Earthrise Retroperspective: A Bad Toyline?
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- In this Video I I finally put down Earthrise the ways I should have in the first place.
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It was a decent line, but siege makes me think they could’ve done better
Absolutely. I agree.
@@PerspectiveEnd You probably should’ve started the earthrise video with what this guy said it would’ve prevented some people from getting angry at you
I don’t think it’s bad, it just had some really big L’s.
If you make it to the end of the video you will find that I agree.
It had way too many big Ls to be considered good though.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv agreed
Earthrise is about like getting more like more Earth note vehicles and it's not a bad Twilight in my opinion I mean sieges that is why they'll never be a perfect version of figures
I think earthrise’s biggest issues where QC and tolerances, I feel like quite a few figures in the line had you flexing the plastic, and of course, QC was a nightmare, I was pretty lucky when it came to QC though
You are absolutely correct QC was a night mare, and a lot of the stuff had irritating clearance issues.
I'm actually surprised with Hoist's positive reception; he's all hollow, doesn't feel solid, and his entire hood being cast in transparent plastic scares the ever living hell outta me whenever I transform him.
Then again though, I actually liked ER Starscream and Wheeljack, so maybe I just have bad taste.
It looks right, but I think what it boils down to is that I used to get SUPER shitty KOs as a kid made out of way thinner plastic that never broke, so I have a bit better confidence. And he's hollow yes, but not visually so, the only place you can really see it is the back of the legs.
@@basedpota Who's name is moist?
@@basedpota not true at all
I loved hoist till he fell like twenty centimetres and BAM there goes his wheels /:
After getting earthrise starscream I didn't bother hunting down the rest of the earth seekers and just kept the siege ones as my main seeker team.
Yeah. It's just not good. Doesn't capture the character, and isn't fun.
Let's hope that the next trilogy doesn't have another earthrise
They probably will, I mean look at the PWT. That had it's mixed bag as well.
@@PerspectiveEnd it went from combiner wars was worst, titans was best, potp had pretty good figures but the materials were cheap. Plastic, stickers, etc.
The nice things about your review are that they are nice and quick and don't take 20 minutes. This is why I like watching your videos you get them dome quick
Sorry this one is slightly longer than normal. And honestly I absolutely get it. I'm always kind of offended when I see a 40 minute video, cause I always know there wasn't a reason for it, they didn't have so much to say, they just dragged their feet through out and that's why it's 40 minutes.
Starscream er is credited for being the literal only wfc figure with no waist swivel
I've some how never noticed that, and I'd credit that for it being no fun to handle.
@@PerspectiveEnd thats why i hate it so much
No waist swivel, no wrist swivel, bad foot articulation and the fucking nose-cone sitting in his back like a hoodie.
WHAT WERE THEY THINKING???
Every other review: *praised earthrise*
Also Every other review: *says earthrise is not as good*
Perspectiveend: “You couldn’t live with your own failure, and where did it bring you? Back to me.”
Hey, I'll be Thanos. That is a thing I will gladly be.
Complain about the Cliff mold's shortcomings if you must, but, still be grateful we got a Bug Bite figure out of him.
Why would I be grateful for a Go Bots character? Also of course that's the one you care about.
@@PerspectiveEnd Yes, him & Exhaust definitely made my Christmas last year. :)
It's a white repaint, and not even of the correct figure, and without the purple decals.
Nah, not really worth it on top of that mold.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv The mans you speak to only has love for the deepest of deep cuts.
@@PerspectiveEnd I mean I like deep cuts too, but if the mold is crap I ain't buying it...
Unless it's so crap I feel the need to actively warn people about it.
Like the Earthrise Ratchet mold.
It was an excellent toy line! It did have its QC issues sadly.. but other than QC issues enjoyed it as a toy line!
Perhaps you'll find me agreeing with you. There is a Question Mark in the title.
@@PerspectiveEnd lol yeah I know but gotta have my say also☻☻
I feel like there is no excuse for the QC problems, the plastic on ironhide feels like a bootleg, and also all the other Design problems. Like making hinges out off thin transparent plastic and adding partsforming just to save some budget. And also the higher prices and smaller size
Since they redesigned several parts for the Earthrise version, they could've easily integrated the roof into the shoulders and legs.
That's what I'm saying, if you are going to go that far with Retooling it already, why not go all the way?
I agree, they don't have an excuse. Even if you take Corona Virus into account there is no reason they should have shipped the product the way it was, everyone's dollar was more valuable to them than ever this last year, yet Hasbro is putting in half the work and expecting rewards.
@@PerspectiveEnd pr they could have waited for the pandemic to end and then make them
I think earthrise is like the weird middle sibling of the war for Cybertron trio, siege was awesome, kingdom was great with the beast wars figures and the fossilisers were kinda cool, but i feel like earthrise was trying too hard to meet the standards that siege set and QC kinda got thrown out the window. (Grapple and Hoist were sick though)
See I feel like it wasn't trying hard enough. I feel like ER felt like it could rest on it's laurels because it was G1 and that's all it needed to be. So QC and engineering could go down the Drain people will still buy it.
Kingdom's best figures are actually the G1 characters, somehow?
Except for Beast Megatron because YEEEESSS.
I'm surprised that cliffjumper paint hasn't shipped after so many direct hits!🤣🤣🤣
Oh it has, just not all that badly. I was actually going to kick him across the room at the start of the video, but I forgot.
Sorry, but I legit laughed at your thoughts on Arcee. However, you summed it up perfectly. 👍
You don't need to apologize for that. I'm glad that part kills so many people.
I had received Wheeljack as an early Christmas presents, one of those that you can’t open until the actual Christmas Day so you have to only stare at them for like two weeks. And when the day finally came I was so excited to open him and mess with it, but his leg windshield pieces were both the left one, so he couldn’t transform well. I tried reaching out with Hasbro but they told me to see it with the store i bought him and after some talk with the manager they got the faulty Wheeljack and I was able to grab another one free from the store. Unfortunately everyone had bought the other Wheeljacks in the store and the only Earthrise figures were Ironworks, Hoist and Cliffjumper, and I grabbed the Cliff. I know the figure isn’t perfect and I despise the Partsforming but thanks to that history I cannot bring myself to dislike it, he was some type of consolation price but I still like him a lot and will be forever one of the most important figures in my collection. If anyone read all of this, thank you for listening me :)
Man that story hurt my soul. Sorry to hear that you had to be taunted for so long by an incomplete figure. Honestly Hoist was probably the figure I would have gone with, and at least you got some payback, but my channel is like a Love Letter to Cliffjumper Abuse.
So I think you probably know where I stand on it.
@@PerspectiveEnd oh, thank you for actually reading all of this :D. Yeah, maybe the Hoist was better but I never knew anything about the character and the figure didn’t interested me, while I actually knew Cliffjumper, have good memories of playing as him in Fall Of Cybertron and I actually really like both the modes on the figure, I just don’t like partsforming
Despite the good and positives of this line, there's are some bad and negatives too.
Honestly, this line feels like we're getting unfinished and unpolished prototypes released for retail.
Alot of the time, yeah, that's a fair Assessment. The figures don't feel like they were baked to completion.
I love how you didn't include cliffjumper in the beginning because of your beef with him haha
Yeah I was trying to mirror the old video then I hit where he would be and I didn't want to cover him till I did the thing with the missile. I originally planned on starting the video by Kicking him across the room, but I forgot to do that.
Yeah, the Earthrise toyline section of the WFC trilogy was decent. It had a interesting roster of characters. But should have been made better and lasted longer.
-The distribution sucked, with these exclusives and store retell quantity.
Pretty much all stuff I'd agree with.
These are my criticisms of my er figs
Grapple: it’s ok
Smokescreen: the gun broke in half and very hard to get out of hand
Sun streaker: just wish it had an actual gun
Wheel jack: it’s ok
Double dealer: the legs suck
Starscream: nose cone
Airwaves: great
Allicon: it’s ok
Why is Airwave in there? I didn't crap on that one.
@@PerspectiveEnd i think its for all of his ER figs bad or great
@@PerspectiveEnd there the ones in his collection
nice edit to an old video also that part where cliffjumper explodes was my favorite
Thank you. And Cliffjumper dying is always a Highlight.
We completely agree on Runamuck. It and Runabout may be the best Earthrise figures.
Yeah it's up there for the line.
Completely agree with you man, a completely mixed bag of a line. The seekers were probably my biggest disappointment out of the whole thing, though I’m happy we got new Grapple and Hoist figures. Those two were the best thing to come out of earthrise.
I did say one was basically perfect, and the other was a Micro Masterpiece.
Honestly, even if the ER Wheeljack is not perfect, I still want it.
I hope you like it then.
@@PerspectiveEnd honestly, I hope I do
I really like the earthrise Optimus prime cause for so long I've been looking for a g1 accurate Optimus that I didn't need to sell my kidneys for and this was practically perfect except for part of the back wheel assembly being bent straight out of the box and the trailer is great for storing weapons I stored so many weapons in it I called it the weapon storage trailer cause I stored weapons from g1 to AOE
I filled that trailer with the Weaponizers my self.
I was looking forward to Arcee, and when I got her I realized I prefer my MMC reformatted/ocular max stuff.
The ER one? Oh man that thing was such a let down. I mean man that cant even hold a candle to the WORST MMC Figure.
@@PerspectiveEnd yeah ER. I have the MMC Reformatted Elita-1, her articulation and kibble put ER Arcee to shame. Her proportions are better too.
For a second, thought it was a re-upload.
Nope It's a Reattempt.
That missile hitting cliffjumper part was hilarious 😂
Thank you I was super proud of that, though the joke is a little sabotaged by the fact that I forgot to do the set up, where I noticed it had blast effect ports on the side.
@@PerspectiveEnd I’m still in hysterics when I think if the joke
Another Cliffjumper death. Perspective End’s Cliff abuse will never disappoint me.
Glad to hear it.
I think a lot of people think of Cliff as a straight copy of bee.
He's not a Straight copy, but he is is an altered one.
@@PerspectiveEnd agreed
All the dislikes on this are just Earthrise Figures and their alts.
Hey if it is, then I'd like to thank them because it still only helps the video to down vote them.
i really feel like the WFC figures have had WILDLY inconsistent quality.
sometimes they have been bangers, sometimes they have been... well..shampoo bottle plastic dollar tree quality.
this isn't even factoring the chaotic QC.
Honestly yeah. We started out amazingly with Siege, though that line did have some problems then transitioned into the inconsistent Earthrise then kingdom lines.
So 7 months in, I'm starting to fall under the spell of the design of Smokescreen/Barricade mold, and, with no hope of an evergreen-based Generations Barricade figure, I'm gravitating towards the Earthrise one. Except, of course, the issue of the plastic in general, especially the clear legs and KNEES. That still worries me like hellllllll.
I know the Siege is sturdier, and has better colors, but I just can't shake the preference of that design out of my mind. And if I was gonna get only one of the ER Datsuns, it would be Barricade.
Plus, I'm sitting on a good deal for the set for $32, though I still want to sell off P/CP to someone else.
Really torn here, though leaning towards set on getting said set. What do you think?
I would say don't do it, I've heard many a story of that figure snapping in half.
I don't wanna see you wasting your money on something that will break and disappoint you like the tollway world constructor disappoints me
My main takeaway from this video is
Just buy kingdom stuff lol
Na it should be, buy Sunstreaker.
@@PerspectiveEnd yes, him too
Also, that franken siegER Prime looks sick.
If i ever get bored of ER optimus, i might just do that
Most people: watch perspectiveend for the quality content
Me: more cliffjumper abuse
I mean that's a VERY Valid reason. It's one of the core tenants of my channel.
Also when the rocket took off, did you see it coming?
@@PerspectiveEnd every time
Wow, THANK YOU for your HONESTY! I always had doubts n' suspicions about the earthrise line and now I know - and knowing is half the battle! :D
You are more than welcome. I'm glad you found the sincerity of what I was saying here appealing.
When it comes to earthrise, if you want the best figure in the line, you’ve gotta learn to love some niche designs, completely unknown characters, and prime.
I'm not quite sure what you mean by that?
@@PerspectiveEnd if you want the best quality from earthrise, you need to learn to love
some niche designs (skylynx, scorponok, ironworks, snapdragon (to an extent).
Completely unknown characters (iron works, air wave, most of the weaponizers that are actually based on g1 characters)
And prime (Self explanatory)
I have a question.
How come you hammer ER Prime and (somewhat) Siege/ER Astrotrain for not being worth leader price when Siege Shockwave does the exact same thing?
Because Siege Astrotrain is giving us our moneys worth. It's not just size that can do that. Optimus Prime is a Solid Voyager, but that Trailer it worth NOTHING. Astrotrain is a Tripple Changer, with more paint than optimus and his Tender is more complex than Optimus's trailer even at 1/3rd the size and it has WAY nicer materials and more paint. The whole figure is made of nicer materials honestly, and it doesn't have the QC problems.
Astrotrain feels like a voyager that falls JUST short of leader, but like it was trying. Optimus feels like it wasn't trying but wanted your money anyways.
@@PerspectiveEnd alright. I see where your coming from.
But what about Siege Shockwave? I think that figure isn’t worth a leader, even more so that ER Prime.
@@BunnyGirlMet I also think he's pulling off leader way better, He is way denser, but each piece of his armor is all way better than Primes Trailer, and it all combines well.
Though yeah, he is not pulling his weight like he should.
I don't think Earthrise in its entirety is meh, in fact I still think it's really good, it's just easily the weakest out of the 3, but siege and kingdom have been some of the best toylines in Transformers history. I honestly think if it had more of a chance with distribution and quality control, this line would be almost as good as the others, because a lot of the best and coolest figures were exclusives or had bad QC issues, and if those were fixed then really the only weak figures would be a slightly worse version of the best megatron, the alliconz and quintessons, which are harmless and weird figures, and Arcee, which at least has a good robot mode even if it's not that good overall.
I think even if this had Perfect QC and good Distribution it would still go down as the worst of the three because several of the figures are just Engineered badly, like ERcee, MERgatron, CliffjumpER. So it would still have some LOW points worse than any of the other 2 lines.
Honestly stuff like The Alicon, ERcee, CliffjumpER, and Quinteson just feel incredibly lazy. The bare minimum they had to do to sell a figure of this thing. And better QC wouldn't change those.
But that would really help make it a decent line.
front of truck and back of truck with canon are the heros we never asked for,but needed
Indeed they are. Tiny Heros.
The only ones I'm 100% keen on getting are Wheeljack, maybe Sunstreaker, Cliffjumper because he'll be a just decent substitute.
I have Megatron, and though I hate the back panel that partsforms just to fill out the back and don't care for using the turret in robot mode, I think he's decent. And I think he looks great in a gun mode. But that is because it is a retool of Siege, which I'm getting.
I like Sunstreaker, but Come on man Cliffjumper? CLIFFJUMPER!!!!
Gun mode?
@@PerspectiveEnd Cliffjumper because it is the closest thing I'll have to a Cliffjumper that doesn't cost $100 bucks. I don't like partsforming, and it looks NOTHING like G1, but it is at least a Cliffjumper. And there are ways to get Siege/Earthrise Megs into a gun mode. And the fan mode is my preferred alt mode for ER Megatron. I'll have the Siege be the tank once I get it.
It took me this long to realise that it's a plane crashing in the thumbnail.
I was always worried that that wasn't clear. Is it more clear on the Original thumbnail?
@@PerspectiveEnd It's the same to me. I guess I just got bad eyes and never really tried to see what it really was.
Nah, I think it's just hard to discern.
Astrotrain IS a Siege figure. He was released in the tail end of Siege and got rereleased in Earthrise.
Nah. He was meant to be in Earthrise, but was released in SIege at the very tail-end
Yeah I know that, that's why he's a Siege Figure to me, even though he's in Earthrise. My copy is even the Siege version.
I disagree, he was announced Early on for Siege, I'd say he was just so late the put him in both.
He's got actual Earth Modes though. Like even the more Earthy looking Siege figures didn't go as far as directing recreating the details of actually existing vehicles, that was Earthrise's thing.
Enjoyed the retrospective. On my copy of Sky Lynx to fix his QC's, I put some primer and gunmetal paint on the stubby base mode tabs to better keep it locked together, also helps keep his shuttle butt tabbed in. I've joined those that swear by it, and put some of the pledge floor polish on the wings, not directly on the mushroom peg, but where the wing and joint slide against each other for added friction, without stressing the peg. Much sturdier now than dry spaghetti noodle. And funny enough, his box art does show his mouth unhinged.
I'll try those's thanks.
It was a mixed bag imo. Had some that I loved/liked in DD, Lynx, Sunny, Cliff, Grapple, Hoistbreaker, and OP. But there were also some really terrible ones that either didn't need to exist, like Astrotrain and Megatron, or were shamelessly awful: Allicon, Arcee, and the Seekers. Also there was that filmy grey zone that was neither bad or good, with Wheeljack, Snapdragon, all the Modulators, and some others that I probably forgot existed...
I do say it was a mixed bag at the end of the video, but hold up, what's wrong with AstroTrain? I love that figure.
@@PerspectiveEnd nothing with Astrotrain himself, just that he didn't need to appear in Earthrise having already gotten him in Siege. Not sure if it had something to do with poor distribution of the Siege version or not, but he just felt like a filler that could have been a new character.
@@windowbewbs9064 I get you, and I think it's just due to the fact that he only came out in like the last 2 or 3 weeks of Siege before ER started.
Are you going to make a perspective on the kingdom toy-line and how you feel about it
Yes I will make a Retrospective on it, once I've reviewed every figure from the line.
Grapple is probably my favourite in the line
But he's so ORANGE!!!
Concerning the Sky Lynx halves connecting, have you snapped it it? There should be a click sound from the back tab. I had a similar issue with before figuring it out.
Yes. I absolutely get the click from the back. It's still stupidly simple to give it a light yank and pop the two apart. I'd say it takes more force to separate the pegs from Grapples feet than it is to get Skylynx in half.
I can accept that some figures weren't good, but figures like ER prime and bumblebee were near perfect
I actually like the line more than the title might imply, but I do vehemently disagree about the Bumblebee. It's just the Masterpiece but worse. It's not even like the Cliffjumper where it at least looks different.
For me siege was worse. Mainly cause of the Optimus, here we go. Loose legs, stress marks everywhere, loose head, janky as hell wheel, loose hands, and kibble. As for ER Optimus: paint chipping, loose waist, and a crack in vehicle mode. So here is my ranking: S Optimus: 4/10. ER Optimus: 8/10
for me it would go something like ER optimus 7/10 and siege 7/10 mainly cause they're basically the same figure
ER Soundwave was also amazing!
@@prototypeoswald1140 you're joking right?
I ordered air wave from Amazon two years ago and I transformed it once an when I put him back together he just kept falling apart to the point I had to return him which was annoying cause I think he looks kinda cool
Sorry to hear that, that sounds like my experience with Cog and Red Cog.
It has now been 7 months I ended up giving airwave one more chance and found a way to slightly tighten the pegs
8:14 truly a wepon to surpass Metal Gear
I'd agree. An Aerodynamically misaligned missile is a better weapon than a Metal Gear.
I agree
Hey what was that wheeljack upgrade kit? Or like where can I find one?? I love the blue and the complete arc of the windshield on his chest
It’s an upgrade kit from monólogi o robotosh
Yeah, most of the figures is actually not that bad but the QC's issues make them bad. The plastic quality and the engineering is far when compared to the Siege toyline. I think the nostalgia that people have is so high that they didn't really mind the problem that those figures have. Anyway, great video.
Thank you very much. And yeah, that's kind of one of Earthrise's biggest downfalls, when it had good figures they tended to be ruined by QC, or general unavailability.
Nostalgia really blinded people this time.
Ok, I have two QC related questions.
1. At this point, I have owned two Snapdragons, and both of them had the same issue. When in dragon mode, the big white piece the arms are attached to doesn't peg into the chest piece that well, meaning that every time I go to move the dragon legs, the whole assembly unpegs itself. Is this normal?
2. I picked up an Astrotrain yesterday and literally returned it the day after. I found that his knees were loose, one more than the other, to the point that he would topple over if he was wearing his back pack. The second one I got had the same issue, only on the opposite leg. Also, the piece the boots attach to on the tender doesn't lay flat in launch pad mode. Again, is this normal?
I haven't noticed that, but I don't do much with the dragon mode.
As for Astrotrain, I don't know if those are normal, but they aren't issues I have, or have ever heard of.
If they aren't laying flat in launch mode, it could be because the wheels are sticking out of the bottoms, you might want to extend them a bit to get them away from the tracks that force those out of their hidey holes.
@@PerspectiveEnd Thanks! From what I can tell, it's more of a problem with the hinge than the wheels, as it occurs even when I'm holding it
@@decepticonaiden Weird. Yeah I don't have that issue even harder... Sorry to hear that.
Is the small tank and poo car a dr. Lockdown reference?
I don't know what of his it would be referencing so no. It's just a Reference to an earlier video I did.
@@PerspectiveEnd oh ok, because in his micromaster waves 2,3 & 4 video he called them that.
@PerspectiveEnd Wait, his video came out after yours so he was probably referencing you!
Hoist brings back some memories.
He was the first EVER full-sized G1 Transformer I bought when I was a kid.
Technically, my Very First Transformer figure was Huffer.
The only other thing like them I could afford were Gobots!
That's actually kind of funny considering the last two videos.
Weren't Gobots More expensive back then?
For me my first was either G1 Slag, or G1 Optimus Prime.
@@PerspectiveEnd Not sure about the prices in America, but in the UK in the 80's, Gobots were always classed as the 'Pocket Money' alternative to Transformers and had the cheaper RRP.
At my, now long gone, Zodiac Toys store, the regular small sized Gobots were all around £1.99 (roughly $2.20) each.
The Transformers Mini-cons, despite being mainly plastic and not die-cast, had the higher price point of around £2.99 to £3.50 each.
If Blurr was in Kingdom, you would be a Perfect voice for him
Thank you. I have been told this before.
i only had ss figures break on me and im worried for my ss ironhide his translucent arms have cracking ports and i cant find a replacement
I wouldn't know about that, since I don't buy those.
The lazy eyebrow basically confirmed it to me that er starscream is the generations mold upscaled to voyager. When he showed on his review of the seeker mold, there is a metal pin on starscream’s back that was supposed to act as a butt flap, but the plastic was already molded in with the rest of the body. Hasbro couldnt even be bothered to add that to the figure.
Yeah no that guy who came at me with that was so unbelievably off base it's kind of nuts. He was so confident that I believed him until I actually looked at it.
He must be someone who doesn't understand that a thing doesn't have to be literally the exact same to be the exact same.
I will agree with the fact that siege prime has way better kibble because although it has more of it, it feels a lot better managed, like I'd rather take a nice jetpack that doesn't intrude on any articulation and flip out arm guns than some clumsy wheels on the back that not only break up the silhouette, but hugely hampers articulation and doesn't look like anything other than just kibble, not to mention the sacrifice in the robot mode's sculpt to get rid of as much kibble as possible is also a bit of a downgrade.
Absolutely agreed. It's not a bad figure but the Siege was a Soul Shredding Guitar Solo, and the fear of Kibble is overblown. More does not equal Worse.
9:36 I just about fucking lost it
Glad so many are getting a chuckle out of that.
would you be interested in doing a full review of ER Starscream one day? I know you outlined your main points on why it sucks, but I’d like to hear your full thoughts on it
Maybe but it's not a Priority for sure.
I’m just curious what’s going to happen when the Trilogy ends
Also good video as always
Yeah, I'm wondering the same thing myself. Another trilogy perhaps?
Thank you very much. I'm hearing, that they are 1 doing away with Titan Class, and 2 doing away with Trilogies, from what I hear it's supposed to get even more loosy goosey than Kingdom, where it's just going to be what ever they want to put out.
So we could see more Beast Wars in there, maybe some Animated love for once, get those UT figs people have been asking for including that Optimus they showed off for ever ago, maybe more IDW stuff?
Who knows.
I've heard that's not the direction they are planning on going. My info could be bad though.
@@PerspectiveEnd that sounds really great. For a long time now, Hasbro has limited transformers figures (tv shows included) to about three years at a time. It would be great if they can be even more loose with the format. Keeps things creative
I like the Trillogies, but I'd be quite interested to see what they come up with when not shackled to them.
Because their new jacks and have no idea about G1 .....because they where not born YET!
New Jacks?
Do you ever get tired of crying?? Or is that like your favorite hobby??
I mean, I came out of this video saying that I like the line more than I did, and that it's not bad but Mixed?
And I mean the point of what I do here is to be a Harsh Critic.
Hi welcome to the world of reviews, where we can't only just say the good things about something, and have to acknowledge the shit with the icing. And it's not his fault that this line cloner resembled a clogged toilet than a chocolate cake.
@@NexusProductions-rz1sv It's all good man, if he doesn't like me then he doesn't like me, I won't get bent out of shape over it.
Thanks for that tip about combining the hammer dude with Soundwave's gun!
Now it truly looks great!
No problem, I'm full of tips like that.
Well it's an ok line they had some perfect figures ( fight me) but some of them sucked ( arcee elita etc)
Edit: there goes another cliffjumper death again😂
Edit 2: IT BROKE THAT CLIFFJUMPER HATES YOU!
Edit 3: if you had a po box I would send you another one because I'm evil
Indeed. I forgot to talk about the fact that the rocket has 5mm ports on the sides for some reason, so I don't know if the joke landed as well as I wanted it to.
And I do say at the end that the line was mixed but not necessarily bad.
@@PerspectiveEnd well I still laughed the explosion at the end is what cracked me up
@@PerspectiveEnd also when you showed the conversation we had I laughed to hard
Hey, I just discovered your channel and while I may not agree with a lot of what you say, I admire that you say what you think. A lot of reviewers backtrack or go with the common opinion but you don't, and I admire that.
Thank you very much. I am so fortunate to have found so many people who understand and respect views that are not their own.
And you can rely on me to never just say what I think is going to be the popular thing. If I say the popular consensus great, if I don't great, I say what I say because I NEED to say it.
FINALLY! Someone who shares my point of view on this series. I didn't feel like I could trust any of the toy reviewers on their opinions on Earthrise because they were so biased on how good the figures looked, they wouldn't address any of the QC or parts-forming issues they had! To put it in perspective, before I got Wheeljack, I was watching numerous reviews on the figure and I remember Prime Vs Prime saying it was one of the most solid figures he had gotten from the first wave. Then I got the figure and he felt so light and cheap!. Shortly after, I got Siege Sideswipe and after thinking he might disappoint me the same way, he was actually incredibly solid and looked amazing! Since then, I have declared Siege my favorite TF Toyline because most of the figures I have collected from it have been significantly more solid than my Earthrise Wheeljack and they still look just as good.
Fun Fact, I have 5K subs, entirely due to the fact that people HATED me for not liking ER for a good while. They'd show up to my videos just to tell me I'm an idiot and downvote me. That's SUPER Charged my growth.
Siege was great ER is only popular cause it looked like G1 and people were trying REALLY hard to ignore it's flaws.
@@PerspectiveEnd Ha Ha!!! That's awesome. Well I'm glad to hear that your channel is growing. I for one recently subscribed and I've enjoyed so many of your vids. Thanks for the refreshing opinions and I'm looking forward to more content!
@@PerspectiveEnd
I guess it's because some people who hated you are brainwashed perfectionists/geewunners (no offense, just saying imo)
Hey i gotta ask, what do you think hasbro is gonna do with the transformers next after beast wars?
Well the Rumor is that they aren't going to do anything, they are just going to start releasing unrelated figures in a big old mash up of what ever they think people will want at the time.
@@PerspectiveEnd aight.... hopefully they dont do beast machined 😖😒
@@smol_robo6146 We don't speak of that serries here.
If you could add any character to the kingdom toy line who would it be?
There are so many.
BW Inferno, BW Silverbolt, BW Rampage... Basically alot of guys who stole other peoples names and made them their own.
We need more beast wars characters
@@PerspectiveEnd I would want a kingdom blaster
@@brubru9663 You will not find me arguing with that.
@@younglinc9950 I do need a blaster that's for sure.
I agree with the comment below mine, perspective, do you think I should get my brother double dealer for his birthday? I’d love to see a review for him.
I don't know what the comment below yours is. Double dealer is Ok, but I wouldn't hype on him. If you want him for your birthday, I think it's decent to get but it won't blow you away.
The arcee bit killed me 💀
I'm proud to hear that.
lol I remember that episode. I also subscribed to you the day I saw it because your feelings towards Earthrise matched mine. Though my main complaint is that there are never enough Seige Ports. lol
You do love you some Siege ports. Thank you for being here from the beginning.
on my country i can only find the first wave of Earthrise, thanks Hasbro
Ouch, that's unfortunate cause it only got better in later waves. Here's hoping you find better stuff soon.
@@PerspectiveEnd The only Thing that i like from Earthrise Is that they sold The Astrotrain with a better distribution than The siege
Ok, that bit with CliffJumper getting hit by DoubleDealer’s rocket made me laugh. That was pretty funny. Also, great video and I really enjoyed the week of Big BOIS.
Thank you. I'm glad that part got you, I was real proud of that, though I did forget to bring up the fact that the rocket has 5mm ports on the side.
And thank you. The Week of Big Bois was hard to make so I'm glad it went over so well.
Smokescreen for me didn’t break but still had QC issues. One effing arm was so loose it kept falling off so I was able to return it. Only good Smokescreen I still have is CW Smokescreen
I mean if the arm keeps falling off I think I might call that breaking.
@@PerspectiveEnd okay technically it didn’t fall off just very very loose that it felt like it was on the verge of snapping off
Will you do another video about siege, like how you did with this one?
Probably not. I was fully informed about siege when I made the first video and I haven't changed my feelings towards it since.
If you were to rank Siege Earthrise and every Prime wars line, what would be the order?
Siege, then Titans Return, this and PotP would be neck and neck both being mixed bags, and then CW for being just on the wrong side of bad.
Earthrise is like the middle child of the WFC trilogy, which makes sense in more ways than one. Still can’t get Runamuck anywhere though
It got the Hand Me Down's of Siege, and then gave Kingdom even more used Hand me downs... That makes too much sense.
How do you play with earthrise toys?
I don't quite understand the question?
Like do you play with earthrise toys or smash them and throw them like a baby having a tantrum
Earthrise Cliffs torture will never end and that's a good thing
Will it? Maybe that missile finally killed him for good.
So hey update again lmao
Just got a new Smokescreen and this time the arms didn’t fall off so at least o finally have a decent Smokescreen other then the CW one
I'm glad to hear that.
I found your channel from the siege and earthrise toyline videos and im happy i checked out more of your stuff!
Did that first ER video put you off a bit. It sounds like it might have. I understand if it did, that's the story for many people.
@@PerspectiveEnd nah it didnt i thought it was good so i checked out the prime wars and siege video
I'm glad. Most people saw that one first, and then wrote off the whole channel.
i love how this video's thumbnail is the same thumbnail of the other vid but with a new backround
Had to do it. But there are a few differences. Prime is further right, there are some question marks now, and my logo is in the corner.
@@PerspectiveEnd XD best thumbnail
What is the worst transformers toy in your collection, mine is the g1 Ironhide
I'm actually thinking about doing a what's the worst at some point.
Honestly, I love the cliffjumper mold. I have the netflix Bumblebee and I find posing and transforming it quite enjoyable. I also don't really mind the parts-forming back as the "shield" mode I think looks pretty good on it.
That's fine if you enjoy that don't let me convince you to stop, but there isn't really much argument to be had that partsforming isn't a less well engineered design.
Personally when I see stuff like that, I feel taken for granted, like Hasbro feels entitled to my patronage.
Covid hit Arizona so bad that we only got wave 1 sunstreaker trailbreaker and runabout
That sucks. A lot of this was really REALLY hard to find in California too.
are you sure you have Sky Lynx tabbed in right? I had issues with mine when I got it until I found out I was just doing it wrong lol
Im very forgiving on ER because of 2020 and every factory over seas was going through what everyone else was. Sunstreaker isnt a retool of Wheeljack. They just share engineering. And yes i know how that shounds but every piece of him is a new sculpt. I love that Prime because of the butt tires but then again im a huge Studio Ox fan. I agree that the battle masters were very much a "miss" in this line and a think a lot of it could have been fixed with just a simple knee joint. And yeah my Cliffjumper upgrade kit didnt last long either. I think everyone saying the line is G1 is because thats what people have wanted for so long and ER looks enough to it plus the line does have G1 "upgrades" in it such as Grapple and Hoist.
See I'd say that doesn't matter cause no matter what they need to be giving us stuff worth our money, and in 2020 our money was more valuable to us than ever. Also Hasbro posted Record profits last year.
To me a Retool is on the same skeleton. Yes he is a VERY heavy retool, but anyone can see just how similar the skeletons are.
Personally I cant stand the look of the OX stuff 1 its not consistent 2, it's too super robot, and 3 its like the artists had never seen the actual characters before.
Like the old drawings of Alligators where the artists had never seen one before, and only had them described to them.
@@PerspectiveEnd wasnt the record profits from the gaming division of Hasbro? Tbh thats why i love Studio Ox is bc of the super robot type of look. But beleive me i get why people dont like it.
I just need a quintesson judge, runabout, ramjet and dirge to complete the map, them and some gen selects are left for me to complete earthrise, I completed siege, i am currently also working one wave 2 of the Netflix figures, already have all of wave 1, hopefully will have completed ER by fall, that will be 2/3rds of WFC completely collected by 22’
sadly out of WFC Trilogy I have only
Siege:
Thundercracker
Megatron (Netflix)
Optimus
Optimus (Leader Class)
Brunt
Red Alert
Ultra Magnus (Netflix)
Earthrise:
Astrotrain
Optimus
Grapple
Hoist
Starscream
Cliffjumper
Wheeljack
Ironworks
Snapdragon
Kingdom:
Cheetor
Rattrap
Optimus (core class)
Cyclonus
@@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779 if it makes you feel any better, I don’t have the kingdom wave 1 deluxes yet, so you beat me to Cheetor
Personally I don't feel the need to complete lines, just get whats good from them.
@@PerspectiveEnd but u have arcee tho
I bought it because I needed to review it. Then I hated it so much, I needed to keep it for some weird reason. Don't ask me, it's not like I'm sane.
Where did you heard that cliffjumper wast meant to partsform?
Well there was a leak at some point that said that what was essentially the upgrade kit that I bought was actually supposed to be just part of the transformation, but they were making it out of a material too cheap to survive transforming, and since it kept breaking, rather than beef up the material they just cut the part from the design.
Mine broke because it was 3D printed, a more durable type of material could have lasted, especially something like a metal or something.
I must be the luckiest man on earth because none of the parts on any Earthrise figure that I own have broken off.
I'm about the same, though I've taken great care to avoid the stuff I know is weak.
Didn't the faux forming on Sunstreaker bug you? I thought it was ingenious how they got the feet to work but I thought you'd hate it
It bugs me like 1% its so incredibly minor. They honestly could have not included it and it would have changed nothing and no one would have noticed.
That bit with Arcee killed me.
I was proud of that moment. Also the absolute stupidity of Cliffjumbers explosion, though I forgot to establish why the rocket was flying sideways. So I kick my self for that every time I think of it.
I think the main reason as to why ppl say "its g1" is because of the marketing and the fact that "its the first time we get G1 again after a while"
It is definitely closer to G1 than what we got through the PWT.
think about it this way, snapdragon's dinosaur mode has to wear an adult diaper. every time i look at mine i laugh
Aw man that's mean to snap dragon. I like your style.
Fun fact: earthrise had more exclusives then regular releases
It that's true, it does not surprise me.
That's my main problem with earthrise
@@dugby4027 Alot of people really had issue with that. For me like 90% of the Exclusives were things I didn't want in the first place.
I was thinking about what you said about ER Primes proportions recently, so I compared him to Classics Prime cuz I got them standing next to each other. It has the exact same problem which makes me wonder if it's a general problem with retail Prime figures besides POTP. Don't have Siege so I can't fully compare.
The siege one has much better leg proportions. Their waists start pretty close to each other, but he legs are significantly shorter on the Siege.
@@PerspectiveEnd Looked up some pictures of em side by side and I def see it now. I think they both look great, the only time I noticed wonky proportions though was ER Megatron. I don't know what it was but something about his upper body felt, off. Like his chest was shortened which, it was, and it didn't feel right at all. And his head looked, weird. If they took this much care with IDW accuracy as they did cartoon accuracy we'd have the perfect line. I'd love official figures with those designs. Ik they used to make IDW accurate figures in the late 2000s/early 2010s but not enough to make a difference to me.
Right now the only people making IDW is MMC.
@@PerspectiveEnd I know, they look pretty cool
Does anyone else actually like cliffjumper?
Also, kingdom is looking really good so far
There are alot of people who tell me they disagree and really like that Cliffjumper. You are not alone.