Honestly, even the most crap game nowadays is pretty decent, I feel the same about the recent Assassin's Creed games, I think the problem is more the value proposition, where the consumer feels like there is less polish in gameplay and dialogue, things that feel like they havent been considered and iterated enough juat to get the product out of the door. Not every game needs to be rdr2 detail and polish-wise of course but there is a happy medium to be found, otherwise the feeling of escapism gets lost and it will aways feel like a game. I think ghost of tsushima vs AC mirage is a good comparison, in ghost there is a strong direction to it all, yoi feel transported to that world and the wight of ckmbat and exploration make you feel like you are there, in AC mirage, althoigh the stealth mechanics and world are really well made, the actions and animations of yoour character feel fake, theres no weight, things dont connect correctly and the suspension of disbelief is lost. I dont think Star wars was bad but it definitely deserves the criticism it gets, it has a great world and art direction, but the combat and the day to day actions and animations like combat, walking, stealth dont quite feel realistic enough to fool the brain, giving it that gamey feeling, the heavy messaging is modern games also does not help simply because when you preach to people it takes then out of the experience, it does not make the game bad per se, but it does not live up to ita price in a industry that has those great examples of escapism, a game will always be judged by how people perceive its value and star wars just aint there dude, when it goes down to like 30-40 dolars I think its gonna be a steal of a game. The lesson for Ubi here is to let the devs cook more, and give their producers more power to get rheir vision out there while helpling then massage their messaging better in the narrative (look at metaphor:Refantazio for a good example of how to talk about a real life issue without preaching to the audience). The suits at Ubi need to be leashed so that the devs can do what they do best.
I agree with everything you said except the messaging. I haven't noticed anything like that in Outlaws, but by my estimation I'm only about halfway through the story, so that might change. Honestly I'd love it if studios kind of went back to the PSX/PS2 era, where now and again they'd form a small team, give them a decent budget, and let them explore the more out-there concepts; not intending to please the biggest demographic possible.
my issue is the games called star wars outlaws yet you cant actually well, be a outlaw. i mean you can take jobs from crime family's afaik but cant really do anything illegal outside of the few things that aren't common and not encouraged
That's a good point. I feel like if you had the same freedom as say, Red Dead Redemption 2, it might potentially stray too far from the story/Kay's established character. Could have been cool if it had a bit more of a Thief angle to it too.
Hey man I appreciate that you posted your opinion which is definitely in the minority It’s a dogshit opinion but I appreciate you posted it 😂 With these Disney SW projects that fall flat I’m voting with my wallet until things change I’ll stick with the bangers that already exist over a lot of these newer releases that in many ways do not hit the mark in many areas for me and most of the fan base The Jedi fallen order/survivor games are good though I will agree on that point 😊
I like your attitude man. Voting with your wallet is the right move, for both good and bad projects. I can definitely see why people are disillusioned with Disney SW. For me, TFA, Rogue One, and Solo were rad, but TLJ and TROS were awful. TROS was unforgivably bad. I still can't believe how badly they dropped the ball on that one. While I definitely think they're not all of the same standard, I really like all the live action Disney+ shows. The first two seasons of Mando in particular are up there with the best of the movies for me.
@ I see that we agree on more than I originally thought I think TFA while being a little safe abs not particularly adventurous with its plot line definitely set up for an interesting trilogy Which Disney then decided to swap directors which then took the next movie in an entirely different direction and then for the third movie swapped back to the original director which then had to waste the last movie trying to pull its self narrative wise “ back on course “ Along the way there were many inconsistencies re established lore Wasted characters and far too much gag humour Still mad we didn’t get a proper story for Finn Just got used well once and then promptly forgotten about for the other two movies
@@corditesniffer8020 Man I agree with literally everything you said. TFA isn't perfect, but there's a lot about it that I like, and when I first saw it, I was very hopeful for the rest of the trilogy. Then Rian Johnson rubbed his dick all over it, in what I can only describe as a massive ego trip. The analogy I use is music. Imagine the beginning of a song. Cool intro, first verse, first chorus. It's all building up in one direction. Then someone starts playing a completely different song midway through. Then finally, trying to bring it back to that first song again, while keeping elements of the second in the last chorus and outro. There's momentum and an overarching story to a trilogy, and Rian Johnson had a responsibility to the big picture to steward the story through the second act. It was a privilege to be able to create a mainline Star Wars movie, and he treated it like a chore.
@ And it certainly shows We got a grumpy old hermit Luke Skywalker Finn who was turned into a token black character Ray who was turned in the bestest ever Jedi Evers despite no hardship or training to earn it Kylo the moody teenager And the invincible Palpatine who somehow returns 😂 absolute tripe
@@corditesniffer8020 like the prequels, the biggest heartbreak is the wasted potential. I loved Rey when we were first introduced to her. This talented scavenger scraping out this miserable existence on a backwater world. Finn, the turncoat stormtrooper who understands just how ruthless the First Order really is, and who may or may not be force sensitive. Kylo, a traumatised kid manipulated by an evil power, and aspiring to an unreachable ideal set by his grandfather. What could have been...
I don't like all of it, but a lot of it is great. It cops an unnecessary amount of shit, probably because videos like "Disney SJWs Ruin Star Wars!!!1" seem to get a ton of views haha
Honestly, even the most crap game nowadays is pretty decent, I feel the same about the recent Assassin's Creed games, I think the problem is more the value proposition, where the consumer feels like there is less polish in gameplay and dialogue, things that feel like they havent been considered and iterated enough juat to get the product out of the door. Not every game needs to be rdr2 detail and polish-wise of course but there is a happy medium to be found, otherwise the feeling of escapism gets lost and it will aways feel like a game. I think ghost of tsushima vs AC mirage is a good comparison, in ghost there is a strong direction to it all, yoi feel transported to that world and the wight of ckmbat and exploration make you feel like you are there, in AC mirage, althoigh the stealth mechanics and world are really well made, the actions and animations of yoour character feel fake, theres no weight, things dont connect correctly and the suspension of disbelief is lost. I dont think Star wars was bad but it definitely deserves the criticism it gets, it has a great world and art direction, but the combat and the day to day actions and animations like combat, walking, stealth dont quite feel realistic enough to fool the brain, giving it that gamey feeling, the heavy messaging is modern games also does not help simply because when you preach to people it takes then out of the experience, it does not make the game bad per se, but it does not live up to ita price in a industry that has those great examples of escapism, a game will always be judged by how people perceive its value and star wars just aint there dude, when it goes down to like 30-40 dolars I think its gonna be a steal of a game.
The lesson for Ubi here is to let the devs cook more, and give their producers more power to get rheir vision out there while helpling then massage their messaging better in the narrative (look at metaphor:Refantazio for a good example of how to talk about a real life issue without preaching to the audience). The suits at Ubi need to be leashed so that the devs can do what they do best.
I agree with everything you said except the messaging. I haven't noticed anything like that in Outlaws, but by my estimation I'm only about halfway through the story, so that might change.
Honestly I'd love it if studios kind of went back to the PSX/PS2 era, where now and again they'd form a small team, give them a decent budget, and let them explore the more out-there concepts; not intending to please the biggest demographic possible.
The fact that she knocks out dudes in a full suit of armor with her fists.
Han Solo would like a word.
Genuinely like it a bunch as well, for the athmosphere and casual gameplay, and I'm excited for the story DLC dropping in a few days :)
It'll be a while before I get to the DLC, but it looks real good!
my issue is the games called star wars outlaws yet you cant actually well, be a outlaw. i mean you can take jobs from crime family's afaik but cant really do anything illegal outside of the few things that aren't common and not encouraged
That's a good point. I feel like if you had the same freedom as say, Red Dead Redemption 2, it might potentially stray too far from the story/Kay's established character.
Could have been cool if it had a bit more of a Thief angle to it too.
I still imagine what star wars 1313 could have been like. That promising game died for this.
That game looked amazing, but if I remember correctly it died just as Disney bought Lucasfilm, right?
@@shadowmitchmovies exactly, it was in development during that exact time.
I just bought it, not bad.
Glad you're having fun. I'm a little over 40 hours in now and I'm still loving it!
Is that runescape music
It's from the SNES Jurassic Park game. Good game, great soundtrack!
It a risky slaps though?
So good 😊
Im not watching the vid but does he say JK in the beginnning and start mega shitting all over this dumpster fire of a game
Watch it and find out!
wrong
Yeah that seems to be the consensus hahaha
Very wrong
Hey man
I appreciate that you posted your opinion which is definitely in the minority
It’s a dogshit opinion but I appreciate you posted it 😂
With these Disney SW projects that fall flat I’m voting with my wallet until things change
I’ll stick with the bangers that already exist over a lot of these newer releases that in many ways do not hit the mark in many areas for me and most of the fan base
The Jedi fallen order/survivor games are good though I will agree on that point 😊
I like your attitude man. Voting with your wallet is the right move, for both good and bad projects.
I can definitely see why people are disillusioned with Disney SW. For me, TFA, Rogue One, and Solo were rad, but TLJ and TROS were awful. TROS was unforgivably bad. I still can't believe how badly they dropped the ball on that one.
While I definitely think they're not all of the same standard, I really like all the live action Disney+ shows. The first two seasons of Mando in particular are up there with the best of the movies for me.
@ I see that we agree on more than I originally thought
I think TFA while being a little safe abs not particularly adventurous with its plot line definitely set up for an interesting trilogy
Which Disney then decided to swap directors which then took the next movie in an entirely different direction and then for the third movie swapped back to the original director which then had to waste the last movie trying to pull its self narrative wise “ back on course “
Along the way there were many inconsistencies re established lore
Wasted characters and far too much gag humour
Still mad we didn’t get a proper story for Finn
Just got used well once and then promptly forgotten about for the other two movies
@@corditesniffer8020 Man I agree with literally everything you said. TFA isn't perfect, but there's a lot about it that I like, and when I first saw it, I was very hopeful for the rest of the trilogy.
Then Rian Johnson rubbed his dick all over it, in what I can only describe as a massive ego trip.
The analogy I use is music. Imagine the beginning of a song. Cool intro, first verse, first chorus. It's all building up in one direction. Then someone starts playing a completely different song midway through. Then finally, trying to bring it back to that first song again, while keeping elements of the second in the last chorus and outro.
There's momentum and an overarching story to a trilogy, and Rian Johnson had a responsibility to the big picture to steward the story through the second act. It was a privilege to be able to create a mainline Star Wars movie, and he treated it like a chore.
@ And it certainly shows
We got a grumpy old hermit Luke Skywalker
Finn who was turned into a token black character
Ray who was turned in the bestest ever Jedi Evers despite no hardship or training to earn it
Kylo the moody teenager
And the invincible Palpatine who somehow returns 😂 absolute tripe
@@corditesniffer8020 like the prequels, the biggest heartbreak is the wasted potential. I loved Rey when we were first introduced to her. This talented scavenger scraping out this miserable existence on a backwater world. Finn, the turncoat stormtrooper who understands just how ruthless the First Order really is, and who may or may not be force sensitive. Kylo, a traumatised kid manipulated by an evil power, and aspiring to an unreachable ideal set by his grandfather.
What could have been...
Never thought I'd find another Disney SW apologist like me.
I don't like all of it, but a lot of it is great. It cops an unnecessary amount of shit, probably because videos like "Disney SJWs Ruin Star Wars!!!1" seem to get a ton of views haha