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  • @maguc5906
    @maguc5906 Рік тому +908

    My pick would be something like this:
    Passive: Veigar's "Phenomenal Evil Power". I think the ability to infinitely get AP during a game is really good, allowing you to build something more than just AP items, like tank or even support items to help yourself/your team and still have 1000+ AP in the late game.
    Q: Veigar's "Baleful Strike". Relatively low CD for a mage, has good damage and hits up to 2 units with a respectable range of 950 units. Low mana, low cooldown for a mage, it's a really good poke tool.
    W: Veigar's "Dark Matter". Is there really much I need to say about this? 300 base + 100% AP scaling, allowing you to literally one shot squishies in the late game. The only problem, is that it has a big indicator and a 1.2 delay, so enemies can move out of the way with ease, so you need some sort of setup, which leads me into....
    E: Veigar's "Event Horizon". As you said in the video, it's a 1.5/2.5 second stun, that lasts for 3 seconds and can hit multiple champions, even locking down dashes so you need to waste flash or another dash. Even if you don't get the stun, as long as the enemy is inside the cage, you can hit your Q and W (Plus any items you have) with relative ease.
    R: Veigar's "Primordial Burst" Not much to say here. Just a good, single target damaging ability that gets stronger the lower your target is on health. In the late game, a good Q+W+R combo can take down pretty much anyone, and your E allows you to have the setup to get the kill. Really good ability.
    I have no bias

    • @Ricekrispy10
      @Ricekrispy10 Рік тому +145

      Something tells me you're a Vayne player

    • @samkun6629
      @samkun6629 Рік тому +50

      I might be wrong but i guess u like veigar

    • @pedrodudscucs3349
      @pedrodudscucs3349 Рік тому +37

      "Q+W+R can kill basically anyone" yeah, epic monsters included...

    • @felix4124
      @felix4124 Рік тому +31

      now imagine karthus ult instead

    • @Kiyelru
      @Kiyelru Рік тому +21

      My guts is telling me that you main yorick

  • @murkel7634
    @murkel7634 Рік тому +543

    I am very suprised veigar passive didn't get mentioned, if you combined it with any spamable ability or ticking attack you could easily reach 1000 extra abilty power concistantly.

    • @alexanderchipman9571
      @alexanderchipman9571 Рік тому +104

      Karthus Skittles with Veigar Passive: I HAVE ASCENDED BEYOND YOUR WILDEST IMAGINATION

    • @typervader
      @typervader Рік тому +66

      @@alexanderchipman9571 Oh dear God. Add in Cass E with that too

    • @sharkin4867
      @sharkin4867 Рік тому +3

      isnt part of the passive that you can only stack with veigar's q though? (excluding the 15ap you get per takedown)

    • @thisisboringfilmstudios8102
      @thisisboringfilmstudios8102 Рік тому +62

      @@sharkin4867 nah you get for hitting people too. The only thing you miss out on is last hitting minions with q, but on other mages hou can hit champions more often, so it balences out

    • @sharkin4867
      @sharkin4867 Рік тому +12

      @@thisisboringfilmstudios8102 ah i see i forgot that part of the passive lmao. That would just be busted on cassio e then XD

  • @fujin4991
    @fujin4991 Рік тому +179

    Anivia's wall is insane, malz passive is free item, veigar E for an awesome threat, and many ult like veigar 's for an execute, or cassiopea's R, even Anivia R able to ruin an entire team fight.

    • @tess9063
      @tess9063 Рік тому +4

      veigar cage and ani ult

    • @blackie2455
      @blackie2455 Рік тому +10

      @@tess9063 and veigar passive so every anivia R hit gives more ap, kassa w so you dont go out of mana... Q from cassia... More ap, I mean you have to hite hard spells, but if you do you can't lose, or you can choose braindead Q like vladimir and never die

    • @blueqion9488
      @blueqion9488 Рік тому +6

      Some might say Karthus R would be very broken on something like Veigar

    • @blackie2455
      @blackie2455 Рік тому +1

      @@ilyasdaydreamer It's free item that protects you while channeling spells like malz R

  • @lucaiozzo8273
    @lucaiozzo8273 Рік тому +331

    Imagine orianna's passive (all the abilities come from the ball) and Q (move the ball wherever you want) with lissanra's w (a root with instant cast)

    • @everything-has-a-handle-now
      @everything-has-a-handle-now Рік тому +42

      orianna ult with veigar cage though

    • @teddybblazin5628
      @teddybblazin5628 Рік тому +19

      She also gets bonus damage on her autos. People sleep on that, 20% AP bonus. Lethal tempo and nashors on Ori makes her DPS go way up

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z Рік тому +8

      Imagine moving the Ball into the middle of the enemy team and casting neeko ult.

    • @fantasan8540
      @fantasan8540 Рік тому +9

      @@teddybblazin5628 Yeah but to compensate she needs to hit the same target multiple times and her base ad is heavily nerfed compared to other mages

    • @teddybblazin5628
      @teddybblazin5628 Рік тому

      @@fantasan8540 that's true but Ori should be focusing the adc or supp anyways

  • @kurooaisu
    @kurooaisu Рік тому +118

    P: Karma's passive (useless without Mantra ult)
    Q: Brand Q (single target with low AP scaling)
    W: Aurelion Sol W (useless without star circle)
    E: Twisted Fate E (it has no active. But you can AA faster and harder I guess)
    R: Zoe R (What are u doing? Dodging a skillshot?)
    There you go, now try to be useful in this game. Part 2.

    • @CrypticSpoon1
      @CrypticSpoon1 Рік тому +40

      Replace Zoe R with Lillia, cant cast without her passive

    • @raphaelnej8387
      @raphaelnej8387 Рік тому +3

      lillia can’t really be considered a mage, can she ?

    • @winndze578
      @winndze578 Рік тому +4

      Isnt ryze Q even worse than brands?

    • @LerilayRelyable
      @LerilayRelyable Рік тому +2

      I guess all you need for this to work fairly good is Leech Bane (+Liandry or Night harvester)
      With LB you are basically gaining Zoe's passive which hurts;
      Brand's Q will be easy to hit, cuz of Zoe's R;
      I'm not sure, but is Asol's W cancels autoatack cooldown? Well considering cooldown after getting damage... At least you can leap over the walls and asasinate..?;
      TF's E is already makes it better;
      Zoe's R is a low cooldown close up ability with vision, so you will be burning people.

    • @eno6712
      @eno6712 Рік тому +2

      @@raphaelnej8387 she's an Ap skirmisher

  • @kcStranger
    @kcStranger Рік тому +144

    I'm pretty sure Seraphine Passive + Taliyah Q is actually great since you get a normal cast and a boulder with 1 button press.

    • @Yordlevi
      @Yordlevi Рік тому +5

      Right?

    • @alliu6562
      @alliu6562 Рік тому +13

      It’s like an instant reset for the worked ground basically

    • @errorrath6555
      @errorrath6555 Рік тому +6

      Exactly and with how spammable it is you could just get a constant boulder slow and almost guaranteed all 4 stones hit. but if you had a scenario where the worked ground circles will overlap and it would make you throw 2 boulders if you mistimed Sera passive.

    • @nemanjarakic6815
      @nemanjarakic6815 Рік тому +12

      he probably didnt take into consideration the new Taliyah Q. happens to the best of us

    • @kcStranger
      @kcStranger Рік тому +8

      @@nemanjarakic6815 Someone's been playing a bunch of Smash and not keeping up with patches ; )

  • @HeavensBane53
    @HeavensBane53 Рік тому +77

    Think Veigar's passive deserves at least an honorable mention. No matter what extra AP for a mage is going to be useful and if you took it with highly spammable abilities (or probably abilities that hit multiple times in one cast) you could stack it up to absurd degrees very quickly. Combine that with just stronger damaging basic abilities and you have an absolute monster of a champion. Imagine, for example, using karthus ult with over 1k ap at 20 mins, seems pretty disgusting to me.

    • @ClaraSticks.like.figure
      @ClaraSticks.like.figure Рік тому +1

      Early game it's passive is kinda useless....

    • @tomwanders6022
      @tomwanders6022 Рік тому +2

      @@ClaraSticks.like.figure well, not really, you gain a lot of ap really quick. Even early on this makes you snowball your AP really quickly.
      Given that the video is about mages, I would say this ability is overall one of the most broken ones ever.
      (technically GP is a battle mages, so his Ult would also be something, if it was put on a mage.)

  • @Kais3rProductions
    @Kais3rProductions Рік тому +57

    I mean I can also say Veigar’s passive would be a good contender as well because getting free AP on any mage is stupid. Since there is technically a hard limit on AP from items (minus runes), giving other mages the ability to infinitely scale is scary.

    • @robincarlstedt392
      @robincarlstedt392 Рік тому +11

      Veigar passive with ryze q+e and karthus ult

    • @mr.cauliflower3536
      @mr.cauliflower3536 Рік тому +3

      @@robincarlstedt392 yup, add leblanc or morgana w and you are almost untouchable

    • @cynnel7527
      @cynnel7527 Рік тому

      his passive only works with HIS q on minions so you would be forced to use veigar q aswell

    • @viniciuspasquali1801
      @viniciuspasquali1801 Рік тому +6

      @@cynnel7527 no…the passive gives you ap based on champions hit…the Q thingy is only for minions…

    • @cynnel7527
      @cynnel7527 Рік тому

      That’s what I said

  • @levelup7666
    @levelup7666 Рік тому +79

    I’d think that Vel’Koz passive should have also gotten an honorable mention, because it’s a free burst of true damage after hitting three abilities. It would be worse than Annie’s but it would still be broken on mages like Ryze or Cassiopeia.

    • @babygirlvenere
      @babygirlvenere Рік тому +6

      LEBLANC ULT WITH VEL''KOZ PASSIVE

    • @cardcrown8202
      @cardcrown8202 Рік тому +5

      Not to mention that Vel passive stacks/accumulates per hit, so any DoT instantly becomes way more dangerous

    • @dracorpl392
      @dracorpl392 Рік тому +3

      You made me imagine Cassio dealing true damage with every 3rd e. Now I'm too scared to come out of my room

    • @gregorysandy2960
      @gregorysandy2960 Рік тому +2

      @@cardcrown8202 And his ult deals all its dmg as true dmg once u have stack the passive once, plus its stacks the passive over 2 over if they eat the enitre ult, Which makes velkoz a good antitank mage. This didn't really hit me til I was dealing with a fed nasus, and lets just say one basic rotation and ult was enough to kill him with all his items. Yh I was fed too, but any other burst mage not doing that. I really like vel'koz, but he's conditional champ and requires good angling skills and mana use early and peel, but good pick if their team has alot of tanky slow champs.

    • @lemonlupinreuben5362
      @lemonlupinreuben5362 Рік тому

      Does it also tick on Cassio's poison tho?

  • @Nuclearburrit0
    @Nuclearburrit0 Рік тому +74

    As an Anivia main I actually kinda disagree with Anivia R being a contender here.
    Her kit already has lockdown to keep champions in her R, and her R deals damage primarily by enabling her E, which is her real damage. So in isolation it doesn't do a lot of damage.

    • @marshallneff1631
      @marshallneff1631 Рік тому +6

      Agree. And also, id make her q atleast an honorable mentions. I cant even count the amount of teamfights i managed to solo win by stunning 3+ people at once

    • @GrimoireM
      @GrimoireM Рік тому +4

      @@marshallneff1631 Her R's main use in isolation is for waveclear and zone control, which it still does well. I do think it's hard to really evaluate her fairly though since she's already internally synergistic. Her passive is her best individual ability from a power budget standpoint though. Her W's not far behind that but that's because the thing it's most known for (setting up her Q and R) works with every single mage kit in some capacity due to the sheer number of skillshots we're considering here.

    • @marshallneff1631
      @marshallneff1631 Рік тому +1

      @@GrimoireM her w is certainly one of the most versitaile abilities in lol, and her ult is an incredible zoning and waveclear tool, but the latest has a really huge limitation. It forces her to build specific items
      If you dont buy atleast 1 mana item + a tear and bring atleast 1 rune thats increasing your mana pool, you are basically screwed in a prolonged fight. Its just that mana hungry. And you overestimate her passive. Its just too specific. In earlygame its pretty usefull in a 1v1 scenario, because if you fight in your minionwave, or under your tower, that can defend the egg for long enough to rewive, but in any other cases its just a kiss on a decapitated body. Past the 15 min mark its pretty rare that it survives long enough. And it has a 4 min cd. So most of the time you dont have a passive.

    • @Kyle496
      @Kyle496 Рік тому

      @@marshallneff1631
      The number of times anivias passive results in a revive compared to that of still dying is stupidly low. I agree with you 100%, she basically has no passive.

  • @tyronepalma3854
    @tyronepalma3854 Рік тому +76

    Once you've done the main 6 I'd love a vid on specialist abilities. Obviously it would be hard as they all don't even have the same playstyles but it would be cool due to the massive number of zoning abilities and super ultimates

    • @burneracc1366
      @burneracc1366 Рік тому +4

      kayle with gangplank barels sounds totaly fair

    • @mxri2019
      @mxri2019 Рік тому +2

      @@burneracc1366 honestly, you'd remove kayles best basic ability, and barrels don't fit in with her playstyle. You'll lose the bonus damage, and barrels are good when building AD, Kayle likes a lot of attack speed.
      Wouldn't be that broken

    • @brettessex5634
      @brettessex5634 Рік тому

      @@burneracc1366 what about Jhins 4th shot with gps barrel.

    • @BrutalSalamander1
      @BrutalSalamander1 Рік тому

      Singed with Kennen passive permastunning everyone with neurotoxins

    • @mxri2019
      @mxri2019 Рік тому

      @@brettessex5634 jhins 4th shot is good but that's all the damage in the passive. You're sacrificing on a LOT with that

  • @NastyBuckos
    @NastyBuckos Рік тому +28

    I think with the new mini-rework that Taliyah had I believe she could make use of seraphine's passive due to the worked ground q doing tons of damage and providing a decent slow

  • @davidkiknavelidze2130
    @davidkiknavelidze2130 Рік тому +57

    Karthus passive would not be better on other mages, as they have high cooldowns to do much in 7 seconds, also being rooted in one place does not help especially when u have skillshots to land. This ability would be much better and kinda busted on marksmen, vice verca I disagree about Sera's passive being better on adcs, as they usually don't have abilities, that make big use of double casting and notes can be stacked while you are in group and if u spam abilities, so yet again mages make a better use of this one. I would replace Karthus' passive with Veigar's passive.

    • @hwaryun7042
      @hwaryun7042 Рік тому +5

      vars was talking about the auto attacking part of her passive not the whole thing. Also ezreal, lucain and to some extent vayne spam their ablities. Lucain and ezreal will their dash up almost constantly as the cd go down after usage of ablities or autos. Vayne will be able to double dash after her q so her ult will be insane. Also for got about samira she would be busted with the her style meter going up really quickly.

    • @jakethesnake6783
      @jakethesnake6783 Рік тому +5

      @@hwaryun7042 for samira stacking passive requires different abilities so double cast does not help

    • @hwaryun7042
      @hwaryun7042 Рік тому +1

      @@jakethesnake6783 oh yeah.

    • @davidkiknavelidze2130
      @davidkiknavelidze2130 Рік тому +1

      @@hwaryun7042 Does not change the fact, that on mages the note passive still seems better, not to mention it scales with ap. I am not saying it would not be good on several marksmen though...

    • @hwaryun7042
      @hwaryun7042 Рік тому

      @@davidkiknavelidze2130 obviously if you are changing it to work from a class that is fully ap to a class that is 99% ad you will change what is scales with. Most mages will only auto attack in a combo in the early game or when they are waiting for cooldowns. It will not get as much of value then it would on adcs who would still be using their abilities semi-regularly in fights. It is rare for an adc to go a whole teamfight with out pressing any of their ablities. It is more rare than a mage getting value from auto attacking cos in most cases the enemy are out of range dead.

  • @dravendraven1471
    @dravendraven1471 Рік тому +51

    It's definitely Taliyah's Q. Threaded volley. As she can stone enemies that oppose the almighty Draven.

  • @Amy-ji5he
    @Amy-ji5he Рік тому +25

    I'm surprised you didn't talk about Veigar Passive + Cassiopeia E
    You could get insane amounts of AP on team fights just from being there, specially if you have CC like Twisted Fate's card. If you add Ahri's ult then you get 3 instant reposition everytime you kill someone
    Just a thought

    • @romankarol5370
      @romankarol5370 Рік тому +1

      cass e isnt an ability without the rest of the kit tho, those were ruled out at the beggining

    • @Amy-ji5he
      @Amy-ji5he Рік тому +3

      @@romankarol5370 wdym? it has a 0.75 cooldown at all levels, sure you wont get the healing or the bonus magic damage but you'll already have the healing from seraph's and the damage from veigar's passive

    • @latawieclatajacy9053
      @latawieclatajacy9053 8 місяців тому

      or combine veigars passive with swain ultimate, the longer its up the stronger it gets

  • @wesker8814
    @wesker8814 Рік тому +7

    Too many good abilities but i bet at least one per ability will be there hahaha
    P - Annie, Seraphine, Vex
    Q - Taliyah, Viktor
    W - Zoe, Liss, Anivia, LeBlanc, Vladimir
    E - Asol, Cassio, Veigar
    R - Seraphine, Liss, Ahri, Karthus

    • @wesker8814
      @wesker8814 Рік тому

      PS forgot about veigar passive lmao

    • @typervader
      @typervader Рік тому +1

      Well you got most of that list right lol

  • @abdelabdu3721
    @abdelabdu3721 Рік тому +11

    My choice would probably be:
    P: Veigar's "Phenomenal Evil Power." It's an amazing scaling ability that gives ap champs the boost of AP necessary as they are all so heavily spell reliant. Imagine a 1000+ AP Lux Final Spark with a cooldown of around 10 seconds. You basically have Veigar's ultimate on a 10 second cooldown. On top of this, mages don't have access to high AP items that are also super useful utility wise because that would make them overpowered, so this passive could make up the difference for many champions. (Hypothetically if we weren't limiting this to just mages, imagine a Blitzcrank with this passive.. his ult would literally oneshot)
    Q: This one was hard but I settled on Vladimir's "Transfusion" an in lane sustain with a good amount of damage in the late game. This is also a wonderful tool for easy last hits on minions and can create a vast variety of combinations for broken mages. Even though it would technically be possible to just use the rest of Vladimir's kit so that this champion doesn't require mana, you could easily give up Crimson Rush as the extra damage and movement speed could easily be made up for by the passive/other abilities... which brings me to
    W: Zoe's "Spell Thief" this ability literally does what Crimson Rush does on Transfusion. Extra movement speed and damage but it also comes with a bonus of free spells and items. This ability is so unbearably broken that it is only really limited by the champion it is on. Because so much of Zoe's power lays in Paddle Star, removing this ability from her kit to another champion could create the most broken bs thing ever. And it doesn't cost mana.
    E: This one too me the longest to decide but I would probably go for Lux's "Lucent Singularity." just because of the sheer amount of utility and easy damage packed into this ability. Though this has indeed broken our streak of manaless abilities, guess what, having Veigar's P allows you to focus much more on mana items. This can be used as a scouting tool when picking up Summoner Spells after a teamfight you weren't present for, or even just to zone enemies out of Dragon and Baron pit in late game when you have a lot of AP so that squishies cannot walk in without being absolutely ruined.
    R: Ah the ultimate. Ahri's Spirit Rush, no question's asked. Even though the resetting mechanic is locked behind Ahri's Essence Theft, you can still use the three dashes on literally any champion in the game and it would be broken. Even though technically this is hyper-specific, this example happens so often that I don't mind including it here: Imagine you have this kit and let's say 25 minutes into the game. You're at a respectable 600-700 AP with 3 items. You use your Lux E and have just happened to pick up a Rocketbelt from a nearby minion (this isn't even really necessary). You hit someone with Lucent Singularity and you proceed to dash in with Spirit Rush and Rocketbelt and then kill them with Transfusion and use another charge of Spirit Rush to get away. Like I said, this is hyper-specific, but Spirit Rush just gives so much access to so many different opportunities that it is hilarious to think about what it could do on other champions.
    I would say that this isn't probably the BEST BEST set of ability combinations, but it could be absolutely broken in most game situations. Honorable mentions for each ability:
    P: Vex's "Doom n' Gloom," Annie's "Pyromania," and Malzahar's "Void Shift."
    Q: Lux's "Light Binding," Zoe's "Paddle Star," and Taliyah's "Threaded Volley."
    W: Vex's "Personal Space," TF's "Pick a Card," and Seraphine's "Surround Sound." (imagine this with the AP scaling of Veigar P)
    E: Veigar's "Event Horizon," Sylas's "Abscond/Abduct," and Vel'Koz's "Tectonic Disruption"
    R: Leblanc's "Mimic," TF's "Destiny," and Seraphine's "Encore"

    • @chiidybang370
      @chiidybang370 Рік тому

      Tbh. For me Seraphines passive is the best of all mages. Not even close. Every third ability gets casted twice(only Costs mana 1 time)on its own is overpowered af. But you also get increased Aa range and an enchanced Aa after casting an ability.
      Yeah veigars passive is strong but its by far less powerfull than seras in early and midgame. The passive alone in an other skillset makes the line impossible to play for your opponent. If lux 2x casts her e and Hits you your forced to go back at lvl 3. Not to forget how many champs can 1 shot the wave at lvl 4 with 1 spell rotation. Thats sooo op. Double ahri q and roam. Or give it to anivia. Ult Double e= 100 to 0 in 1second.
      Jungle Camps in 2 seconds, ..
      With veigar you have to scale, seras is op from start to end of game.

  • @davidkiknavelidze2130
    @davidkiknavelidze2130 Рік тому +95

    Zoe's paddle star is only good in combination with her e and r, otherwise it's not that great, also spell thief while being strong, is nowhere near the strongest, as it's pretty inconsistent.

    • @proxd_18v
      @proxd_18v Рік тому

      facts

    • @bsbuster8469
      @bsbuster8469 Рік тому +2

      its because zoe cant use half the items/spells she picks up on any other champ spell thief is broken. Imaging trying to run from olaf but he picks up a flash or a ghostblade. Or your getting dove by a volibear and he picks up a goredrinker or aghost or hell even just your flash. Anyone else spellthief is 1000% broken

    • @longbread3593
      @longbread3593 Рік тому

      In the case of theory crafting (Which is what the video is about) Zoe q is godlike. You could easily have xerath passive, zoe q, lb w, zoe e and lb ult then your have a spammable nuke that costs no mana and can hit you from two screens away plus you cant kill the person hitting you with the nuke since they just tp back to where they started.
      I do agree with the zoe w thing but mages dont exactly have the best w's in the game.

    • @davidkiknavelidze2130
      @davidkiknavelidze2130 Рік тому +2

      @@bsbuster8469 Not exactly. While I agree Zoe's w would be very strong on divers and such this video is clearly talking about choosing best abilities within mages to give to other mages and not other classes and I don't see other mages using spellthief better than Zoe, at least significantly better.

    • @davidkiknavelidze2130
      @davidkiknavelidze2130 Рік тому

      @@longbread3593 You wrote: " your have a spammable nuke that costs no mana and can hit you from two screens away plus you cant kill the person hitting you with the nuke since they just tp back to where they started." That's literally Zoe's current kit, except it's even worse, as you don't have w and passive for some extra utility/damage, also you can even change Zoe's q with other abilities, that are hard to hit but have high ap scaling and may be provide something else other than damage and the outcome will be the same. So, overall I don't quit understand your point. Sure, maybe there is some ability that would make Zoe's q in combination more powerful, but you can say that about literally every ability there is.

  • @GrimoireM
    @GrimoireM Рік тому +12

    For me the following loadout is the best amongst all the mages:
    Passive: Annie - Pyromania: Stun locks are basically possible. You'll see.
    Q: Ryze - Overload: Almost all of Ryze's power is wrapped up in this single ability. Including, most importantly, the reset mechanic. If we can just get a nice low cooldown ability to combine with this we can get there. There are a lot of low cooldown Ws to pick from to work here but I'm gonna skip over them for the best E.
    E: Cassiopeia: Oh hello 0.75s Cooldown ability we like you. The combined cast time of this and Ryze Q is shorter than the cooldown too, so mash to your heart's content. Total time to proc Pyromania is 1.5s. So they'd better have tenacity and you'd better have good hands. Honorable Mention to Ahri W, Anivia E, and Syndra Q, all of which fell short purely due to this interaction.
    W: Leblanc - Distortion: As mentioned this is amazing. I think on this kit the fact its waveclear and engage/disengage and becomes a consistent setup for your stunlock is super important. You can't ask for more than this. Lissandra W is also useful as an intermediary lock piece but this does too many other things to ignore here.
    R: Twisted Fate - Destiny: Speaking of consistency, how about we become a split-push monster and the best pick champion in the game, while dealing with those pesky stealth champions in one go? This does everything Distortion does on a macro level, if that makes sense. Even the stun if you count the reveal as an effect that can proc it (I think it's good enough even without that). I considered Anivia ult but really all it adds is waveclear and an ability that doesn't explicitly use Pyromania. Mimic is also good but without three strong basic abilities to mimic I don't see as much of a point to it.
    With mage champions there's so many empowered ability mechanics that are mutually exclusive it kind of begs the question on whether to include those forms as long as you have access to some mechanic that opens them up. I think it could be worth exploring the whole set again under such conditions as I think it opens up Karma and Viktor, who do not have good kits for this thought experiment.

    • @novaseer
      @novaseer Рік тому

      You, my friend, are a psychopath.
      I love it.

    • @Onefishytbd
      @Onefishytbd Рік тому

      Yes but there’s one thing that ruins your build ryze q only resets with ryze w and e. in my opinion this is objectively the best mage you can make
      Veigar passive
      Infinite ap this is really good with some spamable abilities
      Karthus q
      Oh look a spamable ability but it does cost a lot of mana I wonder how we fix that
      Twisted fate w
      Oh infinite mana and a point and click stun don’t mind it I do. Now back to spamable abilities
      Cassio e
      So much ap what am I going to do with all this, oh I know
      Karthus r
      PENTAKILL

    • @GrimoireM
      @GrimoireM Рік тому +1

      @@Onefishytbd Incorrect. Reread Ryze's Q. The reset passive is on it, and it only checks that you have other basic abilities to cast, which isn't explicitly defined as Rune Prison or Spell Flux. Any non-toggle ability counts here. Speaking of:
      Phenomenal Evil Power optimization depends entirely on what types of damage apply it or not. If DoTs do proc Veigar passive per tick then nothing you listed would even appear on the list, not even Karthus Ult, as Defile, Vladimir Pool, Anivia Ult, and Rumble's Flamespitter are just that damned good. And you can make good cases for every part of Malzahar's kit since it's possible his minions proc stacks for you on hit.
      If not (which I think is a reasonable assumption), then Taliyah Q, Ahri's W and Ult, and Ziggs' E all offer better rates and give you some actual value beyond procing the passive (Though if we're talking consistency Ahri's W is as good as that'll get). Cassio's E is atrocious on damage without her poisons and only works on my above kit because it holds the enemy down forever for Ryze Q to deal the actual damage. Hell you can just use Leblanc's entire kit if you wanted to because it's consistent at building champion procs AND getting kills. It solves her scaling problem too.
      TF's Pick A Card is also terrible for mana. It doesn't restore more mana than it costs at base, only restores 50 per 6s at max, and it counts as auto-attack damage. It is pointless for anything beyond crowd control and waveclear 90% of the time. You need Defile for Mana regen and if you're running Defile for the mana you're not running Twin Fangs, and without that you don't have a consistent way to farm AP! You also really suck at actually killing people.
      Again, Ryze Q and Cassio E still has the best spam potential as I described earlier. You want to burst people down and farm them for AP? Guess what my kit does, for the low low price of swapping the passive!
      The only reason I didn't pick Veigar passive is because I like actually being able to kill my opponents in the first place and Pyromania guarantees they can't kill you first no matter what you build. Karthus Ult also suffers from the problem of Banshee's Veil and Zhonya's existing, but I'll concede that if you get far enough into the game you can make it oneshot. Good luck getting there without Baleful Strike.

    • @Onefishytbd
      @Onefishytbd Рік тому

      @@GrimoireM I agree with some of your points and have changed my build in two ways
      Vladimir q
      This is because Vladimir q removes your mana bar so your ability’s no longer cost mana also extra sustain
      And Cassio w
      Poison for e plus lockdown and at the low low cost of 0 mana
      (The removing mana thing is purely opinion based and it is my opinion that that is how it would work you may disagree and that’s fine)
      Also huh I didn’t know that about ryze q thank you for informing me

    • @Onefishytbd
      @Onefishytbd Рік тому

      Oh also I forgot to add that forcing everyone on the enemy team to build an an item that might be pretty bad on them is pretty strong but I guess you could swap it with another ulti if your that worried about spell shields and zhonyas
      (Also with a little bit of ability haste your ult cooldown will be lower than zhonyas)

  • @theurak1311
    @theurak1311 Рік тому +15

    I'm surprised you didn't mention Vlad's ult.
    Big damage boost with extra magic damage on whoever it touches with big damage at the end
    Big sustain burst which is good for squishy mages. It doesn't have super lockdown synergy but just those 3 things alone is super good.

    • @Dregomz02
      @Dregomz02 Рік тому +2

      And Rumble's Q it has one of highest potential for dmg of all non ult spells in the game, top liners are always unprepared and think that they can outdamage Rumble, never underestimate Rumble.

    • @theurak1311
      @theurak1311 Рік тому +1

      @@Dregomz02 It's good but it has pretty low range all things considered. Although with the double cast from seraphine passive or Leblanc r it would probably melt anything five times over in 3 seconds. It's a very good ability for sure.

  • @landracula5463
    @landracula5463 Рік тому +5

    Could you , at the end of the video , give us 2 (maaaybe 3?) builds with the abilities you chose with different playstyles/gimmicks , something like :
    1 : P - Stage presence , Q - ? , W - ? , E -? , R - Mimic , for insane bs os shenanigans !
    2 : P - ? , Q - ? , W - Pick a card , E - Event horizon , R - The Equalizer , to literally suck the life & fun of your ennemies !
    Anyways good video keep it up !

  • @moopey1837
    @moopey1837 Рік тому +5

    I love these videos, love the speculation of finding the best abilities in each position and also taking into account the best abilities from other positions, kinda like making "the perfect" champion. Just a small correction though, Xerath's Q, is not a projectile.

  • @garou9914
    @garou9914 Рік тому +15

    I think the reworked Swain ult or e should have an honorable mention. The ult is indefinite life steal, and burst that Keeps getting stronger each time it's recasted (with it doing dmg and lowering the CD on his stuff), his E could be a 5 man root and pull if used right.

    • @aquasnippy
      @aquasnippy Рік тому

      Veigar e is just way easier and better than swain e and more range and uptime

    • @garou9914
      @garou9914 Рік тому

      @@aquasnippy yeah I didn't say it's better than veigar, it's better than lux and neeko tho.

    • @Onefishytbd
      @Onefishytbd Рік тому

      @@garou9914 i dont think its better than neeko because its forced to be mid ranged so if there happens to be a minion behind then its useless

    • @garou9914
      @garou9914 Рік тому

      @@Onefishytbd I mean neeko has the same issue more or less.

    • @user-gx6tu3mf4k
      @user-gx6tu3mf4k Рік тому

      @@garou9914 neekos root empowers after hitting the first target, getting faster and larger, making it pretty easy to hit at even it's max range if you stand up against a minion.

  • @Illandarr
    @Illandarr Рік тому +13

    I was really surprised when I didn't see Aurelion Sol's E in the best abilities. It's basically a free TP/TF ult on a basic ability. In laning phase it allows you to back and quickly go back to lane, making back recalls way less punishing. Also by simply going in fog of war you force the enemy to play safer if they don't want to risk a being ganked. In the mid game you can be clearing side lanes and still threaten to come to a baron/dragon fight since this ability has such a high range

    • @els236
      @els236 Рік тому

      I was also quite surprised honestly, although who tf plays Aurelion after how Rito butchered him ?

    • @halycon404
      @halycon404 Рік тому

      @@els236 During 12.10... lots of people. A'Sol was one of the winners. Not a big winner. But he's overall better than he was. Considering A'Sol is a champion that's always been borderline busted by people who one trick him, he's doing rather well right now. At least by them. Other people... well.. they've got a learning curve ahead of them.

  • @davidhernandez3945
    @davidhernandez3945 Рік тому +6

    I think is INSANE he didn't include Veigar pasive. Imagine the damage all mages could do with that pasive. And yeah, I know that the q stacks would not exist, but geting ap for poking enemies I think es more than enougth.

    • @awesomefuzz4008
      @awesomefuzz4008 Рік тому +1

      Don't forget 5 stacks for kills and assists! Even a pretty mediocre game with a 4/6/4 KDA nets you 40AP by the end.

    • @davidhernandez3945
      @davidhernandez3945 Рік тому

      @@awesomefuzz4008 lol I totally forgot, even better

    • @aquasnippy
      @aquasnippy Рік тому

      You could also just pair it with his normal q anyways and then a spammable ability like cass e, and twisted fate card to let you spam more and stack up. Then you can use karthus ult and one shot everyone

  • @harrycchambers
    @harrycchambers Рік тому +1

    One of my fave mages, Vel’Koz, rightly doesn’t make this video since their abilities suck in a vacuum, but together they have great synergy. Would love to see a longer, more casual video where you just talk about each mage and make a tier list about their design or something of the sort.

  • @adambryant4149
    @adambryant4149 Рік тому +2

    Because there are 3 subclasses of Mage, I'm going to make 3 different characters. I'm not going for most overpowered, but I'm going for fairly strong.
    Artillery Mage -
    Range - Varus (575)
    Passive - Ziggs (Short Fuse)
    Q - Xerath (Arcanopulse)
    W - Jayce (Thundering Blow)
    E - Vel'Koz (Void Rift)
    R - Lux (Final Spark)
    I had to use everyone here because there are only 6 Artillery Mages. I figured with the longest base range I could make it, that Zigg's passive would be the most beneficial out of anyone, maybe other than Lux. I wasn't giving up Lux's ultimate though. Jayce's W restores mana with a basic attack and scales off AP so it actually does a fair bit of damage if you get dove. I figured Void Rift was more reliable to land than Xerath's E, and Xerath's Q is easily the best poke tool in the game anyways. If this champion ever gets low on mana, they can auto something to restore a bit of mana and do extra damage.
    Battlemage -
    Range - Multiple Champions (550)
    Passive - Malzahar
    Q - Anivia (Flash Frost)
    W - Vladimir (Sanguine Pool)
    E - Cassiopeia (Twin Fang)
    R - Swain (Demonic Ascension/Demonflare)
    This one was made so they could easily get into a fight with a shield and a long-range stun. They can also easily stay in a fight with their ultimate and E healing them, and the W giving them a free dodge or escape. I wanted to use Viktor's E, but the upgraded version comes from the passive.
    Burst Mage -
    Range - Annie (600)
    Passive - Veigar (Phenomenal Evil Power)
    Q - Lissandra (Ice Shard)
    W - Twisted Fate (Pick a Card)
    E - Lux (Lucent Singularity)
    R - Ahri (Spirit Rush)
    I'm not sorry about this one. I'm not exactly sure how PEP stacks with abilities that hit multiple times or recasts, but I assuming every cast is what matters. Which means that This champion's R will give 3 guaranteed stacks, the E will give 2 stacks, and you can get an easy stack with a 600 range Pick a Card. Spirit Rush will also put you in range for a buffered Pick a Card.

  • @winneksen9621
    @winneksen9621 Рік тому +2

    Cassio's passive is slept on. You get movement speed per level AND a free item slot. Mages would love 6 items to be either tanky as shit or blowing up everyone

  • @NStormRider
    @NStormRider Рік тому +1

    Forgive me for thinking of Zilean as a Mage even though he has been reclassed as a specialist. But when you get to them, keep his abilities in mind. His W shaves 10s off both his other basic ability's cooldowns... Resetting them for a huge number of other champs, especially once abilities are levelled and haste items bought. And his q does big damage (300 + 90% AP at 5) provides vision, does AoE damage, intimidates pursuers, ignores terrain, and even latches to stealthed enemies. It has its drawbacks as a mid range ability and a slower travel time, but even without the double-stun it hurts.
    Screw his passive though.

  • @blueqion9488
    @blueqion9488 Рік тому +1

    Did you just forget about Karthus while speaking about the ultimates? Just imagine a mage sitting in base pressing 1 button and killing an entire team with it but this time it's Veigar and he built full AP and has 1500 AP and not even the tank is save

  • @jarenbladedancer6778
    @jarenbladedancer6778 Рік тому +3

    I was almost going to say i was missing Sylas W, but at the end of the day... it's bad for mages because barely any of them want to be in melee. But i'll guess it could come up in the Assassins Video, as they can probably benefit immensly.

  • @GarnetDust24
    @GarnetDust24 Рік тому +3

    Loved seeing my favs zoe, seraphine and LeB getting so much attention in this!

  • @shilohmagic7173
    @shilohmagic7173 Рік тому

    I sure do love being a zoe main!
    XD
    Like, thinking about it, yeah, high power budget investment Q, extreme versatility W, and E range of walls, not to mention the sleeping indicator which lillia’s ult DOESNT have.
    I like being a zoe main. So much fun.

  • @watsonjunior85
    @watsonjunior85 Рік тому +5

    I was sure he would at least mention Vergara passive since its free AP but after some thought I realized that without some spamable ability it would take forever to stack

    • @christiangreff5764
      @christiangreff5764 Рік тому +1

      Ah, yeah, the "in a vacuum" clause striking down the things that would be totally broken, but only in specific combinations.
      Also, the "within one class" restriction; Yuumi's W is bad enough on Yuumi, without freely adding Mage abilities like an Annie passive and a Cassiopeia E XD

  • @Lorenz0801
    @Lorenz0801 Рік тому +5

    Veigars passive is the best so that all other mages can scale infinitely especially for the heroes with low cool down

  • @faderizen6418
    @faderizen6418 Рік тому

    this video reminded me of my favorite game mode in Dota 2 when I used to play it
    basically you'd pick a champ but he would only have one of his abilities and everything else would be random abilities from other champs and that created some hilarious moments like Zeus having Tinker ultimates and his scepter ability which meant he was doing aoe damage done over the map every single second from base LMAO
    hopefully Riot gives us a similar game mode one day cause that would be absolutely crazy
    the ruination game mode giving us a single ultimate from 3 different champs was crazy fun so you can imagine how fun this would be

  • @yumfi4083
    @yumfi4083 Рік тому

    Ziggs W is crazy, it works as an escape, as a damaging tool, and as a catching ability, ziggs doesnt usually use his w to catch people because he doesnt want to get close to the enemies, but in other champions its a cheap gragas ult that also works as a jump.
    And I havent talked about the fact that it can execute towers

  • @allanho1772
    @allanho1772 Рік тому

    Because of its heavily telegraphed nature, Karthus R Requiem may not be as good but it would benefit from the hypothetical Annie Passive Pyromania which would be nice against those who don't have a way to block it. I'm glad you gave it an honorable mention.
    I was thinking you'd mention Ahri ult but yeah it's not as impactful as the other abilities. Still, Annie P w Ahri R sounds annoying.
    I think I'd say Seraphine P would my choice for strongest passive, but now I gotta brainstorm what I'd combine with it.

  • @popipo1104
    @popipo1104 Рік тому +1

    i think you missed the potential of some things, mainly veigar's passive, its such a big ap battery and there are a lot of abilities that are balanced around being in a character that doesnt get to build a lot of ap, but somethings like neeko's q or ult (has like 120%ap scaling) that could be delivered by le blanc's w (wich also has a good %ap) or vex w that gives you a big ass shield depending on your ap can get really out of control

  • @krzycki9688
    @krzycki9688 Рік тому +1

    I'd say that fiddlesticks ult on veigar would be the best ult in the game purely because of synergy between veigar's infinite ap scaling and ap scaling % on fiddlestick's ult, you can do 4k dmg on your ult with like 700 ap, but veigar in lategame can hit even 1400 ap, so something like 8k damage over 5 seconds would be borderline "no counterplay" if your team could help you set up 5 man ult

  • @owo4470
    @owo4470 Рік тому +1

    seraphines first pasive is also actually pretty strong, since at max notes you literally have the ability to hit anyone with a lich empwoered passive anywhere

  • @Finn3h
    @Finn3h Рік тому

    Build a champ game mode could be super fun for a few days, you could theory craft some monstrous champions with the abilities currently in the game

  • @koibiscuitspog336
    @koibiscuitspog336 Рік тому +12

    Best passive has to be veigar's. There's no other one i can think of that tops it.

    • @bellowheaty1228
      @bellowheaty1228 Рік тому

      you need low cd spammable abilities to utilize it, if cooldowns are long it's not that great

    • @hugodavies5555
      @hugodavies5555 Рік тому

      This with cassiopea would be peak

    • @tktheriverking4810
      @tktheriverking4810 Рік тому +1

      @@hugodavies5555 i think karthus is bettet

    • @koibiscuitspog336
      @koibiscuitspog336 Рік тому

      @@bellowheaty1228 Just buy Night Harvester or Liandry's Anguish. They give ability haste and include it in their mythic passive.

    • @fitmotheyap
      @fitmotheyap Рік тому

      Veigar passive
      Morg Q
      Leblanc W or any other mobility ability
      Cass E
      Karthus R

  • @Vaslaganum
    @Vaslaganum Рік тому

    I am absolutely salivating at the idea of viktor with leblanc ult and seraphine passive pressing q on somebody and erasing their entire family tree with the triple empowered auto

  • @VictorGabriel-wr4jm
    @VictorGabriel-wr4jm Рік тому +1

    I feel like Zoe's ultimate still makes the list solely for the fact that it still allows basic abilities to be cast before warping you back. Take the strongest mage basic abilities in the game and give them an extra ~600 boost to their range and make them even more insane. Imagine the sheer amount of pressure Veigar's E makes on the enemy team knowing they can be caged from miles away. Xerath Q but with 2000 range. TF's Wild Card as basic attacks can also be made before warping back. And it's on a cooldown low enough that it can easily be abused multiple times in a single fight on late game.

  • @sorenanaghibzade5446
    @sorenanaghibzade5446 Рік тому +3

    I think azir and xerath ultimates could be in this list since azir ult have the potential of winning team fights if casts correctly and xerath ultimate I think because you can choice were to hit every shot you don't need to lock down anything or something you just need to predict correctly
    it was very nice video thanks for this nice contents

    • @mannyvalerio6822
      @mannyvalerio6822 Рік тому

      Azir's ult needs Azir's kit, or something similar. Give him Distortion and we're talking.

    • @cindermoth3421
      @cindermoth3421 Рік тому +1

      Problem being that Xerath ultimate can be dodged quite easily if the enemy has any form of mobility, be it dashes, blinks, or simple movespeed bonus. It has very high range, very good damage, and you can target multiple enemies, but hitting all of is not that easy against competent enemies.

  • @happycamperds9917
    @happycamperds9917 Рік тому +1

    If Vel'Koz passive is interpreted as making any ultimate do true damage, than I think it is a contender for best. Imagine that on Anivia who could build stacks very easily.

  • @zarekodynski9077
    @zarekodynski9077 Рік тому

    I think it would be an added interest if you were to add your personal favorite combination of the abilities you picked. I know it sort of makes you really pick 1 best ability in each slot. But I think it would be neat to hear your idea.

  • @knigo7967
    @knigo7967 Рік тому +2

    honestly a doubblecast on taliah q qouldnt be so bad after the rework, since you get a slow and can again hit all of the rocks pretty easily

  • @BrontiThor
    @BrontiThor Рік тому

    Personally, I think the most OP ulti and passive combo you can make for a mage would be Seraphine passive and Leblanc Ulti.
    It would open up various combos, such as Empowering your ability with your R before casting a passive charged Q, throwing two higher than normal damage abilities, or you could use it immediately after the passive double cast to cast three in rapid succession.
    Honestly, you could throw any decent q,w, and e into a kit with that passive and ulti combo, and the result would be nasty.

  • @awesomefuzz4008
    @awesomefuzz4008 Рік тому

    Some combos:
    Annie passive + Karthus ult: Disastrous consequences for every enemy once you hit 6. 3s of warning before a 1.5s stun for every enemy makes for ludicrous mapwide pressure.
    Veigar passive + Taliyah Q + Twisted Fate W + Ziggs E + Karthus R: AP stacking at ludicrous speed thanks to WEQ combos (8+ stacks per combo), mana sustain to spam harder, and three huge payoffs for stacking AP, with Q's 130%, W's theoretical over 200%, and of course Requiem combined with Veigar passive, as seen in Ultimate Spellbook oneshotting ADCs. Spellshields do exist, but if your only protection from losing 50% or more of your health at any time is on a 40s CD, costs a full item, and can be knocked off by any ability, it's still a huge threat.
    Vel'Koz P + Taliyah Q + Xerath W + Ziggs E + Seraphine R: 3-hit massive true damage is pretty strong, particularly when it's combined with a lot more multi-hit abilities. Xerath W is there for a strong waveclear and poke option, not to mention a pretty substantial slow if you hit the sweetspot.

  • @codyschulte9649
    @codyschulte9649 Рік тому +1

    I'm sad that encore was placed so high, but Heimer's Ult wasn't even mentioned, I know it's different but can you simply imagine upgrading any other mages abilities that equal out to more than 3x the effectiveness?? Like a zoe bubble now having a longer duration with a bigger AOE, or paddle star doing veigar Ult amounts of damage because you hit a second button first, just to name a few examples, I always thought most of Heim's power budget was in his Ult and giving it to other casters seems bananas personally

  • @hovhannes5
    @hovhannes5 Рік тому

    I suppose it depends a bit on how you see this ability with regards to upgrading it, but viktor laser should be at least mentioned. Might be worth taking his passive for even, if you feel that is required to have the full ability. Flashfrost, miasma, death ray, glacial storm would be... hard to play versus.

  • @SkavenXTwitch
    @SkavenXTwitch Рік тому +1

    Ruot should honestly add a gamemode where everyone can combine all champs abilities and design their own champs it would make for a lot of fun i think

  • @janstraka8674
    @janstraka8674 Рік тому +4

    Ahri ult not being mentioned makes me sad. 3 flashes on low CD balanced by Ahri´s low damage.

    • @TomatoesArentReal
      @TomatoesArentReal Рік тому

      ahris low damage.. yeah.. its a different story when you get charmed though

    • @VioletLunaChan
      @VioletLunaChan Рік тому +1

      @@TomatoesArentReal They took the damage amp out quite a while ago

    • @janstraka8674
      @janstraka8674 Рік тому +2

      @@TomatoesArentReal Ahri has low damage compared to other mages to offset her superior mobility. Ahri compares poorly in damage to Syndra, Veigar or Viktor.

  • @lantami1199
    @lantami1199 Рік тому

    4:15 Small correction: Xerath Q isn't a projectile, meaning it can't be blocked by Windwall and others like it

  • @Cheasle2
    @Cheasle2 Рік тому

    also should be mentioned if you take Seraphine passive and Twisted Fate W, the extended range on her autos would help massively with using the cards. Imagine point and click stunning someone with a 1025 range auto.

  • @SeniorEhec
    @SeniorEhec Рік тому

    In my opinion you guys underestimate the possibilities the Karthus E can bring being combinated with alot of passives. Ofc its a damage over time ability, but it can be toggled off/on really quickly with a >1 second cooldown. So it would count as a single ability every time its toggled on. If you combine this with a passive like Brand, Veigar, Annie, VelKoz it can lead to the most devastating teamfight combos I can imagine. If you also add LeBlanc W you would have a nice way to always be in the right place in the teamfight

  • @user-ck1ib6zn7b
    @user-ck1ib6zn7b Рік тому +1

    Veig passive with any spammable ability or point click/long ranged ones would be stressful to face

  • @no.5689
    @no.5689 Рік тому +1

    (correct me if I'm talking about the wrong ability) Cassiopeia's passive or rather not needing boots. Having a whole free item spot without loosing any MS since she gains it throughout the game is so unimaginably good. Ah how i wish i could buy an actual 6th item on all champs like her.
    (If I'm wrong about everything, I've not read her stats nor ability descriptions so i may be spilling total bullshit but I'm trying to talk about what i at least think Cassiopeia does)

  • @KyleRandomnes
    @KyleRandomnes Рік тому

    Gonna have to say the karthus ult plus Seraphine passive could be really annoying for enemy teams. Would be fun to watch as they enter a team fight and left Running away before each team fight. Could get some high value from that combo very quickly

  • @syndexadbt4176
    @syndexadbt4176 Рік тому +4

    This series makes me wish that dota's ability draft was a gamemode in league (closest we got was ultimate spellbook i guess)

    • @fitmotheyap
      @fitmotheyap Рік тому

      We probably won't cus spellbook is good enough for rito

  • @hsquid8483
    @hsquid8483 Рік тому

    I think i would go with
    Passive : Stage Presence (Seraphine)
    Q : Time bomb (Zilean) similar to paddle star, zilean's Q is his only damage, and this has a higher power budget. With stage presence, this also guarantees the double bomb stun, and generally provides a strong waveclear.
    W : Zilean's W (turns out, getting a 10s refresh on all basic abilities plus a cast for stage presence is great). If you include seraphine, then zilean is also a mage.
    E : Veigar's Event Horizon. No explanation needed, but an ability that is gated by its long CD getting it more than halved with Zil's W is gross. Also, you can place it in a way opponents get stunned by it spawning, so it synergises well with the Q
    R : either Lissandra's Frozen Tomb, for an offensive ultimate that still allows for chain CC or defensive stalling, or Zilean's ultimate because reviving people is funny

  • @kos_
    @kos_ Рік тому +1

    I think Veigar passive on a champ like Cass would be insane. Or any fast casting champ like Ryze.

  • @tsunamininja
    @tsunamininja Рік тому +1

    Ok but what if you made your mage into an auto attacking focused battle mage?
    Orianna passive for ramping magic damage onhit
    Vladimir Q for sustain and movespeed on 3rd cast
    Neeko W for onhit on every 3rd auto and ms (+ clone and ms active)
    TF E for attack speed and onhit every 4th auto
    Swain R for AOE damage/heal, no unit collision and big AOE burst for finishing people off.

  • @ascvb3
    @ascvb3 Рік тому

    3.75 Second Stun with 1625 (+225% AP) magic damage :
    Kennen Passive - Stun for 1.25 seconds every 3 ticks of ability dmg, down to .5 seconds for repeated stuns.
    Fiddlesticks R - Blink into massive AOE ult with 20 ticks (1625 total magic damage) with 225% AP scaling.

  • @brendan8114
    @brendan8114 Рік тому

    i'd say the most terrifying combination of ALL abilities, not just mages would be
    Passive: Kled - a bunch of extra health, a bunch of extra movespeed(kled's base movespeed is like 300, it's his passive that gives him the bonus to be a normal champ movespeed, put that on someone else and they are walking around with like 500 movespeed) and even when passive is off you get extra movespeed towards enemies(same point), and also, hinting to the rest of this terrifying kit, when knocked off skaarl, you go untargetable, you can also get skaarl back to get yourself a burst of essentially healing for over half your health.
    Q: Master yi - dash, aoe or single target,apply on hits, lowers it's cd on basic attacks, and again, untargetable
    w: Vladimir - i think you might be getting it now, untargetable, aoe slow, repositioning, heals a bit of the health back that you spent to cast it
    e: Fizz - aoe slow, untargetable, dash, you get the point
    r: Lissandra - aoe slow, untargetable, healing, OR stun, aoe slow
    rush a zhonya's and enjoy being immortal forever as you just juggle your cds

  • @paftaq526
    @paftaq526 Рік тому +1

    if we're going with what the league client says are mages then i would pick
    passive: karma. reducing your ult cd with dmg abilities is kinda broken
    q: ezreal, great synergy with karma passive. it doesn't have good ap scaling but with sheen its still good dmg. it also reduces basic ability cd
    w: tf. just makes sense
    e: malzahar. basically infinite duration if i can land q
    ult: either karthus ult, cho'gath ult or ahri ult

  • @incognito5260
    @incognito5260 Рік тому

    P - Stage Presence (Seraphine)
    Q - Paddlestar (Zoe)
    W - Distortion (LeBlanc)
    E - Event Horizon (Veigar)
    R - Pop Blossom (Neeko)
    Just stun the enemy team with Event Horizon, press R, dash in with Distortion (which hits twice because of passive) and your ulti activates. Paddlestar is for lane harassing or obliterating them if they are hit by E

  • @tyr_4941
    @tyr_4941 Рік тому

    Personally, I would need to know if Veigars passive would stack everytime a dot spell would tick on an enemy, before being able to make a proper judgment. If it would that alone would combo into oblivion not even factoring in maybe a Karthus ult

  • @jeanc.gestevo1013
    @jeanc.gestevo1013 Рік тому

    P: veigar infinity AP scaling
    Q: ryze overload (reset on W/E cast)
    W: Leblanc for the mobility
    E: Cassiopeia (low cool down targeted ability for sinergy
    R: Annie's tibers AOE high burst damage with subsequent DOT and can block projectiles

  • @antsydynasty7330
    @antsydynasty7330 Рік тому

    Really hope rito would consider experimenting making new gamemodes like Dotas ability draft.
    Yes it's unbalanced. But it would be fun as heck imagine all the spells you can combo with. Imagine having an ornn with irelia q sylas w and akshan e with chogath ult

  • @protencya2150
    @protencya2150 Рік тому

    When i saw the vid i instantly tought velkoz passive anivia ult and veigar cage but i can see why you would want cc at passive instead of true damage

  • @FredProdc
    @FredProdc Рік тому

    Le blanc's ultimate in a champion with seraphine's passive. You can do an ability 3x in a single second. Imagine a fully charged arcanopulse times 3. Massive damage from a safe distance with 0 draw backs

  • @likeworks
    @likeworks 11 місяців тому

    Can't believe he didn't mention the combo of Annie passive + karthus ult. Highly telegraphed but it would be a 5man 1.75s stun. And if you can't see karthus you never know if he has the stun prepared or not.

  • @Shyama7015
    @Shyama7015 Рік тому

    Stage presence, lux Q, pick a card, sleepy trouble bubble and mimic + ever frost. It's like a permanent CC combo. Have fun lol

  • @motivatedpotato6604
    @motivatedpotato6604 Рік тому +1

    i think the best combination of mage abilities would be P:Veigar; Q:Karthus; W:Twisted Fate; E:Annie; R:Twisted Fate; so it may not look like much but this kit would be broken from a single fact that veigar's passive scales with how many abilities he hits enemy champions with, so combine it with point and click lock down, spammable q and e which grants trading power and ms and global teleport you can scale extremely quickly and assasinate every one on enemy team everywhere nearly from level two

    • @alex2005z
      @alex2005z Рік тому +1

      Wouldnt something that allows you to hit People more often be better? Like cassio e instead of annie e and some other q? Like talyah?

    • @motivatedpotato6604
      @motivatedpotato6604 Рік тому

      Nope, cass e is only good if you poison enemies other than that it does shit dmg whole game, annie e works for this potential mage like riven e, especially since shield also dishes out counter dmg to whoever is attacking this potential champion, and karthus's q has extremely low cooldown, has bonus dmg on isolated targets without need of other abilties and can attack multiple opponents at once anyway, unlike cass e.

  • @crazyMLC
    @crazyMLC Рік тому

    Just imagine Veigar passive with Karthus ult. Vex and Seraphine's passives only work on basic abilities, so not only is it the best way to empower Karthus ult in this ruleset, it also gives 5 ap per cast, barring spell shields/stopwatch.
    Another important passive is Ziggs'. It's basically free lich bane, with bonus damage to turrets. Any mage would want it to be able to pressure towers when the enemy laner roams, or just to burst squishies with TF W and E for example. (445 + 190% AP + 100% AD + 75% base AD in one blue card) It's also an easy pairing with Cassiopeia E, as she could just instantly take a turret on a whim by just mashing E on nearby minions to reset the cooldown.

  • @yoitsgunattack
    @yoitsgunattack Рік тому

    ok i got one annie passive, Xerath Q, veigar W, Cass E, Ahri R. The early game is extremely safe with veigars cage and farming from long range with xerath Q. Tower diving would just not be possible with cass E having a 0.75 cd meaning with 0 ability haste she is gonna be stunning for 1.25/1.5/1.75 every 2.25 seconds. With transcendence (the 10 ability haste rune) and crown (20 ability haste) her E will have a 0.58 cd resulting in a permeant stun. It would have the best pick protentional being able to sudo gold card from 2650 (rumble ult is 2700). teamfights would be decided rapidly with ahri ult into xerath stunning the team then caging them for the follow up from team. If the is any single wincondition (fed kassadin for example) the E perma stun will make it impossible to escape. It would basically have 0 weaknesses. You cant out range, you cant escape, you cant run and with crown you cant even burst before your perm stunned meaning the is literally no chance past first item of her ever dying to someone ever again with extreme pick protentional when the team is behind and back breaking engage that is basically impossible to deal with even if they see it coming she can 100% of the time get the main target with R into cass E for a stun followed up by a cage even if the other 4 escape that player is dead 100%.
    I think the runes would be conq, presence of mind, legend tenacity, coup de grace with transcendance, and manaflow band in sorcery as i see the mana being the core weakness, for minors cdr, ap and armor/mr depending on comp.
    Build: tear > cdr boots (she will have 28 haste if you got these pre 5 giving her E 0.59 just enough to not be perm stun at level 5 it will) from here you can just flash E stun lock until dead to win lane.
    Then crown to make you burst proof, finish seraphs embrace.
    If the game magically hasnt ended from these 3 items I would go rylies to make ult slow to make it even harder to escape and then void staff and deathcap for damage or if your bored and wanan try hard, gargoyle stoneplate into warmogs.

  • @Dravignor
    @Dravignor Рік тому

    What about Vel'Koz passive? True damage every 3rd ability is pretty broken considering how you talked about LeBlanc R in the video as well.

  • @ThatguyakaPeter
    @ThatguyakaPeter Рік тому +1

    I would go with Annie passive + Lux Q + Cassio W and E + Rumble R. Think of how broken Cassio would be if every fourth E stunned

  • @cephalonbob15
    @cephalonbob15 Рік тому

    My idea for the ultime poke mage
    Passive: brand or veigar, one for infinite AP, the other for the 3 circle burn and max hp dmg.
    Q: Xerath Q
    W: TF w for infinite mana and stun to set up a trade combo
    E: viktor e
    ult: Corki

  • @Tac0boss
    @Tac0boss Рік тому

    If fiddlesticks is considered a mage, I think either his Q, or ultimate could be in the OP category.
    If a mage had the echo ability to cast it twice and had fiddles Q that is a fear + the bonus %health damage. in addition, the Q has the passive to fear an enemy if the spell was casted without vision, putting that on other champs would be pretty strong IMO. Having Karthus ult with a fiddle Q that no one can see could cause the entire enemy team to be feared without ever being there.

  • @aMakyx
    @aMakyx Рік тому

    I thought of something funny
    Seraphine's Passive, Viktor's Evolved Laser and Le Blank's R, that together would give us 6 lasers and I think its really funny

  • @opughdyang8264
    @opughdyang8264 Рік тому +8

    Morgana's E is a 5 second Unstoppable basically. I personally believe it's an infinite value ability and should've at least been mentioned.

    • @andyrooo5515
      @andyrooo5515 Рік тому +2

      morgana is an enchanter no?

    • @popipo1104
      @popipo1104 Рік тому

      but shes not a mage, she's a catcher

    • @rattamytata1970
      @rattamytata1970 Рік тому +1

      I don't think it's very useful on a mage. It's just too defensive on a class that prefers ranged combat and wants to either poke or one shot. You don't need 5 seconds of cc immunity if you're rarely in range of any cc, or you can one shot. It's honestly usually far more effective when cast on someone else aside from Morgana, like high dps and/or people who want to go in

  • @alekss223
    @alekss223 Рік тому +4

    Imo syndras E needs a mention, even without passive and stun its by far the best disengage ability, arguably even better than event horizon

    • @Onefishytbd
      @Onefishytbd Рік тому

      it might be arguably better disengage but isnt veigars e like almost objectively the best zoning tool in the game and having the potential to get a 2.5 sec 5 man stun

    • @rotinvrede
      @rotinvrede Рік тому

      considering her E is only a knockback with a fairly small range untill you max it. the stun effect only comes with a ball. wich you wont have acces to. ye you knock people away. but considering most assasins or the people that you dont want in your melee range will have mobility its not a.. "huge" powerfull thing

    • @alekss223
      @alekss223 Рік тому

      @@Onefishytbd yeah but if they jump on u its bad

  • @m1thical_362
    @m1thical_362 Рік тому

    My pick would be:
    Passive: Veigar's "Phenomenal Evil Power". just great AP scaling
    Q: Karthus's "Lay Waste". low CD medium - high damage
    W: Brand's "Pillar of Flame".
    E: Vel'Koz's "Tectonic Disruption". CC skillshot
    R: LeBlanc's "Mimic".

  • @luna5694
    @luna5694 Рік тому

    I feel like since the mini Ahri re-work her ult may be an honorable mention due to the fact that mages are usually very immobile. Ahri's new ult not only already gives 3 dashes but also resets on takedowns. It'll be like taking predator on Veigar, ult in cage, cast rest of your abilities and ult out. Many mages would love a quick way to land their combo and get out more safely.

    • @hugocognie1784
      @hugocognie1784 Рік тому

      it resets only if ahri get a passive proc, so u need ahri r and passive (u can see that when sylas take her r, he only have 3 charges, no matter the kills or assists he get)

  • @ryanhobbs6407
    @ryanhobbs6407 Рік тому

    I mean... Veigar passive, Karthus Q, Leblanc W, Veigar E and Karthus Ult. An AOE damage spamming infinite scaling mage with an on demand dash and massive area defense tool with an ult that gives between 5 and 30 permeant ability power while also doing several hundred damage scaling forever to the entire enemy team.

  • @hi-i-am-atan
    @hi-i-am-atan Рік тому

    one thing i feel like noting is that it seems like you think pick a card would be ranged no matter the champion, even though it doesn't alter tf's range at all. in fact, the only thing is changes about the triggering attack is the damage, the appearance of the projectile, and swapping out the attack animation for a 0.25 second cast time - otherwise, a pick a card attack is identical in every way to tf's normal attack. so rumble would kinda suck with it, actually, since he'd have to walk up and actually smack a dude to apply it ... without scrap shield's move speed
    of course, that _does_ mean fun stuff with, say, annie's 625 attack range. and, y'know, vel's attack range is identical to tf's, but he also has the bonus of his _attacks hitting instantly, without a projectile ..._
    yeah, imagine vel pewpewing you and suddenly you're smacked with a ftl gold card. now break away from mages for a bit and imagine the same thing, but on _senna_

  • @Vektordeformacio
    @Vektordeformacio Рік тому

    if lissandra had Xerath passive or her old passive whiles her Q is traded for lux q.
    She only needs a bit more damage and a bit more range

  • @guilhemraboud7808
    @guilhemraboud7808 Рік тому

    If viegar get karthus ultimate. The enemy team have to end asap or viegar will kill them all with a button. Not only that but if he have the item that grants ult cd for enemy kills, it guarantee him to kill enemy in their fontaine the second they spawn

  • @jys_z4551
    @jys_z4551 Рік тому

    as a leblanc enjoyer i personally think the best mage abilities is leblancs entire kit but seraphine echo for the double mimic lol

  • @the_studier7306
    @the_studier7306 Рік тому +1

    Hear me out-
    veigar passive
    heimer q because every turret shot counts as an ability or with veigar pasive plus one AP
    Rumble w becuas shield + speed is OP with heimer turrets
    veigar e becuase op stun with heimer turrets is even more op
    heimer ult to get 3 powerfull ults

  • @vetu123
    @vetu123 Рік тому

    Could you make a video where you combine abilities from champions to construct the ultimate champion :P

  • @rotemh3622
    @rotemh3622 Рік тому

    while i believe that a cc that depends on amount of abilites sapamed is a good mechanice that also shows some skill, i think that for the BEST passive, i will go for veigar. it gives every mage infinite scaling and one of the strongest. it also works with poke, not just killing, which means if you take a spaming ability champion you will a really quick way into the mid and late game, which is where mages are doing ht best.

  • @IASSAASSAI
    @IASSAASSAI Рік тому

    I think passive wise Katarina would be the most op since it's a restart, lux root,Zoe spell thief and let Blanc double ability

  • @nikolaristicii-9995
    @nikolaristicii-9995 Рік тому +1

    I think the possibilities are endless here, but in the end, even if I could freely mix n match all these abilities... I would just make a better veigar.

  • @kenkaniff4209
    @kenkaniff4209 Рік тому

    Glad to see multiple Zoe abilities on this list. Am Zoe main and agree 😁👌🏽

  • @lkiyxrl1774
    @lkiyxrl1774 Рік тому

    annie passive, vlad q for sustain, leblanc w for mobility, cassiopeia e to proc annie passive ridiculously fast and great dps, and seraphime ult for team fight and just how good it is.