Pokimane and Valkyrae immediately jumped on Dr Disrespect while staying silent on Kris Tyson on the same exact accusations. Now this makes them look even worse 💀
Critical too lol. He decided to "quit streaming" and "take a break from social media" during the same 2 week period that all the dog pack videos were coming out about Mr. Beast. And he still HAS NOT addressed any of it lmao.
Despite twitch allowing female adults to promote sexual explicit material on their website to minors, people somehow blindly believed them concerning Dr disrespect. Make it make sense.
"He messaged minors" - OUTRAGE Meanwhile female streamers go borderlining on naked, saying wildly inappropriate things infront of an audience tha consist of mostly minors and nobody gives a f. They are literally grooming, live on twitch. But its fine. Because they are women? Anyhow unless we have the full context of whatever was said in the chatlogs, we can never know the real story.
it wasn't even just reddit people, folk who talk against cancel culture all the time were saying he was guilty as well. almost everyone assumed the worst and assumed that inappropriate = sexual.
Let's be real, both are gross. Twitch should have cracked down on cam girls on their site long long ago, and their double standards are frustrating. However, don't let that distract you from the fact that Doc still slid into the DMs of a 16-17 year old child. Maybe it's not technically illegal but its still gross af.
@@devildog768 I disagree, first of all, why are you trying to make her younger than she was? 2. the Twitch thots are 100% sexual while we still don't know what was said in the DM. Plus it was the girl that DM'd him. Nothing wrong talking or joking around with your fans, so before I would decide if it's "gross" or not, I need to see the DM's
@@Adderkop-b6k I'm not trying to make her sound younger than she was, I'm just reading between the lines of what Doc said. He said "She is the age of consent for her state," which is something you wouldn't say if the person in question was at least 18-19. And since we don't know her exact age, 16-17 is the range that falls under AoC in some states but still considered a minor to many people. Second, the fact that Doc had to clarify that he wasn't sexting because it doesn't fit the legal definition of sexting, tells me that it was probably a talking point during arbitration. Meaning that his conversations were sexually charged in nature and probably beyond just jokes. You'll probably never see the DMs, but if you wanna wait for the smoking gun, then that's on you.
@@devildog768 I believed it was confirmed she was 17 at the time of the messages. "sexually charged in nature and probably beyond just jokes." Maybe, but if they were then wouldn't they fit the definition of sexting? It seems to me he had some very vague comments that could be interpreted as sexual meaning that's the reason they can't be completely defined as sexting. Anyway, I still want to see the texts before I dig my heels into what he said was wrong or not. I've seen people say very tame stuff and get cancelled for "racism" or other bs.
Why don't we make fun of the behavior of people who care about this crap? The Days of Our Lives Drama has enough of a mindless audience.. Don't you think?
Doc is just gaming and said he won’t say anything to the situation anymore. Did you even watch the stream of doc? Apparently not, but hard on accusations everyone ha? You guys are the reason this society is not functional
The money lost from the lawsuit will be negligible compared to the value of clearing his name, clearing his name would automatically bring back any sponsors, lost contracts, viewers, etc. He has a ton of money to lose by not going for the defamation lawsuit
@@alexnorth2452You are wrong, I have personal experience in this area, when your name is cleared the sponsors don’t return and neither do the contracts, the damage is done.
@@ragetobe you can climb back if your name is cleared, if you didn't climb back, it's because you didn't make the effort to get back, so go cope somewhere else, it isn't a free walk to get back from something like this, but it IS possible only when your name is cleared, he hasn't given up, otherwise he wouldn't have made this video still in his character, if he wants to keep being doc, he needs to clear his name
@@alexnorth2452 No you cannot climb back if your name has been cleared, you will never reach the same heights ever again. He did nothing wrong. Get over yourself and go cope with your boyfriend somewhere else where they care about you because to me you’re just zeros and no one’s.
@@ragetobe since when did I ever claim to be someone? Oh na I didn't, you did, guess what never heard of you or the supposed controversy you were in, only one crying here is you 😅
The burden of proof isnt on the accused, but the accuser. It isnt on Doc to PROVE he is innocent. Its on Cody and Twitch to PROVE he is what htey say he is. THAT is how our justice system works.
@@_GreenShadow_ DrDisrespect does not need to show any proof. Cody is the one who needs to back up his accusation, if he doesn't, it's called a baseless accusation and gives DrDisrespect grounds for a suit against him and anyone else who accused him of such.
It's also why he mentioned how this has harmed him, how much money he as lost, and the employees that were laid off as a result. He's making the case for damages without using the word.
@@starboy5653 thats not how lawsuits work. there is certain information that HAS to be withheld. he can speak on old news all he wants to and how he felt about pass legal battles because those are over now. anything he's feeling currently however that has to do with current legal battles cannot be talked about.
Here's the thing I don't get why people don't understand. Guy has went through every avenue of arbitration centering around this case and has won. Twitch admitted no wrong doing, law enforcement found no wrong doing, and ffs the bureau of child exploitation found no wrong doing and all parties found these messages to NOT be sexting. He's literally won every case based on this. Who gives a fuck about the "court of public opinion. He's innocent according to the court of law. We live in a country where you're innocent until proven guilty, and he was quite literally proven innocent. It's not the other way around. I find it extremely dangerous that the ideology surrounding the internet is "guilty until proven innocent". Let's not forget, Cody was quite literally using this specifically to scalp tickets for his band w/ the promise of spilling "juicy" details. Those details never came. Ever think maybe because they don't exist? Guy never said sexual, he said inappropriate. That could meaning literally anything. Let's not sit here and act like we haven't cussed out a kid on xbox live before in a call of duty lobby who's spent the entire game trash talking. Not one time was any of these messages classified as "sexual" and the court of law quite literally found them not to be "sexual" by nature. The moral of the story is, the internet is quite literally treating something that's been dealt w/ in the court of law as if it needs to be settled in the court of public opinion, when it doesn't, period. You're aloud to have your own opinion about all of this at the end of the day, but facts are facts.
It cause people eat this crap up and click click click and react video after react video………literally one idiot shot his mouth off and EVERYONE RAN WITH IT LIKE IT WAS FROM JESUS HIMSELF.
Interesting how you conflate legality with morality. Just because he acted within the confines of the law, does not mean he acted ethically. The negative responses Doc received were simply due to a large number of people deciding that Doc acted immorally. Doc is a weirdo. He is now attempting to manipulate people by explaining how what he did was legal. Obviously it was legal, otherwise he'd have been criminally charged...
Sorry, but there is a distinct difference between the court and the court of public opinion. There is not much the law can do with a guy messaging a minor, but the public would definitely object to it. OJ Simpson was innocent according to the law, but... lets be real, he murdered that poor woman.
While I believe whistle blowing is always something good... Taking things out of context from a private conversation to ruin someone is just something so dystopian.
In hindsight twitch could have mistakenly prevented something serious. This dude does have a history of infidelity and engaged in conversations with a minor. Anyone with a moral compass could see the red flags popping up.
I never cared what journalists said, I saw his own admission of guilt. He apologized. Now he's deleted that and is trying to say it was a trap for journalists after the fallout. Not buying it, dude.
Me neither. Doc needs to do exactly what Asmon said otherwise his name will only be further dragged through the mud. The wishy-washiness with the admission is optically bad for the Doc at this moment, he has to defend his supposed innocence and integrity, he's not entitled to an infinite benefit of the doubt from the public.
For those who don’t understand the tweet: It is contextually framed with the word “inappropriate.” This word does not mean sexual. It can be framed as anything you want. It can also be used as defamation lawsuit bait.
Whether what he did was illegal or not doesn't impact the decision to no longer support him; even him talking inappropriately with a 17 year old is immoral and pretty weird, and that's enough to no longer support him. Dude was mid 30s with a wife and doing this with someone so young isn't a good look and is reason enough to stop supporting him.
You guys are crazy for just believing him. Does it really make sense that twitch would ban their biggest money maker for… no reason? I’m sorry but at the end of the day, twitch is a business, and unless they have a good reason, they’re not going to lose money for no reason.
Shouldn't Cody be the one who releases the so-called "Sexting" history? Cody is the one who accused DD of sexting, so Cody should have all the evidence to support his point.
This pisses me off so much. Giving a fake report to NCMEC should be illegal and heavily prosecuted. They are already inundated with real tips. What a fucking waste of the Center's time and resources.
He did nothing ILLEGAL. There is a difference between WRONG AND ILLEGAL. Saying the person is above the "age of consent" is admitting the person was 16 or 17. Why the hell is a 35+ year old married man messaging a 16/17 year old? Doc is DEAD WRONG and why would you support someone doing that?
They probably don't because verifying whether a dud tip was intentionally submitted with malice and not misguided concern is also a waste of time and resources. I bet you if they looked into this particular case, they'd probably end up with inconclusive results. I'm sure intentionally sending false tips IS illegal. The trick is proving that's what actually happened.
It's not a fake report. He didn't do anything illegal but he admit to the messages being inappropriate. If you are concerned about a minor and have good reason to be you shouldn't wait until something illegal have happened to report it.
Doc doesn't even need to sue Cody. He can file for damages against Twitch for breaking the arbitration/lawsuit agreement. Cody will get sued into the ground by Twitch anyways.
Depends on the settlement agreement. There may be an agreed damages clause. If that is paid, no law suit. But you are right - Twitch May then sue Cody.
Except none of this will happen because he did something wrong and won’t ever want to go through litigation over it. The man has lawyers on toe curling money to advise him in a situation like this - if he had any legal recourse he would of bragged it on stream because like Asmon said it’s the only option he has to effectively exonerate himself (again, he hasn’t done this because it isn’t an option in his circumstances; he did something, knowingly or otherwise which completely removes his defamation argument)
He made a public statement on his social media admitting to inappropriate messages with a minor. He may have been able to sue before he made that statement but now he has caused his own defamation, because I'd say most people didn't believe the accusations until he made his Twitter statement about it
The weird thing is that a random ex-twitch staff made these accusations to promote his band and you'll believe him full heartly. Twitch never came out and said anything. But when Doc breaks down what was found out during his lawsuit you say "Well show us some proof or sue that guy Connor". Doc already sued Twitch and won (by getting paid). So Doc, by your standards already proved his innocence. Twitch would sue him if he is lying in this video so you really think he would try to lie right now? Asmon Ive been a long time viewer but this is your weirdest take ever. It sounds like you're too scared to admit you were wrong or you do not want to go against public opinion. Its sad to see
Ya it's gonna be awkward when a lot of his former buddies that shit talked him try and react to him coming back. I kept on seeing this in other comments but "Cody is cooked" if/when doc files a defamation lawsuit against him. Honestly just curious what's gonna happen.
I believe doc did nothing illegal and that's why he won the case. The messages was probably with a female that was consider a adult in her state, but most would still find it weird to have inappropriate message with. So probably around 16 years old. This is technically not illegal, which is why twitch settle the case. But I still think it's disgusting and I don't get why people are trying to support him.
@@Musashi3861 Probably because the messages were found by twitch not be sexual in nature. If they were obvious messages I don't think doc would have won (got his contract paid out).
@@Shifytee123the reason he’s not suing for breach of that is because it wasn’t actually a breach of the confidentiality agreement because he didn’t even tie it to anyone the only reason we know it was actually doc was because doc came out and admitted he was messaging to a minor.
Bro won millions in the arbitration all while being proved innocent in the court of law. He got $24k in donations on his return stream. If I was him I wouldn’t give a shit about the court of public opinion.
@@subaruuuu1 if i recall correctly, both Tyler1 and Asmongold's editors take home 100% of their youtube earnings even, not just a cut. it incentivizes them to create good videos. These editors are probably lowkey millionaires also.
Any competent lawyer will tell doc not to say in public that he is going to sue he will be told to keep it private until the documents are filed. Also if Twitch or any company discovers any evidence of sexual misconduct with a minor they have to report it by law, if they no and dont report it then they will also be found to have broken the law. this did not happen and Doc was not arrested and charged for any crime.
So basically every employee who ever kept their mouths shut and knew things? Edit: Dogpack, Twitch employee, etc. NDAs don't mean you keep illegal activities secret.
Think of women too. The modern woman. His wife has not initiated divorce yet. If he was guilty the money train would be over. If she is one of the few with a soul then she would initiate divorce if he is guilty. I therefore argue with the weakest front that because divorce is not initiated doc is not lying and will win a lawsuit. good for him. any thot's?
"Are you gonna prove it?" Are you fucking serious? Someone accuses you, they have to prove it. What a scary world it is... Edit: I really can't with some of these responses. People saying he "admitted it", like are you actually braindead? A lot of things are considered to be inappropriate, like making dark jokes, but people are fucking hypocrites acting like they're angels. Also showing the messages is stupid, even if he could, imagine having sent the "wrong meme", in this fucked generation, he would never hear the end of it. Just remember, one day it could be you who is the one who is wrongfully accused. And people will not even listen to what you have to say, the damage has been done. All because of a bunch of zombies believing you're GUILTY, until proven innocent. Good - fucking - job 👏🏼
He literally could've just released the messages to clear himself, but instead, he admitted the messages were inappropriate and is telling everyone to just trust him...
Dr Disrespect sued Twitch right after he was banned and it was settled between the parties (got paid out) years ago. That's why he couldn't talk about it as it was part of the agreement
He can't sue twitch because twitch hasn't broken the agreement. Cody did. Cody is not twitch that's why doc is not releasing any documentation because twitch the company has not spoken about the incident a former disgruntled employee has
Crazy people assume the word inappropriate as sexual, so if anyone has ever told a crude joke or said anything a minor should not have heard is the same as DOC by that logic.
They had their minds made up before the accusations even started. Just another tool handed to them to bring him down. You know more accusations coming after this.
Leave this man alone. Obviously during his silent period, the issue was litigated to determine where no crime happened. Speculating otherwise after this matter, and adding to it, contributes on your part to the further slander and defamation of his character.
@@jimjohnson6944 " b-b-but then I can't make a video about it the second it's released saying I don't care about it at all it's just entertaining and content broooo"
Declared not guilty by Court. But public still thinks Doc is Guilty. Meaning outcomes of Court Cases don't really matter. People will believe what they want.
But if he doesn't make a case against the person that leaked it then something is wrong right? He is not saying: "i''m having my lawyer look at it." So then not only me but a lot of other people are thinking: "something is in those messages"
I will say I never heard anything ever about a Victim saying anything about him. It was only the ex employee saying it and then everyone just running with it as fact
@@lup7271 And did you read that confession to begin with? Or just heard about it from random youtuber and just copied-pasted his opinion into your brain? Because i did read it back in the day, and he said there almost the same things he said here - "These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were commited. I never even met the individual." Plain and simple - "Sometimes were inappropriate, but not sexual"
@@mixamaslyea but why inappropriately text a minor? And according to what he said the minor was within the age of consent and what he texted didn't legally count as csam, which is WEIRD wtf was bro texting were his defense has to be that it didn't technically count as csam and that the minor consented like bro I don't know about you but if your defense is that it legally isn't csam.....
@@forgottenflipflops Am i seriously the only one thinking what you just said is insane? "His tweet was a bait", a BAIT? BAITING people by confessing; being weird around kids? In 2024, this is just normal now? The fact people think the tweet just being a "bait" it okey...is insane to me.
@@konstantinkrastev4478 Johnny Depp ADMITTED to visiting children's hospitals and engaging with fans who were minors!!!1 there's even VIDEO EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111
@@jamesrevere2992you obviously don’t know anything about the court system. Twitch wouldn’t have settled out of court if they thought the judge would find him guilty. Twitch knew they were gonna lose so they settled out of court. Which means they didn’t have the proof they claimed they had
@@starboy5653Messaging minors is not illegal. He didn't message a minor. Getting banned for something and actually doing something are two different things. He was banned over an accusation that was levied at him. They settled with an NDA. The ex-employee lied about the whole situation for attention.
@@WolfRaven-jm1cm Nah, I can't believe they would throw him under the bus like that. I can see that in a few months they will be trying to suck up to him because their channels are dieing because of their dried up content
True. BUT if i was 100% sure i would win and have all the proof, i would announce the hell out of it just to so the other end would not sleep well for many nights until at court
@@TheAns51 So you'd give up your ability to win. You've never been to court before, you NEVER tell anyone publically that you're going to sue someone even if you were certain you were going to win. Because while you know you are going to win, the case might take far longer now that the other party has more preperation. In some caeses, it gives them the chance to flee the country before you can file. If what Doc is saying is true, why would you even want to give Cody or Twitch the chance? Especially Twitch because they're a massive corperation that can just pay to have you waited out. There's no point in openly saying that you're going to sue someone and in a lot of cases it makes it even harder to win. Honestly, just let it play out. If Cody is sent into generational poverty then that's on him, if twitch gets a chunk of money ripped out from their pocket then that's on them. The court of internet creatures without showers isn't the same a civilized society. Aka, wait until the legal documents drop and when they do, calm yaself and carry on with your day.
@mackinator you have to comb through the information, decide what charges can stick and what can't, and then create an argument to support your claim and different approaches to pushing your point. That last bit is important, that takes the most time and preparation.
a lot of things that are skeazy as fuck are legal. clearly he did nothing illegal but, that doesn't make his actions right. until we know what those texts were I reserve the right to say even Doc knows he fucked up.
@@matt6387 there was nevr a trial because there was no actual evidence against doc because he didnt do anything you muppet there was no trial, however a court did examine the evidence and conclude there was no wrongdoing you only go to trial if the court decides the evidence is significant enough that theres an actual case jesus christ imagine if all it took to put someone on trial was a baseless accusation, thats some 1984 shit bro...
Or you know, the person being accused could just as easily exonerate himself and show the messages. I dunno about you, but if I was accused of being a pdf and I wasn't, I'd just share the messages so people can see it isn't as weird as everyone is making it out to be. It's not like he doesn't have them. The thing went to court, so clearly he has the logs and when asked about it, he deflected the topic by saying "what are we, schoolkids?".
@@Danny2k34well there's still a loop hole for speculation since people would just say he's hiding parts of the messages, it's better if the accuser is the one who's going to release said messages
@@justamoogle5268 just have both release the messages, then it can all come to light, the truth and the lies. i get this feeling it would be pretty easy to figure out which is which after comparing and contrasting.
@@thewatcher5079 if you know how cases work the accuser always have the burden of truth, it's more likely that Dr disrespect is being careful on what he can release as per his lawyer's suggestion
Being found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is your guys' bar? Idgaf if his actions were legal. Bro is a father and married and admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor. Then he goes here and yells about the age of consent in different states and yall go "yup seems all good"
@@quinn7427 i agree that it's weird for him to be messaging somebody younger than him, but if it's legal where he lives, and legal where she lives, then i don't see what the issue is
What he did is morally wrong and speaks bad about him as a person in general but still, blame the justice system since his actions clearly aren't illegal by law. @@quinn7427
Docs lawyers most likely told him NOT to speak about ongoing lawsuits. This is normal standard practice, because some people may say something that hurts their own case in court. And we all know that Doc would say something bad and get in trouble. But he could've said, that actions will follow his statement, but not 100% clarify it.
Well one of the reasons to not talk about it is if the case involves a jury, anyone who has any knowledge of the case outside of the trial is not eligible to be a juror. Jurors have to make decisions about a case based solely on the information presented during the trial.
Yeah it can sometimes take years for a lawsuit to be filed so announcing that you are making a high profile lawsuit like this is never recommended until the lawsuit is already secure. In some cases it's fine, like Trump suing the NYTimes, because every piece of evidence was public and easy to find. There were no DMs that could be deleted or staff members to be fired and scrubbed off the former employee lists. In a case like this where the second a lawsuit is mentioned the other party could legally delete any and all evidence of their wrong doing before the paperwork is filed so an announcement does nothing but hurt your case in the long run
I've watched a streamer blow up his own lawsuit because he couldn't stop talking about it on stream. Any word said on stream can be dragged into court and used against you. That's why the golden rule during any lawsuit is to not talk about it.
Yea until he publicly admitted to doing something wrong and now he's back tracking. He literally shot himself in the foot on this one. A lot of people will have problems believing what he said or did from now on
@@marksmanof117b Yeah i also know such a streamer, but i can't remember the name and it drives me crazy 😡 Otherwise i would've mentioned it as an example in my post. Edit: I think it was Asmon watching a Video, where he said by himself that it would've been better to say nothing. But in this special case it's not really about what will happen inside of a lawsuit. What's most important rn is public opinion. Imo really hard to tell which move would be the best one, since we don't know details and only they know the actual truth.
"stop hating." What a stupid comment. I love how people blindly defend people they don't know. If you are married and your spouse is texting minors, there's a problem regardless of legality.
I’m pretty sure if he’s planning on taking legal action about it, it would be stupid to show the public all the “evidence” before legal proceedings begin.
He’s not going to do anything in the legal realm. This is the classic Trump tactic of attack when you know you’re caught and cornered. Yet his grift continues because he knows he can scam money off his loser supporters that don’t care about married man in his 40’s is messaging minors and can’t even deny that in his multi hour stream . Very gross
Innocent until proven guilty yeah sure but just because someone might not be proven guilty doesn't exactly mean they are innocent.... You can be innocent by a legal stand point but not by a moral stand point or just be a creepy by any stand point depending on the person
@@Homewarfare He sueing Twitch for violating the term of both parties do not talk about the court, win or lose doesn't have anything related to the fact that he is messaging a minor.
@@fgklfglhfyeah well he should keep his mouth shut like he did for Rich. Funny thing is in Rich’s situation he had MORE than common knowledge but still knew to stfu until the chips fell. People ought to learn by now that social media isnt a courtroom. 😂
Yea, we all know sometimes Asmon has some shitty takes, and his take on the Doc at the beginning of this was part of that category. Now all he can do is back pedal and downplay as much as he can as to not seem like he jumped on the Doc hate wagon.
He only "doesnt care" until the situation gets to a point of where Asmond has to say Doc should sue this "Cody" guy for saying that Doc is a pedo😂 its the classic "im saying sue him for saying it, i wasn't the one who said it, not me not ever" move 😂😂
For those who are wondering, there is NO state in the US that age of consent is under the age of 18, this is a federal law that the state does not have the authority to change. However, parents of the minor may give legal consent if the person is under the age of consent and is within a certain age limit. *The more you know*
??? He legit sext an minor. courts swayed it because in the state the person was in, 16 is legal age with parent guidance. so HOW in the fuk... Bruh he was married and has a kid and ADMITTED to it in a tweet a while back. are we losing it? he's backpedaling HARD becuz money is involed. Only underdogs can force his way out of this one. Edit: He got banned for sexual abuse, not sexting. This wordgame is AMAZING twitch is in the wrong, doc is in the wrong. both are TRASH bruh holy crap
@beyblade25 I think you forgot how law works. It's possible to do a morally awful action like he most likely did and still not doing something illegal. Just think about why the messages are not shown by him as proof. It might be because people would be disgusted by his action and he couldn't recover from that, even if there would be not consequences by law
It's a legal issue now. If he's suing, he's not going to say it yet. Secondly, he's reading, clearly, off stats about the case first hand about Twitch not finding any wrong doing. He DIDN'T do it. If he did some weird shit with a young girl, my friends... Why the fuck would his WIFE stay with him with a YOUNG DAUGHTER. NO MOTHER would stay with a man who was a suspected pedophile.
He also admitted to it. He admitted to texting a minor while he is in his 40's and married with a kid. All I need to know to draw my judgment about him.
@TheVenhammer You've never been falsely accused of anything in your life and your comment shows that. Do better as Brett Cooper says and next time watch the video.
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 Yeah I sure haven't, although I can certainly say that my first move if I was falsely accused wouldn't be to ADMIT to whatever I was being accused of on twitter. The actual brain rot on you people is hilarious.
Dude, you can’t if he’s suing Cody if it’s in arbitration, he can’t speak about it. You know that right and the chick was 17 legal consent in 70% of the states in America.
@@Brainwashedgoat an inappropriate message to a minor on twitch could be telling a kid to jump off a bridge for streamsniping you. Not any better just sayin everyone likes to lean on sexual end of inappropriate when there are many meanings to that word.
@@BrainwashedgoatLmao, it’s ironic how your own comment can easily be used against you. 1: You’re on a public platform, just like he was. 2: You’re messaging random people on the internet you know nothing about, just like he was. It is a fact you texted a minor in this platform at some point. But you’re not calling yourself a creep now, are ya? A lot of people talk to minors, that doesn’t make anyone a creep.
Asmon: "Yeah I don't really know if Jimmy aka MrBeast is guilty or not I wasn't there" Also Asmon: "DRDisrespect is guilty" Asmon your bias is showing (and insecurity)
I mean if DRd was baiting everyone with the tweet and shit and couldn't talk on any of it, it's understandable if people believed some shit. Here after this Asmon seems like he's very fence sitting but leaning in doc's favor somewhat.
Doc said he was inappropriate with a minor. If a dude tells me he's a pedo I don't think he is kidding and then leave him with children. I take him at his word. All this means is Doc's word aint worth shit and he also doesn't understand defamation.
Everyone saying Doc needs to show the receipts. On the flip side, if Connor has those receipts and wanted to bury Doc why didn’t he show them? Probably because the claims he’s making aren’t factual…
Doc hasn't even denied what was said. He said that no acts of sexting were found, but that doesn't mean sexually charged conversations didn't happen. Doc admitted to inappropriate messaging with a minor in response to grooming allegations. I don't know what else that could refer to.
@@sumicmusic Inappropriate messaging could very easily mean vulgar (not sexual) language and jokes, could mean stupid inappropriate innuendoes, innuendoes do not necessarily mean its "sexually charged".
@@sumicmusic He said there was no sexting and nothing graphic and characterized it as banter, what more of a denial do you want when the allegations made were vague?
If he didn’t go to jail for it and it was ruled out that nothing inappropriate was exchanged, then he doesn’t need to show anything. The people that needed to see what was said saw it. If it was the other way around, Doc would be in jail.
During all this let us just remember how badly YT wanted to defame PewDiePie for the longest time because he was burying everyone else in terms of views and exposure. When YT wanted to push their favorite UA-camrs instead. Just something to keep in mind. EDIT: I see the narrow mindedness that I didn't prep for, so this is for you Before you say "ah but Pewds didn't talk to a minor" listen, how do we know *YOU* haven't talked to a minor, you're behind a wall of security and anonymity by being nobody, you don't have a name in this business, but I can tell you for sure one thing, if you were, and the higher ups got tired of you, they would dig and rake through every ounce of dirt on you that they could find and in some cases distort or fabricate things just to rid themselves of you so they can push *THEIR* channels that they want pushed. (All the Twitch girls in this case) If Guy is legally in the clear, then he has done nothing wrong and we should respect that, if Guy *DID* do something wrong, I can trust the woke weirdos would have made sure to bury him in one swift go, but they didn't have the evidence to do so. Now; the people who watch Asmon and claim they are open-minded, are now hellbent on burying a guy found innocent of any wrongdoings... Maybe you're not as openminded as you guys make yourselves seem, maybe you're part of the problem with cancel-culture.
@@lopoa126hitting on? You don't know that. 'Inappropriate' can mean lots of things conversationally. Still bad, very bad, but to say "hitting on" when you do not know that to be true is poor on your part.
If my private DMs with my friends were leaked, we'd probably be in maximum security prison Edit: This joke seems to have flown over some people's heads.
Wtf is asmon going on about? He doesn't need to prove he is innocent. It was proven in court he is. If anything after all of this, its Cody that has to prove that he did what he did. Period.
Not being found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is not the same as being proven innocent. I don't think a married man with children inappropriately messaging a minor is chill but you do you ig
Nah Asmon is right. Sure, he has no legal consequences anymore (or for now anyways) but nowadays, the impression in the public eye is way more important and to eliminate the stain of it, he has to sue Cody for defamation if he deems what Cody said was false to clear his name in the public eye which lets be honest, is actually the most important thing.
He might have done nothing illegal, but the entire situation is still immoral and weird to be having inappropriate conversations with someone 16-17 while he is mid 30s with a wife; it's disgusting behaviour even if not illegal, and that's why it's still an L for Doc. No idea why people think this looks good on him.
The NDA was broken by Twitch, not by Doc. If he released messages he would be doing the very thing he is chastising them for. He's not breaking the NDA other than to respond to what they have said. He answered all questions, didn't commit any crimes, and is clear in my book because he's innocent until proven guilty. Good for him, and good for everyone who stayed quiet until he came out with this statement.
My theory is twitch has him under there thumb because he got the total contract payment after his ban making legal action really difficult but im not a lawyer :)
The NDA was broken by a ex twitch employee kid. He no longer worked at Twitch and had no relation to them at the time of the leak. Twitch themselves didn't break anything
Heres something ive never seen addressed. For YEARS, the Doc used the fact that Twitch banned him with no reason whatsoever, as a way to rally fans for him and against Twitch. And i get he was legally prohibited from talking about why he was banned. BUT...he knew why, he has known why for years. But misled his fanbase. He could have said that he wasnt allowed to discuss why. But he chose to say he was mever given a real reason, but he knew that whole time.
@@hipplel well theres a "strategic" way to handle things, which kinda seems slimey and very much like a politician. And then the "doc" way, which he proclaims is being too real and not having a filter and thats why "they" dont like him. But both cant be true. You cant be "real", and mislead your fan base because of questionable things youve done. I truly hope nothing really happened, and it was just a mistake blown out of proportion. BUT there are waaay to many people that dont seem to care and will just believe him 100% no matter what, when he has shown he will do whats "strategically" best for him and his channel, which isnt always the 100% truth
@@Pokibean I would also throw my friend under the bus if he literally confessed with a very vague confession to talking to minors now they could've talked in private but whether they like doc or not it would have ruined their careers if they had stayed on his side.
Even if the other was a minor, if even Twitch ITSELF judged the messages as NOT being 's*xting', and NO explicit images were exchanged, and there was NO intention to meet, THERE IS NO CRIME. Period. It is NOT illegal to exchange normal messages with a minor. Why do people demand evidence that he did NOT do something? It's on the ACCUSER to prove the accused is guilty, NOT the other way around.
Ya, it’s like people just assume it’s wrong or illegal to have messages with a minor? He’s growing his brand and gets probably 1000 messages a day he’s going to interact. So many people just project their rape issues onto this situation. It’s disgusting
Because it’s the internet and people are dumb. You would have to know what the law is on sexting. I mean we have seen perverts walk who were baited to meet people by someone pretending to be a minor. So Idk. I’m sure if someone cared enough they could look into it and see what the legal standards are and if being found to have not committed a crime is a good standard or not. Cause in some cases it obviously isn’t. But idk. Idc about him. I don’t have a dog in the fight. I don’t believe he did anything wrong because I haven’t seen any evidence of his wrongdoing. If he were grooming her or whatever I feel like that would come out. But he should just release the messages. I would if I were him. But maybe he doesn’t have them or isn’t allowed to. Idk.
@@MrEvans1drdisrespect will lose more money if he sues Cody. But can definitely sue Twitch again to get more money, then twitch will sue Cody out of pettiness.
100% hes going to sue. Him and twitch. Thats what he meant by playing chess. He let them break the gag order attached to the settlement. He let them keep going intentionally. The stream was to make his losses publicly known. And prepare his case.
This is what I'm thinking - probably some horrible jokes exchanged. I remember when my company implemented Lync (the Microsoft IP-tel system) back in the day. The database with all the unencrypted user messages sent to each other was available to me. I was doing some work in that database once to do with a web interface for finding conversations, found really inappropriate jokes sent between two people along these lines. It was just banter, but that kinda shit would have got them cancelled... told them and they shit themselves!
Whether he was innocent or not does not take away the fact that he was the adult. He should know better than to engage in a conversation with a minor like this. This nearly cost him his career.
Doc: Neither I nor the Twitch user exchanged any sexually graphic messages or images Doc: Cody tried to paint the picture that I exchanged sexually explicit messages or images with the user, that never happened Asmon: Goes on a tangent about the definition of "sexting" as if that's the only term doc used to describe the scenario Asmon: He's being intentionally vague..
To be fair to Asmon, he probably got caught up in the live stream and wasn't fully understanding everything doc said. It is clear that doc's statement was written ahead of time and I would guess that one or several attorneys contributed to it. Even I had to re-watch the video to understand everything Doc said.
Did doc admit also that the messages sometimes leaned TOWARD inappropriate?? Am I the only person that knows if you’re heading toward something that you’re not fucking there yet? lol like I can’t be the only one.
@@haroldliriano5394 You don't show your evidence to the public, you wait and show it in court. Doc did this, and won his suit. It wasnt some out of court settlement where Twitch agreed not to talk about it but doc agreed to never contact or use Twitch again, no, it WENT TO COURT and an actual judge arbitrated that no crime was committed, aka Doc 'won' the lawsuit because no wrongdoing was found, and thus that his contract was terminated unfairly. That's why Twitch had to pay him out for its remainder. Every single person who is 100% sure doc did something wrong, what exactly did he do that was wrong? A court (and twitch's internal team) deemed it 'not sexting' so what does that leave you? "It was still inappropriate" okay, and (wait for it, wait for it) twitch's internal team, once again, deemed it not against their policies/ToS. So what's left? Oh doc "admitted" it in a tweet? What did he admit, EXACTLY? Because it wasn't 'sexting'. If Cody actually dropped "evidence" aka even just screenshots of the logs, Doc would have to respond to them or try to ignore it, or even play the 'those messages are fake that screenshot is fake' angle, which even still would be him being forced to respond. But nothing? Not a single person from the massive corporation full of blue haired fembeasts that hate Doc because he's a CARICATURE of everything that they hate, ever leaked the messages or told some journalist what he had said? Bit strange, innit? "B-but Twitch was legally not allowed to talk about it" yeah that's what leaks are for. And yet nothing was leaked until a SINGLE DISGRUNTLED *EX* EMPLOYEE decided to start tweeting about it but only to tell people to give his band attention or he wouldn't provide details? I dunno kev, kinda makes you think.
@@TermiJP having a conversation with a minor is not illegal. he was accused of SEXUAL messages and wanting to meet up with them. the fact it was sent to the goverment for exploited children 4 years ago is all the proof you need
I totally get Doc's reaction. He's stayed silent while these MFers have been running around, slandering his name, destroying his career, based on shit they know wasn't true. I really don't get why people act like false accusations are so rare. THIS is a prime example of exactly what a false accusation can do. I hope heads roll for this.
what i get from it he gave them more "ammunition" so they could dig theyr holes even deeper for juicier lawsuits in the future - might be false bravado trying to cover mistakes made but it would make sense to bait the people spreading lies to have better chance in defamation lawsuit
You eould have to proof that all the people spread lies knowing it was not the truth... he can't do that if he himself said that he had "inappropriate messages with a minor"
@@SubZero-hs9xc minor means VERY different things around the world ... or even in the USA ... one can be "minor and "legal" at the same time ... which is obviously a thing in this case where what DD did is NOT illegal confirmed by three independent "investigations" which should be case closed for everyone
Ok here's my thoughts on the sueing Cody thing. This might have already been discussed with Docs legal team and there was 2 choices: A. Doc could sue Cody for defamation, probably win, spend a lot of time and money doing so, have to remain silent during the process.. and probably never get a single cent from Cody, but maybe win back a little bit of public favor if he could ever publicly speak about it. B. Doc could not file a suit, save the money, not go through more arbitration, and be able publicly speak out, probably gaining more public favor than a lawsuit would. At the end of the day option b is more financially sound and has a better outcome for docs business. Instead he gets to put this guy on blast and hope the court of public opinion does as much damage to Cody, as Cody did to him.
I think everyone is missing the point about him not showing the messages. He claimed that the messages were typical online banter, which we all know can be easily skewed one way or another. Showing those messages will now open up the whole can of worms that started all of this to begin with.
Claim this, claim that. Complains about lack of context but provides none himself. “It wasn’t illegal!” Ok buddy, neither is a 30 year old man at a high school house party…but it sure does look weird
Plus twitch most likely isn’t giving him access to his account, second it’s (possibly) sealed discovery documents. Too many factors to make a strong opinion and stand on it. Key points, he didn’t sext a minor and he didn’t sexually abuse a minor. If this is different from the truth, twitch has free rein to disclose it due to both sides talking about it.
@@harveyflippers9531 Not if they're the home owner. It's almost like context is key, huh? Also, he no longer has the means to access those messages so he's in a tricky spot as far as him being able to provide that context.
Dude, Doc said he was inappropriate with a minor. The whole "bait" thing is bullshit, he needs to prove otherwise. He made the claim, he is now denying that claim. Burdon of proof is on him.
I believe Herschel 'Guy' Beahm should have approached this situation with more seriousness and presented himself as his true self, rather than as his online persona, Dr. Disrespect. Given his past controversies with cheating on his wife, it's particularly concerning. While the age of consent in many U.S. states and Canada is 16, it's still inappropriate for an adult man to be engaging with a 16 year-old in such a manner. It seems like he attempted to be discreet by using Twitch whispers, but was ultimately caught. Now, his statements appear to be more of a legal defense than an honest explanation. As a father myself, I understand the importance of such matters, and I believe it's crucial to avoid situations like this...
If a judge reviewed those messages and determined they were not inappropriate, that should be enough to settle the matter. However, I'm wondering-can doc still release the messages if the other person involved in the conversation doesn’t want them made public? Also, if he starts redacting parts of the messages, it could automatically lead people to wonder what else was redacted, potentially raising more suspicion.
It’s possible he doesn’t have access to them, besides what was in discovery and further, he may not be allowed to release said documents because the court has sealed them (for now)
What exactly is this 'grey area' you're referring to, where you imply he did something wrong but not illegally? Inappropriate contact with minors is clearly defined by law, leaving little room for ambiguity. Given that Twitch, the user, and the authorities have all concluded that no wrongdoing occurred, your demands for additional evidence, such as text messages from arbitration, seem like an attempt to move the goalposts. This insistence on 'more evidence' after a thorough exoneration-where the only accusation has already been pre-refuted by all parties-reflects not only a refusal to accept the established facts but also suggests personal bias, or worse, personal cowardice.
As someone who is probably the same age as the good doc here, I could frankly care less about what the legal definitions are. You ain't gonna catch me talking in any kind of way to someone 21 and younger. Customer service level talk and thats about it. I could really care less about this, "oh but its legal", horseshit. Just don't interact with minors if you're an adult. If they can't drink, then don't speak to em. JFC why the fuck is the bar so low to just be a normal person. Shit for my own personal preference I'd bump it up to like 25 cause the rarity of meeting someone with their shit together even then is like an epic drop. So, is he legally cleared? Sure. Will I always look at him with a side-eye tho? You better fuckin' believe it until I hear otherwise. Fuckin, "they're legal in their jurisdiction" smh jfc
You can commit legal yet immoral acts. This twitch user was clearly above the age of consent, but they were also clearly younger than 18. If it turns out they were 18 or over then he’s a victim of character assassination. Any dude talking to someone with knowledge of their being younger than 18 should feel shame and receive public censure.
Agreed. Judge and law enforcement say innocent. Then he's fucking innocent. He doesn't have to prove shit. He was literally working away on stream and some prick says some shit on twitter and doc loses everything. Then ww find out the law cleared him. Then he doesn't have to prove anything.
@@jakeharland8345 lol, so you're saying an adult can't speak to someone younger than 18...gtfoh. he's not sent sexual messages as a judge said he didn't. Inappropriate can mean he swore or told the person to punch someone in the face. That would be Inappropriate. If a judge says innocent of any wrongdoing, then he doesn't need to prove anything. Some random that makes a post and suddenly the doc has to provide evidence he did nothing wrong? I could say you're a pdfile on twitter...then demand you show us every text on your phone.? Yeah...no.
Just because YOU want to see the messages doesn't mean that he SHOULD show them. His lawyers probably don't want him to. So people saying Doc not showing the messages proves he's guilty are just stupid people. AT this point it's probably not even his decision.
Not gonna lie, in my eyes Doc is clean asf. Sure, his public image is soiled and no amount of talking is gonna completely fix it but I also can't see why people would still paint him as the "child s*xting pdfile" while 1- it wasn't s*xting 2- most parties that reviewed the messages confirmed it was ok 3- not even the supposed "child" was disturbed in the first place, it was his ex-manager purposefully choosing specific messages that seemed inappropriate without context. I don't think this needs further reviewing unless the messages are out.
@@kavid8120 Definition from Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary: "unsuitable, esp. for the particular time, place, or situation". Not defending Doc, Cody or anything/anyone, but inappropriate can be used in many cases like: dressing up inappropriately to a place (using tank tops and beach trunks in a business corporation who requires business attire), eating inappropriately (ignoring proper manners like using your hands to grab and eat noodles instead of fork, or slurping an empty drink while making too much noise), behaving inappropriately (a kid in a classroom is being disruptive and disrespectful to the teacher and/or students), talking inappropriately (2 friends in school saying bad words, jokes, racist slangs, or saying sexual remarks, etc). Inappropriate can literally mean too many things.
Doc needs to show proof in order to defend his public image. By not showing proof or being allowed to show proof is hurting his public image, that's the problem. He may have done nothing wrong legally, which is fine. But the public doesn't see that and that directly affects his ability to get sponsorships and conduct business. Cody would need to be sued in order for him to show proof. You don't need to proof to call someone a predator, in the same way we freely call someone restarted or tell them to visit a home depot. I am not a fan of Dr. Disrespect, but I don't believe that he can just walk away without repairing his public image.
@@SynthSy he is the one who brought this whole thing to the internet HIMSELF. Why should he have to show prove for something he told people himself? If I say I robbed a bank as a joke, why would I have to prove the world that I didnt? Dummy logic.
@@FatManJackson if someone accuses you of something, and you do not defend yourself. Anyone can take it as is, regardless if there is proof. That's why politicians and the media do it, it's free. In order to turn it into defamation, you have to take them to court. Only then the accuser has to provide proof that what they're saying is in fact truth. It's dummy logic indeed, but that is how our society works.
It's so annoying so sad to have been a fan of docs. You all are cult like doc made the dang tweet are we pretending it was a real 5d chess move oh come on
Let me explain the definition of what doc did if true from how he described it he ruined his reputation, his fans, his company, and his friends all so in his own words he could get people to defame him so if that's true he used everyone around him to make money which is what a sociopath does.
He can't show the messages because it's all in the settlement. He literally just said the settle was that nobody was supposed to talk about it, and a party has recently violated that agreement.
So he is now allowed to show the messages. The only thing that would stop him is if the person was indeed a minor when they were sent so would be legally locked up for their protection. He wont show the messages because they are likely worse than he is describing. The easiest thing for him to do to shup people up was make them public and hide the identity of the 'victim'. If its just internet banter then people will shrug it off and move on but I think we both know its likely not the case.
@@MrWiggz69 exactly idk why people are acting like he’s somehow innocent now if there was a big enough reaction from people who saw the messages then clearly it’s pretty bad but it might be legal technically doesn’t mean he ain’t a fucking weirdo
Pokimane and Valkyrae immediately jumped on Dr Disrespect while staying silent on Kris Tyson on the same exact accusations. Now this makes them look even worse 💀
Is that even possible xD
Critical too lol. He decided to "quit streaming" and "take a break from social media" during the same 2 week period that all the dog pack videos were coming out about Mr. Beast. And he still HAS NOT addressed any of it lmao.
@@PentaHousen you got that 100% backwards, smoothbrain
@@PentaHousenhe didn’t try to meet lol good try
Well that is hardly surprising
Despite twitch allowing female adults to promote sexual explicit material on their website to minors, people somehow blindly believed them concerning Dr disrespect. Make it make sense.
100
"He messaged minors" - OUTRAGE
Meanwhile female streamers go borderlining on naked, saying wildly inappropriate things infront of an audience tha consist of mostly minors and nobody gives a f.
They are literally grooming, live on twitch. But its fine. Because they are women?
Anyhow unless we have the full context of whatever was said in the chatlogs, we can never know the real story.
@@haewymetal He already admitted to inappropriately texting a
Lmaooo you can stream your naked body in 4k to anyone with a pc but god forbid you send a creepy message thru whispers to one person 😂😂
those streamers know it too. absolutely foul they do this. like what kind of creep preys on kids like that?
He's basically had a public trial by 'Reddit mods', and that's how the world works now.
Good ol Reddit, the short bus of the internet
Ew gross
Lol!
Buncha antiwork mouth breathers
it wasn't even just reddit people, folk who talk against cancel culture all the time were saying he was guilty as well. almost everyone assumed the worst and assumed that inappropriate = sexual.
35 year old streamer talks to 17 year old user - BAN
17 year old tub streamer talks to 35 year old dudes - EMPOWERING
a women kryptonite is accountability and responsibility
Let's be real, both are gross. Twitch should have cracked down on cam girls on their site long long ago, and their double standards are frustrating. However, don't let that distract you from the fact that Doc still slid into the DMs of a 16-17 year old child. Maybe it's not technically illegal but its still gross af.
@@devildog768 I disagree, first of all, why are you trying to make her younger than she was? 2. the Twitch thots are 100% sexual while we still don't know what was said in the DM. Plus it was the girl that DM'd him. Nothing wrong talking or joking around with your fans, so before I would decide if it's "gross" or not, I need to see the DM's
@@Adderkop-b6k I'm not trying to make her sound younger than she was, I'm just reading between the lines of what Doc said. He said "She is the age of consent for her state," which is something you wouldn't say if the person in question was at least 18-19. And since we don't know her exact age, 16-17 is the range that falls under AoC in some states but still considered a minor to many people.
Second, the fact that Doc had to clarify that he wasn't sexting because it doesn't fit the legal definition of sexting, tells me that it was probably a talking point during arbitration. Meaning that his conversations were sexually charged in nature and probably beyond just jokes.
You'll probably never see the DMs, but if you wanna wait for the smoking gun, then that's on you.
@@devildog768 I believed it was confirmed she was 17 at the time of the messages.
"sexually charged in nature and probably beyond just jokes." Maybe, but if they were then wouldn't they fit the definition of sexting? It seems to me he had some very vague comments that could be interpreted as sexual meaning that's the reason they can't be completely defined as sexting. Anyway, I still want to see the texts before I dig my heels into what he said was wrong or not. I've seen people say very tame stuff and get cancelled for "racism" or other bs.
Concord died so Dr. Disrespect could rise from its ashes like a phoenix
No
Worthy sacrifice
I wish Doc had taken me to his private island
@@SuperCaspermanAI post
lol Doc rules
At this rate Asmon's going to start reacting to things before they've happened
Minority report style reactions
@@armondtanz Asmongold already judges people like it's minority report
@@lordcarvecorrect
Why don't we make fun of the behavior of people who care about this crap? The Days of Our Lives Drama has enough of a mindless audience.. Don't you think?
lmao
Disrespect's stream isn't even over yet, and the reaction video for it is already out.
gotta get those quick views in.
Easy money for him ofc he’s gonna do
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Great editor and producer
Doc is just gaming and said he won’t say anything to the situation anymore. Did you even watch the stream of doc? Apparently not, but hard on accusations everyone ha? You guys are the reason this society is not functional
Because he’s obviously guilty and nobody under the age of 18 is buying it.
Scenario: Cody has no money, Doc sues and wins, Doc is more out of pocket.
The money lost from the lawsuit will be negligible compared to the value of clearing his name, clearing his name would automatically bring back any sponsors, lost contracts, viewers, etc. He has a ton of money to lose by not going for the defamation lawsuit
@@alexnorth2452You are wrong, I have personal experience in this area, when your name is cleared the sponsors don’t return and neither do the contracts, the damage is done.
@@ragetobe you can climb back if your name is cleared, if you didn't climb back, it's because you didn't make the effort to get back, so go cope somewhere else, it isn't a free walk to get back from something like this, but it IS possible only when your name is cleared, he hasn't given up, otherwise he wouldn't have made this video still in his character, if he wants to keep being doc, he needs to clear his name
@@alexnorth2452 No you cannot climb back if your name has been cleared, you will never reach the same heights ever again. He did nothing wrong. Get over yourself and go cope with your boyfriend somewhere else where they care about you because to me you’re just zeros and no one’s.
@@ragetobe since when did I ever claim to be someone? Oh na I didn't, you did, guess what never heard of you or the supposed controversy you were in, only one crying here is you 😅
The burden of proof isnt on the accused, but the accuser. It isnt on Doc to PROVE he is innocent. Its on Cody and Twitch to PROVE he is what htey say he is. THAT is how our justice system works.
I don't think he has access to messages to begin with .
@@-PureRogue Well it's kinda obvious when he is banned.
Well supposed to work
@@kingschill23 true
Legally, yeah. But Asmon's right--now it's a court of public opinion thing.
i love how the same people that say "PROOF?!?!?" are the ones that believe any tweets on twitter with no evidence.
the proof is that he's talking about it and has nothing to hide
@@_GreenShadow_ and it's kinda hard to get proof when you are LITERALLY banned on the site where the proof is.
Innocent until PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW
@@_GreenShadow_ DrDisrespect does not need to show any proof. Cody is the one who needs to back up his accusation, if he doesn't, it's called a baseless accusation and gives DrDisrespect grounds for a suit against him and anyone else who accused him of such.
Yes, if it's on the internet, it must be true
He didn't mention suing because his lawyer is already writing up the paperwork and he's been told not to talk about it. This should be quite obvious.
Exactly. Same reason he won't show anything. It's all in the lawsuit
@@AsideloveThey won’t show anything but why is he talking about it? if it was a lawsuit he wouldn’t be blabbing about it this much
if i was Cody i would look for a nice tent
It's also why he mentioned how this has harmed him, how much money he as lost, and the employees that were laid off as a result. He's making the case for damages without using the word.
@@starboy5653 thats not how lawsuits work. there is certain information that HAS to be withheld. he can speak on old news all he wants to and how he felt about pass legal battles because those are over now. anything he's feeling currently however that has to do with current legal battles cannot be talked about.
If I was him, I would sue Twitch for defamation and every single streamer who called me a pedo. There's no way he can lose his case.
Here's the thing I don't get why people don't understand. Guy has went through every avenue of arbitration centering around this case and has won. Twitch admitted no wrong doing, law enforcement found no wrong doing, and ffs the bureau of child exploitation found no wrong doing and all parties found these messages to NOT be sexting. He's literally won every case based on this. Who gives a fuck about the "court of public opinion. He's innocent according to the court of law. We live in a country where you're innocent until proven guilty, and he was quite literally proven innocent. It's not the other way around. I find it extremely dangerous that the ideology surrounding the internet is "guilty until proven innocent".
Let's not forget, Cody was quite literally using this specifically to scalp tickets for his band w/ the promise of spilling "juicy" details. Those details never came. Ever think maybe because they don't exist? Guy never said sexual, he said inappropriate. That could meaning literally anything. Let's not sit here and act like we haven't cussed out a kid on xbox live before in a call of duty lobby who's spent the entire game trash talking. Not one time was any of these messages classified as "sexual" and the court of law quite literally found them not to be "sexual" by nature.
The moral of the story is, the internet is quite literally treating something that's been dealt w/ in the court of law as if it needs to be settled in the court of public opinion, when it doesn't, period. You're aloud to have your own opinion about all of this at the end of the day, but facts are facts.
This is very well said and I agree 100%
It cause people eat this crap up and click click click and react video after react video………literally one idiot shot his mouth off and EVERYONE RAN WITH IT LIKE IT WAS FROM JESUS HIMSELF.
Interesting how you conflate legality with morality. Just because he acted within the confines of the law, does not mean he acted ethically.
The negative responses Doc received were simply due to a large number of people deciding that Doc acted immorally.
Doc is a weirdo. He is now attempting to manipulate people by explaining how what he did was legal. Obviously it was legal, otherwise he'd have been criminally charged...
Sorry, but there is a distinct difference between the court and the court of public opinion. There is not much the law can do with a guy messaging a minor, but the public would definitely object to it.
OJ Simpson was innocent according to the law, but... lets be real, he murdered that poor woman.
@@olivercharles2930OJ still lost the Civil case though, totally different lol
Twitch is such a scummy place
Why? If someone was inappropriately messaging a minor I hope you wouldn't ignore it.
every since the deer girl thing its been doomed
@@drewjozznever forget
@@candymanAMI tough they where not a minor
*the internet
While I believe whistle blowing is always something good... Taking things out of context from a private conversation to ruin someone is just something so dystopian.
But most ppl didn't doubt him until he confirmed it himself with that tweet. So he lying about his lie? Or lying about lying about a lie?
Maybe he baited everyone, who knows
@@ElcoolMo thats not what was said though
In hindsight twitch could have mistakenly prevented something serious. This dude does have a history of infidelity and engaged in conversations with a minor. Anyone with a moral compass could see the red flags popping up.
Whistle blowing doesn't mean you air it out in public forum. There's a process. They screwed up, he's going to get paid
I never cared what journalists said, I saw his own admission of guilt. He apologized. Now he's deleted that and is trying to say it was a trap for journalists after the fallout. Not buying it, dude.
Me neither. Doc needs to do exactly what Asmon said otherwise his name will only be further dragged through the mud. The wishy-washiness with the admission is optically bad for the Doc at this moment, he has to defend his supposed innocence and integrity, he's not entitled to an infinite benefit of the doubt from the public.
It blows my mind that Twitch is a funnel for OF models to engage with literal kids. Yet things like this happen and everyone jumps on it
wAmEn are empowered!
Yes. Actually insane.
You act like Twitch is the only way kids can access porn lol
Yep
@@NomadUniversenah but it is definitely a funnel straight to it. That’s their whole business model lmao
I'm gay but there's too many comments so no one will ever know
I know
I will join this ride.
I do
👀.
Too late lil closet friend
For those who don’t understand the tweet:
It is contextually framed with the word “inappropriate.”
This word does not mean sexual. It can be framed as anything you want. It can also be used as defamation lawsuit bait.
Exactly!
inappropriate can also mean "edgy"
Man inappropriately messaged a minor, that is enough. A married man shouldn't be messaging minors. He a pdf
Indeed and they fell for it so hard😂
What was the tweet
The proof is he was not charged. Multiple authorities reviewed it and came to the same conclusion.
And they paid him that says enough
Whether what he did was illegal or not doesn't impact the decision to no longer support him; even him talking inappropriately with a 17 year old is immoral and pretty weird, and that's enough to no longer support him. Dude was mid 30s with a wife and doing this with someone so young isn't a good look and is reason enough to stop supporting him.
What Authorities?
You guys are crazy for just believing him. Does it really make sense that twitch would ban their biggest money maker for… no reason? I’m sorry but at the end of the day, twitch is a business, and unless they have a good reason, they’re not going to lose money for no reason.
Onision had the FBI clear him
Shouldn't Cody be the one who releases the so-called "Sexting" history? Cody is the one who accused DD of sexting, so Cody should have all the evidence to support his point.
And he never showed it.
If it was on whispers only twitch has a copy.
I mean, whoever has the logs, Id like to see them so I can formulate a definitive opinion and take a stance on all this
Dr Disrespect said he had inappropriate conversations with a minor, he should release them if they're not actually as bad as that sounds.
@@mauriciososa1879 a judge did that and found him not guilty...... why do you think your opinion is worth more?
This pisses me off so much. Giving a fake report to NCMEC should be illegal and heavily prosecuted. They are already inundated with real tips. What a fucking waste of the Center's time and resources.
He did nothing ILLEGAL. There is a difference between WRONG AND ILLEGAL. Saying the person is above the "age of consent" is admitting the person was 16 or 17. Why the hell is a 35+ year old married man messaging a 16/17 year old? Doc is DEAD WRONG and why would you support someone doing that?
Those organizations don't care about children, don't fool yourself.
They probably don't because verifying whether a dud tip was intentionally submitted with malice and not misguided concern is also a waste of time and resources. I bet you if they looked into this particular case, they'd probably end up with inconclusive results. I'm sure intentionally sending false tips IS illegal. The trick is proving that's what actually happened.
@bluecontroller6857 you need your computer checked ASAP.
It's not a fake report. He didn't do anything illegal but he admit to the messages being inappropriate. If you are concerned about a minor and have good reason to be you shouldn't wait until something illegal have happened to report it.
Doc doesn't even need to sue Cody. He can file for damages against Twitch for breaking the arbitration/lawsuit agreement. Cody will get sued into the ground by Twitch anyways.
Depends on the settlement agreement. There may be an agreed damages clause. If that is paid, no law suit. But you are right - Twitch May then sue Cody.
I’m sure cody is not rolling in money
Rule #1 of business law is don't sue anyone that doesn't have any money. Cody will walk. Twitch on the other hand, maybe not.
Except none of this will happen because he did something wrong and won’t ever want to go through litigation over it. The man has lawyers on toe curling money to advise him in a situation like this - if he had any legal recourse he would of bragged it on stream because like Asmon said it’s the only option he has to effectively exonerate himself (again, he hasn’t done this because it isn’t an option in his circumstances; he did something, knowingly or otherwise which completely removes his defamation argument)
He made a public statement on his social media admitting to inappropriate messages with a minor. He may have been able to sue before he made that statement but now he has caused his own defamation, because I'd say most people didn't believe the accusations until he made his Twitter statement about it
"Im not worried about this." Meanwhile, docs stream is in the background 😂.
The weird thing is that a random ex-twitch staff made these accusations to promote his band and you'll believe him full heartly. Twitch never came out and said anything. But when Doc breaks down what was found out during his lawsuit you say "Well show us some proof or sue that guy Connor". Doc already sued Twitch and won (by getting paid). So Doc, by your standards already proved his innocence. Twitch would sue him if he is lying in this video so you really think he would try to lie right now? Asmon Ive been a long time viewer but this is your weirdest take ever. It sounds like you're too scared to admit you were wrong or you do not want to go against public opinion. Its sad to see
Ya it's gonna be awkward when a lot of his former buddies that shit talked him try and react to him coming back. I kept on seeing this in other comments but "Cody is cooked" if/when doc files a defamation lawsuit against him. Honestly just curious what's gonna happen.
fr asmon going corny pr mode aswell
I agree with this 100%, well said brother.
He didnt win anything, they had to pay him because they broke the contract.
@@Pluhxi they only settled because they knew they were going to lose
So people believe someone who lost the case which is cody and Twitch but not believeing the one who won the lawsuit? Mind blowing
Technically they settled which means no one won the case. But since Twitch paid out Doc's entire contract it's clear Twitch knew they were gonna lose
I believe doc did nothing illegal and that's why he won the case. The messages was probably with a female that was consider a adult in her state, but most would still find it weird to have inappropriate message with. So probably around 16 years old. This is technically not illegal, which is why twitch settle the case. But I still think it's disgusting and I don't get why people are trying to support him.
but he admited to it,now hes backtracking...hmm...also it was a settlement,not a win,it 120% happened
@@Musashi3861 Probably because the messages were found by twitch not be sexual in nature. If they were obvious messages I don't think doc would have won (got his contract paid out).
@@Sleeptastic Settling is just a nice word for losing a case... people settle all the time to avoid legal fees.
Filing known false claims of child abuse should be prosecuted promptly and to the fullest extent of the law.
Intentionally false claims should come with some kind of penalty. Not just the possibility of being sued because people can always make more money
@@tristhekid prosecution refers to crimes...litigation refers to claims from a law suit
Maybe but in this case no one filed false claims of child abuse
Twitch paid out his contract and as part of the settlement was probably agreed no furher action allowed aka suing as part of their agreements
@@Shifytee123the reason he’s not suing for breach of that is because it wasn’t actually a breach of the confidentiality agreement because he didn’t even tie it to anyone the only reason we know it was actually doc was because doc came out and admitted he was messaging to a minor.
Shouldn't be msging girls under 18. Shouldn't msg girls when you're married.
Bro won millions in the arbitration all while being proved innocent in the court of law. He got $24k in donations on his return stream. If I was him I wouldn’t give a shit about the court of public opinion.
If you were him you'd be a groomer. This "return" is the biggest cope I've seen in awhile
@shogun0810 Show me your proof lil bro or you can keep coping yourself😮
@GramDraws he's own tweet champ lmao
He sounds like someone off of 'how to catch a predator '
All the classic excuses
Mega cringe
@@shogun0810 what did he say in his own tweet bubba? let me know
@@FosterHDGaming there's no way you don't know. Quit playing coy and defending grooming
1) Needs to see whispers to confirm innocence
2) Didn’t need to see whispers to say guilty
Damn, Asmon's editor works quick.
What do you mean ?
fr. shorter version was on the clips channel within like 20 mins of dr d going live on this.
Because they make a percentage of the money the channel makes, people work hard when their time is valued
Alot of things he has to hide 😂
@@subaruuuu1 if i recall correctly, both Tyler1 and Asmongold's editors take home 100% of their youtube earnings even, not just a cut. it incentivizes them to create good videos. These editors are probably lowkey millionaires also.
Any competent lawyer will tell doc not to say in public that he is going to sue he will be told to keep it private until the documents are filed. Also if Twitch or any company discovers any evidence of sexual misconduct with a minor they have to report it by law, if they no and dont report it then they will also be found to have broken the law. this did not happen and Doc was not arrested and charged for any crime.
Trolls still gonna say what trolls say. Just like everyone thinking check fraud is a chase bank glitch LMAO
Then that means Mr. Beast should've reported Chris Tyson. He let with a minor.
So basically every employee who ever kept their mouths shut and knew things?
Edit: Dogpack, Twitch employee, etc. NDAs don't mean you keep illegal activities secret.
Twitch did report it to law enforcement. Doc even said they did. What are you trying to say?
Think of women too. The modern woman. His wife has not initiated divorce yet. If he was guilty the money train would be over. If she is one of the few with a soul then she would initiate divorce if he is guilty. I therefore argue with the weakest front that because divorce is not initiated doc is not lying and will win a lawsuit. good for him. any thot's?
What ever happened to false accusations with no evidence just by word be getting prosecuted?? That’s illegal defamation
"Are you gonna prove it?" Are you fucking serious? Someone accuses you, they have to prove it. What a scary world it is...
Edit: I really can't with some of these responses. People saying he "admitted it", like are you actually braindead? A lot of things are considered to be inappropriate, like making dark jokes, but people are fucking hypocrites acting like they're angels.
Also showing the messages is stupid, even if he could, imagine having sent the "wrong meme", in this fucked generation, he would never hear the end of it.
Just remember, one day it could be you who is the one who is wrongfully accused. And people will not even listen to what you have to say, the damage has been done. All because of a bunch of zombies believing you're GUILTY, until proven innocent. Good - fucking - job 👏🏼
Exactly he has to prove nothing. Let them prove it. And they can’t.
not sure if sarcastic
He admitted to it though lol
He literally could've just released the messages to clear himself, but instead, he admitted the messages were inappropriate and is telling everyone to just trust him...
@@WoeBringer1195What grain sandpaper do you use to get your brain so smooth? "Smooth like babies bum!"
I hope Dr.Disrespect sues Twitch and Connor into the ground
I thought you said Concord 🤣
Twitch and Amazon have hella money
Dr Disrespect sued Twitch right after he was banned and it was settled between the parties (got paid out) years ago. That's why he couldn't talk about it as it was part of the agreement
@@MAJ4K THAT'S THE DOC'S $ NOW.
He can't sue twitch because twitch hasn't broken the agreement. Cody did. Cody is not twitch that's why doc is not releasing any documentation because twitch the company has not spoken about the incident a former disgruntled employee has
Crazy people assume the word inappropriate as sexual, so if anyone has ever told a crude joke or said anything a minor should not have heard is the same as DOC by that logic.
The accusations are he’s a ped. He doesn’t deny.
“I cANt BeLIeve pEOple KnOW IM a pEDO”
They had their minds made up before the accusations even started. Just another tool handed to them to bring him down. You know more accusations coming after this.
@@WadeAlma what are you even talking about???
He kinda confessed and went silent for 4 months and he's talking this BS, did you guys forget already 👺
@@Dhoulmegus makes no sense 🤦
Leave this man alone. Obviously during his silent period, the issue was litigated to determine where no crime happened. Speculating otherwise after this matter, and adding to it, contributes on your part to the further slander and defamation of his character.
This isn't even his final form
Ooh no it isnt, he is just powerlevling rn for the arena
His final form is EDP445
@@Mohgensteinhow much Haterade do you drink daily?
What did you say his power level is?
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 It’s not hate! EDP is a victim of cancel culture like doc!
Maybe he is going to sue him, he just isn’t making it public
sounded like it. easy defamation case. easy money.
@@goblinphreak2132I mean I doubt Cody has anything lol
looks like he's cooking a lawsuit against Twitch too. Since the alleged leak was from them too.
None of our business what is he going to do. Who cares.
@majora919 you don't just use for money. You sure poor people to make them suffer.
Not everything needs to be publicly announced. Doc will sue off camera. In private with his legal team
Yeah really expected Asmon to understand this
@@jimjohnson6944 " b-b-but then I can't make a video about it the second it's released saying I don't care about it at all it's just entertaining and content broooo"
"I can't release the messages but I can talk about it" -PDF.disrespect.doc
If he sues, it goes into public court. It’s a civil trial. It’s public. That’s the dumbest fucking take
That's how he moves. A true professional.
Declared not guilty by Court. But public still thinks Doc is Guilty. Meaning outcomes of Court Cases don't really matter. People will believe what they want.
Unfortunately, people believe what they want to believe.
But if he doesn't make a case against the person that leaked it then something is wrong right? He is not saying: "i''m having my lawyer look at it." So then not only me but a lot of other people are thinking: "something is in those messages"
I will say I never heard anything ever about a Victim saying anything about him. It was only the ex employee saying it and then everyone just running with it as fact
he literally confessed on twitter.
@@lup7271 And did you read that confession to begin with? Or just heard about it from random youtuber and just copied-pasted his opinion into your brain?
Because i did read it back in the day, and he said there almost the same things he said here - "These were casual, mutual conversations that sometimes leaned too much in the direction of being inappropriate, but nothing more. Nothing illegal happened, no pictures were shared, no crimes were commited. I never even met the individual."
Plain and simple - "Sometimes were inappropriate, but not sexual"
@@lup7271 he just said in the video it was bait, bro do you even listen.
@@mixamaslyea but why inappropriately text a minor? And according to what he said the minor was within the age of consent and what he texted didn't legally count as csam, which is WEIRD wtf was bro texting were his defense has to be that it didn't technically count as csam and that the minor consented like bro I don't know about you but if your defense is that it legally isn't csam.....
@@forgottenflipflops Am i seriously the only one thinking what you just said is insane?
"His tweet was a bait", a BAIT? BAITING people by confessing; being weird around kids? In 2024, this is just normal now?
The fact people think the tweet just being a "bait" it okey...is insane to me.
Twitch, unreliable and not trustworthy in the same sentence? Who would have ever thought.
dude literally admits to talking to minors ON HIS OWN TWITTER lmao
World changing news right there
@@konstantinkrastev4478
And? He's not a predator that's the point
Plenty of people dog pilled on him, check out some of the comments on his channel left by gullible fools.
@@konstantinkrastev4478 Johnny Depp ADMITTED to visiting children's hospitals and engaging with fans who were minors!!!1 there's even VIDEO EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111
Innocent until found guilty, judge found him not guilty. Good enough for me.
No thats not what happened at all. It was settled OUT of court. You want to believe him, go ahead, but dont lie.
@@jamesrevere2992How will you feel when he wins lawsuits against cody and pockets some big change?
@@jamesrevere2992you obviously don’t know anything about the court system. Twitch wouldn’t have settled out of court if they thought the judge would find him guilty. Twitch knew they were gonna lose so they settled out of court. Which means they didn’t have the proof they claimed they had
@@jamesrevere2992 you proved his point in your own statement and you didn't even realize it. Now thats funny
a 40+ year old man with a wife and kids, with a history of sexual misconduct, was chatting with 17 year old.
Timmy got where he is today because of the Doc and he threw him under the bus faster than you could blink. Tim's a sellout coward.
We get it you would defend your friends if they messaged a minor
@@starboy5653oh no, he messaged a minor 😢😢
curb your virtue signalling
@@starboy5653Messaging minors is not illegal.
He didn't message a minor.
Getting banned for something and actually doing something are two different things.
He was banned over an accusation that was levied at him. They settled with an NDA.
The ex-employee lied about the whole situation for attention.
@@WolfRaven-jm1cm Nah, I can't believe they would throw him under the bus like that. I can see that in a few months they will be trying to suck up to him because their channels are dieing because of their dried up content
@@starboy5653 apparently she wasnt even a minor hence no action taken, now what ?
If I was suing someone I wouldn't mention it until they were served. Gives me an upper hand in preparation.
True. BUT if i was 100% sure i would win and have all the proof, i would announce the hell out of it just to so the other end would not sleep well for many nights until at court
You act like they get pulled into court the day of. They will have the same amount of time to prepare regardless.
@@TheAns51 So you'd give up your ability to win. You've never been to court before, you NEVER tell anyone publically that you're going to sue someone even if you were certain you were going to win.
Because while you know you are going to win, the case might take far longer now that the other party has more preperation. In some caeses, it gives them the chance to flee the country before you can file.
If what Doc is saying is true, why would you even want to give Cody or Twitch the chance? Especially Twitch because they're a massive corperation that can just pay to have you waited out.
There's no point in openly saying that you're going to sue someone and in a lot of cases it makes it even harder to win. Honestly, just let it play out. If Cody is sent into generational poverty then that's on him, if twitch gets a chunk of money ripped out from their pocket then that's on them.
The court of internet creatures without showers isn't the same a civilized society. Aka, wait until the legal documents drop and when they do, calm yaself and carry on with your day.
@mackinator you have to comb through the information, decide what charges can stick and what can't, and then create an argument to support your claim and different approaches to pushing your point. That last bit is important, that takes the most time and preparation.
He already proved innocence to the court of law, the internet is now acting like a court demanding proof of the proof 😂
There was never a trial. As asmond said his guilt is a forgone conclusion it just is true he admitted it. All we need now is just how bad was it.
People dont like him, thats why they are trying to ride him.
a lot of things that are skeazy as fuck are legal. clearly he did nothing illegal but, that doesn't make his actions right. until we know what those texts were I reserve the right to say even Doc knows he fucked up.
Aight man lets assume court found him innocent, what the fuck is R. Kelly doing in jail?
@@matt6387 there was nevr a trial because there was no actual evidence against doc because he didnt do anything you muppet
there was no trial, however a court did examine the evidence and conclude there was no wrongdoing
you only go to trial if the court decides the evidence is significant enough that theres an actual case
jesus christ imagine if all it took to put someone on trial was a baseless accusation, thats some 1984 shit bro...
When a 40+ year old man says "Actually , she was of the age of consent in that particular legal jurisdiction" He knows he's wrong.
The burden of proof is on the accuser. Show the messages, Cody.
Or you know, the person being accused could just as easily exonerate himself and show the messages. I dunno about you, but if I was accused of being a pdf and I wasn't, I'd just share the messages so people can see it isn't as weird as everyone is making it out to be. It's not like he doesn't have them. The thing went to court, so clearly he has the logs and when asked about it, he deflected the topic by saying "what are we, schoolkids?".
@@Danny2k34well there's still a loop hole for speculation since people would just say he's hiding parts of the messages, it's better if the accuser is the one who's going to release said messages
It's possible he could be baiting either Cody or someone else to release the message so he has more legally to go after them with... Just an idea.
@@justamoogle5268 just have both release the messages, then it can all come to light, the truth and the lies. i get this feeling it would be pretty easy to figure out which is which after comparing and contrasting.
@@thewatcher5079 if you know how cases work the accuser always have the burden of truth, it's more likely that Dr disrespect is being careful on what he can release as per his lawyer's suggestion
"The judge in the case determined that the whispers were not illegal."
even if they saw the chats and he was innocent they would find another way to find him in the wrong. bunch of sheep in a jury box.
Being found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is your guys' bar? Idgaf if his actions were legal. Bro is a father and married and admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor. Then he goes here and yells about the age of consent in different states and yall go "yup seems all good"
@@quinn7427 i agree that it's weird for him to be messaging somebody younger than him, but if it's legal where he lives, and legal where she lives, then i don't see what the issue is
What he did is morally wrong and speaks bad about him as a person in general but still, blame the justice system since his actions clearly aren't illegal by law.
@@quinn7427
@@Yeti_StrainofSR exactly, release the messages and now the cherry picking is now 10x worse.
Docs lawyers most likely told him NOT to speak about ongoing lawsuits. This is normal standard practice, because some people may say something that hurts their own case in court. And we all know that Doc would say something bad and get in trouble. But he could've said, that actions will follow his statement, but not 100% clarify it.
Well one of the reasons to not talk about it is if the case involves a jury, anyone who has any knowledge of the case outside of the trial is not eligible to be a juror. Jurors have to make decisions about a case based solely on the information presented during the trial.
Yeah it can sometimes take years for a lawsuit to be filed so announcing that you are making a high profile lawsuit like this is never recommended until the lawsuit is already secure.
In some cases it's fine, like Trump suing the NYTimes, because every piece of evidence was public and easy to find. There were no DMs that could be deleted or staff members to be fired and scrubbed off the former employee lists.
In a case like this where the second a lawsuit is mentioned the other party could legally delete any and all evidence of their wrong doing before the paperwork is filed so an announcement does nothing but hurt your case in the long run
I've watched a streamer blow up his own lawsuit because he couldn't stop talking about it on stream. Any word said on stream can be dragged into court and used against you. That's why the golden rule during any lawsuit is to not talk about it.
Yea until he publicly admitted to doing something wrong and now he's back tracking. He literally shot himself in the foot on this one. A lot of people will have problems believing what he said or did from now on
@@marksmanof117b Yeah i also know such a streamer, but i can't remember the name and it drives me crazy 😡 Otherwise i would've mentioned it as an example in my post.
Edit: I think it was Asmon watching a Video, where he said by himself that it would've been better to say nothing. But in this special case it's not really about what will happen inside of a lawsuit. What's most important rn is public opinion. Imo really hard to tell which move would be the best one, since we don't know details and only they know the actual truth.
"stop hating." What a stupid comment. I love how people blindly defend people they don't know. If you are married and your spouse is texting minors, there's a problem regardless of legality.
I’m pretty sure if he’s planning on taking legal action about it, it would be stupid to show the public all the “evidence” before legal proceedings begin.
Exactly this
Exactly - and people said doc being quiet was evidence of wrongdoing - no, it was evidence of an ongoing court case
The amount of times he edited the word "minor" in and out of his Twitter post is disturbing.
He’s not going to do anything in the legal realm. This is the classic Trump tactic of attack when you know you’re caught and cornered. Yet his grift continues because he knows he can scam money off his loser supporters that don’t care about married man in his 40’s is messaging minors and can’t even deny that in his multi hour stream . Very gross
@@AndrewB383 This surprises me zero. Common internet denizens are not known for their common sense.
people need proof to believe a person is innocent, but don't need proof to believe a person isn't, what a world
You mean like when Mr.Beast try to sue everyone going against him
Innocent until proven guilty yeah sure but just because someone might not be proven guilty doesn't exactly mean they are innocent.... You can be innocent by a legal stand point but not by a moral stand point or just be a creepy by any stand point depending on the person
@@Homewarfare He sueing Twitch for violating the term of both parties do not talk about the court, win or lose doesn't have anything related to the fact that he is messaging a minor.
Cuz they are haters
@@Homewarfarelisten to what you just said
Watching Asmon go from calling doc a pedo to saying "I don't care about this" is wild....... this back peddle should be studied..😂
Training for the paralimpics i guess..... that backstroke is world record shit.....
Asmon is very dumb though, he even says so himself
@@fgklfglhfyeah well he should keep his mouth shut like he did for Rich. Funny thing is in Rich’s situation he had MORE than common knowledge but still knew to stfu until the chips fell. People ought to learn by now that social media isnt a courtroom. 😂
Yea, we all know sometimes Asmon has some shitty takes, and his take on the Doc at the beginning of this was part of that category. Now all he can do is back pedal and downplay as much as he can as to not seem like he jumped on the Doc hate wagon.
He only "doesnt care" until the situation gets to a point of where Asmond has to say Doc should sue this "Cody" guy for saying that Doc is a pedo😂 its the classic "im saying sue him for saying it, i wasn't the one who said it, not me not ever" move 😂😂
For those who are wondering, there is NO state in the US that age of consent is under the age of 18, this is a federal law that the state does not have the authority to change. However, parents of the minor may give legal consent if the person is under the age of consent and is within a certain age limit. *The more you know*
Concord died and DrDisrespect resurrected, what a week.
??? He legit sext an minor. courts swayed it because in the state the person was in, 16 is legal age with parent guidance. so HOW in the fuk... Bruh he was married and has a kid and ADMITTED to it in a tweet a while back. are we losing it? he's backpedaling HARD becuz money is involed. Only underdogs can force his way out of this one.
Edit: He got banned for sexual abuse, not sexting. This wordgame is AMAZING twitch is in the wrong, doc is in the wrong. both are TRASH bruh holy crap
Hallelujah
He return to play in concord with friends, but...
@@fdnfdnasd7714 Concord isn't even on this earth bro and I don't think that the doc would drop 40$ for that shit fest
@@suzanapipus6289 did u know the conception of joke?)
If Doc and his legal team are preparing to file a lawsuit, they aren't going to show ANYTHING until after litigation is pretty much finished.
Never see anyone announced their lawsuit before they actually doing it, it's just DrDisrespect lame attempt to save his face.
@@strawberryblender lol what?
@@bart3736 Dumb fan already confirm he innocence so his move is brilliant
@@strawberryblender isn't it always guilty until proven innocent?
correction . thats how our justice system is "supposed" to work
I think people are also forgetting that twitch had to pay out docs contract on the bias of a wrongful termination further proving all docs points.
And that was old news! Can’t wait to see what twitch tries next
@beyblade25 I think you forgot how law works. It's possible to do a morally awful action like he most likely did and still not doing something illegal. Just think about why the messages are not shown by him as proof. It might be because people would be disgusted by his action and he couldn't recover from that, even if there would be not consequences by law
It's a legal issue now. If he's suing, he's not going to say it yet. Secondly, he's reading, clearly, off stats about the case first hand about Twitch not finding any wrong doing. He DIDN'T do it.
If he did some weird shit with a young girl, my friends... Why the fuck would his WIFE stay with him with a YOUNG DAUGHTER. NO MOTHER would stay with a man who was a suspected pedophile.
No one in their right mind would announce a lawsuit over a stream before he actually did it...
People do it all the time. Do you live under a rock? People even use it to threaten people. I know, shocker 😮
@@bobbob1278 I mean he did clarify with "No one in their right mind".
😂😂@@perox9695
@@bobbob1278 Threats and doing something about it are two very different things.
I just want to make sure everyone knows. He was accused of something. NOT CONVICTED.
Also Indictment/indicted doesn't mean Convicted.
He also admitted to it. He admitted to texting a minor while he is in his 40's and married with a kid. All I need to know to draw my judgment about him.
@@TheVenhammer He said it wasn't sexual in the first 10 minutes of the video, Stop rushing to comments before watching video ffs
@TheVenhammer You've never been falsely accused of anything in your life and your comment shows that. Do better as Brett Cooper says and next time watch the video.
@@kennymichaelalanya7134 Yeah I sure haven't, although I can certainly say that my first move if I was falsely accused wouldn't be to ADMIT to whatever I was being accused of on twitter. The actual brain rot on you people is hilarious.
Everything doc says is border line inappropriate that’s why we watch him
Dude, you can’t if he’s suing Cody if it’s in arbitration, he can’t speak about it. You know that right and the chick was 17 legal consent in 70% of the states in America.
Bewildering how someone now has to prove to you they are innocent. Rather than being proved he is guilty. Freaks in this world now.
Yep, plenty of them here on youtube as well. Go read some of the disgusting comments left by fools on his channel. They should be ashamed.
cancel culture is strong in smooth brains
He admitted to inappropriately messaging a minor? He is a fucking creep dawg
@@Brainwashedgoat an inappropriate message to a minor on twitch could be telling a kid to jump off a bridge for streamsniping you. Not any better just sayin everyone likes to lean on sexual end of inappropriate when there are many meanings to that word.
@@BrainwashedgoatLmao, it’s ironic how your own comment can easily be used against you.
1: You’re on a public platform, just like he was.
2: You’re messaging random people on the internet you know nothing about, just like he was.
It is a fact you texted a minor in this platform at some point. But you’re not calling yourself a creep now, are ya?
A lot of people talk to minors, that doesn’t make anyone a creep.
Asmon: "Yeah I don't really know if Jimmy aka MrBeast is guilty or not I wasn't there"
Also Asmon: "DRDisrespect is guilty"
Asmon your bias is showing (and insecurity)
I mean if DRd was baiting everyone with the tweet and shit and couldn't talk on any of it, it's understandable if people believed some shit.
Here after this Asmon seems like he's very fence sitting but leaning in doc's favor somewhat.
If Doc hadn't posted what appeared to be admitting guilt 🤣
Doc said he was inappropriate with a minor. If a dude tells me he's a pedo I don't think he is kidding and then leave him with children. I take him at his word. All this means is Doc's word aint worth shit and he also doesn't understand defamation.
@@nova5224 inappropriate could mean a million things. If I told a minor they are a dumb PoS that would also be inappropriate no?
Everyone saying Doc needs to show the receipts. On the flip side, if Connor has those receipts and wanted to bury Doc why didn’t he show them? Probably because the claims he’s making aren’t factual…
Doc hasn't even denied what was said. He said that no acts of sexting were found, but that doesn't mean sexually charged conversations didn't happen. Doc admitted to inappropriate messaging with a minor in response to grooming allegations. I don't know what else that could refer to.
@sumicmusic is having an inappropriate conversation only ever sexually charged to you?
@@sumicmusic Inappropriate messaging could very easily mean vulgar (not sexual) language and jokes, could mean stupid inappropriate innuendoes, innuendoes do not necessarily mean its "sexually charged".
@sumicmusic We have no idea what was said, what is there to deny?
@@sumicmusic He said there was no sexting and nothing graphic and characterized it as banter, what more of a denial do you want when the allegations made were vague?
If that kid had committed a crime, said person would have been tried as an adult. Doc needs to sue twitch.
If he didn’t go to jail for it and it was ruled out that nothing inappropriate was exchanged, then he doesn’t need to show anything. The people that needed to see what was said saw it. If it was the other way around, Doc would be in jail.
Because sexisting requires exchange of illegal material. If they simply had sexual conversation it would not be sexisting from my understanding.
@@-PureRogue Sexting to me is having a sexually driven conversation but it might've been crude jokes or so
It's not that easy bud
Ew the fact u cant see that just because its not illegal its not creepy is nasty🤢🤮
@@Odyssey636 I don’t even know what was said. What the fuck are you talking about?
During all this let us just remember how badly YT wanted to defame PewDiePie for the longest time because he was burying everyone else in terms of views and exposure. When YT wanted to push their favorite UA-camrs instead.
Just something to keep in mind.
EDIT: I see the narrow mindedness that I didn't prep for, so this is for you
Before you say "ah but Pewds didn't talk to a minor" listen, how do we know *YOU* haven't talked to a minor, you're behind a wall of security and anonymity by being nobody, you don't have a name in this business, but I can tell you for sure one thing, if you were, and the higher ups got tired of you, they would dig and rake through every ounce of dirt on you that they could find and in some cases distort or fabricate things just to rid themselves of you so they can push *THEIR* channels that they want pushed. (All the Twitch girls in this case)
If Guy is legally in the clear, then he has done nothing wrong and we should respect that, if Guy *DID* do something wrong, I can trust the woke weirdos would have made sure to bury him in one swift go, but they didn't have the evidence to do so.
Now; the people who watch Asmon and claim they are open-minded, are now hellbent on burying a guy found innocent of any wrongdoings... Maybe you're not as openminded as you guys make yourselves seem, maybe you're part of the problem with cancel-culture.
I dont think pewdiepie talked inappropriately to a minor and then now says it was all a prank
This community is so weird defending a guy that admitted he was hitting on minors
Damn I don't remember him talking to a minor though
@@lopoa126hitting on? You don't know that. 'Inappropriate' can mean lots of things conversationally. Still bad, very bad, but to say "hitting on" when you do not know that to be true is poor on your part.
@@lopoa126 He never did that though, people take assumptions from vague information.
If my private DMs with my friends were leaked, we'd probably be in maximum security prison
Edit: This joke seems to have flown over some people's heads.
yikes
Which type of pictures are in those DM's you're worried about going to prison for them? 🤔
@@lukewarmape603 Ben 10 Alien X power scale
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That’s disturbing, keep your animals and little children inside people when u meet this person
Shouldn’t have been privately communicating with children anyways. Age of consent doesn’t make them an adult. Arguing that is disgusting in itself.
Wtf is asmon going on about? He doesn't need to prove he is innocent. It was proven in court he is. If anything after all of this, its Cody that has to prove that he did what he did. Period.
Not being found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is not the same as being proven innocent. I don't think a married man with children inappropriately messaging a minor is chill but you do you ig
Exactly. Its feeding into the cancel culture even more. Pleading his case to people who hate him is a waste of time.
Nah Asmon is right. Sure, he has no legal consequences anymore (or for now anyways) but nowadays, the impression in the public eye is way more important and to eliminate the stain of it, he has to sue Cody for defamation if he deems what Cody said was false to clear his name in the public eye which lets be honest, is actually the most important thing.
Why do you think difamation lawsuits exist for? Just sit down and think about it for a while, you'll answer your own comment with time.
obviously he doesnt need to prove he's innocent but that doesnt mean others arent gonna look down on him for what hes being accused of
For men, it's guilty even when proven innocent.
I live this. I have the EXPEUNGED WITH PREJUDICE EPO document in my house framed. my ex's family has still never contacted me. Fuck em all.
He admitted to inappropriately message a fucking minor. he admitted to it.. Lol??
Nailed it.
Even then when proven innocent you'll still be perceived as guilty by other who don't know any better and by those who won't teach them any better.
He might have done nothing illegal, but the entire situation is still immoral and weird to be having inappropriate conversations with someone 16-17 while he is mid 30s with a wife; it's disgusting behaviour even if not illegal, and that's why it's still an L for Doc. No idea why people think this looks good on him.
The NDA was broken by Twitch, not by Doc. If he released messages he would be doing the very thing he is chastising them for. He's not breaking the NDA other than to respond to what they have said. He answered all questions, didn't commit any crimes, and is clear in my book because he's innocent until proven guilty. Good for him, and good for everyone who stayed quiet until he came out with this statement.
My theory is twitch has him under there thumb because he got the total contract payment after his ban making legal action really difficult but im not a lawyer :)
How can he even release the messages if his account is banned for years already?
@@EXswing his legal team would have gotten all of the in discovery.
He is the accused. He is innocent until proven guilty and if hes so fucking guilty then why hasnt anyone shown any proof?
The NDA was broken by a ex twitch employee kid. He no longer worked at Twitch and had no relation to them at the time of the leak. Twitch themselves didn't break anything
Heres something ive never seen addressed. For YEARS, the Doc used the fact that Twitch banned him with no reason whatsoever, as a way to rally fans for him and against Twitch. And i get he was legally prohibited from talking about why he was banned. BUT...he knew why, he has known why for years. But misled his fanbase. He could have said that he wasnt allowed to discuss why. But he chose to say he was mever given a real reason, but he knew that whole time.
What would YOU have done??? Say you "can't talk about it"? That's absolutely not the strategic way to handle it
@@hipplel well theres a "strategic" way to handle things, which kinda seems slimey and very much like a politician.
And then the "doc" way, which he proclaims is being too real and not having a filter and thats why "they" dont like him.
But both cant be true. You cant be "real", and mislead your fan base because of questionable things youve done.
I truly hope nothing really happened, and it was just a mistake blown out of proportion. BUT there are waaay to many people that dont seem to care and will just believe him 100% no matter what, when he has shown he will do whats "strategically" best for him and his channel, which isnt always the 100% truth
Doc could release something that looks like Twitch Whispers and people would still say the evidence was…”doctored”…
also, releasing the logs will only give millions of dishonest actors ammo to take him out of context
yup
@@snuffeldjuret
you got it. im glad there are a few real ones left
now i kinda wish he sues the ex twitch employees for defamation
@@Fredgilb29we don't even know if it's a girl LMFAO
@@Fredgilb29Dude, he said that Doc wanted to meet up with the person he messaged at a twitch con.
@@Fredgilb29 He already stated it was taken out of conext/banter and there was no mention they were meeting/ wanted to meet.
he probably will/is, which is why he isn't showing messages cause they're part of the case, and he isn't mentioning the case as its active.
it's not defamation if it's true. And he literally admitting to it in his Tweet so he is going to have a tough time with that lawsuit lol
i hope doc doesnt talk to mercs or tim again for throwing him under the bus
Same. Showed everyone's true colors.
Nickmercs and Tim did the right thing
Nah, Doc was radioactive man. I can't blame them for protecting their image through that time.
@@Pokibean I would also throw my friend under the bus if he literally confessed with a very vague confession to talking to minors now they could've talked in private but whether they like doc or not it would have ruined their careers if they had stayed on his side.
@@wkkqewqaver7766 Good for you?
Even if the other was a minor, if even Twitch ITSELF judged the messages as NOT being 's*xting', and NO explicit images were exchanged, and there was NO intention to meet,
THERE IS NO CRIME. Period. It is NOT illegal to exchange normal messages with a minor.
Why do people demand evidence that he did NOT do something? It's on the ACCUSER to prove the accused is guilty, NOT the other way around.
Ya, it’s like people just assume it’s wrong or illegal to have messages with a minor? He’s growing his brand and gets probably 1000 messages a day he’s going to interact. So many people just project their rape issues onto this situation. It’s disgusting
Because it’s the internet and people are dumb. You would have to know what the law is on sexting. I mean we have seen perverts walk who were baited to meet people by someone pretending to be a minor. So Idk. I’m sure if someone cared enough they could look into it and see what the legal standards are and if being found to have not committed a crime is a good standard or not. Cause in some cases it obviously isn’t. But idk. Idc about him. I don’t have a dog in the fight. I don’t believe he did anything wrong because I haven’t seen any evidence of his wrongdoing. If he were grooming her or whatever I feel like that would come out. But he should just release the messages. I would if I were him. But maybe he doesn’t have them or isn’t allowed to. Idk.
#1 suing people costs more money
#2 cody doesn't have fucking 2 pennies to rub together to pay a defamation case lmao
maybe, but you gotta send a message
@MrWinczakos what message? Lmao the ADD public is not going to care about any of this shit in 2 weeks dude🤣🤣🤣
@@joemama2455 who gives a fuck about the public, but you gotta stomp some worms out financially
Well, getting him to file for bankrupcy and tank his credit score is also a form of punishment
@@MrEvans1drdisrespect will lose more money if he sues Cody. But can definitely sue Twitch again to get more money, then twitch will sue Cody out of pettiness.
100% hes going to sue. Him and twitch. Thats what he meant by playing chess. He let them break the gag order attached to the settlement. He let them keep going intentionally. The stream was to make his losses publicly known. And prepare his case.
Dead baby jokes are typically considered inappropriate, yet rarely are they sexual.
huh?
This is what I'm thinking - probably some horrible jokes exchanged. I remember when my company implemented Lync (the Microsoft IP-tel system) back in the day. The database with all the unencrypted user messages sent to each other was available to me.
I was doing some work in that database once to do with a web interface for finding conversations, found really inappropriate jokes sent between two people along these lines.
It was just banter, but that kinda shit would have got them cancelled... told them and they shit themselves!
Well that was probably more distasteful than anything doc said
@@DeuceGenius One could say it was down right inappropriate.
@@zaneshaw8218 it was an example of something that some might call inappropriate. And it was also a joke. It was two things at once.
Whether he was innocent or not does not take away the fact that he was the adult. He should know better than to engage in a conversation with a minor like this. This nearly cost him his career.
Doc: Neither I nor the Twitch user exchanged any sexually graphic messages or images
Doc: Cody tried to paint the picture that I exchanged sexually explicit messages or images with the user, that never happened
Asmon: Goes on a tangent about the definition of "sexting" as if that's the only term doc used to describe the scenario
Asmon: He's being intentionally vague..
To be fair to Asmon, he probably got caught up in the live stream and wasn't fully understanding everything doc said. It is clear that doc's statement was written ahead of time and I would guess that one or several attorneys contributed to it. Even I had to re-watch the video to understand everything Doc said.
Did doc admit also that the messages sometimes leaned TOWARD inappropriate?? Am I the only person that knows if you’re heading toward something that you’re not fucking there yet? lol like I can’t be the only one.
@@jacktheclapper_9330he did admit it was inappropriate, but nothing sexual. Inappropriate can meant to many things, like dark jokes, cussing, etc
Explain to me why i see all these people saying "show proof, show the messages" when did Cody EVER show proof. When did cody EVER back up his claims
I’m on Dr side but showing will be more impactful. If someone accuses me on stealing and i prove it was wrong best believe i better win the lawsuit
@@haroldliriano5394 You don't show your evidence to the public, you wait and show it in court. Doc did this, and won his suit. It wasnt some out of court settlement where Twitch agreed not to talk about it but doc agreed to never contact or use Twitch again, no, it WENT TO COURT and an actual judge arbitrated that no crime was committed, aka Doc 'won' the lawsuit because no wrongdoing was found, and thus that his contract was terminated unfairly. That's why Twitch had to pay him out for its remainder.
Every single person who is 100% sure doc did something wrong, what exactly did he do that was wrong? A court (and twitch's internal team) deemed it 'not sexting' so what does that leave you? "It was still inappropriate" okay, and (wait for it, wait for it) twitch's internal team, once again, deemed it not against their policies/ToS. So what's left? Oh doc "admitted" it in a tweet? What did he admit, EXACTLY? Because it wasn't 'sexting'.
If Cody actually dropped "evidence" aka even just screenshots of the logs, Doc would have to respond to them or try to ignore it, or even play the 'those messages are fake that screenshot is fake' angle, which even still would be him being forced to respond. But nothing? Not a single person from the massive corporation full of blue haired fembeasts that hate Doc because he's a CARICATURE of everything that they hate, ever leaked the messages or told some journalist what he had said? Bit strange, innit? "B-but Twitch was legally not allowed to talk about it" yeah that's what leaks are for. And yet nothing was leaked until a SINGLE DISGRUNTLED *EX* EMPLOYEE decided to start tweeting about it but only to tell people to give his band attention or he wouldn't provide details?
I dunno kev, kinda makes you think.
The Doc admitted to it. What more proof do you need? Lol
@@TermiJP define "it"
@@TermiJP having a conversation with a minor is not illegal. he was accused of SEXUAL messages and wanting to meet up with them. the fact it was sent to the goverment for exploited children 4 years ago is all the proof you need
I totally get Doc's reaction. He's stayed silent while these MFers have been running around, slandering his name, destroying his career, based on shit they know wasn't true.
I really don't get why people act like false accusations are so rare. THIS is a prime example of exactly what a false accusation can do. I hope heads roll for this.
what i get from it he gave them more "ammunition" so they could dig theyr holes even deeper for juicier lawsuits in the future - might be false bravado trying to cover mistakes made but it would make sense to bait the people spreading lies to have better chance in defamation lawsuit
You eould have to proof that all the people spread lies knowing it was not the truth... he can't do that if he himself said that he had "inappropriate messages with a minor"
He literally write that the person was a minor him self, how people were supposed to react
@@SubZero-hs9xcDefine a minor
@@SubZero-hs9xc minor means VERY different things around the world ... or even in the USA ... one can be "minor and "legal" at the same time ... which is obviously a thing in this case where what DD did is NOT illegal confirmed by three independent "investigations"
which should be case closed for everyone
Ok here's my thoughts on the sueing Cody thing. This might have already been discussed with Docs legal team and there was 2 choices: A. Doc could sue Cody for defamation, probably win, spend a lot of time and money doing so, have to remain silent during the process.. and probably never get a single cent from Cody, but maybe win back a little bit of public favor if he could ever publicly speak about it. B. Doc could not file a suit, save the money, not go through more arbitration, and be able publicly speak out, probably gaining more public favor than a lawsuit would. At the end of the day option b is more financially sound and has a better outcome for docs business. Instead he gets to put this guy on blast and hope the court of public opinion does as much damage to Cody, as Cody did to him.
i hate poki and valk for being an snake in human form
classic women action
@@SB-nh7uv Classics never get old 😐
Wasn’t Ninja jumping on him too?
Add shroud in that snake list as well
wtf does poki and valk have to do with this? 🤣🤣🤣
I think everyone is missing the point about him not showing the messages. He claimed that the messages were typical online banter, which we all know can be easily skewed one way or another. Showing those messages will now open up the whole can of worms that started all of this to begin with.
Claim this, claim that. Complains about lack of context but provides none himself. “It wasn’t illegal!” Ok buddy, neither is a 30 year old man at a high school house party…but it sure does look weird
Plus twitch most likely isn’t giving him access to his account, second it’s (possibly) sealed discovery documents. Too many factors to make a strong opinion and stand on it. Key points, he didn’t sext a minor and he didn’t sexually abuse a minor. If this is different from the truth, twitch has free rein to disclose it due to both sides talking about it.
@@harveyflippers9531 Not if they're the home owner. It's almost like context is key, huh? Also, he no longer has the means to access those messages so he's in a tricky spot as far as him being able to provide that context.
@@harveyflippers9531 Comparing the gaming community to a high school party is a little far fetched.
@@Deliveryboxxgo easy on the girl dads they're broken.
Every chatter :show us the proof
A real person: the accuser needs to provide the proof for the crime, otherwise you can make shit up
That's the internet nowadays. Anyone can lie about anything and as long as it spreads, it's taken as proof. Absolutely mind boggling.
Dude, Doc said he was inappropriate with a minor. The whole "bait" thing is bullshit, he needs to prove otherwise. He made the claim, he is now denying that claim. Burdon of proof is on him.
I get what you're saying but brother i'll be honest if i ever get in trouble and I can prove it's all bs i'm not waiting for shit 🤣
@@cromotoccianoif you were in court you will otherwise they hold you in contempt
@@marktorres6385 yes, if I was in court I would wait for my turn like I'm at the dentist.
I believe Herschel 'Guy' Beahm should have approached this situation with more seriousness and presented himself as his true self, rather than as his online persona, Dr. Disrespect. Given his past controversies with cheating on his wife, it's particularly concerning. While the age of consent in many U.S. states and Canada is 16, it's still inappropriate for an adult man to be engaging with a 16 year-old in such a manner. It seems like he attempted to be discreet by using Twitch whispers, but was ultimately caught. Now, his statements appear to be more of a legal defense than an honest explanation. As a father myself, I understand the importance of such matters, and I believe it's crucial to avoid situations like this...
If a judge reviewed those messages and determined they were not inappropriate, that should be enough to settle the matter. However, I'm wondering-can doc still release the messages if the other person involved in the conversation doesn’t want them made public? Also, if he starts redacting parts of the messages, it could automatically lead people to wonder what else was redacted, potentially raising more suspicion.
yeah i agree with this furry commenter
@@null_wizard I also agree with this furry commenter
I agree with this furry commenter as well
It’s possible he doesn’t have access to them, besides what was in discovery and further, he may not be allowed to release said documents because the court has sealed them (for now)
all parties settled with NDAs and 'no wrong doing' agreements. so the messages will never get out because it would be chaos legally speaking
What exactly is this 'grey area' you're referring to, where you imply he did something wrong but not illegally? Inappropriate contact with minors is clearly defined by law, leaving little room for ambiguity. Given that Twitch, the user, and the authorities have all concluded that no wrongdoing occurred, your demands for additional evidence, such as text messages from arbitration, seem like an attempt to move the goalposts. This insistence on 'more evidence' after a thorough exoneration-where the only accusation has already been pre-refuted by all parties-reflects not only a refusal to accept the established facts but also suggests personal bias, or worse, personal cowardice.
As someone who is probably the same age as the good doc here, I could frankly care less about what the legal definitions are. You ain't gonna catch me talking in any kind of way to someone 21 and younger. Customer service level talk and thats about it. I could really care less about this, "oh but its legal", horseshit. Just don't interact with minors if you're an adult. If they can't drink, then don't speak to em. JFC why the fuck is the bar so low to just be a normal person. Shit for my own personal preference I'd bump it up to like 25 cause the rarity of meeting someone with their shit together even then is like an epic drop. So, is he legally cleared? Sure. Will I always look at him with a side-eye tho? You better fuckin' believe it until I hear otherwise. Fuckin, "they're legal in their jurisdiction" smh jfc
You can commit legal yet immoral acts. This twitch user was clearly above the age of consent, but they were also clearly younger than 18. If it turns out they were 18 or over then he’s a victim of character assassination. Any dude talking to someone with knowledge of their being younger than 18 should feel shame and receive public censure.
Agreed. Judge and law enforcement say innocent. Then he's fucking innocent. He doesn't have to prove shit. He was literally working away on stream and some prick says some shit on twitter and doc loses everything. Then ww find out the law cleared him. Then he doesn't have to prove anything.
@@jakeharland8345 lol, so you're saying an adult can't speak to someone younger than 18...gtfoh. he's not sent sexual messages as a judge said he didn't. Inappropriate can mean he swore or told the person to punch someone in the face. That would be Inappropriate. If a judge says innocent of any wrongdoing, then he doesn't need to prove anything. Some random that makes a post and suddenly the doc has to provide evidence he did nothing wrong? I could say you're a pdfile on twitter...then demand you show us every text on your phone.? Yeah...no.
@@SkieraSeven thats exactly what im saying
if my xbox 360 messages were ever seen, then i would probably be banned everywhere.
Just because YOU want to see the messages doesn't mean that he SHOULD show them. His lawyers probably don't want him to. So people saying Doc not showing the messages proves he's guilty are just stupid people. AT this point it's probably not even his decision.
the more true you are the more people will try to kick you down. Keep it real Doc.
Not gonna lie, in my eyes Doc is clean asf. Sure, his public image is soiled and no amount of talking is gonna completely fix it but I also can't see why people would still paint him as the "child s*xting pdfile" while
1- it wasn't s*xting
2- most parties that reviewed the messages confirmed it was ok
3- not even the supposed "child" was disturbed in the first place, it was his ex-manager purposefully choosing specific messages that seemed inappropriate without context.
I don't think this needs further reviewing unless the messages are out.
No one on the Epstein flight log has been arrested or even questioned publicly
In regards to #3. He was the adult. He knows better.
So why did he admit he had inappropriate conversations in his Tweet ??
@@kavid8120Define “inappropriate”, buddy.
Your other comment shows your lack of knowledge and understanding on the topic.
@@kavid8120 Definition from Cambridge Academic Content Dictionary: "unsuitable, esp. for the particular time, place, or situation". Not defending Doc, Cody or anything/anyone, but inappropriate can be used in many cases like: dressing up inappropriately to a place (using tank tops and beach trunks in a business corporation who requires business attire), eating inappropriately (ignoring proper manners like using your hands to grab and eat noodles instead of fork, or slurping an empty drink while making too much noise), behaving inappropriately (a kid in a classroom is being disruptive and disrespectful to the teacher and/or students), talking inappropriately (2 friends in school saying bad words, jokes, racist slangs, or saying sexual remarks, etc). Inappropriate can literally mean too many things.
You want the Doc to show proof of innocence. Why no ask Cody for proof of guilt?
Doc needs to show proof in order to defend his public image. By not showing proof or being allowed to show proof is hurting his public image, that's the problem.
He may have done nothing wrong legally, which is fine. But the public doesn't see that and that directly affects his ability to get sponsorships and conduct business.
Cody would need to be sued in order for him to show proof. You don't need to proof to call someone a predator, in the same way we freely call someone restarted or tell them to visit a home depot.
I am not a fan of Dr. Disrespect, but I don't believe that he can just walk away without repairing his public image.
@@SynthSy he is the one who brought this whole thing to the internet HIMSELF. Why should he have to show prove for something he told people himself? If I say I robbed a bank as a joke, why would I have to prove the world that I didnt? Dummy logic.
@@FatManJackson if someone accuses you of something, and you do not defend yourself. Anyone can take it as is, regardless if there is proof. That's why politicians and the media do it, it's free.
In order to turn it into defamation, you have to take them to court. Only then the accuser has to provide proof that what they're saying is in fact truth. It's dummy logic indeed, but that is how our society works.
It's so annoying so sad to have been a fan of docs. You all are cult like doc made the dang tweet are we pretending it was a real 5d chess move oh come on
Let me explain the definition of what doc did if true from how he described it he ruined his reputation, his fans, his company, and his friends all so in his own words he could get people to defame him so if that's true he used everyone around him to make money which is what a sociopath does.
He can't show the messages because it's all in the settlement. He literally just said the settle was that nobody was supposed to talk about it, and a party has recently violated that agreement.
Yes which means he’s now allowed to show it so if it wasn’t anything bad I don’t understand why he can’t show it
So he is now allowed to show the messages. The only thing that would stop him is if the person was indeed a minor when they were sent so would be legally locked up for their protection.
He wont show the messages because they are likely worse than he is describing. The easiest thing for him to do to shup people up was make them public and hide the identity of the 'victim'. If its just internet banter then people will shrug it off and move on but I think we both know its likely not the case.
@@MrWiggz69 exactly idk why people are acting like he’s somehow innocent now if there was a big enough reaction from people who saw the messages then clearly it’s pretty bad but it might be legal technically doesn’t mean he ain’t a fucking weirdo
@@iang.2451because he is
@@iang.2451 it's not that simple. There's prolly a lawsuit and all the proof need to be observed by proper authorities before it can be released.