@@montychauhan9954 Yeah your right, the purpose is different. Since I am in mid 30s now. Scram suits me now. But the service aspect of RE is very bad compared to Triumph/Bajaj. My elder bro once a triumph rocket 3r and I can vouch that the service experience is a gem at triumph.
Can't say I'm interested in specs what interests me is fit and finish, and here the Enfield wins hands down. To me the Triumph is built down to a price point whereas the Enfield is built up to a quality.
Scrambler vs Adventure bike.... Are they really to compare...?. Well, Himalayan is more versatile, that’s a fact. The X400 is more stylish, that’s my opinion 😉
In fact it's the Scrambler which is more versatile. Nimble in City, Can do cornering and can do off roading as well. On the contrary Himalayan is a propose specific bike which is built for offroading! If you ride it anywhere else I guess it'll leave you wanting for more!
@@myselfyuvi that's what scramblers are, jack of all trades master of none.... But, RE himalayan is offroad rally bike purpose built for dakar rally... It will also be India's first indigenously built engine to enter Dakar as hero outsourced the engine for dakar rallies... It's like r15, ktm RC vs karizma/gixxer sf... R15/RC is no nonsense sport bike while gixxer and karizma tries to please everyone.. Purpose built bike will always win over wannabe bikes.. Triumph should launch tiger 400 to compete with himalayan...
Tough decision, i don't know why but I just think that the himy will be a simpler machine! Lot's of hidden sensors and crap on the triumph! I have the original bs4 himalayan for 5 years now and it's simple, i service it myself and do all the work myself, i enjoy it. The after sales of re is really good here in the UK, no doubt triumph is too but i just don't need them once warranty has gone. My friends gs has to go into the garage for a service, is triumph the same? I want to service my bike myself on my driveway and royal enfield allows me to do that very cheaply too...... For me it's the enfield, cheaper and just as reliable in my opinion, go absolutely anywhere on my trips and a 21in front wheel for our uk pot holed roads...... Just my opinion. And don't forget the triumph has 37nm of torque at 6500rpm and the enfield has 40nm at just 5000rpm so the power will always be right there! Oh ps the triumph does look sweet and my dream bike is a bonny t120 😂
If you dont go for mountain invading or mud splashing every month then take the Triumph.... its better choice for ppl who go to office everyday and once or twice to the mountains. :)
Though on paper both looks on par. I would prefer Triumph any day because of the after sales issues you get on a RE, constant wear and tare of parts, as well as a crappy service experience of RE. I had aRE for 14 years and sold it and now switching to scrambler 400x.
Was a decision between these two. But the existence of Spoked Tubeless tires and the console provided by Himalayan makes it a clear winner. Though it's not the same segment... Let's see what triumph brings with the Tiger model in the same category
But design is copied from Hero Xpulse. I think they could have done better with the design. Previous Himalayan was unique looking. The instrument cluster is lit though.
But triumph fit and finish is very well then himalaian and himalaian has a story of breaking apart on different situations. Still don't know why I want to go with himalaian. My brain wants 400x but heart wants himalaian 😅😅
@@shahadsorwar3843 Yes, the Triumph is a more versatile bike. It can be used on the road and for mild off-roading. Cruising in highways is also easy going on the Triumph. The Himalayan is a adventure segment motorcycle. Primarily meant for Off-roading n little on road rides. Less versatility but stronger performance in drastic situations. Depends on ur needs and taste. Choose accordingly.
Himalayan pros : 1. Simple machine. 2. Much more torque on low RPMs. 3. RE more smiles per mile experience. 4. More ground clearance. Rest everything is almost same in both bikes. Edit : 5. Easier to maintain. Military ruggedness.
Not really a fair comparison. The Triumph is a road bike with off-road pretentions and the Himalayan is an off-road bike with on-road pretentions. They serve two different functions. Having said that the video was done nicely 😊
The Himalayan makes +.07PS over the Tiger 400 & not +0.70PS. So almost no difference and a bit of an error on your part! The Triumph is also £28 per annum cheaper for VFL in the UK, as it's under 400cc.
Don't see any difference between the 2 bikes basically in terms of ride quality, Hope the Himalayan does not get the vibrations that you see in the Triumph when you rev them
It'll have more vibrations. High capacity high compression single cylinder will ALWAYS have vibrations!!! And if you have seen itchy boots vlogs, it's quite clear by looking at handlebar and RVMs!
Triumph has the expertise in making SCRAMBLER motorcycles. I have ridden the 400x and let me tell you it's definitely not a sheep if not a wolf.. Yes it may not be a full blown off reader like the new Himalayan with 200mm suspension travel and 230mm Ground clearance but it surely does everything with ease, cornering, going through City traffic,dealing with Rough/Bad roads, the suspension have a sense of DUALITY, the absorb and provide utmost cushion in bad conditions but don't get spongy when going hard in the corners😊 And I guess Scrambling means doing everything possible on a motorcycle. Very capable!
@@montychauhan9954 Royal enfield was first British, then it was made in chennai, now again they are doing the r&d at their UK centre and manufacturing it here in Chennai. Isn't it similar what Triumph has done? R&D in the UK, manufactured at the Bajaj plant in India.
@montychauhan9954 What difference does that really make? 🤔 After all Bajaj has finely executed the Scrambler 400x and Speed 400. The refinement, chassis, suspension everything is upto the Triumph standards.
Triump also has slipper asist clutch
Himalayan for me, superior on almost all counts, even the looks, fabulous. I am expecting it to be priced cheaper, also.
That would be expensive then scrambler for sure
Looks?! Are you kidding?! The bike looks plain ugly if not the ugliest!
Service experience is crap in RE. I have 14 years of experience in RE bike. Sold the bike and booked a scrambler 400x.
@@napster6185 but the purpose that himalayan can fulfill scrambler can not , i think ktm 390x is the best option , it is but expensive but worthy
@@montychauhan9954 Yeah your right, the purpose is different. Since I am in mid 30s now. Scram suits me now. But the service aspect of RE is very bad compared to Triumph/Bajaj. My elder bro once a triumph rocket 3r and I can vouch that the service experience is a gem at triumph.
Wish all bike comparisons were this straightforward and informative!
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Most of them are.
Himalayan gets a digital instrument cluster which is awesome. Google maps especially
Can't say I'm interested in specs what interests me is fit and finish, and here the Enfield wins hands down. To me the Triumph is built down to a price point whereas the Enfield is built up to a quality.
Scrambler vs Adventure bike.... Are they really to compare...?. Well, Himalayan is more versatile, that’s a fact. The X400 is more stylish, that’s my opinion 😉
In fact it's the Scrambler which is more versatile. Nimble in City, Can do cornering and can do off roading as well.
On the contrary Himalayan is a propose specific bike which is built for offroading!
If you ride it anywhere else I guess it'll leave you wanting for more!
@@myselfyuvi that's what scramblers are,
jack of all trades master of none....
But, RE himalayan is offroad rally bike purpose built for dakar rally... It will also be India's first indigenously built engine to enter Dakar as hero outsourced the engine for dakar rallies...
It's like r15, ktm RC vs karizma/gixxer sf... R15/RC is no nonsense sport bike while gixxer and karizma tries to please everyone..
Purpose built bike will always win over wannabe bikes..
Triumph should launch tiger 400 to compete with himalayan...
Tough decision, i don't know why but I just think that the himy will be a simpler machine! Lot's of hidden sensors and crap on the triumph! I have the original bs4 himalayan for 5 years now and it's simple, i service it myself and do all the work myself, i enjoy it. The after sales of re is really good here in the UK, no doubt triumph is too but i just don't need them once warranty has gone. My friends gs has to go into the garage for a service, is triumph the same? I want to service my bike myself on my driveway and royal enfield allows me to do that very cheaply too...... For me it's the enfield, cheaper and just as reliable in my opinion, go absolutely anywhere on my trips and a 21in front wheel for our uk pot holed roads...... Just my opinion. And don't forget the triumph has 37nm of torque at 6500rpm and the enfield has 40nm at just 5000rpm so the power will always be right there! Oh ps the triumph does look sweet and my dream bike is a bonny t120 😂
If you dont go for mountain invading or mud splashing every month then take the Triumph.... its better choice for ppl who go to office everyday and once or twice to the mountains. :)
Though on paper both looks on par. I would prefer Triumph any day because of the after sales issues you get on a RE, constant wear and tare of parts, as well as a crappy service experience of RE.
I had aRE for 14 years and sold it and now switching to scrambler 400x.
Triumph has no service man
@@deltabluesdavidraye Service in RE is a pain even when they have many service centers..
Was a decision between these two. But the existence of Spoked Tubeless tires and the console provided by Himalayan makes it a clear winner. Though it's not the same segment... Let's see what triumph brings with the Tiger model in the same category
Himalayan is the best overall, even looks better in my opinion, more trail-like.
But design is copied from Hero Xpulse.
I think they could have done better with the design. Previous Himalayan was unique looking.
The instrument cluster is lit though.
Obviously, there’s a certain similarity but the 452 has a lot more
presence.
But triumph fit and finish is very well then himalaian and himalaian has a story of breaking apart on different situations.
Still don't know why I want to go with himalaian. My brain wants 400x but heart wants himalaian 😅😅
@@shahadsorwar3843 Yes, the Triumph is a more versatile bike. It can be used on the road and for mild off-roading. Cruising in highways is also easy going on the Triumph.
The Himalayan is a adventure segment motorcycle. Primarily meant for Off-roading n little on road rides. Less versatility but stronger performance in drastic situations.
Depends on ur needs and taste. Choose accordingly.
@@ankurhazra2445 yes brother
Himalayan pros :
1. Simple machine.
2. Much more torque on low RPMs.
3. RE more smiles per mile experience.
4. More ground clearance.
Rest everything is almost same in both bikes.
Edit :
5. Easier to maintain. Military ruggedness.
Larger fuel tank gives an advantage to the RE.
Not really a fair comparison. The Triumph is a road bike with off-road pretentions and the Himalayan is an off-road bike with on-road pretentions. They serve two different functions. Having said that the video was done nicely 😊
( suite !) vraiment sentir la route ou le terrain = une grande roue devant et hop, gazes !
You can't compare an adventure bike with a scrambler. That's like comparing apples with oranges.
39.57 - 39.5 = 0.7....😂 that's a huge breakthrough....
Quiero ver la comparativa entre la himalayan 450 y la cf moto 450 mt
The Himalayan makes +.07PS over the Tiger 400 & not +0.70PS. So almost no difference and a bit of an error on your part! The Triumph is also £28 per annum cheaper for VFL in the UK, as it's under 400cc.
I was about to comment on that but you covered me. Pure arithmetics. Its called subtraction
One is ADV and other is scrambler.
Comparison done.
Triumph 400x has 150mm suspension travel both front and back.
triumph moto greece refers just 179 kgs for 400x wet weight, spoked wheels also is a plus
The power difference is 0.07ps, not 0.7ps
bravo à la R-E pour la roue de 21" si vous voulez vraiment
Nice video, it would be nice to see one with the caballero 500
Srarebbe ora di finirla con questi confronti inadeguati e grotteschi.
Sono due moto completamente diverse , per usi completamente diversi.
@@daniru4009 , spero per te che la tua sia solo una battuta.
@@daniru4009 si esattamente ...stessa cosa. 🤣
You are comparing an adventure tourer bike with a scrambler, come on dude
Don't see any difference between the 2 bikes basically in terms of ride quality, Hope the Himalayan does not get the vibrations that you see in the Triumph when you rev them
It'll have more vibrations. High capacity high compression single cylinder will ALWAYS have vibrations!!!
And if you have seen itchy boots vlogs, it's quite clear by looking at handlebar and RVMs!
Himalayan is original. Triumph is just a sheep in wolf's cloth
Triumph has the expertise in making SCRAMBLER motorcycles. I have ridden the 400x and let me tell you it's definitely not a sheep if not a wolf.. Yes it may not be a full blown off reader like the new Himalayan with 200mm suspension travel and 230mm Ground clearance but it surely does everything with ease, cornering, going through City traffic,dealing with Rough/Bad roads, the suspension have a sense of DUALITY, the absorb and provide utmost cushion in bad conditions but don't get spongy when going hard in the corners😊 And I guess Scrambling means doing everything possible on a motorcycle. Very capable!
@@aakashsandhu2165 He did not mean that , Triumph in india is manufacturered by Bajaj . Hope you got it now
@@montychauhan9954 Royal enfield was first British, then it was made in chennai, now again they are doing the r&d at their UK centre and manufacturing it here in Chennai. Isn't it similar what Triumph has done? R&D in the UK, manufactured at the Bajaj plant in India.
@@aakashsandhu2165 After all its RE only , there it no other brand manufacturing it
@montychauhan9954 What difference does that really make? 🤔 After all Bajaj has finely executed the Scrambler 400x and Speed 400. The refinement, chassis, suspension everything is upto the Triumph standards.
Confirmed between both can anyone help me with choosing Himalayan 452 or scrambler 400x
Yes. Test ride BOTH bikes then make YOUR decision. Simple!
It would have been more helpful had you compared their prices.
Price has not been announced yet
@@Bike_informer ok....
Top information, Congratulations
Thank you!
Triumph 400x❤
Triumph branded Yezdi against, R.E.
Good presentation
Thank you
I’m sure why there’s a comparison- two different applications for the bikes.
Rear tyre of Speed 400 is 150/60 for Scram its 140/80
Well made 👌
Thanks 👍
Who among you has the skills to repair a tube tire in the middle of nowhere? That already should determine which one you are to buy...
Pity about the weight of the Himalayan
Royal Enfield
Good job... Many thanks
Most welcome 👍
souhaitons que la R-E arrive en Europe !
Triumph...!!!
Rear disk 270mm
Himalaia e claro