I love how whenever Frank rants everything he says makes sense because like Lip says later on in the show he actually has a really brilliant mind. He could've been so successful but he dropped out of college because he met Monica
They took everything great and over the top about David Threlfall’s Frank Gallagher, upped the antics, spiced it up on the Scoville Scale, and added the magic of William H. Macy’s top tier acting.
Frank's rants and speeches show us how smart he really is he never plans them, he goes off the top of his head, he has a long and diverse vocabulary as well as charisma and a great ability to draw people in and get them to agree with what he's saying
there is no doubt that experiencing bullying is a terrible experience, but frank is absolutely correct on this one. it can make its victims more powerful then anyone can imagine
You understand this is a television show, and is not meant to be taken seriously. He's a drunk, a drug addict, a liar with a (sometimes comically) skewed view on the world. If you're just overlooking those influences on the shit Frank Gallagher says, then god damn you are a silly person.
RmZD you've never been bullied. Yes, it causes psychological long term harm and seem like life is hell. But you can learn from it, and become a stronger person later in life. You just have to not blame yourself, and let it go. That's all a victim can do.
zero8052 it makes you a stronger person, plus it thicken your skin the real world ain’t all sunshine and daisy it’s a hard place bully help harden you for the real world, but with technology bullying does more harm than it use to
i'm currently rewatching Season 4 and Frank is hands-down the best part. to be fair, Fiona becomes a terrible person and Debbie becomes almost unwatchable, but there are wonderful storylines from Lip, Ian and Mickey, and of course V and Kev, but even considering all of them, Frank is just mesmerising to watch. his relationship with Sammi too is really really sweet and moving - I know a lot of people ended up hating Sammi, but I'd recommend going back to watch her first few appearances - Frank's love for her is quite astonishing to watch, considering how selfish he usually is. whenever she laughs, he smiles at her like she's the best thing he's ever seen.
Bullying CAN make stronger people, but people who didn’t have much going for them in the first place may become wounded. That’s where mental illness comes in and struggles in later life because you didn’t know how to stand up for yourself. I didn’t even know it was a thing until highschool.
I was bullied a lot as a teen and grew up to be pretty successful academic and career wise. However it psychologically crushed me and I have to go to therapy since I have poor self esteem and social anxiety as a result. I know I'll get better at both of these but doesn't mean bullying doesn't hurt even the most successful and resilient victims.
Shameless is gritty and depicts the real world. It’s normal that as humans we find inspiration in suffering. For years, centuries, we humans have known suffering. Life involves suffering, and when we find meaning from it, we evolve as nature intended
A real dipshit. Why does a kid need to be beaten to a pulp to learn a basic lesson in life? And he just ignores any potential downside to his grand rant. Just like a scumbag does when ruining his family. If my kid gets his shit beaten I’m not going to fawn over the person that did it.
@@phunkyphresh3799 To teach the kid how horrible life and people could be. It teaches them independence. I was abused and neglected as a kid by my mom. It taught me that the only person who cares abt you the most is and you only.
@@phunkyphresh3799 it teaches kids how harsh life is. It makes them stronger as an individual. If you think the world is all flowers and rainbows and everyone is sweet like candy then you’re living in a fantasy.
@@poett8875 Bullshit you have no evidence letting your kid get beat up makes them better humans. Show a pediatric study that proves bullying and fighting benefits kids. Letting your kid her beat the fuck is only going to make them more poorly behaved and aggressive. Life’s tough but I don’t vouch for keeling over and doing nothing about it. If you have a problem either solve it find the person who can.
So there is absolutely no downside to having your kid get beat up constantly? It’s purely a good thing? Jesus Christ guys follow pediatrician advice not some hack who says shit to make you feel good.
well they do grow up, or they go to jail because people stop giving them the "you're young so it's okay" free pass. Then they need to serve those who HAD something to lose because they actually have something to contribute to society and get ahead in life.
I'm gonna keep destroying you so that there's a chance you can learn not to be destroyed in the future, just because. Oh? what's that? I should be the one to not destroy you because I'm making the world a worse place, and you shouldn't have to change your behavior just because of some spineless cowardly bully like me? Nahhh, You should just deal with all my pathetic insecurities lmao lololol XD haha
And that is the reason we have to be strong, to stand up to them, not whine about the existence of bullies, to hit them right in the face and make them cry
And that is the reason we have to be strong, to stand up to them, not whine about the existence of bullies, to hit them right in the face and make them cry
Bullying literally made me who I am today and made me stand up for myself and others every chance I get. It can break you or make you, it's all up to the person I guess..
Bullyng made me almost kill my bully, burn a backpack. Not saying that i am feeling guilty or anything, if i had the chance i would do it again, i feel no remorse. But bullying is not okay, it doesn't make people stronger.
Ngl I was bullied a lot after I moved in 3rd grade. Made me everything he said. Now I'm doing geologic presentations and living my passion, and when people try to put me down they find out I'm not so easily pushed around like I used to be.
What he says in essence is true and everyone is left speechless becuase of it. That said I'm fully against bullying and support harsher punishments for it.
hey, even if harsher punishments happen, it wont stop the cycle. Things dont get better bullying over time. It's the people who have the thick skin will make it great.
Frank is so fucking insightful in this scene Scenes like this are what make this show so great I was bullied as a kid too, it taught me not to take shit from nobody and that life isn't always smooth and beautiful There are always going to be people who shit on you no matter what Overprotected kids will have no fucking idea how to survive in the real world
i got bullied, shit made me smarter and stronger, i actually ended up actively bullying the bullies, that said though there were some at my school that didnt fair so well with bullies and didnt grow to be physically dominant if you will and being able to defend themselves. The shit still happens in adult life just in a more subtle way.
His 100% right. I got bullied as a child and I don’t regret it. Each experience taught me something and it’s made me less naive. Being bullied isn’t fun but it can also give you character.
I don't think you didnt got bullied as much as some other people. People who are afraid to go to school or want to kill themselves because they believe they are ugly/fat/whatever.
Oke but let me ask you this; what is ’weak’ exactly? Is it having no friends? Is it being picked on by all kids in your school? Is it your Mother and father arguing at home? There are a variety of ways why teenagers kill themselves and most of the times it is a multitude of things but it is NEVER because they are ‘WEAK’ you little pieces of shit.
Most comments, if not all, have the wrong focus. He is actually giving a lesson to his son (the bully). The other kids (the bullied) are only benefiting from this lesson he is giving to his son; and that is the actual genius of this scene. He is clearly illustrating to the bully the future he is aiming at, by the ways he is choosing now. And he was so effective in doing so, that he actually touched the bully's subconscious to the point that his immediate reaction was: "what if I want to cure cancer"... to which he answered: "[well, then you must change this life perspective of yours.... because with these choices, no, you won't... these life style you are choosing right now most likely will take you as far as a penitentiary. So, if you want to get somewhere else, then you need to change the direction you are going, otherwise]... you'll be lucky if you don't get gonorrhea from your cell mate." The bully will have a lot on his mind from this perspective which has now been inseminated into his brain by this Frank character. The bully simply didn't look at it this way ever before. Now he will. And to the others, including the kids, the school authorities and the parents, he said: "[I came here to give my son a lesson, and by doing so, I am helping you get rid of this problem while teaching all of you a thing or two]... You're welcome." So, when Frank said: "spoken with love, son", he was really sincere... because wisdom is love, and that is what he just delivered to him... and anyone else who is smart enough to understand. This is a great lesson in which everybody learned. This is the best game... in which everybody wins.
I got bullied from my 6th untill my 21st for being fat, ginder, a geek, a dork, etc.. You accually grow strongerminded from that. You learn to ignore it. Words don't hurt me anymore. It's like he says, a vaccin. He's fucking right.
I was bullied for four years straight from year 7 to year 10 left for a different school in my senior years Two things: Number 1 - THERE IS NO SHAME in leaving a school because of bullies THEY DO NOT WIN - YOU FUCKING WIN, Because you make new connections and get away from shit, you TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE - My High School years were fucking hell, but my Senior Years were UN-BE-FUCK-ING-EILVABLE!!!! :D:D:D:D Number 2: - Bullying hurts like hell when your an awkward teen - BUT, eventually IT MAKES YOU FUCKING STRONG! I suffered BIG TIME - BUT when I was 15 turning 16 about to start my new school I realised something - myself, no one had to tell me this I had bipolar and anxiety - and I'd hit rock bottom at 15 from bullying and mental illness I realised that quite literally - I had nothing left to loose AND the ONLY WAY TO GO WAS UP! I lost weight, I did Martial arts, I MADE MYSELF EXCEL! I read books on how to win friends and be charming to girls at 15 I Took Up Photography and archery and even acting - I'd hit Rock Bottom with misery with fuck all to loose SO I SAID FUCK IT! I'm going to try EVERYTHING! I even got a fake ID and went into nightclubs I bought a fucking used 4 wheel drive BULLYING AND MISERY AND DEPRESSION - MADE ME THE NEW LEADER OF THE NEW SCHOOL I went from Failing socially and Academically - to a Success in everything! I travelled, I hunted, I have and still do so much every year now I'm been in theatre, I'm published poems under various names, I've SET UP Bonfire Parties When I was 17 I drove from my home town over three days to a national park and hunted and saw wilderness and everything with my friends I am the best that I am now Because of those Very People who made me think I was nothing and a nobody! And because I chose to Rise rather than commit suicide! Where are those people now? One is a registered sex offender, three have done time, and they were in their 20s when they went in so yeah I'd say they were the bitches in prison, another was a lawyer and rich, got depression from having to defend scum that he lost his job and fortune and penthouse and ended up in a psychiatric ward - the very place he said I should be when we were kids I wish him well though I hope he turns out ok and another committed suicide - hung himself and ironically he was best friends with that ex-lawyer guy and he had told me I should kill myself Strangely I feel no sense of victory over those two, they had happen to them what they said would happen to me
hope my advise helped you Kent your enemies hurt can make or break you but dont be afriad to get help - getting help is what started me out I own a house with no mortgage and a unit that I rent out I am secure I am experienced You can say fuck life or fuck trying ot you can say FUCK IT - get out, get help and dont be suprised or ashamed if you fall back at first - it happened to me about 4 times and that is the hardest part work out a strategy - physiologists NOT leftist councellors they are fucking useless! get away find a martial art I hated sports before but exercise makes endorphines in your mind and fittness is essential yoiu can do it kent!
I was bullied in middle and high school, including repeated physical assaults by both boys and girls - this is only funny because it's on Showtime. In real life it would be appalling, and anyone who says "Frank's the Man" should either walk in a bullying victim's shoes for a day or think long and hard about what may have happened to them once but they have since forgot. The Columbine shooters were bullying victims, and look how they turned out (I know, worst case example). We don't say "Rape, torture and genocide are a vital part of any ecosystem," do we?
He is right though. All this time people put me through hell and I'm still here doing fine. Stronger and very much more resilient. And I know now that no matter what happens in life I have to face every situation and know that I have the strength and endurance to it. I will cry of course. But I will wipe my tears and will hold my head up and face every obstacle life throws at me.
He's right about some parts but it's more complex than that, being bullied trains the victim to get used to that specific environment and that isn't automatically a positive thing, for example if the kid is being bullied for being ethical and respectful and turns into someone who is rude and threatening in order to survive in that environment then it could completely ruin his/her future in the workplace and university. So it really depends, the positive is that they might learn what is considered social norms but the negative is they might pick up behaviors that keeps them from being successful in life.
Why is everyone fighting about which show is best, I mean seriously ?! Yes at first we could compare them since they had really close plot (especially in season 1) but now I'm pretty sure Shameless US deviate in lof of way from the UK version ( The plot for Fiona for exemple).They are different tv shows ( My favorite character is not the same in the UK and the US, they are different now since they don't have the same story ...) . Both of them have different strenght and weakness.
Imagine raping/robbing/physically assaulting someone and going to court: "Your honor, but they will get tougher in life, I was actually doing them a favor" Judge: "Wow you were actually doing community service, you are free to go, watch your step as you leave and have a good day Sir!"
It’s a harsh truth, but learning to deal with a bully helps you later in life. It teaches conflict resolution skills. Then again these days EVERYTHING is labeled as bullying. It’s sad really. Sure the kids are safe and have high self esteem but then when they leave college, they have no idea how to deal with a bully and they are in their twenties.
I don t know man.I was bullied for four years,rarely physically but a lot of insults,remarks and exclusion by some 4 or 5 shits who bullied mostly anyone. Those were bad years,esp. the first 2 but I managed to survive this bullying. Have I become stronger?I do not think so.I just stopped trusting people and became less social. I shaped my personality in University where I become a cruel,heartless jock. So yeah,I really think bullying is not helping you in any way. There was this kid in my class who was also bullied by those shits(most of them are now failures) and let me tell you,they beat him up mercilessly everyday,they even managed to kick him in the jaw that the guy actually bit his tongue,they stepped on his head and drew dicks on his face,they even forced him to eat dirt with milk.That guy commited suicide at 19 because he was so far behind refusing to go to school for two years and the fact that his mother left him and his father was a garbage man didn t helped at all....Draw the conclusion.
schools in the real world would tell the bully to say he was sorry and then cheer like they cured cancer assume everything is going to be fine and dandy now, while the bully will now have more motivation.
And that bullying that Carl suffered that day may have made him the most well rounded and put together person on this show... ... or well, at least currently
With Carl’s upbringing it’s no surprise he was able to kick the asses of kids that were twice his size sure they were both cheap shots but the fact that he did so with no hesitation and still talked shit to them afterwards really shows Frank is right, also loved how Carl seems cool with the fact Frank basically insulted him and saying he has no real future.
The best part about this rant is that he is absolutely not wrong at all. I was bullied to elementary school middle school and high school and now I’m in my mid 30s and I have dated some of the most gorgeous women and my bullies are all fat and have had over five children, and some of them have even lost most of their hair on top of their heads And they look miserable as hell so trust me if you’re getting bullied believe this guy he absolutely knows what he’s talking about 💯😂
Frank very smart person living life on his terms got to love it !! To many people live life the way other want them to live . That is not living . Bullying, kids need to stand up for themselves. I remember being in the 3rd grade boy 2 years older than me kept pushing me around. Well one day he came into my yard pushing me around 1 to many times I picked up my baseball bat broke his arm.. From that day forward NO one ever messed with me they stayed clear that followed me all the way thru HIGH School. Now the world is run by a bunch of people that think participation teaches you something no losers we don't keep score !! I call bullshit you learn from your mistakes in life !!You know how many times Ben Franklin failed before he discovered Electricity. Then the same before lightbulb was a success . What if back then everyone was treated the same ??? Just think how average our country is becoming because we want everyone to feel special that is life and life gets rid of the weak. You learn to toughen up or else !!Life is not ease you have to work for it !! you are what ou are simple !! ADAPT & OVERCOME....
Seriously, this country really needs to harden the fuck up. Nowadays too many whiny pussies out there who should have been bullied in their youth. Those who didn't instead get easily offended by everything ..thin skin, want everything handed to them without having to work for it (lawsuit happy) etc
+ariellamusicxo I wouldn't be the rough tough son of a bitch I am today if people didn't try putting me down. I learned to be resiliant and fight back. I'd say i'm doing well for myself. It is actually a good thing (To an extent of course) Someone in the real world is going to always try and put you down and if you've never had to deal with it or learned how to deal with it, then you're a lost cause.
Bullying still isn't right nobody deserves to feel worthless nobody should have to be in fear of somebody I was bullied also so I know how it felt and it didn't feel good... Idk how somebody could stick up for it +Tyler Adams
+ariellamusicxo getting punched in the face doesn't make you feel worthless, it makes you feel like you got punched in the face. The point Frank is trying to make is that its not the end of the world. There are far worse things out there than getting bullied by someone who will be your inferior in 10 years time. It happens, you learn from it. Our PC culture is obsessed with trying to save our delicate sensitivities. But its those sensitivities that need to be tested. The real world is a bully. How do you protect someone from reality? VR?
+primeafk yes some people fought it and it made them stronger like myself but some didn't some people killed themselves because of it at the end of the day bullying isn't okay
Wait, Liam is 10 now right? So ten years from this moment passed and Carl really was wearing an orange jumpsuit collecting garbage! FRANK CAN SEE THE FUTURE!
His rants are the best thing about this show honestly
*laughs sarcastically* My favorite rant is between Canada and The Police.
I SWEAR THEY ARE!!!!
NO Carl is the best thing in this WHOLE show
But his rant's are funny
Do you believe his when he says that bullying builds character?
His rants are the only reason I watch, they're hilarious!
I love how whenever Frank rants everything he says makes sense because like Lip says later on in the show he actually has a really brilliant mind. He could've been so successful but he dropped out of college because he met Monica
His brilliant mind was evident since season 1
Kiki i
Lip is exactly like Frank. Smart but prone to self destruct, and also goes heavy on the booze
Like father like son
@@superfoo8258yeah true
LMAO they're reaction at the end.
"Eh, the guy brought up good points."
Lmao
Frank always makes sense lol
"Be lucky you don't get gonnorrhea from your soul mate"
Dat foreshadowing doe
Franklin Marichal He said cell mate. As in jail cell
I heard soul mate too...
Lannister Power he thought he did tho 😭😂
Dude, Im dead lmao.
Cell mate, not soul mate, since the kid is destined for jail, not a career.
“My kid will be picking up garbage roadside in an orange suit”
Well that aged well
That actually came true 😆
@@Lily_Catt- he cop now in season 11????
Literally no one could play Frank Gallagher better than William H Macy. He was born for the role.
I completely agree. As much as I love Woody Harrelson, they made the right choice
They took everything great and over the top about David Threlfall’s Frank Gallagher, upped the antics, spiced it up on the Scoville Scale, and added the magic of William H. Macy’s top tier acting.
When he starts talking, preaching his ideas that sometimes make sense it's almost like hearing George Carlin in his late years ;))
Haha haha
He does look like George in this moment.
'Spoken with love, son."
Frank's rants and speeches show us how smart he really is he never plans them, he goes off the top of his head, he has a long and diverse vocabulary as well as charisma and a great ability to draw people in and get them to agree with what he's saying
He looks like an older version of you, Luke-
@@he-man36 Frank basically is Luke from the last mistake.. I mean "the last Jedi"
Kids = Franks a grumpy old man
Teens to adult = Franks a legend
he's an iconic legend but he's also a grumpy old man. guess which I am?
Rupsha Ya Skull elaborate?
If you’re a kid reading this ignore them. You’re amazing ❤️
From my knowledge kids don't watch this show
@@danielyourestillachad5542pre teen
"Your son will be curing cancer and getting laid my son will be picking up street garbage in an orange jumpsuit,your welcome" 😂😂😂😂loved that part
there is no doubt that experiencing bullying is a terrible experience, but frank is absolutely correct on this one. it can make its victims more powerful then anyone can imagine
You understand this is a television show, and is not meant to be taken seriously. He's a drunk, a drug addict, a liar with a (sometimes comically) skewed view on the world. If you're just overlooking those influences on the shit Frank Gallagher says, then god damn you are a silly person.
RmZD you've never been bullied. Yes, it causes psychological long term harm and seem like life is hell. But you can learn from it, and become a stronger person later in life. You just have to not blame yourself, and let it go. That's all a victim can do.
RmZD I’m guessing you get bullied a lot
sdaftermath123 yh that’s why some commit suicide dumb shit
zero8052 it makes you a stronger person, plus it thicken your skin the real world ain’t all sunshine and daisy it’s a hard place bully help harden you for the real world, but with technology bullying does more harm than it use to
I have to really praise William H Macy performance in this Season 👍
He was born for the part
i'm currently rewatching Season 4 and Frank is hands-down the best part.
to be fair, Fiona becomes a terrible person and Debbie becomes almost unwatchable, but there are wonderful storylines from Lip, Ian and Mickey, and of course V and Kev, but even considering all of them, Frank is just mesmerising to watch. his relationship with Sammi too is really really sweet and moving - I know a lot of people ended up hating Sammi, but I'd recommend going back to watch her first few appearances - Frank's love for her is quite astonishing to watch, considering how selfish he usually is. whenever she laughs, he smiles at her like she's the best thing he's ever seen.
Bullying CAN make stronger people, but people who didn’t have much going for them in the first place may become wounded. That’s where mental illness comes in and struggles in later life because you didn’t know how to stand up for yourself. I didn’t even know it was a thing until highschool.
I was bullied a lot as a teen and grew up to be pretty successful academic and career wise. However it psychologically crushed me and I have to go to therapy since I have poor self esteem and social anxiety as a result. I know I'll get better at both of these but doesn't mean bullying doesn't hurt even the most successful and resilient victims.
The amount of people here that don't understand this scene is not intended as serious and inspirational but rather as peak comedy.
Shameless is gritty and depicts the real world. It’s normal that as humans we find inspiration in suffering. For years, centuries, we humans have known suffering. Life involves suffering, and when we find meaning from it, we evolve as nature intended
@@careforjusticealwaysthe human condition indeed.
The struggle is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Frank happy.
Frank maybe a drunk, but he ain't afraid to be real.
A real dipshit. Why does a kid need to be beaten to a pulp to learn a basic lesson in life? And he just ignores any potential downside to his grand rant. Just like a scumbag does when ruining his family.
If my kid gets his shit beaten I’m not going to fawn over the person that did it.
@@phunkyphresh3799 To teach the kid how horrible life and people could be. It teaches them independence. I was abused and neglected as a kid by my mom. It taught me that the only person who cares abt you the most is and you only.
@@phunkyphresh3799 it teaches kids how harsh life is. It makes them stronger as an individual. If you think the world is all flowers and rainbows and everyone is sweet like candy then you’re living in a fantasy.
@@poett8875 Bullshit you have no evidence letting your kid get beat up makes them better humans. Show a pediatric study that proves bullying and fighting benefits kids.
Letting your kid her beat the fuck is only going to make them more poorly behaved and aggressive. Life’s tough but I don’t vouch for keeling over and doing nothing about it. If you have a problem either solve it find the person who can.
@@phunkyphresh3799 ur ass definitely got bullied get ur soft ass tf outta here LMFAOO grow tf up lil boy😭😭😂😒
As much as I hate Frank, whenever he goes on rants he's usually right lol
No, he's not. He's just doing intellectual jerk-off to avoid his responsabilities
So there is absolutely no downside to having your kid get beat up constantly? It’s purely a good thing?
Jesus Christ guys follow pediatrician advice not some hack who says shit to make you feel good.
Calm down snowflakes 🙄
Evereen124 I apologize for not calling you a dipshit kindly enough.
Phunky Phresh apology accepted you little cry baby bitch boy.
P.S. - If the world is a rough place, it's partly because of all the bullies who never grew up.
well they do grow up, or they go to jail because people stop giving them the "you're young so it's okay" free pass. Then they need to serve those who HAD something to lose because they actually have something to contribute to society and get ahead in life.
You should be bullied for that comment
I'm gonna keep destroying you so that there's a chance you can learn not to be destroyed in the future, just because.
Oh? what's that? I should be the one to not destroy you because I'm making the world a worse place, and you shouldn't have to change your behavior just because of some spineless cowardly bully like me? Nahhh, You should just deal with all my pathetic insecurities lmao lololol XD haha
And that is the reason we have to be strong, to stand up to them, not whine about the existence of bullies, to hit them right in the face and make them cry
And that is the reason we have to be strong, to stand up to them, not whine about the existence of bullies, to hit them right in the face and make them cry
“Don’t look a day over 90.” Lmao 😂😂😂😂
Bullying literally made me who I am today and made me stand up for myself and others every chance I get. It can break you or make you, it's all up to the person I guess..
Bullyng made me almost kill my bully, burn a backpack. Not saying that i am feeling guilty or anything, if i had the chance i would do it again, i feel no remorse. But bullying is not okay, it doesn't make people stronger.
The fact he protects his community now is shocking
I watched this scene like 4 times over after I saw it. fucking epic rant.
ethan L Canada was my favorite
I was bullied in school and let me tell you it taught me resilience and made me all the stronger.
Bullying doesn’t necessarily make kids stronger. Sometimes it just breaks them.
Skill issue
@@pyronfox what happens when grown-ups fail to give these kids the proper skills?
@@Random_Wierdo. skill issue
But the fact of the matter is they messed with carl first so.....
No they didn't...
Season 4 Frank was the best Frank by a mile!
So much better than the UK version
Zege Ikr
@TSY8609 *Skins flasbacks*
There a UK version?
Prince Levi it’s the original
I’m From England and totally agree
That award moment when his soul mate actually does have gonorrhea
Angela Bell He said Cell mate
*awkward
his "you're welcome" just about killed me XD
Ngl I was bullied a lot after I moved in 3rd grade. Made me everything he said. Now I'm doing geologic presentations and living my passion, and when people try to put me down they find out I'm not so easily pushed around like I used to be.
His rants are hilarious, yet oddly on point 😂
What he says in essence is true and everyone is left speechless becuase of it.
That said I'm fully against bullying and support harsher punishments for it.
hey, even if harsher punishments happen, it wont stop the cycle. Things dont get better bullying over time. It's the people who have the thick skin will make it great.
It’s like racial hatred he will never get better because humans fear what they can’t control
Frank is so fucking insightful in this scene
Scenes like this are what make this show so great
I was bullied as a kid too, it taught me not to take shit from nobody and that life isn't always smooth and beautiful
There are always going to be people who shit on you no matter what
Overprotected kids will have no fucking idea how to survive in the real world
I want to kill myself because of bullies.
Look at Carl, Frank basically called his son a loser in the making and he didn’t seem bothered by it
The stupidity of this comment. Psychological research prove the opposite of what you are saying. And my experience also.
i got bullied, shit made me smarter and stronger, i actually ended up actively bullying the bullies, that said though there were some at my school that didnt fair so well with bullies and didnt grow to be physically dominant if you will and being able to defend themselves. The shit still happens in adult life just in a more subtle way.
hmm great story, tell us how you bully people. Sounds like youre just like them kiddo :)
Frank is one of the most underratedly brilliant characters in tv show history. Could've probably been a millionaire if he never met Monica.
His 100% right. I got bullied as a child and I don’t regret it. Each experience taught me something and it’s made me less naive. Being bullied isn’t fun but it can also give you character.
I don't think you didnt got bullied as much as some other people. People who are afraid to go to school or want to kill themselves because they believe they are ugly/fat/whatever.
AS no way
@@lucaaz14 in easier terms to what @stiffyjonez said. They were weak
Oke but let me ask you this; what is ’weak’ exactly?
Is it having no friends? Is it being picked on by all kids in your school? Is it your Mother and father arguing at home?
There are a variety of ways why teenagers kill themselves and most of the times it is a multitude of things but it is NEVER because they are ‘WEAK’ you little pieces of shit.
L darwinism, sad but true
He's kind of a genius
He was going to college like lip when he was his age then he met Monica
@@user-rl2rw3tp6s and of course the bitch ruined it like she does everything
Frank is a fantastic actor absolutely did great job.
lol and he was right😂 carl didn’t end up lucky on the gonnorea part
He did end up picking up garbage in a jumpsuit
And Carl’s only response is “bruh”
Most comments, if not all, have the wrong focus. He is actually giving a lesson to his son (the bully). The other kids (the bullied) are only benefiting from this lesson he is giving to his son; and that is the actual genius of this scene.
He is clearly illustrating to the bully the future he is aiming at, by the ways he is choosing now. And he was so effective in doing so, that he actually touched the bully's subconscious to the point that his immediate reaction was: "what if I want to cure cancer"... to which he answered: "[well, then you must change this life perspective of yours.... because with these choices, no, you won't... these life style you are choosing right now most likely will take you as far as a penitentiary. So, if you want to get somewhere else, then you need to change the direction you are going, otherwise]... you'll be lucky if you don't get gonorrhea from your cell mate."
The bully will have a lot on his mind from this perspective which has now been inseminated into his brain by this Frank character. The bully simply didn't look at it this way ever before. Now he will.
And to the others, including the kids, the school authorities and the parents, he said: "[I came here to give my son a lesson, and by doing so, I am helping you get rid of this problem while teaching all of you a thing or two]... You're welcome."
So, when Frank said: "spoken with love, son", he was really sincere... because wisdom is love, and that is what he just delivered to him... and anyone else who is smart enough to understand.
This is a great lesson in which everybody learned.
This is the best game... in which everybody wins.
I got bullied from my 6th untill my 21st for being fat, ginder, a geek, a dork, etc.. You accually grow strongerminded from that. You learn to ignore it. Words don't hurt me anymore. It's like he says, a vaccin. He's fucking right.
Shrimp same with me except with abusive relationships, I was never bullied
Shrimp wouldn't that motivate you to lose weight?
I was bullied for four years straight from year 7 to year 10
left for a different school in my senior years
Two things:
Number 1
- THERE IS NO SHAME in leaving a school because of bullies
THEY DO NOT WIN - YOU FUCKING WIN, Because you make new connections and get away from shit, you TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR LIFE - My High School years were fucking hell, but my Senior Years were UN-BE-FUCK-ING-EILVABLE!!!! :D:D:D:D
Number 2:
- Bullying hurts like hell when your an awkward teen - BUT, eventually IT MAKES YOU FUCKING STRONG!
I suffered BIG TIME - BUT when I was 15 turning 16 about to start my new school
I realised something - myself, no one had to tell me this
I had bipolar and anxiety - and I'd hit rock bottom at 15 from bullying and mental illness
I realised that quite literally - I had nothing left to loose AND the ONLY WAY TO GO WAS UP!
I lost weight, I did Martial arts, I MADE MYSELF EXCEL!
I read books on how to win friends and be charming to girls at 15
I Took Up Photography and archery and even acting - I'd hit Rock Bottom with misery with fuck all to loose
SO I SAID FUCK IT! I'm going to try EVERYTHING!
I even got a fake ID and went into nightclubs
I bought a fucking used 4 wheel drive
BULLYING AND MISERY AND DEPRESSION - MADE ME THE NEW LEADER OF THE NEW SCHOOL
I went from Failing socially and Academically - to a Success in everything!
I travelled, I hunted, I have and still do so much every year now
I'm been in theatre, I'm published poems under various names, I've SET UP Bonfire Parties
When I was 17 I drove from my home town over three days to a national park and hunted and saw wilderness and everything with my friends
I am the best that I am now Because of those Very People who made me think I was nothing and a nobody!
And because I chose to Rise rather than commit suicide!
Where are those people now?
One is a registered sex offender, three have done time, and they were in their 20s when they went in so yeah I'd say they were the bitches in prison, another was a lawyer and rich, got depression from having to defend scum that he lost his job and fortune and penthouse and ended up in a psychiatric ward - the very place he said I should be when we were kids
I wish him well though I hope he turns out ok
and another committed suicide - hung himself and ironically he was best friends with that ex-lawyer guy and he had told me I should kill myself
Strangely I feel no sense of victory over those two, they had happen to them what they said would happen to me
Safari For Fun of Soul sound like sweet justice to me. I hate bullies
hope my advise helped you Kent
your enemies hurt can make or break you
but dont be afriad to get help - getting help is what started me out
I own a house with no mortgage and a unit that I rent out
I am secure I am experienced
You can say fuck life or fuck trying ot you can say FUCK IT - get out, get help and dont be suprised or ashamed if you fall back at first - it happened to me about 4 times and that is the hardest part
work out a strategy - physiologists NOT leftist councellors they are fucking useless!
get away find a martial art
I hated sports before but exercise makes endorphines in your mind and fittness is essential
yoiu can do it kent!
The best part of this is that everyone in the room knows that Frank is speaking facts 💯😅
I was bullied in middle and high school, including repeated physical assaults by both boys and girls - this is only funny because it's on Showtime. In real life it would be appalling, and anyone who says "Frank's the Man" should either walk in a bullying victim's shoes for a day or think long and hard about what may have happened to them once but they have since forgot. The Columbine shooters were bullying victims, and look how they turned out (I know, worst case example).
We don't say "Rape, torture and genocide are a vital part of any ecosystem," do we?
Preach
+Steve Wilson That bitchiness is why you'll always get your ass whooped even when you're a 35 year old man
+Matt Josh lol you're right
+Matt Josh lol you're right
+Matt Josh lol you're right
He is right though. All this time people put me through hell and I'm still here doing fine. Stronger and very much more resilient. And I know now that no matter what happens in life I have to face every situation and know that I have the strength and endurance to it. I will cry of course. But I will wipe my tears and will hold my head up and face every obstacle life throws at me.
What if I want to cure cancer?
You'd be lucky if you got Gonorrhea from your cell mate, spoken with love son.
I love Frank's rants
using this for a monologue, mannn everything he says is great
Frank's the man ;-)
i just realized this foreshadowed carl getting gonorhea
0:23 that had to be one of those unplanned laughs that they decided to keep in
dawg the ending tho
Frank is the ultimate prophet of our time. His knows all the truth. His words are full of wisdom and he speaks with faith at heart
BRO THE LAST PART GOT ME LAUGHING SO HARD TO THE POINT I TEARED UP HE WENT SO FAST
"what if I wanna cure cancer"
That's honestly so sad.
There was so much foreshadowing to Carl in the later seasons here .. everything he said actually happened
He just died last night from a heart attack 😔😔😔 RIP to him.
We will forever love him and miss his smartassery ❤️❤️❤️
Frank just predicted Carl’s future before us 😮
man thanks for uploading this part...
It's crazy how Lip gets his Intelligence from Frank. Frank may be the smartest person on the whole show. If not for his fuck ups lol.
Yes it is dumbass
I needed to hear this speech.
Frank gives the “best” life lessons
He’s giving both sides a lessons. Nerds keep doing what they’re doing & it’ll be fine. His kid keeps up his act, he’ll be at the bottom.
This is so hard to argue against
He's right about some parts but it's more complex than that,
being bullied trains the victim to get used to that specific environment and that isn't automatically a positive thing, for example if the kid is being bullied for being ethical and respectful and turns into someone who is rude and threatening in order to survive in that environment then it could completely ruin his/her future in the workplace and university.
So it really depends, the positive is that they might learn what is considered social norms but the negative is they might pick up behaviors that keeps them from being successful in life.
That’s the lady who made the “shit pie” in scary movie, LOL!
The way frank actually predicted Carl picking up trash in a orange jumpsuit
Not a false word spoken. Way to go Frank.
Why is everyone fighting about which show is best, I mean seriously ?!
Yes at first we could compare them since they had really close plot (especially in season 1) but now I'm pretty sure Shameless US deviate in lof of way from the UK version ( The plot for Fiona for exemple).They are different tv shows ( My favorite character is not the same in the UK and the US, they are different now since they don't have the same story ...)
. Both of them have different strenght and weakness.
She said "I eam so proowd of you deead"
William H. Macy was snubbedddd
Wen Frank said my son will be picking up garbage in 10 years it happened in season 10
I Like the fact the Carl didn’t seem to care about the fact Frank basically shitted all over him.
Imagine raping/robbing/physically assaulting someone and going to court: "Your honor, but they will get tougher in life, I was actually doing them a favor"
Judge: "Wow you were actually doing community service, you are free to go, watch your step as you leave and have a good day Sir!"
He was just talking abt bullying. Chill. And if you go through that n stay alive, it makes u even tougher on the inside.
He was talking about bullying. Stop reaching.
@@kashmirigirl22 it's literally the same thing
Frank halfway predicted Carl’s future
It’s a harsh truth, but learning to deal with a bully helps you later in life. It teaches conflict resolution skills. Then again these days EVERYTHING is labeled as bullying. It’s sad really. Sure the kids are safe and have high self esteem but then when they leave college, they have no idea how to deal with a bully and they are in their twenties.
Love this show.
Frank has to be the most wise person ever‼️
Crazy how Carl a cop now😂
i loved how they filmed in my school like why do i find that funny
I need a father like Frank 😂😂😂😂😂
Really??? Yikes
Queen Maya Frank basically Called his son a failure
I love how he mentioned him picking up garbage in a orange jumpsuit does anyone else get that reference.
I don t know man.I was bullied for four years,rarely physically but a lot of insults,remarks and exclusion by some 4 or 5 shits who bullied mostly anyone.
Those were bad years,esp. the first 2 but I managed to survive this bullying.
Have I become stronger?I do not think so.I just stopped trusting people and became less social.
I shaped my personality in University where I become a cruel,heartless jock.
So yeah,I really think bullying is not helping you in any way.
There was this kid in my class who was also bullied by those shits(most of them are now failures) and let me tell you,they beat him up mercilessly everyday,they even managed to kick him in the jaw that the guy actually bit his tongue,they stepped on his head and drew dicks on his face,they even forced him to eat dirt with milk.That guy commited suicide at 19 because he was so far behind refusing to go to school for two years and the fact that his mother left him and his father was a garbage man didn t helped at all....Draw the conclusion.
Frank Gallagher is my own personal Jesus!
schools in the real world would tell the bully to say he was sorry and then cheer like they cured cancer assume everything is going to be fine and dandy now, while the bully will now have more motivation.
And that bullying that Carl suffered that day may have made him the most well rounded and put together person on this show...
... or well, at least currently
With Carl’s upbringing it’s no surprise he was able to kick the asses of kids that were twice his size sure they were both cheap shots but the fact that he did so with no hesitation and still talked shit to them afterwards really shows Frank is right, also loved how Carl seems cool with the fact Frank basically insulted him and saying he has no real future.
1:38 welp Frank saw the latest season
1:50 he predicted Dom and guided Carl towards the right path
Truer words were never said.
“Bullying is a vital part of every ecosystem. It teaches kids resilience.” I mean he’s not wrong😂
Frank’s advice worked. He used to bully Ian all the time and now look at him.
I will always argue that this is the best season of shameless
To a certain degree, yes…
It depends on the type of bullying and how far it goes.
“Dont look a day over 90” 😂😂😂😂
The best part about this rant is that he is absolutely not wrong at all. I was bullied to elementary school middle school and high school and now I’m in my mid 30s and I have dated some of the most gorgeous women and my bullies are all fat and have had over five children, and some of them have even lost most of their hair on top of their heads And they look miserable as hell so trust me if you’re getting bullied believe this guy he absolutely knows what he’s talking about 💯😂
Frank very smart person living life on his terms got to love it !! To many people live life the way other want them to live . That is not living . Bullying, kids need to stand up for themselves. I remember being in the 3rd grade boy 2 years older than me kept pushing me around. Well one day he came into my yard pushing me around 1 to many times I picked up my baseball bat broke his arm.. From that day forward NO one ever messed with me they stayed clear that followed me all the way thru HIGH School.
Now the world is run by a bunch of people that think participation teaches you something no losers we don't keep score !! I call bullshit you learn from your mistakes in life !!You know how many times Ben Franklin failed before he discovered Electricity. Then the same before lightbulb was a success . What if back then everyone was treated the same ???
Just think how average our country is becoming because we want everyone to feel special that is life and life gets rid of the weak. You learn to toughen up or else !!Life is not ease you have to work for it !! you are what ou are simple !! ADAPT & OVERCOME....
Seriously, this country really needs to harden the fuck up. Nowadays too many whiny pussies out there who should have been bullied in their youth. Those who didn't instead get easily offended by everything ..thin skin, want everything handed to them without having to work for it (lawsuit happy) etc
Spoken with love son😅
So basically making people feel worthless is okay because it teaches them a lesson? No bullying isn't okay nor will it ever be
+ariellamusicxo I wouldn't be the rough tough son of a bitch I am today if people didn't try putting me down. I learned to be resiliant and fight back. I'd say i'm doing well for myself. It is actually a good thing (To an extent of course) Someone in the real world is going to always try and put you down and if you've never had to deal with it or learned how to deal with it, then you're a lost cause.
Bullying still isn't right nobody deserves to feel worthless nobody should have to be in fear of somebody I was bullied also so I know how it felt and it didn't feel good... Idk how somebody could stick up for it +Tyler Adams
+ariellamusicxo getting punched in the face doesn't make you feel worthless, it makes you feel like you got punched in the face. The point Frank is trying to make is that its not the end of the world. There are far worse things out there than getting bullied by someone who will be your inferior in 10 years time. It happens, you learn from it. Our PC culture is obsessed with trying to save our delicate sensitivities. But its those sensitivities that need to be tested. The real world is a bully. How do you protect someone from reality? VR?
+primeafk I'm just saying people shouldn't stick up for it
+primeafk yes some people fought it and it made them stronger like myself but some didn't some people killed themselves because of it at the end of the day bullying isn't okay
i thought he was saying bullshit at first and then.... damn 😭
Wait, Liam is 10 now right? So ten years from this moment passed and Carl really was wearing an orange jumpsuit collecting garbage! FRANK CAN SEE THE FUTURE!
Not 10 years about 6/7