Kingdom Retrospective: A Toyline that Lost the Thread
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In today's video I wrap up Kingdom. OR DO I?
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i honestly love the idea of kingdom being a mix between obscure characters and a reimagining of the beast wars characters,i actually love kingdom,we got a solid figures like galvatron and optimus,rhinox and we get a robot mod reimagining of the ark,i give the line 8.5/10
I'd put it very high my self. Though I would have to disagree about Rhinox, that's one of my most hated figures of all time.
@@PerspectiveEnd most hated figures of *all time?* you've got to be kidding me. He isn't even close to the likes of Supreme cheetor
I feel like if Hasbro managed to get all the beast war season one characters out in kingdom (since thats what the line is promoted by) I’d have very high regards of the line
@@celestialalkaid5721 I agree, but honestly the way we got gems like Cyclonus and Blaster makes me still not hate it at all. It's at the same level as Siege for me.
I never collected much Beast Machines so I've never experienced that.
kingdom felt like earthrise leftovers with the same cat mold 8 times in different sizes, though looking back at it it gave us the best figures of the trilogy in terms of engineering.
That is absolutely a valid viewpoint.
Is Legacy a 1 season series that is like a Multiversal crossover, if so when is that ever going to happen? It just seems like a toy line to celebrate the years (not saying it’s bad just curious)
I'm not sure quite what you mean by that, it had a show, and the show was WRETCHED.
I think Legacy is supposed to be a Celebration of all the years. Kingdom was Meant to be the BW line, I think I make sense of it in my next script so stay tuned for that.
I'm pretty sure Legacy is supposed to be another 3 year thing. Hasbro's gotten stuck in a trilogy mindset. I'm pretty sure it's eventually getting fiction, but I'm not sure when.
I've heard/read that Hasbro wanted to have a Transformers: Legacy show (likely as a sequel to the WFC trilogy), but Netflix didn't want to do it.
If Netflix doesn't want to screw up another Transformers series, that's fine by me. They have no idea what quality means, or they just refuse to pay for quality. Not sure which. I'm sure there'll be comics, or Hasbro can do a series themselves or give it to a competitor. I know the histories of most of the non-comics-only characters, so I don't need fiction to get me to buy.
Legacy is guaranteed at least 2 years, given Wave 2 is listed as December, but I'm pretty sure I've read 3 years.
@@PerspectiveEnd I heard that Netflix didn’t want to pass the pitch for the show so like it was an idea that hasbro wanted but Netflix just rejected it I guess
When you said it confused you that it was odd that Paleotrex was a Predicon but his head was primal’s weapon, I think it’s because as far as a story goes, I think primal ripped his head off and used it that way
That seems a little evil for primal.
@@PerspectiveEnd Movie Optimus
@@PerspectiveEnd bro got Bayverse Prime genes in him
I only got into collecting around the middle to end of kingdom, honestly what a line to start on. I love them a lot especially Cyclonus, galvatron and Blaster.
I got back at the Tail end of TR, and the start of PotP. That was OK, getting back in Siege would have been amazing, but Kingdom is definitely the next best line after that. It had some of the Highest Highs of the decade, though it is worse than Siege because it also had some of the lowest lows.
Something about primal makes me gravitate to it, there are issues but it looks so good that I can honestly overlook them
It looks Ok to me, but that chest hole just kills it.
@@PerspectiveEnd understandable, thats definitely the worst part of the figure to me
4:11 I wish someone would say that to an Acid storm figure....BUT NOOOO BECAUSE HASBRO KEEPS ALTERNETING BETWEEN : I'M STUPID AND I'M SMART BECAUSE THEY LOVE TO DO REPAINTS AND NEVER DO A RAINMAKERS REPAINTS except that one time in siege and at that time they were smart but they weren't when they decide to do trust in Acid storm's color.... HOW DARE YOU HASBRO
Wait what's wrong with Siege Acid Storm?
Almost nothing, I love that toy
Kingdom for me was what really got me back into transformers. I'm here for the Cores personally. Cheapo boys, really fun transformations, and it's just neat. Core class scratches my itch personally and it's just so nice to have these boys on a budget.
Bottom line the biggest win Kingdom probably has I would argue is Core Class.
Totally get it, legends scale stuff is fun and cheap.
WfC pretty great .Siege was amazing but they made to many figures exclusives (I was able to get skywarp but didn't, idk why maybe cause I never pulled the trigger.) Earthrise was meh nothing popped and was just a worse siege , overprieced and boring. Kingdom was good figures were pretty good, I liked the selection but they left out some great figures.(beast wars inferno).WfC was my first time truly collecting I left in the middle and came back during the end, happy it lasted as long as it did
Man if you think siege had too many exclusives. Remember earthrise?
The WFC was a great time to be a collector. It's safe to say that Kingdom had some of the highest highs and lowest lows in the whole Trilogy.
@@joshuavis2736 I choose not to.
@@davidlebner9106 lol yea good choice
@@PerspectiveEnd Jup , I never experienced the end of siege and earthrise as a whole. I cameback to transformers exactly as kingdom was announced maybe even a little earlyer.
honestly for me, I feel like hasbro should reused the blaster mold to make a new soundwave
I don't know that that would work the best, since his legs are too big, but they would have worked out better than the Netflix version.
This line supposed to be filled with BW Characters but instead it was filled with G1 Bots and Cons to complete the line. I have no problem with that, but why bothered putting G1 Characters in BW line when many BW Characters hadn't appeared in their own line yet. It was just absurd
Like I was Ok with getting some characters from other continuities in it, but this needed to finish the season 1 cast.
1:41 I feel like Vertebreak isn't a fossilizer because they're so small, and it'd be difficult to make them partsform and become weapons. The best i think they could have done is give it a third mode where it takes from battlemasters and turns into a weapon without partsforming. Like that rhinox gun thing we got for ROTB.
I think there are at least a few things they could have done.
Kingdom was an amazing toy line despite it being heavily infested with G1, like other lines! It gave me figures of BW characters I thought that I’d never own, glad that had the opportunity. Legacy has done similar to me as well, can’t wait for future figures!
Kingdom was truly special, sad to see it over.
When this line was announced I was like BEAST WARDSAsS and now I still like it but I only got one figure was dinobot the others were just a little bit overpriced
What is Wardass?
Love the cliffhanger.
On the next episode of PerspectiveEnd, we find out the answer but wait? A new figure might arrive to be reviewed, we'll find out on the next exciting video of Perspective Z.... Erm I mean PerspectiveEnd
PerspectiveEndZ
Who know's maybe I'll cover the store exclusives in the next one.
Are just gonna ignore the fact that cheetor doesn’t have a blaster
Yeah that was lame, but expected since they made the tail a partsforming piece so "He already had an accessory".
As someone who has a wingfinger, I have no idea why it bends reality
Same, it shouldn't be as good as it is, but it's great.
@@PerspectiveEnd it’s honestly my favorite fossilizer
I honestly enjoyed what Transformers WFC Kingdom had to offer. Bringing back Beast Wars characters with more realistic animal/dinosaurs/insect molding is cool. Sure there were some hits and misses, but luckily I don't have to deal with that, as I preserve my figures in their boxes. The introduction of core class is cool. Not really a fan of the downsized characters like Optimus Prime, Megatron and Starscream. But like how it was used for Rattrap, Soundwave, and the two new characters, Vertebreak and Dracodon, as I consider them Fossilizers. Speaking of, out of the three sections in the trilogy, Kingdom is the first where I got every weaponizer gimmick Fossilizer characters. From store shelves and exclusives. Do I wish for more Beast Wars characters to appear in this toyline, yeah sure. I do wish there was more Decepticons characters, as it was just Galvatron and Cyclonus to represent that faction. And I wish Kingdom didn't have the package refresh of Optimus Prime, Wheeljack, and Arcee. As those spots could have been filled with either more Decepticons or Beast Wars characters. I do remember there was a rumor listing for Starscream to return. And honestly, I kind of wish it had happen. As I would have Seekers from across the trilogy chapters. But I guess it was because of the Studio Series 86 Starscream that it didn't happen.
-Legacy is among us. With some Beast Wars theme characters, either planning to appear or released. Got Nightpowler, Buzzsaw, and Sandstorm. Looking forward to what else is in store.
But you just said you didn't like the Downsized characters then you immediately tell me you liked Soundwave.
What do you mean Legacy is Among us.
Because Soundwave is known mass shifts from big robot to little cassette player. Can't believe I didn't think of using core class Soundwave like that before. Guess it's because I got the tiny cassette player Soundwave, from the Centurion Drone weapons pack, for that use. I did see core class Soundwave on clearance. So I gave him a chance, and he serves as my desk toy, in his little cassette player mode. Hope a core class Blaster is in the works.
Wrong choice of words, I mean Legacy is already here.
If I had to rank WfC it would be Seige followed by Kingdom and lagging behind is Earthrise. Damn Earthrise sucked and then we get Legacy, which so far outranks Earthrise and if the next waves are any good it will blow past Kingdom in the race for the best.
Favorite of Kingdom: Cyclonis, Galvatron and Rodimus. The Rodimus transformation is just so much fun. I think I am going to transform it now. lol Now if Legacy can give me what I want. Which is more Decipticons. It's weird that the Autobots were lossing when they had so many more characters than the Decipticons. I am about to start thinking the Decipticons were lossing the war because of how few of them there have been.
Be well mate and always remember to have fun! :)
Yeah, Legacy is what Earthrise should have been.
For me Rodimus isn't one of those. I just want to Transform something figures. He's good but I tned to look for breezier things to transform.
I only have 4 kingdom figures: Optimus primal, BW megatron, core class megatron, and ultra magnus.
That's a solid line up of most of the better figures.
If I'm being honest, I don't think Kingdom's toys like the Beast Wars characters weren't the problem, I think it's the G1 fans that give us Beast Wars fans alot of disrespect ever since Beast Wars came back.
The Geewunners have been giving us Disrespect since the show first came out 25 years ago. They can't handle the best part of the franchise, because it's got animals in it.
I am very disappointed that there wasn't a mod for blackarachnia like there was for fanstoys rouge.
Nah just kidding its an awesome figure
Man I was about to slap you.
@@PerspectiveEnd I just can't believe nobody is talking about Arcee's rack
And pinion driving system
Man, it hurts that my Soundwave joints are so crap he cant even stand or having his head on the front cuz it's falling over. Even his shoulder cannon is crap.
Your Kingdom Soundwave has tolerances that bad? Man that sucks sorry to hear that.
I subscribed because I feel like Blur is the narrator.
You make this channel fun! thank you for your dedication, and thorough source material.
keep it up!
Thank you.
I try very heard, glad you appreciate that.
I love the fact that the BW characters are based on realistic animals, I love the original beast modes from the show but I can’t help but prefer the new kingdom alt modes
I'd be down for this if they were just Accurate for once ever, cause the OG toys weren't, and now these aren't.
@@PerspectiveEnd well they are accurate to the real life animals and I think for some characters it’s a mix of the cartoon design and toy design
11:44 Waspinator is a LOT shorter than Dinobot. He's like chest height at most.
Good thumbnail
Thank you, it's the aspect of the video I'm actually most proud of.
Kingdom had a lot of heart put into it from the start, and that was evident with the way some of the figures were designed and how they turned out in hand. Unfortunately that can only go so far. Still one of my favorite lines since I've gotten back into collecting, but I kinda wish wave 4 is where it ended off at. As opposed to shoe horning in 2 figures at the last minute to artificially extend the line by a few months
One of my favorites as well, and I think there's a clear reason as to why the line had a lot of heart at the start, you will hear about in the next video.
So, recap of my interactions with Kingdom: Vertebreak, Ractonite, Paleotrex, Blackarachnia, Warpath, Wheeljack, Sparkless Seeker, Gen Selects Galvatron will arrive in a matter of weeks.
And...that was it for me in this chapter.
(And for my interactions with everything else (modern) as a whole:
Studio Series: ROTF Megatron, ROTF Starscream, BB Optimus Prime, VW Bumblebee, Dropkick (helicopter), Shatter (car), DOTM Shockwave, DOTM Thundercracker, 86 Hot Rod, (Sideways?, DOTM Bumblebee?, 86 Arcee?), Cogman
Siege: Ultra Magnus, Springer, Apeface, Barricade, Flywheels/Skytread, Red Wing, Rainmakers (Acid Storm, Ion Storm, Nova Storm), Hotlink (Heatstroke, Heartburn)
Earthrise: Optimus Prime, Arcee, Doubledealer, Snapdragon, Exhaust, Bug Bite, Soundbarrier, Smashdown, Dominus Criminal Pursuit (Barricade, Punch-Counterpunch)
Kingdom: Vertebreak, Ractonite, Paleotrex, Blackarachnia, Warpath, Wheeljack, Sparkless Seeker (Singe, Caliburst), (Gen Selects Galvatron)
Power of the Primes: Punch-Counterpunch, Dreadwind, Blackwing, Battletrap (Battleslash/Roadtrap), Cindersaur, Megatronus/Bomb-Burst, Solus Prime/Octopunch, Quintus Prime/Bludgeon, Jazz, Moonracer, Beachcomber, Windcharger, Inferno, Elita-1, Rodimus Unicronus/Nem-Rod, Nemesis Prime/Nemesis Pax (Giza)
Other: Legacy (Prime) Arcee II, Transformers Tribute Bumblebee 3-pack, AOE Bumblebee with Strafe vs Decepticon Stinger
And yeah, I'll have to edit this later if I recall anything else I got in these recent years.)
You haven't gotten a hold of any of them so far? Sorry to hear that.
@@PerspectiveEnd (And again, I have seen Siege Jetfire, Kingdom Beast Megatron, Kingdom Optimus Primal, Kingdom Cheetor, Core Optimus Prime, Core Rattrap, and Core Starscream on my store shelves. And if I had (all) the power to do so, I would have have them.)
(And do you know what I mean about the Legacy Fossilizer Wreckers, and my inability to obtain Wingfinger?)
Why are you talking like 2x normal human speed? I wanted to watch your video but it was headache inducing. I thought something was wrong with my youtube and it was stuck on fast playback.
I talk at that speed because I want to respect my viewers time, why take 30 minutes when I could take 20.
What some people have said helps is slowing the video down to .75% speed. I've listened to it like that and it sounds good basically no distortion.
Definitely a good line, I was kind of annoyed that red alert was so hard to get here in the uk (still waiting to have enough spare to get him)
After missing out on most of siege and earthrise’s dreadful distribution where I am (I literally only ever saw wheeljack and cliffjumper in stores and got ironworks and arcee for Christmas/birthday) this line was a nice change of pace, hopefully they keep it up with how well studio series and a handful of legacy figures have been showing up where I usually get stuff
I think Red Alert is the only one I don't have.
I will miss kingdom.
Kingdom holds a special place in my heart since its what got me back me back into collecting and its definitely become one of my favorite toy line, the highlights for me being warpath and galvatron those two figures are great
They are both great, it's just sad that it came at the expense of line Cohesion.
i kinda agree but blackarachnia is the worst beast wars figures I own I bought mine a month ago and her spider mode is just a floppy mess😭
Sorry to hear yours is in such a state. Honestly I'd describe mine as overly stiff.
I haven't collected Transformers in years and I've started again because my brother introduced me to Beast Wars. Ever since then, I've slowly started collecting Beast Wars figures. And I've heard your opinions on Kingdom and Earthrise. Honestly, I kinda like those figures and I'd definitely start my collection with those figures like my brother has. Although figures like Rhinox I wish was better becuase I piss my pants every time I transform his legs. Man they feel fragile and are real hard to get them in their place. Like couldn't there been a better way of doing this or something?!?!
Hey! Nice! I love to hear someone getting into Beast Wars. I love that show so much.
And yeah I hate that Rhinox's legs. They are just a nightmare.
That Cyclonus is the crowning achievement of main line Transformers of 2021. It makes masterpiece versions pointless unless you insist on scale. Same for the Galvatron. With upgrade kits, it really shines.
I mean I wouldn't say no to a better face, and an MP could be more poseable, but from body Sculpt, to Transformation, to altmode I wouldn't really want them to change it.
I throughly enjoyed kingdom. I have I belive a majority of the figures, and I don't have problems with most of them. Yes it was a mixed bag of characters, but it was really fun and allowed me to fill a lot of gaps in my newly started collection. Another good video PE. Keep it up
Thank you so much, I think I might have every last TRUE Kingdom figure.
Titan class ark is more or less a place were you can grab the core classes- screamer, meg's, prime, soundwave, and have fun with them at that scale
Exactly, that's what I have him displayed for.
Man, I sure do miss the War For Cybertron Trilogy toy line. I miss the blast effects, the ramp system, the C.O.M.B.A.T. System and the battle scratches. I remember when the first leaks for Siege Optimus and Megatron and being so pumped up in 2018. I remember Siege Optimus Prime being my first WFC figure, and being so pleased. I remember being excited for Earthrise Wheeljack. And finally, I remember being nostalgia-struck when the first Kingdom reveals dropped. I remember getting Primal and loving the crap out of him. Those were great memories, and I am sad to see the trilogy of hype go. I think I just gave myself depression.
I know exactly what you were talking about. I was salivating over every 3D render of a Siege Reveal they did, each one looking so cool and new.
I am still confused about Legacy. Like with the new Velocitron subline, is that going to be our Wave 3? Where are the Legacy Wave 3 leaks? Maybe its a good thing that nobody is focusing on them... but VELOCITRON IS WALMART EXCLUSIVE!
YAAAYAYAYAYAYAYYAYYYY!!!!
so excited.
to pick none of them up.
No Velocitron is going to be like their Buzzworthy Bumblebee line.
The reason I think people didnt complain is because is BW fans are desperate. Not to mention if we complained and didnt buy em, it would reinforce the idea we only want g1 and we would never see our beloved BW characters again.
I mean that's partly it, but honestly I think it also just boils down to alot of the fandom want there to be something wrong with Beast Wars so that way it can't pass up their favorite part of the Franchise, because it's Undoubtedly the best written and acted.
So if the show is ugly and that needs to be fixed, then it's not better than their show.
If one thing I wish ALL lines would end is clear plastic joints. Windows and cockpits for clear plastic is fine. But using it for joints is something that ruins even the greatest figures
Yeah that's an amazingly bad idea for them to keep pulling.
kingdom was like that kid that looked promising but the older they got the worse they got
edit: RETROSPECTIVE'S ARE BAACK
They never left, lines just needed to conclude for me to do them.
*I begin dangling a swirling hypno coin.*
Now, listen closely my beloved pet...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Packrat & Labrat...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Neo Hardhead...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Catilla...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Crystal Widow...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Treads...
*swirling, swirling.*
Ehh, leave as is...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Universe 2003 Primal...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Ferak...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave T-Wrecks...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Nacelle.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Archforce.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Armada Airrazor.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Killer Punch.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave red eyes Pipes.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave BM Dinotron.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Hauler.
*swirling, swirling.*
Ehh, leave as is...
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Marvelwave.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave BW Double Punch.
*swirling, swirling.*
Eh, leave as is.
*twirling, twirling.*
You will crave Loud Pedal.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave a Santon retool.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Marvel UK Galvatron.
Also, you will repaint his eyes yellow.
Because comic art.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Lost Light Roddy.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave a Tidal Wave retool.
*swirling, swirling.*
Again, you will crave red eyes Pipes.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Buzzbomb (Theft Of The Golden Disk).
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave Armada Cheetor.
*swirling, swirling.*
You will crave our precious little man Ironfist.
*I rub your head & feed you a sugar cube.*
Good boy.
See the problem with your master plan here is that I don't live in a cartoon so this doesn't work.
Yeah, getting the Legacy Galvatron, I really do enjoy the figure a lot. There are only two things that could make this figure better, in my opinion.
First off: a better head. While the one we have doesn’t have a bad head, the helmet of it is bit more ovular in shape. I think we all would have loved a head sculpt closer in shape to how Galvatron’s head was in the 86 movie.
Second: I wish they would have made a Galvatron with the bluish-purple color he had in the 86 movie. While purple is the more baser color of Galvatron, that blue tint he had in the 86 movie made him pop out a bit more for me. The only company I’ve seen that’s come out with a Galvatron figure that is closer to his color scheme in the 86 movie is FT when they released him in his FT-16m variant. Now X-Transbots’ Galvatron does seem like it may have a closer color scheme to what he had in the movie, but we’ll have to see when it fully releases.
With that said though, I did find someone on Reddit who repainted their Kingdom Galvatron with the movie accurate colors, and it looks beautiful. It’s under r/transformers and posted by FCB323 if you want to search it up. Or just look up Kingdom Galvatron repaints.
Absolutely, that's one of my main problems with the Galvatron my self, that head just ain't it cheif.
I think that Color is only on some transfers of the movie, this purple feels pretty close to what I saw in the movie, though it could stand to be a little darker.
I don't know how to search reddit by user, can you link?
Gonna do the best and worst figures from each wave for no reason
Wave1:
Best:paleotrex,cyclonus is better but way less heavy metal. Also I love how many joints the arms have, you can get him into a lot of psychopathic, feral poses in bot mode and have it look normal
Worst:warpath, not bad it’s just that almost every step of the transformation is slightly annoying
Wave 2:
Best:airazor, aside from the feet ball joints being loose on some copies it’s one of the best robot modes in the like
Worse:ractonite, one of two figures in the line I genuinely hate. It does nothing other than having a good Dino mold
I don’t have inferno
Wave 3
Best:dracodon… nah soundwave, enough said
Worst: rhinox, this figure is my least favorite , enough said
I don’t have the ark
Wave 4
Best:tigatron(not many options)
Worst:waspinator, my favorite beast wars character(I’ve grown on tarantulus over the years so we shall see if legacy pushes him over the edge), if the chest hinge worked I’d put shadow panther here instead
Wave 5
Best: blaster(not many options)
Worst:pipes, this was my grail of the line for a while. Not because I really liked the way it looked but because I found blaster and slammed on separate occasions by chance and knew hot rod would be re released in legacy. Pipes would essentially mark the end of the line for me. Eventually found him like a month or two after slammer at a Kroger. He’s just okay as a figure
I don’t have hot rod, I’m pretty certain he’s worse than pipes tho
My favorite in the line is paleotrex and my least favorite is rhinox, I don’t think the figures I’m missing would change that
What is your Criteria for best?
I was about to Slap you when you said Dracodon and not Soundwave.
Why do you love Paleotrex so much?
The WFC really was the ultimate mixed bag
You have siege which is probably the best line hasbro has ever done(finally a god tier seeker mould)
Then you go to earthrise which was an absolute embarrassment. Sunstreaker, runamuck and skylynx were the only standouts
Then finally kingdom which was a mix. You had god figures like cyclonus, rodimus, galvatron and beast megatron, but then you had figures like tracks…fucking tracks
Tracks was so bad I had to return him, he’s the only figure I’ve hated so much to the point of returning
Siege was probably their best ever.
ER was Ok by the end but it started like crap and only ever broke out into Mediocrity.
Kingdom really needed to find a way to be consistent.
Your opinion and commentary doesn’t match with their price,
You better criticize master piece. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Obviously that’s make sense bunch of people don’t like the way you approach these figures
And don’t ever think you have better point of view than them ,
Because you’re not !
... What? What do you mean it doesn't match their price.
... I do Criticize Masterpiece?
... What?
... What do you mean it makes sense that people don't like the way I approach these figures.
... And I've never at any point told people I have a better point of view than them? I don't even know how that's an issue here, I Liked the line over all, but said it also had some bad figures.
Who's going to disagree with there being "Some good and Some bad"
If you Hate the things I liked, or Liked the things I hated that's fine.
Hsres some comments:Rhinox maximize!
0:37 And it’s not like they ran out of BW characters for the line, they could have given us some of the transmetals, fuzors or even characters that never appeared in the show (like Wolfang). Hell, they should have given us a kingdom BW Inferno since he was recently added to the hall of fame, so they should have done something with him by now, and is the only from the original cast to not have one yet.
Yeah there were a million and one things they could have done that they just chose not to do.
I really do need to pick up a Blaster before they're not available at or below MSRP. I actually like the character almost as much as Wheeljack, but somehow things keep coming up first.
I mean it's in two lines currently so there's a good chance he will last a bit.
Until I’m proven otherwise, legacy is just season four of WFC to me. But I get the sentiment. At least this toy line wasn’t as bad as Earthrise. Earthrise gave us Ercee and Double Dealer.
I mean it definitely seems to be but at the same time, there is at least some kind of delineation.
You know honestly I snapped The Claw on my copy of Blackarachnia I was super glue it back together but I've never attempted the transformation again after that
Makes perfect sense, that is one of the thinnest parts of her body. Sorry to hear about yours.
We need Voyager class T3 Cheetor!
We may have not gotten every beast wars character in this line, but after kingdom came around beast wars has now been a part of the transformers line up more then any others with 8 beasty characters coming around in legacy, could say that it was intended for that line but couldn’t made it in, but I’m happy where still getting them with a killer inferno and transmetal megatron coming around
It's nice to have gotten them at all, it's just weird what happened.
Guess nobody is going to mention the weird sped up voice?
yeah I noticed that too. its kinda stupid and I had to turn down the playback speed for this
When?
So basiclly, kingdom is when hasbro trying to do beast wars character but their love of G1 making kingdom turn from a beast wars intended toyline into a G1 toyline
Perhaps. Maybe we will see in my next video.
I think its a massive missed opportunity to not include core class versions of the BW characters.
At the very least they should have included a core class TM 1 Megatron, one of the most Iconic scenes in BW is left out of the BW line.
Yeah, it's weird that so many of the Cores were G1.
Kingdom was good for me, I got all the BW season 1 figures, Magnus, and Slammer and I like all of them. Also am I the only one in history to have BA not break at all?
I mean you got all the ones they released, there are still a few that just didn't get made.
I hear that later releases of Blackarachnia had a change done to them to stop the consistent breaks.
I personally think Kingdom did a lot better than siege the only two figures I didn't not like in this line are rhinox and core class hot rod and yes both tracks and road rage suffered from bad design choices but they still have a least a good robot design and vehicle design at the end , then there is the ark , literary my only complaint about that figure is it should have better hands and besides those little grips , I really liked the offerings Hasbro presented in Kingdom even sneaking a beast wars 2 characters into the line .
All in all the wfc trilogy has been my favorite toy line in transformers and legacy is continuing that trend .
For sure the Trilogy is the best line that Hasbro has ever produced, and I will say that Kingdom hit more High Highs than Siege did, but it also had more of the lows as well. Like Rhinox, and Tracks.
Making a key BW Season 1 character an online exclusive over a Japan-only BW repaint of Cheetor is such an Earthrise thing to do.
This is true.
In my Blackarachnia I noticed that that post on the chest that many reported as fragile was shorter than in other copies, perhaps to solve that post breaking they decided to make it shorter in later copies. I got my Blackarachnia when wave 3 was coming out
I have heard they did a change to prevent it from breaking, though I don't know what that entails for sure.
if we hit 10k by august 9th (my birthday) that would be pretty cool also can we see power of the primes battle trap since it was the first figure i got after coming back into collecting.
I should review more old figures. And hopefully we can hit 10K by then together.
I got to say I loved kingdom still do even their exclusives I have all of kingdom and I'm glad that kingdom was my first toyline to complete
I originally completed the first Beast Wars line, but those figures have all disappeared over the years, but Kingdom is my second complete line.
If your only problem with Core Starscream was the Null Rays, do you have any problems with our lord and savior Legacy Skywarp? (It's an inside joke with my friends that it's the second coming of christ.)
I mean my obvious problem is that he just doesn't get the Nullrays at all.
Losing them all together was not the solution.
The beginning was great and the end was mediocre I was going to say more but I'm just going to sum it up like that 6/10 for kingdom
I don't know if I'd put the Average that low, but it was disappointing by the end.
I know you have a program for your next reviews and by all means, ignore my request if you have things planned. Don't ruin your schedule for me. But I was wondering, since you randomly review old Siege characters and you recently talked about him and you seem to have an interesting, negative and controversial opinion on him, I'd like to see a review of Siege Springer.
I am Planning on doing that soon yes. But then again I always have plans like doing the Fixing ER for the better part of a year now, and every time I go to do it it gets pushed back.
I can’t be too harsh to this line, because it returned me to collecting. But it hurts that I needed to wait for legacy to get my favourite character from beast wars tarantulas and not from BW line
Yeah, all the Season 1 characters should have been in kingdom.
A 2 PARTER?! Aaaaah... Then my thought on Kingdom will be in the next video comment section as well.
I'll be happy to see you there too.
I know this is late but wfc was basically what was out when I got back into transformers after 4 years or so I mean I did get one potp figure but it hit hard when I found out wfc was over but thankfully legacy had been great.
That was a pretty good time to come back into the fandom.
They really should’ve put scorponoks tail at the top of its back instead of by the waist. It just seems like it’d be a much better toy
There are many ways to make that a better figure, the most useful of which being to make it nothing like it self.
Definitely a hit and miss line am I the only who likes Cheetor more the tigertron? Mine feels worse in hand and if I ever move the torso his chest comes apart at least all of cheetors stuff stays pegged and I have shadow panther too and he has no problems
I have not heard of people having that problem yet, my copy of Tigatron feels great.
What are your thoughts on the cards included with each kingdom figure? I kept getting dupes of Blackarachnia- Unites Factions and Dead Optimus Prime floating in space.
Oh man I need to mention those in the next video.
Paleo trex = siege
Ractonite = earthrise
Wingfinger = kingdom
Change my mind
I don't understand the line you are drawing?
The cohesive part 3 line that Kingdom never was I dub the Rebirth line. If the Studio Series 86 figures were never welcomed into that line and instead found their home in WFT 3.
I feel you with that.
This line tried. It couldn't beat the greatness of Seige, but it actually came close for me. Most of the figures are good, and I'll miss the WFC line.
Yeah, Siege was Consistantly Fantastic, this had more Amazing figures, but also more TERRIBLE ones.
Did you hear the rumors that we lost a Legacy Straxus remold of Galvatron for clean Galvatron?
I have not, that would suck.
Now let's see who WFC Kingdom really is.
(rips off mask)
EARTHRISE ACT 2
Lol.
This guy almost made history doing a war crime because of a plastic crack called waspinator
What?
I couldn't agree with you more about the Kingdom line. It's weird and all over the place.
For a while I was very mad at it for having lost it's way so hard but my final theory really chilled me out to it.
I am glad we got kingdom because my beast wars shelf was looking really sad just wish they were more accurate
I'm Happy to have gotten it, just wish it could have been more.
Low-key I would've liked to hear the "Snyder Cut" of this video
- Cyclonus 🤣
What about Cyclonus?
And I mean I will be making a second half of this video so just combine the two and that's the full cut.
Kingdom was the breath of fresh air I needed to get back into collecting. Year after year it’s always the same G1 stuff and it’s just so uninteresting to me.
Totally get it. Kingdom felt different and interesting.
Why is paleotrex being a pred weird? It makes sense. It seems like Primal ripped his head of and used it as a weapon so why would he be a maximal?
Because the Weaponizers aren't supposed to Die so you can use them as weapons. They break down into weapons at will. So that should mean that Paleotrex is Willingly working with Primal.
I actually like Rhinoxe he doesn’t look like Rhinoxe but I still think the figure is pretty good if you get use to it
I hate the Transformation on him too much my self.
It definitely is a better cap to a trilogy than PotP. That one felt like they had given up and just pumped out more CW with a few new molds.
I thought PotP was Ok, but it definitely had no idea what it was trying to be.
Amazing video!
Thank you so much!
The had rise of the beasts coming out. Hence the holding back on realistic beast alts
I mean rise of the beasts isn't exactly having a realistic beast modes?
Sadly, when it comes to these toys, I was 30 cents short on BW Megatron, and regret it so much
That blows dude. Sorry to hear that.
No mention of Golden Disk Terrorsaur or the Ravage retool from Kingdom Cheetor?
yeah there were the exclusives as well.
Do you have the power of the primes optimal Optimus? If so can you review it.
I do, you can see my retrospective on PotP to get my quick thoughts on it, but I should review it at some point.
ok i feel ive been bullied into subbing because i dont see too many being critical about mainline figures and also have a bit of production, editing etc behind it
Yeah that is kind of my Neche. Criticality and effort. Glad you appreciate.
@@PerspectiveEnd ah yea man, i made vid reviews back in the day when i had time and money to do so and i know it takes a lot of time and energy to do them. So keep up the hard work son but it seems your doing well numbers wise
Definitely some stunners and stinkers in the line, in at times equal measure.
I would flying suplex a robot for an IDW inspired remold of Cyclonus though, hands down.
I just wish the add-on kits to diy weren't piecemeal in three batches and still lacking the samurai-esque thigh guards.
WHY IS NO ONE DOING THAT!
At best even the 3P companies are just including a new head and calling it a day.
@@PerspectiveEnd NewAge is the first company I can think of to make one that is only a retool of the other incarnations of himself, and includes the unique molding bits as well as (albeit partsforming) thigh guard plates that also go where they should in spacejet mode.
Unfortunately it's in legends scale, the scale I've set for my G1 set, not upper chug/MP scale which I'm using for my Lost Light IDW crew. If someone, or NA themselves would release an upscale version I would easily pay double for it, it's that good. I don't think images can be added to comments, but look up NewAge Toshiro and it should come up.
Kingdom in a nutshell
It’s evolving backwards
I said that Didn't I at some point?
Hello
Heyooo.
I think kingdom is a mixed toyline. Wave 1 and 3 aren't very good, but 2 and 4 are decent. Wave 5 doesn't count, that's just wave 4 figures moved back and legacy figures moved forward. Just like the last wave of siege where Astrotrain, Apeface, and Spinister were moved forward from earthrise and Crosshairs was supposed to be a selects figure. Wave 1 of kingdom had ok to bad deluxes and cores, but the voyagers were great and the leaders were alright. Wave 2 had some decent cores, 2 good deluxes, 1 ok deluxe, one that doesn't count, and great voyagers again. Leader class ultra magnus was a pretty good waste of money though. Wave 3 has some of the best cores in the line, including dracodon, but no good deluxes, even if I liked scorponok at first, but then the legs got loose and now he can't stand up so I don't like it anymore. Voyager Rhinox and Leader Galavtron are some of the best figures in the line imo. Wave 4 had more consistent quality with an ok Waspinator, decent Shadow Panther, Great Pipes, and an ok Slammer. Tigatron is great like the rest of the voyagers in kingdom. 7/10 toyline, I don't think it's better than siege or earthrise, all 3 toylines have equally bad and great figures.
That is... Such a Strange take on the Waves. I'd Say Waves 1 2 were good then 3 and 4 were very mixed.
How id Dracodon one of the best Cores in the line? He's just Green Vertebreak.
I can not Diasgree with you on Rhinox more. That is one of my most hated figures of all time. I would not rate a single aspect of it better than a 3 out of 10. Look 3/10, Accuracy 3/10, accessories 3/10, Ok Fine posability is 5 it's got some forwards butterfly but bad elbows, and no wrists, Transformation 2/10, altmode 3/10.
It's better than ER but I'd say that Siege had almost not bad figures, while this line had quite a few terrible ones.
ER was consistently like a 5 out of 10 with it's figures.
@@PerspectiveEnd That's why I like Dracodon, it's just vertebreak but green, I already liked vertebreak more than the other cores, so to have one in less boring colors with better tolerances is great. I agree that rhinox has bad accessories but the transformation is fine. If it's done in a certain order then it can be fun. Alt mode looks almost perfect if it wasn't for the green shoulders, but you can get a lot of articulation out of it if you unhinge the shoulders. Robot mode isn't accurate but it looks enough like Rhinox to me. I think Earthrise is just as good as the rest of the trilogy because of great figures like ironworks, runamuck, sunstreaker, Doubledealer, optimus, and sky lynx.
Dracodon has MUCH better tolerances
It hurts when he shows a figure I like and says “ it’s not bad but..” 😂
Well it's not bad. It just lacks real reasons to Recommended it to everyone. It of course can have niche appeal.
Awesome videos pal! Its like bacon to my eggs! LOL!
Thank you!
Kingdom had a half good figures quarter mediocre quarter bad
And the bad one's were TERRIBLE.
I like how you didnt even finish tracks transformation
I did off camera, after he broke my light box. Rip Light Box you've been with me since the start of my channel.
the black cheetor repaint is pretty neat. But I am not getting the legacy one
Yeah, I don't want that one either.