I truly appreciate all the hard work you put in making these videos. Please kindly do a comparison with the Panasonic S5IIX in 4k ALL I 400mbs internally against the Sony FX3 in 4K. Let's see dynamic range, colour with manufacturer lut, V log vs S log3, autofocus etc . Love from Nigeria 🙏🏽
Nice comparison. I still like the FX9 with the XDCA module over Burano for half the price and use the savings for an FX3 or FX6 as B cam. There’s something special about the FX9 6k sensor that of course doesn’t exist in the FX3/6. All great cameras, but FX9 is still my favorite.
I just wanted to thank you for making this video - I haven't seen anyone talk about the Burano's low light abilities, and I was baffled why the camera was being promoted given the slower readout.
The strength of the Burano seems to be that it can work well as a solo operator and as a camera on big production workflows with ACs and a big postproduction pipeline. 8k, raw capabilities, electronic ND-system, the good color latitude, low light, good Ibis and af make it such a versatile camera
great work! I'm curious about how good the shadow details retention on FX3 is when shooting proresraw externally? it seems a nightmare when dealing with the noise?
nice comparison and points to consider which one over the other....depends the situation tasks and projects you are handling also the sony fx3 is nearing an update cycle i think.....👍
RAW us a killer feature indeed. Just needs to have appropriate clients that compensate for the extra burden of storage and extra fees that comes with it. Will stick with compressed XAVC HS (H.265) 4:2:2 10bit for now on my A7SIII and A7Rv. Also weather sealing and filming under rain and dusty weather is a big plus to those compact mirrorless cameras.
3:10 You can fiddle around with the picture profile color settings on the fx3 and match it to the burano. The raw data that comes off the sensor is processed by the parameters set on the picture profile, so if you do that, you'll 100% match the burano (color wise). You'll get rid of the orange/green warm tint that way and reduce the saturation. But this only works if you have two of the same lenses or at least the same line like the dzofilm vespids. This is the thing sony cameras really excel at. If they're the same gen you can pretty much match all of them
Burano’s strength in image quality is latitude. Dynamic range is a bit overrated as your image has to be squeezed down to 9-10 stops to look good. Latitude buys you more in what you can do with the final image. To date the only camera tested that beats the burano in latitude is Arri. And yes the burano has more latitude than the Venice 2. This is also the reason why Arri cameras look so good even against RED cameras
@@theowlfromduolingo7982 I meant in regards to latitude vs Dynamic range, as you need to throw away a bunch of stops on delivery. A good example is shooting on film, dynamic range wise film normally would print and a lower level than log video. But film was strong in latitude in which you could push and pull and recover. Also all DR comparisons are not equal in camera models and comparing one camera to next is not as straight forward as it's made out to be. The normally use cuts off at the shadows and the noise floor and a lot of times it doesn't take into consideration highlights retention. Because they always talk about noise floor in the shadows. However in you compare waveforms from cameras supposedly measured at the same DR you will see the highlights are preforming differently. This is also why some cameras have better highlight roll off when up against other cameras with the supposed same measured DR
@@RustyShackleford9000actually I’ve notice very little difference in pushing Raw vs XAVC. Both have been preforming very well and noticeably better then my Fx9 and FX6. Where you notice it is in the shadow push. Prior to the Burano I’ve alway said Sonys strength was in highlights it had better roll off than Canon, Blackmagic and even a lot of Red cameras, but I would see slightly better shadow performance in the high end canon C series cameras and what would always set Arri apart from Sony was shadow performance because of their combination of highlight performance and shadow combined . That’s why even with the newer cameras even though they said you didn’t have to I would still recommend over exposing slog3 even on FX cameras if you wanted better shadow detail and a cleaner image. With the Burano it’s a different story, shadows are finally clean much more pushable and combined with the highlight roll off you have the ability to get a really high end look. I would say arguably on par with an Alexa Mini. My friend that is a movie DP who owns a Alexa 35 and Mini agrees with me on this, what he says he really likes about the Burano is its color. Anyway back to XAVC vs Raw again XAVC has been preforming really well with the push so I’m pretty happy with that, raw just is not practical for a lot of stuff including hard core doc work. I did use the Raw codec for some stuff I shot for the Las Vegas Sphere so I’m interested to see how that will look in the Sphere this weekend
excellent tests,. but the underexposure recovery test on the fx3 looks incorrect. ive recovered 3-4 stops with better results on my zve1 and fx6. with better contrast and color
I definitely could have added the contrast back into the FX3 and graded it to look better. But I wanted to keep it as fair as possible. I did the same exposure lift to both clips from both cameras; otherwise, it would make the test pointless if you graded one more than the other, I believe.
@@OBP_ I think doing the same test inside Sony Catalyst Prepare would have been interesting, as it gives the FX3 RAW controls over the exposure, similar to the Burano
It would be really interesting seeing a comparison between the s5iix in prores 6k mode vs the Burano at full res, you wouldn't probably see any difference in sharpness and color (but half a stop less in dr)
I'm curious to know how the colors might have changed on the ZV-E1 compared to the FX3, and if it would fall more in line with the Burano than the FX3 does. Not surprisingly, nobody tests those two cameras (ZV-E1 and Burano) side by side.
If you could only see the benefits of a 26 thousand dollar camera in post production vs the FX3 this is clearly by far a win for the FX3. Personally I'd take my FX3 and fx30 with phantom luts or arri lutz over any camera to date
@@schoeferfilm not really, it lacks a lot of features that are considered important on a film set: cooling fan, dual slot recording, unlimited record times, shutter angle, XLR audio recording, full-size HDMI, raw video, CineEI mode, mounting points, built-in LUTs and other video-centric monitoring tools etc. Definitely not just marketing. With that said, ZV-E1 has some other tools that are useful for vlogging / self-recording that the FX3 doesn't have.
Unless you need autofocus, the Black Magic Cinema 6k and Panasonic S series cameras out shine the FX 3 with their 6k and better colors. I have an old Panasonic S1 and it holds up well to my Cinema 6k. Granted I use a Black Magic Video Assist and it turns the S1 into a full 6k power house. With both having Super 35 and open gate for true anamorphic modes, the Sony cameras have 4k 120 which I don’t think I need. Sony is too expensive for the same image quality.
Let me know if you have any questions that I might have missed in the video, and I will do my best to answer them here in the comments. 🙌
I truly appreciate all the hard work you put in making these videos. Please kindly do a comparison with the Panasonic S5IIX in 4k ALL I 400mbs internally against the Sony FX3 in 4K. Let's see dynamic range, colour with manufacturer lut, V log vs S log3, autofocus etc . Love from Nigeria 🙏🏽
This is actually just a great ad for the FX3.
right
Amazing add for fx3 😂
Nice comparison. I still like the FX9 with the XDCA module over Burano for half the price and use the savings for an FX3 or FX6 as B cam. There’s something special about the FX9 6k sensor that of course doesn’t exist in the FX3/6. All great cameras, but FX9 is still my favorite.
+1 for the FX9/FX3 combo
@@jasonmarotta9545 +2 , great combination . But can we have an fx9mk2 sometime soon .
Listen, the FX3 is basically my favorite camera. But the footage coming out of the burano looks soooo dang good.
I just wanted to thank you for making this video - I haven't seen anyone talk about the Burano's low light abilities, and I was baffled why the camera was being promoted given the slower readout.
The strength of the Burano seems to be that it can work well as a solo operator and as a camera on big production workflows with ACs and a big postproduction pipeline. 8k, raw capabilities, electronic ND-system, the good color latitude, low light, good Ibis and af make it such a versatile camera
great work! I'm curious about how good the shadow details retention on FX3 is when shooting proresraw externally? it seems a nightmare when dealing with the noise?
Just another reason to hug my fx3 tonight. Great vid, thanks for your efforts.
Treat her well
nice comparison and points to consider which one over the other....depends the situation tasks and projects you are handling also the sony fx3 is nearing an update cycle i think.....👍
As a fellow Burano owner I am loving the camera. Are you filming with noise reduction on?
I did run a few tests, when i first got it with NR. I end up sticking with it on and i am normally massively against it all other cameras i have used.
RAW us a killer feature indeed. Just needs to have appropriate clients that compensate for the extra burden of storage and extra fees that comes with it. Will stick with compressed XAVC HS (H.265) 4:2:2 10bit for now on my A7SIII and A7Rv. Also weather sealing and filming under rain and dusty weather is a big plus to those compact mirrorless cameras.
3:10 You can fiddle around with the picture profile color settings on the fx3 and match it to the burano. The raw data that comes off the sensor is processed by the parameters set on the picture profile, so if you do that, you'll 100% match the burano (color wise). You'll get rid of the orange/green warm tint that way and reduce the saturation. But this only works if you have two of the same lenses or at least the same line like the dzofilm vespids.
This is the thing sony cameras really excel at. If they're the same gen you can pretty much match all of them
Hey, was that filmed in Buxton?
Peak District National Park, so pretty much!
Been waiting for this one! Looking to upgrade to BURANO in near future from fx3
Burano’s strength in image quality is latitude. Dynamic range is a bit overrated as your image has to be squeezed down to 9-10 stops to look good. Latitude buys you more in what you can do with the final image. To date the only camera tested that beats the burano in latitude is Arri. And yes the burano has more latitude than the Venice 2. This is also the reason why Arri cameras look so good even against RED cameras
Dynamic range is overrated? How is so?
@@theowlfromduolingo7982 I meant in regards to latitude vs Dynamic range, as you need to throw away a bunch of stops on delivery. A good example is shooting on film, dynamic range wise film normally would print and a lower level than log video. But film was strong in latitude in which you could push and pull and recover. Also all DR comparisons are not equal in camera models and comparing one camera to next is not as straight forward as it's made out to be. The normally use cuts off at the shadows and the noise floor and a lot of times it doesn't take into consideration highlights retention. Because they always talk about noise floor in the shadows. However in you compare waveforms from cameras supposedly measured at the same DR you will see the highlights are preforming differently. This is also why some cameras have better highlight roll off when up against other cameras with the supposed same measured DR
By “latitude”, are you just referring to the Burano’s compressed raw codec?.
@@RustyShackleford9000actually I’ve notice very little difference in pushing Raw vs XAVC. Both have been preforming very well and noticeably better then my Fx9 and FX6. Where you notice it is in the shadow push. Prior to the Burano I’ve alway said Sonys strength was in highlights it had better roll off than Canon, Blackmagic and even a lot of Red cameras, but I would see slightly better shadow performance in the high end canon C series cameras and what would always set Arri apart from Sony was shadow performance because of their combination of highlight performance and shadow combined . That’s why even with the newer cameras even though they said you didn’t have to I would still recommend over exposing slog3 even on FX cameras if you wanted better shadow detail and a cleaner image. With the Burano it’s a different story, shadows are finally clean much more pushable and combined with the highlight roll off you have the ability to get a really high end look. I would say arguably on par with an Alexa Mini. My friend that is a movie DP who owns a Alexa 35 and Mini agrees with me on this, what he says he really likes about the Burano is its color. Anyway back to XAVC vs Raw again XAVC has been preforming really well with the push so I’m pretty happy with that, raw just is not practical for a lot of stuff including hard core doc work. I did use the Raw codec for some stuff I shot for the Las Vegas Sphere so I’m interested to see how that will look in the Sphere this weekend
@@magji2000 then what are you referring to when you say “latitude” if you don’t mean dynamic range or file data to work with?
This is what I use. They work well together
were you shooting 10bit on both cameras?
excellent tests,. but the underexposure recovery test on the fx3 looks incorrect. ive recovered 3-4 stops with better results on my zve1 and fx6. with better contrast and color
What do you think went wrong in this test?
I definitely could have added the contrast back into the FX3 and graded it to look better. But I wanted to keep it as fair as possible. I did the same exposure lift to both clips from both cameras; otherwise, it would make the test pointless if you graded one more than the other, I believe.
@@OBP_ interesting. My mistake. Have you tried it with exposure offset LUT on the Fx3?
@@OBP_ I think doing the same test inside Sony Catalyst Prepare would have been interesting, as it gives the FX3 RAW controls over the exposure, similar to the Burano
It would be really interesting seeing a comparison between the s5iix in prores 6k mode vs the Burano at full res, you wouldn't probably see any difference in sharpness and color (but half a stop less in dr)
I'm curious to know how the colors might have changed on the ZV-E1 compared to the FX3, and if it would fall more in line with the Burano than the FX3 does. Not surprisingly, nobody tests those two cameras (ZV-E1 and Burano) side by side.
If I get hold of a ZV-E1, I'll be sure to find out.
@@OBP_ That would be amazing! The ZV-E1 seems to be the completely unexpected filmaker's best friend..... Maybe. 😄
how do you compare the image of the FX3 vs Lumix S5ii
If you could only see the benefits of a 26 thousand dollar camera in post production vs the FX3 this is clearly by far a win for the FX3. Personally I'd take my FX3 and fx30 with phantom luts or arri lutz over any camera to date
These cameras are all so close nowadays. My Lumix s5iiX gets the job done for me on multiple levels.
Nice video, but the af test felt like you made it sound equal even thought the fx3 was clearly faster.
Yes, I had them both on the middle setting. You can turn up the Burano AF to be faster if needed.
at 2:40, do you say less "noisier" or "nicer"? your provided srt seems wrong, and autogenerated seems to be correct
he says noisy
Sony just dropped the Shutter Angle update for the Fx3, which is firmware 6.0 and 5.0 for Fx30 today!!!
The cheapest Sony full frame cam is my ZVE1 😅 my dream combo is my FX6 & my ZVE1 🎥 best cinematic greetings from germany
Cheapest full-frame "cinema" camera
@@OBP_ ok 🙈 but the ZVE1 has the same sensor as the FX3 i think
@@schoeferfilm yes but it's in the "vlogging" category, not "cinema" category
@@c.s.christopher5801 I think this is a marketing strategy 😂 for me it is a small cinema cam 😅
@@schoeferfilm not really, it lacks a lot of features that are considered important on a film set: cooling fan, dual slot recording, unlimited record times, shutter angle, XLR audio recording, full-size HDMI, raw video, CineEI mode, mounting points, built-in LUTs and other video-centric monitoring tools etc. Definitely not just marketing. With that said, ZV-E1 has some other tools that are useful for vlogging / self-recording that the FX3 doesn't have.
As a owner of FX6 I dream about Burano ❤
Yoo that's Chiswick house! This guy lives in west London 😂
False video quality comparison without recording ProRes RAW externally on the FX3.
F X FREE
Unless you need autofocus, the Black Magic Cinema 6k and Panasonic S series cameras out shine the FX 3 with their 6k and better colors. I have an old Panasonic S1 and it holds up well to my Cinema 6k. Granted I use a Black Magic Video Assist and it turns the S1 into a full 6k power house. With both having Super 35 and open gate for true anamorphic modes, the Sony cameras have 4k 120 which I don’t think I need. Sony is too expensive for the same image quality.
I still prefer Sony’s look.
@@KaceyBakerFilmswhy? I think Panasonic colors are much better.