Laminate Stairs Installation How to Install Stair Tread Riser Overlap Nose Tips Mryoucandoityourself
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- If you have a plan stairs remodel in your home, installing laminate flooring on stairs instead of carpet, you should know how to do laminate stair tread and riser installation. You can use any size laminate board for your stair risers. Please note: installing laminate stair treads you should use laminate boards that fit the whole length of the tread. We have two types of laminate stair nose - flat connection with tread and overlap. In this video, I am using overlap stair nosing. This overlap laminate nosing fits any type of laminate flooring.
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Here are a few new videos about laminate and vinyl stairs installation:
1. New Technique for Laminate Installation Light Stair Tread With Brown Riser - ua-cam.com/video/rHWC9tLdYRk/v-deo.html
2. LVP Stairs Installation With Flat Square Nosing MrYoucandoityourself - ua-cam.com/video/9It2NMPjH6c/v-deo.html
3. Create Jaw-Dropping Vinyl Plank Stairs with Overlap Nosing - ua-cam.com/video/xHz7gNk4eEE/v-deo.html
4. MILLION DOLLARS IDEA HOW TO MAKE A FLOOR NOSING - ua-cam.com/video/O0M8_oESqLk/v-deo.html
Nicely done. I didn’t see the description or the color of what you put down on the stairs. They are beautiful.
Hi Pete, thanks for your great comment!
That is awesome I am going to be doing that same project later this evening just like that I love how you do that and I'm going to copy it
Thanks Dave!
All done 😮💨 thanks. Turned out good.
Very nice vids. About to start a laminate stair project and I appreciate the professionalism that I can emulate!
Thanks for watching and warm comments! I'll publish more videos about laminate stairs installation next week. Do not miss it!
Great presentation. Thank you for the time and effort you took to make this video and share it with us. Greetings from Croatia.
You’re welcome!
I've found it a lot easier to work from the bottom up so that way the cut at the back of the tread is hidden by the riser. Also you can nail the tread at the back to keep it in place as the glue dries and hide the nails with the riser.
Hi, why I am doing stairs from the up to down, because the joints between rises and treads looks more finished and you can’t see the gaps between rises and treads when walking up and down. Also I don’t like stepping up on the fresh made stairs. But all types of installation works if you’re knowing what to do.
0:14 what is this tool called that you are using to get the precise size for the cuts. I have never seen one of those but that looks like it does an amazing job, especially since on my project i dont plan to install base at the stair areas
It’s called stair jig - amzn.to/2i3sLNG
This was helpful! Thank you. I also noticed that this seems to be a stairwell in a split level home where you did vinyl flooring on the top level. We bought stair nose to cover the edge from the top of the stairs to the exterior wall. Would it be installed the same way?
Hi Brenda, you can send me pictures to my Facebook page. I will have a look. Thanks
Question I have Lifeproof vinyl planks from Homedepot left over and I want to use it on my steps but the planks have backing (underlayment) on them. Can I still use liquid nails or do I have to remove the backing first? or is there a special glue to use when the planks comes with underlayment attached? Thank you
In January I did stairs with same planks. I just glue it with Constraction glue, steel not complains.
Thank you. What type of glue are you using?
Where do you get the Stair Tread Riser Overlap Nose? Good job..
Hi Howard, stairs treads and risers I made from laminate flooring. Nosing I bought together with laminate flooring from the hardwood store.Most hardwood stores supply nosings and moldings for laminate flooring and LVP as well. Thanks!
Did u lay the bullnose on top of the vinyl and if so did u leave any type of gap?
Great video, could you please let us know the brand and model of the nose?
Hi Cesar, you can find overlap nosing in Home Depot or Lowes. Also flooring stores sell nosing with flooring material as well. If you can't find overlap nosing, you can make it from the regular nose, just cut the bottom of grove. Thanks!
Hi. Very nice Video. From where did you order the Overlap nose...and How much does it cost,
Same hardwood flooring store supply floor and transition as well. Price for nosing around $3 per l.f. Thanks
Hello thanks for the Video very informative, I have a question, Can I go and put all the risers first???? and then all the treads?? Thanks again for all your videos I learn a lot from your efforts.
Hi, yes you can do it , but I don’t do this because if I doing risers and treads in one time all connections getting tight, no gaps. This is the way. Thanks
You nailed it now that are stapled it it'll show on the material
Hi Robert, I am using pin nails 23 Gauge. The holes are very small and not visible. Also I filled holes with wood filler. Thanks!
Hi
What is the name to the laminate floor?
Thank You!
Hi, this video is over 7 years old. I don't remember the brand and now the more popular vinyl floor. Most flooring materials with good quality, you need just to choose the color.
I am working on a stair project in my house, my stair nosing came with a metal track that it snaps into. Im wondering if i should use that or should I just glue it and use a brad nailer to fasten them down.
I never did with metal track. Maybe it’s working. I have to see it. Sorry
You don't need the metal track you just glue the stair nose to the stairs and nail it to hold it while the glue drys.
To avoid face nailing the laminate nosing i changed my plans and ended up making my own white oak treads. It seemed to me it was going to be the first failing point of the laminate treads. Thanks for the reply though.
Was there underlayment on the laminate? Or did you remove?
This laminate with out underlay.
Nice job ! I'm planning to install luxury vinyl plank flooring . Would that flooring cutter in your favorite tools list be a good choice to use? Can I cut this type of flooring on a miter saw and what type of saw blade would I use ?
Hi Dale, yes, the cutter is good. I am using for miter saw DeWalt or Freud blades with 40-45 teeth.
Thanks for the tips !!!
Thanks for sharing. Have you ever worked with flush nose pieces as opposed to these overlap nose pieces?
Yes, I did it many times, laminate and wood nosing as well. Sometimes made nosing from the same material. Thanks
@@MrYoucandoityourself thanks, did you have any videos on installing vinyl flush nose pieces on steps by chance?
Laminate Flooring on Stairs: How-to Start Installation Use Stair Jig DIY Tips Mryoucandoityourself - check this video please. Thanks!
Looks great! What kind of riser did you use? I am just wondering. Thanks for feedback.
Hi, same laminate floor for riser and treads. Thanks!
We have similar laminate as in the video, in a newly constructed house, and the nosing has a definite shiny appearance (and feel) compared to the treads.
In one place what appears to be a protective film is coming away a bit where it must have been nicked by appliance moving or something.
Is that really part of the nosing construction or did the installer forget to remove a protective film?
Doesn't look like it would be easy to pull it all off (as you would for an appliance, etc.) and I am fairly sure it's there for a reason - to minimize wear on those edges.
So I am guessing we live with those minor damaged areas which are only really visible in bright sunlight.
Thanks for any insight on that.
I have never seen a film on laminated nosings.
Thank you very much for making these videos. By the way, where can i buy the laminate stairs measure tool like yours?
You can find on Amazon. Check "stair jig", or "stair gauge". Thanks for watching!
They have something very similar at Home Depot for $20
So are u laying the Bullnose on top of the vinyl Flooring ?
This is overlap nose. Now we made square nose from the same material which can locks with treads.
Here it is-New Technique for Laminate Installation Light Stair Tread With Brown Riser
ua-cam.com/video/rHWC9tLdYRk/v-deo.html
What caliber do I use in the nail gun?
23 Gauge pin nails.
Hi can let me know please, is it possible to put let strip lights on top of the thread
Does it have enough gap for led
Please
You can put on the riser under nosing.
What glue should I be using ?
I am using Construction glue, also you can use PL 400 from Home Depot.
I am doing our floor now with laminate in the basement. I am going to be doing the stairs and had a question. The manufacture that I went with makes both the stair tread, bull nose, and rise... Is there a reason why you did not go with a full stair tread? IE: It seems like it would be easier and faster to just put and entire stair tread on, rather than some laminate, then measure/cut... then put a the bull nose piece on the end of step... Just want to make sure I am not over thinking something here...
Hi ,I am not specialize on full trad. Very hard match color with floor. My way easiest and cheap.Thanks.
Its the price difference!
What kind of adhesive is used for the greatest strength?
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In notice you mail and glued the laminate to the subfloor, so the question does it need room for contraction and expansion?
For stairs installation always glued and nailed.
@@MrYoucandoityourself what nails and gun are you using? My son is trying to do my stairs and he is stuck with finding nails that go through without showing. It's his first big project ever and this has him stumped.
@@yennymunoz5114 Hi Yenny, this is 23 Ga nailer. I used 1" 1/4 pin nails. No visible holes after work. - Pin Nailer 23-Gauge - amzn.to/3Hz4tnR
is it ok to install the laminate on stair that is not plywood??? or i have to install plywood first thx
You can install directly to the concrete, just use two glues - construction glue and hot glue for fast holds. Thanks
@@MrYoucandoityourself but if it is regular wood is that ok to install directly on top of that thx
If you don't have enough skills, just glue down plywood first.
@@MrYoucandoityourself but would i be able to glue it on the stair that is regular wood not plywood thx
The finish nails don’t crack the laminate bull nose?
I used 23 Ga pins.
Thanks
It would be easy doing the nosing on my stairs to basement… but my stairs to living room are open sides, so trying to cut miter on the laminate flooring keeps causing tearout and breaks
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2. ua-cam.com/video/z_GG56gUZwM/v-deo.html
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I have a few questions :
1- is it ok if i start with the installation from the bottom and install treads first then put the riser on top?
2- is a brod nailer for nailing the nosing and treads since it doesnt leave a big hole
Hi, good questions! First of all I would recommend installing risers and treads with nothing’s same time, because you can do more precise installation without gaps. Best installation from top to the bottom , because you don’t need to walking up and down over fresh stairs many times. And for second question: I used 23 Ga nails, holes not visible. Thanks and take care!
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
Is the bullnose a little bit higher than the laminate planks? This is how mine turned out (looks identical to yours). I'm worried about it being a tripping hazard with the small elevation differences in the products.
+Jamie Green Yes, it is overlap nosing. It is original for this type of laminated floor. There are no problems with these nosings, don't worry.
+MrYoucandoityourself thank you!
Does the floor at the top of the stairs float under the overhang, or is the first plank glued like the steps?
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Hi, is there anywhere to install lvp nosing on a rounded step or it have to be square off
Hi David, with rounded step only one way - ordering special made nosing from the wood.
David, how did you end up doing stair nose over rounded step edge? I am doing stairs now and the stair nose keep slipping down under pressure, I have went through every idea and cant proceed because I know that nailing and glue will not be enough to keep it from failing.
Where did you get that stair tread tool?
I bought it in flooring store. They not sell it more.
I am installing EVP from Lumber Liquidators and I have Particleboard treads. The install instructions say not to glue flooring to particleboard. Should I rip out the treads and replace with plywood/osb or not worry about it. Thanks
Hi Craig, yes, you have to replaced treads.
Thanks for the quick reply! that is what I figured, just needed to hear it from an expert.
Good luck with your project!
One more question. Did you glue the t&g joint for the pieces on the tread?
Just lock it.
I know when installing laminate on floors people put down pergo underpayment, can the same be done on stairs?
Hi Steve, We are doing stairs installation without any underlayment. On my channel I share my professional experiences. You can do any experiment. Thanks!
On stairs you Want to create a solid bond from material to floor.. is generally recommended to remove that rubber backing prior to Stair installation in order to do this..
is the nailer 18 or 23 gauge? you list both and didnt actually mention which you used in this video.
23 Ga! I love this tool!
Where did you buy the stair nose?
Hi Shirling, I have bought nosing with laminate in flooring store
So do you lay the riser first than the tread butts up to that? or do you lay tread than riser?
Karsten1111 1. Riser
2. Tread
3. Nosing
I don't like having a lip on the stair where the bull nose is. Try walking up and down them makes your feet sore, it's crazy that they designed it this way. Plus if you cut the nose off it will shorten the step.
Hi Lou, I agree with you about overlap nosing, it's not comfortable. But, if we cut nose off it's make step less , I am not agree. You can cut or build out - step gonna be the same. Believe me, only build out cost much more. Thanks!
Steps have to be a certain width by code.
Did you install baseboard in the basement stairs?is it recomended?
No reason.
Fixing my stairs now and was worried that the overlapping nose could be a trip hazard.
I don't know any problem with this type of nose.
@@MrYoucandoityourself Ok, thanks for the video too.
What would that stair measurement tool be called?
Stair jig.
What the name of the t your used
Overlap nosing for laminate flooring.
What ruler are you using? What is the actual name? The only one I found on amazon is $170.
Hi Steve, here it is: - Woodwise Stair Jig Scribe - amzn.to/2swvftk
Hi, so happy found your video. It's a few years, but your laminate color is exactly what I'm looking for and stair risers. Where did you get it, what's the brand? Thanks
Jules A Hi, if you living in Vancouver, I’ll give you direction. Thanks
Oh...Vancouver... thanks, we're in Orlando))
could you tell me where u got nose？I am doing stair now but can not find nose. the clour same as yours. thanks.
Hi Karen, this nosing I've got from the hardwood store together with laminated floor. If they don't have nosing in stock, you can ask to order it from supplier. Is this good enough for you?
@@MrYoucandoityourselfThank u so much！got it.
buenos dias como sepega esas piesas
Hola, estoy usando pegamento de construcción.
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Where you can find those materials?
Hi Kier, if you are mentioned about nosing, it’s supplied each flooring stores. Thanks!
What are the grips things called please
Stair jog.
Can you install the steps with the padding underneath
On the stairs of course. Lmk ty
Hi Jerry no reason to do it. Stair steps should be solid. It’s professional opinion. Thanks!
can i use laminates with padding or do i need to remove the padding?
+Yuriy G Thanks for watching! For stairs you don't need to use padding.
+MrYoucandoityourself , thanks for the reply! the reason i asked is i have laminate with padding already attached, do i have to remove it or can i keep it? i'd like to keep it as it wold soften the steps and make them a little quieter, but not sure if keeping the padding will provide enough grip for the glue.
thanks again
It is up to you, but usually I haven't seen laminated stairs with underlayment.
I checked with the manufacture, they say I need to keep the padding. So now I am confused
Raghavendra Maiya I would leave it. I’d love extra padding if I fell down the stairs! 😂
What size pins/nails are you using with the 23 Ga?
Hi Ayush, I am using 1'1/4"
Would 2" pin nails be to big? I'm using 18ga
What about trimming off the bull nose on the stair below the laminate. Treads width will be 2 to 3 inches longer. Maintaining the tread width and height is very important. ???
+ClassicManuals.net Sorry, I don't understand your question.
I want to remove the carpet on my rental, but I am afraid of lawsuit if someone trips on the lip of the molding. Is there a transition that doesn't have a lip?
Hi Heman, did you mean overlap and flash?
what is the measuring tool that you are using? I cant find it anywhere!
This is a stairs measuring tool. You can find it in the special wood/hardwood floor stores or on amazon.
I guess the nose is the most weak part.
typically how many years a laminate stair nose can last?
can the nose hold a 200 lb people?
Thanks
Joe Qiao If you need official answer you should to apply to laminate floor manufacturers. From my 12 years of experience nobody applied to make a repair for laminate stairs.
is the tool to measure angles and length home made ?
or is there a place to buy it.
horizon forest products in N.C
PL PREMUIM GLUE I ASSUME?
Yes
This is not per manufacturer specs and anyone using this instructional video needs to file a lawsuit if any claim is denied for using this method.
I made one more video about overlap nosing. You can watch it at 8 AM PST in this Sunday. Thanks!
Those stairs must be really straight, i tried using a miter saw to cut my treads and had gaps, had to use a table saw
I have many videos about stairs installation. Hardwood and laminate floor on stairs it's almost one technique. Watch and you find some ideas. Thanks!
Expansion gap ??? I believe laminate flooring expand in hot weather
Use treadlock not garbage PL you want them to be able to have a tiny bit of flex.
Hi Cody, I used construction glue for a subfloor. This glue the same strong like a Tread-Lock.I never use PL for the stairs. Thanks!
My question is,Do you trim off the ears off the stair after you remove the carpet to make it flush?
what i have done its to leave it and glue a little skirt like 1" 1/2 out the the laminate material and then the bullnose,so the tread its still like 11" width.
Like this? ua-cam.com/video/dZBcxVvHUXQ/v-deo.html
I am using an 18 GA brad nailer and it is leaving raised bumps. What am I doing wrong?
Hi, I recommend you 23 Ga pin nailer, it help you.
What length pins?
Thanks for sharing
Are you using a pin nailer? what size pins?
Yes, 23 Ga.
What length 23ga. for 8mm laminate on stairs? Thank you
Did you use a stair skirt?
Hi Stephen, Yes,I did, but not often.
Good job
Hi Dan, thank you so much!
@@MrYoucandoityourself What do you use to fill the bullzone nail holes in ?
@@robertcruz283 Hi, for 23 Ga holes you don't need to fill up. It's too small.
Great music.
I am not composer, but anyway thanks!
Does anyone know if your homeowners insurance would consider this a tripping hazard.
Thanks for watching!
Overlapping stair nose is a trip hazard . Especially on a top step. Use interlocking flush nose when available. Walking up those stairs in socks or bare feet is going to be painful
Hi, I am going to start stairs installation on Tuesday with overlapping nosing too.
What can u do if the stairs is round at the edges? If I need list in front its difficult with round front
Nudrat Butt Please visit my playlists about hardwood and laminate stairs installation and you'll see.
Nail whit the timen will deteriorate and expand coming damage laminate floor u need just glue it on tape it down for 24 hours
Hi Edgar, you can do it with glue only, I did it time to time, but for better and fast result I use 23 Ga pin nails. It’s not visible and made very little whole with out damage finished surface of laminate flooring. Thanks for watching and commenting!
As a stair builder for over 30 years I would not recommend laminate floor planks for a stair tread application. I can promise you will get squeaks over time. Spend the money and get solid 1" treads. That is unless you want to use your stairway as an alarm system.
Thanks for professional commenting!
Please be safe. I think Vinyl, Laminate, and hardwood are all dangerous on stairs. I know carpets are dirty. I think using a easily replaceable carpet runner may be the best way to go. You only have to fall down from a slippery stairs once to realize carpet is the safest option. Since permanent carpet is too hard to replace therefore I recommend a runner option.
Thanks!
Is that a San Diego oak color?
Where did you get those bull noses.
I didn't buy this laminate flooring, just made the job. Noses are original and come with this floor material.
MrYoucandoityourself The reason I ask is because I cannot find the matching bullnoses and this guy told me that commonly they add a darker color to the bullnose to contrast the transitions between steps so no one mis-steps. Have you heard of this technique?
pcproff
Yes, I used this technique. The stairs look wonderful if you make big contrast: light treads/risers + dark bullnoses or brown treads/risers and almost white bullnoses. The more contrast - the better!
Great!
pcproff
No expansion gap needed?
Hi, no gaps needed for stairs.
This looks like he put bullnose over top of plank. Aren’t they supposed to but flat. Not over top
God question! I installed overlap nosing.
The bull nose cannot be raised on a stair edge because it is a trip hazard and against the code. Always cut the stair covering short to let the bull nose settle level with the laminate so there is no raised edge.
Hi Dennis, this type of nosing is standard for a floating floor. You can send your questions to manufacturers and building departments to change the rules. Thanks!
Get rid of the music
Thanks for watching!
You should have shown the beginning to end including the risers.................!!!!
I just finished same stairs in this week. Need to make the video.
@@MrYoucandoityourself thank you for your effort. It's helping people like me in my research
what glue?
+Dennis DesRoches Construction glue or PL400. You can buy it in Home Depot.
Why did you shoot nails through a floating floor. You use adhesive on stairs because it allows for a little swelling. Nails can crack the west layer when the boards naturally react to changes in moisture. It’s fine while the house has active climate control. But let the power go out for awhile or the AC die. You will be replacing those treads.
Laminate flooring not affected by the moisture.
@@MrYoucandoityourself are you serious? Laminate flooring is mainly pressed together wood held together with glue and a wear layer. When moisture intrudes it begins to swell. Many inproperly installed laminate laminate floors have buckled due to moisture. While you obviously have the skill to do the job, you lack the proper foundation of knowledge to do it correctly. I am a CFI certified flooring installer and I am letting you know that shooting nails through a floating floor is a recipe for disaster, but if your willing to warranty your work. You will find out soon enough. Good luck.
@@mathewhallstein5934 Hi Mathew, this video is very old, around 9 years ago I did this project, and steel no complaints. If you are so certified show the right way for people how to install laminate on stairs - make your video, please. Thanks!
Que atado. Es maestro???
Thanks for watching!
Watching that caulk gun was painful
Thanks for commenting!
people on here must be minted. those stair noses cost nearly 30quid each length of 90cm. id need 26 of them to do my stairs. or am I looking in the wrong places?
Hi Webster, all nosing for laminate stairs 8 foot length. Most of hardwood flooring stores supplying this nosings.
Just ask them. Thanks
HOW ABOUT THE RISERS?????????????????
Do you need to show how to install risers or what is your question?
@@MrYoucandoityourself Your video shows the treads only . I did not see the installation of the riser. Am I missing something ????
Maybe this video help you - ua-cam.com/video/cuNNhddPAGw/v-deo.html
Bad ideal stair nose to small won't pass building code super slick bust your hip
I don’t want to argue with you because for floating floor top nosing should be overlapping floor. In this case overlap nosing on stairs same function and passing any building codes and safe as well. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@@MrYoucandoityourself do me a favor take your smartphone and Google it then get back to me
No one should use laminate on stairs, it's to slippery and the nosing sticks up to high. I have been in a few homes that did this and it hurts your feet to walk on. if you were to wear work boots it would be fine LOL
I like comments with news ideas and stories!
Not everyone is a sissy. We’ve had laminate and now luxury vinyl planks on our stairs and never had a single issue.
Shut up norm
Want a long lasting stair? use a F profile on the nose,
Hi Sebastiaan, in this video original nosing for this floor.Thanks for your idea.
Not the right way
Hi Eric, it’s your choice. Thanks for watching and commenting!
I had to turn off the video after a few seconds because the music was so loud and annoying.
You can turn sound off, and watch it again. Thanks!
That music is so dreadful it made me go home and do things I can't talk about in public. You should be ashamed of what it was though. .
Hi Don, very fanny comment!
You literally gave me nothing.
Maybe in next video.
delete the annoying music and speak as you are doing your installation. this music is irritating!!!!!!!!!
Ok, thanks.
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Thanks for watching!
Why Americans cannot live without nails ?!
Hi Rafal, Do you have other ideas?
@@MrYoucandoityourself YES! Glue is good enough. When i watch Amerian DIY JOBS,nails are everywhere! I know that you love this pneumatic machine but they are not necessery in this case.
Show your skills, please. I like to learn something new. Thanks!
MrYoucandoityourself Yeah i just go create Video special for you... I want to say that this nails are not needed at all. Rest of the work looks good.
When you share videos on UA-cam have to be ready for people opinions.
If you want to lear something new just TRY use only glue without nails. Simple and easy.
Esthetics will be on the higher level, thats it.