And that's why he's not the best robin (despite nightwing being my favorite hero) on the plus side he is the reason the best robin Tim Drake became robin.
i hate how everyone calls him dick normally one thing that batman forever did better than any batman movie was calling Grayson by his real name Richard if he was always called Richard he would’ve been a better character
Tim Drake and Ra’s Al Ghul started it, but in the show, Tim Drake found it out by watching Batman, Robin, and Batgirl’s last battle together against The Joker before Dick Grayson became Nightwing. Later on, he met Batman when his father was killed by Two-Face, and then in the Batcave, Tim met Bruce Wayne, and the two ends met.
okay but most of the scent would probably be his suit and gadgets, and knowing how batman is, hed probably find something to do to avoid that, probably something as simple as having a specific cologne or somethin
Let's not forget Bane is intelligent. Bane figuring who batman is by what he said, how he said it, and the way he moves isn't that farfetched. Let's not pretend we never heard a voice in an animation and deduce who the voice actor is just by the way they talk.
True enough but at the same time you'd think Bruce would be smart enough to consider that himself and change mannerisms in his voice and movements. Idk
I mean, the voice is a bit more understandable But how the hell do you tell a rich guy is actually batman just with what? Hand gestures? Seriously, i don't see how one could make a logical conclusion with that little information Also Batman's voice sounds different in the two voice clips, i blame the mask
Bane is actually a genius and a master-class fighter. Him figuring out Batman's identity just by analyzing Bruce Wayne's movement patterns is actually pretty spot on, if you ask me. Only a person with such an eye for things like that could catch the similarities.
It makes sense but doesn’t give Bruce enough credit, he’s definitely aware enough to not move the same way. If there were a situation that forced him to act and go off instinct I’d be more likely to buy it.
I love the part in the Dark Knight series when someone figures it out and Lucius is just like “this guy beats up criminals and your gonna try to blackmail him?” I’m paraphrasing of course.
FoxMarcello “let me get this straight,you think that your client,one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the world,is secretly a vigilante who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands...And your plan is to blackmail this person? Good luck”
One of the milita mentions this in Arkham knight, something like: ‘Did you see that photoshoot Bruce Wayne was in? Guy has definition in places I didn’t even know I had muscle’
I think bane’s deduction is the most realistic. I was once recognized in a dark theater by one of my friends from a few year ago. When didn’t come there together nor knew the other would be there. She couldn’t see what I was wearing or my face, however she called out to me from across the theater. When I came over, I asked how she knew it was me, and she said because she could tell by my walk. This isn’t the only time this has happened to me, just the first time in the almost complete dark
@Potato King I remember when I was a kid I would be able to identify when my mom was picking me up from school at the nurses office, she always wore heels and her keychain always hanged out the side of her purse, so when she walked down the hall I could hear the clacking of her heels and the jingle of the keys and new she was coming
@@SingingSealRianathat’s actually not as much of a problem because most people in the dcu think there’s only one or two robins. They think they just change costumes when they switch
Bane's thing actually makes sense- I used to recognize my soccer teammates by their gaits rather than their faces. The details of a face or jersey number are hard to pick out from across a field and our uniforms were identical, so everyone's most distinctive feature was the way they ran.
In the Dark Knight Rises, robin-cop figured out that Batman is Bruce Wayne because one time Bruce Wayne went to his orphanage and made a frowny face, and only The Batman could make a face that frowny.
@@anutshell2426 That wasn't just a guy. The guy who figured it out was the Riddler (or at least he was supposed to be before ledger died and the script for tdkr was completely changed)
Killer Moth figured out who Batman was. In fact he was the first villain too if I'm correct. Once again he's done dirty by the villains with bigger reputations than him.
There were actually a couple of times in the 1960s Batman live action show where a villain figured it out. For instance, Egghead figured out that Batman had to be rich, so he gathered up Gotham's multi-millionaires and deduced that Bruce had to be Batman by sheer process of elimination.
@@caleblambert1222 the Batman lego game had me thinking for years that killer moth was one of Batman’s biggest villains before I learned he was in fact not
@@plugshirt1684 he technically is. killer moth was created to be batman's opposite, like direct opposite not nemesis like the joker, but rather just an opposite to batman in every way
Probably factors in the materials in his suit/gadgets. Bruce's own bodily scent likely only accounts for so much of that profile, and I don't have the zoological expertise to say whether that should be enough anyway.
Killer croc has varying levels of intelligence. In a good number of stories he's basically devolved into an animal and thus wouldn't be thinking or Care about who batman is
People have a specific gate when walking, similarities with other acts of motion, so Bane’s study of Batman’s verbal and body language to be able to see through a disguise is actually pretty solid
On the topic of Bane in the comics, Bane is one of Batman's smartest and deadliest enemies, and he specializes in fighting, so it's not that far of a leap that he recognized the movements of Batman in Bruce Wayne. I mean Bane had been studying him for months and even had this whole elaborate plan where he released all the inmates in Arkham so Batman would be worn out before the fight.
It's really not that difficult even to someone who's not highly intelligent like Bane. Hang out around anyone long enough, and you'll get to know their movements and mannerisms.
Yeah but Bruce Wayne and Batman have completely different movement styles and personalities. Not just cuz Batman wears armor; but also cuz Bruce acts differently on purpose. Bane figuring it out the way he did was kind of overly meta
Director Aaron Navy even with that some mannerisms would become apparent between his two personas which to someone with a higher intellect like bane could take note of as well as speech patterns as Bruce notably does occasionally slip into the same speech patterns as he does with Batman and with how dedicated to finding out who bats was bane would have likely taken note of body language and speech and vocal patterns
I love that the Joker is a genuinely intelligent man. I bet he didn't need Batman to tell him to know who he was. I bet he thought it was child's play and just saw physical and mental traits that were similar but decided to keep the secret or block it out. Because "that would spoil the fun".
Batman is stated to be the second smartest person in the DCU (after Lex Luthor), and the Joker regularly outplays him. So yeah the Joker is probably in at least the top 10 most intelligent people in the DCU
I'd argue against Bruce Wayne being the second smartest and Lex being most intelligent in a Universe that has Riddler and Poison Ivy in it. Then you have beings like Brainiac and The Martian Manhunter...
So the DC universe is pretty loose in what is fact and not so it's mostly up to opinion as to what's believed. I like to go with The Killing Joke origin for Joker. In which he is a very brilliant chemist to work at Ace chemicals, had a great job and only quit for happiness. It's also just obvious with shit like his Joker gas. So that's points. His understanding of psychology is astounding with how he analyzes Batman, people like Riddler, and the entirety of Gotham. He is intelligent enough to see behind every curtain. In multiple comics Joker has known Batmans identity for a very long time and chooses not to acknowledge it. He has found ways into the Batcave. He has made elaborate plans and weapons. He has a very complex view of the workings of the universe. In my mind I like to think of him as the smartest. Lex Luther may have a very great understanding of mind, money, machines, chemicals, space, etc. But Joker has a deeper spark to his thinking, and delicate plan to everything and he has made it to no matter what he wins. So I put him above all. Then Batman, Lex, Bane, Tim, Dick, Damien, Strange, Riddler, etc, etc. Honestly I wish I could rant all day about a detailed analysis of The Joker. His character is so completely complex. To me what makes him the most intelligent is that he is the most aware. He knows that he is crazy and wrong and that all of this is pointless, just gears and chemicals. Nothing means anything. Even Lex is blind to his complete lunacy. Batman is the only one who may have the same awareness that nothing he's doing is making a change. It's making it worse. He's crazy. And vengeance is for nothing. All just my wierd ass ner opinions. I rank the smartest as the most aware and deep thinking. Just cause you know rocket science doesn't mean you you have a deeper understanding of reality
Paper Think he means from justice league series which the 12th-level intelligence came from merging with brainiac. I don’t think Lex is normally 12th level.
there are allot of tricks clark uses to hid his identity but my favorite one is that nobody thinks superman has a secret identity and as a result has no reason to suspect clark.
@@hamchurger4566 Correction- If Superman was that clumsy there wouldn't be a city left. He flicks his hand and most people fly through a building and from the several times he's fallen out of the sky (for various reasons other than being hit/thrown down) the ground still loses and he leaves a crater. If the clumsiness wasn't just an act people would be able to tell instantly
To me this seems the most likely & mundane reason of anyone. He studied batman a lot & bruce wayne a lot & noticed a lot of subtle similarities. Because that is how recognizing people works.
@@flinfake He also punishes Batman physically and mentally by freeing several criminals from Arkham. He picks up on the fact that Bruce has coincidentally received the same punishment as well.
Exactly. Hell, you guys do it too. Like I can easily spot my friend or family member in a crowd based on how they move and look. Idk I feel like its basically the same thing Bane did.
Bane is smarter than people give hum credit for. Yes, Venomed-out Bane is just a freakish brute, but Vanilla Bane is a great strategist/ tactician. I can totally buy that he found out about Bruce's identity because of micro movements in his posture.
For Bane on both versions, you'd be surprised on what a photographic memory can do. Sometimes there are very subtle hints sometimes where it gets the gears in your head turning whether it's body movements or voices that people have where it's very minor details, but kind of noticeable.
You forgot one of the most important aspects to Bane, that he is a professional wrestler. One of the abilities he shares that all wrestlers share is the ability to read body language in order to determine what their opponents next move will be, by studying them through matches or videos of their feats. It makes sense that somebody who is an undefeated luchador will be able to use someone's body language to understand who is who
But it makes no sense Usually when bruce is in the bat cave he wears the bat suit but without the mask Does that mean batman just walks around naked with a mask on?
im pretty sure in the comics and canon its because Ras wants bruce to take over. but he won't kill and he's all pissed off about that (and they obviously run into their scraps) but i imagine in the end he's still hoping that bruce will return and be his heir
Yeah, Ra's All Ghul just wants Batman to take over the League of Shadows by marrying his daughter, so i figure it;s very unlikely he even cares who Batman really is. Infact i'd imagine he'd see it as a massive advantage that Batman is Bruce Wayne. Since if Wayne did take over the League then their resources would grow exponentially.
@@devforfun5618 Well yes the League should be rich but there's no harm in a billionaire becoming the head of your organization, besides exposure if they get caught
4:40 to be fair you can identify people from how they move, people have their own ways of walking too. I saw a video where Gordon Ramsey disguised himself to get in cooking classes. One of the chefs identified him straight away just from the way he was standing.
Actually Bane figuring out Batman was Bruce Wayne by the way he moves is more realistic than you believe. I personally have identified a masked person who broke into a store I worked at by the way he moved on video surveillance. I told the detective working the case what I thought, but he discarded my response initially. After the 2nd break in he decided to look into the person to discover he had discarded boxes of the stolen electronics in front of his house and found more evidence in his car. When the detective came by to tell us he arrested him, I laughed and told him he was lucky that the guy was a moron for keeping evidence. Basically Bane is a well experienced fighter and would be likely to notice a person's movement patterns. Especially with someone like Batman with whom he has had many confrontations with.
I wouldn't say you can recognize someone from their movement but it's true that if you hang around someone long enough, you can pick out certain traits about them off the bat. I tried to scare my best friend once growing up so I put a mask on. When I jumped out to scare him he knew immediately it was me despite the mask. So knowing a persons height, size, and weight, and mannerisms can very well lead to identifying them. Also I can tell who a girl is that I've met before just by looking at their butt. Weird but true.
Common Robber: *gets caught by Batman* Common Robber: "you know, I've always wondered... how does batman afford all these expensive toys... Bruce?" Batman: *surprised pikachu face*
It's kinda like that with Penguin. Penguin has also solved who Batman is, but he also immediately executes anyone else who does that try to sell him the intel. Why? Imagine a Batman who never has to spend time as Bruce Wayne. A Batman without Bruce Wayne is so much scarier and so much more dangerous.
Most people think Batman is financed by someone else, the goverment or private business. Nobody thinks as Bruce Wayne as a genius or a martial arts experts, or a detective, so the money is not really a clue.
One thing I find funny is how the DC community will say, it obviously Bruce you can tell by the chin, or the cowl reveals to much of his face. Meanwhile robin/nightwing just has an eye mask to protect his identity
@@K-wars you're right, that is pretty weird. I remember in the animated green lantern show that they made fun of Hal Jordan's little eye masks because it barely hides his facial features in contrast to every other lantern that doesn't wear anything to hide their identity
2:27 -shortly after the adoption he suddenly had Robin as a sidekick, and so he put two and two together and worked out who Batman really was. *Lex Luthor.*
@@DivineXPotato It was Barbara Gordon and he was really just making a joke. Bruce Wayne invited her down into the Bat Cave to show her, then Alfred comes out ans say he's Batman.
Batman, walking through a hallway with echo in an Asylum for prisoners or smth: "Alfred, Bane knows who I am, you're not safe in the WAYNE Manor" I wonder why so many people know Batman is Bruce Wayne, I guess we'll never know
Well, that's not what happens. In Arkham Origins, the game where the clip you mention was taken from, Bane's hideout was in the sewers of Gotham (the clip happens in that hideout) and all Bane henchmen who could hear him were all KOd, so... Yeah, he could say that safely that nobody would hear
remember a comic strip. Metallo call lex luthor. He lex i rund a face diagnostic programm and figur out superman was Clark Kent. Lex: clever. not shut up and tell nobody. Metallow:What. Lex: did you think you can beat and kill him more easy becaus you stand at 4 am at his door when he was in underwear... his power came not from a Armor. Also his 8 h job mean we have 8 hourer per day to do ourer stuff with way lesser Fear that "Hero" will try to stop us.
I had always interpreted Joker knowing and not caring as a testament to how well they truly understand one another. They're two sides of the same coin, and both insane. Joker doesn't see Bruce Wayne cause Bruce doesn't actually exist, it's Batman all the way down and Bruce is the mask.
Joker from Telltale's Batman game also deduced Bruce was Batman because of the odd coincidences of Bruce and Batman being involved in the crime syndicate's plans
I like how that version of Joker just treats Bruce Wayne and Batman as the same person after he finds out the truth. The whole "Joker's conflict is with one and not the other" makes no sense, considering he has targeted Alfred on multiple occasions in the comics.
Hugo Strange’s deduction is by far the best one. Makes the most logical sense and also fits his unique traits and skills, no other villain could’ve deduced his identity like Hugo did
to be fair though, what do you really do with supermans identity once you have it. after all, supes doesnt turn his power off ever or anything, and its kinda hard to hold hostages against a guy who can move FTL. so theres really no point in knowing his identity other than to mess with his personal life, whereas with batman or iron man they literally lose all superhuman traits in their free time, because its all technology.
John Tumahab Superman is only thought of as Superman. He’s no thought of as someone who hides his identity. In Superman TAS, the first episode he explains his alien heritage to Lois.
There are some versions where Clark figures out Batman's identity before Bruce figures out Superman's identity. Usually it's due to Clark's X-Ray vision and not his intelligence though. But I think Clark could work it out if he really wanted to.
You forgot about Joker in the Telltale games. He figured it out when he noticed: -both Bruce and Batman wanted Harley’s laptop. -depending on whether or not you threw Catwoman under the bus, he’ll regard betraying her as keeping his cover (Bruce was infiltrating a group of super villains by claiming that he was following in his criminal father’s footsteps) and sacrificing himself as, well, something Batman would do. - Finally, the most obvious of them all: Bruce mysteriously vanished when the Bat-signal showed up Unlike most versions, Joker, who’s not a villain yet, is trying to be Bruce’s friend and an apprentice to Batman, so his knowledge of Batman’s secret identity is a lot more meaningful here.
I absolutely love Bruce & John Doe's story in Batman Telltale, but the laptop mistake was the only thing that I thought was "stupid". When John brings the pink laptop to Batman, you don't even have the option of playing stupid and asking what it is, Batman just takes it, no questions asked. Still an amazing game of course, Two-Face was also pretty great in it (as was everyone else, really).
@@TappedKeyboard Still hoping & praying someone picks up where they left off & makes at least a Season 3. I'd like a 4th as well but beggars can't be choosers.
@@QuickSilverKitsune I chose the villain path. I thought he was funny & even adorable in his innocent ways just like everybody else. But I know that he's like 9th or 10th on the list of Bruce's priorities. Bruce protects a city. Fights for his life. One of his best friends & Father figures died. His Daughter is an emotional wreck & is poking around & ends up killing. Alfred's health is deteriorating. Gordon & Avesta's jobs are in danger. His identity is on the line & not to mention the relationship with Selina. Fact is he kinda just crazied his way into Bruce's life. So as I played I kept my sense of duty. I had a mission & it was to go undercover. Be convincing & try not to lie. I never chose anything that called John a friend or even implied it which made for a fun time getting in his head during his dinner & card game cuz I technically never did those things to a "Friend", so I never put my finger down.
@@QuickSilverKitsune When I said "Try not to lie" I was talking about John but if you wanna extend it to the entire Pact, I can do that too or at least keep it to a minimal. There's a difference between deceit & withholding information & a flat out lie & there are options that you can pick to set it up that way. Playing & thinking as Bruce. I don't wanna push him down any path. I don't want villain Joker to kill half the city, cripple Gordon & act like an obsessed ex GF. Nothing will ever work out this easy in the world of Batman, but I just want him to get help & not have the fate of another grown man resting solely on my shoulders. You can call me out for what you see as contradictory thinking or bogus justification, but I can do the same for you. You can't tell me Gordon & Avesta's problems are not Bruce's problems or that they aren't needed. You can't call Alfred's health issues & legitimate points & concerns for his son's safety BS but turn around & coddle, mentor & take responsibility for a crazy person who you knew for less than an hour. By your own admission is too warped to live the life you live. Blackmailed his way into your life & is more of a burden than any of your allies & give me a BS symbolic connection cuz you really like John. It's easy to come across that way no matter what side you're on because it's just a matter of choosing who your loved ones are. Alfred is your Father. You're mourning someone who was like your Uncle. Tiffany & the rest of the Fox family is like your family too & you hold a way bigger responsibility to them than you do to Joker. Gordon is a trusted friend & partner who would fight as hard for you as you do for him so yeah I want him. Avesta while she did many of the same things that John did in terms of helping, she at least isn't someone who belongs in an asylum & won't unleash holy hell on the city if you part ways so yeah she's the new COO of my company. And Selina, she wasn't the target, didn't give a me a death puzzle, didn't kill in the hopes to steal a dangerous serum, so yeah I can be duty oriented, be with her, erase her record/ and or have her released because she is a loved one who helped me. Am I choosing between Joker & Catwoman in what criminal I want in my life? Is this even a contest? Both are flawed, both help, both need my influence. Difference between them is that the emotional connection is mutual with Catwoman & she's independent.And guess what? If all else fails, she's a beautiful woman, has great genetics, a pussy, can be Bruce's wife & give him a family. If there was ever a time to be "Thirsty" for somebody this would be it. Or am I supposed to be "Thirsty" for Joker?
I'll never forget in The Batman vs Dracula where Dracula had realized Bruce's identity moments before his 're-death.' That actually made the ending to that battle a bit more epic. kind of felt like in Superman the Animated series were the corrupt cop realized who Superman was seconds before he was executed.
Superman, I think he used his x-ray vision to see, I may be losing my mind, but I think most members of the Justice league knew too, at least for the JL show... All but hawk girl I’m pretty sure.
Several iterations Superman uses his X-ray vision which is CHEATING and NOT figuring it out on their own. Because Superman could just X-ray vision ANYONE who wears a mask and know who they are that's why it's CHEATING.
Jim Gordon second wife Sarah also knew who Batman was during the year one story arc. She guessed it had to be someone with enough money to have access to gadgets and suits.
Tim Drake was my favourite 'figuring out' person because the Robins before him were more on the brawn and agile side whereas Tim's strength was detective skill. That's why he's my favourite Robin.
He's also one of, if not the only, Robin to have taken on that role because he SOUGHT IT. Dick needed closure, and Jason needed reformation, but Tim? Tim recognized that Batman needed any sort of spark of levity in his life after Jason's demise( at the time) so he CHOSE to be Robin.
7:11 Consider all the times the Joker has targeted Alfred Pennyworth because of his connection to Bruce Wayne, I think the whole "His fight is with Batman, not Bruce Wayne" ridiculous. I like how the Telltale version handles this. In that version, Joker knows Batman is Bruce Wayne and treats them as if they were the same person.
There’s another character who figured out Batman’s identity: an artificial intelligence named D.A.V.E from The Batman. He used a process of elimination by examining public records of Gotham City. First, he took the male population and struck out any male who wasn’t in Batman’s rough age group. Then, he looked at medical records to determine who of those remaining men had the build and athletic skills that match Batman. Next, he looked at tax records to find any of those men who had the wealth and resources to create Batman’s gear. Finally, D.A.V.E viewed news archives to determine a motive for any of those men to become Batman. That motive is the night that Bruce’s parents have died at the hands of that criminal. D.A.V.E only showed in one episode, so I can see why you didn’t include him on this list.
This, this exactly. 2 years late to respond but for a one-off villain, D.A.V.E. as a concept could be remastered beautifully. Imagine if a character like him had appeared in something like the Arkham games, or similar high quality continuities.
@@Swapmeet421 yes he's wealth would allow this adversary of ours to afford the toys he needs- hold on was ERB referencing the ways people found out Batman's identity or am I just reading too much into it
I really just want a character in batman media to figure it out and then say "Seriously Bruce this wasn't hard. I mean you're literally the only person in Gotham with the time, resources, and motive to do this"
@@olivinator Didn't Batman wear a lead lined mask just to prevent that before they met? I could swear I remember that from the 80s Man of Steel miniseries.
@@yagsyags5694 never had a chance to read that, does Superman deduce Batman's identity in that one? in most cases Batman does not wear a lead lined mask the first time they meet and Superman X-ray visions through it.
There's also Commissioner Gordon. He's just really good it pretending. Whether it's Batman tipping him off in BB or just being that good a detective. Even the writers have acknowledged, he knows.
There's a lesson to be learned here: don't adopt a member of a famous circus act then train your adopted child to fight crime as your sidekick if you want to keep your identity secret.
In one of the Batman cartoon series, Hugo Strange had made an AI that had the collective mind of every inmate at Arkham. He released it, allowing it to make a body for itself, and eventually, he deduced who Batman was and even where the Batcave was. He waited for Batman to return, and Batman defeated him by informing and convincing him that he was not real.
6:30 TN-1 didn't just destroy Bane's memory of Batman's identity, it also took a huge effect on the rest of his memories and most notably his psyche, which can be seen not only at the end of his boss fight at the end of Arkham Origins, but also in Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.
You missed a huge one. “I once met a rich fellow who smelled of guano and pain (Homes explain) I deduce this deuce stain is bruce wayne (The billionaire?) Yes his wealth would allow this adversary of ours To afford the toys he needs (Since he has no super powers)”
There was an issue where Harley Quinn came REALLY close to figuring it out and likely would have if she had continued along the same line. She crashes a party at Wayne Manor and her henchmen ask her why she's so interested in this guy, and she said she can't really explain it but he has a "presence", and she's only met two other people like that--Joker and Batman.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that they've stated that the bullet to his head caused him to forget the information Jason Todd told him, thus preventing him from being able to figure out Batman's identity through that. Which is a shame, because I would've LOVED a scarred Penguin coming out of a coma, with the knowledge he needs to figure out Batman's identity, and then having a story around what Penguin would do knowing that Batman is Bruce Wayne.
@@darthvaderreviews6926 yes but recently in Detective Comics #1000, it's revealed that he always knew but never did anything for some lengthy convenient reason
Oooh, thanks for clarifying, I thought you were referring to that other time. Sorry for not getting the comic right, I should've known, considering that I believe it happened under Red Hood and the Outlaws.
@@mutazah Talia Al Ghul was salty about something and snitched on Batman while she was having sex with Deathstroke. In the end he took it with a grain of salt because Batmans learned to cover his tracks pretty well, so he can't tell who Bruce Wayne actually is. (Bruce Wayne having body doubles in several parts of the world at different WayneTech divisions)
Bane's is actually the most impressive, in my opinion. He's just an animal, a predator relying on the most primitive tools. He noticed someone else moved just like the thing he'd been studying
I think one comic had Bruce about to reveal, and Gordon stopped him, saying if he WANTED to know he would have by now. And while a dream by Scarecrow fear toxin, there was the time Gordon figured it out after Barbara's death.
In my own opinion, I believe Gordon could figure out Batman's identity if he wanted to, but out of respect to his friendship with and towards Batman, he never bothers to. I think he may have a bit of an idea who Bats is, but doesn't care to try and dig further.
Ooh Static Shock was a good one. By meeting Alfred in the Batcave when he was injured and later seeing Alfred with Bruce Wayne. Admittedly Batman totally did this on purpose but it was still awesome to see.
4:43 I can recognize the sounds of the footsteps of the people in my office. Good trackers can determine height and weight of subjects by their foot prints. So Bane recognizing Batman/Bruce Wayne is plausible.
Correction; when he saw Dick do the quadruple in air Summersault, Dick was still Robin. This happened a bit under two years after the night at the circus. Tim figured the rest out soon after at only 6 years old. He kept the secret until after Jason's death, when he realized Bruce was spiralling out of control. Which was when he went to Wayne Manor, told Alfred what he knew and how, took Dick and Jason's Robin costume, and dressed in it to shock Bruce into seeing the path he was going down. He knew the truth LONG before Dick became Nightwing.
Why would Bruce tell JOKER that he is Batman? Later the whole family got captured of course... Bruce: hey uhm...you know...im Batman...im having enough of Damian these days...you know the new Robin. So uhm...take care of him... Joker:...
He didn't TELL the Joker who he was. Batman found a Joker card in the Batcave and thought the Joker had figured it out. So he went to Arkham Asylum to confront the Joker as Bruce Wayne. He showed the Joker the card, but the Joker had no idea how Bruce Wayne got it from Batman, because he's so crazy he doesn't want to know the truth, as the video describes. When the Joker went after the Batman family, he captured them all as their super hero identities, not as their civilian ones.
You forgot Egghead. Reasoning that the enormous expense of being Batman would point to only one of three Gotham City millionaires who would be of the right age as Batman, and deducing that two could not be the Caped Crusader (one had a French accent, which Batman does not have, and the other is left-handed, whereas Batman is right-handed), he concluded that the last, Bruce Wayne, must be Batman.
Heck, why does everyone forget about Coleman Reese (appearing in "The Dark Knight")? Reese was an employee of Wayne Enterprises who figured out the Batman's identity and tried to profit off it. Identifying numerous irregularities within Wayne Enterprises financials, Reese's private investigations led to him discovering details regarding the Batman's equipment suppliers. Putting it all together, Reese deduced that Bruce Wayne had to be the Batman. Reese met with Lucius Fox, Wayne Enterprises CEO, to tell Fox that he knew the identity of the Batman, had proof, and offered to keep silent for $10 million a year. Fox reminded Reese of Wayne's immense wealth and connections with the veiled threat that, if need be, Reese could be "disappeared" very quickly.
A few you missed: 1. Superman in the Animated Series. Unlike most versions of Superman, who was told by Bruce Wayne as part of joining the justice League, the Superman of the Animated Series found out Batman's identity by using his X-ray vision to see through Batman's cowl. Of course, Batman immediately returned the favor by sneaking a tracking device on Superman and following Supes home. 2. Barbara Gordon in The Batman cartoon series: Barbara Gordon saw Bruce Wayne and almost immediately figured out he was Batman because Bruce had the resources to pull it off, the same muscled physique, and even the same distinctive chin. 3. D.A.V.E. in The Batman: D.A.V.E. was a robot designed by Hugo Strange to be the perfect supervillain. D.A.V.E. (who thought he was a human who had put his brain in a robot body) figured out that Bruce was Batman by first narrowing down the adult men of Batman's likely age, then figured out which one of those are wealthy enough to be Batman via tax records, and then figured out that Bruce was the only one of the possible candidates with a tragic backstory. 4. Owlman in the comics: In Owlman's home universe, he was Bruce Wayne's brother. Upon meeting Batman he was able to easily put two and two together. 5. That Accountant from the Dark Knight: Some random accountant in the Dark Knight realized that Wayne tech's seemingly dead R&D department was spending a LOT of money. He looked around and found the Batmobile prototype in the old files. He tried to use this to blackmail Batman, but Lucious Fox convinced the accountant that would be a really, REALLY dumb idea. (Note, the next two characters found out Batman's identity nearly by accident, but I will mention them anyway). 6. Aunt Harriet from the comics: Possibly the stupidest character to figure it out, Aunt Harriet was basically Bruce's housekeeper in the early days of the comic. At one point she stumbles upon the Batcave and realizes Batman's identity. However, Bruce and Dick were able to convince Harriet that Batman is just a good friend who is allowed to stay in the basement. She was actually convinced by that lie. 7. Killer Moth in the comics: In a similar case to Aunt Harriet, Killer Moth got plastic surgery to look like Bruce Wayne and snuck into Wayne Manor, discovering the Batcave. However, before the Killer Moth could really do anything with this knowledge, he was shot in the head, and like Bane/the Riddler lost all memory of what he learned.
Joseph Attwell I believe she compared Bruce Wayne on tv to Batman in person and put two and two together due to her ability to read people’s body language
There was this thing in "The Batman" where an AI (I think made by Hugo Strange) figured it out by simple deduction: it first reasoned that Batman had to be Gotham-based (obviously.) Then it eliminated the women in Gotham. Then it ran down the list of those who could be Batman by possible age, possible height, possible weight, build, etc. The list was still a bit long by then, so it did what R'as Al Ghul did and narrowed it down to two people who could possibly have the amount of wealth required to be Batman. After that, the only question was who had to motive to dress up in an edgy costume and go beat up muggers in dark alleys every night. Ding ding ding. Chicken dinner time.
In my school vr game, Goalius learned it through ege colour and blood (the eye and blood was done by Susamaru where she took a photo of him and sneakily took his blood who then gave Goalius and during the Dark knight boss fight Goalius bite through his armour and saw his eyes and IMMEDIATELY identified him)
The joker captured Tim Drake and he tourtured and mind washed him into thinking he is the Joker's son and while tourturing he knew from Tim that Bruce Wayne is Batman
So what you're telling me was Dick Grayson was a horrible investment on Batman's part and led to 3 villains figuring out his identity
RIP
Pretty much
Damn it Dick
And that's why he's not the best robin (despite nightwing being my favorite hero) on the plus side he is the reason the best robin Tim Drake became robin.
His name says it all.. what a dick XD
i hate how everyone calls him dick normally one thing that batman forever did better than any batman movie was calling Grayson by his real name Richard if he was always called Richard he would’ve been a better character
Jesus. Dick Grayson is really hurting the whole Secret Identity thing. Lol
Tim Drake and Ra’s Al Ghul started it, but in the show, Tim Drake found it out by watching Batman, Robin, and Batgirl’s last battle together against The Joker before Dick Grayson became Nightwing. Later on, he met Batman when his father was killed by Two-Face, and then in the Batcave, Tim met Bruce Wayne, and the two ends met.
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Also Tim Drake. In the animated series Joker tortures Tim into spilling Batman's secrets along with his secret identity
Him and Nightwing
Lol Batman should have stuck with his "I work alone" thing
If there's a Killer Croc who manages to get into the city and finds Bruce Wayne, then he'll know who Batman is because he knows Batman's scent.
That's brilliant
Unless he only smells the outfit scent
It’s that aftershave.
Danny Hernandez thats funny
okay but most of the scent would probably be his suit and gadgets, and knowing how batman is, hed probably find something to do to avoid that, probably something as simple as having a specific cologne or somethin
Let's not forget Bane is intelligent.
Bane figuring who batman is by what he said, how he said it, and the way he moves isn't that farfetched.
Let's not pretend we never heard a voice in an animation and deduce who the voice actor is just by the way they talk.
That’s a really smart point I recognize a lot of voice actors by hearing the characters they play
True enough but at the same time you'd think Bruce would be smart enough to consider that himself and change mannerisms in his voice and movements. Idk
It’s definitely not poor writing, lazy writing maybe but not poor.
I mean, the voice is a bit more understandable
But how the hell do you tell a rich guy is actually batman just with what? Hand gestures?
Seriously, i don't see how one could make a logical conclusion with that little information
Also
Batman's voice sounds different in the two voice clips, i blame the mask
Jose Martinez I’m assuming people don’t hear Batman’s voice too often tio
Ra’s al ghul has the most common sense in dc comics history lol. Of course Batman has to be rich!
Legend Harper And there’s also tons of rich people in the world. Lex Luther, Oliver Queen, Bruce Wayne, Maxwell Lord, Simon Stagg, Ted Kord...
@@hulkinglasses7174 but we're talking specifically Gotham where Batman originated he's the only logical answer to the who is Batman question
Legend Harper you clearly didn’t get my joke that all rich people are either vigilantes or evil
@@hulkinglasses7174 ah nice one
It could also be any athletic/ex-military guy with a rich patron/sponsor.
Bane is actually a genius and a master-class fighter. Him figuring out Batman's identity just by analyzing Bruce Wayne's movement patterns is actually pretty spot on, if you ask me. Only a person with such an eye for things like that could catch the similarities.
Yes. Plus I'd assume Bruce being rich also helped him figure this out too even though it's not mentioned.
It makes sense but doesn’t give Bruce enough credit, he’s definitely aware enough to not move the same way. If there were a situation that forced him to act and go off instinct I’d be more likely to buy it.
Ppl be shittin on bane not knowing dude was smart asf since he’d be smuggling in books in prison and studying all sorts of martial arts
Thank you
Actually in most storylines he’s as dumb as a rock
I love the part in the Dark Knight series when someone figures it out and Lucius is just like “this guy beats up criminals and your gonna try to blackmail him?” I’m paraphrasing of course.
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“let me get this straight,you think that your client,one of the most powerful and wealthiest men in the world,is secretly a vigilante who spends his nights beating criminals to a pulp with his bare hands...And your plan is to blackmail this person?
Good luck”
Applied sciences
@@CristianChirita2234 "Don't tell me you didn't recognise your baby, pancaking cop cars on the evening news." *slaps* *picture* *of* *burgundy* *1983* *VW* *golf* *GTI* *on* *desk*
@@noti7510 lol alpahahawk
It was Mr. Reese (mysteries). It was a nod to the Riddler.
I would've just asked Batman who he is. No one else has done it
I am Batman!
i would say hey batman if your bruce wayne you gotta tell me its the law
Hey batman! If you don't tell me your identity you are gay
Boxerchester09 Are you fucking 10? Who in gods name thinks the same thought as you and be over the age of 10? No one.
Hey batman, tell me your identity now or i'll die of ligma!
“Bruce I noticed you’re always up at night and built like a refrigerator. Kinda like Batman.”
I’m sorry that built like a refrigerator caught me off guard
One of the milita mentions this in Arkham knight, something like:
‘Did you see that photoshoot Bruce Wayne was in? Guy has definition in places I didn’t even know I had muscle’
@@Data-ExpungededYou know who else is built like a refrigerator? Nora Fries.
Victor Fries: I wear a suit one size smaller. It shows up my abs.
(or something like that by Arnold Schwarzenegger)
I'M NOT WEARING HOCKEY PADS!!!
You forgot the one that figured it out before anyone else:
Alfred
No. Bruce wayne
@@haydenwhitlatch177 who's Bruce Wayne oh you mean Batman's secret identity
@@haydenwhitlatch177 I Think u lost this
*Brain*
Bane was the first lmao
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 @Justine De Castro I hate to be that guy, but.... r/woooosh
I think bane’s deduction is the most realistic. I was once recognized in a dark theater by one of my friends from a few year ago. When didn’t come there together nor knew the other would be there. She couldn’t see what I was wearing or my face, however she called out to me from across the theater. When I came over, I asked how she knew it was me, and she said because she could tell by my walk. This isn’t the only time this has happened to me, just the first time in the almost complete dark
Wow she's gonna be the greatest threat to you if you decide to become batman
Maybe you just walk like a freak
@Potato King I remember when I was a kid I would be able to identify when my mom was picking me up from school at the nurses office, she always wore heels and her keychain always hanged out the side of her purse, so when she walked down the hall I could hear the clacking of her heels and the jingle of the keys and new she was coming
You must walk weird bro. This happens often to you, but no one else.
@@novathepug6692 Not really
Wait so how does Lex Luthor, the canonically smartest person in the DC universe, figure out Batman's identity before Superman's?
Because who the hell knows who Clark Kent is. Bruce Wayne on the other hand is famous
The canon explanation is that lex Luther could not possible comprehend someone like super man pretending to be someone like Clark Kent
@@thepope2412 yteah lmfao he can't imagine a god choosing to be so meek
@@sangun123
near-godly semi-egotistical superhero,
and
a reporter who lives a very casual life
No one even knows that Superman has a secret identity. So no one ever tries to look.
One of the thugs in Batman: Arkham Knight accidently figured out and joked about it, that Bruce Wayne was Batman lol.
PLUX4 oh ya I was flying around and heard him say that then another thug said you’ve just taken to many kicks to the head
Arkham Knight already knew because he is Jason Todd
GaspX ya but he didn’t tell his henchmen and I think it was penguin thugs
Gaspa GT You read the sentence wrong lmao
Oh yeah when he says something like “Bruce Wayne hit really hard back in Arkham City. Seemed familiar”
Alt. Title: Turns out making a 12 yr old a vigilante IS a liability, but not in the way most people assume
Also adopting half an orphanages and having the exact Same number of Sidekicks does Not help
@@SingingSealRianathat’s actually not as much of a problem because most people in the dcu think there’s only one or two robins. They think they just change costumes when they switch
Bane's thing actually makes sense- I used to recognize my soccer teammates by their gaits rather than their faces. The details of a face or jersey number are hard to pick out from across a field and our uniforms were identical, so everyone's most distinctive feature was the way they ran.
Or, you know, maybe where they play?
@@crippledcow2235I would say they run more often than they do, say, a particularly unique way of dribbling.
That's pretty cool imo
In the Dark Knight Rises, robin-cop figured out that Batman is Bruce Wayne because one time Bruce Wayne went to his orphanage and made a frowny face, and only The Batman could make a face that frowny.
well obviously, how was he SUPPOSED to figure it out?
@@dylang1138, the same way a guy in The Dark Knight figured it out. Put two and two together.
>:(
adamkirby1 a clip of him was in the video
@@anutshell2426 That wasn't just a guy. The guy who figured it out was the Riddler (or at least he was supposed to be before ledger died and the script for tdkr was completely changed)
Killer Moth figured out who Batman was. In fact he was the first villain too if I'm correct. Once again he's done dirty by the villains with bigger reputations than him.
There were actually a couple of times in the 1960s Batman live action show where a villain figured it out. For instance, Egghead figured out that Batman had to be rich, so he gathered up Gotham's multi-millionaires and deduced that Bruce had to be Batman by sheer process of elimination.
Glad to know I'm not the only killer moth fan.
@@caleblambert1222 the Batman lego game had me thinking for years that killer moth was one of Batman’s biggest villains before I learned he was in fact not
@@plugshirt1684those games were great
@@plugshirt1684 he technically is. killer moth was created to be batman's opposite, like direct opposite
not nemesis like the joker, but rather just an opposite to batman in every way
Why hasn't Killer Croc figured it out yet?
His sense of smell is unmatched and has smelled Batman from over a mile away in the sewers
Batman is always at least 4 steps ahead of things, he probably bates in a different cologne every day.
Probably factors in the materials in his suit/gadgets. Bruce's own bodily scent likely only accounts for so much of that profile, and I don't have the zoological expertise to say whether that should be enough anyway.
Killer croc also may not care in a lot of canons
Killer croc has varying levels of intelligence. In a good number of stories he's basically devolved into an animal and thus wouldn't be thinking or Care about who batman is
Bat-Deodorant
People have a specific gate when walking, similarities with other acts of motion, so Bane’s study of Batman’s verbal and body language to be able to see through a disguise is actually pretty solid
I mean he used a tic as proof.
*gait (just fyi)
not to mention wayne walks with a slight limp in most iterations of him, since he's had so many injuries
oh, so just like Micro figures out Frank Castle is still alive in Punisher season 1
checks out
On the topic of Bane in the comics, Bane is one of Batman's smartest and deadliest enemies, and he specializes in fighting, so it's not that far of a leap that he recognized the movements of Batman in Bruce Wayne. I mean Bane had been studying him for months and even had this whole elaborate plan where he released all the inmates in Arkham so Batman would be worn out before the fight.
It's really not that difficult even to someone who's not highly intelligent like Bane. Hang out around anyone long enough, and you'll get to know their movements and mannerisms.
Yeah but Bruce Wayne and Batman have completely different movement styles and personalities. Not just cuz Batman wears armor; but also cuz Bruce acts differently on purpose. Bane figuring it out the way he did was kind of overly meta
Max Littlewood body language can give almost anyone away
@@lorelei2892 Unless it's not the same body language
Director Aaron Navy even with that some mannerisms would become apparent between his two personas which to someone with a higher intellect like bane could take note of as well as speech patterns as Bruce notably does occasionally slip into the same speech patterns as he does with Batman and with how dedicated to finding out who bats was bane would have likely taken note of body language and speech and vocal patterns
I love that the Joker is a genuinely intelligent man. I bet he didn't need Batman to tell him to know who he was. I bet he thought it was child's play and just saw physical and mental traits that were similar but decided to keep the secret or block it out. Because "that would spoil the fun".
"Without you, Batman, crime has no punchline."
He worked it out as soon as he saw the car and tech.
He's known since their first meeting
Batman is stated to be the second smartest person in the DCU (after Lex Luthor), and the Joker regularly outplays him. So yeah the Joker is probably in at least the top 10 most intelligent people in the DCU
I'd argue against Bruce Wayne being the second smartest and Lex being most intelligent in a Universe that has Riddler and Poison Ivy in it.
Then you have beings like Brainiac and The Martian Manhunter...
So the DC universe is pretty loose in what is fact and not so it's mostly up to opinion as to what's believed. I like to go with The Killing Joke origin for Joker. In which he is a very brilliant chemist to work at Ace chemicals, had a great job and only quit for happiness. It's also just obvious with shit like his Joker gas. So that's points. His understanding of psychology is astounding with how he analyzes Batman, people like Riddler, and the entirety of Gotham. He is intelligent enough to see behind every curtain. In multiple comics Joker has known Batmans identity for a very long time and chooses not to acknowledge it. He has found ways into the Batcave. He has made elaborate plans and weapons. He has a very complex view of the workings of the universe. In my mind I like to think of him as the smartest. Lex Luther may have a very great understanding of mind, money, machines, chemicals, space, etc. But Joker has a deeper spark to his thinking, and delicate plan to everything and he has made it to no matter what he wins. So I put him above all. Then Batman, Lex, Bane, Tim, Dick, Damien, Strange, Riddler, etc, etc. Honestly I wish I could rant all day about a detailed analysis of The Joker. His character is so completely complex. To me what makes him the most intelligent is that he is the most aware. He knows that he is crazy and wrong and that all of this is pointless, just gears and chemicals. Nothing means anything. Even Lex is blind to his complete lunacy. Batman is the only one who may have the same awareness that nothing he's doing is making a change. It's making it worse. He's crazy. And vengeance is for nothing. All just my wierd ass ner opinions. I rank the smartest as the most aware and deep thinking. Just cause you know rocket science doesn't mean you you have a deeper understanding of reality
Seems like adopting a kid is a quick way to get your identity figured out.
Destroy the child.
I never hesitate to kill a child
@@gamergrill4933 jesus fucking christ 😱
@@tappavapahvi6184 Corrupt them all.
Suddenly, adoption rates drop to 0 and vigilantism skyrockets to 100
I would be more surprised if Lex Luthor DIDN'T figure out who Batman is, considering he is the only one on the planet with a 12th-level intelligence
where can i find a tier list with all the levels?
Paper yeah i wanna know too
Paper Think he means from justice league series which the 12th-level intelligence came from merging with brainiac. I don’t think Lex is normally 12th level.
Huff -an- Puff he is
Justin. Y. Where did you find said information
Dick Grayson is possibly the only kid his age who is able to do those crazy acrobatics with ease.
"GeEe I WOnDer wHo roBiN iS???"
To be fair, Dick Grayson isn't exactly as popular as someone like Bruce Wayne.
The US gymnastics team is all 12-20 years old.
but that’s not something many would know regarding both Dick and Robin
batman: **wears a full costume and cowl**
everyone: that's bruce wayne!
superman: **wears glasses**
everyone: hahaha, it's that lame dork clark
there are allot of tricks clark uses to hid his identity but my favorite one is that nobody thinks superman has a secret identity and as a result has no reason to suspect clark.
@@fictionarch my favourite is that Clark is a stumbling idiot and superman would never be that clumsy
@@fictionarch my favourite is parting his hair on the opposite side as Clark
@@fictionarch Superman's mask is identity fraud.
@@hamchurger4566 Correction- If Superman was that clumsy there wouldn't be a city left. He flicks his hand and most people fly through a building and from the several times he's fallen out of the sky (for various reasons other than being hit/thrown down) the ground still loses and he leaves a crater. If the clumsiness wasn't just an act people would be able to tell instantly
As a fighter bane would probably be analysing others posture along with the way they move even if he did it subconsciously
Also depending on the version he is a genius
To me this seems the most likely & mundane reason of anyone. He studied batman a lot & bruce wayne a lot & noticed a lot of subtle similarities. Because that is how recognizing people works.
@@flinfake He also punishes Batman physically and mentally by freeing several criminals from Arkham. He picks up on the fact that Bruce has coincidentally received the same punishment as well.
Exactly. Hell, you guys do it too. Like I can easily spot my friend or family member in a crowd based on how they move and look. Idk I feel like its basically the same thing Bane did.
Bane is smarter than people give hum credit for. Yes, Venomed-out Bane is just a freakish brute, but Vanilla Bane is a great strategist/ tactician. I can totally buy that he found out about Bruce's identity because of micro movements in his posture.
For Bane on both versions, you'd be surprised on what a photographic memory can do. Sometimes there are very subtle hints sometimes where it gets the gears in your head turning whether it's body movements or voices that people have where it's very minor details, but kind of noticeable.
"Hey, I'm batman. Wanna know my secret identity??"
John Lee HISHE is the best lol
I am Groot.
Jacob Goldman im batman
Raven Boii I am Steve Rogers
i'm Mary Poppins y'all
“Alfred you’re not safe at Wayne manor.” “Well not now!”
Come on Batman you’re way smarter than this
You forgot one of the most important aspects to Bane, that he is a professional wrestler. One of the abilities he shares that all wrestlers share is the ability to read body language in order to determine what their opponents next move will be, by studying them through matches or videos of their feats. It makes sense that somebody who is an undefeated luchador will be able to use someone's body language to understand who is who
Wait...
Batman was Bruce Wayne all along !?!?!
No wonder we saw him so much in the bat cave !
😂😂😂
What a great plot twist,i'm still shocked about it
@@josephochoa9861 i thought batman was alfred
But it makes no sense
Usually when bruce is in the bat cave he wears the bat suit but without the mask
Does that mean batman just walks around naked with a mask on?
This is the dialogue I’d expect with Joker if he somehow found out, if his psychosis wasn’t so damn inconvenient.
It's also always liked how Ra's has been an enemy that follows bro code
im pretty sure in the comics and canon its because Ras wants bruce to take over.
but he won't kill and he's all pissed off about that (and they obviously run into their scraps) but i imagine in the end he's still hoping that bruce will return and be his heir
Except in Batman begins though.
Yeah, Ra's All Ghul just wants Batman to take over the League of Shadows by marrying his daughter, so i figure it;s very unlikely he even cares who Batman really is. Infact i'd imagine he'd see it as a massive advantage that Batman is Bruce Wayne. Since if Wayne did take over the League then their resources would grow exponentially.
@@Noobie2k7 arent they already absurdly rich due to rulling the underworld ?
@@devforfun5618 Well yes the League should be rich but there's no harm in a billionaire becoming the head of your organization, besides exposure if they get caught
The fact that in Arkham knight riddler refuses to believe Batman is Bruce Wayne, is crazy, it’s completely logical
Ra'Al Ghoul worked as Income Tax officer for past 250 years, what more did you expected.
But did he catch yoshi's tax evasion?
@@Codboxx probably not, that fucker can hide everything.
Batman is Fitt
Batman is Rich
Batman has kids
Who else is fitt, rich, and paternal in Gotham City??
Your Mom
😲👕OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Uhh.....Slade Wilson?
PixelatedFun that’s star city
Izuku Midoriya I don’t think he’s Gotham
1. Ra'as Al Ghul
2. Salvatore Maroni
3. Carmine Falcone
4. Bruce Wayne
4:40 to be fair you can identify people from how they move, people have their own ways of walking too. I saw a video where Gordon Ramsey disguised himself to get in cooking classes. One of the chefs identified him straight away just from the way he was standing.
Actually Bane figuring out Batman was Bruce Wayne by the way he moves is more realistic than you believe. I personally have identified a masked person who broke into a store I worked at by the way he moved on video surveillance. I told the detective working the case what I thought, but he discarded my response initially. After the 2nd break in he decided to look into the person to discover he had discarded boxes of the stolen electronics in front of his house and found more evidence in his car. When the detective came by to tell us he arrested him, I laughed and told him he was lucky that the guy was a moron for keeping evidence.
Basically Bane is a well experienced fighter and would be likely to notice a person's movement patterns. Especially with someone like Batman with whom he has had many confrontations with.
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SnazyToons oh man i was i was le epic redditor like you calling out even slightly out of the ordinary stories on the internet
@@axelvids893 lmao I was just scrolling by and found this comment and the way he worded it makes it sounds hella fake, its not the story itself
@@axelvids893 i dont even use reddit
I wouldn't say you can recognize someone from their movement but it's true that if you hang around someone long enough, you can pick out certain traits about them off the bat. I tried to scare my best friend once growing up so I put a mask on. When I jumped out to scare him he knew immediately it was me despite the mask. So knowing a persons height, size, and weight, and mannerisms can very well lead to identifying them. Also I can tell who a girl is that I've met before just by looking at their butt. Weird but true.
Common Robber: *gets caught by Batman*
Common Robber: "you know, I've always wondered... how does batman afford all these expensive toys... Bruce?"
Batman: *surprised pikachu face*
Traumatic brain injuries that you can come back from seem to be enough to deter most criminals though.
Batman: "sorry punk, i'm adopting ya'."
tbh, it doesn't need to be Bruce, just someone financed by Bruce, which still would be pretty obvious though
By that logic, Lex Luthor could easily be Batman.
@@lllKXlll I think I heard in the comics, Bruce was publicly known/revealed to fund Batman.
Batman's identity is safe with his enemies because they know if they were to reveal who he is, they wouldn't be able to challenge him anymore.
It's kinda like that with Penguin. Penguin has also solved who Batman is, but he also immediately executes anyone else who does that try to sell him the intel. Why? Imagine a Batman who never has to spend time as Bruce Wayne. A Batman without Bruce Wayne is so much scarier and so much more dangerous.
Only Bruce Wayne can afford the things Batman has
*i wonder who Batman is*
In the Dark night movies, I think it's well done. Bruce act like such an asshole, no one would suspect him to be Batman.
Alot of people suggest Wayne Enterprises supply Batman, but don't think he would be him
Probably Clark Kent that’s my guess
Most people think Batman is financed by someone else, the goverment or private business. Nobody thinks as Bruce Wayne as a genius or a martial arts experts, or a detective, so the money is not really a clue.
@@romanarana on a reporter's salary? Right....
Nine year old Tim Drake: hold my juice box.
So what you're saying is, Dick Grayson needs to learn how to protect his identity because he's effing up Batman's as well 😂
One thing I find funny is how the DC community will say, it obviously Bruce you can tell by the chin, or the cowl reveals to much of his face. Meanwhile robin/nightwing just has an eye mask to protect his identity
@@K-wars you're right, that is pretty weird. I remember in the animated green lantern show that they made fun of Hal Jordan's little eye masks because it barely hides his facial features in contrast to every other lantern that doesn't wear anything to hide their identity
@@steveweast475 Well the other green lanterns likely do not care about their secret identity. Most are aliens.
2:27
-shortly after the adoption he suddenly had Robin as a sidekick, and so he put two and two together and worked out who Batman really was.
*Lex Luthor.*
Quoting done right. 🤣
Batman was Lex Luthor? 😮
@@DivineXPotato It was Barbara Gordon and he was really just making a joke. Bruce Wayne invited her down into the Bat Cave to show her, then Alfred comes out ans say he's Batman.
I personally loved tim drake robin figuring out Bruce Wayne is Batman
Batman, walking through a hallway with echo in an Asylum for prisoners or smth: "Alfred, Bane knows who I am, you're not safe in the WAYNE Manor"
I wonder why so many people know Batman is Bruce Wayne, I guess we'll never know
Alfred must be working part time
Well, that's not what happens. In Arkham Origins, the game where the clip you mention was taken from, Bane's hideout was in the sewers of Gotham (the clip happens in that hideout) and all Bane henchmen who could hear him were all KOd, so... Yeah, he could say that safely that nobody would hear
@@juanaguilera804 Oh, okay, that's interesting
Ben Shapiro FIGURES Out Batman's Identity With FACTS And LOGIC
Tristan Foss Facts don’t care about hurting Batman’s identity.
Lol you mean the puppet?
Did you know his wife's a doctor?
Talking about him out of context is antisemitic
@arab man I don't necessarily agree with shapiro, but wouldn't saying EVERYONE who agrees with him is arrogant make you arrogant yourself?
Meanwhile Lex Luthor created a computer exclusively to figure out Superman's identity then refused to believe it.
remember a comic strip.
Metallo call lex luthor.
He lex i rund a face diagnostic programm and figur out superman was Clark Kent.
Lex: clever. not shut up and tell nobody.
Metallow:What.
Lex: did you think you can beat and kill him more easy becaus you stand at 4 am at his door when he was in underwear... his power came not from a Armor.
Also his 8 h job mean we have 8 hourer per day to do ourer stuff with way lesser Fear that "Hero" will try to stop us.
I had always interpreted Joker knowing and not caring as a testament to how well they truly understand one another. They're two sides of the same coin, and both insane. Joker doesn't see Bruce Wayne cause Bruce doesn't actually exist, it's Batman all the way down and Bruce is the mask.
The best part of the Dark Knight Rises is when Batman cryptically reveals his identity to the commissioner by alluding to an old memory.
In the comics it has been hinted at various time Gordon does know the secret.
Joker from Telltale's Batman game also deduced Bruce was Batman because of the odd coincidences of Bruce and Batman being involved in the crime syndicate's plans
He also knows that Bruce Wayne is Batman when Bruce left him right at the time the bat signal was on
I like how that version of Joker just treats Bruce Wayne and Batman as the same person after he finds out the truth.
The whole "Joker's conflict is with one and not the other" makes no sense, considering he has targeted Alfred on multiple occasions in the comics.
Hugo Strange’s deduction is by far the best one. Makes the most logical sense and also fits his unique traits and skills, no other villain could’ve deduced his identity like Hugo did
Very few characters ever actuality deduced Batman's real identity, he's Batman.
Poor Batman. By comparison, nobody's figured out Clark Kent is Superman and he doesn't even bother with a mask. :(
to be fair though, what do you really do with supermans identity once you have it. after all, supes doesnt turn his power off ever or anything, and its kinda hard to hold hostages against a guy who can move FTL. so theres really no point in knowing his identity other than to mess with his personal life, whereas with batman or iron man they literally lose all superhuman traits in their free time, because its all technology.
His glasses are a real Mask depending on which Superman it is, as they are made from Memory Erasing Pink Kryptonite in some universes
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Superman is only thought of as Superman. He’s no thought of as someone who hides his identity. In Superman TAS, the first episode he explains his alien heritage to Lois.
@@BlueNEXUSGaming lol
Note to self: Be poor. - Bruce Wayne
There are some versions where Clark figures out Batman's identity before Bruce figures out Superman's identity. Usually it's due to Clark's X-Ray vision and not his intelligence though. But I think Clark could work it out if he really wanted to.
Batman: Sees woman
Want to know my secret identity?
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You forgot about Joker in the Telltale games.
He figured it out when he noticed:
-both Bruce and Batman wanted Harley’s laptop.
-depending on whether or not you threw Catwoman under the bus, he’ll regard betraying her as keeping his cover (Bruce was infiltrating a group of super villains by claiming that he was following in his criminal father’s footsteps) and sacrificing himself as, well, something Batman would do.
- Finally, the most obvious of them all: Bruce mysteriously vanished when the Bat-signal showed up
Unlike most versions, Joker, who’s not a villain yet, is trying to be Bruce’s friend and an apprentice to Batman, so his knowledge of Batman’s secret identity is a lot more meaningful here.
Loved that series, its a shame theyre not making any more
I absolutely love Bruce & John Doe's story in Batman Telltale, but the laptop mistake was the only thing that I thought was "stupid".
When John brings the pink laptop to Batman, you don't even have the option of playing stupid and asking what it is, Batman just takes it, no questions asked.
Still an amazing game of course, Two-Face was also pretty great in it (as was everyone else, really).
@@TappedKeyboard Still hoping & praying someone picks up where they left off & makes at least a Season 3. I'd like a 4th as well but beggars can't be choosers.
@@QuickSilverKitsune I chose the villain path. I thought he was funny & even adorable in his innocent ways just like everybody else. But I know that he's like 9th or 10th on the list of Bruce's priorities. Bruce protects a city. Fights for his life. One of his best friends & Father figures died. His Daughter is an emotional wreck & is poking around & ends up killing. Alfred's health is deteriorating. Gordon & Avesta's jobs are in danger. His identity is on the line & not to mention the relationship with Selina. Fact is he kinda just crazied his way into Bruce's life. So as I played I kept my sense of duty. I had a mission & it was to go undercover. Be convincing & try not to lie. I never chose anything that called John a friend or even implied it which made for a fun time getting in his head during his dinner & card game cuz I technically never did those things to a "Friend", so I never put my finger down.
@@QuickSilverKitsune When I said "Try not to lie" I was talking about John but if you wanna extend it to the entire Pact, I can do that too or at least keep it to a minimal. There's a difference between deceit & withholding information & a flat out lie & there are options that you can pick to set it up that way. Playing & thinking as Bruce. I don't wanna push him down any path. I don't want villain Joker to kill half the city, cripple Gordon & act like an obsessed ex GF. Nothing will ever work out this easy in the world of Batman, but I just want him to get help & not have the fate of another grown man resting solely on my shoulders. You can call me out for what you see as contradictory thinking or bogus justification, but I can do the same for you. You can't tell me Gordon & Avesta's problems are not Bruce's problems or that they aren't needed. You can't call Alfred's health issues & legitimate points & concerns for his son's safety BS but turn around & coddle, mentor & take responsibility for a crazy person who you knew for less than an hour. By your own admission is too warped to live the life you live. Blackmailed his way into your life & is more of a burden than any of your allies & give me a BS symbolic connection cuz you really like John. It's easy to come across that way no matter what side you're on because it's just a matter of choosing who your loved ones are. Alfred is your Father. You're mourning someone who was like your Uncle. Tiffany & the rest of the Fox family is like your family too & you hold a way bigger responsibility to them than you do to Joker. Gordon is a trusted friend & partner who would fight as hard for you as you do for him so yeah I want him. Avesta while she did many of the same things that John did in terms of helping, she at least isn't someone who belongs in an asylum & won't unleash holy hell on the city if you part ways so yeah she's the new COO of my company. And Selina, she wasn't the target, didn't give a me a death puzzle, didn't kill in the hopes to steal a dangerous serum, so yeah I can be duty oriented, be with her, erase her record/ and or have her released because she is a loved one who helped me. Am I choosing between Joker & Catwoman in what criminal I want in my life? Is this even a contest? Both are flawed, both help, both need my influence. Difference between them is that the emotional connection is mutual with Catwoman & she's independent.And guess what? If all else fails, she's a beautiful woman, has great genetics, a pussy, can be Bruce's wife & give him a family. If there was ever a time to be "Thirsty" for somebody this would be it. Or am I supposed to be "Thirsty" for Joker?
I'll never forget in The Batman vs Dracula where Dracula had realized Bruce's identity moments before his 're-death.' That actually made the ending to that battle a bit more epic. kind of felt like in Superman the Animated series were the corrupt cop realized who Superman was seconds before he was executed.
Superman, I think he used his x-ray vision to see, I may be losing my mind, but I think most members of the Justice league knew too, at least for the JL show... All but hawk girl I’m pretty sure.
Several iterations Superman uses his X-ray vision which is CHEATING and NOT figuring it out on their own. Because Superman could just X-ray vision ANYONE who wears a mask and know who they are that's why it's CHEATING.
There was one where Superman tried that and Batman had a lead lined mask
Loki Ragnarok lmao
In jla Batman told everyone who he was and at the same time revealed everyone else's identity
I remember that episode @@MekhiTheOne
Bruce Wayne (looking at the mirror): Do you know who I am?
Reflection: I...am...Batman!
Bruce Wayne: No, I am Batman!
Killer Croc would should know who Batman is. The rich scent of expensive meat should be enough for Croc to recognize him.
Jim Gordon second wife Sarah also knew who Batman was during the year one story arc. She guessed it had to be someone with enough money to have access to gadgets and suits.
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Tim Drake was my favourite 'figuring out' person because the Robins before him were more on the brawn and agile side whereas Tim's strength was detective skill. That's why he's my favourite Robin.
He's also one of, if not the only, Robin to have taken on that role because he SOUGHT IT. Dick needed closure, and Jason needed reformation, but Tim? Tim recognized that Batman needed any sort of spark of levity in his life after Jason's demise( at the time) so he CHOSE to be Robin.
@@RotaAbyssian yeah exactly. He sought out to figure out who Batman was, as he saw that the Bat was becoming more brutal without Robin.
although all the robins are smart most can at best match batmans intelligence but Tim is the only one who can surpass it.
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Consider all the times the Joker has targeted Alfred Pennyworth because of his connection to Bruce Wayne, I think the whole "His fight is with Batman, not Bruce Wayne" ridiculous.
I like how the Telltale version handles this. In that version, Joker knows Batman is Bruce Wayne and treats them as if they were the same person.
There’s another character who figured out Batman’s identity: an artificial intelligence named D.A.V.E from The Batman.
He used a process of elimination by examining public records of Gotham City.
First, he took the male population and struck out any male who wasn’t in Batman’s rough age group.
Then, he looked at medical records to determine who of those remaining men had the build and athletic skills that match Batman.
Next, he looked at tax records to find any of those men who had the wealth and resources to create Batman’s gear.
Finally, D.A.V.E viewed news archives to determine a motive for any of those men to become Batman. That motive is the night that Bruce’s parents have died at the hands of that criminal.
D.A.V.E only showed in one episode, so I can see why you didn’t include him on this list.
DAVE would be an amazing villian in a movie though. I wish he was more known.
Man I missed that show. I wish it could come back for a few more seasons or get a next movie.
This, this exactly. 2 years late to respond but for a one-off villain, D.A.V.E. as a concept could be remastered beautifully. Imagine if a character like him had appeared in something like the Arkham games, or similar high quality continuities.
You forgot Sherlock Holmes in ERB though:
"I once met a rich fellow who smelled of guano and pain,
I deduce this deuce stain as Bruce Wayne!"
Ah, memories.
Holmes explains!
The billionaire!?!?!
@@Swapmeet421 yes he's wealth would allow this adversary of ours to afford the toys he needs- hold on was ERB referencing the ways people found out Batman's identity or am I just reading too much into it
@@raspberrycrowns9494 Since he has no super powers!
I really just want a character in batman media to figure it out and then say "Seriously Bruce this wasn't hard. I mean you're literally the only person in Gotham with the time, resources, and motive to do this"
Bane is a genius, hes underestimated as dumb muscle, nd usually it is wht he is when roid raging
Of course misdirection is a strong trait to have
Everyone who deducted Batman's identity
Superman : am i a joke to you?!?
he didn't deduce it though, he just x-rays through the mask and sees who it is.
yeah but he saw through 😂and identity exposed
@@lee_cakra still not a deduction.
@@olivinator Didn't Batman wear a lead lined mask just to prevent that before they met? I could swear I remember that from the 80s Man of Steel miniseries.
@@yagsyags5694 never had a chance to read that, does Superman deduce Batman's identity in that one? in most cases Batman does not wear a lead lined mask the first time they meet and Superman X-ray visions through it.
just noticed deathstroke was spelled “Deathsroke”
i guess you could say they had a stroke writing that
A Deathstroke. Heh heh.
Kyodai Ken who fought both Bruce Wayne and Batman and because “ fighting styles are like fingerprints” worked out they are the same man.
Never heard that saying but it definitely makes sense
it was said in the Animated Series
If the injustice comics are taken into account then literally everyone knows
Because Superman told them all
And in Arkham Knight too
There's also Commissioner Gordon. He's just really good it pretending. Whether it's Batman tipping him off in BB or just being that good a detective. Even the writers have acknowledged, he knows.
So you’re telling me the best detective to exist didn’t take any measure to cover any of his tracks?
Damn
There's a lesson to be learned here: don't adopt a member of a famous circus act then train your adopted child to fight crime as your sidekick if you want to keep your identity secret.
In the words of Joker: "No one's who you think they are my dear, why spoil the fun?"
You know what's really cool for people knowing other people's identities? Raish al ghul knows the Joker's real name. And he's afraid of him.
Uhm Wat when?!
Apparently in the new comics continuity there's 3 Jokers, each of them could have a different identity.
I would be scared too, Joker toxicant can really mess up someone like Ghul.
In one of the Batman cartoon series, Hugo Strange had made an AI that had the collective mind of every inmate at Arkham. He released it, allowing it to make a body for itself, and eventually, he deduced who Batman was and even where the Batcave was. He waited for Batman to return, and Batman defeated him by informing and convincing him that he was not real.
I remember that show.
6:30 TN-1 didn't just destroy Bane's memory of Batman's identity, it also took a huge effect on the rest of his memories and most notably his psyche, which can be seen not only at the end of his boss fight at the end of Arkham Origins, but also in Arkham Asylum and Arkham City.
0:00 that dame it voice crack was hilarious
You missed a huge one.
“I once met a rich fellow who smelled of guano and pain
(Homes explain)
I deduce this deuce stain is bruce wayne
(The billionaire?)
Yes his wealth would allow this adversary of ours
To afford the toys he needs
(Since he has no super powers)”
Okay, now this is Epic.
Epic rap battles xd
makes no sense
"You want to battle bat? Bring it then. ( i hear he has a british butler)"
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5:16 in the nolanverse, Bane knows who Batman is because he was in the League of Shadows before he was kicked out
There was an issue where Harley Quinn came REALLY close to figuring it out and likely would have if she had continued along the same line. She crashes a party at Wayne Manor and her henchmen ask her why she's so interested in this guy, and she said she can't really explain it but he has a "presence", and she's only met two other people like that--Joker and Batman.
Deathstroke knows.
Also Oswald Cobblepot. As of Issue 1000 of Detective Comics
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that they've stated that the bullet to his head caused him to forget the information Jason Todd told him, thus preventing him from being able to figure out Batman's identity through that.
Which is a shame, because I would've LOVED a scarred Penguin coming out of a coma, with the knowledge he needs to figure out Batman's identity, and then having a story around what Penguin would do knowing that Batman is Bruce Wayne.
@@darthvaderreviews6926 yes but recently in Detective Comics #1000, it's revealed that he always knew but never did anything for some lengthy convenient reason
Oooh, thanks for clarifying, I thought you were referring to that other time. Sorry for not getting the comic right, I should've known, considering that I believe it happened under Red Hood and the Outlaws.
How did Slade find out?
@@mutazah Talia Al Ghul was salty about something and snitched on Batman while she was having sex with Deathstroke. In the end he took it with a grain of salt because Batmans learned to cover his tracks pretty well, so he can't tell who Bruce Wayne actually is. (Bruce Wayne having body doubles in several parts of the world at different WayneTech divisions)
Bane's is actually the most impressive, in my opinion. He's just an animal, a predator relying on the most primitive tools. He noticed someone else moved just like the thing he'd been studying
While its never been confirmed, I'm convinced Gordon knows who Batman is.
I think one comic had Bruce about to reveal, and Gordon stopped him, saying if he WANTED to know he would have by now.
And while a dream by Scarecrow fear toxin, there was the time Gordon figured it out after Barbara's death.
In my own opinion, I believe Gordon could figure out Batman's identity if he wanted to, but out of respect to his friendship with and towards Batman, he never bothers to.
I think he may have a bit of an idea who Bats is, but doesn't care to try and dig further.
I think in the telltale batman games you have the choice of revealing identity to Gordon. It's been awhile though so I might be wrong.
I remember seeing something with Batman talking to Superman saying that he knows Gordon is to good of a cop to have not figured out who he is
Ooh Static Shock was a good one. By meeting Alfred in the Batcave when he was injured and later seeing Alfred with Bruce Wayne. Admittedly Batman totally did this on purpose but it was still awesome to see.
4:43 I can recognize the sounds of the footsteps of the people in my office. Good trackers can determine height and weight of subjects by their foot prints. So Bane recognizing Batman/Bruce Wayne is plausible.
Correction; when he saw Dick do the quadruple in air Summersault, Dick was still Robin. This happened a bit under two years after the night at the circus. Tim figured the rest out soon after at only 6 years old. He kept the secret until after Jason's death, when he realized Bruce was spiralling out of control. Which was when he went to Wayne Manor, told Alfred what he knew and how, took Dick and Jason's Robin costume, and dressed in it to shock Bruce into seeing the path he was going down. He knew the truth LONG before Dick became Nightwing.
Why would Bruce tell JOKER that he is Batman? Later the whole family got captured of course...
Bruce: hey uhm...you know...im Batman...im having enough of Damian these days...you know the new Robin. So uhm...take care of him...
Joker:...
Am I a joke to you?
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Joker: didn’t we already go through this when you get tired of Todd?
He didn't TELL the Joker who he was. Batman found a Joker card in the Batcave and thought the Joker had figured it out. So he went to Arkham Asylum to confront the Joker as Bruce Wayne. He showed the Joker the card, but the Joker had no idea how Bruce Wayne got it from Batman, because he's so crazy he doesn't want to know the truth, as the video describes. When the Joker went after the Batman family, he captured them all as their super hero identities, not as their civilian ones.
Bro I’m in the middle of playing Arkham City and you didn’t even have a spoiler warning you just straight up showed Hugo Strange dying.
You forgot Egghead. Reasoning that the enormous expense of being Batman would point to only one of three Gotham City millionaires who would be of the right age as Batman, and deducing that two could not be the Caped Crusader (one had a French accent, which Batman does not have, and the other is left-handed, whereas Batman is right-handed), he concluded that the last, Bruce Wayne, must be Batman.
"I'm Batman, do you want to know my, secret identiy?"
Heck, why does everyone forget about Coleman Reese (appearing in "The Dark Knight")? Reese was an employee of Wayne Enterprises who figured out the Batman's identity and tried to profit off it. Identifying numerous irregularities within Wayne Enterprises financials, Reese's private investigations led to him discovering details regarding the Batman's equipment suppliers. Putting it all together, Reese deduced that Bruce Wayne had to be the Batman. Reese met with Lucius Fox, Wayne Enterprises CEO, to tell Fox that he knew the identity of the Batman, had proof, and offered to keep silent for $10 million a year. Fox reminded Reese of Wayne's immense wealth and connections with the veiled threat that, if need be, Reese could be "disappeared" very quickly.
One of Bane's abilities is his incredibly high intellect, It wasn't bad writing, It's part of Bane's character
I like how almost half of these are like them finding out who Nightwing is first to get to Batman 😂
I think the only thing one who could recognise Batman’s movements when he’s Bruce that makes sense is joker
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A few you missed:
1. Superman in the Animated Series.
Unlike most versions of Superman, who was told by Bruce Wayne as part of joining the justice League, the Superman of the Animated Series found out Batman's identity by using his X-ray vision to see through Batman's cowl. Of course, Batman immediately returned the favor by sneaking a tracking device on Superman and following Supes home.
2. Barbara Gordon in The Batman cartoon series:
Barbara Gordon saw Bruce Wayne and almost immediately figured out he was Batman because Bruce had the resources to pull it off, the same muscled physique, and even the same distinctive chin.
3. D.A.V.E. in The Batman:
D.A.V.E. was a robot designed by Hugo Strange to be the perfect supervillain. D.A.V.E. (who thought he was a human who had put his brain in a robot body) figured out that Bruce was Batman by first narrowing down the adult men of Batman's likely age, then figured out which one of those are wealthy enough to be Batman via tax records, and then figured out that Bruce was the only one of the possible candidates with a tragic backstory.
4. Owlman in the comics:
In Owlman's home universe, he was Bruce Wayne's brother. Upon meeting Batman he was able to easily put two and two together.
5. That Accountant from the Dark Knight:
Some random accountant in the Dark Knight realized that Wayne tech's seemingly dead R&D department was spending a LOT of money. He looked around and found the Batmobile prototype in the old files. He tried to use this to blackmail Batman, but Lucious Fox convinced the accountant that would be a really, REALLY dumb idea.
(Note, the next two characters found out Batman's identity nearly by accident, but I will mention them anyway).
6. Aunt Harriet from the comics:
Possibly the stupidest character to figure it out, Aunt Harriet was basically Bruce's housekeeper in the early days of the comic. At one point she stumbles upon the Batcave and realizes Batman's identity. However, Bruce and Dick were able to convince Harriet that Batman is just a good friend who is allowed to stay in the basement. She was actually convinced by that lie.
7. Killer Moth in the comics:
In a similar case to Aunt Harriet, Killer Moth got plastic surgery to look like Bruce Wayne and snuck into Wayne Manor, discovering the Batcave. However, before the Killer Moth could really do anything with this knowledge, he was shot in the head, and like Bane/the Riddler lost all memory of what he learned.
Cool! Thanks for sharing. Who was Killer Moth shot by btw?
Also Cassandra Cain in the comics (pre 52)
@@EricLukacsTHEDCLEGOUNIVERSE Did she figure it out based on Batman's "body language?"
Joseph Attwell I believe she compared Bruce Wayne on tv to Batman in person and put two and two together due to her ability to read people’s body language
Joseph Attwell Either I’m really pervy and am correct or I need help either way thank you for the laugh.
There was this thing in "The Batman" where an AI (I think made by Hugo Strange) figured it out by simple deduction: it first reasoned that Batman had to be Gotham-based (obviously.) Then it eliminated the women in Gotham. Then it ran down the list of those who could be Batman by possible age, possible height, possible weight, build, etc. The list was still a bit long by then, so it did what R'as Al Ghul did and narrowed it down to two people who could possibly have the amount of wealth required to be Batman. After that, the only question was who had to motive to dress up in an edgy costume and go beat up muggers in dark alleys every night. Ding ding ding. Chicken dinner time.
@Chandller Burse I don't remember. Probably Thomas Elliot, though.
His gender,age,body build, wealth height, weight, and more importantly the reason
The AI your talking about is called DAVE.
In my school vr game, Goalius learned it through ege colour and blood (the eye and blood was done by Susamaru where she took a photo of him and sneakily took his blood who then gave Goalius and during the Dark knight boss fight Goalius bite through his armour and saw his eyes and IMMEDIATELY identified him)
I like how joker figures out Batman’s identity in Batman beyond.
How did it happen?
The joker captured Tim Drake and he tourtured and mind washed him into thinking he is the Joker's son and while tourturing he knew from Tim that Bruce Wayne is Batman