US Army Combat Veteran Reacts to Every single Warhammer 40k WH40k Faction Explained by Bricky PART 3
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The church is no longer allowed a private army after a _thing_ happened now called "the age of apostasy". But the law literally says they can have "No men under arms" so enter the sisters of battle.
Good commentary on this one as well.
Yeah it's the legal loophole of: You are not allowed to shoot someone, so you kill them with a sword.
Imagine, if it only said “No Men under arms” then there’d be no sisters of battle.
in the Medieval period bishops were prohibited from spilling blood on the battlefield with the edge of a blade, so they used clubs, ie bishop odo on the bayeux tapestry at hastings.
@@original0blace Based and loopholepilled!
@@JainZar1 More like you still shoot people and then argue that actually the bullet was stationery and the person who you shot ran into the bullet.
If you're wondering how a faction dedicated to technology can lose the knowledge/means to manufacture certain designs, note that the US Air Force recently admitted they're needing to reverse-engineer parts for their own B-2 Spirit for whatever reason.
Rip
They never digitalized the blueprints for the B-2, they then lost all physical copies, and the guy who designed them died. NASA did something similar with satellites
@@Big_Banes Yeah sounds like 40k. Except that the blueprints are thousands of years old, you barely understand what you're working with because some ancient human tech defies their understanding of the universe and the blueprints may not even be complete.
@@Big_Banes It does befuddle me how some agencies still don't digitize their old documents though. Imagine going through an archive full of thousand of folders. A simple search on a computer would take a lot less time
@@alephkasai9384 its mostly due to, cost, security and dependency. if you store files safely said files will never go bad, and on the security note most people don't want old files being hacked which can happen, also digitalizing files takes time, effort, money, and overtime. most agencies don't want to pay or put the necessary requirements into such a task when they have a system that worked for decades and in some cases near a century that worked just fine, most agencies have dedicated archivist that known every file there is and can fetch one in moments without much trouble or said archives are so well documented and organized sending a regular employee to find said required document is far too easy to justify spending tens of thousands to have teams of employees and buy dozens of printers, not to mention the cost of servers let alone high end servers with the needed read write time to both copy and search the terabytes of data for blueprints, photos, text files.
The reason he called the Adeptus Sororitas ‘nun’s in space’ is because the original group was called the ‘Brides of the Emperor’ so they essentially started off as Nuns
Lol serious nun vibes
Nun's with guns
@@doctorcorvus1319 hehe bolter bit-
@@user-pj1ec5om5g Melta Maidens.
@@doctorcorvus1319 Sisters with Bolters
Hilarious idea of your wife's about the mechanicus being endgame silicon valley tech bro.
And yet the average mechanicus is still more human than Mark Zuckerberg
*blinks in reptilian*
100% going to happen!!!!! The only motherfuckers going to Mars for the rest of their lives to struggle are gonna be the nerds and geeks! And YOU KNOW they’re going to be making up their own myths legends and religions based on their long lost loved forms of entertainment!
For the sisters: Only the Sisters Militant are the fighting force. They also have medical, teaching and even language focused arms of the sisterhood, that are not involved in combat.
They also have maids (kinda) for noble families!
The Orders Hospitaller, Dialogus and Famulous, if I remember correctly.
The hospitaller are the most loved persons in the imperuim and battle sister are one of the feared
This
So some space nuns are indeed space nuns
The churches they drop are more drop pod mixed with instant pop up fortress. The sisters are like religion themed super heroes who are legendary to regular citizens of the imperium and helps keep moral up while also functioning as a military branch for the church.
I sort of figured. Like a drop pod they blessed lol
If you want cathedrals dropping from atmosphere you have Empreror Class Titans
@@Ballin4Vengeance your not wrong
Well, the emperor needed them, to well get their technology and experience to get his stuff to work, and to build all of his stuff.
Also back when the Emperor started the Crusade it was Terra, Luna and Mars, he could not afford to lose the advantage of having Mars on his side, even if it meant giving them this weird amount of freedom.
yea the emperor only have them to make the stuff since everyone become space medieval most of them
Politics makes for weird allies
@@CombatVeteranReacts The goal for the Imperium wasn't so much to destroy all religious ideas and beliefs, but rather to destroy *organized* worship. At the same time, the very idea of religion would be made a complete laughingstock, and thus something nobody would want any part in to begin with. By doing so, the Emperor would starve out the Chaos gods until they were too weak to affect the material plane in any meaningful way. There's some indication in the Horus Heresy series that the goal was to essentially wean the Mechanicus off of their religious fervor. We run into an outright atheistic techpriest in one of the novels dealing with the Mechanicum.
@@CombatVeteranReacts To be fair, the Emperor is also responsible for their existence, because he trapped the void dragon on mars. He also knew that he would need something like a religious orthodoxy to prevent the people who need to understand how to work with technology from making exceedingly dangerous things like AIs or grey goo nanomachines and to not reverse engineering the wrong technology which ends up being a recepie for a psychic machine that pulls daemons into the materium. It was certainly helpful, as well, that despite what the man in the video said, The Omnissiah is the Emperor, who is the physical avatar of the Machine God, in the sense that christians beleive that Jesus "is" God, but is also something seperate. This essentially meant that all he had to do was show up on mars, tell them he's their God, and dictate terms.
Basically the Mechanicum has the best Engineers in the whole Imperium, they are also the only ones still actively seeking to recover blueprints of long lost tech since that's sort of frowned upon in the rest of the Imperium, so instead of going to war with them the Emperor let them have certain freedoms that other factions might not have to keep them happy and in service to him
finding lost tech is not frowned upon, it is actually lauded to find a new STC and if ever someone finds a completely intact STC that has all the schematics from the golden age of technology then not only would humanity once again become the unquestioned masters of the galaxy but that person would go down in legend. Invention and innovation are what is frowned upon and usually stamped out as heretical.
@@Rembanspellsong And also using Xenotech and Heretech
@@doc43souls74 their are exceptions
@@Rembanspellsong At least until the Necrons finally come out & play when the Great Awakening alarm clocks finally hits. Then everyone is fucked, as Necrons will fuck all the younger inferior species up w/ their "technology that might as well be the same as magic", and being immortal and OP and all that, they will fuck everyone up eventually (them, or Tyranids or Orkz, take your pick)
@@skebaba918 there will be on 'great awakening' as even the necrons that have woken up have figured out that the timer doesn't work and will not wake everyone up. they were supposed to all have been reactivated millenia ago.
The mechanicus does actually view the emperor as the Omnissiah, essentially the physical manifestation and herald of the Machine God. They form a trinity of Omnissiah(Emperor) Machine God and Motive Force(Energy) in a pretty obvious allusion to the Christian Trinity. So the mechanicus does absolutely worship the emperor, but they do so believing he is the embodiment of their Machine God in the material world.
Spoiler for the book Mechanicum: The C'Tan Dragon, or at least a shard, was imprisoned by the Emperor on Mars. Probably to get the early Martians influenced by it. Thus creating the Cult of the Machinegod.
@@JainZar1 That is just theory though. It’s not stated in lore that the void dragon’s imprisonment on Mars predates the machine cult.
@@maxgaj3015 I think it's stated - from 11th to 12th century.
Well, there are sects within the Cult Mechanicus. Some do believe the Emperor as Omnissiah, some just as a kinda embodiment, and some not at all. The Mechanicus is not united, and that's before we factor in the Dark Mechanicus
@@doc43souls74 That is when the void dragon was defeated, not when it was imprisoned on Mars.
"Are the Grey Knights a specific Chapter of Space Marines? I see this guy's got the symbol of the Inquisition on his chest. Are they THE Inquisition? Are they a subset of the Inquisition? Or do they just show up and work for the Inquisition when it suits them? Is it like the Custodes where they kinda don't answer to anybody but themselves?"
Answers to questions respectively: Yes, not exactly, sort of, no, definitely not.
They are a Chapter that, like the Deathwatch, often works for the Inquisition (as both are Chamber Militants of specific Ordos, namely Malleus for GK and Xenos for DW). They are very selective and mysterious in recruitment and procedure, even among Space Marines.
Wasn't this retconned several time? I mean I could've sworn the teh Grey Knight weren't a completely different chapter. Of course at that time the Necrosn were nothing more than mindless genocidal machine horde are nothing but slaves the the C'tan(no sapient individuals like Silenst King , not Trazyn etc).
@@remliqa They are their own Chapter, but just with all current Grey Knights since their inception being implanted with a gene-seed made from the Emperor's own material.
@@belinablanc They are also the only Chapter permanently stationed in the Sol system, on Titan to be exact.
The Grey Knights are Chapter 666 of the Space Marines. They wear not the Rosette of the Inquisition, but the mark of Malcador the Sigilite/the Hero, the Imperial Regent. They work very closely with the Ordo Maleus out of convenience.
They are also one of three groups that are members of The Talons of the Emperor, so like a Custode or Oblivion Knight, they technically have the Authority to order anyone within the imperium including the primarchs, although one of the virtues cultivated by a Grey Knight is their own humility, so outside of their own chapter will rarely actually use their rank as members of The Golden Throne. Conversely an Oblivion Knight of the SoS wont give orders typically because shes, kinda just trained not to take full command. Their training subordinates them in battle to the Custodes and their officers, and their organization rarely consolidates sufficiently that their direct superiors arent reporting to the Ordo Hereticus Inquisitors working for the Adeptus Astra Telepathica, in the combined, general duties of the order of the Sisters of Silence as the guards of the blackships. The blackships which travel from world to world kidnapping psykers.
Which leads to the interesting situation where an SoS, who has unlimited legal rights within the Imperium, takes orders from the Inquisitor, who has only the finite sanction for policing of the imperium, takes their orders from a psyker in the astra telepathica, a person who is quite literally a slave with no freedom to move within the economy of the imperium.
Also, Castellan Crowe is a little more badass then Bricky conveys in that video. The Black Blade isnt just a regular daemon blade. When its not in his possession its been identified to have corrupted Greater Daemons into its service, and anyone else in the universe would be corrupted by it within a mortal lifetime. the Kinebrach smith who bound the weapon, bound an entire chaos god. the sum-total of its daemonic hordes into the blade. And he uses it as a bog standard, no special rules Sword. no powerfield, no psychic resonance, no monofilament edge. Castellan Crowe, when he gets off titan because they allowed him to leave his room, is literally swinging a Mideval quality longsword as exactly what it is, despite the chaos god bound within.
Ejem,imperial fist
The Sororitas actually have what you mentioned.....
"Order Madriga" is a minor order that provide and train choir girls.
"Order Hospitaller" dedicated to healing and medical care.
"Order Famulous" who serve imperium nobles and record their bloodlines.
"Order Dialogous", who are translators and linguist.
... There is probably even more minor or niche orders out there.
To understand the Mechanicus, remember that many of the things mankind used to use during the Dark Age of Technology used sentient AIs. The "Ghost in the machine" is a very real concept to them, and they can and will kill Mechanicus goons who are not careful. Also remember that a lot of human tech from the DAOT is both incredibly overpowered (since mankind was incredibly advanced back then) and has been through both the Age of Strife (5000 years of neglect and infighting) and the Horus Heresy (where part of the Mechanicus joined Horus and fought against the other). Kill programs and such, alongside chaotic taint and unhappy ancient AIs make for a very hazardous working environment through which the Mechanicus has to sift through and hope to see the light of day.
True. They have a lot of friction to overcome
@@CombatVeteranReacts To answer your question about the Omnissiah, the Horus Heresy novel “Mechanicum” explains it fairly well. The Omnissiah is the C’Tan Void Dragon (Necron god thing). The void dragon fled to Mars after a disagreement between various C’tan and was then imprisoned by the Emperor. The Void Dragon does have some ability to affect machines.
So in short the Omnissiah is a real thing (sort of).
To your question about why the mechanicus see the mechanics have lost their scientific understanding of the issue:
During the Age of Strife, when Mars and the rest of the planets were isolated from each other by violent warp storms, the thermoformed Mars went into complete anarchy, like the Earth. Mutants, radiation and techno barbarians swept the entire surface of the planet, all infrastructure was reduced to ashes. Some of the people, however, still managed to hide in giant underground shelters, the work of which was supported by technicians, and the health of the colonists by scientists and doctors.
The era of discord lasted about five thousand years, during this time the cars began to break down, but there was practically no opportunity to repair them - everything was destroyed, many who knew how to repair the mechanisms were either killed or went crazy.
Plus, even before the ege of strife, humans had Men of Iron in their servants - terminators who were tired of serving bags of bones. And they rebelled against the masters.
For your better understanding of this catastrophe, some planets, including Mars, have relied entirely on the Men of Iron for their military, or Army. So there was practically no one there who could offer them any resistance. During this time, the iron people killed many colonists and destroyed all the data centers that stored the technologies of Mankind.
And just imagine, you have been sitting underground for about five thousand years, praying to the ancient, already falling apart air filtration system and the "technician" who try to fixes it, although he himself does not fully understand how it works.
Pray because this is the only thing you can do in this situation.
So the mechanicus that survived the AoS were a small minority
@@CombatVeteranReacts yes, they are.
@@CombatVeteranReacts When the Emperor came to Mars, he first wanted to crush the religious fanatics, but the Mechanicus had an incredible number of war automatons and loyal Skitarii soldiers. In fact, the Martians already had their own Empire when the Emperor united the Earth under his banner. And he formed an alliance with the tech-priests, they built a great war fleet for him, and the Emperor, in return, vowed to defend their faith and their forge worlds. When the Mechanicus conquered Mars, they sent fleets of explorators to the stars in order to understand what happened to people, some of them flew and founded new forge worlds, some died. Since the stream of navigators - special people-mutants able to navigate the warp - they had very few, they traveled "blindly". And when the emperor came, he gave them 6 Navigator Houses for interstellar travel. Thus was the great union of Holy Mars and Holy Terra formed - the Imperium of Man was founded. There is also a story that when the Emperor descended to Mars, he met a broken Imperial Knight - a giant humonoid mech and his pilot. The Emperor touched the injured knee of the machine and said, "Machine, heal yourself!" and ... it was repaired in the blink of an eye, the pilot even felt as if all of the Knight's systems were fully restored, not just the knee. As a result, the pilot bowed before the Emperor and led him to a meeting with the Fabricator General of Mars.
"If you want to replace your scrawny human legs with jacked robot legs"
From the moment I understood the weakness of flesh it disgusted me.
Praise be the Omnissiah
Amen brother
The Mechanicus does worship Emperor as the Omnissiah, the avatar of Machine God. Slightly less heretical than just ignoring Emperor.
Just slightly
Praise the honkmother my fellow clown
"sing a song and dance a little bit"... in the WH40K RPG Dark Heresy if you play as a tech-priest you get a skill called 'sacred knock' which is literally percussive maintenance - and that's a formal skill tech priests train in, how to hit things the right way to get them working again. Most Tech-Priest "rituals" are like that... the ritual of the sacred oil is literally changing the oil and lubing up the engines.
Hahahaha. I love it
@@CombatVeteranReacts imagine if you will , the prayers and rituals of the Mechanicus ARE the instructions for operations of machinery designed 20000 years earlier by human societies using AI beyond comprehension. humanity no longer has the AI and dont even understand their own technology now.. today, you can kind of take your car apart, rebuild it, add bits and maybe you improve it , maybe you break it beyond repair.. depends on your skill and knowledge right? try that with a 25 mile long spaceship that tears holes in reality to achive faster than light travel - you get that wrong and who knows what will happen.. This is why the Emperor allowed the mechanicus to exist, he needed them to retain the ability to operate these machines in an age where all knowledge is long since lost. And you treat it like a religion because, if you fuck up with an imposibly advanced space ship, or 100 m tall war machine a bad day is practically guarenteed..
The Grey Knights ARE a specific chapter; but much like the Deathwatch they are much more specialized of a chapter to where just as Bricky said, they are meant for hunting the absolute worst daemonic entities of the Warp. They were originally first put into development during the final days of the Horus Heresy by the Emperors most closest confidant Malcador the Sigilite who is also the one who began to form what would become what we know now as the Imperial Inquisition where before Horus entered the Sol System, Malcador used his psychic abilities to hide what would be the chapters homeworld of Titan (aka one of the moons in our solar system) in the Warp to give the chapter time to organize and train up its members and they first manifested shortly after the Heresy, meeting with the Inquisition or more specifically the Ordo Malleus becoming its militant arm. Now while the Grey Knights are their own independent autonomous unit they can be strong-armed into cooperating with the Inquisition into doing certain things; one of which was the First War for Armageddon where they were among the forces ordered to round up the surviving civilians and guardsmen to be purged or sterilized and thrown into labor camps. This led to the Months of Shame against the Space Wolves chapter which is considered one of the darkest and most humiliating periods of the Grey Knights history as they were being forced by a Lord Inquisitor to help bring the Space Wolves 'to heel', only for the Grey Knights to give up their secrecy to the Space Wolves as; yeah the chapter does have a BRUTAL scorched earth policy where they'll either target survivors who know of their existence or in some cases they will wipe the memories from the minds of anyone they fight alongside about what happened.
The Deathwatch are the opposite where they take the specialists and veterans of all of the Space Marine chapters in the Imperium and have them work in combined squads carrying out special operations missions against various xenos races or against the major xenos factions in the galaxy. Now occasionally the Deathwatch will cross into encountering Chaos but normally the Deathwatch will carry out missions against the alien factions and in many cases; invent newer methods of combat against said factions such as developing a new ammunition against the Tyranids or taking samples of xenos technology and studying or even in some cases reverse engineering them for use within the Deathwatch.
That is a powerful psycker. To hide a moon
@@CombatVeteranReacts Oh yeah, Malcador was famously known as being on par with the Emperor himself as being one of the most powerful psykers within the Imperium, and whenever the Emperor was tending to his own work. Then Malcador would run the Imperium in his place essentially acting with his authority as he was the Emperors Regent.
@@CombatVeteranReacts Malcador was like the top 2nd or 3rd Human Psyker (Emperor being 1st and one of his Primarchs (Magnus the Red) being another of the top candidates).
Actually the machine spirits are based on the fact that stc’s (which their technology is based on) is some form of ai and actually all technology the that the imperium uses has some kind of low level intelligence, proportional to its size and function. There are even instances of power armor fighting on with an animalistic fury for a short time after the occupant has died, and independent actions like these are common in Titans, where the pilots must mind link with a machine spirit to feel like they are one with the titan and drive it, and the spirit is so powerful it’s very taxing on the pilot and it’s been said they more of just guide the bound spirit where to unleash its fury.
So it’s more like limited ai and human ai slave hybrids and stuff are ok, just as long as it’s not free or too smart, because then it’s its own faction and might revolt, like in the closing days of the golden age of technology.
That seems like a classic adeptus move: make it work, but don't know how
“Losing it over sisters of battle and drop pod churches”
To bad bricky never went into the walking churches in these videos.....
Mechanicus wise, as with everything in 40k, it’s complicated. The mechanicus has multiple factions in it. Some believe emperor is the omnisiah, others that he’s not but merely the human who came closest to the perfection of the omnisiah either bodily( there are magos biologists who aim for biological perfection as organisms being machines themselves or that they should enhance themselves without losing humans form) and others that neither exists and try to make daemon machines or understand alien tech etc.
As for why tech is regressing in 40k imagine modern day if one day the internet and electricity just goes away and how many people in modern times have any idea how to build even simple machines from the ground up. That’s pretty much 40k. Golden age humanity advanced to pretty much Star Trek levels with almost replicator tech that they relied on for building pretty much anything. And then it started to go terminator on them and even in modern day how many people have encyclopedias or construction manuals for building things
Oh god walking churches
@@CombatVeteranReacts Oh no they are not walking churches, They are walking cathedrals.
@@CombatVeteranReacts If you want an absolute laugh as to the glorious absurdity of the Sisters of Battle, google Sisters Exorcist.
Machine spirit is basically warp energy caused by machine worship. Sometimes tanks will just drive themselves. They will get 'angry'.
But it's a kind of self fulfilling prophecy. Also void dragon is a thing which is a super powerful entity which affects machines too, but most machines doing stuff by themselves is a result of minor daemons created by Mechanicus beliefs infusing machines.
yeah....wrap f****ry beliefs and such work...and interact in odd....ways.
The Adepta Sororitas has everything you mentioned. The Sisters of Battle is actually only one part of them. They have a medical, prayer, scribes, hunters of holy artifacts, etc etc. A lot of different things they do beyond sisters of battle. He's just being general about everything. But, yeah, they definitely have more "nun" like parts to them beyond Heretic Smashing.
The sisters of battle remind me of nuns combined with feudal Japanese warrior monks. They exist because the church is not allowed to field men in battle because of space hitler/nero, Goge Vandire, who nearly collapsed the imeperium so they field women. its a very interesting story.
yea watch 'doge vandire last stand'
"I am to busy to Die!"
In the example of the the striders never being turned off for fear of them never turning on again is justified by one little detail bricky leaves out.
The ironstrider is a perpetual motion machine. It breaks physics, and they don't know why or how it works, just that it does.
I think Bricky said in his podcast that those striders were also used as really inefficient energy sources
thats dope never Knew that
Yeah, them being perpetual motion machines would make people NEVER want to turn them off because if you did that, how would they be turned on again?
@@jacktobias6513 must be a bitch to maintain thou, imagine trying to lube and grease the thing while it's moving
I remember watching one of luetins vids about the titans and apparently while they are transported within essentialy space freighters the titans sway around as if they are dreaming even tho the pilot is not controlling them , which is kinda cool
Because titans have such strong machine spirits that are kinda very angry and even can control titan themselves, but worse than a princeps since a machine spirit of the Titan is basically an Ork because it only wants to FIGHT and KILL.
If you read the Forges of Mars series, a Warlord Titan has a nightmare about a previous battle during warp transit it blows a massive hole through the ship with it's plasma cannon as a result.. Kinda scary.
I've been on the receiving end of a rebellious machine spirit, in games of Adeptus Titanicus. You can attempt to push your titan's reactor to gain extra movement, agility, shield strength, or weapon effects, but you risk awakening the machine spirit. In my very first game I pushed one of my warhounds for movenent, awoke the machine spirit, and shook my head as it careened straight toward my opponent's melee-epuiped reaver.
@@kglguy Scream
About the grey knights question, They are part of the inquisiition, the ordo malleus. They are kind of space marines, except instead of having there gene seed from a primarch there gene seed is from the emperor himself.
Whoa
Where did you find out about the GK getting their gene seed from the emperor? I was under the impression that was exclusive to the Custodians and that the Grey Knights were just better equiped space marines with psychic powers, perhaps with a more potentent or pure gene seed sample.
@@robinfalkner-wedge824 the emperor uses alchemical processes to make the custodians, while the grey knights recieve the actual emperors gene seed.
I am 36. I have had six heart surgies, and at least two stroked. The second I can start swapping out this meat suit I am doing it.
"From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me.
I craved the strength and certainty of steel, I aspired to the purity of the blessed machine.
Your kind cling to your flesh, as if it will not decay and fail you.
One day the crude biomass that you call a temple will wither, and you will beg my kind to save you,
But I am already saved.
For the machine is immortal."
"Non violent ways" hahahahaha dude I spent a year of my childhood in a convent type orphanage, these ladies are always angry.
22:12 They are more like MObile Command post that can be dropped from low orbit.
They do not like just drop a church and Hope it survives the fall.
They are litteraly Dropships/Vessels capable of manoeuvring and landing, they will drop and then slow their speed by reverse thrusting and mag-lev.
Dropping stuff from orbit is a very often used method for the Imperium, SM has Drop pods to yeet Marines squads and dreadnoughts on the battle field.
IG's use Valkyrie Dropships, and WArbirds ships for the heavier tanks and equipement.
the Adepus Titanicus, DROPS GIGANTIC Building Sized Drop Pods to deploy their Titans.
Yeeting shit out of a ship onto a planet, is the Imperium's favorite way of doing it.
regarding the adeptus mechanicus (ad mech): they do have scientific method and explore the galaxy for ancient technology from the golden age, they are basically this renaissance group. The issue is regarding their dogma and political conflicts inside their church. They have dumb dogmas like "knowledge already exist", so they get more of their time searching for ancient technology than actually doing research (which they do). And regarding politics, they compite with each other and stagger the process of each other in their researchs, or they stagger their own research to fly low, specially because they are quick to hunt down whoever seems to be crossing to heretical territorie. But then again, just like with the imperial faith, there are radicals in their groups, an example is Cawl (mentioned in the video) who has made the most innovation and progress in the imperium but he is highly disliked by other members and he is only getting away with it because of his rank and having revived gurlyman.
The politics of the imperium are weird and hard to exaplain, this is why people just resort to the short meme, because when you read the books you end up with more nuanse on how this actually work.
Yea, it sounds very complicated. Like politics irl
It's not like there is NO technological progress within the imperium but every new invention has to be tested thousand times just to be sure that it won't do something "unexpected" the Imperium had to learn that the hard way.
And that's if some high up in the cult mechanicus doesn't decide to yoink it and hide it away because they see it is as too valuable and holy to be left in the hands of the fleshy types.
And we get the occasionnal forgeworld going kaput (for whatever reason), setting the tech back by a few hundred years.
As far as I can tell The Emperor kept the admec around because they were so good at making stuff that he was willing to let them keep their religion if it would mean they would be loyal to him
And he was literally the cause of their religion. He planned that, but of course some toaster boys had to fuck with the warp.
@@niddhoggloki4384 It's a little more complicated. The emperor sort of inserted himself as "the omnissiah," into their existing worship of the machine god through manipulation involving a prophecy around the time of the start of the great crusade.
@@maxgaj3015 Yes, but you forget the part where he buried a C'tan on Mars and that whispers into the subconscious minds of the Martians.
Additionally, the Emperor had every intention to betray the Mechanicum once the Crusade finished and they were no-longer of vital importance.
@@callumunga5253 What is the source for that?
Well for the machine spirits have 4 possible causes: Lobotomised AI left over from the Iron War, lobotomised human bits, actual warp spirits, or they’re complete fiction.
Or the Dragon of Mars. Maybe a C'tan.
Even better, there's evidence for all 4 options.
ProfSrlojohn that's what I like to think
The Grey Knights we're founded at the end of the Horus Heresy. They have there Base in one of the Saturn moons ( I think) and the moon was moved to the warp. So know there are back and hunting daemons and Chaos. All in All there are the 666th Space Marien Chapter, but there are more specialized.
Not completely true, they are based on Titan. Titan was put into a Warpbubble by Malcador the Sigilite during the late stages of the HH. After the HH Titan reemerged and with it a fully formed Chapter of Space Marines. They became the 666th chapter of the Second Founding. One of Mars's fabricatior moons was pulled to Titan, where it now works as the personal Forge World for the Grey Knights and the Inquisition.
@@JainZar1 yeah your are right my Bad sorry
Regarding the AdMech, they remind me if when my dad worked on IT systems, and he'd get these crazy 3am calls about "my computer won't turn on!" And he'd have to carefully walk these corporate businessmen who have no business operating a computer in 2006 through finding a power button.
Also, the reason for the technological stagnation is that innovation is actively being halted and suppressed by extremely violent means by the Imperium to avoid a second dark age of technology, which heralded the first big fall of the Imperium
1: The actual most significant breakthroughs in the european dark age, were actually in naval technology, agriculture, and politics, not architectural engineering.
2: There is plenty of innovation in 40k. Its just the fact that the Adeptus Mechanicus kills everyone who doesnt go through the proper, 5000 year long channels to test and certify the projects.
There are a few things that you might want to know about the mechanicus. 1. The mechanicus pre-horus heresy was known as the mechanicum (remember that for later). 2. The emperor didn't want to fight the mechanicum during the great crusade because it was basically mutual destruction of both the imperium and mars, so they forged a treaty; they work with the imperium, and they will have planetary and religious autonomy from the imperium. 3. The adeptus mechanicus was formed after the heresy because they also had a schism on Mars, and the rebels formed the Dark Mechanicum. FYI: the reason mechanicus don't use tech from advanced xenos tech is because due to their teachings, they believe xenos tech to be a perversion to the machine spirit and machine god.
2 more things: the omnissiah is different than the machine god; the omnissiah is for the mechanicus, the emperor and the machine god is... well, the machine god. And lastly, the mechanicus is the worst faction when is comes to dark futures, as they only care about knowledge, absolutely above everything, even human life. To tell you how much they covet knowledge and STCs (I quite frankly do not want to make this an essay to read so I will save you from THAT can of worms) when two average guardsmen found a portion of an STC, the mechanicus confiscated it and gave the 2 guardsmen their own individual paradise worlds. By themselves. That's the power of the mechanicus and religious fervor that they have for finding new tech from the dark age of technology.
@@dr.cobalt8623 couldn't u say STCs are more or less blueprints form Dark Age of Technology for all tech?
@@matasblazauskas5859 true, but my biggest thing with 40k is STCs, simply because it's so...enigmatic because when fully operational its simply an advanced AI. AD Mech are by far one of my favorite factions (besides necrons) who's lore really does revolve around STCs, so yes you are right, but from someone who has been on one side of the rainbow to the other, I guess it's just difficult to explain beyond that its a blueprint AI. I'm not good at explaining things.
To answer some of your questions in the video
Machine Spirit - yes, it exists, but it's not like there are no actual repairs done in W40k. They are simply followed by certain rituals and procedures to appease the Machine Spirit. Degree of such measures mostly depend on complexity of the system. Short prayer after cleaning or fixing your lasgun is enough, but maintenance/repairs of an Imperial Titan require hours of chants and rituals following the technical work. Machine Spirit often can influence the performance of the device or vehicle, to a different degree. In rare cases, in some of more ancient and complex machines combined with certain circumstances Machine Spirit is able to go almost full AI (there is mention in lore about Space Marine Land Raider tank which kept fighting autonomously after all its crew had been killed).
Computers and AI - it's not like Imperium is in 1950-s in terms of computer technology. First of all, there are computers (called cogitators), and they could be sometimes advanced even by modern real-world standards. They are run by Machine Spirits as well. You may ask if there is a Machine Spirit, then what is the problem with AI? Well, what is strictly forbidden in Imperium is self-learning, sentient AI ("I, Robot"/"Terminator" level of AI, for example). On the other hand, cybernetization is a BIG thing in W40k. As you mentioned correctly, most of the Mechanicus believe in transhumanism and they seek perfection in turning themselves into as much of the machine as possible. Those at the top of the chain in Mechanicus often barely have any human organs left in them.
Cybernetic enhancement is very common among non-mechanicus as well. From crude arm/leg prosthesis, to the increase of memory and calculaton capabilities, hightened senses, toughened skin or increased strength. Also the very common practice is to use servitors - mindless cyborgs, generally made of traitors, criminals and heretics through the extensive cybernetic physical surgery and psychological programming, which are used for different tasks throughout the Imperium (hard labour, calculations, services, combat etc.). They even make drones from the skulls. And although these are basically robots (with no free will though), since they are still part human and thus not forbidden to make and use.
Science - there actually are technological developments in the Imperium, but they are severely hampered by 1) religious superstition 2) bureaucracy 3) conservatism 4) bad examples of Techpriests going traitors or heretics due to the desire to explore and develop (Chaos and some Xenos give a lot of possibilities in that field) 5) sheer size of the Imperium 6) monopoly on technological knowledge by single organization. You mentioned the real-life technological progress in Europe, but if we look at Middle ages American natives, China, Japan, there were periods of hundreds and hundreds of years with very little technological improvement. Also golden era of technology had long passed (with a bit of revival in an era of the Great Crusade, before the start of the Horus Heresy) and Mechanicus are still often hunt for the lost pieces of knowledge from that era.
Adepta Sororitas - actually, there are few branches of them. Those that are played on the table are Orders Militant - Sisters of Battle. There are three other main groups within the Sororitas - Orders Hospitalier (medical treatment), Famulous (counselors, tutors and diplomats for the nobility of the Imperium) and Dialogos (scholars and interpreters). Though these groups also recieve combat training, it isn't their main function. As for being "private army" - well, different branches of the Imperium are often at odds with each other, and Sisters of Battle could be called by the Ecclesiarchy if their dispute with local authorities, Imperial guard command or even Astartes becomes too heated. Actually some Battle Sisters strongly hate and despise Astartes, considering them mutant abominations.
Grey Knights - yes, this is special chapter of Space Marines, which serves under Ordo Malleus - department of Inquisition which is responsible for fighting threats from the Warp. They are considered the military arm of this department and when Inquisitor finds the threat of the Daemonic incursion, he calls for their aid, since they are specifically selected and prepared to fight Daemons. Though due to having best weapons produced by mankind; rigorous mental and physical training evem by Astartes standards,;geneseed from Emperor himself, which makes them uncorruptable; and every Grey Knight being a powerful psyker in Imperium they could only be matched by Custodes in they combat capabilities.
I want to say that I like your reaction and in-depth analysys of W40k a lot. Keep up the good work!
Love the parallels you draw between 40k and our history, I learn from you every body
Every video *
Thanks!
Your reactions are so fun since you shed light on various things that you wouldnt expect or most like myself wouldnt know of
Grey knights are attached to the inquisitions Demon hunters but are kinda both their own thing and allied, to be blunt grey knights are the prime anti daemon psychic warfare specialists... so they are kind of like a secret army that kills only one kind of type of enemy, or who ever may witness this enemy.
On the machine spirit point it’s incredible vague though best description I can think of is a cross between basic AIs, actual spiritual positions, and the mechanicus defaulting to their bibles in lieu (or in the face of) a better explanation
Ok, those were my 3 leading guesses
Honestly been following your reactions just to see you react to the crazyness of 40K, but honestly before even finishing PART 1 I was more intrigued in all your commentary and real world comparisons/resemblances. These have become very interesting to watch and learn about so many new things. Cheers.
The Emperor allowed the cog boys (tech priests) to still worship their god because conquering Mars would've taken a whole lot of time and resources that he couldn't really expend at that point, and I believe his whole plan was to just force convert them once the Great Crusade was over and the Imperium stabilized. I also wish to share the rite of percussive maintenance, you just chant and do other things and then give the machine a good ol' whack
As someone who has worked with IT professionals in the NHS, actually the "that one guy got this working but he's not here now so we don't dare switch it off" is alarmingly common. Sometimes a part of a large organisation with budgetary restrictions' system doesn't integrate with a system and some creative temporary solution is cooked up by a mad genius... and nobody asks them how they did it, or tries to work out a proper solution.
i feel sorry for you.
There are orders of Adepta Sororitas that provide services other than being a fighting force. There are the orders that provide medical services, ones that are teachers, ones that are scribes and translators of texts including xenos texts, there are administrative sisters. That's kinda the beauty of warhammer 40k lore, they add in just enough stuff to give you a larger picture of what a faction does, but leave out enough information so you can do your own theory crafting and custom chapters/orders of units.
Actually my unit treats vehicles the way the Magos treat dune striders. So afraid they won’t fire up, we just NEVER SHUT THEM OFF in the field.
*sad toaster noises*
You talking about meditation made me think about the custodies. They can stand guard without moving for centuries and never lose focus for an instant, constantly keeping a fully vigilant watch, and if something went down suddenly they would spring into action with no hesitation and perform their duties at 100% efficiency. Now that is a crazy amount of mental focus.
Keep these up, I love your takes on bricky's amazing video
Hey man, good to see you, missed your videos! For the emperor! Always love how you manage to put so much info and examples from history into each video, it is truly amazing.
The machine spirits are kinda AI from the age of technology, take it as the Code of each machine which they believe is the machine spirit (also many tanks and older huge battleships do have AI remenants who can manifest, which the mechanicus says is the machine spirit)
The emperor actually made himself pass as the omnisahia (dunno the full story) but it would have been impossible to reconquer the galaxy and reunite the Imperium withouth the help from the cog boys (who have a lot of long forgotten tech which only they know how to use)
Also you can say we are mercs for the vatican, When i served in the Swiss army i had a couple of friends who ended up there. It is a long tradition, and they are like the secret service of the Vatican
The best way to describe the machine spirit itself is more a set of codes and protocols that over a span of time have become so integral to the machine itself that it becomes the closest thing you can call primal instincts without being a fully aware ai
So how did the emperor get sold on AdMechs:
Right after he unified Terra the fleet of Mars attacked his empire. Because they were used to raid Terra for tech and didn't like it getting unfucked by the Emperor. Unfortunatelly for them Emperor already get his space marines. So he used them to board most of AM fleet. He then parked his fleet on Marian orbit and issued "join or die" ultimatum to them. Except only Martian leatership knew about the space battle for Terra and the ultimatum, so when they surrendered they fed the rest of AM a tale that Emperror is a prophet of Omnissia who will lead them to greatness.
Emperror could have tried to root out AM religion, but it woud require him to invade mars and proably destroy mot of it's factories. And he needed those to power his galactic crusade. So he kind of accepted the "prophet of Omnissiah" story and rolled with it.
Something to keep in mind with the Mechanicum is that a large portion of their rituals involve things like proper startup procedures cloaked in religious ritual, same with diagnostics, maintenance, shutdown, and repair.
The emperor went to Mars and used his magic powers to fix a bunch of machines basically just by touching them, which was more likely a mix of his psyker abilities and his knowledge of technology rather, but the mechanicus thought HE was the embodiment of the Omnissiah and joined him.
Now, after ten thousand years, some mechanicus factions still believe that the emperor and the omnissiah are one being, but many are starting to realize the difference, creating tension between each other and the imperium.
the concept of the machine spirit is basically that invisible entity you talk to when your printer or car or something doesn't work, as in "c'mon, just print already!" and then when a cool guy comes in to use the same device, it suddenly works like a charm because the machine spirit likes him better... ...and then somebody made an entire galactic religion based on it! :)
Such a wholesome video / comment section. Is he a youtuber that actually means "i care what you think" "explain it in the comments" when he says it?
Thumbs up
I read every comment, and I feel better informed every video. I seriously appreciate the commenters who share their knowledge in a cool/respectful way (which is almost everyone)
@@CombatVeteranReacts you said in the previous video(i think) that the commenters did a better job explaining the lore than bricky. Pretty impressive that you read and interract with us so much!
Wish you the best, really.
Also, you were a veteran first and mma fighter after, or the othet way around? Is there a video where you talk about it?
the lobotomised human cyborg things are called servitors. They're the imperium's answer to the need for generalised robot worker-slaves, without having access to true AI.
Machine spirits are more so a energy about machinery that the tech priests of mars will perform certain rites, such rubbing oils on the machinery, saying prayers, burning incense, to appease. This seems to actually do something in universe, though the exact reasons why are a matter of speculation.
I like to imagine that the Adeptus Mechanicus rituals are largely just normal maintenance, but transformed over generations of technological and societal degradation into spiritual acts without anyone fully understanding why this helps.
"Thou shalt firstly apply firm pressure to the signet of the omnissiah located on the southmost face of the holy machine, until the machine spirit resounds with a mighty click, then, thou shalt wait 5 minutes as the machine spirit rests it's weary soul, while chanting the sacred phrases. once this blessed time has elapsed, depress the same signet again, and lo, the machine will roar it's approval." something like that
The symbol is that of Malcador the sigilite, he was the emperor’s best friend and helped create the primarchs. He also created the grey knights and the inquisition so they wear his symbol
The Sisters of Battle have various orders and various functions. The ones that show up to throw down and share their ordinance with extreme prejudice are the Militant ones, and the most well known to players. They're the ones you commonly see depicted.
the machine spirit is a difficult deal to explain. So imagine this, you are in the field during a combat situation, your weapon yams and fail, it seems to not be just a regular jam, but a piece malfunction. Then the techpriest arrives, he toss some holy oil into it, chant a wololo and whoala, your gun is now working.
Grey Knights are Astartes and a chapter and sort of work together with the Inquisition but only because their goals somewhat overlap, Ordo Maleus are about taking care of demons, Grey Knights are demonslayers, so they...find themselves in the same place quite often
The Grey Knights were created by Malcador, the same guy that created the organization that one day would become the Inquisition, and they are pretty much under the secret branch of the Inquisition that fights Daemons.
And according the the Horus Heresy books, Janus, their first Grandmaster was made by Malcador from a fragment of Magnus' soul that he left behind in the throne room when he broke in to warn the emperor about horus, and ended up ruining everything forever.
This goes for literally everything that has power running through it which is most things in 40k. If a dock worker messes up a 40k version of a fork because he pressed buttons in the wrong order and stopped it functioning - despite what the mechanicus tech adept might do or know how to fix it, he will still accuse the worker of pissing off the machine spirit, while genuinely believing his scented oils and prayers are necessary before he pushes the reboot button.
Machine Spirits, from my understanding, are artificial intelligences that function at an animalistic or instinctual level of intelligence. They have personalities, and can influence their operators, and sometimes even act completely on their own, but they're not completely self aware in a true sense. Truly self aware artificial intelligences are heretekal because they can quite easily either get corrupted by Chaos, or they view Chaos as such an extreme threat that the only way to truly destroy it is to destroy all life.
Most imperial tech is treated almost like an animal in writing. Titans and Knights have instinctual personalities thar influence their pilots, and it takes a specific personality in the pilot to influence it in turn.
Interesting. I am still wrapping my head around where machine spirits end and AI begins, but that is true of the modern world as well. A lot of machine learning stuff looks closer and closer to adapting, thinking AI
@@CombatVeteranReacts AI in this context is considered sentient, capable of learning and progressing with self determination, they rose up against humans after chaos infested their AI and nearly wiped out the population of 'humans' on Mars, it was for this reason this such AI was outlawed, so chaos could not infest Human technology again.
Machine spirit on the other hand is like a remnant personality complete with moods and desires but only of its task and lacks the intelligence of self learning or any outward thought, you control the spirit(different for each machine) with various rituals and procedures to bring about the determination you require of that machine via uplink with an interface, you can then meld your thought with the spirit to perform the task required. An example would be performing calming rituals on a titan to increase focus and improve functionality and effectiveness of that titan because without it the spirit would have a cold animal like nature to it, obviously it would be bad if a titan became a bit enraged during battle and blew up your army into a crater via aggressive malfunction of 1 of its systems, kind of the opposite of hitting your tv back in the analogue days lol
Isaac Asimovs The Foundation Series is a great dissection of how humanity might one day loose ready access to information, like the Adeptas Mechanicus , and was probably a heavy influence on 40k overall. Like just read the wiki page it might as well be a synonym for 40k
Interesting
There is an old philosophical question about how much you can replace in a person, before the individual stops being a person and become a construct. That is the mechanicum in a mechanical nutshell.
To clarify, Servitors and other machinery created using parts of the human brain as a CPU are not Machine Spirits. A Machine Spirit is either a rudimentary AI in the machine that handles its operations, or a legitimately supernatural entity that either resides in or affects the machine's performance.
To demonstrate, a gun with no advanced programming of any sort possesses a Machine Spirit. Ordinarily, simple routine maintenance of the weapon itself will appease it, but the Machine Spirit may become upset if you do not occasionally perform certain rites, such as offering a prayer or lighting incense if you disassemble and reassemble the gun. When this happens, regardless of the condition of the gun, it can misbehave in various ways, such as jamming, continuing to fire after letting go of the trigger, firing by itself, missing shots, or just spontaneously exploding.
By our reckoning, these would just be excuses or simple bad luck, and the rituals are just a way to explain to the illiterate masses why they need to perform maintenance, and there is some truth to that assertion, but in Warhammer, these superstitious beliefs have more merit.
Case in point, Space Marine Land Raiders are known to have very active Machine Spirits. The Black Templars often report that their Land Raiders will drive off by themselves and engage the enemy whilst the Templars are in the middle of pre-battle prayers. In another case, a Land Raider continued to fight on against a mob of Orks after its crew had been killed. When its guns inevitably ran out of ammo, it continued to run over Orks until it ran out of fuel, then it threw open its doors and allowed the Orks to swarm on it before detonating its own engines and self-destructing.
This would make you think that the Land Raider is simply an advanced piece of machinery with an AI in it. However, while the Land Raider does have some automated systems, none of these systems should be physically capable of operating without manual input from a human crew; the guns should not be able to move, target, or fire without an operator, the vehicle should not be able to move without a driver at the controls, the doors should not be able to open and close by themselves and often lack any kind of electronic device that would allow them to be opened remotely, and the engine should not have any kind of built-in self destruct mechanism. All of these details support the existence of some supernatural element to machinery in Warhammer, which is colloquially referred to as the Machine Spirit. The Machine Spirit is not actually the Machine God or Omnissiah, but it is generally regarded that the Machine Spirit is an extension of the Omnissiah's will that exists within the machine and allows it to function.
This is of course a gross simplification, but it essentially boils down to 'it's techno-magic, so just roll with it'.
This is helpful actually
It's been argued that the machine spirits of things like the larger titans ARE actually AIs, suitably contained and limited to make them "safe". Though when a titan princeps ( pilot/overall commander) dies in its titan, apparently a portion of its soul remains, integrated into the titan's machine spirit. Trippy stuff.
Grey Knights are a bit of everything. They were started when the Inquisition was formed, they go through a similar process that Space Marines do with creating them (but have an absolutely *brutal* screening process to see if someone is eligible), and only a very few know of their existence at all. They work closely with the Ordo Malleus (the part of the Inquisition that focuses solely on Chaos and Daemons) as their Chamber Militant (the military branch that the Ordos calls on most often when things go south). Luetin09 has a fantastic deep dive into the Grey Knights, but it's significantly long so get comfortable if you wanna watch it.
"This is peak Warhammer absurdity." Just wait until you see his video on the Xenos races...
It's not even a hill compared to xenos...
Referring to the grey nights question-There kind of their own thing they don’t follow the codex Astartes and there recruit casualty rate is insanely high. If I recall correctly they use gene seed based off the emperor himself. They work alongside the inquisition commonly, but they don’t work for it. Remember the space marine chapters from earlier well the organization called death watch acts as a special forces kind of group that does work for the inquisition however the deathwatch currently exists to destroy aliens like necron and genestealers they also help by giving space marine chapters knowledge of aliens they might not have had before. Only recruiting battle brothers from space marine chapters, so there’s currently no scout neophytes.
Grey Knights after the heresy were formed from Astertes from different chapters/legions, only the best were selected. As Bricky said they take only the best of the best and all are psykers.
They work/are with one of 3 branch of the Inquisition - the Ordo Malleus(demon hunters), (other two being the Ordo Xenos and Ordo Hereticus)
As for your question about what the machine spirits/Omnisiah are, there are a few theories about what it really is. It’s known to actually exist, such as old tech activating itself in strange ways. It’s possible that the machine spirits are actually AI, but the imperium is so far removed from AI that is not necessarily recognized as such. Humanity’s technology used to be far more advanced than it is in the 41st millennium. That being said, there is a much more complicated theory that there are videos on but it would be a lot to try to explain in a comment. That being that the machine spirits are a form of AI related to a C’tan (star god, like I said it’s complicated) fragment.
If my lore is wrong, please correct me
Adeptus Mechanicus summed up in one sentence: "From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh, it disgusted me"
Praise be to the Omnissiah 💀
The Inquisition can ask for help from the Grey Knight fighting Deamon.
TheGrey Knights are the armed force of the Iquistion chapter "Ordo malleus" - the Inquisitors dedicatd to hunt Demons. (the other chaperts are the Ordo heretic" (target: Heretics & Mutants) and the "Ordo Xenos" (target aliens, armed Force are the Death Watch, elite Spae Marines recruited from all over the different spacemarine chapters)
I thoroughly enjoy your reactions.
The Machine Spirit is a mix. In some cases it is literally a brain in a box. This applies to Land Raider tanks in particular.
In other cases, it's used to explain 'ghosts in the machine'. Your car won't start in the morning? It's Machine Spirit hasn't awoken properly. Your toaster burns the toast? It's Machine Spirit has a fiery temprament...
In Titans, the Machine Spirit is it's actual temper. It is 'haunted' by it's previous Princeps' (main pilots) and all of the consciousnesses (is that a word?) of these previous Princeps' form a single personality in the Titan.
The machine spirit is often believed to be a fragment of a god, which the Emperor trapped and sealed on Mars. This fragment being something similar to C’Tan, the beings responsible for the Nekron.
Although acknowledging that it might essentially be Nekron god, which is a fragment of an even greater being is of course shunned.
to answer your question about mechanicus: any kind of machines (even the simplest ones like a bicycle) has a will of its own. at the time of 40k, the machines' minds aren't made or meant to be deep. because any will is corruptible, although machines are tougher to corrupt, that is why A.I. are banned in the first place, and replaced by mindwiped slaves.
but picture this:
a spaceship has a mind similar to a dog's mind. you have to care for it. you have to heal it. you have to mend its wounds be them spiritual or physical. if you do not, if you neglect it and abuse it for too long, that spaceship, just like a dog, will bite you in the end.
so, you care for your ship. refuel it as soon as possible, repair it as soon as it's damaged. a mechanicus adept has to tend it, oil it and "ask for its help" (praying to it) before battle or use. because if you do not do that, if you just ignore the machine's will, that machine will fall to chaos.
Some things I wanted to point out. The Emperor, upon arriving on Mars after conquering Earth saw how powerful the Mechanicus (known then as the Mechanicum) was and decided that instead of weakening himself through conflict with them, which he would have won, it was easier to just let them continue their worship under his rule. Which was relatively easy considering they believed him to be the Omnissiah, who's not the Machine-God, but it's Messiah. As for human brains being machine-spirits, not exactly. A machine-spirit is essentially an ai that is too simple to be a true intelligence. Where an ai may act like a human, a machine-spirit (depending on the machine) will act like an animal. Something like a lasgun will be extremely simple to placate, just give it a quick prayer and some oil and you're good to go. A Titan is described as a leviathan in both it's size and it's machine-spirit. As for the stagnation, it's because they'll wipe out everything they suspect of tech heresy, which they include inventing as. Because of the unchecked progress of the Golden Age of Humanity, mankind was almost made extinct by it's creations and to prevent that from happening again, progress must be checked. That's also why the Imperium uses servitors instead of ai, because the machine is fused with a lobotomized human, it can't be an ai.
With the Sororitas, they are most definitely a force of the Ecclesiarchy, not a force of the Imperium under them. Bricky is right in that they are nuns of the Ecclesiarchy, they do everything nuns do now. Lead prayer, provide charity, etc. There's dozens of different orders with specific callings, like translation of both human languages and even xeno languages, running hospitals in places ravaged by plague or war, etc. The Battle orders, the Sisters of Battle, are actually kind of in the minority of the Sororitas. Any planet that's under the Ecclesiarchy, is a shrine world, a home of a saint, etc, you'll find a convent of Sororitas.
Subset of both. They are the ordo malleus's chamber militant (like the sisters of battle are the chamber militant for the ordo hereticus) but are their own chapter. Dedicated to eliminate demons instead of "regular" threats to the imperium
my first battle on a games workshop table was my fresh painted 500 points of Tau. 1 commander, 20 fire caste warriors and one devilfish transporttank. way back then we had the rule that you had to field one command and 2 standard units and Grey Knights were so pricy in points, that i had to allow him to use 550 so that he could meet that requrement. so he had 1 captain, and 10 grey knights. My infantry was overrun quickly, my tank destroyed. but i felt like a winner afterwards because i managed to fell one and wound the captain with my commander thanks to using a building and the jumppack to its fullest.
the grey knights are a separate chapter of space marines, unique in that they didnt come from one of the legions
they where made in desperation during the horus heresy
they work for/alongside the inquisition of the ordo malleus
but they are not under their command, they are a separate wing of the ordo that often cooperates but can use inquisitorial authority themselves
Regarding the Grey Knights at 25:27 : The I is the mark of Malcador the Sigilite, the Emperors Regent. The Knights-Errant were the precursors of the Inquisition and Grey Knights and those were given the real Sigil of Malcador as a badge of office. The Inquisition and Grey Knights are similarly vested with power, carrying the authority of the Emperors Regent. That means they are just one small step below the Talons of the Emperor (i.e. the Custodes and Sisters of Silence). Especially the Sisters of Silence may not look it, but they have the Authority to overrule an Inquisitor.
Unrelated to 40k, but directly related to your comments about the Swiss Gaurd.
The Swiss Gaurd came into being in the late 1400's, early 1500's, originally as a group of Swiss Pikemen. The Swiss Pikes were mercenary units hired out to various nobles etc and were considered some of the best troops avaliable at the time. A unit of Swiss Pikes were in the employ of the Vatican at the time that Vatican Ciry was besieged by an army of German Landschkenict (please don't judge my horrible spelling there) mercenaries. The German mercs had suffered heavy losses crossing the Alps in inclinate weather, primarily their supply trains. Finding themselves without their supplies and too far away from the German Principalities for resupply, the laid seige to the Vatican. The seige lasted six months and the killing was so brutal that record say that it was possible to walk from the edge of the city to the Vatican proper without touching a cobblestone, if you only walked on the dead. By the time the seige lifted, the mercenary Swiss Pikemen were the only military unit in the employ of the Vatican still fighting and even then, they had withdrawn to the Pope's palace and focused the entirety of their efforts on preserving his life. In response, a Papal Bull was issued stating that all further Pope's hence forth would retain the services of a gaurd comprised entirely of Swiss Pikemen, hence the creation of the Swiss Gaurd and the mandate that all members must be of Swiss descent. Further, in modern terms, as I understand it, they must have completed a specified number of years of military service, be unmarried and Catholic.
As I underatand it (and I'm sure someone else has already answered this) the Grey Knights are their own chapter, but have no Primarch. They also work as a militant arm of the Inquisition's Ordos Malleus (demon hunters). Just as the Death Watch is the Ordos Xenos' arm and the Sororitas is the Ordos Hereticus'.
in Warhammer 40k lore there has been a case of a vehicle containing to fight while it's crew has been incapacitated
I've always read the ritualistic nature of the Adeptus Mechanicucs being that they don't understand the technology but have a step by step ritual to re-load, start and maintain your gear. It's that they've ritualised field manuals etc.
Machine Spirit is simply a word for computer or AI that they don't understand.
One thing the video fails to mention is the STC (standard template construct) a device that allows the imperium to manufacture items from the "Dark Age of Technology" without ever understanding the items or the production
Yea, I guess it must just seem like a ritual if you don't know the underlying tech
@@CombatVeteranReacts exactly think about field stripping a riffle or the tech support "have you switched it on and off again" it's already ritualistic in the repetition of it and as soon as we loose the understanding of why we do these things adding in superfluous things like chanting, incense and unnecessary steps is just waiting to happen
To echo the Grey Knights answer probably shouted from all the replies:
1) Grey Knights are their own unique chapter of Space Marines with a semi-unclear origin.
2) Grey Knights serve directly under the Inquisition so closely that they are often treated as if they themselves were the Inquisition, even by fans.
3) Grey Knights are Lore Badasses but between rulebook writer Matt Ward's OP rules and subsequent rules Nerfs they are simultaneously hated by fans qnd loved by those same fans.
Interesting to see a love hate faction
Grey Knights are technically one of the capters of space marines, and technically a militant wing of the Ordo Malleus of Inquisition. But they don't follow any of the regular rules for space marines and Inaquisitors can only ask them to do something, not order.
The grey knights are an independent organization created by Malcador just before the end of the Heresy. They often work hand in hand with the inquisition.
Regarding your question about grey knights, they aren't technically a chapter of space marines. They're technically a sub faction of the inquisition but also their own faction
As far as I understand is that it's a bit like with the Orks. Enough people believe it is true, so it becomes true.
Nobody outside the Adeptus Mechanicus (will shorten to AM) has any idea how a lasgun, or plasma reactor works. And those that do are hereteks. So the AM has pretty much an absolute monopoly on manufacture and repair of technology and the rest of the imperium has a superstitious fear of technology in general, especially the ones lower on the hierachical pecking order.
As for the magic/spirit part:
First of all, the AM has spent millenia and let superstition, fear, rote memory on how to do things and Actual understanding of technology bleed into each other. That leads to some funny conundrums and questions... A tech-priest for instance can, with the wave of a hand, unjam one or more malfunctioning las rifles of a guardsmen squad.
But said tech-priest is also full of tech himself, the hand he waves might not be his original hand at all anymore. So he might just be instinctively doing what was taught to him as sacred ritual which actually just is how the implants in his arms activate their shennanigans.
But 40K is FULL of stories of tech-priest doing things that should just not have worked using strictly tech-sci-fi logic. And that is what Bricky means with "they have a point because it is obviously working"... and human technology has a sort of life of it's own too. Some voidships that spent thousand years in wars and survived might aquire "ticks" in their machine spirit such as being super paranoid and actually starting the loading process for the macro-cannon broadsides the moment the auspex detects an unknown vessel. Things like that actually happen.
When the machine spirit is willing your gun works. When the machine spirit is insulted (by poor treatment, letting the rifle lie in the dirt, not doing the Rite of Maintenance regularly) it will jam more often or just not work at all. If the machine spirit is roused and enraged your las-gun does more damage.
My guess is that is a mixture of rote rituals as well as the constant, millenia long faith of the AM into the Omnissiah actually changing how tech works, through faith.
Since faith actually does stuff in 40K.
To me, personally, faith in 40K is just latent use of psychic potential all sentient species have that are connected to the warp. Psykers are strong enough to do stuff on their own while the rest of humanity has to have certain shared beliefs and triggers that enable what are, for all intents and purposes, literal miracles.
Usually that is faith in the God-Emperor.
But faith in the Omnissiah is something that also is practiced on every imperial world and by untold billions. So naturally it has to have some effect at least too.
Machine spirits are separate from the lobotomized brains they put in some things. While not all machines will have a human brain within them they are all believed to hold a machine spirit. More complex and powerful machines tend to have stronger spirits (which might be ai it’s unclear) that can sometimes act out on their own without or against the will of their users.
Also the emperor decided not to conquer them since they would be too costly to defeat (especially since the only other world in the imperium at the time was earth) and they would be far more useful and effective as willing allies.
Also with the tech stagnation there’s a different reason. Humanity in this universe actually became much more advanced than they are in the 41st milenium. But something called the age of strife (which is a long story) caused technology to regress immensely. As kind of a response to this the adeptus mechanicus has the main belief that all technology already exists and just needs to be found again. So one of their main goals is always finding old tech that exceeds their own. Even in the year 40,000 humanity is pathetically weak compared to their prime. Even some of the imperium’s best current equipment was originally meant for mining, farming, and labor before.
I guess when the emperor only had one planet, he couldn't afford to make enemies
the Grey Knights are a specialized Chapter that exist to serve as the army of the Ordo Malleus ( the daemon (Chaos) hunting/killing order of the inquisition. this branch is allowed to have men at arms, and the grey knights are the tip of the spear.
Regarding how the Mechanicus came to join the Imperium - The Imperium is actually the Twin Union of Terra and Mars. The Emperor made a pact with the Mechanicus to join him. Conquering Mars, when he had only just united Terra, against a technological equal would have tied them up for too long, and there was no guarantee they would win.
Grey Knights are made in response to the Horus Heresy, as a Special Forces dedicated to fight Chaos and prevent another incident of that scale. They are essentially the militant arms of the Inquisition branch that focus on dealing with Daemons. (The Inquisition have many branches, the big three being Alien hunters, Heretic hunters, and Daemon hunters being the oldest).
Grey Knights are pretty much one of the main part of the Inquisition's Founding. And while other Space Marine Chapters get their gene-seeds / genetic enhancements from their Primach (Emperor's sons), the Grey Knights get the genetic of the Emperor himself.
As they are part of the "secret police," most of the Imperium doesn't even know they exist (outside the Inquisition and the highest ranks people). So if Space Marines are the elite soldiers of the army, then Grey Knights is something like the super agents in movies where they act like a one-man-army and beat up the villains. Except you know, there's an army of them.
I have to say, the reason I like the sororitas is because they are some of the only regular, non-augmented humans to ever match space marines in combat.
Sisters are augmented though. Just less so than Space Marines.
@@vortex_1336 I know the sisters of battle have power armor and sometimes lower level psycher powers, but I don't think they have genetic augmentations like space marines. The sisters of silence on the other hand have small augmentations.
@@nighthawk72j80 They have genetic modifications. Just not as extensive as Space marines since females aren't compatible with geneseed.
@@vortex_1336 Did they always have augmentations? Or was that a while after the whole Goge Vandire incident?
@@nighthawk72j80 I mean, pretty much everyone is augmented. Inquisitors, Sisters, assassins, imperial army officers. Everyone except common soldiers.
In older descriptions of how mashine spirits and the rituals around them work, it seemed more like a misunderstanding of regular (high tech) maintenance mixed with esoteric believes.
Essentially, you need to sing in high gothic while making an oil change because the first guy who made that tank work sung in high gothic (maybe because he feared that the machine might explode or something and wanted to distract himself and if he dies at least die being a good emperor-believing techpriest) while changing its oil.
It had that misinterpreted technological understanding that we can see in Cargo Cults for example - but which kinda worked because it hit enough of the actual helpful stuff along with it that a basic level of maintenance was reached.
Machine spirits were a lot more along the lines of not actual A.I. but rather highly sophisticated coding. Basically what would happen if you asked an A.I. to write a perfect piece of tank code that would include every possible situation the tank would ever be in.