually older by 5 years...
@@acdcking1234 Same, '94 \m/
That is such a good point: that in the end it comes down to education. Musical education, art education that facilitates more sophisticated, critical thinking. Great vid. I could not have put it better.
Thank you for being one of the Few music educators on UA-cam
Don't sell video game music short, there are plenty of video game soundtracks that are as sophisticated as it gets, look at Final Fantasy, Dark Souls, the Xeno series, Persona, video games can and do contain some of the best music ever made.
I don't know if they are aware of it??
I agree
Rick and Rhet weren't selling video game soundtracks short. They were bemoaning the fact that most modern kids play video games instead of musical instruments resulting in an ear that isn't trained and educated to understand and appreciate complex songs. In video games, you're focused on the visual actions of your character, not on the chords, melodies of the background soundtrack.
@@richards1816 problem with that isn't really videogames, it's more a lack of musical exposure in general, which is more on the parents. kids used to huff paint instead of practicing an instrument in the 90s after all....lol...
That might be true, but you aren't learning to play the music.
Might as well sue "One last time" by Ariana Grande, while he's at it.
Actually, it's Ariana grande who should sue, not Steve Ronsen
LordQuorn was gonna say that myself! And after two particular notes a pop melody is only ever going to resolve itself to an nice easy place. That’s all that’s happened here.
Bogus 😂
Well done Rick n Rhett
I was thinking of that song too when he was giving examples!
Same just gonna post the exact same thing.
Exactly man
I admire people who understand music and know how to play. It’s so cool
Two of my favorite UA-cam music dudes in one video. Enjoyed it, gentlemen
Me: *hears that unique chord progression* Is that "In Bloom" by Nirvana?
Yes ... Yes it is.
Unshaken Salsa I knew the song but didn’t know the name. It was killing me because I wanted to listen to the full song but he was like “guess I don’t need to say the name of this one!”
Sell the kids for food.
I couldn't decide if it was that or Fly by Lenny Kravitz
This guy should play some Dream Theater, there's some different Chord Progressions
As soon as he said that, I figured he was going to play a Nirvana song (not Smells Like Teen Spirit). I figured it would be On a Plain or something.
This does 3 great things for me;
1) It makes me feel less guilty about my indifference to most modern pop music.
2) It reinforces my sense of luck to have had my ears grow up in the 70s.
3) It adds weight to Frank Zappa's argument that as soon as A&R men became arbiters of taste rather than just signers of cheques, the creative musical game was up.
Great work guys.
Modern European pop music is better than American.
@@Jemalacane0 -- says no one!
@@drx1xym154 Says anyone with taste. Europe has hundreds of years of musical excellence under its belt. America does not.
@@Jemalacane0 America is founded by people of European descent and American white musicians are descendants of Europeans.
Props for the Sturgill mention!
He's one of a whole category of artists/writers that the "Nashville" establishment just doesn't understand. Guys like Sam Riggs, Tyler Childress, Cody Jinks, Whiskey Myers, and even Chris Stapleton.
Thank you for all of your great videos! I have learned, and continue to learn so much from you. I appreciate you!
Thank you for your videos. It’s is such a shame that citizens of the modern world abuse the legal system for gain instead of justice. Keep making great videos!
I need to copyright the tonic. Once you hit a tonic, you have to pay me.
...dear lord...that just might work.
That could actually lead to some good music
But once you drink a gin and tonic, you have to pay me!
bb king would be so pissed w u
Well I nearly always play to 12 Barr 1-4-5 progressions in g, so stay away from that or I'll see you in court....
Back in the early 00s during the Napster lawsuits, I remember reading an Onion-style satire article about how Metallica copyrighted the E and F chords played in that order. Never in my wildest dreams did I think it would become a reality. But here we are.
Snarky Puppy filled up the Hammersmith Apollo and Gogo Pinguin the Royal Albert Hall
@mark heyne They're talking about music progressions, not lyrics or rhythm.
stretch54 its still rather condescending
Loved this video. Great job, Rick. AND I discovered Rhett! Nice.
You're doing great work. Keep it up.
I was a teenager in the mid 70’s in Canada and where I learned to play guitar was in high school. You could actually take a guitar class all through high school. As you mentioned now it’s all about video games. Times have changed here in Canada and there is no such thing as guitar classes in schools anymore. I think kids are missing out these days, if they are lucky and have a parent or relative that plays an instrument that is probably the only way they can learn. 🎸🪕
macgurrl my dad had a guitar in our garage so I took it and learned from UA-cam videos and Ultimare Guitar when I was 15 :) that was over ten years ago so there's way more resources now I'm sure than what I was using
There's band and you can choose guitar!
You don't know what you're talking about. There's guitar class in high school in Ontario in 2019.
Suicniv Relleum same here in Saskatchewan
i work at a school, that has 9 nice acoustic and two electric guitars sitting in storage as no one wants to teach them or learn them, and the focus is on music games, there is still orchestral focus, but little to no music theory and creative fun. The kids are basically eternally in a rush to leave the class to play on their phones.
Also, Lithium. I remember figuring out those Nirvana progressions as a newbie teenager and instantly recognising that they were going places my hands weren't expecting.
I hadn't realized that about current pop music. Nice video.
I watched this last week and came back here to say that you inspired me to play around on the keyboard with some unusual chords. I ended up writing what I think is my best song yet.
Really? That's what he is sueing for? Really? Very common. Hell I've used that chord progression for some of my own music.LOL🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
Shhhh!!! "They" can hear you...
Well, then you'd better duck and cover, because this dude will probably sue you as well!
Better lawyer up
When i first heard "Nevermind" I was blown away. Never heard anything like it.
Yes. The neighborhood I grew up in had several garage bands. We younger kids would walk up and down the alleys to listen to them. The local church even held a "battle" of the bands concert one summer. This was circa 1979.
This is almost EVERY Gordon Lightfoot song. Give him the money.
Stops video. Plays Steely Dan songs for half an hour. Resumes video.
Ha! Was just thinking in my head what the chord progression for FM is? I think its all the numbers.
This is one of the rare occasions when I wish UA-cam had a love react button!
And it was AWESOME!
hahahaha, perfect. yes yes yes yes yes
Haven’t watched yet, but I do that quite a bit.
Love the guitar hero comment. Guitar Hero opened my ears to so much music that I would have never have heard otherwise!
Thank you for increasing my Diet of great music. I found your channel because I was so so tired of today's pop music. I was dumbed down by the radio stations constantly repeating the same songs. Thanks again for the education in great music and listening.
Listen to college radio.
This is like sueing someone for using 'Once upon a time' in a childrens' story book. Ridiculous!
and they lived happily ever after...
"People will listen to what you put in front of them." The lesson to be learned here, folks. 100% true. Record labels or whatever controls the mainstream music industry still have that power.
They're losing that power. Actually I think that's *why* music sounds so basic these days. They couldn't put Steely Dan on these days if they tried, because people would just turn them off and go listen to the stations that actually play stuff they recognize instead of trying to understand it.
@@OMGclueless I don't know... agree the power is definitely shifting, but they still control more than 50% of what's on mainstream media. And that's a lot of power, still. And I think the reason music is so basic now goes back to when hooks became more important than actual songs. That dumbed the common listener. If all you hear are hooks, then more complex song structures start to become difficult to understand or enjoy. I've always listened to complex prog, and my favourite band is Soundgarden which is not a easy listen although very melodic. But I'm also a fan of good pop music. Down to Dua Lipa or The Weeknd, that's how mainstream I can go and enjoy. But if I listen to that stuff for too long without listening to any other complex bands in between, say for a week or two, my mind starts to want more of that and less of the others. I have to make the effort to reject the enjoyable hooks and start listening to heavy prog again. I usually go for Slipknot to completely break the cycle. The reason I'm telling you all this is because I believe that instant gratification to our minds gets us hooked on whatever gives us that immediate pleasure. Whether it's food, sex, drugs or, in this case, music. The fact that we get such a powerful release in a hook of a 3 minute song (that most of the times is just a constant repetition of the hook), makes us addicted to that. Somebody figured that out a while back and made it the core of our mainstream music. Like Quincy Jones said about Taylor Swift when he was asked what he thought about her winning the Grammys and basically being the queen of mainstream: "We need songs, Taylor. Not hooks".
and chart lists in spotify, i personally dont think they are any better then what we had before. That is also basically "wich songs was clicked most on", wich are usually the typical pop songs from the typical artists. I cant find the new Tool Song in the Spotify Charts for example at all.
But it is also true that there has been mass demand for tediously simple music from the early days of the record industry, and computers have just made the industry more efficient at supplying that demand.
@@brunosilviomartins This is a fantastic comment.
I've never played video games!!! I'm a lousy-self-taught guitar player, but I'm still learning; but my passion for music is "addictive ", that's why I watch your channel all the time, where I learn a thing or two, once in a while. Thank you, I've never had a music teacher, but at 56 I think I've found one in Rick Beato!
I'd argue playing video games expands your musical palette. Composers from all over the video game spectrum compose every kind of genre there is, and to keep interest, the same 4 chords won't cut it. Have you heard Japanese composers in games? They're insane with the type of music they produce. From series such as Zelda, Sonic, Final Fantasy, Dragon Quest, Persona, the list goes on and on.
interesting the name of the song they are fighting over is called "Shallow" pretty much says it all...
Sure does.
😂
Maybe idiot lawsuits like this will scare labels away from that chord progression.
hmmm, not a bad thing actually
Yes! Good point.
haha
Much more interesting take. It would sadly enough rely on whether or not the labels have the money and lawyers to fight and pay the suits, which they probably do.
Nop .. becaus the US Cort system is like lotto
If you do not win sue again
And you might win
Eventually
But if this had effect All over .. you would be spot on
Not sure how this popped up on my view but thanks so much for taking the time to explain this!
Thank you for reminding me. Dream of the blue turtles got me through college. I was a classically trained flautist way back in 1985-1989. Wore my Steely Dan and Sting out
I was instantly reminded of dust in the wind when he showed the chord progression. Glad to know he mentioned it.
This video, from where you began the Sting references, made me glad I am 51 and had my own lifetime full of these wonderful songs from the 70s and 80s that are constantly in rotation in my music catalog. That Sting song has always been an ultimate favorite of mine since day 1. Being a drummer, Omar Hakim's drumming on that was spectacular and just that record alone taught me a lot about the more complex drumming than what I was playing before it. I was 17 when Blue Turtles was released, and it was a remarkable album front to back. But I was a late bloomer in that field but that Sting reference reminded me of what amazing music from my childhood in the 70s to my teens and young adulthood in the 80s means now. Great video, Rick. I love how you seem to have your finger on the pulse of music from now and then and do so effortlessly and with education and enthusiasm all in most videos I've watched.
Like a new author trying to sue Stephen King for use of the word “the”
I think developing a musical palette also requires one form of curiosity or another on the listener's part. I grew up in family that loved music. From classical music to pop music to things like heavy metal.
So, I grew up in the 80s and early 90s with classical music on one end and bands like Pink Floyd, Fleetwood Mac, Queen, Bee Gees, etc. on the other. Because I was curious about music and different musical styles I learned to extend my already extensive musical palette and I started listening to bands like Nirvana. I still do that today. I discovered bands like Nightwish in the early 2000s.
My dad and I are great lovers of blues music, so that started a whole new discovery tour for both of us to find the earliest blues recordings. My discoveries never seem to end. There is always that song you hear in the background, or in whatever you're watching on the TV or listening to on the radio that will tickle your ear and awaken your curiosity.
Oddly enough, the one thing I never learned to do was play musical instrument...
Anyways, I really enjoy your channel so keep up the good work and continue to educate.
p.s. Another great way to get your single played is through reverse psychology. Just tell your radio-DJ buddy that he really should not play your new single... We all know what happened next!
Almost 1Million subs. I found you when you were around 50K. My guess is by tomorrow you'll be there. You're my favorite music UA-camr by a mile. Keep up the good work Rick!