I am about 90% confident that in the original draft of the MGS2 script, Solidus would have been specifically targeting financial records at world trade center, fight club style.
Solidus was trying to escape the control of the Patriots AI system, by releasing an EMP onto Manhattan financial district. There's no way that the skyscrapers filled with global trading data wasn't originally part of that plan. the WTC has already been the target of a failed terrorist attack prior to 9/11, and there's no way Hideo could have resisted using a landmark that's literally shaped like the roman numeral for 2. That said, I'm also convinced that Skullface was the Fury from MGS3, then later also Mimic Octopus in MGS1, and Drebin in MG4, so take my ramblings with a grain of salt. @@TheFloodFourm
Always beyond excited for any video dropped by Jorin . Right after my work shift , I’m going to watch the rest , after a good blaze . Then I’ll play mgsv .. ty
@@willthomas3399 well turns out I was too busy to go through with my plan . So tonight the plan continues , after a quick 7 hour shift. Then I am free to blaze and play MGSV after the new Futurasound video .. I hope ..
Man, you are the GOAT mgs commentator. You really illuminate the inner workings of these surreal and intricate stories. The way you take aspects of the games themes and styles and mix in just enough of your own personal interpretations and feelings to color in the less well defined grey areas… bravo. This video in particular is REALLY, REALLY cool. I LOVE how this game brutally screws with the player through Ocelot and the AI’s S3 plan and dares you to try and figure out what really happened.
Is there a part 4? The playlist seems to have 3 videos hidden. Anyone knows? Thanks, this series has been amazing, even ive played the game so many times, yet, ive learned so much more by these videos, just wow
As someone who’s played this game more than a dozen times this video showed me subtle nuances and themes that make this game even better. That’s how you know this game is a true masterpiece
MGS2 remains so dense, even 2 decades later. These videos are a testament to that. Incidentally, will there ever be part 8 of Cutscenes of MGSV? That's a very insightful series
Yes! Watch and share at once my friends. I always stop the moment I see a new Futurasound video. The mix of geopolitics, history gaming, and great writing all coalesce into this channel that beats with the heart of the atomic age.
The best of the best has come back. Always enjoy watching your videos at night right before I fall asleep. I am stunned at the research you do. Stuff I’m only now studying in postgrad, and you’re covering it in your videos some times. It’s astonishing. Your channel is underrated.
Yeah, I've also noticed that the carpet in the computer room looks similar to the one from Otacon's lab from Shadow Moses. And I've noticed that the Hi-Tech Soldiers don't have accents.
I think theres one thing that can we can agree upon when giving MGS2 'best in the series' status - its codec convos are actually on 1000% of tension and discovering them after the whole thing its like a game within the game.
I just finished MGS2 recently and it is one of my favorite MG games! I’m so glad you are continuing this series to help me make sense of what the heck is going on in it🤣🤣
MGS2 was waay too ahead for its time to understand. Sadly it took us 20 years to truly understand this message Kojima was implying not only its amazing but its scary.
I've never seen this mentioned, but Olga/Ninja is wrong about pacemakers: they're not audible. Easy hypothetical fix: artificial heart valves are audible, or I guess you could use nanosenses to see Ames' pacer's EMF signal. Also never mentioned: MGS2 Ocelot has the classic Doomed Anime Mom ponytail. I don't know what it means but it has to mean *something*.
A thought I had about why the uniform is so small You get it from the Ninja, who we know is Olga, so she probably was just giving you one of her spares.
I just want to say, as a 20+ year fan of MGS/Kojima and a fan of youtube video essays - there were many times where I would scour youtube trying to find MGS essays and would only come across the few megahits (superbunnyhop, mgs4 was a mistake etc etc). Until a week ago the YT algorithm showed me a thumbnail of one of your videos. Since then - I'm subbed, and have gone through most of your content. This is the channel I've been looking for for a LONG time.
I have been a fan of MGS2 *specifically* for almost 2 decades now, it was only til I saw the beginning of this video that defined “shell game” that I realized what they meant by calling the location “the Big Shell” 🙃 very very nice detail
Glad to see you back. Will you ever make a video about why Ocelot decided to adopt the Liquid persona in his plan to defeat the Patriots? This is a plot point that never made much sense, and it seems worth analysis.
It never made sense because Liquid was supposed to have possessed Ocelot against his will. Ocelot was the son of The Sorrow, a spirit medium, strongly implying that he unknowingly inherited the ability to some extent and channeled Liquid's soul via the arm. But then for MGS4 Kojima decided there was no room for any supernatural elements in his series, only cutting edge technology i.e. everything is nanomachines.
Thanks for continuing to make content. You got some great ideas and wordplay bro and I'll usually re-listen to more than a few while I'm working. Also 21:41, you meant RAY right?
So you mean to tell me that MGS2 has everything MGS1 to it? Superb storytelling ngl. I played this in HD collection and I didn't expect such similarities to MGS1...
Always wondered why ocelot saw us talking to Ames but didn't do anything until a few minutes later...... almost like he waited for us to get the information we need in order to serve the patriots
Do you subscribe to the theory that on the Tanker Ocelot _was_ really possessed and that is why he had Liquid's arm replaced with a prosthetic? Well, to me it's not really a theory, it's backed up by official documentation, but what is debatable is whether he had the arm replaced after the Tanker or after the Arsenal incident. You can see the prosthetic clearly in MGS4, and the official MGS4 database confirms it to be a prosthetic.
Welcome back Jorin! Did something with your microphone change? The quality is much lower than previous videos to the point that it's uncomfortable to watch on mobile
We’re finally getting the remake and a set of remasters. I’m beyond excited, and I know Jorin probably shed a tear of joy today watching the trailer. I wonder what Delta signifies?
Can somebody please tell the names of the following parts of this series? I could only find parts 1 and 2 via the playlist and I accidentally stumbled upon this part 3. I need the context to find the rest of the content, pleaaaase!!
In the list of MGS1 memes, you forgot about the death of a president....just instead of the Arms Tech President, it's the actual US president Also, using Nikita Missiles to destroy an electrified floor, and of course, insertion by water.
I wish I could get a pole on everyone's favorite ninja throughout these games. Although Grey Fox look more advanced with his body being more svelt and slender because he was a full cyborg my favorite would always be Olga suit because it was buff, jacked, and I loved the holographic Dome face mask as opposed to the physically opening panels of the Iron Man style Fox helmet. It makes sense, though, for Olga's suit to be beefier because it's powered armor that she is piloting, and it also is to hide her identity.
I am about 90% confident that in the original draft of the MGS2 script, Solidus would have been specifically targeting financial records at world trade center, fight club style.
I’d love to here further elaboration on your theory :) that’s interesting
Solidus was trying to escape the control of the Patriots AI system, by releasing an EMP onto Manhattan financial district. There's no way that the skyscrapers filled with global trading data wasn't originally part of that plan. the WTC has already been the target of a failed terrorist attack prior to 9/11, and there's no way Hideo could have resisted using a landmark that's literally shaped like the roman numeral for 2.
That said, I'm also convinced that Skullface was the Fury from MGS3, then later also Mimic Octopus in MGS1, and Drebin in MG4, so take my ramblings with a grain of salt.
@@TheFloodFourm
@@TheFloodFourm cut content yo look it up
711 was an inside job yo
Always beyond excited for any video dropped by Jorin . Right after my work shift , I’m going to watch the rest , after a good blaze . Then I’ll play mgsv .. ty
Felt that one on a personal level
@@willthomas3399 well turns out I was too busy to go through with my plan . So tonight the plan continues , after a quick 7 hour shift. Then I am free to blaze and play MGSV after the new Futurasound video .. I hope ..
@@hectorzamarron9484 here a month later hoping the plan came to fruition lol👍🤘
@@UlanSays yes , it sure did ! Now , I’m just waiting for the next Futurasound video to come out … lol
@@UlanSays it sure did
Man, you are the GOAT mgs commentator. You really illuminate the inner workings of these surreal and intricate stories. The way you take aspects of the games themes and styles and mix in just enough of your own personal interpretations and feelings to color in the less well defined grey areas… bravo. This video in particular is REALLY, REALLY cool. I LOVE how this game brutally screws with the player through Ocelot and the AI’s S3 plan and dares you to try and figure out what really happened.
Is there a part 4? The playlist seems to have 3 videos hidden. Anyone knows? Thanks, this series has been amazing, even ive played the game so many times, yet, ive learned so much more by these videos, just wow
Commenting cause I'm wondering the same thing, where are the rest of the videos??
@@dlm9293I swear it’s like the patriots censored him or something
You are a legend in the eyes of those who love mgs
As someone who’s played this game more than a dozen times this video showed me subtle nuances and themes that make this game even better. That’s how you know this game is a true masterpiece
AHHHHHHHH I LITERALLY ASKED FOR THIS LAST NIGHT THANK YOU SO MUCH
😭😭😭😭
so glad to see deep dives still being made about this game
19:42 - Lmao "Gorge Sears"
I've never noticed that before
This is my absolute favorite MGS game
Feels so damn good to see Futurasound Productions popping up frequently in my new video notifications.
MGS2 remains so dense, even 2 decades later. These videos are a testament to that. Incidentally, will there ever be part 8 of Cutscenes of MGSV? That's a very insightful series
where is part 4 and 5 and 6 of what even happened in MGS2
I discovered this channel a couple of days ago and I am completely addicted to these videos.
Yeah, I've been watching for about 3 months now and I check the channel all the time just in case I missed an upload. Some of the best on YT
Ah man, I envy that. I discovered his channel about 2 years ago and have already binge watched all of the videos a couple of times. Have fun!
Been waiting for this since episode two of mgs2 analysis, great job as always
Your hard work is a blessing for a weary, and yet still curious mind. Thank you for showing us what true dedication is, Boss.
Snow in lower New York for the first time this year and Jorin dropping a banger? The Patriot AI must be behind this…
To the man putting out the most in-depth MGS analysis videos - here's to you
This channel is underrated
Yes! Watch and share at once my friends. I always stop the moment I see a new Futurasound video. The mix of geopolitics, history gaming, and great writing all coalesce into this channel that beats with the heart of the atomic age.
The best of the best has come back. Always enjoy watching your videos at night right before I fall asleep. I am stunned at the research you do. Stuff I’m only now studying in postgrad, and you’re covering it in your videos some times. It’s astonishing. Your channel is underrated.
Wow I think this might be the first time a part IV is going to be made...the big question is when will it come out? I humbly wait for it's release!
Yeah, I've also noticed that the carpet in the computer room looks similar to the one from Otacon's lab from Shadow Moses.
And I've noticed that the Hi-Tech Soldiers don't have accents.
Hey man I love these mgs videos but what happened to the other videos of mgs 2?
This😢
Jorin is always at his best when he talks about MGS2.
It's good to see you again. Boss.
I think theres one thing that can we can agree upon when giving MGS2 'best in the series' status - its codec convos are actually on 1000% of tension and discovering them after the whole thing its like a game within the game.
Aww man, the long-awaited next episode is here!
I just finished MGS2 recently and it is one of my favorite MG games! I’m so glad you are continuing this series to help me make sense of what the heck is going on in it🤣🤣
MGS2 was waay too ahead for its time to understand. Sadly it took us 20 years to truly understand this message Kojima was implying not only its amazing but its scary.
the amount of anticipation for this >>>>
I’ve been waiting for this!
I've never seen this mentioned, but Olga/Ninja is wrong about pacemakers: they're not audible. Easy hypothetical fix: artificial heart valves are audible, or I guess you could use nanosenses to see Ames' pacer's EMF signal.
Also never mentioned: MGS2 Ocelot has the classic Doomed Anime Mom ponytail. I don't know what it means but it has to mean *something*.
I was waiting on this one super excited for this drop thank for this
Yesss I've been looking forward to this episode for a while now.
A thought I had about why the uniform is so small
You get it from the Ninja, who we know is Olga, so she probably was just giving you one of her spares.
I just want to say, as a 20+ year fan of MGS/Kojima and a fan of youtube video essays - there were many times where I would scour youtube trying to find MGS essays and would only come across the few megahits (superbunnyhop, mgs4 was a mistake etc etc). Until a week ago the YT algorithm showed me a thumbnail of one of your videos. Since then - I'm subbed, and have gone through most of your content. This is the channel I've been looking for for a LONG time.
Actually been waiting on this one
Kept us waiting, huh? :^)
Welcome back, Boss o7
God I've missed you! Thank you for all the work you do here on mother base boss
God, I can't believe my eyes when I see this title, the 3 part after a year. And now I become obsess with game theories again.
I have been a fan of MGS2 *specifically* for almost 2 decades now, it was only til I saw the beginning of this video that defined “shell game” that I realized what they meant by calling the location “the Big Shell” 🙃 very very nice detail
Im begging you, add this to the playlist so I can listen to them tonight while half asleep!
The shell is merely an illusion
I was watching the previous two episodes and I was searching for this! Very excited!
I would love to see the next one of these! Thanks for your hard work, it's really wonderful!
Love your videos man! I appreciate every upload!
Glad to see you back. Will you ever make a video about why Ocelot decided to adopt the Liquid persona in his plan to defeat the Patriots? This is a plot point that never made much sense, and it seems worth analysis.
It never made sense because Liquid was supposed to have possessed Ocelot against his will. Ocelot was the son of The Sorrow, a spirit medium, strongly implying that he unknowingly inherited the ability to some extent and channeled Liquid's soul via the arm. But then for MGS4 Kojima decided there was no room for any supernatural elements in his series, only cutting edge technology i.e. everything is nanomachines.
I've always wondered about this. What a great video!
Thank you for being THE mgs guy.
Thanks for continuing to make content. You got some great ideas and wordplay bro and I'll usually re-listen to more than a few while I'm working.
Also 21:41, you meant RAY right?
Part 4 when? 🥹
So you mean to tell me that MGS2 has everything MGS1 to it? Superb storytelling ngl. I played this in HD collection and I didn't expect such similarities to MGS1...
Metal gear stories are like poetry, they rime
its always a good day when jorin drops a vid
Will your other mgs2 videos become available for viewing again?
Прекрасное видео! Прошу не забрасывайте серию выпусков, а то без вас в сюжете мгс разобраться почти невозможно!
Always glad to see another MGS2 video from you, Boss. I never realized some guards were American before.
Always wondered why ocelot saw us talking to Ames but didn't do anything until a few minutes later...... almost like he waited for us to get the information we need in order to serve the patriots
21:42 Rex? Did you mean Ray?
Just like the games; you're pretty good.
Do you subscribe to the theory that on the Tanker Ocelot _was_ really possessed and that is why he had Liquid's arm replaced with a prosthetic? Well, to me it's not really a theory, it's backed up by official documentation, but what is debatable is whether he had the arm replaced after the Tanker or after the Arsenal incident. You can see the prosthetic clearly in MGS4, and the official MGS4 database confirms it to be a prosthetic.
I hope this is what we have been waiting for boys and girls
Welcome back Jorin! Did something with your microphone change? The quality is much lower than previous videos to the point that it's uncomfortable to watch on mobile
I love your videos so much man. I would love to see these continue 💪🏻
oooh I've been waiting for this
We’re finally getting the remake and a set of remasters. I’m beyond excited, and I know Jorin probably shed a tear of joy today watching the trailer. I wonder what Delta signifies?
"Are you Mr. X??"
"Nope; Mr. X wears a trench coat and has beef with Leon."
Lol
Holy sh*t…..I am very happy to see this
21:42 *meant to be RAY
Can somebody please tell the names of the following parts of this series? I could only find parts 1 and 2 via the playlist and I accidentally stumbled upon this part 3. I need the context to find the rest of the content, pleaaaase!!
11:00 for years i have wondered why there were some soldiers with American accents, holy crap
welcome back, Boss!
21:43 did you mean "Ray"?
Is Part 4 out yet?
The true protagonist. Ocelot's my favorite!
I fucking love Jorin Lee !
What happened to the other parts?
In the list of MGS1 memes, you forgot about the death of a president....just instead of the Arms Tech President, it's the actual US president
Also, using Nikita Missiles to destroy an electrified floor, and of course, insertion by water.
Is there a part 4 ?
Not yet at least
I wish I could get a pole on everyone's favorite ninja throughout these games.
Although Grey Fox look more advanced with his body being more svelt and slender because he was a full cyborg my favorite would always be Olga suit because it was buff, jacked, and I loved the holographic Dome face mask as opposed to the physically opening panels of the Iron Man style Fox helmet.
It makes sense, though, for Olga's suit to be beefier because it's powered armor that she is piloting, and it also is to hide her identity.
Have you ever given the world of "Cyberpunk" a chance? I think there's a lot you could sink your teeth into with 2020 and 2077
yesss i been waiting for this🙏
This time I searched" Futurasound Ocelot"......food for thought
Been playing MGS since 98.
I'M READY
What happened to the next part in this series??
Thanks!!!
You're pretty good
is Raiden's enemy disguise being too small foreshadowing that it's because it's Olga's uniform??
Kept us waiting, huh
Unhide the other 3 videos!
Just started playing Sekiro and I just realised Wolf Is like Venom! Wakes from a coma with muddled memories and a prosthetic arm!
I just wanna know how the hell kojima and everyone else came up with this plot back then
Ocelot worked for no one accept for big boss. Loyal to the end.
Where my honeycomb smile at... 😊
Mike quality is a bit bad ... lots of static..
YES
A remake would be nice
Welcome back boss. H TOWN HOLD IT DOWN
Would be nice if you covered death stranding more. I love that game too ^_^
Thanks dad