To be fair, when Billy Gibbins asked Prince how he played it, Prince said he fell across it accidentally and hadn't been able to play it again since, so you've done a fantastic job here. Certainly better than the transciber in the Purple Rain Off The Record band score book ;-)
@@FreeBrunoPowroznik Tell me about it. And with the rise of programs like garageband I really would have gone through that book to recreate the songs. gutted
I always thought Prince was being polite to Billy. He knew exactly what he played! He just didn't want to embarrass a guy who made his living on that instrument.
Prince was underrated as a guitarist…he still has sick leads he recorded years ago that he haven’t even heard and maybe never will..he has many recordings locked up in his vault. Prince could and did shred..he was also an accomplished pianist and Bass player. I wish I could hear some of his vault stuff that we never heard..I bet it’s amazing
It's really interesting that you say @3:32 "that is so Van Halen" given that Prince and Van Halen both recorded at Sunset Sound Studios and that in 1983 Van Halen was transitioning to his 5150 home studio. Prince recorded When Doves Cry in March 1984. Prince had recorded there at Sunset Sound since 1981 and I wonder if they ever crossed paths there or if Prince listened in on a VH session.
Yeah, I wondered the same thing. But even if they never did, Prince was the sort of guy who would have totally listened to other guitarists and learned from them.
I will tell you a story that a Music reporter from the Globe and Mail told me 30 years ago. He was a neighbour of my close friend. He said that Prince took lessons from Eddie Van Halen. I mentioned it on a forum and the losers, Prince Fan boys at the gear page kicked me off the Forum because I didn't say he was the best guitar player in the universe. It sounds like Eddie Van Halen and is in Eddie's style.
@@GerhardGeficky-jg4ok😂 What a load of bs 😂😂😂😂 A friend of a friend told me…😂😂😂😂 Prince was playing Carlos Santana and Hendrix solos when he was 13 without missing a note. He was already a local star and all documented
Can you help the people in the cheap seats with Eddie VH’s Beat It solo. I understood you perfectly in this and it’s so refreshing. Thank you for this video. 🙏
Prince explained to ZZ Top guitarist Billy Gibbons after a chance meeting at a bar.... Prince could not remember how he came up with it, but invited Gibbins to leave and go figure it out together....Not sure if they did, but Billy said it was a great chat!
I’m a huge prince fan, so I hate busting mythology, but at least on the doves cry keyboard solo Matt fink says prince told him “ the good news is I slowed the tape down to play this in the studio, the bad news is you don’t get to slow it down on stage”😂😂😂 so he probably did the same to record the lightning fast guitar intro
Wow!!! Where did you hear/read that? I'd love to get the whole story. This is very encouraging news for a player like myself hahaha! Especially as I wrote out that brilliant keyboard solo about two years ago but couldn't get it up to speed!
@@dannyeddyguitar I’ve consumed soooo much prince related info that tracking that quote down would be impossible. Once he passed the floodgates really opened and people have shared their stories of their time with greatness
Prince supposedly told Gibbons from ZZ top that he "fell into the intro by accident": and was not able to play it exactly like it ever since....Gibbons had asked Prince to show him how to play it. If Gibbons had to ask, no one whould criticize you here. ..🙂
Many thanks for this!!! the start of that lick (just before the very fast part), i think this is played on the first frets of the guitar, that is how i have seen a video of wendy playing it...
Thanks Jurgen. Yes, I watched that clip (and many others) whilst trying to work it out. And I LOVE Wendy, but to me, it just sounds closer to the original when played up at the 12th fret. Prince used an octave pedal on this performance (as did I) so both those ranges of notes are present.
Thank you Henk. Yeah, that part is reallllly difficult to achieve. It just sounds like an open A string, played quite staccato, but it's slightly sharp. I heard that Prince played this intro with the tape slowed down. So perhaps it's the E string, sped up...
Just found your channel and subscribed. Really enjoying a few of the Prince ones I have watched so far. I am sure you have already covered this but, can you tell me what pedals/amp/etc you are using in this video for the tone? You have it nailed here.
Awesome, welcome aboard! Almost all my vids are recorded DI into Logic Pro (previously into Garageband) and then tweaking the amp and FX modellers in post. On this one, I just used the preset named "Woolly Octave" then played with the gain and EQ a little bit until it sounded close.
Thanks heaps Dan! Yeah I was happy with the tone too. I created it within Logic, based upon the 'Woolly Octave" preset. It has some slow compression, Dr. Octave with Octave 1 all the way up, no Octave 2. Grit Distortion at about 2 o'clock. 1/4 Note delay. But I reckon that Hohner Tele with Kinman pick ups has a lot to do with it.
Danny Danny Danny….I stumbled upon your channel only just now….I am a dedicated Prince AND FZ fan…and a guitarist myself! Instant subscribe…. superb video…Request : Please break up Ry Cooder All Shook Up from Cocktail soundtrack….same superb fuzz very hi gain….
Thanks heaps for your support - and for the brilliant suggestion! I absolutely love Ry's version of All Shook Up, particularly those brilliant, Zappaesque BVs!
Agreed. Prince used equipment tricks to speed up or create effects. The drum intro to 777-9311 is all drum programming. Prince was so methodical that when programming some drum parts he would insert pauses/fluctuations to mimic what a real person playing drums would do.
You are brilliant in these videos. Also your sincere personality comes across as well. I have a challenge/request. There is a video of Prince (he's wearing a white/black jacket) playing his song Don't Play Me - DUDE I have been trying to learn that quick scale run down he does. Please help. THX
Not Em or Am. A Dorian over the whole thing! Except for that G diminished lick (tritone substitution). The V chord is where all the cool sh*t happens per usual.
Try playing dorian where you normally play minor patterns (including blues) and you'll sound so much cooler ;). Check out Pat Martino "Sunny" for a masterclass.
@@dannyeddyguitar Yes, except that opening riff tells you right off the rip, he's accenting the F#. And when the chords finally come in with less than a minute left in the song, he lets you know that Am is home.
Hi Danny, Just been watching your Prince clips. Loved the Lets go Crazy track breakdown. Are you able to do anything similar with other Prince tracks? Also, I've read in various articles over the years that Prince couldn't read/write music, do think that is true or could someone so innovative create so intuitively? Cheers.
Hi Siqe7. I would absolutely love to do more of this, however Prince stems are virtually impossible to come by. This is the only song in his catalogue where the stems have been leaked, as far as I know.
comes near....i think Prince never played it live because its very special and complicated...but a very close try...i think its not Van Halen...its more an HM5 Scale or something oriental
Yo Danny, Again you nailed it! Prince was as fast as anybody with a pick can be but always tried to keep it equally as simple. To really get this lick one needs as close to his distortion as well. Another GREAT example of this are the two breaks he does on 'Joy Of Repetition' from One Night Alone, (please give it a listen if you haven't already). There are two versions of that floating around, the first one is the raw version that he played that night, (with video) which he clearly is using just a few notes played incredibly FAST. Even though he may have 'cleaned' it up for the album, it still sounds as though there are only two to three notes played fast enough that the cycling of Effects do the rest of the work. Still this is key to how Prince crafted his solo's. Thanks so much for the efforts in your break downs, they're phenomenal! ~Mark~
It really is - but don't forget, he probably recorded in a different key and then sped up the tape. Which would explain why he never performed this intro live.
Perhaps... But he was also a lover of jamming. I wouldn't be surprised if he played and played and played, and then listened back and pulled out this gem of an intro... But I wasn't there. This is just my imagination.
To be fair, when Billy Gibbins asked Prince how he played it, Prince said he fell across it accidentally and hadn't been able to play it again since, so you've done a fantastic job here. Certainly better than the transciber in the Purple Rain Off The Record band score book ;-)
I hadn't heard that Billy Gibbons quote. Thanks! I have had a few on here tell me Prince slowed the tape, which makes me feel better hahaha.
I had Purple Rain off the record years ago. Lent it to a friend and he F..king lost it. Our friendship was never the same
@@scottclark3139 Hate to tell you, but it goes for about £90 on ebay now
@@FreeBrunoPowroznik Tell me about it. And with the rise of programs like garageband I really would have gone through that book to recreate the songs. gutted
I always thought Prince was being polite to Billy. He knew exactly what he played! He just didn't want to embarrass a guy who made his living on that instrument.
Prince was underrated as a guitarist…he still has sick leads he recorded years ago that he haven’t even heard and maybe never will..he has many recordings locked up in his vault. Prince could and did shred..he was also an accomplished pianist and Bass player. I wish I could hear some of his vault stuff that we never heard..I bet it’s amazing
Right?! Wouldn't it be amazing to be set loose in the 'vault'? Thanks for checking it out.
I wouldn't say he's an underrated guitarrist, I would say he's an awesome guitarrist! It's undeniable that he's good at what he does.
You know I always felt Prince was ripping through a scale and hit that lick and said wait a minute and that's how that intro was born!!
Oh yeah! I have no doubt he was shredding away for ages, enjoying some wicked noodling then went 'Wow. That's a song intro.'
It's really interesting that you say @3:32 "that is so Van Halen" given that Prince and Van Halen both recorded at Sunset Sound Studios and that in 1983 Van Halen was transitioning to his 5150 home studio. Prince recorded When Doves Cry in March 1984.
Prince had recorded there at Sunset Sound since 1981 and I wonder if they ever crossed paths there or if Prince listened in on a VH session.
Yeah, I wondered the same thing. But even if they never did, Prince was the sort of guy who would have totally listened to other guitarists and learned from them.
I will tell you a story that a Music reporter from the Globe and Mail told me 30 years ago. He was a neighbour of my close friend. He said that Prince took lessons from Eddie Van Halen. I mentioned it on a forum and the losers, Prince Fan boys at the gear page kicked me off the Forum because I didn't say he was the best guitar player in the universe. It sounds like Eddie Van Halen and is in Eddie's style.
@@GerhardGeficky-jg4ok😂
What a load of bs 😂😂😂😂
A friend of a friend told me…😂😂😂😂
Prince was playing Carlos Santana and Hendrix solos when he was 13 without missing a note. He was already a local star and all documented
@@GeoTactics because he took lesson from Eddie Van Halen that's the secret in the biz.
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Thats the right way of playing it. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for checking it out, Peter.
@@dannyeddyguitar I decided to subscribe to your channel. Good work sir.
Head fried! What a guy he was... such a powerful entrance... you be like, you have my attention! Great break down it'll do me!
Glad you enjoyed it, Stuart!
You did a great job with this Danny
Really appreciate your support Jules. Thanks mate!
Awesome job! Love your in depth analysis and how excellent your teaching and playing skills are! Thank you so much for sharing this!
Thanks! Hey, I checked out your channel - no clips with a JEM_777!!! Hahaha upload some Via licks!
Excellent, reminds me more of mid 1970's Uli Jon Roth, in style and execution.
Loving your work mate, cheers
Wow! Yes, Uli Jon Roth is a monster!
yay more prince
More Prince, Prince and more..............Prince. Please :-)
I'm working on it Tony!
An MXR Blue Box with the C11 Mod makes all of this even better.
Prince didn't use that though, did he? They seem pretty cool!
Wow Awesome thank you
Cheers!
Love the octave effect tracts well
Thanks for listening, Miguel.
Can you help the people in the cheap seats with Eddie VH’s Beat It solo. I understood you perfectly in this and it’s so refreshing. Thank you for this video. 🙏
Thanks! Yep, I'll definitely get that solo on the To Do list.
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Prince explained to ZZ Top guitarist Billy Gibbons after a chance meeting at a bar.... Prince could not remember how he came up with it, but invited Gibbins to leave and go figure it out together....Not sure if they did, but Billy said it was a great chat!
Imagine being a fly on the wall...
I can't imagine why you'd say no
I’m a huge prince fan, so I hate busting mythology, but at least on the doves cry keyboard solo Matt fink says prince told him “ the good news is I slowed the tape down to play this in the studio, the bad news is you don’t get to slow it down on stage”😂😂😂 so he probably did the same to record the lightning fast guitar intro
Wow!!! Where did you hear/read that? I'd love to get the whole story.
This is very encouraging news for a player like myself hahaha! Especially as I wrote out that brilliant keyboard solo about two years ago but couldn't get it up to speed!
@@dannyeddyguitar I’ve consumed soooo much prince related info that tracking that quote down would be impossible. Once he passed the floodgates really opened and people have shared their stories of their time with greatness
If I Just knew hoy templar guitar!!!
Stick with me Angel!
THANK YOU FOR THIS!
Totally welcome!
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Thanks, Dewanda!
Just discovered your channel. The background was all I needed to hit the Subscribe button.
Thanks! Appreciate your support.
Best version
Thanks!
Love it!
Thanks so much, Chris!
Prince supposedly told Gibbons from ZZ top that he "fell into the intro by accident": and was not able to play it exactly like it ever since....Gibbons had asked Prince to show him how to play it. If Gibbons had to ask, no one whould criticize you here. ..🙂
Thanks, Laurence. Great comment - I hadn't heard that story about BG and Prince!
Thanks
Thank you, Darwin. Hope you're nailing it!
What about the octaver and what other effects was Prince using? That's why it doesn't sound like it also , the effects.
Yes! Pedals were a huge part of his sound.
@@dannyeddyguitar the Octaver and Wah especially and you are also using one in your demo. Btw you played very well. Better than Skolnick
Many thanks for this!!! the start of that lick (just before the very fast part), i think this is played on the first frets of the guitar, that is how i have seen a video of wendy playing it...
Thanks Jurgen. Yes, I watched that clip (and many others) whilst trying to work it out. And I LOVE Wendy, but to me, it just sounds closer to the original when played up at the 12th fret. Prince used an octave pedal on this performance (as did I) so both those ranges of notes are present.
@@dannyeddyguitar yes, i was also quite surprised when i saw her playing that at the first frets, thanks again for the Prince lessons!!!
thanks Danny, I just miss the sound he plays while singing the 'yeah, yeah, yeah part'
Thank you Henk. Yeah, that part is reallllly difficult to achieve. It just sounds like an open A string, played quite staccato, but it's slightly sharp. I heard that Prince played this intro with the tape slowed down. So perhaps it's the E string, sped up...
@@dannyeddyguitar thank you Edyy! Also had troubles finding that sound (but love it so much!). I will try again with your thoughts. Have a nice Xmas!
how are you getting the sound? Fuzz distortion and octave pedal
Yep. It's based on a preset in Logic - Wooly Octave
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Just found your channel and subscribed. Really enjoying a few of the Prince ones I have watched so far. I am sure you have already covered this but, can you tell me what pedals/amp/etc you are using in this video for the tone? You have it nailed here.
Awesome, welcome aboard! Almost all my vids are recorded DI into Logic Pro (previously into Garageband) and then tweaking the amp and FX modellers in post.
On this one, I just used the preset named "Woolly Octave" then played with the gain and EQ a little bit until it sounded close.
Nice vid Danny! Your guitar tone is so damn close, can I ask what your signal set up is?
Thanks heaps Dan! Yeah I was happy with the tone too. I created it within Logic, based upon the 'Woolly Octave" preset.
It has some slow compression, Dr. Octave with Octave 1 all the way up, no Octave 2. Grit Distortion at about 2 o'clock. 1/4 Note delay.
But I reckon that Hohner Tele with Kinman pick ups has a lot to do with it.
Can you do a lesson on Missouri-Moivn on and Got that fever
both have great guitar licks
Think you for your time
Alan
Thanks Alan. I've never heard of Missouri. I'll check it out.
Danny Danny Danny….I stumbled upon your channel only just now….I am a dedicated Prince AND FZ fan…and a guitarist myself! Instant subscribe…. superb video…Request : Please break up Ry Cooder All Shook Up from Cocktail soundtrack….same superb fuzz very hi gain….
Thanks heaps for your support - and for the brilliant suggestion! I absolutely love Ry's version of All Shook Up, particularly those brilliant, Zappaesque BVs!
Prince was known for speeding technics in the studio. It's not the speed he actually he played it I wonder
I wonder too. But that also makes me wonder which strings he played it on... Or did he tune down?
Agreed. Prince used equipment tricks to speed up or create effects. The drum intro to 777-9311 is all drum programming. Prince was so methodical that when programming some drum parts he would insert pauses/fluctuations to mimic what a real person playing drums would do.
You are brilliant in these videos. Also your sincere personality comes across as well.
I have a challenge/request. There is a video of Prince (he's wearing a white/black jacket) playing his song Don't Play Me - DUDE I have been trying to learn that quick scale run down he does.
Please help. THX
Not Em or Am. A Dorian over the whole thing! Except for that G diminished lick (tritone substitution). The V chord is where all the cool sh*t happens per usual.
Try playing dorian where you normally play minor patterns (including blues) and you'll sound so much cooler ;). Check out Pat Martino "Sunny" for a masterclass.
Thanks MojoPapi. By the way, E minor = A Dorian. Exact same notes.
@@dannyeddyguitar Yes, except that opening riff tells you right off the rip, he's accenting the F#. And when the chords finally come in with less than a minute left in the song, he lets you know that Am is home.
Never mind the notes...your tone is so close to the original..
Thanks mate! Still in Spain? Melbourne out of lockdown last night!!
@@dannyeddyguitar That's great news.. & yep, I'm still in Spain... 3 nights in a row with the band..last one tomorrow.. at least until next week !!
Hi Danny, Just been watching your Prince clips. Loved the Lets go Crazy track breakdown. Are you able to do anything similar with other Prince tracks? Also, I've read in various articles over the years that Prince couldn't read/write music, do think that is true or could someone so innovative create so intuitively? Cheers.
Hi Siqe7. I would absolutely love to do more of this, however Prince stems are virtually impossible to come by. This is the only song in his catalogue where the stems have been leaked, as far as I know.
What’s your octave settings
Hi Robbey, I used the Dr. Octave pedal in Logic. Octave 1 - Max. Octave 2 - 0. Direct - 2:30. Drive - 0.
@@dannyeddyguitar sweet I’m assuming my oct setting would be the same thanks for answering and sweet playing and tone brotha
comes near....i think Prince never played it live because its very special and complicated...but a very close try...i think its not Van Halen...its more an HM5 Scale or something oriental
Great comment! Thanks, WS.
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Thanks for liking the noise!
Yo Danny, Again you nailed it! Prince was as fast as anybody with a pick can be but always tried to keep it equally as simple. To really get this lick one needs as close to his distortion as well. Another GREAT example of this are the two breaks he does on 'Joy Of Repetition' from One Night Alone, (please give it a listen if you haven't already). There are two versions of that floating around, the first one is the raw version that he played that night, (with video) which he clearly is using just a few notes played incredibly FAST. Even though he may have 'cleaned' it up for the album, it still sounds as though there are only two to three notes played fast enough that the cycling of Effects do the rest of the work. Still this is key to how Prince crafted his solo's. Thanks so much for the efforts in your break downs, they're phenomenal! ~Mark~
Thanks heaps, Mark! Yeah, I have Joy of Repetition on my To Do List. It's comin... Really appreciate your support mate.,
It's not "distortion". It's a simple Octaver.
I've got this on 45, keep meaning to try it at 33rpm. I guess you got pc programs to do it now lol.
You can actually do it on here now - UA-cam has the ability to adjust playback speed. It's located under the Settings cog/wheel.
Great job. Slow it down a bit.
Thanks Loren.
R those honhers good??
This one is!!
Sorry, you have the "easy" part incorrect as well the following part.
This comment is only useful if you reveal the right way to do it...
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Oh my goodness, this is kinda hard! 😢
It really is - but don't forget, he probably recorded in a different key and then sped up the tape. Which would explain why he never performed this intro live.
ua-cam.com/video/7wGcuL2sgW0/v-deo.html the intro part
Alex Skolnick is God.
MONSTERRRRRRRR!
Prince was a perfectionist so he played that until he got it right
Perhaps... But he was also a lover of jamming. I wouldn't be surprised if he played and played and played, and then listened back and pulled out this gem of an intro... But I wasn't there. This is just my imagination.
Why would a musical genius get something from Eddie Van Halen?
Not sure if... sarcasm... or...
that aint it
Help me out?