People like the Joker are insane although Heath Ledges Joker isn’t insane he’s actually extremely intelligent maybe even as smart as Batman so Joker would be seen as an asset by other criminals and crime organisations due to his experience and ability to cross the moral line which is why criminals like Black Mask Ras Al Ghul Penguin etc use the Joker for stuff they don’t wanna do themselves or lack the experience or moral code as the Joker he goes all the way no hesitation or fear which is why he’s so popular in Heath Ledge’s Joker for example there’s theory’s that he’s ex military maybe even special forces as his vast knowledge of tactical situations where he can plan right down to last detail is purely genius and efficient not to mention his high experience with explosives and weapons but it’s just a theory
I loved dark knight rises but the one thing I hate about it is that they don’t mention the joker once!!! I understand why they couldn’t have him in the film but they could have mentioned the joker, where he is, what happened to him, those sort of things. He is a major part of the trilogy and they made it out like Two-Face was the main villain of dark knight
@@mightystellwan1974 I read somewhere that there’s a newspaper somewhere in the film that mentions the joker being in black gate or something in a “blink and you’ll miss it” moment 🤷🏽♂️
Nolan originally thought about having a cgi of the joker as the "judge" in the dark knight rises that sentences people to death or exile but decided against it outta respect for heath and went with scarecrow instead.
Works better somewhat as scarecrow/dr. crane was a (corrupt) judge in Batman Begins already and his role in the Dark Knight rises is way too small for someone like the Joker if you ask me
I remembered that they had sketches of Joker in prison when bane was releasing all the prisoners. It would’ve been a quick cameo and Easter egg but was eventually scrapped
There's a subtle nod to the Joker toward the end of The Dark Knight Rises, when the Batman statue is unveiled. There's a bird's eye view shot of the room, and the chairs around the Batman statue are arranged such that they make a smiley face when viewed from above.
@@snatchr2451 tributing ledger, duh.. he wanted to even initially use deep fakes to add ledger but decided against it. So it's a canonical nolan Easter egg.
The thing I admire most about this person's acting is how they perfected brought out and gave depth to the character Joker this Keith human did a wonderful job and the acting he does for this character is so amazing breathtaking words cannot Define how amazing he is at portraying the Joker
There's a sequence that was storyboarded where Bane walks next to Jokers cell in Blackgate. Bane considers opening the door but keeps moving. Joker laughs at this.
I honestly like the fact that we dont really get a confirmation as to what happened to him after the events of the dark knight. It continues on the mysteriousness surrounding this character, like how we don't know his origin story.
My theory is that... after Batman sacrificed himself and (allegedly) died, Joker probably killed himself in his cell because Batman was the only meaning of his life.
My head canon always has been since jokers actor is dead this joker had already had his thrills and fun so he doesn’t really see a need to break out of Arkham or do anything. He’s basically won in a sense and there’s nothing really for him to chase anymore. My guess is that joker either stayed insane just doing god knows what or he might’ve vanished form the face of the planet doing a new identity.
Being sent to Arkham for Ledger’s joker has another effect: Ledger’s joker is far from insane - in fact he doesn’t like people calling him crazy, or a freak. Being sent to Arkham both would anger the joker, but would also show that Gotham - without Batman - still doesn’t fully understand the joker. They just think he’s a crazed lunatic - but he’s in fact a very smart and very tactical terrorist - albeit completely psychopathic.
I love it when people understand this. Even in the comics, he’s not actually insane. He clearly has psychopathy, but he isn’t suffering from psychosis. His biggest shtick is that he always gets off on an insanity plea after the terrible things that he’s done. The leading theory is that he is actually MORE sane than everyone else in Gotham because- he’s aware that he’s a comic book character.
@@jmeds94he’s supersane he’s aware he’s a comic book character , once Martian made him sane and he turned into a normal guy, he prolly couldn’t comprehend being a comic book character hence why they think joker is insane
@@jmeds94Not psychopathy. Hes anti-social. He doesn't exactly add up to the diagnois of being a Psychopath. One of the main things is that unlike a psychopath, the Joker does not value his ego or his own life. All he cares about is proving a point.
@@kybamclane9357 Anti-social? He sure seems pretty extraverted to me. He’s clearly a psychopath. In the comics I would even call it textbook. You would have to be in order to commit those acts. He lacks the ability to feel empathy and guilt for his actions. In different iterations he does care about his own life. And like you said, he cares about the point he’s making, that’s the end goal driving his narcissism.
@@jmeds94 Thats not what antisocial means. You're thinking of asocial. Antisocial is the rejection of all customs and laws of society. Its anarchy but with a special addition: apathy. Just like psychopathy, antisocials dont have empathy for other people. In the comic books, perhaps he is a psychopath but in this specific itteration The Dark Knight, he is antisocial. Theres a whole video on a psychologist diagnosising his behavior who says this.
See I respect heath ledger alot for his contribution in acting industry but for me the true respect for him is to carry his legacy further and do not end it just there, Just think if the allowance to alcohol, intoxication wouldn't been there in your country then heath ledger would be here with us just like millions of countless people as well, Cause no one born a Dr*g addict from womb it starts from lower level of intoxication like cigar, tobacco, wine alcohol etc goes upto limitless because every wape ever shot is a step towards more because after some the lower level of intoxication does not affect body and does not trigger the higher state of mind means dopamine, And held you always for more and more which outcome as an always unsatisfied state of mind and body hence depression anxiety etc what not comes with it.
I know that Christopher Nolan is fascinated by soviet history, & specifically the show trials of the 20's, where radical, destabilising figures, who had fought for the revolution, suddenly became enemy number 1 in the new "utopia". Since the new leaders required stability. I'm quite sure that the joker would have fallen into that role in tDKR. Either facing a show trial, or evading banes forces to avoid a show trial. Perhaps he would have sought batmans help somehow. It would have been interesting to see 🙂
@@loudmouthnear If you mean, source that Nolan is fascinated by show trials, watch tDKR again. The scientist is literally called "Pavel". & banes revolution is radically soviet, scarecrow conducts a showtrial, perhaps I'm assuming you are familiar with this aspect of history..
The funniest thing is that joker is almost the only villain who doesnt belong in arkham, but in blackgate, together with falcone. Maroni and pinguin. But the riddler , mr freeze, bane, clayface , scarecrow. Manbat. Professor pyg , killer croc, szazs, etc.. belong in arkham and not in prison. Bane and szazs are debatable. But joker knows exactally that what he is doing is considered wrong , he knows what the consequences of his deeds will be , he plays chaotic but is a masterplanner , he is a psychopath with a nihilistic/absurdistic philosophy , he might look crazy but he is sane .
In The Dark Knight original cut, there's a version when the Joker escapes and fades in the dark of the night because Nolan wanted the Joker back in the 3rd film to be the main antagonist along with Mistery Man (rumor). Sadly, Ledger passed away so Nolan had to change his cut in post prod and rewrite everything to prepare TDKR. Maybe that's why the last act is less good than the two previous ones.
Imagine a forth Dark Knight movie with Robin Blake as the bat going back to Arkham asylum for the joker 🔥 that shit could be the start of a whole new saga, kinda like the Arkham game series
I think it’s not the Joker himself that’s in The Dark Knight Rises, but rather the effects he had on the end of the movie. You can tell how broken Batman is, how much Gotham turned on him over Dent’s death, and so on. You can see the effects the Joker had on the third movie, even when he’s not there.
I thought a kinda cool scene would’ve been as follows. It shows Banes goons releasing prisoners, 2 of them are approaching the end of a hallway where one cell door didn’t open with the rest of the cells, as they get closer you hear the joker laughing, the two goons look at each other for a second and just walk the other way.
No in Novel Bane and some other men are releasing people from Arkham. One of Bane man walk toward a door look in and says it's the Joker. Bane replies leave him in there. However Nolan said first script Leager's Joker would have been released and would have been judge in Bane new world order instead of Scarecrow and Nolan and Goyer said they were toying with Joker possible helping Batman beat Bane but Ledger died so it was rewritten
Since The Dark Knight Rises is set 8 years after The Dark Knight, I think honestly all the stuff the Joker did after he got arrested he probably was sent to the death penalty considering he blew up a hospital and a lot of other buildings, killed countless of people, and caused so much destruction in Gotham he was probably sentenced to the death penalty so the Joker probably died in prison between the events of The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises
I heard that as well. But, considering how big of a performance Heath put on in the Dark Knight I highly doubt his role would just be a cameo. Who knows ? Maybe Bane wouldn’t have even been in the 3rd had it been for Ledger’s death. We’ll never know.
Honestly I think it's good that they didn't touch the character in The Dark Knight Rises. No one could ever match Ledger's ability, and anyway The Dark Knight is a perfect film, there's no need to tarnish it. What I like about the ending is that The Joker presumably gets captured, but in the end his fate doesn't matter because he's managed to defeat both Batman and Dent.
All NOLAN had to do is shoot a back visual of green hair and purple over coat watching chaos on the street or on a rooftop laughing... no lines, don't show his face, just KNOW who we were seeing would've been PLENTY
I think the joker was perfect the way he was, made the mob go broke and killed all the heads, got rid of batman so escolation of more and more armor and guns would end and then vanished without a trace for the viewer
I hope they bring him back as a character in another film Having someone that looks and sounds like him would be super cool and that's something I would love to see 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 Great post
No, the Joker would be sent to a federal maximum security prison where he wouldn't and couldn't escape. Remember that his crimes are also that of terrorism. You don't escape that.
I dont see the government sparing him anyway. Especially since Batman was branded a killer that night, they just need to pin the Jokers death on him too.
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Anyone else think maybe if the joker didn’t pass away the dark knight rises would’ve never happen till later and that after the dark knight there would’ve definitely been a part 2 with the joker bc tbh at the end of the dark knight we never did see him get arrested he could’ve escaped
From rumors I’ve seen Ledger would’ve been in the 3rd film. He would’ve been brought to trial. Not sure who the other villain would’ve been. He would’ve played a Hannibal lechter type role.
@@nicktalksbatman true there would’ve been more of the joker involved bc his character was so awesome but idt bane would’ve came tho if the joker didn’t pass away in real life
And also at the end of the dark knight rises when they show the statue of Batman that scene was suppose to be like a joker moment there like the statue was gonna have a smiling face
The ideology of not recasting a comic book character just because the actor is diseased is rather shallow. Comic book characters live on in fictional tales. Real life people actual pass away. Should be able to separate 1 from the other. Some other director will eventually bring back Joker so Nolan might as well have continued with the iconic villain in his trilogy. All Hollyweird did was butcher the NEXT Joker w Leto & D worst of them all… Joaquin Phoenix. The PITS!
@@nicktalksbatmanabsolutely, I think Christopher Nolan even said that the original plan for dark knight rises was to have the joker in the film, sadly we never got to see what a film like that could’ve been. I wish a screenplay was made and released for a story like this lol
He wasn't even needed on that movie, imagine how many "villains" would that movie have, characters like Selina Kyle were already not that developed because of other characters
It is very misunderstanding, why they don't bring Joker back.. no Jocker's charactors has been playing better, than Heat Ledjer did it... just phenomenal
@stinkfinga4918 To the Dark Knight, he's very important. He also caused Dent's actions, which directly lead to Batman being on the run and retiring. That's more important than Rachel, even in the grand scheme of things.
I think that was a mistake. There are no current Hollywood actors that could of replaced Heath, but there is definitely someone out there that could of brought the same unnecessary creepy essence and vibe. They Should of done an open casting call with them having to recreate Heaths version to the T in order to be casted. This has been the only successful DC movie and they canceled it over one actor, for shame.
![Batman interrogates the Joker | The Dark Knight [4k, HDR]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/jane6C4rIwc/mqdefault.jpg)
The one universe where Joker stays locked in Arkham.
or not, we may never kno for sure
@@evershadowvii7848heath is dead so yes we do
@@ABNNyeah but the character isn’t, he literally quoted the novel in the video saying that he’s in Arkham or escaped
People like the Joker are insane although Heath Ledges Joker isn’t insane he’s actually extremely intelligent maybe even as smart as Batman so Joker would be seen as an asset by other criminals and crime organisations due to his experience and ability to cross the moral line which is why criminals like Black Mask Ras Al Ghul Penguin etc use the Joker for stuff they don’t wanna do themselves or lack the experience or moral code as the Joker he goes all the way no hesitation or fear which is why he’s so popular in Heath Ledge’s Joker for example there’s theory’s that he’s ex military maybe even special forces as his vast knowledge of tactical situations where he can plan right down to last detail is purely genius and efficient not to mention his high experience with explosives and weapons but it’s just a theory
Or not.
I loved dark knight rises but the one thing I hate about it is that they don’t mention the joker once!!! I understand why they couldn’t have him in the film but they could have mentioned the joker, where he is, what happened to him, those sort of things. He is a major part of the trilogy and they made it out like Two-Face was the main villain of dark knight
I would’ve liked to see to see him mentioned too, but Nolan chose not to mention Heath at all out of respect to his family.
Yeah :( at least give viewer a clue that still joker is alive even... (Rip HL 🙏🏻)
@@mightystellwan1974 I read somewhere that there’s a newspaper somewhere in the film that mentions the joker being in black gate or something in a “blink and you’ll miss it” moment 🤷🏽♂️
There’s a tribute at least in tdkr at the Batman memorial where the seats are placed into a smiley face.
It’s because 8 years had passed, Joker wasnt a giant robot with laser eyes…he was just a man. After 8 years, people forgot n moved on.
" Once you play JOKER 🃏, you'll never be the same '
Nicholson warned him.
@@nicktalksbatman You guys are morons lmao. How is this rumor still not dead, even 15 years after?
@@nicktalksbatmanhe didn’t go insane from playing joker btw.
I like the idea of him being left at Arkham to rot, further driving out beloved psychopath to new levels of "super sanity".
It’s such a shame about health, if he was alive and joker was in this movie as well it would have been even more legendary. RIP ✌️
Nolan originally thought about having a cgi of the joker as the "judge" in the dark knight rises that sentences people to death or exile but decided against it outta respect for heath and went with scarecrow instead.
Works better somewhat as scarecrow/dr. crane was a (corrupt) judge in Batman Begins already and his role in the Dark Knight rises is way too small for someone like the Joker if you ask me
When has Nolan ever said that.
@@_Obi-Wan_Kenobi_he was not judge on part 1. he was psychiatrist at Arkham Asylum who conducted experiments on inmates
Yeah I don’t think that would’ve made sense. It would’ve been inconsistent with his character to play a lackey to Bane.
I remembered that they had sketches of Joker in prison when bane was releasing all the prisoners. It would’ve been a quick cameo and Easter egg but was eventually scrapped
I could see Bane releasing everyone but Joker. Bane is analytical and methodical. Joker is the opposite and would ruin his plans.
There's a subtle nod to the Joker toward the end of The Dark Knight Rises, when the Batman statue is unveiled. There's a bird's eye view shot of the room, and the chairs around the Batman statue are arranged such that they make a smiley face when viewed from above.
@Babylonian-Cowboywith Nolan, nothing is a coincidence, every small detail matters
@@DebzLife What would be the point of this lol
@@snatchr2451 tributing ledger, duh.. he wanted to even initially use deep fakes to add ledger but decided against it. So it's a canonical nolan Easter egg.
@@DebzLifedeep fakes lmfao in 2012?!? yeah nah
@@bigfudge3223 ever heard of the Fast and Furious deepfake? A primitive form of deepfake existed back then, just not as sophisticated
The thing I admire most about this person's acting is how they perfected brought out and gave depth to the character Joker this Keith human did a wonderful job and the acting he does for this character is so amazing breathtaking words cannot Define how amazing he is at portraying the Joker
There's a sequence that was storyboarded where Bane walks next to Jokers cell in Blackgate. Bane considers opening the door but keeps moving. Joker laughs at this.
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Bane is orderly and plans. Joker would completely disrupt that.
@nicktalksbatman not to undermine your analysis, but Dark Knight joker is 100000% the type of person to also be orderly and to plan things out
@@bloodhound1182Yh but the joker would do it for his own goal/good… not for banes
Best Batman Trilogy ever made!
I honestly like the fact that we dont really get a confirmation as to what happened to him after the events of the dark knight. It continues on the mysteriousness surrounding this character, like how we don't know his origin story.
I agree. Leave it up to your imagination.
Heath Ledger is a legend❤
Heath Legend
My theory is that... after Batman sacrificed himself and (allegedly) died, Joker probably killed himself in his cell because Batman was the only meaning of his life.
Interesting theory. Makes sense. Without Batman there’s no Joker.
I doubt it since he would be smart to know he isn't truly dead and just faked it.
My head canon always has been since jokers actor is dead this joker had already had his thrills and fun so he doesn’t really see a need to break out of Arkham or do anything. He’s basically won in a sense and there’s nothing really for him to chase anymore. My guess is that joker either stayed insane just doing god knows what or he might’ve vanished form the face of the planet doing a new identity.
Out of respect no one can match heath’s performance that’s why they wouldn’t cast another joker 🃏 his performance was priceless
To me Jack Nicholson and Heath ledger are the best joker
Being sent to Arkham for Ledger’s joker has another effect: Ledger’s joker is far from insane - in fact he doesn’t like people calling him crazy, or a freak. Being sent to Arkham both would anger the joker, but would also show that Gotham - without Batman - still doesn’t fully understand the joker. They just think he’s a crazed lunatic - but he’s in fact a very smart and very tactical terrorist - albeit completely psychopathic.
I love it when people understand this. Even in the comics, he’s not actually insane. He clearly has psychopathy, but he isn’t suffering from psychosis. His biggest shtick is that he always gets off on an insanity plea after the terrible things that he’s done. The leading theory is that he is actually MORE sane than everyone else in Gotham because- he’s aware that he’s a comic book character.
@@jmeds94he’s supersane he’s aware he’s a comic book character , once Martian made him sane and he turned into a normal guy, he prolly couldn’t comprehend being a comic book character hence why they think joker is insane
@@jmeds94Not psychopathy. Hes anti-social. He doesn't exactly add up to the diagnois of being a Psychopath. One of the main things is that unlike a psychopath, the Joker does not value his ego or his own life. All he cares about is proving a point.
@@kybamclane9357 Anti-social? He sure seems pretty extraverted to me.
He’s clearly a psychopath. In the comics I would even call it textbook. You would have to be in order to commit those acts. He lacks the ability to feel empathy and guilt for his actions. In different iterations he does care about his own life. And like you said, he cares about the point he’s making, that’s the end goal driving his narcissism.
@@jmeds94 Thats not what antisocial means. You're thinking of asocial. Antisocial is the rejection of all customs and laws of society. Its anarchy but with a special addition: apathy. Just like psychopathy, antisocials dont have empathy for other people. In the comic books, perhaps he is a psychopath but in this specific itteration The Dark Knight, he is antisocial. Theres a whole video on a psychologist diagnosising his behavior who says this.
“It’s not that simple. With the Joker it never is”.
Love the Spawn picture !
@@nicktalksbatman- Thank you. Love the your video. 🙏
In a way the Joker's prophecy of anarchy and chaos came to fruition in the Dark Knight Rises.
That it did
I think if they acknowledged him escaping or whatever people would just be shouting for another sequel with him done through CG or something
See I respect heath ledger alot for his contribution in acting industry but for me the true respect for him is to carry his legacy further and do not end it just there, Just think if the allowance to alcohol, intoxication wouldn't been there in your country then heath ledger would be here with us just like millions of countless people as well, Cause no one born a Dr*g addict from womb it starts from lower level of intoxication like cigar, tobacco, wine alcohol etc goes upto limitless because every wape ever shot is a step towards more because after some the lower level of intoxication does not affect body and does not trigger the higher state of mind means dopamine, And held you always for more and more which outcome as an always unsatisfied state of mind and body hence depression anxiety etc what not comes with it.
I know that Christopher Nolan is fascinated by soviet history, & specifically the show trials of the 20's, where radical, destabilising figures, who had fought for the revolution, suddenly became enemy number 1 in the new "utopia". Since the new leaders required stability.
I'm quite sure that the joker would have fallen into that role in tDKR. Either facing a show trial, or evading banes forces to avoid a show trial.
Perhaps he would have sought batmans help somehow. It would have been interesting to see 🙂
Source?
@@loudmouthnear
If you mean, source that Nolan is fascinated by show trials, watch tDKR again.
The scientist is literally called "Pavel".
& banes revolution is radically soviet, scarecrow conducts a showtrial, perhaps I'm assuming you are familiar with this aspect of history..
Best Joker ever
Heath Ledgend
Heath loves forever ❤
Fuck the sequel would have been the greatest movie
The funniest thing is that joker is almost the only villain who doesnt belong in arkham, but in blackgate, together with falcone. Maroni and pinguin. But the riddler , mr freeze, bane, clayface , scarecrow. Manbat. Professor pyg , killer croc, szazs, etc.. belong in arkham and not in prison. Bane and szazs are debatable. But joker knows exactally that what he is doing is considered wrong , he knows what the consequences of his deeds will be , he plays chaotic but is a masterplanner , he is a psychopath with a nihilistic/absurdistic philosophy , he might look crazy but he is sane .
In The Dark Knight original cut, there's a version when the Joker escapes and fades in the dark of the night because Nolan wanted the Joker back in the 3rd film to be the main antagonist along with Mistery Man (rumor). Sadly, Ledger passed away so Nolan had to change his cut in post prod and rewrite everything to prepare TDKR. Maybe that's why the last act is less good than the two previous ones.
That has literally never been said by Nolan or anyone else. Everything was finished filming and nothing changed in The Dark Knight.
Imagine if a continuing book series, much like the Star Wars Legends series, or Star Trek book series that continued this storyline...
Imagine a forth Dark Knight movie with Robin Blake as the bat going back to Arkham asylum for the joker 🔥 that shit could be the start of a whole new saga, kinda like the Arkham game series
I definitely feel that Blake took over the Batman gig when Bruce retired.
I think it’s not the Joker himself that’s in The Dark Knight Rises, but rather the effects he had on the end of the movie. You can tell how broken Batman is, how much Gotham turned on him over Dent’s death, and so on. You can see the effects the Joker had on the third movie, even when he’s not there.
Exactly.
The Dark Knight showed on the 18th November 2017 on Dstv.
I thought a kinda cool scene would’ve been as follows. It shows Banes goons releasing prisoners, 2 of them are approaching the end of a hallway where one cell door didn’t open with the rest of the cells, as they get closer you hear the joker laughing, the two goons look at each other for a second and just walk the other way.
That would’ve been awesome !!
Too bad Nolan will never make another superhero movie 😢
Indescribably sad about Heath Ledger..it would have been great for him to do Joker in a future one ..
They could have put Harley Quinn in the Dark Knight movie
No
Should have just recasted him rather then not having him in the movie. Doesnt matter if the actor is dead.
with who
L comment
Saving Heath Ledger would be a top priority in the time machine
Nah we actually got a lil apartment together and hes my partner in crime🥰
wish we could have gotten an arkham asylum movie w him just like the game!
No in Novel Bane and some other men are releasing people from Arkham. One of Bane man walk toward a door look in and says it's the Joker. Bane replies leave him in there. However Nolan said first script Leager's Joker would have been released and would have been judge in Bane new world order instead of Scarecrow and Nolan and Goyer said they were toying with Joker possible helping Batman beat Bane but Ledger died so it was rewritten
Why so serious? 🃏
Joker should’ve been in the next one with the riddler breaking him loose from Arkham
Since The Dark Knight Rises is set 8 years after The Dark Knight, I think honestly all the stuff the Joker did after he got arrested he probably was sent to the death penalty considering he blew up a hospital and a lot of other buildings, killed countless of people, and caused so much destruction in Gotham he was probably sentenced to the death penalty so the Joker probably died in prison between the events of The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises
Before heath ledger death the first idea is about joker back and fight again with batman
Yes thats right !
I do t k ow that I would have wanted him to be a huge part of Rises, however I would have liked to see him and Bane interact even if only for a moment
In next movie like the Batman we saw joker was in prison under asylum which means he is under arrest even if bane destroyed the asylum
I had read that the cameo of the Scarecrow as the “Judge” of the occupied Gotham was supposed to be played by The Joker.
I heard that as well. But, considering how big of a performance Heath put on in the Dark Knight I highly doubt his role would just be a cameo. Who knows ? Maybe Bane wouldn’t have even been in the 3rd had it been for Ledger’s death. We’ll never know.
In the original posters for the dark knight rises, there is one with the joker in an orange prison jumpsuit.
No there isn’t 😂
Honestly I think it's good that they didn't touch the character in The Dark Knight Rises. No one could ever match Ledger's ability, and anyway The Dark Knight is a perfect film, there's no need to tarnish it. What I like about the ending is that The Joker presumably gets captured, but in the end his fate doesn't matter because he's managed to defeat both Batman and Dent.
My head canon is he got killed by a cop while being transported after being caught.
All NOLAN had to do is shoot a back visual of green hair and purple over coat watching chaos on the street or on a rooftop laughing... no lines, don't show his face, just KNOW who we were seeing would've been PLENTY
Someones bad eye was on him for sure who doesnt like him
I think the joker was perfect the way he was, made the mob go broke and killed all the heads, got rid of batman so escolation of more and more armor and guns would end and then vanished without a trace for the viewer
AGREED
I hope they bring him back as a character in another film
Having someone that looks and sounds like him would be super cool and that's something I would love to see
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Great post
Would’ve been nice to see him in another 1, but I doubt they ever bring the character back.
Me too.
@@nicktalksbatmanI don't know. You tell me.
It's gonna be so hard to cast someone that great... After the Jack Nicolson and Heath Ledger ? Less than 1% of actors can over come that ..
Nobody can do Heath’s Joker like Heath himself
He didn't die they killed him
He also wouldn’t be able to get actor as good as him he was just to good at it
Like Brandon Lee's Death in The Crow
One of my favorite films.
@@nicktalksbatmanUnlike The Joker
No, the Joker would be sent to a federal maximum security prison where he wouldn't and couldn't escape. Remember that his crimes are also that of terrorism. You don't escape that.
Tell it to Greg Cox. Also to the comic version of the Joker. XD
"people are a lot like licorice Batman...nobody likes the black ones hahaha"
I dont see the government sparing him anyway. Especially since Batman was branded a killer that night, they just need to pin the Jokers death on him too.
Imagine they would've recast him
I was joker’d out by the end of the movie. Way too much.
It's Okay To Recast Joker After Heath Ledger
Because Heath's Joker Is So Recognizable
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Is this a Mandela Effect or something, cause i remember Nolan saying that the Joker was killed in prison years ago. Maybe im mis remembering
Ah not heath ledger
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Oh, I never would have known this if I didn’t see this video. 🙄 It’s not like we didn’t see him alive at the end of The Dark Knight.
This means, Heather joker was supposed to be in Dark knight Rises....rip Heath
i heard they locked him in a cell in Arkham and then they abandoned Arkham and let him die in there
A rumor that he escaped? He’s either there, or he isn’t.
I prefer that Joaquin phoenix Joker
He was amazing as joker !
Anyone else think maybe if the joker didn’t pass away the dark knight rises would’ve never happen till later and that after the dark knight there would’ve definitely been a part 2 with the joker bc tbh at the end of the dark knight we never did see him get arrested he could’ve escaped
From rumors I’ve seen Ledger would’ve been in the 3rd film. He would’ve been brought to trial. Not sure who the other villain would’ve been. He would’ve played a Hannibal lechter type role.
@@nicktalksbatman true there would’ve been more of the joker involved bc his character was so awesome but idt bane would’ve came tho if the joker didn’t pass away in real life
And also at the end of the dark knight rises when they show the statue of Batman that scene was suppose to be like a joker moment there like the statue was gonna have a smiling face
I think we wouldve seen the joker as the judge instead of scarecrow
I’ve read that somewhere.
Yeah, and he's part of a break out somewhere?
The ideology of not recasting a comic book character just because the actor is diseased is rather shallow. Comic book characters live on in fictional tales. Real life people actual pass away. Should be able to separate 1 from the other. Some other director will eventually bring back Joker so Nolan might as well have continued with the iconic villain in his trilogy. All Hollyweird did was butcher the NEXT Joker w Leto & D worst of them all… Joaquin Phoenix. The PITS!
So Bruce left Gotham with Selina and left the Batman life behind him only for the Joker to escape and start it all over again
the joker is alive but heath ledger wasn't...
Unfortunately, no. Had he been we could’ve seen a completely different film.
@@nicktalksbatmanabsolutely, I think Christopher Nolan even said that the original plan for dark knight rises was to have the joker in the film, sadly we never got to see what a film like that could’ve been. I wish a screenplay was made and released for a story like this lol
So, just be criminals then
So they let the Joker have greasepaint and lipstick in the nuthouse?
tdkr almost feels like another universe. the movies dont fit with batman begins and tdk imo.
Yes. Nolan said himself he wanted it to feel like a Los Angeles crime story much like the film “Heat”.
I do know this. The "Joker" is a fictional character. Do you understand how you sound?
Wait I thought Arkham wasnt canon besides the video games
When an actor dies, you recast them. Don't play this emotional nonsense. Black Panther & Joker should've been recasted.
He wasn't even needed on that movie, imagine how many "villains" would that movie have, characters like Selina Kyle were already not that developed because of other characters
It is very misunderstanding, why they don't bring Joker back.. no Jocker's charactors has been playing better, than Heat Ledjer did it... just phenomenal
Not the best Joker 🃏
How'd heath die
narcoticas
@@ContrastComparison wow thats crazy
Drug overdose
Meanwhile no problem recasting Rachel...
Yeah because she didn't win the best supporting actor award and was no where near as important as Joker
@gavindennis9988 jokers not terribly important to the overall trilogy.
@stinkfinga4918 To the Dark Knight, he's very important. He also caused Dent's actions, which directly lead to Batman being on the run and retiring. That's more important than Rachel, even in the grand scheme of things.
@@stinkfinga4918That’s the single dumbest statement I’ve ever heard all day, he is more important than Batman himself.
@@expo6877 no... no he isn't lmao
So basically you gave nothing new and just made this video to gain revenue
Nc
I make zero revenue off these vids.
I always knew he was alive.
Went from this to Jared Leto 🙄
I think that was a mistake. There are no current Hollywood actors that could of replaced Heath, but there is definitely someone out there that could of brought the same unnecessary creepy essence and vibe. They Should of done an open casting call with them having to recreate Heaths version to the T in order to be casted.
This has been the only successful DC movie and they canceled it over one actor, for shame.
Ofcource he was alive He was on Arkham asylum
Best joker of all rest are trash
Agreed
i feel like he would have got the death sentence