Bolter rounds are aelf-guided rocket-propelled grenades. They have a mass-reactive charge that causes the round to explode from within the target. The tips are also a diamantine substance to give it significant armor-piercing capabilities.
@@fathomless Pretty much. It's really just to encourage the morale of the Guardsmen however as doing so will just decrease their individual odds of survival from 0.01% to 0.005% since they don't know that the Space Marines are going into the literal heart of the enemy.
What I love is that the Astartes do actually take time to consider their actions but they're on an almost instinctive level. When they encounter the ambush gunners the first marine runs past, the second determines the caliber by sound and angles his shoulder plate to deflect it as he passes and the third marine holds position until the fourth can flank the gunners and take them out. The marine in the corridor cross section also shows awareness by sound as he hears the lone suicide bomber running up behind him, or more precisely he hears the krak charge that he was holding (most people miss it and assume it to be a helmet that the rebel drops, it's more akin to a limpet mine) before smoothly knifing him. The marine that faces the multi-laser does this as well, he understands he has reasonable protection against it's fire (another reason why the rebel infantry were just running away, they know that their lasguns can't do enough damage to the space marine's power armor to down him before he kills them all so they were simply running for their lives) but realizes that his bolter will not penerate the weapon's armor plate so he ducks back into cover as his armor starts to take minor damage, pops a flash grenade and then takes it out with a precise application of a plasma weapon. That's the kind of tactical awareness you rarely see in any media that protrays the marines, and Astartes gets it perfectly.
Very well said, it showcases beautifully how well ingrained the Codex Astartes is in Marines, they don't flinch, they know what their Battle Brothers are doing and apply without any hesitation for putting their own life at risk.
40k is also just weird, tactically. It's a warfare theater where shielding and armor has advanced much much faster than munitions and ranged weapons, but because those defensive measures are so good against ranged attacks, melee becomes not only viable but optimal. A dude with a hatchet and a jet pack is a greater threat to an aircraft than a SAM missile is. You kinda gotta twist your head around a little bit to actually strategize for 40k
Also for astartes they have a greater advantage in melee than they have in ranged fight. So it makes sense to get to a situation where you ar much better than the opponent, sometimes because you are very good and sometimes because they are very bad but the result is the same.
To help: Bolters aren't small. Astartes are just friggin huge. Look at the opening hallway shot in episode 1 where some navy officers squeeze past them in a hallway. Astartes are huge. And so are bolters. Also, bolters have around 30 varieties, but the most common variant is a 75cal, so, big, but not ridiculously huge. But they also have explosives inside for even greater effect. Fun lore facts to consider. 👍
@@PyrusFlameborn Sort of both. The fire from a casing like a regular bullet, and the projectiles themselves are rocket-assisted. They also explode after impact, detonating inside the target.
@@thomasp506 Depends on the version. Originally (from what I've been told, came in 3rd Ed.) Boltguns AKA Bolters were basically rapid fire rocket launchers, using no cases at all, simply firing spin stabilized rockets which detonate a fraction of a second after piercing the target. But a lot of artworks were created with shell casings being launched out of Bolters like normal guns, seems they tweaked the Lore slightly so there were versions that used casings. And with their degrading understanding of technology, I can totally see versions being made that used casings for greater initial launching speed...
TL;DR Massive lore dump that explains Combat Veteran Reacts' questions. 1. The drones escorting the boarding craft are intercepting incoming missiles, the boarding craft has armor too thick to care about a little space dust. 2. The faction the Astartes are fighting is group of secessionists, not necessarily Chaos worshippers. The dude in the mask is a Psyker and the mask is a device called a psychic hood with works to stabilize the psyker's powers and helps to prevent the psyker from losing control of his abilities and exploding (or worse). 3. Yep, the Astartes are used in raids or QRF. An Astartes company (100 marines) can mobilize very quickly and come to the defense of high level assets within days whereas the slow, grinding wheels of the Imperial Guard which is akin regular army. It could take the Imperial Guard many years if not a decade to mobilize a regiment, but take and hold missions is what the Guard does best. 4. To call a Bolter a pistol. Yes, it's small in the hands of an Astartes but it's a CQB. Imagine an M4 being chambered in 20mm grenades. The bulk of the weapon is nearly all barrel and chamber.
to be fair the guys retreating down the hallway were probably just fleeing in a blind panic after getting stomped so hard and the guy on multilaser either didn't care about his buddy's or panicked as well
My assumption always was the gunner panicked the second he saw the Astartes and fired early, even without his own troopers in the way if he'd held fire a few more seconds the marine would be half way up the corridor with no cover
Just adding to the comments on the MultiLas part.... there's no delaying an Astartes. These renegades were doing absolutely nothing to the Astartes that was chasing them. If they'd done a bounding retreat (apologies if that's not what you called it, CVR. I'm forgetful), the only slowing done would be him having to step over corpses. I haven't gotten further along, but they're essentially WW1 infantry against a modern tank. As demonstrated as the MultiLas doing more damage than everything else the infantry threw at them.
One funny thing, in the 40k universe it's often the preferred tactic of Space Marines to board an enemy vessel even if the intent is simply to place charges on the reactor and blow the ship up. Between the layered Void Shields and the heavy armor of the ships in 40k, it would often result in drawn out slugging matches when ships attempt to destroy each other through bombardment. Astartes can take down an enemy's Void Shields using their shipboard guns, then slip boarding torpedoes in before the shields recharge, and affect much more damage from within than they could do by just continually blasting away at the ship until the shields come back up. It can often take hours upon hours of continual fire to take down the shields, leaving bare minutes for actual damage to be done before they pop back up, so getting a few squads of armored super soldiers aboard can bring the fight to the enemy directly and start doing damage to the more vulnerable internal systems much more effectively. The only real advantage a Space Marine ship has over a normal Navy ship is the angry boys inside it, so they use them.
To be fair, most Astartes ships are designed for transport and support of the Space Marines, and are not dedicated void warships. In our parlance, closer to Assault Ships than Warships. The Navy of the Imperium is much better suited to acting like actual warships. It would be little different today if we were looking at an assault ship vs an aegis cruiser, they would both be looking at how to handle the situation with the resources on hand. And the Marines in this video are impressive resources in their own right.
@@angrydragonslayer Depends on which part of the "fanfiction" you read. Games workshop is notorious for approving material that directly contradicts their previously established canonical lore. Their quality control on that end is pretty shit and mildly annoying... Granted what do they really care? They just want to sell you figurines, video games, and books. Who cares if any of it is actually consistent?
a lot of the chapters also consider it more honourable to board and face your enemy. I forget which book but I've heard (well read I mean) one say there is no honour in void war.
"Just because something is risky or insane doesn't mean it won't happen in this (Warhammer 40k) Universe". That's like the greatest understatement ever made.
@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 It's up in the air, to be honest. GW is inconsistent about what can and can't kill a Daemon, and how much said killing will stick. So I really don't know. Then again, the resilience of some Daemons means that it won't work full stop.
Codex astartes is for guilliam lovers .... suffer not the unclean to live Uphold the honor of the emperor,abhor the witch, destroy the witch, accept any challange no matter the odds.. true edicts of the faithful.. we are his sword ... and ill be exicuted for saying this but .. we outnumber all of you
Well the 2 dudes are psyckers, basically jedis on steroids and the astartes chapter that is doing the boarding action actually does anti psycker tactics to overcome them. Its one of their specialities
@@CombatVeteranReacts basically why they got into melee is because to over come such powerfull psyckers you need to tire them our or have powerfull enough weapons as to penetrate their barrier/shield. Which the astartes lacked. And as you see once they pass the barrier they can easily kill them/hurt them. Also they were linked so if one died the other was momentarly frozen
@@CombatVeteranReacts yeah usually anti-psyker combat is handled by the inquisition as they have specialized gear to deal with psykers (either weapons that hurt them or dampen/outright disable their powers) but the Astartes here work closely with the inquisition. Plus boarding a ship and dealing with a few companies of enemies would require about double or triple that of regular humans, which is most likely why the Astartes are doing it
@@DeadWayfes I dunno if it was so much them being linked as the psychic backlash caused by the death of the first while he was actively utilizing his power.
And the psykers in this video are actually very weak as a mid powered psyker is more on the level of a planetary threat, an average human psyker would have probably just wiped the floor with the space marines if not just exploding their cruiser from the get go
In 40k Boarding is not such a precision strike like looking for an object or person(in this case it is). But rather a way to deliver troops to another ship and fight a pitch land battle in space. Remember that most of these ships are not CQC. These ships are HUGE, like the size of city blocks type big. The goal is not to kill 1 thing or take 1 thing like how special forces operate. The goal is to *massacre* and *KILL* anyone and everyone Defending the enemy ship and to either take control of it or to blow it up. Think of it as a Hammer rather than a scalpel. Doing as much damage as those broadsides and bombs you were talking about. However the case that you are being shown in Astartes is that specific scalpel task
Yeah, even the ship where those space marines are in start of this video, Cobra class destroyer, which is one of the smallest escort ships of Imperial Navy, is about 900 metres long and has crew of tens of thousands. I don't remember if servitors are counted to that number.
13:20 The gunner was likely so terrified when he saw the space marine that all thought of tactics and preserving friendly life left his mind and he just squeezed the trigger.
The cynical side of things is that the death of one marine is tactically worth much more than the soldiers. The value of one marine is equal to a company of normal soldiers if not more. While friendly fire happened, I'm sure what was being conveyed was that the desperation of killing a single marine meant that much more than all of their lives.
11:50 They had an equivalent of running away from a tank with aim hack while having nerf guns, so staying back for any amount of time would just mean they'd be picked off a few seconds faster than their buddies.
I just wanted to point out that the technique of using a plank to hook on to an enemy ship in order to board was actually a Roman thing, not Greek. The Greeks would try to brush past the other ship and shear off their oars with the prow of their ship. The Roman boarding plank (called a Corvus, if I remember) was developed during one of the Punic wars (I don't remember which) to make up for the fact that the Romans weren't as comfortable with naval combat as the Carthaginians, and would much prefer to fight a land battle. And that's my pedantic nitpick done for the day.
An interesting side note to this, is that in the Horus Heresy novels (10,000 yrs before the events of 40k) the Primarch Angron of the World Eaters legion, used a massively scaled up version of this boarding tactics. His flagship vessel had an array of large harpoons that he would fire into and hook onto target ships. The ropes of the harpoons (if you could call them ropes) where actually hollow that would allow his troops to use to move through and onto the target vessel. Also if I'm not mistaken, the planet and culture that Angron grew up in was highly influenced by Roman and Greek history. I may be wrong with that last part, but the point is, the writers definitely do their homework (for the most part).
@@sharks3010 I know the 300 worlds of Ultramar followed an enlightened Romanesque society modelled on progressiveness, learning and cultural prosperity but I wouldn’t have likened Angrons world to have been Roman per-sè. The closest parallel really would have been there fascination with brutal colosseum-based entertainment but, it’s kind of difficult to put a finger on exactly which culture they resembled the most since a big thing with them was slavery and barbarism which, almost every human culture has played a part in throughout history.
The corvus wasn't a plank with a hook, it's a damn spike. Furthermore, although I cannot recall if the Greeks did it originally but roman ships also used their ship as a ram. The frontt of a ship has basically a spike. If the ship crashes in to another perpendicularly, it could very well tore the ship in half, though I recall that this really isn't a good idea because the ship can get stuck
@@SpartanMikey Good point. After doing a bit more reading on Angrons 'origin story', it does seem that slavery and fighting pits are the only major things that he and his homeworld have in common with the Romans. So I definitely stand corrected on that. I've only been reading/listening to the HH novels for the past couple of years. I've made my way through the lions share of Space Wolves and Night Lords books as well as the first half dozen HH books in order. So lately I've gotten a taste for World Eaters (not enough to know what I am talking about yet though) and Eisenhorn. As great as it is having so much to choose from, I think it's going to take me a few decades to get through it all. Plus that doesn't even include the content in the codexes. Apart from some Ork stuff here and there I haven't even got onto any of the xenos material. Thanks for the update though mate, I've definitely got a better picture of Angron and his planet in my minds eye now.
Imagine haveing a gun the size of a Coffee machine fireng APHE shells the size of a Redbull can With a Rocket engine at the back that explodes when its Mass increases.
@@F14thunderhawk They're the same size as a 12-guage shell but a Bolt-gun round is still self-propelled mass-reactive explosive rounds. One of the books says they have a distinctive tripple-bang "bangbang-bang" sound: First is the boltgun firing, the second is the rocket igniting shortly afterwards, the third delayed bang is the round exploding after penetrating *something*
Interestingly. In the 30k books it is written that the bolter explodes humans into minced meat, and it seems the bolter was made with humans specifically in mind. However in the 40k books, the humans are not good enough triggers. So most of the time the bolter shot just passes through. It still leaves a small explosion like impact wave and a basketball sized hole, both which I don't think many survives.
Regarding the multilaser at ~12:30 “buzzsawing” their own troops and life having no meaningful value - this is instead a very calculated value: luring in a single space marine for the mere cost of a score of normal humans is a fantastic trade. If you think that’s callous, just remember that was exactly the situation that MAC V SOG faced in Vietnam when they called in Arc Light strikes on their location (my father was on the receiving end of one, and set off metal detectors for the rest of his life. He thought it was worth the risk (and given his shadow box compared to mine, he was right).
Still actually it'll be more efficient to lure the marine deeper into the hallway so it can't return to cover quickly. It's just a plot device to highlight chaos brutality, but not a sound tactical choice.
@@firmanimadI think there was a plan to lure him in but at that point the traitors were in a full route and no longer able to think tactically and the gunner was probably panicking a bit as well not expecting to see the marines already there and all is buddy’s running for there lives so he went full panic mode and fired
I was in the marines and that's how our room clearing always went. Enter room, kill everything in said room, proceed to next room. Also you need to realize that the space marines are on average 8 - 9+ feet tall so the magazines for their bolters are way bigger than they look.
Also, Space Marine power armour is like clomping around, wearing an Abrams with the Bolter being more like 40mm Grenade launcher than an assault rifle, firing rocket propelled armour piercing rounds, with an impact fused explosive charge that detonates inside the target. And this is their standard weapon, we don't even get into the exotic stuff like Metas (Thermal blast weapon) and Grav-Guns (Amplifies the force of gravity acting on a target, to crush it)
@@omarabe26 Maybe not 40mm calibre, but the absolutely brutal effect it has on the target is probably the same since the bolt round detonates inside the target
I want to put out the idea that while the traitors did start out using tactically sound strategies at the start, once they realized that they were fighting Astartes and that none of their weapons would even scratch the armor, they were pretty much just retreating en mass. I would say that was around the point they wheeled out the turret and people were rushing down the hallway all together without bothering to provide cover fire. For their part, I would point out the Astartes almost never broke pace. They recognized that most of the incoming fire wasn’t a threat. They were simply killing them all along the way, because they were traitors and deserved to die.
15:14 Please note a space marine is 8 ft tall, a Standard Bolter for SM is easily larger than any modern light machine gun. It is actually a Fully Automatic RPG. Even when braced by the SM in that scene, he had trouble with the recoil at max RPM. There are variable ammo types however but standard shells are rocket powered and detonate while inside a target and use shrapnel to cause damage.
You underestimate the importance of Melee in the 40k universe. In modern day and most other scifi universes you almost never see melee combat as an actual plan A B C D ect strategy. In 40k It is the plan A and or plan B. Melee is just as important as range. Think of Boarding as ships "Melee" each other.
@@CombatVeteranReacts The general Idea with the melee in warhammer 40k absolutly for people like the space marines. if you face 100 people and 100 people are shooting at you ...one or ten might hit something important as its still armor and all armor has its weakpoints. In melee they are stronger and faster than the average enemy. so if you are in their lines running and crushing their friends they cant get a clear shot or even get time to aim their gun and shoot. So when your that close and they cant shoot or aim they can kill them all or distract them enough while their friends shoot their remaining ones. and if they are facing orks who loves fighting in close range its good to be able to defend yourself and kill them with your sharp stick instead of them killing you with their sharp stick. cause when it is orks or Tyranids they will out number you so its only a question of when they will reach melee. And also the bolters are kind of rocket launchers...but yes it is quite questionable how they fit so many rounds but each of those rounds is a small rocket thats why they look the way they do and thats why they people hit are blown up.
@@CombatVeteranReacts bolter rounds are exaggerated in seize and also displayed in a lot of media wrong. Bolter rounds are .75 caliber and for heavy bolters 1.00 . The bolt gun itself is a massive gun that itself is pretty chunky looking as well as the magazine
In our modern world, there is a fine balance between armor protection and ranged weaponry, with ranged weaponry having the undisputed edge over armor. Certainly the gap has closed in recent years, but still pretty much long range guns are just far more effective. The same principle applies in 40K, but the superiority of ranged firepower over armor is not as straightforward. Space Marine power armor is more or less effective against most 40K guns, except anti-armor weapons or very dedicated anti-power armor weapons. In this instance, even the Auto-cannon used in the ambush, which would be close to a 20mm real life round, would not be considered appropriate anti-power armor weapon, as it lacks sufficient penetrating power to overcome the advanced layered alloy used on Astartes power armor. For all intents and purposes, Space Marines are walking tanks and can more or less move with impunity in almost any combat scenario without mayor deterrent and even then they are fast enough, strong enough, smart enough and so excessively trained, that very few enemies can manage to slow them down, much less stop them. Because of this and other factors, it would be better to qualify Space Marines as Medieval Knights. They can and will use their superior strength and powerful armor, not to mention devastating speed to close in with the enemy and devastate them in close combat, where very few enemies are their peers and Space Marines are effectively indefatigable, so their killing sprees usually end when their targets are killed, not because they slow down. ua-cam.com/channels/MYdyjyHjKMzltuatKxkudw.html
@@fernandoramirez1605 Hopefully they're smart enough to give him creative freedom. Work on this level is _much_ more valuable than they'll get by crippling him. Unfortunately the version they put on their 'community site' is pretty well butchered.
The thing about a bounding retreat in this instance (the Guardsmen fleeing down the hall) is that their weapons are utterly ineffective against a target like a Space Marine. They will not seek cover against that weapon, because it's not a legitimate threat to them. I understand that, obviously, my opinion isn't as qualified as yours given that this is a combat envionment, but in the Warhammer universe, facing (or even seeing) an Astartes in action, be he friend or foe, instills what is called "Transhuman dread"; the idea of "Oh my god what in the hell I can't fight that", which is why they didn't even attempt to execute something like that. At least, that's how I see it.
Doesnt some books describe a human seeing an astarte in action and the only thought he can process before getting brutally murdered is "How is that thing moving so fast"
eh that twinlinked multilas did a number on that marines armor. if you look at the armor right when he gets in cover you will see it clowing from its hits and there are meltingmarks that are visible for the rest of the series on jis armor damage would have been severe if not lethal if he was deeper in that corridor..
14:28 - notice that this is also the first time we see the Astartes employ full-auto against opponents. They set to full-auto, braced their guns to help with recoil, and pulled the trigger. And it wasn't enough
@@CombatVeteranReacts He showed the squad only ever used one round per each normal human cultist. That's all it took for every Marine and it was as efficient as they could get. Each bolter round hit its target until they got the Psykers and they had to go full auto. Saved one round from the Overcharged Lazpistol to break the Psyker Barrier since one round was all they needed.
Some not-so-obvious details about the boarding: - The boarding craft used by Astartes deploy a special sealant upon penetration of any enemy ship. This prevents Marines and other possibly important elements from being sucked out into the vacuum of space. - These guardsmen are renegades which likely were under the control of Xenos or Chaos. The two imposing figures at the end were likely Psykers. They have that inherent psychic shield and have to concentrate on applying their other abilities, as you saw. Distract and flank was the way to go, given their lack of firepower (a strange thing to say, given these are Space Marines). I can't say much else without spoiling, but I think your hunch about this being a raid is quite accurate.
The sucked out to void is actually kind of myth created by Hollywood. One astronaut reacting to scifi movies depunked it. It's not that big of treat as movies try to convey...
They are heretics following the Tau communist blue berries. That Tau psyker is a powerful xeno psionic and these humans are likely subverted by the Tau Empire.
@@ImpKnt80 There are no Tau psykers. Tau have no presence in the warp and as a species, absolutely no idea it even exists. The maker of the movie, Pedersen, confirmed this was his own new alien race, and the psykers were basically a sort of high priest of the cult they had build around them, since they don't really have bodies.
@@HistoryGameV "Tau have no presence in the warp and as a species, absolutely no idea it even exists." They do, in fact, have small souls in the warp, just not nearly as big and vulnerable as humans. They also do know that it exists, and while they cannot travel through it for FTL travel, they do utilize the warp for it. They are unaware tht chaos exists, but I thought that was about to change last I checked, because of the deathguard or something.
from Lexicanum : "The Boltgun, also commonly referred to as the Bolter, is the standard weapon of the Adeptus Astartes and Adepta Sororitas. A .75 caliber weapon, the Boltgun fires a self-propelled explosive 'bolt' which explodes with devastating effect once it has penetrated its target, effectively blowing it apart from the inside. Finely hand-crafted by Space Marine Forges or the Adeptus Mechanicus, Boltguns are heavy, sturdy weapons with a powerful recoil normal humans would find difficult to handle."
@@swatcccp4673 Bolters and moreso bolt pistols, are 'fairly' common amongst Guard command units (platoon commanders and higher as I recall) though I would imagine that while the caliber remains the same, either the wielder has some kind of augmetics to absorb recoil or the weapon itself has a recoil suspensor.
@@richburn2521 command units of the guard, the tempestus scion and the commisars all have minor augmentations to improve combat effectiveness, the tempestus scion being the most augmented of these (they're the equivalent to tier one units in warhammer 40K, but way more intensively, they're chosen in their early years of life and start their training as early as 6 years of age, which effectively makes them unstoppable, virtually emotionless killing machines.
If you look at the models themselves, the weapons tend to be smaller, even if they have the same classification. Also, unless I'm mistaken, guard carries "bolt pistols" astartes usually carry "heavy bolt pistols" if at all
@nemis010 GW did say that they wanted to give him as much artistic freedom as they could within reason. they just want him on their pay roll. "poacher turned gamekeeper" I think is the technical term. they stated they dont wanna stifle his creativity, they just want him as one of their animators.
@BenjaminTheRogue I get that, I am not expecting a great deal from GW on this but it would be nice if they followed through withtheir promise instead of shittin on the guy
@BenjaminTheRogue I never said it would be terrible if they actually let the guy do his thing did I? yeah, would be lovely, just gotta sit here with our fingers crossed and hope
@BenjaminTheRogue I am just being pessimistic. it would be great if they did honour their word, we just gotta keep our fingers crossed and hope they do.
You have to remember that the "pistol" is about half of your height, they are huge. Also an Astartes in their power armor is probably about 7 and a half feet tall excluding backpack.
I laughed about what he said about the people retreating down the hallway because they know they can basically do nothing to these monstrous machines of war and are just trying to get away before they're turned to mulch
@@CombatVeteranReacts yeah at first glance they kinda just look like beefy guys like the Brute Chieftains in Halo, tough but killable. And then you take a look at the mountain of lore and they range from beefy Bois to "haha grenades and heavy weapons fire tickle me".
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yeah just look at the things that actually hurt them: A heavy sniper with heavy tank-killer rounds, an emplaced turret with upgraded firepower that only did damage from continual hits, and the enemy's own heavy units the Psykers with their shielding. Definitely more like mobile tanks than infantry.
@@CombatVeteranReacts One of the xenos races in 40k, the Tau Empire, actually does classify the Astartes as a type of heavily armored tank. I think you'd like them, both in and out of combat; the first time one of their commanders encounters a Dreadnought, for example, he realizes after talking to it once it's disabled that the Astartes inside of it is older than his entire civilization. Not older than him, or his family; the Space Marine is older than the entire Tau Empire.
As others have said the enemies on the ship are technically the creator's OCs in the universe, but they share a lot in common with a group called the Yu'Vath
A type of Xenos that are warp based, have mind controll powers, use puppet bodies and look like their real bodies are made out of bone. They got duped by the Imperium during the Angevin Crusade. If my memory, without bothering to look it up, serves me right.
@@BartimaeusAurelius "Officially" he was not aware of the Yu'Vath when he created the alien/demon things, but yeah, smells like someone tried to avoid a lawsuit xD
I’m pretty fuckin nerdy, know my WH40k lore, have little-no life and I’ve never heard of the Yu’Vath in more than *passing mention* or just named. Is dominik’s synopsis the sum of the lore available? So like Enslavers or Psyco... warp skeeters?
Main thing I love about this animation is that its one of the few that's not only shown Space Marines "to scale" but the ONLY ONE that shows Space Marines as the super-agile, strong ab-humans they are. All other animations show them as slow one-man-tanks but sure, they're armoured like a tank but it doesn't make them slow, they're faster than standard humans even wearing that armour.
I drew three scenes from this masterpiece in charcoal/graphite mix. Those scenes are so hard to replicate it took me 36 hours for 3 total scenes to be drawn. Literally the best Warhammer animation out there.
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@@CombatVeteranReacts !2:00 So how does a bounding retreat work when you have a tank bearing down on your squad? Do you fire your M4 at it in the hope that it uses it's Co-ax on you and doesn't fire it's main weapon into the retreating elements?
@@skipmage bounding against a tank? nah I'm pretty sure Every one would just haul ass as fast as they could in order to not get blown and or shot to shit, either try to break line of sight or get to cover
There's basically a cost vs. reward going in the hallway scene: If they could have taken down one or two Astartes with that, then the cost of mowing down their allies would have been "worth it" (if you disregard the respect for life). Then there's also this thing called "Transhuman Dread" going on in Warhammer. It boils down to a psychological shock through raw fear. Thinking straight probably wasn't there anymore. Excerpt from the book "Age of Darkness": "Transhuman dread. Aximand had heard iterators talk of the condition. He’d heard descriptions of it from regular Army officers too. The sight of an Adeptus Astartes was one thing: taller and broader than a man could ever be, armoured like a demigod. The singularity of purpose was self-evident. An Adeptus Astartes was designed to fight and kill anything that didn’t annihilate it first. If you saw an Adeptus Astartes, you knew you were in trouble. The appearance alone cowed you with fear. But to see one move. Apparently that was the real thing. Nothing human-shaped should be so fast, so lithe, so powerful, especially not anything in excess of two metres tall and carrying more armour than four normal men could lift. The sight of an Adeptus Astartes was one thing, but the moving fact of one was quite another. The psychologists called it transhuman dread. It froze a man, stuck him to the ground, caused his mind to lock up, made him lose control of bladder and bowel. Something huge and warlike gave pause: something huge and warlike and moving with the speed of a striking snake, that was when you knew that gods moved amongst men, and that there existed a scale of strength and speed beyond anything mortal, and that you were about to die and, if you were really lucking, there might be just enough time to piss yourself first." And it has to be said here, that Aximand was a Space Marine Captain, who was part of the Elite who were kind of like a council to the Primarch Horus of the Lunar Wolves/Sons of Horus. Even this Elite Space Marine Captain experienced it to some degree, which is kinda crazy considering the psychoi-ndoctrination and all the genetical enhancements they go through.
Robert heinlein's starship troopers is a highly recommended read. It is almost entirely different than the satirical movie that came out in the late '90s. It's really not an action book in it There is relatively little fighting, But a solid read-through will show why it was such a controversial book during the time period It was written and why it would probably be considered one today..... But it is an excellent novel in my opinion.
@@Annatar3019 Huh, hadn't heard of that myself but it doesn't really change the contents of the novel. Most all these people in high places are luciferian, occult , mason types. Also it's kind of funny that your name is one of Saurons.🤣
The autocannon sniper, if you watch it again, an Astartes is moving through the darkness parallel to the main column as an outrider of sorts and he deals with the sniper quickly. If anyone wants to see something similar, check out the vid of me playing a Night Lord in Eternal Crusade. It is rather entertaining, at least it was to me! Going to miss that game, it was a blast to play a few years back... Also I think the sphere entities are the Yu Vath, a lesser known Xenos or possibly Chaotic entity, since they like to use warp powers.
@Combat Veteran Reacts The 2 big guys are formally humans that have head removed and had that head and spine implanted onto the body to allow for the consciousness of a dead Xenos race the Yu'Vath. They are using the humans around the ship as fodder to protect themselves and what is in the door behind them
About the whole, “bounding retreat” thing before/during the multilaser. That would work if your guns were actually capable of harming the thing you’re shooting at. Their weapons, as demonstrated multiple times, weren’t even capable of making an Astartes flinch, let alone make them hesitate or take cover. Poor bastards were running for their lives while hoping the poor guy behind them got shot before they did because that was all they could do. And the guy on the multilaser cut down his own fellow soldiers because he had to take the chance to try and take down the Space Marine before the Marine saw him. Mostly, I think you just aren’t quite comprehending the kind of threat even a single Astartes is and simply default to thinking of tactics that would be effective against human soldiers and not the immortal and nigh unstoppable being that is an Adeptus Astartes
Yeah. It's more akin to fighting a tank than an enemy soldier, since you need specialized anti-armor weapons to do any damage. A Multi-laser like that isn't a very good weapon, but it at least _can_ inflict damage if it gets a lucky hit. Standard Lasguns are basically useless on Astartes.
while true, the only thing that made a dent was that 50.cal ( or whatever caliber that lone gunner ambushed them with ) to the first Astartes's helmet, but even then he would have to drill that same spot with laser like precision to get through.. but we all know that Astartes would be on your ass well before then lol
@@ulsedovthur5741 the multilaser don't equate either, if that was the case his entire power armor would have dents and scorch marks like the 1 on his helmet. That 2nd hallway trap didn't even phase his armor.
I believe there’s something in the lore that mentions the Boltors shoot something similar to what we would call .75 caliber rounds. It’s definitely sci-fi, but they’re pretty much micro rockets.
@LOAN NGUYEN Keep in mind that it's not really comparable to .50 BMG despite being the same size. The propellant in a .50 BMG is detonated instantly at the start, propelling the round. The actual bullet itself is a lot smaller than the casing, and is just mass with a proportionally small HE payload, or no HE at all. When a bolter round is fired, an initial charge propels it out of the barrel, after which the rocket booster ignites and propels it further. While the recoil is probably quite severe, it's not nearly as bad as firing a .50 BMG, as most of the energy comes from the rocket. The mass of the bullet itself is a lot more than a .50 BMG though, given that it's pretty much the size of the case and contains a very hefty HE charge and a penetrator.
@LOAN NGUYEN A boltpistol has as much energy as a 105mm howitzer? Not even close. Not sure if you're talking about energy of impact or recoil, but neither is close. A 105mm howitzer fired from your hands would rip your shoulder off and launch the gun 10 meters behind you. As for energy of impact, a single 105mm round can destroy a house. The recoil from a bolter would not be unreasonable. The only recoil is from the initial charge. Friendly reminder that we already have handheld weapons that do pretty much that, but even bigger and heavier. 40mm grenade launchers fire a much heavier round at a probably higher speed without having unreasonable recoil.
@LOAN NGUYEN Those stories are more likely just a fabrication to prevent people from trying to use bolters, as it's almost a space marine status symbol, not intended for the 'lowly' humans. There's also plenty of guardsmen that have used bolters to great effect, like Stonetooth Harker and trooper Bragg for example. They both use heavy bolters without much trouble. The 40K novels show plenty of bolters in use by people that aren't space marines. Guardsmen sometimes use them if they can get their hands on one. There's also a story where a sickly child in an overrun city finds one and kills a Berzerker with it.
@LOAN NGUYEN But Bolters aren't rare. Many blueprints were lost, but most boltgun patterns have been produced for a while. Given how practically every space marine and a load of other people have them, I'd say they are pretty common weapons.
@LOAN NGUYEN Space marines might be in the minority, but there's still a million of them. Several forge worlds produce bolters, so it's really no big deal. Some specific patterns have been lost, but they weren't intended for mass use anyway, so it's mostly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. No one talked about equipping regular troops with bolters. The whole reason why the lasgun is such a great gun isn't just because it's relatively inexpensive. It's because the logistics behind it are perfect for a gigantic army. It doesn't require ammo and barely requires any maintenance. It is powerful and accurate enough for it's job and can be employed in almost any situation. Even if they suddenly found an enormous cache of bolters, enough for every guardsmen, they wouldn't want to issue it.
It varies a bit, but overall an astartes can essentially “hibernate” for decades until he is rescued. Sometimes they do this when injured, or lost in space, in order to slow down their resource consumption. They have so many redundancies built into their bodies and armor that they’re harder to kill that a horror movie villain.
@@TheLeugim66 That is only if they are in a suit, without it they would die as their suit is what keep nourishes them with chemicals and nutrients. When an astartes is grievously wounded he'll enter a state of hibernation using his Sus-An Membrane, longest recorded survival was just short of 600 years. Note: The new Primaris Space Marines has something called the Belisarian Furnace that is the last ditch effort to keep the marine alive when wounded, it essentially increases their healing factor and makes them super... super soldiers.
i usually never comment on "your typical reaction type videos", but it's highly enjoyable to see someone having a brain and using it, commenting, sharing his thoughts and truly analysing what he sees. Good content. Cheers from France.
I love the detail of the scene where they are attacking the psykers and that first marine to open fire pushes his sub machine gun onto the railing and then puts his hand on top of it to try and stabilize it at full auto. The sheer size of the bullets they are effectively small grenades
This is how you do a reaction! With pauses and interesting commentary. I'm sick of all the reaction channels where they just sit there and go "oh damn... Shit" and occasionally nod or just eat food. Have a like my man!
@@CombatVeteranReacts Unfortunately yes. Which is why it's so refreshing to see your take on this genre of yt-videos. And I thought your commentary was interesting, because I myself is in the national guard in my home country. I too like to draw comparisons between fiction and real applications in these combat scenarios.
I personally enjoy a raw reaction, with the first time going through just seeing them reacting to the pacing and buildup of what they're reacting to. Pauses to add a reaction kills any tension that the original piece has, and takes away from the experience. I prefer having the more detailed breakdown after it's done, with potentially jumping back into notable parts to further break down what they're talking about. This one is a bit unique though since it came in pieces originally instead of all at once, so the pacing is a bit off. I can also understand with longer videos, because having to go though so much trying to remember will leave out moments that should be explained or expanded upon. But those people who eat through a reaction? They can just stop. Just.... stop.
The pistol that he had is called a plasma pistol. It fires superheated blasts as hot as the sun. Very dangerous for you and the enemy. Extremely powerful it allows infantry to kill armored targets and hardened positions with ease as seen with that defensive multi-laser in the astartes video. *HOWEVER* there is a twist. Fire it too often too fast and the thing will spill plasma on the user killing them or exploding killing everyone around the user due to overheat. They are designed like that to prevent more damage to the weapon and to kill the operator to do it. The weapon has more value than the operator because most weapons are thousand year old relics. They are extremely hard to produce and almost irreplaceable. You can get another operator where the last one came from but not a plasma weapon.
@@kieranh2005 Bronzed yes, but don't forget that they're also slathered in oil to an almost heretical level. ( Comes in handy when traversing the Imperial Palace tho, I'll give them that).
Space marine bolters are actually very large for a regular human . Its easy to forget their actual size because well, the soldiers who use them are giants themselves ^^ .
@@CombatVeteranReacts yeah astartes are fracking huge, and are not just scaled up humans, but they're proportions are different. They are much broader across the upper body than regular people.
@@CombatVeteranReacts smallest one I ever read about was 7 ft. largest I think was 12ft. but he was a special case. think 9 is about average. According to the deathwatch codex in armor they are about 2,200 lbs.
So, to point this out: the psykers (space wizards) in the opening scene were about four times the size of a normal human. An astartes is the same size as them. That bolter is, to them, a hand gun. Now multiply the average size of an uzi by four and you have the actual size of their guns. They are comedically oversized when wielded by normal humans.
Don't see how a bounding retreat would have changed shit. They don't got guns that could have stopped our friendly Space Marine. Even that Multilaser only did surface level damage.
Fellow combat Vet here, mech infantry. Appreciated this video. Evoked the feeling of watching anything combat related with a bunch of my buddies while also being fairly accurate. Keep up the good work!
You can see what boltgun rounds do when they hit. The enemy just tears apart suddenly and violently. It will first penetrate them *AND THEN* explode doing maximum damage. It is like poking a hole in somebody then sticking a grenade in that hole that you made. If a grenade explodes on the outside. You still die and bloody but at least the body is mostly intact or in 1 peice. That happens like IN your body next to your organs. Lets say you will not be intact and in multiple pieces.
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yeah, the Emperor is probably the only being who might even remember that the Geneva Conventions were ever a thing, and he never cared for them much in the first place
@@talltroll7092 The Geneva Conventions never banned stuff like that. You are probably thinking of the Hague Declaration. However, the Geneva Convention was long forgotten even before the Emperor became the Emperor, what with the horrific conflicts in the Dark Age of Technology that led to Old Night. Humanity had far more horrifying weapons well before the Emperor ascended the Golden Throne.
From what ive heard, the boarding-craft that the astartes boarded with creates a pressurised seal in the ship as to not create any severe structural damage. The smoke that permeates from the breach hole kind of shows this.
I think it was a boarding torpedo, too, which goes back to the original idea presented by the creator: Just because it sounds crazy to us, doesn't mean they won't do it.
@@Charistoph The view from the rear is actually from a model. It exists for the game, it's called an Caestus Assault Ram, a specialised high-speed boarding vehicle for more precise boarding actions. Boarding torpedoes are more for the big space engagements since they are usually being used when the enemy defences are distracted by other incoming ordnance.
@@HistoryGameV, the view is from the top of the hull, not the rear. It could be the Assault Ram. The PoV is about right for the pilot's view. It looked like it had some of the boarding meltas like the Dreadclaw. To be fair, I haven't though about the Assault Ram in years.
@@Charistoph Well, I know the model from a friend. It's as if the camera sits right on the edge of rear of the Caestus. BTW the Caestus has a melta cannon to melt through ship armour.
The first movie didn't do the power armor, but the cgi series did. Of course based off the novel. Recommend read for any into military sci-fi. Plus want to put in David Weber's Honor Harrington novels. More naval, but in my opinion a fantastic series.
@@ElliFong found it. Wow, 1988. This was released and I never knew it. Granted, during this period I was falling down Robotech hole ( I know, macross, and other animes, but young me enjoyed it... and still do. Even if I would rank Full Metal Panic [I need to get my hands on the new series release] aBove it.] And Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind at this time. Tenchie Muyo, El Harazard, and so many others would come later. But the fact that this gem (really just started what is a six part ova will take a while) exists and I didn't know ( or didn't pay attention). Take my anime week card away! Anyways thanks for pointing this out. Going to be a while, but hopefully will watch it all through the week.
The slight time delay between the visual explosion and the sound of it at 13:31 is the best thing in animated video history. This ammount of atention to detail baffled me.
@Combat Veteran Reacts Regarding the ambush, did you notice the Space Marine stepping out of the shadows to take out the gunner on the autocannon? The Marines knew he was there and the ones in the column played the decoy. [edit] Don't worry if you missed it, you only _just_ catch a glimpse of him in the few frames of animation it takes to light the room with the autocannon's muzzle flare. :P
6:55 in the 40k universe there are universe filled with any number of factions and people so these people could be anybody however the golden dude is a automaton most likely grafted upon a living organisms "most likely human" and as you know later when they put up that shield to block the bolter fire "which is essentially a 50 cal armor piercing explosive tipped round made of something far beyond steel from a gun that can put a hole the size of a pig waist into a 5inch thick tank laced with heavy duty aluminium alloy" they tapped directly into hell to receive power. Which is suicidal to the max.
5:56 Those boarding torpedoes are special, and are only used when recovery of the boarded ship is desirable. They release a foam as they burrow, sealing the breach they make. Also, they fully expect this tiny team of Astartes to capture a ship with 10s of thousands of people aboard. Its a Cobra-class destroyer, an escort ship with a comparable size to an Imperial Star Destroyer from star wars. 6:58 Astartes fight the enemies of mankind, in all their many flavors. Xenos, Mutants, and heretics. Unless they(the astartes) are heretics, but we don't talk about them. 7:40 They are confident in their armor's ability to resist small arms. Why waste time being methodical when they lack the means to damage you? 12:00 That assumes you have weapons that affect the enemy astartes. They don't. 13:15 Twin linked multilaser. It's an anti-infantry piece. It could have taken the marine down if the gunner had waited for the marine to go further down the hall, but he got impatient. 14:04 Homebrew baddies, influenced by freaky xenos artifacts, not chaos. 14:50 No. The bolters are massive. The marines are so large they make the weapons look small. Size varies from 8~10 feet, but thats without their mega thick armor on. 17:30 Close enough.
@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen Imperial Star Destroyer without any qualification is generally understood to mean Imperial (I or II, more likely to be II) class star destroyer.
The two drones at the beginning are actually designed to fly toward incoming enemy missiles and explode to take out as many as possible, with the twin cannons shooting down any that get by them.
Well done. You won me over the moment you mentioned the book "Starship Troopers." Lots of sci-fi has been doing HALO and HAHO jumps for years and it's cool that someone actually pointed out where it comes from. Thank you
I think the friendly fire in the hallway was more just the artillery crewman panicking because he saw the space marine, and a space marine is horrifying to see if it's your enemy
In the opening they are described as rebels. They MAY be chaos worshippers or they may simply be a population who are revolting against the rule of the Imperium. The question gets a bit more light shed upon it in the next part so I won’t put any spoilers here
Their armor has several advanced methods of scanning for various things. They don't need to "clear" a room. Their auspex will pick up any life signs. Also, violently is how astartes attack...
Loving the commentary. just found this channel today and I’m surprised it hasn’t blown up yet. Been binging your channels archive and overall your breakdowns are genuinely interesting. Hopefully the algorithm recognizes the quality
The dude is probably an Alien. Some Lore channels theorize that they are of Yu'vath origin(Xenos), others say they are Men of Gold (Ancient AIs built by humans during the Dark/Golden Age of Technology, dates back to the 15th millennium to the 25th Millenium, an OverPower human era)
@@CombatVeteranReacts if i had to guess, the first to board were probably the phoenicians or some lost culture before the bronze age collapse, considering they already had sprawling maritime trade
Yep and the Romans abandoned pretty quickly too once they became much more experienced at sea. Initially it was even the playing field with the Carthaginians who were the supreme naval power at the time of the First Punic War. Their sailors were better trained, and more experienced which meant they could out maneuver the Romans at sea. This is important as the usual tactic was to ram the enemy ship. The Corvus allowed the Romans to prevent a ship from getting away and fight the battle on their terms as they were much more experienced with land combat. Once they managed to train enough sailors to fight conventionally at sea they abandoned it.
This series was completed by 1 guy. Kinda increases the amount of awe and respect for the quality. The space marines are a squad of 5. 5 for the entire ship!
The reason Astartes move so quickly in a straight wave of seeming to just kill whatever is in sight, and move on, is because their ausepcs arrays in the suits sense everything. Hidden heat sigs, even the pulse of a hiding enemy. So, yeah, they do waste literally everything, and move on.
There are naval battles in 40k. Though a lot of the ships are so large that it's easier to send a squad to capture it than actually destroy it sometimes.
Naval battles are _very_ common in 40K. The reason to send a squad to board a ship rather than just blast it into space dust is if you want to be 100% certain of eliminating a high-value target. Ships in 40K have escape pods/life boats, and just blasting a heretic's ship to smithereens may not ensure that you actually get the HVT... or that he was even on that ship. Even an Ork Warboss would generally be smart enough to jump ship if he knew that the Imperial Navy was about to ruin his day. Another reason to board a particular ship is if the ship would be worth more as a prize than by destroying it outright. However, very large ships are actually _impractical_ to board. For instance, the _Trisagion_ during the Horus Heresy was deemed too large to board, so the Ultramarines just whittled her down with gunfire.
As a guy who does VFX stuff, this is the kind of the level of polish I want in my story telling. He picked the right angles, the right levels of detail, dude was on his cinematic game when he made this. The scene told the entire story, just using his 3D skillz.
Regarding your questions about the bolters. Firstly, they are NOT rifles, despite people calling them that and wanting to assign a caliber to the rounds. They're actually a smooth-bore gyro-jet weapon. They fire rifled slugs, like you'd fire from a shotgun. In this case, they are explosive rocker-propelled shells, launched from the weapon by a kick-charge which also ignites the internal propellant. Going off the size of the weapon, and the bore of it's muzzle, it would be considered an A gauge gun (2 inch bore), which would technically classify it as a punt gun. Bolters are considered to hold 30 rounds in their magazines, but actually this has been unchanged since the early days of the 40K table-top, where the miniatures showed bolters with much longer magazines than they have on current models, so make of that what you will.
In other scifi universes ships fire from afar. Far range engagents and fighters and all of that. 40k Imperial Navy vesels are *close* range brawlers with *HEAVY* close range broadsides and boarding torpedos with massive armored wedgelike ADAMANTIUM prows for *RAMMING*. The main weapon is the broadsides but also the ship itself. The plan is to Ram anything in front of it then board and blast anything that missed the broadsides.
Ship in 40K also fire from afar. Most weapons are long-range. They like to come close because they can bring more of their guns into effective range, but 40K si can and do fight as distances of tend of thousands of km.
@@tonistanicic8279 well they can be used from that far does not mean they should be used from that far. Lances yes can go very far at hit with devastating accuracy. With macro cannons not really because if you because fire them from too far and they won’t hit. Even with lead, if a ship they are firing at is too far, a small change in speed or direction can throw off the whole barage and will miss the target. The shells are a ballistic weapon or non instant based energy weapon like plasma. Since they are not instant and not 100% accurate the shots can be seen and “dodged” for lack of better words. Power and penetration however is the same no mater the range because there is no drag to slow it down.
GW actually took the team behind Astartes under their wing. After releasing an updated, more lore-accurate cut of the film on their community website (In lower quality I might add). I generally prefer the original (Which is egregious that they made the Astartes channel delete the original series in the first place, hurting the creator and sullying THEIR cheap version of Astartes).
Just to feed the algorithm I'mma try to answer a few questions to the best of my knowledge. First, a bolter is an enormous weapon, even a bog standard bolter pistol is significantly larger than even something like an AR15 variant patterned as a pistol; these will typically contain between 6 and 15 rounds depending on the variant, typically more likely between 6 and 10, good for one short burst. Bolter rifles contain more rounds but I think it's important to note, in the beginning scene every time they fire they fire one round at a target and then select a new target, this is accuracy and efficacy you simply can't expect from either conventional firearms or conventional forces; but this contrasts nicely with the magazine dumps during the psyker fight scenes, which are only for distraction, or at the very best case bruteforcing through their defenses. The enemy forces themselves are a rebel faction, not chaos aligned but under the influence of a group of Alien entities which we meet in episode 5, per the creator these aliens were an original creation despite their similarity to another faction in the existing lore because the creator was simply unaware of them. The troops appear to be bogstandard humans in the form of Naval Armsmen (infantry dedicated to the navy), but their leaders are uplifted humans in possession of alien tech which grants them limited Psyker abilities (the masks/spines). A minor one but the Astartes did breach the hull, but both boarding torpedoes and the boarding craft the Astartes used have mechanisms to temporarily seal the hull behind them, which was always odd to me since you'd think fighting in vacuum while in vacuum capable Power Armor would give the Space Marines a decided advantage. As per the boarding action itself, I think it's safe to assume that the Space Marines were sent to pacify the ship in its entirety. Now in 40k, a ship that size could easily have a crew and passenger list in the tens of thousands, so sending five troops with the expectation that they'd be able to engage everyone aboard is absurd by modern standards, but this is 40k and as you know absurd is kinda the baseline. And to counter this the rebel forces set up ambushes, guard choke points, employ anti-armor weapons, throw every man available at the five Retributors and none of it works. Space Marine sensors and training see through the ambushes, space marine armor tanks through the chokepoints, and clever application of space marine weapons mitigates any threats from the big guns. As to the scene where the Sergeant chases the group straight into a multilaser trap, those men are already dead, they know it, the men on the emplacement know it, they're panicked and broken and nothing they can do will even slow the Retributor Sergeant down. So the gun crew on the emplacement mow them down, because killing twenty or thirty of your own men to give you even a chance to kill just one Astartes is more than a fair trade. This was also something you also saw in the Death Korps of Krieg video, where a squad of Kriegsmen saved a downed Dark Angel from a Traitor Astartes by drawing his attention, until one of them ultimately sacrificed himself by detonating every demolition charge and grenade he could carry directly in the Traitor Marine's face. Life isn't meaningless in 40k, the math is just a lot more blatant. I'm digging your channel btw and am looking forward to Overlord part 2. The same team did another live action SCP short film called Dollhouse, that one's quality as well if you're generating a list. If you're more interested in sticking with 40k, there's a ton of material, ranging from the serious analysis of Luetin09 to the more verbose storytelling of Baldemort to the pants on head goofiness of Bricky, and if you want something more lighthearted and funny you can always have a look at If the Emperor Had a Text to Speech Device, which while non canon breaks the lore down in a hilarious and lovingly well researched way.
The thing that I didn't realize the first few times watching was how he animated the bolt rounds exploding. You got to see it really clearly when the rounds got stuck in the shields. I know that the bold rounds are supposed to explode, calling them bullets is a bit of a stretch, it's just that most animators don't think about that or don't show it properly. Huge props to the creator here!
I really enjoyed the military and tactical commentary you provided. Your insight into the tactics as well as your knowledge of the origins of many of the tropes and situations we're seeing in the episode was very impressive. I'll attempt to answer some of the questions you have. In this case you're very right about the goal of the boarding raid. They are attempting to find and secure a specific item, which you'll see in the next episode. The faction they're fighting are called separatists, meaning they're humans who have chosen to break away from the Imperium and self govern. Very likely they were once an imperial guard or local planetary defense force who chose to defect to another side. This kind of thing happens fairly often, though usually the Astartes wouldn't be used to deal with them unless the force was sizable enough or dangerous enough to warrant it. For example, an entire planet defecting, or a group with access to some dangerous xeno tech or chaos worshipper elements. These guys do have some xeno tech, though it's not very obvious from the first two episodes. Those gold masks being worn by the psyckers are connected to it though.
For 41st millenium the standard bolter calibre is primarily a .75 calibre. At least for Godwyn Mk Vb - the most widely used pattern used by Astartes. Their magazines carry 30 bolts, but i think i saw drum magazine and they can carry way more. By the way bolter calibre is a reference to Harry Harrison and his "The stainless Steel Rat".
@@CombatVeteranReacts just a sci fi author from 60s. He parodied classic sci fi like "starship troopers" and 40k was kinda based on satirical stuff like this
@@МаксимРочев-щ7д Yeah, starting with "Bill, the Galaxy Hero" - parody of Starship Troopers. But actually, who wrote magnificent set of short stories "War with Robots".
I love how they animated the bolter impact, being shot with a thick self propelled redbull can stuffed with explosives and an adamantine sharp end will literally blow your head, both from being shot and reading how complicated the bolter ammo and bolter itself is
In other scifi universes and even our own those kind of boarding actions(Not in a secluded part of the ship but right into the heart where defences are heavy) are too dangerous for anyone but an astartes/ heavily armored genetically modified super soldier.
@@CombatVeteranReacts They can do so much more than that. Take Massacring an entire population (HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS) for turning against the Imperium. They never accept surrender from the FOUL heretics AND MASSACARE THEM ALL.
The bolter rounds are basically about the size of a redbull can and the bolters are appropriately sized to house an entire magazine of them, the bolters aren't small, the space marines are just huge
@@CombatVeteranReacts From my understanding their rounds are a mix between a bullet and a grenade. So it would be like everyone is walking around with a scaled-down Mk19.
This is the best display of proper grammar, punctuation, etc., I've ever seen in a comments section. It's refreshing to read such well laid out comments.
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I think you’re over thinking these regular humans. These are just xenos worshiping traitors, rational thought has pretty much left them.
So you're telling me it's like catholicism?
@@jpractical7864 Nah, you are thinking the official Imperial Cult. :-D
@@jpractical7864 while there is the Inquisition, there’s no saving anyone. Only purge in holy fire, in the name of the God-Emperor
You sound like a proper inquisitor there, emperor protects
@@imperialinquisitormordecai9688 ordo xenos doesn’t get enough credit
The bolters aren't small... It's just that the space marines are so very very big. ;)
yeah, Bolter gun, in the hand of a normal human, are about the size of their torso..
It's like a .998 or .988 caliber it's insane
@@dillscriv22 Bolter rounds for a standard Godwin-Pattern Bolter are 75 cal, though a Heavy Bolter might have .998 rounds.
8-8.5ft without the armor
Bolter rounds are aelf-guided rocket-propelled grenades. They have a mass-reactive charge that causes the round to explode from within the target. The tips are also a diamantine substance to give it significant armor-piercing capabilities.
The best joke about Space Marines; "They don't need cover, they *are* the cover"
Yep. It's what I do with some of my auxiliary units in table top: use space marines as a mobile cover.
Mobile cover WITH WEAPON. Perfect.
First time I ever heard this joke was TotalBiscuit when he was playing WH40K Space Marine's Demo.
I miss that guy.
Isnt that an Impearial joke for when you have guardsmen and space marines in the same army? 🤣
@@fathomless Pretty much. It's really just to encourage the morale of the Guardsmen however as doing so will just decrease their individual odds of survival from 0.01% to 0.005% since they don't know that the Space Marines are going into the literal heart of the enemy.
What I love is that the Astartes do actually take time to consider their actions but they're on an almost instinctive level. When they encounter the ambush gunners the first marine runs past, the second determines the caliber by sound and angles his shoulder plate to deflect it as he passes and the third marine holds position until the fourth can flank the gunners and take them out. The marine in the corridor cross section also shows awareness by sound as he hears the lone suicide bomber running up behind him, or more precisely he hears the krak charge that he was holding (most people miss it and assume it to be a helmet that the rebel drops, it's more akin to a limpet mine) before smoothly knifing him. The marine that faces the multi-laser does this as well, he understands he has reasonable protection against it's fire (another reason why the rebel infantry were just running away, they know that their lasguns can't do enough damage to the space marine's power armor to down him before he kills them all so they were simply running for their lives) but realizes that his bolter will not penerate the weapon's armor plate so he ducks back into cover as his armor starts to take minor damage, pops a flash grenade and then takes it out with a precise application of a plasma weapon. That's the kind of tactical awareness you rarely see in any media that protrays the marines, and Astartes gets it perfectly.
Very well said, it showcases beautifully how well ingrained the Codex Astartes is in Marines, they don't flinch, they know what their Battle Brothers are doing and apply without any hesitation for putting their own life at risk.
Furthermore, it is not just flash grenade, but smoke grenade. In that situation smoke makes laserbeam useless. Brilliant tactic
Yeah, this video is one of the few that actually shows not only super human strenght but also working armor and their inhuman instincts.
No fear, no hesitation, no mistakes.
Massively well done and exciting boarding action
Adeptes Astartes: Eh, it's Tuesday.
40k is also just weird, tactically. It's a warfare theater where shielding and armor has advanced much much faster than munitions and ranged weapons, but because those defensive measures are so good against ranged attacks, melee becomes not only viable but optimal. A dude with a hatchet and a jet pack is a greater threat to an aircraft than a SAM missile is. You kinda gotta twist your head around a little bit to actually strategize for 40k
"Drive me closer! I want to hit them with my sword!"
Also for astartes they have a greater advantage in melee than they have in ranged fight. So it makes sense to get to a situation where you ar much better than the opponent, sometimes because you are very good and sometimes because they are very bad but the result is the same.
an ork with a choppa and a rocket strapped to their back is an effective anti-air unit
@@Gruber122 *WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGH*
Reminds me of Dune.
To help: Bolters aren't small. Astartes are just friggin huge. Look at the opening hallway shot in episode 1 where some navy officers squeeze past them in a hallway. Astartes are huge. And so are bolters.
Also, bolters have around 30 varieties, but the most common variant is a 75cal, so, big, but not ridiculously huge. But they also have explosives inside for even greater effect.
Fun lore facts to consider. 👍
Afaik bolters don't even shoot bullets, the ammo is actually rocket-propelled grenades
@@PyrusFlameborn Basically M32 Grenade Launchers.
@@PyrusFlameborn Sort of both. The fire from a casing like a regular bullet, and the projectiles themselves are rocket-assisted. They also explode after impact, detonating inside the target.
@@thomasp506 it´s more like gyrojets with explosive payload, yeah
@@thomasp506 Depends on the version. Originally (from what I've been told, came in 3rd Ed.) Boltguns AKA Bolters were basically rapid fire rocket launchers, using no cases at all, simply firing spin stabilized rockets which detonate a fraction of a second after piercing the target. But a lot of artworks were created with shell casings being launched out of Bolters like normal guns, seems they tweaked the Lore slightly so there were versions that used casings. And with their degrading understanding of technology, I can totally see versions being made that used casings for greater initial launching speed...
TL;DR Massive lore dump that explains Combat Veteran Reacts' questions.
1. The drones escorting the boarding craft are intercepting incoming missiles, the boarding craft has armor too thick to care about a little space dust. 2. The faction the Astartes are fighting is group of secessionists, not necessarily Chaos worshippers. The dude in the mask is a Psyker and the mask is a device called a psychic hood with works to stabilize the psyker's powers and helps to prevent the psyker from losing control of his abilities and exploding (or worse). 3. Yep, the Astartes are used in raids or QRF. An Astartes company (100 marines) can mobilize very quickly and come to the defense of high level assets within days whereas the slow, grinding wheels of the Imperial Guard which is akin regular army. It could take the Imperial Guard many years if not a decade to mobilize a regiment, but take and hold missions is what the Guard does best. 4. To call a Bolter a pistol. Yes, it's small in the hands of an Astartes but it's a CQB. Imagine an M4 being chambered in 20mm grenades. The bulk of the weapon is nearly all barrel and chamber.
rocket propelled APHE shells. Its a one-hand-able rocket select-firable high RPM rocket pistol. And it's only one variant of the base weapon concept.
to be fair the guys retreating down the hallway were probably just fleeing in a blind panic after getting stomped so hard and the guy on multilaser either didn't care about his buddy's or panicked as well
Panic is a real threat on every battlefield
My assumption always was the gunner panicked the second he saw the Astartes and fired early, even without his own troopers in the way if he'd held fire a few more seconds the marine would be half way up the corridor with no cover
@@maddlarkin Yeh if he had waited even a few seconds then he probably would've killed a few cause that space marines armor was slowly wearing down.
Just adding to the comments on the MultiLas part.... there's no delaying an Astartes. These renegades were doing absolutely nothing to the Astartes that was chasing them. If they'd done a bounding retreat (apologies if that's not what you called it, CVR. I'm forgetful), the only slowing done would be him having to step over corpses.
I haven't gotten further along, but they're essentially WW1 infantry against a modern tank. As demonstrated as the MultiLas doing more damage than everything else the infantry threw at them.
that makes sense since they are just bunch of regular guardsmans
One funny thing, in the 40k universe it's often the preferred tactic of Space Marines to board an enemy vessel even if the intent is simply to place charges on the reactor and blow the ship up. Between the layered Void Shields and the heavy armor of the ships in 40k, it would often result in drawn out slugging matches when ships attempt to destroy each other through bombardment. Astartes can take down an enemy's Void Shields using their shipboard guns, then slip boarding torpedoes in before the shields recharge, and affect much more damage from within than they could do by just continually blasting away at the ship until the shields come back up. It can often take hours upon hours of continual fire to take down the shields, leaving bare minutes for actual damage to be done before they pop back up, so getting a few squads of armored super soldiers aboard can bring the fight to the enemy directly and start doing damage to the more vulnerable internal systems much more effectively.
The only real advantage a Space Marine ship has over a normal Navy ship is the angry boys inside it, so they use them.
To be fair, most Astartes ships are designed for transport and support of the Space Marines, and are not dedicated void warships. In our parlance, closer to Assault Ships than Warships. The Navy of the Imperium is much better suited to acting like actual warships. It would be little different today if we were looking at an assault ship vs an aegis cruiser, they would both be looking at how to handle the situation with the resources on hand. And the Marines in this video are impressive resources in their own right.
Void Shields can't stop torpedoes or any other large space going object like an asteroid.
@@jorgejustin461 depends on what part of the lore you read.
@@angrydragonslayer Depends on which part of the "fanfiction" you read. Games workshop is notorious for approving material that directly contradicts their previously established canonical lore. Their quality control on that end is pretty shit and mildly annoying... Granted what do they really care? They just want to sell you figurines, video games, and books. Who cares if any of it is actually consistent?
a lot of the chapters also consider it more honourable to board and face your enemy. I forget which book but I've heard (well read I mean) one say there is no honour in void war.
"Just because something is risky or insane doesn't mean it won't happen in this (Warhammer 40k) Universe". That's like the greatest understatement ever made.
Indeed, in a setting where galaxy devouring abominations are just part of daily life...
"oh hey, demons are Poppin up, what do??"
"Nuke them?"
"Nah, let's just send in a pile of squishy men to fight them in melee, that'll work."
@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 To be fair, I'm not sure nukes work against Daemons...
@@CallanElliott they should, considering that regular bolters and melta guns kill them pretty decently
@@ivanivanovitchivanovsky7123 It's up in the air, to be honest. GW is inconsistent about what can and can't kill a Daemon, and how much said killing will stick. So I really don't know. Then again, the resilience of some Daemons means that it won't work full stop.
"They don't seem to like clearing rooms deliberately."
As the Codex Astartes clearly states: Fast is smooth, smooth is fast.
"Slow is smooth, smooth is fast.", no?
@@pestopoliz Right over your head
@@lucascurtner2953 don't just assume you're smarter than everyone else.
"Knowledge is power, hide it well."
@@pestopoliz this is sooooo deep
Codex astartes is for guilliam lovers .... suffer not the unclean to live
Uphold the honor of the emperor,abhor the witch, destroy the witch, accept any challange no matter the odds.. true edicts of the faithful.. we are his sword ... and ill be exicuted for saying this but .. we outnumber all of you
Well the 2 dudes are psyckers, basically jedis on steroids and the astartes chapter that is doing the boarding action actually does anti psycker tactics to overcome them. Its one of their specialities
Interesting. Makes sense there would be a field dedicated to anti psyker tactics
@@CombatVeteranReacts basically why they got into melee is because to over come such powerfull psyckers you need to tire them our or have powerfull enough weapons as to penetrate their barrier/shield. Which the astartes lacked. And as you see once they pass the barrier they can easily kill them/hurt them. Also they were linked so if one died the other was momentarly frozen
@@CombatVeteranReacts yeah usually anti-psyker combat is handled by the inquisition as they have specialized gear to deal with psykers (either weapons that hurt them or dampen/outright disable their powers) but the Astartes here work closely with the inquisition. Plus boarding a ship and dealing with a few companies of enemies would require about double or triple that of regular humans, which is most likely why the Astartes are doing it
@@DeadWayfes I dunno if it was so much them being linked as the psychic backlash caused by the death of the first while he was actively utilizing his power.
And the psykers in this video are actually very weak as a mid powered psyker is more on the level of a planetary threat, an average human psyker would have probably just wiped the floor with the space marines if not just exploding their cruiser from the get go
In 40k Boarding is not such a precision strike like looking for an object or person(in this case it is). But rather a way to deliver troops to another ship and fight a pitch land battle in space. Remember that most of these ships are not CQC. These ships are HUGE, like the size of city blocks type big. The goal is not to kill 1 thing or take 1 thing like how special forces operate. The goal is to *massacre* and *KILL* anyone and everyone Defending the enemy ship and to either take control of it or to blow it up. Think of it as a Hammer rather than a scalpel. Doing as much damage as those broadsides and bombs you were talking about. However the case that you are being shown in Astartes is that specific scalpel task
Man, void combat is no joke.
"R6 needs people who can be both the Hammer, and the Scalpel" ;P
A hammer to wage war. A war hammer, if you will
Yeah, even the ship where those space marines are in start of this video, Cobra class destroyer, which is one of the smallest escort ships of Imperial Navy, is about 900 metres long and has crew of tens of thousands. I don't remember if servitors are counted to that number.
Actually, the goal of most boarding actions in 40K is to take control of the enemy's engines or plasma reactor and hit the big red button.
13:20 The gunner was likely so terrified when he saw the space marine that all thought of tactics and preserving friendly life left his mind and he just squeezed the trigger.
Very possible
The cynical side of things is that the death of one marine is tactically worth much more than the soldiers. The value of one marine is equal to a company of normal soldiers if not more. While friendly fire happened, I'm sure what was being conveyed was that the desperation of killing a single marine meant that much more than all of their lives.
The space marines have a nickname the angels of death and the enemy of the imperium know it all too well
@@bryal7811 the tactical thing to do would be to wait until the Astarte was halfway down the hallway so he couldn't duck out of the way like he does.
@@scotcheggable stress. The gunners were frantic.
11:50 They had an equivalent of running away from a tank with aim hack while having nerf guns, so staying back for any amount of time would just mean they'd be picked off a few seconds faster than their buddies.
Yea, I've since realized astartes are more like MOUT versions of tanks
I just wanted to point out that the technique of using a plank to hook on to an enemy ship in order to board was actually a Roman thing, not Greek. The Greeks would try to brush past the other ship and shear off their oars with the prow of their ship. The Roman boarding plank (called a Corvus, if I remember) was developed during one of the Punic wars (I don't remember which) to make up for the fact that the Romans weren't as comfortable with naval combat as the Carthaginians, and would much prefer to fight a land battle.
And that's my pedantic nitpick done for the day.
You are right. Thanks for letting me know!
An interesting side note to this, is that in the Horus Heresy novels (10,000 yrs before the events of 40k) the Primarch Angron of the World Eaters legion, used a massively scaled up version of this boarding tactics. His flagship vessel had an array of large harpoons that he would fire into and hook onto target ships. The ropes of the harpoons (if you could call them ropes) where actually hollow that would allow his troops to use to move through and onto the target vessel. Also if I'm not mistaken, the planet and culture that Angron grew up in was highly influenced by Roman and Greek history. I may be wrong with that last part, but the point is, the writers definitely do their homework (for the most part).
@@sharks3010 I know the 300 worlds of Ultramar followed an enlightened Romanesque society modelled on progressiveness, learning and cultural prosperity but I wouldn’t have likened Angrons world to have been Roman per-sè. The closest parallel really would have been there fascination with brutal colosseum-based entertainment but, it’s kind of difficult to put a finger on exactly which culture they resembled the most since a big thing with them was slavery and barbarism which, almost every human culture has played a part in throughout history.
The corvus wasn't a plank with a hook, it's a damn spike. Furthermore, although I cannot recall if the Greeks did it originally but roman ships also used their ship as a ram. The frontt of a ship has basically a spike. If the ship crashes in to another perpendicularly, it could very well tore the ship in half, though I recall that this really isn't a good idea because the ship can get stuck
@@SpartanMikey Good point. After doing a bit more reading on Angrons 'origin story', it does seem that slavery and fighting pits are the only major things that he and his homeworld have in common with the Romans. So I definitely stand corrected on that. I've only been reading/listening to the HH novels for the past couple of years. I've made my way through the lions share of Space Wolves and Night Lords books as well as the first half dozen HH books in order. So lately I've gotten a taste for World Eaters (not enough to know what I am talking about yet though) and Eisenhorn. As great as it is having so much to choose from, I think it's going to take me a few decades to get through it all. Plus that doesn't even include the content in the codexes. Apart from some Ork stuff here and there I haven't even got onto any of the xenos material. Thanks for the update though mate, I've definitely got a better picture of Angron and his planet in my minds eye now.
Imagine haveing a gun the size of a Coffee machine fireng APHE shells the size of a Redbull can With a Rocket engine at the back that explodes when its Mass increases.
thats a heavy bolter. regular bolt shells are just 12 gauge shotgun shells
@@F14thunderhawk They're the same size as a 12-guage shell but a Bolt-gun round is still self-propelled mass-reactive explosive rounds. One of the books says they have a distinctive tripple-bang "bangbang-bang" sound: First is the boltgun firing, the second is the rocket igniting shortly afterwards, the third delayed bang is the round exploding after penetrating *something*
@@NilMortifey This.
@@F14thunderhawk thats just blatantly wrong
Interestingly. In the 30k books it is written that the bolter explodes humans into minced meat, and it seems the bolter was made with humans specifically in mind. However in the 40k books, the humans are not good enough triggers. So most of the time the bolter shot just passes through. It still leaves a small explosion like impact wave and a basketball sized hole, both which I don't think many survives.
Regarding the multilaser at ~12:30 “buzzsawing” their own troops and life having no meaningful value - this is instead a very calculated value: luring in a single space marine for the mere cost of a score of normal humans is a fantastic trade. If you think that’s callous, just remember that was exactly the situation that MAC V SOG faced in Vietnam when they called in Arc Light strikes on their location (my father was on the receiving end of one, and set off metal detectors for the rest of his life. He thought it was worth the risk (and given his shadow box compared to mine, he was right).
Dropping a B52 strike on your position requires total resolve. mad respect to your old man
Still actually it'll be more efficient to lure the marine deeper into the hallway so it can't return to cover quickly. It's just a plot device to highlight chaos brutality, but not a sound tactical choice.
@@firmanimadI think there was a plan to lure him in but at that point the traitors were in a full route and no longer able to think tactically and the gunner was probably panicking a bit as well not expecting to see the marines already there and all is buddy’s running for there lives so he went full panic mode and fired
I was in the marines and that's how our room clearing always went.
Enter room, kill everything in said room, proceed to next room.
Also you need to realize that the space marines are on average 8 - 9+ feet tall so the magazines for their bolters are way bigger than they look.
That lines up with most of the marines I know, yea hahahaha. Im kidding
Also, Space Marine power armour is like clomping around, wearing an Abrams with the Bolter being more like 40mm Grenade launcher than an assault rifle, firing rocket propelled armour piercing rounds, with an impact fused explosive charge that detonates inside the target. And this is their standard weapon, we don't even get into the exotic stuff like Metas (Thermal blast weapon) and Grav-Guns (Amplifies the force of gravity acting on a target, to crush it)
@@weldonwin 19mm rocket propelled smart grenades, or 25mm for heavy bolters.
@@weldonwin Are you sure a bolter round is equivalent to a 40mm grenade? To me it looks more 20mm, though I could be wrong.
@@omarabe26 Maybe not 40mm calibre, but the absolutely brutal effect it has on the target is probably the same since the bolt round detonates inside the target
I want to put out the idea that while the traitors did start out using tactically sound strategies at the start, once they realized that they were fighting Astartes and that none of their weapons would even scratch the armor, they were pretty much just retreating en mass. I would say that was around the point they wheeled out the turret and people were rushing down the hallway all together without bothering to provide cover fire.
For their part, I would point out the Astartes almost never broke pace. They recognized that most of the incoming fire wasn’t a threat. They were simply killing them all along the way, because they were traitors and deserved to die.
15:14 Please note a space marine is 8 ft tall, a Standard Bolter for SM is easily larger than any modern light machine gun. It is actually a Fully Automatic RPG. Even when braced by the SM in that scene, he had trouble with the recoil at max RPM. There are variable ammo types however but standard shells are rocket powered and detonate while inside a target and use shrapnel to cause damage.
You underestimate the importance of Melee in the 40k universe. In modern day and most other scifi universes you almost never see melee combat as an actual plan A B C D ect strategy. In 40k It is the plan A and or plan B. Melee is just as important as range. Think of Boarding as ships "Melee" each other.
Interesting tactical insight. Good to know for the next half
@@CombatVeteranReacts The general Idea with the melee in warhammer 40k absolutly for people like the space marines. if you face 100 people and 100 people are shooting at you ...one or ten might hit something important as its still armor and all armor has its weakpoints.
In melee they are stronger and faster than the average enemy. so if you are in their lines running and crushing their friends they cant get a clear shot or even get time to aim their gun and shoot.
So when your that close and they cant shoot or aim they can kill them all or distract them enough while their friends shoot their remaining ones.
and if they are facing orks who loves fighting in close range its good to be able to defend yourself and kill them with your sharp stick instead of them killing you with their sharp stick. cause when it is orks or Tyranids they will out number you so its only a question of when they will reach melee.
And also the bolters are kind of rocket launchers...but yes it is quite questionable how they fit so many rounds but each of those rounds is a small rocket thats why they look the way they do and thats why they people hit are blown up.
@@CombatVeteranReacts bolter rounds are exaggerated in seize and also displayed in a lot of media wrong. Bolter rounds are .75 caliber and for heavy bolters 1.00 . The bolt gun itself is a massive gun that itself is pretty chunky looking as well as the magazine
Commisar: "Tank Driver! Bring us closer to the enemy, I want to hit them with my sword!"
Tank Driver:
In our modern world, there is a fine balance between armor protection and ranged weaponry, with ranged weaponry having the undisputed edge over armor.
Certainly the gap has closed in recent years, but still pretty much long range guns are just far more effective.
The same principle applies in 40K, but the superiority of ranged firepower over armor is not as straightforward.
Space Marine power armor is more or less effective against most 40K guns, except anti-armor weapons or very dedicated anti-power armor weapons.
In this instance, even the Auto-cannon used in the ambush, which would be close to a 20mm real life round, would not be considered appropriate anti-power armor weapon, as it lacks sufficient penetrating power to overcome the advanced layered alloy used on Astartes power armor.
For all intents and purposes, Space Marines are walking tanks and can more or less move with impunity in almost any combat scenario without mayor deterrent and even then they are fast enough, strong enough, smart enough and so excessively trained, that very few enemies can manage to slow them down, much less stop them.
Because of this and other factors, it would be better to qualify Space Marines as Medieval Knights. They can and will use their superior strength and powerful armor, not to mention devastating speed to close in with the enemy and devastate them in close combat, where very few enemies are their peers and Space Marines are effectively indefatigable, so their killing sprees usually end when their targets are killed, not because they slow down.
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The man who made this actually got officially licensed by GW recently.
Good. His work is awesome!
Syama Pedersen
The Codex Astartes definitely DOES support this action!
The problem there is that they'll control what he'll make in the future :(
@@fernandoramirez1605 Hopefully they're smart enough to give him creative freedom. Work on this level is _much_ more valuable than they'll get by crippling him. Unfortunately the version they put on their 'community site' is pretty well butchered.
"If you wish to be a space marine but know you'd be a guardsman".. Nah, my man.. I'd be dead...
So are guardsmen.
Dead, that is.
I'm the guy who'd die in basic training before even getting to handle a weapon xDDD
Guardsman are the top tier soldiers of there planet. Only elite PDF get recruited. In 40k we would be manufactorum workers or basically slaves...
@@Ra.vanZon What do you mean slaves.. It's an honor to work for the glory of god emperor.. not for money..
Then you'll be a good guardsman.
The thing about a bounding retreat in this instance (the Guardsmen fleeing down the hall) is that their weapons are utterly ineffective against a target like a Space Marine. They will not seek cover against that weapon, because it's not a legitimate threat to them. I understand that, obviously, my opinion isn't as qualified as yours given that this is a combat envionment, but in the Warhammer universe, facing (or even seeing) an Astartes in action, be he friend or foe, instills what is called "Transhuman dread"; the idea of "Oh my god what in the hell I can't fight that", which is why they didn't even attempt to execute something like that. At least, that's how I see it.
Doesnt some books describe a human seeing an astarte in action and the only thought he can process before getting brutally murdered is "How is that thing moving so fast"
@@narcisoferreira9976 Not that I've read, but it wouldn't surprise me.
eh that twinlinked multilas did a number on that marines armor. if you look at the armor right when he gets in cover you will see it clowing from its hits and there are meltingmarks that are visible for the rest of the series on jis armor damage would have been severe if not lethal if he was deeper in that corridor..
It's a similar sensation to encountering Vader at the end of Fallen Order, when you realize he doesn't have a health bar.
@@BLACKFLAME4941 Oh, for sure. But there was only the one multilaser, and it wasn't down there; those guardsmen couldn't do anything to the Astartes.
14:28 - notice that this is also the first time we see the Astartes employ full-auto against opponents. They set to full-auto, braced their guns to help with recoil, and pulled the trigger. And it wasn't enough
That is a really nice touch. A testiment to the animator
@@CombatVeteranReacts He showed the squad only ever used one round per each normal human cultist. That's all it took for every Marine and it was as efficient as they could get. Each bolter round hit its target until they got the Psykers and they had to go full auto. Saved one round from the Overcharged Lazpistol to break the Psyker Barrier since one round was all they needed.
Some not-so-obvious details about the boarding:
- The boarding craft used by Astartes deploy a special sealant upon penetration of any enemy ship. This prevents Marines and other possibly important elements from being sucked out into the vacuum of space.
- These guardsmen are renegades which likely were under the control of Xenos or Chaos. The two imposing figures at the end were likely Psykers. They have that inherent psychic shield and have to concentrate on applying their other abilities, as you saw. Distract and flank was the way to go, given their lack of firepower (a strange thing to say, given these are Space Marines).
I can't say much else without spoiling, but I think your hunch about this being a raid is quite accurate.
The sucked out to void is actually kind of myth created by Hollywood. One astronaut reacting to scifi movies depunked it. It's not that big of treat as movies try to convey...
They are heretics following the Tau communist blue berries. That Tau psyker is a powerful xeno psionic and these humans are likely subverted by the Tau Empire.
@@ImpKnt80 There are no Tau psykers. Tau have no presence in the warp and as a species, absolutely no idea it even exists. The maker of the movie, Pedersen, confirmed this was his own new alien race, and the psykers were basically a sort of high priest of the cult they had build around them, since they don't really have bodies.
well they were a single tactical squad. To have actual heavy weapons you would need a devastator squad.
@@HistoryGameV "Tau have no presence in the warp and as a species, absolutely no idea it even exists."
They do, in fact, have small souls in the warp, just not nearly as big and vulnerable as humans. They also do know that it exists, and while they cannot travel through it for FTL travel, they do utilize the warp for it. They are unaware tht chaos exists, but I thought that was about to change last I checked, because of the deathguard or something.
from Lexicanum : "The Boltgun, also commonly referred to as the Bolter, is the standard weapon of the Adeptus Astartes and Adepta Sororitas. A .75 caliber weapon, the Boltgun fires a self-propelled explosive 'bolt' which explodes with devastating effect once it has penetrated its target, effectively blowing it apart from the inside. Finely hand-crafted by Space Marine Forges or the Adeptus Mechanicus, Boltguns are heavy, sturdy weapons with a powerful recoil normal humans would find difficult to handle."
best description I have ever heard of a boltgun: (astartes sized) hand held grenade launchers with a full auto setting. :D
Regular humans will struggle even be able to shoot it with a firing position. So yeah its really heavy
@@swatcccp4673 Bolters and moreso bolt pistols, are 'fairly' common amongst Guard command units (platoon commanders and higher as I recall) though I would imagine that while the caliber remains the same, either the wielder has some kind of augmetics to absorb recoil or the weapon itself has a recoil suspensor.
@@richburn2521 command units of the guard, the tempestus scion and the commisars all have minor augmentations to improve combat effectiveness, the tempestus scion being the most augmented of these (they're the equivalent to tier one units in warhammer 40K, but way more intensively, they're chosen in their early years of life and start their training as early as 6 years of age, which effectively makes them unstoppable, virtually emotionless killing machines.
If you look at the models themselves, the weapons tend to be smaller, even if they have the same classification. Also, unless I'm mistaken, guard carries "bolt pistols" astartes usually carry "heavy bolt pistols" if at all
The guy who animated this actually got hired on by the games workshop people afterwards so that’s a huge plus for him.
Not a huge plus at all. His work will lose all soul under GW
@nemis010 GW did say that they wanted to give him as much artistic freedom as they could within reason. they just want him on their pay roll. "poacher turned gamekeeper" I think is the technical term. they stated they dont wanna stifle his creativity, they just want him as one of their animators.
@BenjaminTheRogue I get that, I am not expecting a great deal from GW on this but it would be nice if they followed through withtheir promise instead of shittin on the guy
@BenjaminTheRogue I never said it would be terrible if they actually let the guy do his thing did I? yeah, would be lovely, just gotta sit here with our fingers crossed and hope
@BenjaminTheRogue I am just being pessimistic. it would be great if they did honour their word, we just gotta keep our fingers crossed and hope they do.
"Flanking works on everybody" I love that line
You have to remember that the "pistol" is about half of your height, they are huge. Also an Astartes in their power armor is probably about 7 and a half feet tall excluding backpack.
I laughed about what he said about the people retreating down the hallway because they know they can basically do nothing to these monstrous machines of war and are just trying to get away before they're turned to mulch
Yea, I'm realizing Astartes are more like tanks
@@CombatVeteranReacts yeah at first glance they kinda just look like beefy guys like the Brute Chieftains in Halo, tough but killable.
And then you take a look at the mountain of lore and they range from beefy Bois to "haha grenades and heavy weapons fire tickle me".
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yeah just look at the things that actually hurt them:
A heavy sniper with heavy tank-killer rounds, an emplaced turret with upgraded firepower that only did damage from continual hits, and the enemy's own heavy units the Psykers with their shielding. Definitely more like mobile tanks than infantry.
@@CombatVeteranReacts One of the xenos races in 40k, the Tau Empire, actually does classify the Astartes as a type of heavily armored tank. I think you'd like them, both in and out of combat; the first time one of their commanders encounters a Dreadnought, for example, he realizes after talking to it once it's disabled that the Astartes inside of it is older than his entire civilization. Not older than him, or his family; the Space Marine is older than the entire Tau Empire.
@@lasersquid112 what book or media is that in? Where the tau talks to a dreadnaught?
As others have said the enemies on the ship are technically the creator's OCs in the universe, but they share a lot in common with a group called the Yu'Vath
A type of Xenos that are warp based, have mind controll powers, use puppet bodies and look like their real bodies are made out of bone. They got duped by the Imperium during the Angevin Crusade. If my memory, without bothering to look it up, serves me right.
yeah they also have control orb things like in the last episode of this
Let's not kid here, they are yuvaath but the creator didn't fancy getting nuked by GW and so they are "different".
@@BartimaeusAurelius "Officially" he was not aware of the Yu'Vath when he created the alien/demon things, but yeah, smells like someone tried to avoid a lawsuit xD
I’m pretty fuckin nerdy, know my WH40k lore, have little-no life and I’ve never heard of the Yu’Vath in more than *passing mention* or just named.
Is dominik’s synopsis the sum of the lore available? So like Enslavers or Psyco... warp skeeters?
I was a young Infantry private when I first saw a 40k poster, Blood Angels, and I was hooked.
Same here, after boot camp I was introduced to the Grey Knights of the Imperium
I wasn't in the military but I picked up a white dwarf when I was just a kid with some blood angels in it and I've been hooked ever since
Main thing I love about this animation is that its one of the few that's not only shown Space Marines "to scale" but the ONLY ONE that shows Space Marines as the super-agile, strong ab-humans they are. All other animations show them as slow one-man-tanks but sure, they're armoured like a tank but it doesn't make them slow, they're faster than standard humans even wearing that armour.
I drew three scenes from this masterpiece in charcoal/graphite mix. Those scenes are so hard to replicate it took me 36 hours for 3 total scenes to be drawn. Literally the best Warhammer animation out there.
Can we see it? I relly love that kind of stuff
Suggestion: Please put all your War Hammer 40K reactions videos in a playlist. Even casual War Hammer fan community can find you easily.
Great reactions! May your channel grow!.
Great idea!
@@CombatVeteranReacts !2:00 So how does a bounding retreat work when you have a tank bearing down on your squad? Do you fire your M4 at it in the hope that it uses it's Co-ax on you and doesn't fire it's main weapon into the retreating elements?
@@skipmage bounding against a tank? nah I'm pretty sure Every one would just haul ass as fast as they could in order to not get blown and or shot to shit, either try to break line of sight or get to cover
Warhammer, it’s one word
Seems your right
There's basically a cost vs. reward going in the hallway scene:
If they could have taken down one or two Astartes with that, then the cost of mowing down their allies would have been "worth it" (if you disregard the respect for life).
Then there's also this thing called "Transhuman Dread" going on in Warhammer. It boils down to a psychological shock through raw fear. Thinking straight probably wasn't there anymore.
Excerpt from the book "Age of Darkness":
"Transhuman dread. Aximand had heard iterators talk of the condition. He’d heard descriptions of it from regular Army officers too. The sight of an Adeptus Astartes was one thing: taller and broader than a man could ever be, armoured like a demigod. The singularity of purpose was self-evident. An Adeptus Astartes was designed to fight and kill anything that didn’t annihilate it first. If you saw an Adeptus Astartes, you knew you were in trouble. The appearance alone cowed you with fear.
But to see one move. Apparently that was the real thing. Nothing human-shaped should be so fast, so lithe, so powerful, especially not anything in excess of two metres tall and carrying more armour than four normal men could lift. The sight of an Adeptus Astartes was one thing, but the moving fact of one was quite another. The psychologists called it transhuman dread. It froze a man, stuck him to the ground, caused his mind to lock up, made him lose control of bladder and bowel. Something huge and warlike gave pause: something huge and warlike and moving with the speed of a striking snake, that was when you knew that gods moved amongst men, and that there existed a scale of strength and speed beyond anything mortal, and that you were about to die and, if you were really lucking, there might be just enough time to piss yourself first."
And it has to be said here, that Aximand was a Space Marine Captain, who was part of the Elite who were kind of like a council to the Primarch Horus of the Lunar Wolves/Sons of Horus. Even this Elite Space Marine Captain experienced it to some degree, which is kinda crazy considering the psychoi-ndoctrination and all the genetical enhancements they go through.
Robert heinlein's starship troopers is a highly recommended read. It is almost entirely different than the satirical movie that came out in the late '90s. It's really not an action book in it There is relatively little fighting, But a solid read-through will show why it was such a controversial book during the time period It was written and why it would probably be considered one today..... But it is an excellent novel in my opinion.
It is excellent. Heinlein belongs in the pantheon of golden age sci fi writers for sure
If I remember correctly, Starship Troopers was on the US Marine Corps' recommended reading lists.
Starship Troopers and Dorsai are basically the first books on my Infantryman's reading list.
ever since i learned Heinlein was swinging buddies with Hubbard and practiced sex magic i haven't been able to look at his works the same way
@@Annatar3019 Huh, hadn't heard of that myself but it doesn't really change the contents of the novel. Most all these people in high places are luciferian, occult , mason types. Also it's kind of funny that your name is one of Saurons.🤣
The autocannon sniper, if you watch it again, an Astartes is moving through the darkness parallel to the main column as an outrider of sorts and he deals with the sniper quickly.
If anyone wants to see something similar, check out the vid of me playing a Night Lord in Eternal Crusade. It is rather entertaining, at least it was to me! Going to miss that game, it was a blast to play a few years back...
Also I think the sphere entities are the Yu Vath, a lesser known Xenos or possibly Chaotic entity, since they like to use warp powers.
@Combat Veteran Reacts The 2 big guys are formally humans that have head removed and had that head and spine implanted onto the body to allow for the consciousness of a dead Xenos race the Yu'Vath. They are using the humans around the ship as fodder to protect themselves and what is in the door behind them
About the whole, “bounding retreat” thing before/during the multilaser. That would work if your guns were actually capable of harming the thing you’re shooting at. Their weapons, as demonstrated multiple times, weren’t even capable of making an Astartes flinch, let alone make them hesitate or take cover.
Poor bastards were running for their lives while hoping the poor guy behind them got shot before they did because that was all they could do.
And the guy on the multilaser cut down his own fellow soldiers because he had to take the chance to try and take down the Space Marine before the Marine saw him.
Mostly, I think you just aren’t quite comprehending the kind of threat even a single Astartes is and simply default to thinking of tactics that would be effective against human soldiers and not the immortal and nigh unstoppable being that is an Adeptus Astartes
Yeah. It's more akin to fighting a tank than an enemy soldier, since you need specialized anti-armor weapons to do any damage. A Multi-laser like that isn't a very good weapon, but it at least _can_ inflict damage if it gets a lucky hit. Standard Lasguns are basically useless on Astartes.
To be fair, the autocannon and rocket launcher, provided they hit, could bring down an Astartes.
while true, the only thing that made a dent was that 50.cal ( or whatever caliber that lone gunner ambushed them with ) to the first Astartes's helmet, but even then he would have to drill that same spot with laser like precision to get through.. but we all know that Astartes would be on your ass well before then lol
@@LiquidRasta nah, that was the Multi-Laser. The oversized sniper pinged off one of their shoulder plates.
@@ulsedovthur5741 the multilaser don't equate either, if that was the case his entire power armor would have dents and scorch marks like the 1 on his helmet. That 2nd hallway trap didn't even phase his armor.
I believe there’s something in the lore that mentions the Boltors shoot something similar to what we would call .75 caliber rounds. It’s definitely sci-fi, but they’re pretty much micro rockets.
@LOAN NGUYEN Keep in mind that it's not really comparable to .50 BMG despite being the same size. The propellant in a .50 BMG is detonated instantly at the start, propelling the round. The actual bullet itself is a lot smaller than the casing, and is just mass with a proportionally small HE payload, or no HE at all. When a bolter round is fired, an initial charge propels it out of the barrel, after which the rocket booster ignites and propels it further. While the recoil is probably quite severe, it's not nearly as bad as firing a .50 BMG, as most of the energy comes from the rocket. The mass of the bullet itself is a lot more than a .50 BMG though, given that it's pretty much the size of the case and contains a very hefty HE charge and a penetrator.
@LOAN NGUYEN A boltpistol has as much energy as a 105mm howitzer? Not even close. Not sure if you're talking about energy of impact or recoil, but neither is close. A 105mm howitzer fired from your hands would rip your shoulder off and launch the gun 10 meters behind you. As for energy of impact, a single 105mm round can destroy a house.
The recoil from a bolter would not be unreasonable. The only recoil is from the initial charge. Friendly reminder that we already have handheld weapons that do pretty much that, but even bigger and heavier. 40mm grenade launchers fire a much heavier round at a probably higher speed without having unreasonable recoil.
@LOAN NGUYEN Those stories are more likely just a fabrication to prevent people from trying to use bolters, as it's almost a space marine status symbol, not intended for the 'lowly' humans. There's also plenty of guardsmen that have used bolters to great effect, like Stonetooth Harker and trooper Bragg for example. They both use heavy bolters without much trouble.
The 40K novels show plenty of bolters in use by people that aren't space marines. Guardsmen sometimes use them if they can get their hands on one. There's also a story where a sickly child in an overrun city finds one and kills a Berzerker with it.
@LOAN NGUYEN But Bolters aren't rare. Many blueprints were lost, but most boltgun patterns have been produced for a while. Given how practically every space marine and a load of other people have them, I'd say they are pretty common weapons.
@LOAN NGUYEN Space marines might be in the minority, but there's still a million of them. Several forge worlds produce bolters, so it's really no big deal.
Some specific patterns have been lost, but they weren't intended for mass use anyway, so it's mostly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.
No one talked about equipping regular troops with bolters. The whole reason why the lasgun is such a great gun isn't just because it's relatively inexpensive. It's because the logistics behind it are perfect for a gigantic army. It doesn't require ammo and barely requires any maintenance. It is powerful and accurate enough for it's job and can be employed in almost any situation. Even if they suddenly found an enormous cache of bolters, enough for every guardsmen, they wouldn't want to issue it.
6:08 Astartes can actually survive in the vacuum of space for a time even without armor.
Technically so can we. "Time" might be all of three seconds, but it is still time.
@@Santisima_Trinidad 15 seconds till you pass out and 90 seconds till exposure kills you.
It varies a bit, but overall an astartes can essentially “hibernate” for decades until he is rescued. Sometimes they do this when injured, or lost in space, in order to slow down their resource consumption. They have so many redundancies built into their bodies and armor that they’re harder to kill that a horror movie villain.
@@AcexxBLKRose
You'll lose consciousness in less than 15 seconds, to clarify
@@TheLeugim66 That is only if they are in a suit, without it they would die as their suit is what keep nourishes them with chemicals and nutrients. When an astartes is grievously wounded he'll enter a state of hibernation using his Sus-An Membrane, longest recorded survival was just short of 600 years.
Note: The new Primaris Space Marines has something called the Belisarian Furnace that is the last ditch effort to keep the marine alive when wounded, it essentially increases their healing factor and makes them super... super soldiers.
i usually never comment on "your typical reaction type videos", but it's highly enjoyable to see someone having a brain and using it, commenting, sharing his thoughts and truly analysing what he sees. Good content. Cheers from France.
I love the detail of the scene where they are attacking the psykers and that first marine to open fire pushes his sub machine gun onto the railing and then puts his hand on top of it to try and stabilize it at full auto.
The sheer size of the bullets they are effectively small grenades
This is how you do a reaction! With pauses and interesting commentary.
I'm sick of all the reaction channels where they just sit there and go "oh damn... Shit" and occasionally nod or just eat food.
Have a like my man!
Thanks! I'm trying to share some knowlege with the viewers. Do other reactors really eat during videos? That would drive me crazy!
@@CombatVeteranReacts Unfortunately yes. Which is why it's so refreshing to see your take on this genre of yt-videos.
And I thought your commentary was interesting, because I myself is in the national guard in my home country. I too like to draw comparisons between fiction and real applications in these combat scenarios.
I personally enjoy a raw reaction, with the first time going through just seeing them reacting to the pacing and buildup of what they're reacting to. Pauses to add a reaction kills any tension that the original piece has, and takes away from the experience. I prefer having the more detailed breakdown after it's done, with potentially jumping back into notable parts to further break down what they're talking about.
This one is a bit unique though since it came in pieces originally instead of all at once, so the pacing is a bit off. I can also understand with longer videos, because having to go though so much trying to remember will leave out moments that should be explained or expanded upon.
But those people who eat through a reaction? They can just stop. Just.... stop.
This react and breakdown while other react and breakfast
The pistol that he had is called a plasma pistol. It fires superheated blasts as hot as the sun. Very dangerous for you and the enemy. Extremely powerful it allows infantry to kill armored targets and hardened positions with ease as seen with that defensive multi-laser in the astartes video. *HOWEVER* there is a twist. Fire it too often too fast and the thing will spill plasma on the user killing them or exploding killing everyone around the user due to overheat. They are designed like that to prevent more damage to the weapon and to kill the operator to do it. The weapon has more value than the operator because most weapons are thousand year old relics. They are extremely hard to produce and almost irreplaceable. You can get another operator where the last one came from but not a plasma weapon.
That sounds like the warhammer take on weapon safety lol
well its more so the older a lot safer, and higher quality designs are very rare to come by rather then they where meant to be that unsafe.
@@salvadorespinoza7787 Its weird that Custodes do not have a plasma weapon equivalent. strange?
Who needs plasma weapons when you have such bronzed musculature?
@@kieranh2005 Bronzed yes, but don't forget that they're also slathered in oil to an almost heretical level. ( Comes in handy when traversing the Imperial Palace tho, I'll give them that).
Space marine bolters are actually very large for a regular human . Its easy to forget their actual size because well, the soldiers who use them are giants themselves ^^ .
True, space marines are like 10 feet tall, right?
@@CombatVeteranReacts yeah astartes are fracking huge, and are not just scaled up humans, but they're proportions are different. They are much broader across the upper body than regular people.
@@CombatVeteranReacts smallest one I ever read about was 7 ft. largest I think was 12ft. but he was a special case. think 9 is about average. According to the deathwatch codex in armor they are about 2,200 lbs.
@@CombatVeteranReacts Depends on the type of Astartes.
@@BartimaeusAurelius yeah, Chapter Masters tend towards the larger end of the scale, don't they?
So, to point this out: the psykers (space wizards) in the opening scene were about four times the size of a normal human. An astartes is the same size as them. That bolter is, to them, a hand gun. Now multiply the average size of an uzi by four and you have the actual size of their guns. They are comedically oversized when wielded by normal humans.
Don't see how a bounding retreat would have changed shit.
They don't got guns that could have stopped our friendly Space Marine. Even that Multilaser only did surface level damage.
Fellow combat Vet here, mech infantry. Appreciated this video. Evoked the feeling of watching anything combat related with a bunch of my buddies while also being fairly accurate. Keep up the good work!
You can see what boltgun rounds do when they hit. The enemy just tears apart suddenly and violently. It will first penetrate them *AND THEN* explode doing maximum damage. It is like poking a hole in somebody then sticking a grenade in that hole that you made. If a grenade explodes on the outside. You still die and bloody but at least the body is mostly intact or in 1 peice. That happens like IN your body next to your organs. Lets say you will not be intact and in multiple pieces.
I think that is actually how APCBC-HE rounds work IRL
@@CombatVeteranReacts armor piercing capped ballistic capped high explosive
@@CombatVeteranReacts Yeah, the Emperor is probably the only being who might even remember that the Geneva Conventions were ever a thing, and he never cared for them much in the first place
@@talltroll7092 The Geneva Conventions never banned stuff like that. You are probably thinking of the Hague Declaration. However, the Geneva Convention was long forgotten even before the Emperor became the Emperor, what with the horrific conflicts in the Dark Age of Technology that led to Old Night. Humanity had far more horrifying weapons well before the Emperor ascended the Golden Throne.
What’s scary is the short scene of the red blotches before the Astarte start shooting there able to see the enemy even through wall I think
its like thermal and night vision
One word: "Preysight"
My favorite quote from a 40k video is this; "Unnessecary violence triumphs again!"
It is meant to absolutely fit the 40k universe perfectly.
Thumbnail: OMG! I am so impressed!
Reality: I don't make any face.
From what ive heard, the boarding-craft that the astartes boarded with creates a pressurised seal in the ship as to not create any severe structural damage. The smoke that permeates from the breach hole kind of shows this.
I think it was a boarding torpedo, too, which goes back to the original idea presented by the creator: Just because it sounds crazy to us, doesn't mean they won't do it.
@@Charistoph The view from the rear is actually from a model. It exists for the game, it's called an Caestus Assault Ram, a specialised high-speed boarding vehicle for more precise boarding actions. Boarding torpedoes are more for the big space engagements since they are usually being used when the enemy defences are distracted by other incoming ordnance.
@@HistoryGameV, the view is from the top of the hull, not the rear. It could be the Assault Ram. The PoV is about right for the pilot's view. It looked like it had some of the boarding meltas like the Dreadclaw. To be fair, I haven't though about the Assault Ram in years.
@@Charistoph Well, I know the model from a friend. It's as if the camera sits right on the edge of rear of the Caestus. BTW the Caestus has a melta cannon to melt through ship armour.
The tall guy in the mask is a Psyker. You're pretty much everyday, normal, hertical Psyker.
The tall "guys" were puppets, the spheres control the skulls, few of them hover in the hallway with the "golden golem".
Starship troopers is the inspiration of all Power armor cladding scifi soldiers, even Warhammer 40k included
The first movie didn't do the power armor, but the cgi series did. Of course based off the novel. Recommend read for any into military sci-fi. Plus want to put in David Weber's Honor Harrington novels. More naval, but in my opinion a fantastic series.
@@redkommie80 the Japanese adaptation of Starship Troopers anime is quite well done too, I recommend looking it up on UA-cam.
@@ElliFong did not know of a starship trooper anime. Thanks for the heads up! Will look it up after a few more astarte reactions. Damn rabbit holes
@@ElliFong found it. Wow, 1988. This was released and I never knew it. Granted, during this period I was falling down Robotech hole ( I know, macross, and other animes, but young me enjoyed it... and still do. Even if I would rank Full Metal Panic [I need to get my hands on the new series release] aBove it.] And Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind at this time. Tenchie Muyo, El Harazard, and so many others would come later. But the fact that this gem (really just started what is a six part ova will take a while) exists and I didn't know ( or didn't pay attention). Take my anime week card away!
Anyways thanks for pointing this out. Going to be a while, but hopefully will watch it all through the week.
@@redkommie80 Enjoy man, this anime has the most detailed functioning power armor even more than CGI animation lol
I love how you actually show expertise and thinking in this reaction instead of the usual what people do: *wow noises*
I love finding channels from other vets that are well-read, I was hooked after you mentioned OG starship troopers keep up the great work bro.
The insight and commentary is actually really good, love to see more of this
Thanks!
The slight time delay between the visual explosion and the sound of it at 13:31 is the best thing in animated video history. This ammount of atention to detail baffled me.
@Combat Veteran Reacts
Regarding the ambush, did you notice the Space Marine stepping out of the shadows to take out the gunner on the autocannon? The Marines knew he was there and the ones in the column played the decoy.
[edit] Don't worry if you missed it, you only _just_ catch a glimpse of him in the few frames of animation it takes to light the room with the autocannon's muzzle flare. :P
“Purge the heretic” “destroy the alien” “massacre the unclean”
6:55 in the 40k universe there are universe filled with any number of factions and people so these people could be anybody however the golden dude is a automaton most likely grafted upon a living organisms "most likely human" and as you know later when they put up that shield to block the bolter fire "which is essentially a 50 cal armor piercing explosive tipped round made of something far beyond steel from a gun that can put a hole the size of a pig waist into a 5inch thick tank laced with heavy duty aluminium alloy" they tapped directly into hell to receive power. Which is suicidal to the max.
5:56 Those boarding torpedoes are special, and are only used when recovery of the boarded ship is desirable. They release a foam as they burrow, sealing the breach they make. Also, they fully expect this tiny team of Astartes to capture a ship with 10s of thousands of people aboard. Its a Cobra-class destroyer, an escort ship with a comparable size to an Imperial Star Destroyer from star wars.
6:58 Astartes fight the enemies of mankind, in all their many flavors. Xenos, Mutants, and heretics. Unless they(the astartes) are heretics, but we don't talk about them.
7:40 They are confident in their armor's ability to resist small arms. Why waste time being methodical when they lack the means to damage you?
12:00 That assumes you have weapons that affect the enemy astartes. They don't.
13:15 Twin linked multilaser. It's an anti-infantry piece. It could have taken the marine down if the gunner had waited for the marine to go further down the hall, but he got impatient.
14:04 Homebrew baddies, influenced by freaky xenos artifacts, not chaos.
14:50 No. The bolters are massive. The marines are so large they make the weapons look small. Size varies from 8~10 feet, but thats without their mega thick armor on.
17:30 Close enough.
Actually, the boarded ship is not a Cobra, the ship the Astartes come from is a Cobra.
Also, considering the different types of Imperial Star Destroyers, you're going to need to be specific.
@@MidoriOfTheShuinsen Imperial Star Destroyer without any qualification is generally understood to mean Imperial (I or II, more likely to be II) class star destroyer.
No one comments about the ship crew in the corridors while the Astartes are going to the transports.
What about them?
@BenjaminTheRogue which ones?
The two drones at the beginning are actually designed to fly toward incoming enemy missiles and explode to take out as many as possible, with the twin cannons shooting down any that get by them.
Well done. You won me over the moment you mentioned the book "Starship Troopers." Lots of sci-fi has been doing HALO and HAHO jumps for years and it's cool that someone actually pointed out where it comes from. Thank you
I think the friendly fire in the hallway was more just the artillery crewman panicking because he saw the space marine, and a space marine is horrifying to see if it's your enemy
In the opening they are described as rebels. They MAY be chaos worshippers or they may simply be a population who are revolting against the rule of the Imperium. The question gets a bit more light shed upon it in the next part so I won’t put any spoilers here
I would say that they are renegade mercs, like R&H Marauders. As they clearly have carapace armour.
Messenger: Sire, the people are revolting!!
King: You're telling me!!
and those guys with the energy shield were were pskers likely bonded to each other and sharing senses and power
That makes sense given their mutual sheilding
Doesn't that also kinda stabilise their powers as well?
guessing some of the linking has to do with their bodies as well. I noticed that one only seems to have a left arm, the other only a right
That’s what the machine spirits are for, they guide the boarding pod.
Their armor has several advanced methods of scanning for various things. They don't need to "clear" a room. Their auspex will pick up any life signs. Also, violently is how astartes attack...
"They would normally only fight other humans if they were aligned with chaos".... oh you poor sweet innocent child
LOL
Yeah, he must be unaware of the Badab conflict.
@@randlebrowne2048 or just your average Tuesday
Loving the commentary. just found this channel today and I’m surprised it hasn’t blown up yet. Been binging your channels archive and overall your breakdowns are genuinely interesting. Hopefully the algorithm recognizes the quality
Thanks! Your likes and comments are offerings to the youtube machine spirits hahaha.
The dude is probably an Alien.
Some Lore channels theorize that they are of Yu'vath origin(Xenos), others say they are Men of Gold (Ancient AIs built by humans during the Dark/Golden Age of Technology, dates back to the 15th millennium to the 25th Millenium, an OverPower human era)
Interesting. The lore really goes way back lol
@@CombatVeteranReacts it also includes our history as well
My friend, that hook for boarding is by ancient Romans, my ancestors call it "Corvus" by latin. /hugs brò
Thanks, I realize I got that wrong. The Greeks used the battering ram
@@CombatVeteranReacts if i had to guess, the first to board were probably the phoenicians or some lost culture before the bronze age collapse, considering they already had sprawling maritime trade
Yep and the Romans abandoned pretty quickly too once they became much more experienced at sea. Initially it was even the playing field with the Carthaginians who were the supreme naval power at the time of the First Punic War. Their sailors were better trained, and more experienced which meant they could out maneuver the Romans at sea. This is important as the usual tactic was to ram the enemy ship. The Corvus allowed the Romans to prevent a ship from getting away and fight the battle on their terms as they were much more experienced with land combat. Once they managed to train enough sailors to fight conventionally at sea they abandoned it.
This is so incredible to watch.
To see you explain real life military tactics and how they are applied to the fights here.
I love this.
This series was completed by 1 guy. Kinda increases the amount of awe and respect for the quality. The space marines are a squad of 5. 5 for the entire ship!
The reason Astartes move so quickly in a straight wave of seeming to just kill whatever is in sight, and move on, is because their ausepcs arrays in the suits sense everything. Hidden heat sigs, even the pulse of a hiding enemy. So, yeah, they do waste literally everything, and move on.
There are naval battles in 40k. Though a lot of the ships are so large that it's easier to send a squad to capture it than actually destroy it sometimes.
Ships are so large in 40k that they are sent in space xD
Naval battles are _very_ common in 40K. The reason to send a squad to board a ship rather than just blast it into space dust is if you want to be 100% certain of eliminating a high-value target. Ships in 40K have escape pods/life boats, and just blasting a heretic's ship to smithereens may not ensure that you actually get the HVT... or that he was even on that ship. Even an Ork Warboss would generally be smart enough to jump ship if he knew that the Imperial Navy was about to ruin his day. Another reason to board a particular ship is if the ship would be worth more as a prize than by destroying it outright.
However, very large ships are actually _impractical_ to board. For instance, the _Trisagion_ during the Horus Heresy was deemed too large to board, so the Ultramarines just whittled her down with gunfire.
When the boarding craft impacts, it releases a foam that seals the breach behind it ^.^
Thank you thank you THANK YOU
As a guy who does VFX stuff, this is the kind of the level of polish I want in my story telling. He picked the right angles, the right levels of detail, dude was on his cinematic game when he made this. The scene told the entire story, just using his 3D skillz.
Regarding your questions about the bolters.
Firstly, they are NOT rifles, despite people calling them that and wanting to assign a caliber to the rounds. They're actually a smooth-bore gyro-jet weapon. They fire rifled slugs, like you'd fire from a shotgun. In this case, they are explosive rocker-propelled shells, launched from the weapon by a kick-charge which also ignites the internal propellant. Going off the size of the weapon, and the bore of it's muzzle, it would be considered an A gauge gun (2 inch bore), which would technically classify it as a punt gun. Bolters are considered to hold 30 rounds in their magazines, but actually this has been unchanged since the early days of the 40K table-top, where the miniatures showed bolters with much longer magazines than they have on current models, so make of that what you will.
In other scifi universes ships fire from afar. Far range engagents and fighters and all of that. 40k Imperial Navy vesels are *close* range brawlers with *HEAVY* close range broadsides and boarding torpedos with massive armored wedgelike ADAMANTIUM prows for *RAMMING*. The main weapon is the broadsides but also the ship itself. The plan is to Ram anything in front of it then board and blast anything that missed the broadsides.
Ramming as a preferred tactic is peak warhammer 40k
Exactly, melee weapons in 40k are also extremely devastating.
@@CombatVeteranReacts They also tend to have a pretty hefty armament of regular old torpedoes to handle things at long range.
Ship in 40K also fire from afar. Most weapons are long-range. They like to come close because they can bring more of their guns into effective range, but 40K si can and do fight as distances of tend of thousands of km.
@@tonistanicic8279 well they can be used from that far does not mean they should be used from that far. Lances yes can go very far at hit with devastating accuracy. With macro cannons not really because if you because fire them from too far and they won’t hit. Even with lead, if a ship they are firing at is too far, a small change in speed or direction can throw off the whole barage and will miss the target. The shells are a ballistic weapon or non instant based energy weapon like plasma. Since they are not instant and not 100% accurate the shots can be seen and “dodged” for lack of better words. Power and penetration however is the same no mater the range because there is no drag to slow it down.
GW actually took the team behind Astartes under their wing. After releasing an updated, more lore-accurate cut of the film on their community website (In lower quality I might add). I generally prefer the original (Which is egregious that they made the Astartes channel delete the original series in the first place, hurting the creator and sullying THEIR cheap version of Astartes).
I believe it was done by a single person. No I'm not trolling you, I was shocked the one person did it.
Yeah, done by a guy out of New Zealand. I swear that man is not human. But is kinda sad to see that this work of art is getting skewed by GW.
team? one bloke did this.
Just to feed the algorithm I'mma try to answer a few questions to the best of my knowledge.
First, a bolter is an enormous weapon, even a bog standard bolter pistol is significantly larger than even something like an AR15 variant patterned as a pistol; these will typically contain between 6 and 15 rounds depending on the variant, typically more likely between 6 and 10, good for one short burst. Bolter rifles contain more rounds but I think it's important to note, in the beginning scene every time they fire they fire one round at a target and then select a new target, this is accuracy and efficacy you simply can't expect from either conventional firearms or conventional forces; but this contrasts nicely with the magazine dumps during the psyker fight scenes, which are only for distraction, or at the very best case bruteforcing through their defenses.
The enemy forces themselves are a rebel faction, not chaos aligned but under the influence of a group of Alien entities which we meet in episode 5, per the creator these aliens were an original creation despite their similarity to another faction in the existing lore because the creator was simply unaware of them. The troops appear to be bogstandard humans in the form of Naval Armsmen (infantry dedicated to the navy), but their leaders are uplifted humans in possession of alien tech which grants them limited Psyker abilities (the masks/spines).
A minor one but the Astartes did breach the hull, but both boarding torpedoes and the boarding craft the Astartes used have mechanisms to temporarily seal the hull behind them, which was always odd to me since you'd think fighting in vacuum while in vacuum capable Power Armor would give the Space Marines a decided advantage. As per the boarding action itself, I think it's safe to assume that the Space Marines were sent to pacify the ship in its entirety. Now in 40k, a ship that size could easily have a crew and passenger list in the tens of thousands, so sending five troops with the expectation that they'd be able to engage everyone aboard is absurd by modern standards, but this is 40k and as you know absurd is kinda the baseline.
And to counter this the rebel forces set up ambushes, guard choke points, employ anti-armor weapons, throw every man available at the five Retributors and none of it works. Space Marine sensors and training see through the ambushes, space marine armor tanks through the chokepoints, and clever application of space marine weapons mitigates any threats from the big guns. As to the scene where the Sergeant chases the group straight into a multilaser trap, those men are already dead, they know it, the men on the emplacement know it, they're panicked and broken and nothing they can do will even slow the Retributor Sergeant down. So the gun crew on the emplacement mow them down, because killing twenty or thirty of your own men to give you even a chance to kill just one Astartes is more than a fair trade. This was also something you also saw in the Death Korps of Krieg video, where a squad of Kriegsmen saved a downed Dark Angel from a Traitor Astartes by drawing his attention, until one of them ultimately sacrificed himself by detonating every demolition charge and grenade he could carry directly in the Traitor Marine's face. Life isn't meaningless in 40k, the math is just a lot more blatant.
I'm digging your channel btw and am looking forward to Overlord part 2. The same team did another live action SCP short film called Dollhouse, that one's quality as well if you're generating a list. If you're more interested in sticking with 40k, there's a ton of material, ranging from the serious analysis of Luetin09 to the more verbose storytelling of Baldemort to the pants on head goofiness of Bricky, and if you want something more lighthearted and funny you can always have a look at If the Emperor Had a Text to Speech Device, which while non canon breaks the lore down in a hilarious and lovingly well researched way.
Bolter is something similar to XM-25 or Neopup PAW-20 grenade launchers, but launching gyrojet ammo.
@@piotrd.4850 Yeh, it's been likened to a fully automatic Rocket Propelled Grenade launcher but that's not entirely accurate.
The thing that I didn't realize the first few times watching was how he animated the bolt rounds exploding. You got to see it really clearly when the rounds got stuck in the shields. I know that the bold rounds are supposed to explode, calling them bullets is a bit of a stretch, it's just that most animators don't think about that or don't show it properly. Huge props to the creator here!
I really enjoyed the military and tactical commentary you provided. Your insight into the tactics as well as your knowledge of the origins of many of the tropes and situations we're seeing in the episode was very impressive. I'll attempt to answer some of the questions you have.
In this case you're very right about the goal of the boarding raid. They are attempting to find and secure a specific item, which you'll see in the next episode. The faction they're fighting are called separatists, meaning they're humans who have chosen to break away from the Imperium and self govern. Very likely they were once an imperial guard or local planetary defense force who chose to defect to another side. This kind of thing happens fairly often, though usually the Astartes wouldn't be used to deal with them unless the force was sizable enough or dangerous enough to warrant it. For example, an entire planet defecting, or a group with access to some dangerous xeno tech or chaos worshipper elements. These guys do have some xeno tech, though it's not very obvious from the first two episodes. Those gold masks being worn by the psyckers are connected to it though.
For 41st millenium the standard bolter calibre is primarily a .75 calibre. At least for Godwyn Mk Vb - the most widely used pattern used by Astartes. Their magazines carry 30 bolts, but i think i saw drum magazine and they can carry way more. By the way bolter calibre is a reference to Harry Harrison and his "The stainless Steel Rat".
This is the first I've heard of Harry Harrison
@@CombatVeteranReacts just a sci fi author from 60s. He parodied classic sci fi like "starship troopers" and 40k was kinda based on satirical stuff like this
@@МаксимРочев-щ7д Yeah, starting with "Bill, the Galaxy Hero" - parody of Starship Troopers. But actually, who wrote magnificent set of short stories "War with Robots".
@@piotrd.4850 "War with Robots" definitely inspired GW for Dark Age of Technology or at least was one of the sources of inspiration
@@piotrd.4850 Mgr
Astartes Doctrine: "Suffer not the xenos (or their lackeys) to live."
Don’t be letting the Heretic and Mutant live, bro!
The Emporer's Astartes know no fear nor hesitation. The Emporer Protects.
I love how they animated the bolter impact, being shot with a thick self propelled redbull can stuffed with explosives and an adamantine sharp end will literally blow your head, both from being shot and reading how complicated the bolter ammo and bolter itself is
Impressed about the Starship Troopers tidbit thrown in there. Thanks.
In other scifi universes and even our own those kind of boarding actions(Not in a secluded part of the ship but right into the heart where defences are heavy) are too dangerous for anyone but an astartes/ heavily armored genetically modified super soldier.
Astartes are the perfect ship boarding troopers. Hence 'Space Marine' I guess
@@CombatVeteranReacts They can do so much more than that. Take Massacring an entire population (HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS) for turning against the Imperium. They never accept surrender from the FOUL heretics AND MASSACARE THEM ALL.
The bolter rounds are basically about the size of a redbull can and the bolters are appropriately sized to house an entire magazine of them, the bolters aren't small, the space marines are just huge
perspective is everything lol
@@CombatVeteranReacts you can see the perspective in part 1 with the comparison between the crew and the astartes while marching down the hallway
@@CombatVeteranReacts From my understanding their rounds are a mix between a bullet and a grenade. So it would be like everyone is walking around with a scaled-down Mk19.
You probable should have reacted to all of them at once. They're pretty short videos.
This is the best display of proper grammar, punctuation, etc., I've ever seen in a comments section. It's refreshing to read such well laid out comments.