Prince "When Doves Cry" Stories From The Session

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  • Опубліковано 26 лют 2021
  • Prince spent 3 days on the brilliant "When Doves Cry".
    Ready to hear some behind-the-scenes secrets about the iconic song "When Doves Cry" by Prince? In this exclusive clip from The Sunset Sound Roundtable, groundbreaking engineer Peggy "Mac" McCreary, who worked on Purple Rain and other classic albums, shares fascinating insight into the recording session of this legendary track at Sunset Sound in Hollywood, CA. You don't want to miss this rare glimpse into the making of one of the most beloved songs of all time.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 383

  • @thepromiseman7745
    @thepromiseman7745 Рік тому +34

    Prince is a beast on Guitar. No doubt even Jimi Hendrix would agree

  • @ReginatorNet
    @ReginatorNet 3 роки тому +157

    Having talent doesn't require playing a million notes a minute - It requires knowing which notes to play during that minute. Prince had talent.

    • @MontoyaMatrix
      @MontoyaMatrix 3 роки тому +7

      There is a quote from JS Bach back in 1720. He said, "ANYONE can play the organ. Just hit the notes at the right time."

    • @ChromeLuxx
      @ChromeLuxx 3 роки тому +4

      He is talent.

    • @ReginatorNet
      @ReginatorNet 3 роки тому +1

      @@MontoyaMatrix wow, that's awesome!

    • @thestrangemanreturns
      @thestrangemanreturns 3 роки тому +2

      duh

    • @cavaleermountaineer3839
      @cavaleermountaineer3839 Рік тому +5

      He had way more than talent. Genius is the word, often overused but in his case perhaps not descriptive enough.

  • @youngkeys
    @youngkeys 3 роки тому +62

    Being a producer, a track can get over produced and overwhelmed..for her to say he unproduced it he basically took everything out and left it naked which turned out better than anyone could ever think

    • @Skiptondesigns
      @Skiptondesigns 3 роки тому +9

      Yeah, but if that's the atmosphere an artist wants on their track, then there shouldn't be any problem if it's overproduced.
      And what might sound overproduced to you, might not be to someone else.

    • @keithbell9348
      @keithbell9348 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep. Peeled bavk the layers and VIOLA'!!!

  • @InfectiousGroovePodcast
    @InfectiousGroovePodcast Рік тому +29

    The last solo on When Doves Cry is insanely underrated. What an incredible section of guitar playing.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 Рік тому +4

      Wendy came close playing it live but not like him

    • @mrmiggedy123
      @mrmiggedy123 Рік тому +5

      The intro was just as fire, too.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 Рік тому

      @@mrmiggedy123 I heard a rumor that the intro is actually Jesse from another song. Only heard that once so I still think it's P

    • @mrmiggedy123
      @mrmiggedy123 Рік тому +1

      @@avace917 that may explain why Prince has said he had been trying to duplicate that solo since. You might be onto something.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 Рік тому +2

      @@mrmiggedy123 the odd thing is I've seen him live 4 times and only the first time which was the Purple Rain Tour was that intro attempted. Wendy actually played it

  • @Aikidoman06
    @Aikidoman06 Рік тому +14

    Prince was a rare guitarist. He had unbelievable talent and a feel for the instrument.

  • @Fordie47
    @Fordie47 3 роки тому +80

    Prince was far more than a superb guitarist. He was a genius of a musical chameleon, both instrumentally and vocally. His voice, even in falsetto mode, embodied all the basic instruments of rock and soul. Instrumentally, he could play any musical instrument with precision and perfection. He was an astounding artist! "When Doves Cry" proved this, phenomenally! RIP Our Prince of Rock and Soul! There will never be another like you! Tears! Regrets! Say Hi to God for me please.

    • @pastorofmuppets22
      @pastorofmuppets22 3 роки тому +2

      He was sooo great he had a girl playing for him for 15 years 🤣

    • @starrcompany3275
      @starrcompany3275 2 роки тому

      Couldn't of said it better myself 👍🏿
      I was just thinking the same thing Michael and Prince were not humans they were musical angels 4 sure! The world will never have anything to compare!

    • @kevineden4028
      @kevineden4028 Рік тому +1

      @@starrcompany3275 Who said anything about whoever this Michael person is?

    • @tomgebarowski8156
      @tomgebarowski8156 Рік тому +1

      Prince was a musical genius, ahead of his time!

    • @dominiquejones3805
      @dominiquejones3805 Рік тому

      His protected his voice. Man could perform any song live he recorded

  • @V12_smoke
    @V12_smoke 3 роки тому +55

    The Purple Rain album has to be one of the greatest albums of all time.

    • @frederickwilliams6200
      @frederickwilliams6200 3 роки тому +1

      Purple Rain wasn't a album but a soundtrack(music score) to the movie

    • @V12_smoke
      @V12_smoke 3 роки тому +4

      @@frederickwilliams6200 "Film soundtracks are usually an afterthought--mere companion pieces designed to exploit the revenue potential of a movie." To call it a soundtrack, is like calling Aretha just another singer. It so much more.

    • @frederickwilliams6200
      @frederickwilliams6200 3 роки тому +2

      @@V12_smoke You ever known an music album to become a movie? 😏

    • @V12_smoke
      @V12_smoke 3 роки тому +2

      @@frederickwilliams6200 Moonwalker was based on MJ's Bad album. There are a number of movies based on Beatles and other rock albums.

    • @frederickwilliams6200
      @frederickwilliams6200 3 роки тому

      @@V12_smoke 😆

  • @DriveSMR
    @DriveSMR 2 роки тому +7

    A true multi-instrumentalist

  • @LG-kx8xl
    @LG-kx8xl 3 роки тому +69

    I'm so tired of them going for hype & trying to feed Peggy ideas hoping she'll start a Van Halen Controversey about Prince. I have the utmost respect for her being totally honest & not falling for it!💜

    • @messiahblack2295
      @messiahblack2295 2 роки тому +6

      I was thinking the exact same thing...I doubt Prince would ever come up in a Van Halen conversation...

    • @devinphillips9704
      @devinphillips9704 2 роки тому +6

      I think it's because Dweezil was friends with EVH and idolized him a bit, especially when he was younger, from what I understand. But what strikes me as odd about that is if Dweezil was going to compare Prince to anybody, it would be his own FATHER, not Eddie Van Halen.

    • @peterroberts7684
      @peterroberts7684 Рік тому +1

      Yup

    • @StratsRUs
      @StratsRUs Рік тому

      Yeah, F'#ck Them !

    • @tarifalston8732
      @tarifalston8732 Рік тому +1

      Right

  • @lobsterblacc9478
    @lobsterblacc9478 2 роки тому +9

    Computer Blue solo is extremely rock and roll. The most rock and roll solo from prince

    • @dominiquejones3805
      @dominiquejones3805 Рік тому

      Computer Blue is insane

    • @dominiquejones3805
      @dominiquejones3805 Рік тому +1

      Why U Wanna Treat Me So Bad was another 1 Prince went off on

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 4 місяці тому +1

      Bambi, I'm Yours, Endorphine Machine. There are loads of them.

  • @lancel71
    @lancel71 3 роки тому +30

    "He was fine on his own" That was a big understatement! Awesome video!

  • @hayleycomet8029
    @hayleycomet8029 3 роки тому +21

    To this day When Doves Cry is still one of my favorite songs - it's absolutely perfect

  • @atomicpete
    @atomicpete 3 роки тому +44

    Always loved Prince's guitar playing.

    • @dennisperin2989
      @dennisperin2989 3 роки тому +2

      Love the no bozo’s logo. Must be an old schooler? VanHalen fan or Megadave? Just a guess? Me, Both!

    • @xjsa8670
      @xjsa8670 3 роки тому

      That guitar solo changed my life wow how many times I've air guitar played it

  • @violetgolden3380
    @violetgolden3380 3 роки тому +25

    The way the songs sounded in his head was what we got, so yes he was a genius.

    • @truthbetold6011
      @truthbetold6011 3 роки тому +2

      Yes

    • @thestrangemanreturns
      @thestrangemanreturns 3 роки тому +1

      that's with all musicians with visions. Not exclusive to Prince.

    • @jamesball5743
      @jamesball5743 3 роки тому

      The dumbest most moronic criteria ever

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 5 місяців тому

      @@thestrangemanreturns Only if they can play it how they imagine it. they also need a great imagination. most people don't have both and many don't have either.

  • @carlob517
    @carlob517 3 роки тому +24

    Saw Prince live in Sydney some yrs ago and his entrance to the stage was wickedly unbelievable he played the arse off his White guitar this man just exudes Sensuality in his manner , he showed All at the Hall of Fame what he is capable of without even raising a sweat didnt he just . Prince was indeed a musical and performing genius truly underrated for his skill set

  • @bmb619
    @bmb619 3 роки тому +11

    Ask other well known guitar icons....Prince is RESPECTED.

  • @OrdinaryG33K-SF
    @OrdinaryG33K-SF 2 роки тому +11

    I wanna know about that opening guitar riff, and (perhaps even more importantly) what has now come to be known as the “Guttural Vocal” immediately AFTER the opening guitar riff! Like, who would think of such a thing? What was the thought process that led him to it? That’s an amazing song TO THIS DAY!

  • @blueser100
    @blueser100 Рік тому +9

    I have read elsewhere that When Doves Cry was the last song written for the album, and he had set out to write a hit because his management/director said they needed one more song, one that would speak to the emotional/relational thread 🧵 running through the film. It went to #1. I really wish you would bring Peggy back and put up the master tape so we can hear all the tracks that Prince created before he unproduced it.

  • @warrengauthier4699
    @warrengauthier4699 3 роки тому +43

    Prince truly was a one of a kind genius artist:
    Singer
    Song writer
    Guitarist
    Keyboards
    Dancing
    Acting
    Very few people could do all of that.

    • @vanthdreadstar8788
      @vanthdreadstar8788 3 роки тому +7

      I love Prince but I think you’re pushing it with the acting thing.

    • @thedadyouneverhadchannel3544
      @thedadyouneverhadchannel3544 3 роки тому +1

      Drummer!

    • @warrengauthier4699
      @warrengauthier4699 3 роки тому +5

      @@vanthdreadstar8788 : I never said "good actor" but who else can do all of that?

    • @majorkade
      @majorkade 3 роки тому

      John Stamos

    • @warrengauthier4699
      @warrengauthier4699 3 роки тому +1

      @@majorkade : Yeah but Stamos produced garbage music. Jennifer Love Hewitt put out a record too. Lmao

  • @novacorps2468
    @novacorps2468 3 роки тому +31

    When Doves Cry wasn't the only song at the time he made the guitar wail. Don't forget Let's Go Crazy that had an even more heavy metal waiting guitar sound and solo.

    • @theolynncarpenter4613
      @theolynncarpenter4613 3 роки тому +3

      HES SAYING THAT BECAUSE WHEN DOVES CRY CAME OUT 2/3 MONTHS BEFORE THE MOVIE AND ALBUM. NO ONE HAD HEARD LET'S GO CRAZY YET. I MEAN THAT WHOLE ALBUM HAD HEAVY GUITAR WORK COMPUTER BLUE DARLING NIKKI, THE END OF THE BEAUTIFUL ONES, PURPLE RAIN ITSELF. BUT HE'S WRONG IN THE ASPECT OF ALL HIS WORK PRIOR, DID HAVE LOTS OF GUITAR WORK LIKE THAT TOO. HE OBVIOUSLY JUST DIDN'T LISTEN TO IT BECAUSE PRINCE WASN'T MAINSTREAM. HE WAS URBAN , NEW WAVE, UNDERGROUND IN THE 70s EARLY 80s! NO PLACE NEAR POP TIL LITTLE RED CORVETTE. AND THAT HAD LOTS OF GUITAR IRONICALLY TOO. PLUS HE HAD OTHER GROUPS HE WAS PLAYING ALL THE MUSIC FOR (THE TIME, VANITY 6 ETC) AND THEY HAD LOTS OF GUITAR SOLOS ETC TOO!

    • @vistalite-ph4zw
      @vistalite-ph4zw 3 роки тому +3

      She also failed to mention unless she didn't know, but Prince went through phases. During the Purple Rain era Prince was channeling a Jimi Hendrix vibe. Notice his wardrobe at the time the ruffled shirts just like Hendrix wore. The guy said EVH, maybe but definitely more Hendrix style of playing, and yes for some reason Prince is always overlooked for his guitar playing...

    • @applehead4730
      @applehead4730 2 роки тому +1

      There’s more amazing songs that he made the guitar sing other than doves cry. Listen to something in the water

  • @musicmanson
    @musicmanson 3 роки тому +10

    Prince was one of the top echelon guitarists. A virtuoso, through and through.

    • @Supercreep1000
      @Supercreep1000 8 місяців тому +1

      No. He was very good. Let’s not get carried away.

  • @TheMeJustMe75
    @TheMeJustMe75 3 роки тому +11

    Saw Prince once and his guitar playing blew my mind. I had heard Peach and She's Always in My Hair but to hear him live was awesome. His extended guitar solo for Purple Rain matched Eddie or any other Rock Guitarist.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 2 роки тому +2

      Have you seen him blow everyone from the stage doing "While My Guitar Gently Weeps"?

  • @ROCKNROLLFAN
    @ROCKNROLLFAN 3 роки тому +4

    The GREATEST recording artist & musician of this entire lifetime.......

  • @heartpath1
    @heartpath1 7 місяців тому +1

    It’s fascinating to me that Prince is underrated as a guitarist. His rhythm chops are among the best to ever do it and his lead playing is right there as well. His overall musicianship is on full display with every note.

  • @peterroberts7684
    @peterroberts7684 2 роки тому +4

    Witness to a pivotal moment in musical history,I mean that wailing psychedelic guitar intro,and that beat on When Doves Cry...

  • @gordonlinton3555
    @gordonlinton3555 2 роки тому +6

    It was the guitar that made me pay attention to Prince, way back. Prince flowed beautifully live on the guitar tracks, as good as the Jeff Becks and SRV's.

  • @albondigas8270
    @albondigas8270 3 роки тому +5

    I’ve driven by this building a million times and I always think of Prince laying it down behind those walls!!!

  • @HazeyCazeyTv
    @HazeyCazeyTv 3 роки тому +10

    My favorite album of all time. I could hear this all day.

  • @IvanLendl87
    @IvanLendl87 3 роки тому +14

    Love Dweezil’s comments on how Prince’s guitar playing on ‘When Doves Cry” is unlike his guitar style on any of his other songs. As a longtime Prince fan I’ve felt the same way from the first time I heard the song in 1984. It’s by far my favorite guitar solo of his. Wish someone had the story on this.

    • @jlv3x
      @jlv3x 3 роки тому +2

      You could add "Bambi" and "Temptation" to that too. He didn't use a full out rock guitar style very often, but when he did you definitely felt it.

    • @IvanLendl87
      @IvanLendl87 3 роки тому +2

      @@jlv3x I think his solo on Doves is a whole ‘nother level from Bambi (or Temptation). Way more intricate.

    • @modifiedcontent
      @modifiedcontent 3 роки тому +2

      Have you heard Just My Imagination - Paard van Troje, Den Haag 1988? On studio records, Temptation is a great showcase of his guitar playing.

  • @aggoldstein
    @aggoldstein 3 роки тому +23

    No guitar player underestimates his guitar playing. He is in the top 10 ever easily.

    • @thestrangemanreturns
      @thestrangemanreturns 3 роки тому +1

      top 30 maybe

    • @creativesource3514
      @creativesource3514 3 роки тому

      But guitar is not a hard instrument. Now violin.....
      Oh my God!

    • @StratsRUs
      @StratsRUs 3 роки тому +3

      The 'guitar' magazines were very ridiculing of Prince.I remember that they took the piss at the time, mid 80's onwards.Racist, definitely.

    • @thestrangemanreturns
      @thestrangemanreturns 3 роки тому +2

      @@StratsRUs it's because he stays in the basic pentatonic usually. He composes great solos and melodies but if you watch how he solo's live he repeats a lot of the same things.

    • @aggoldstein
      @aggoldstein 3 роки тому +2

      @@thestrangemanreturns while moving like crazy too

  • @lancematthews195
    @lancematthews195 3 роки тому +6

    PRINCE 👑 WAS COMPLETELY ON ANOTHER LEVEL WITH TALENTED THAT WAS FROM ANOTHER PLANET 🌎 THE MUSIC INDUSTRY WAS NOT READY FOR THIS GUY WHO ALSO UNDERSTOOD THE GAME - 3/28/21 - LANCE ROMANCE 😊

    • @SomboonCM
      @SomboonCM 2 роки тому

      Dimension, not planet.

  • @mykhedelic6471
    @mykhedelic6471 3 роки тому +83

    I would love to hear the overstuffed Doves before he started pulling tracks out. Seems like it could be really interesting.

    • @tylergates4075
      @tylergates4075 3 роки тому +7

      I think he's performed that version during the lovesexy tour. Had the bass in it and more

    • @newhorizonsforfifty2833
      @newhorizonsforfifty2833 3 роки тому +5

      I think if you listen to the densest parts of Lovesexy you get an inkling of that overproduced feeling.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 3 роки тому +3

      I always wondered if that was the ACTUAL bassline. He did that walking bassline on both the SOTT and Lovesexy tours

    • @the220show8
      @the220show8 3 роки тому

      Yup

    • @mikejordan7239
      @mikejordan7239 3 роки тому

      Me too

  • @denisecappelletti3700
    @denisecappelletti3700 2 роки тому +5

    My favorite all time Prince song

  • @kcoolmuziq
    @kcoolmuziq 3 роки тому +9

    I remember hearing snippets of sum of the songs from the Purple Rain soundtrack months before it was released and wasn’t impressed. But the minute I heard WDC It blew me away. Of course after the movie hit it breathe new life into those songs and I was sold.

  • @janebeatty9472
    @janebeatty9472 3 роки тому +6

    I watched the video of Prince playing last in a tribute to George Harrison. He had never played better and some of his chords and techniques blew the minds of Tom Petty, Harrison’s Grandson and the other guitar players standing with him in the semi-circle. You know you are seeing, and hearing, a gift from God in those moments. He passed away shortly after that performance. RIP Prince

    • @ablesmith575
      @ablesmith575 3 роки тому +3

      Dhani Harrison is George Harrison's son, not grandson and the performance in question is from the 2004 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony. Prince passed away in 2016, so not "shortly after".

    • @abnzg
      @abnzg 3 роки тому +2

      the most mind-blowing thing in that performance is the disappearing guitar

    • @onesong2001
      @onesong2001 4 місяці тому

      @@abnzg The guitar disappeared only because it went out of camera view. Prince often tossed his guitar into the air for his techie to catch.
      The original video was a few seconds longer. Prince tossed his guitar and walk off the stage, probably to his waiting car, and Dhani Harrison could be heard to say "Where's Prince? I wanna give him a big hug", so it was the case of the disappearing Prince.
      Those few seconds were cut and Dhani said in interviews that he was not impressed by Prince's immature behaviour that night.
      I think we all know he was lying.

  • @ronrobins3513
    @ronrobins3513 3 роки тому +6

    3:33 seems here Zappa is trying to insinuate that Prince copied EVHs sound. If you are familiar with Prince, he had a rock guitar sound in his music from the first album.

  • @OnlyElshafto
    @OnlyElshafto 3 роки тому +44

    i been a lifelong frank zappa fan....but dweezil you were way off the mark....prince was a fucking legend of a guitar player, show sum respect ..prince was natural ..rip prince and rip frank...man imagine if those 2 cats had got it together and just put out sum shit...wow that woulda been somethin else.

    • @warrengauthier4699
      @warrengauthier4699 3 роки тому +8

      Ya...Zappa would have effed it up.

    • @aprilwest1883
      @aprilwest1883 3 роки тому +7

      Zappas lyrics alone , would turn Prince off.

    • @jonathanhanser5914
      @jonathanhanser5914 3 роки тому +6

      Prince was a MUCH MUCH better Gtr player than Zappa

    • @TavisAllen
      @TavisAllen 3 роки тому +2

      Watch/listen again. Although Dweezil's choice of words was a bit confusing, he didn't say anything disparaging about Prince.

    • @thestrangemanreturns
      @thestrangemanreturns 3 роки тому +4

      @@jonathanhanser5914many would disagree but opinions are like...you know the rest

  • @yngfu_
    @yngfu_ 3 роки тому +2

    first song I ever heard by him. Love him

  • @theunknown4570
    @theunknown4570 2 роки тому +1

    How can you just leave me stranded. Alone in a word thats so bold.

  • @ronwess
    @ronwess 3 роки тому +15

    Listening to Prince through the years I never underestimated him as a guitar player. I loved him in madhouse but I really wanted him to do a Prince instrumental record would've been Awesomeness ("

    • @keithbell9117
      @keithbell9117 3 роки тому

      He did do that, I don't remember the name of it. But its good

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam 3 роки тому +1

      @@keithbell9117 The Black Album?

    • @callmemonkh9020
      @callmemonkh9020 3 роки тому

      Prince LOVED to stretch out in instrumental jams, but I think someone in the 'pop' world may hav said something to Him along the lines of.. "instrumentals are boring." It haunted Him, I think.

    • @FeatherDory
      @FeatherDory 2 роки тому

      he has SO many records that are instrumental only records: C-Note, N.E.W.S., Xpectation, Kamasutra. ua-cam.com/video/84iw2fiAc_E/v-deo.html

    • @raggedyhaggity250
      @raggedyhaggity250 Рік тому

      that would be the n.e.w.s album and loring park sessions. could be more i dont know.
      that album is all instrumentals

  • @ToreHansen
    @ToreHansen 3 роки тому +3

    Best non-bass song I ever heard.

  • @TroyNaumu808
    @TroyNaumu808 2 роки тому +6

    PRINCE is a genius pure and simple. He had talent enough for twenty people. I am glad that Peggy didnt let them get her off track with that Van Halen bull shit, PRINCE would have been proud of her and that she represented him well.

  • @michellesassouni2863
    @michellesassouni2863 11 місяців тому +3

    I feel like the reason I never noticed that it doesn’t have a bass is that the drums combined with his deep voice that’s used in a rhythmic cadence, it almost feels like a bass at least to my untrained ear. Either way, it’s a damn musical masterpiece.

  • @deltabilly1
    @deltabilly1 Рік тому +1

    I remember hearing Doves for the first time on college radio. Full version. Blew my mind.

  • @TheBigwillistyle
    @TheBigwillistyle 2 роки тому +6

    Prince was an awesome guitarist. Some would disagree, but I think there was a lot of Hendrix in Prince's playing. He does a fill in "Purple Rain" the song in the third verse and I thought...THAAAAAAT'S HENDRIX.

    • @VerseVice
      @VerseVice 2 роки тому +4

      More Santana than Jimi

  • @k.chriscaldwell4141
    @k.chriscaldwell4141 Рік тому +1

    The solo in Purple Rain is, in my opinion, the most incredible ever. Melodic and beautiful infused with woeful screams from his guitar. Incredible! Listen to the E-Street Band version to appreciate it even more.

  • @paisleyprincess7996
    @paisleyprincess7996 3 роки тому +5

    Oh, Peggy.
    If you remember on the Prince 1999 super deluxe edition, on the International Lover/Studio Take, he says “I’m an international lover/baby you can be my bet/guaranteed to keep you wet (get that Peggy?). Yes, that Peggy.
    Man, I miss my little man Prince.

  • @marcelogaea1064
    @marcelogaea1064 2 роки тому +2

    Love him or not, Prince is Prince. Period. Dweezil knows 😎

  • @CitizenPain69
    @CitizenPain69 7 місяців тому

    We'd PAY GOOD money to hear THAT "missing" BASS track! Ok, prolly not...BUT...we'd STILL LOVE to at least HEAR It! #RestInParadise, #Prince...you, of ALL people, have mos' DEFINITELY EARNED it.

  • @Metamophisis
    @Metamophisis 2 роки тому +1

    God bless Prince! 🔥💣🔥💣🧨🎹🎸🥁🎧🎤🕊🙏🏽👀

  • @billydenkmusic
    @billydenkmusic 3 роки тому +19

    Dweezil, listen to 777-9311 by the Time for early Prince, pre-Doves, where he wails on guitar

    • @larrywalker3013
      @larrywalker3013 3 роки тому +2

      thats not prince, thats jesse johnson. prince did write that song 777-9311, but jesse actually played guitar on the recording.

    • @theolynncarpenter4613
      @theolynncarpenter4613 3 роки тому +2

      DUDE EXACTLY.,...HE HAD SONGS ON ALL HIS ALBUMS EXTENDED VERSIONS FROM THE 70s EARLY 80s. HE HAD 12 INCH DANCE VERSIONS, B SIDES. HE HAD SONGS WITH THE TIME AND VANITY 6 THAT HAD GUITAR THAT HE PLAYED ALL THE INSTRUMENTS ON. THAT WAS SO, AO FAR OFF BASE. ALSO HE FAILS TO REALIZE HENDRIX AND ERNIE ISLEY HAD THAT SOUND BEFORE VAN HALEN SMH... AS A GUITAR PLAYER HE SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!

    • @LG-kx8xl
      @LG-kx8xl 3 роки тому +2

      Listen to Get It Up 1981 by The Time. Prince wrote, produced, played on it incl. a guitar solo & did backing vocals and you can hear him so clearly....let me do your love!💜

  • @DrKevGuitar
    @DrKevGuitar 9 місяців тому

    This entire interview felt like Dweezil just looking for another chance to ask yet another VH question. Jeez Dweezil, knock it the hell off!

  • @ComicPower
    @ComicPower 3 роки тому +1

    The sparse lean Prince is the best. Love it.

  • @oldunclemick
    @oldunclemick 3 роки тому +1

    When Doves Cry is my favourite of all his songs. One of those unique "out there" songs like Walk On The Wild Side or Rock On.

  • @a.c.cordova9840
    @a.c.cordova9840 3 роки тому +3

    I always felt this song was basically acapella which made it all that more awesome....I'd would really love to here the fully orchestrated version. It should have been one of many other tracks on PR deluxe.
    I love hearing his old school stuff, alternative versions, live stuff but when the heck r we going to get something we never heard before!!! Dam, we have been waiting long enough already!!!

    • @rosannatrull8785
      @rosannatrull8785 Рік тому

      Yes I miss him he was best rest peace my prince for every

  • @mrmiggedy123
    @mrmiggedy123 Рік тому

    He figured out less is more. The spaces in between the drums and the notes were still filled with effects. Even his mouth noises filled in. The sound of the whole record combined with compression from FM radio made it SO HUGE sounding when I was a teen and a late-bloomer Prince fan. It took him 6 chess moves (6 albums) to catch up to Michael Jackson. Salute to Peggy.

  • @davidsuber5592
    @davidsuber5592 3 роки тому +5

    Great clip! Can't wait for the full roundtable!! Thanks guys!!!

  • @tradbowseven
    @tradbowseven 3 роки тому +31

    Evh, prince, etc. why couldn’t these producers say this stuff while the artists were alive?

    • @aprilwest1883
      @aprilwest1883 3 роки тому +10

      They were not allowed to talk anything about him
      . Even Wendy and Lisa said. They could not say anything.
      .

    • @theolynncarpenter4613
      @theolynncarpenter4613 3 роки тому +1

      BECAUSE THEY WERE SWORN TO SECRECY OUT OF RESPECT AND MOST TIMES CONFIDENTIALITY AGREEMENTS. THOSE BECOME NULL AND VOID AFTER DEATH!

    • @shawnajohnson5307
      @shawnajohnson5307 3 роки тому +1

      @@theolynncarpenter4613 yes

  • @EBUNNY2012
    @EBUNNY2012 3 роки тому +14

    Going back to "Bambie" ... Prince wailed on a guitar. Seriously.

    • @toekevin
      @toekevin 3 роки тому +7

      Actually “I’m Yours” from the first album is an even earlier example of some kick ass guitar playing. As a matter of fact every track on that song (all played by him of course) is pretty intense.

    • @sunsetsoundrecorders
      @sunsetsoundrecorders  3 роки тому

      @@SeriousTipStudio and you’re blocked!!

    • @sweetdaddy33
      @sweetdaddy33 3 роки тому

      @@SeriousTipStudio She sure did.

  • @julienceaser
    @julienceaser 3 роки тому +5

    He was so very underrated,
    it was Let's Go Crazy that sealed the deal with many including me..but this one over time has proven to be some of his finest guitar work. Even though like LRC this had to grow on me as a fan... it's one of the ones I continue to return to and hear it as if I was hearing it for the first time... funny I never noticed that there was no bass untill I read somewhere that the bass was missing ... Sign of a great song and how Prince was so right knowing there was no need for it. When the Revolution did it live with bass it's almost as if it looses it impact. He should have given Brown Mark a keyboard for that one. lol

    • @najinelson6742
      @najinelson6742 3 роки тому +5

      I do not think Prince was ever underrated, he always had lots of admirers amongst musicians. Prince was not just a guitarist like Van Halen or Paco de Lucia, he was the whole package. Everything he did, he did in an unique way on a high and special level

    • @julienceaser
      @julienceaser 3 роки тому +4

      @@najinelson6742 Underrated by the public

    • @najinelson6742
      @najinelson6742 3 роки тому +5

      @@julienceaser I d rather say by people who focus on guitar first and foremost. Prince was not only a guitarist, he was a multi-instrumentalist and multi talent and the best guitarist for his music, because through a guitar solo he could express his inner feelings and soul and led a song to its climax. It makes no sense to compare Prince to guitarists like Paco de Lucia, Al di Meola, Django or Joe Pass. These people were guitarists and composers "only", different focus. No one of these people would have played a solo better than Prince on Prince's songs. They are all great guitarists and no one is the best guitarist ever. And if you listened to interviews with Terry Lewis, Jimmy Jam, Morris Day etc you would know that Prince was considered a great guitarist already in his early years. Jimmy Jam: "He could immediately play everything on guitar with some amazing expression and adding his own flavor. Never copying, always absorbing from other artists and turning it to his own unique and special thing."

    • @julienceaser
      @julienceaser 3 роки тому +4

      @@najinelson6742 It took a while for the world to recognize that he was a great guitarist especially the casual fan.

  • @Fakename70
    @Fakename70 3 роки тому +4

    Peggy Mac in the liner notes on those albums

  • @lousekoya1803
    @lousekoya1803 3 роки тому +3

    Scotched to the screen every time I listen to one episode ! Thank you so much !

  • @dennisperin2989
    @dennisperin2989 3 роки тому +10

    I love that he didn’t really show off his playing, but when he picked up the instrument, freakin magic, he gets a lifetime pass for the end of Lets Go Crazy...

    • @chippy7745
      @chippy7745 3 роки тому +4

      I really like the song called “Guitar”....SO GOOD.

    • @candelise
      @candelise 3 роки тому +5

      Didn't really show off his playing? You OBVIOUSLY never saw Prince live!

  • @MusicFed
    @MusicFed 3 роки тому +4

    These videos are absolutely gold!!!

  • @profoundsinger
    @profoundsinger 3 роки тому +3

    This is so freakin cool!

  • @theStacyJames
    @theStacyJames Рік тому

    When Doves Cry is his one perfect song

  • @avace917
    @avace917 Рік тому +1

    He's definitely criminally underrated as a guitarist. I've seen him play Purple Rain 4 different times with 3 different bands and he played it better every time. Mind you the first 3 times were 85, 86 and 88

    • @Supercreep1000
      @Supercreep1000 8 місяців тому

      He is underrated by guitarists and dramatically overrated by non-guitarists.

    • @avace917
      @avace917 8 місяців тому

      @@Supercreep1000 I guess??

  • @wrongmower
    @wrongmower 3 роки тому +4

    Great history 👍

  • @dstroh22
    @dstroh22 3 роки тому

    the last minute of "why you wanna treat me so bad" has a great elfin solo

  • @sunsetsoundrecorders
    @sunsetsoundrecorders  3 роки тому

    PURPLE RAIN WORK ORDER
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  • @morganhernandez297
    @morganhernandez297 3 роки тому

    Thanx, Peggy. Indeed.

  • @jeffhall5888
    @jeffhall5888 2 роки тому +1

    Peggy is gorgeous!!

  • @sincerelyjerry244
    @sincerelyjerry244 3 роки тому +1

    thank you

  • @relicreapers571
    @relicreapers571 2 роки тому +1

    Along with the great stories of artists I enjoy listening to the engineering side as well having a home studio. Thing that sucks about recording yourself is having nobody at the driver seat 😵

  • @adrianjohnson3136
    @adrianjohnson3136 3 роки тому +2

    When Doves Cry is the most well disguised song ever made...the content drove his vocals and his guitar playing on that track...it was so over produced and over the top because thats the feeling he was trying to convey..."Maybe I'm just like father you know h'es to bold" "Maybe I'm just like my mother she's never satisfied"

  • @paulthompson8642
    @paulthompson8642 2 роки тому

    The man was brilliant THE END

  • @aperezdeal
    @aperezdeal 11 місяців тому

    Bodied up.

  • @dazeja
    @dazeja 2 місяці тому

    People always go on and on about the bass being gone but he had many songs without bass before that.

  • @MikeKiker
    @MikeKiker Рік тому +1

    Now I want to hear the overproduced version!

  • @redmondartwork
    @redmondartwork 3 роки тому +2

    Someone asked eric clapton what its like to be the greatest guitarist in the world he replied "i dont know, ask Prince."

  • @cavaleermountaineer3839
    @cavaleermountaineer3839 Рік тому

    The guy asking about "what inspired that" doesn't understand how real genius works, especially a performance and compositional genius like The Artist. He didn't need a "conscious idea" to tell him what to do or why to do it. It was all internal, the result of technical mastery and creative genius. It simply IS, like a volcano or a lightning bolt. Its Being is its Function.

  • @aaronfulkerson31
    @aaronfulkerson31 3 роки тому +5

    I remember being in high school trying to transcribe this song and realizing there was no bass. I almost didn't believe it, wondering if it was just low in the mix. Listened for it many times. It takes courage to entirely pull the bass out from a track. Who does that?

  • @Dante-qf9yd
    @Dante-qf9yd 3 роки тому +6

    Earnie Isley had that guitar sound before Van Halen.

    • @theolynncarpenter4613
      @theolynncarpenter4613 3 роки тому +1

      THANK YOU.... SMH. I HAD TO REP FOR THE AFRO AMERICAN PIONEERS TOO! SMH..THAT WAS DEFINITELY A WTF MOMENT!!

    • @cd6243
      @cd6243 3 роки тому +2

      @@theolynncarpenter4613 jimi hendrix lived with the isley brothers back in the day-- jimi had a big influence on Ernie

  • @ruigen8046
    @ruigen8046 2 роки тому +1

    Zappa answers his own questions.

  • @travismclaurin9419
    @travismclaurin9419 3 роки тому +4

    Prince was an Outstanding Guitarist. Clapton? Page? Beck? Van Halen?

  • @evrgreen_69
    @evrgreen_69 3 роки тому +1

    Arguably the last person who should of ever been in the room when Van Halen or Prince were making music but for whatever reason she was there and was an awesome part of the backstory of two of my favorite artist’s/bands..Thinking Peggy Mccreary is pretty cool 😎 !

    • @brin57
      @brin57 3 роки тому +2

      Why would you think she should have been the last person to be there? This comment makes no sense. She was his engineer!!

    • @evrgreen_69
      @evrgreen_69 3 роки тому +1

      @@brin57 my caveat was “arguably” ..for one I’m pretty sure she was there because she was up to work some overtime on a weekend with an unknown freshly signed artist..I think she was even warned his lyrics were risqué or at least somewhat sexual and maybe she should reconsider??..So on a couple of levels it was more fate to me than a pairing of some super engineer and a superstar ..but I digress..I think because of those reasons (and many more) it was musical magic that came together for all the right reasons and created amazing music...I’ll say again I think Peggy McCreary is pretty cool!!

    • @brin57
      @brin57 3 роки тому +1

      David McHugh As is the way of text, I misinterpreted your intent, and for that I apologize. I agree that it was a fateful pairing, and had she never confronted him on the communication issue right from the start, it may not have happened at all. I believe he respected her for that. I also believe he was definitely on the spectrum and was not surprised at how he operated and what he was like to work with. I’m not sure we’ll see another like him for a long time. Pure genius.

  • @Mo-MuttMusic
    @Mo-MuttMusic Рік тому +1

    Thanks for sharing. Great track. Shawn R., Mo-Mutt Music/Sacred & Secular

  • @christ1159
    @christ1159 2 роки тому +2

    If Prince isn’t in the top 10
    Best Guitarists - at least! Am I wrong?

  • @nexxxus7498
    @nexxxus7498 3 роки тому

    Prince was one of greatest guitarist ever!!! Anyone that say no, doesn’t know shit about music or musician!!!

    • @thestrangemanreturns
      @thestrangemanreturns 3 роки тому

      it's all opinion. Most of the guitarist I know will not put him in the top 20. Apples and oranges.

  • @DIGITAL7Media
    @DIGITAL7Media 2 роки тому +4

    That first riff to start off WDC is just......like jesus walking on water.

  • @pfunk42
    @pfunk42 2 роки тому

    He was underestimated as a guitar player...by whom? He certainly wasn't underestimated by other musicians.

  • @toekevin
    @toekevin 3 роки тому +4

    Great insights. I feel like she didn’t really answer the question about the guitar intro though. Billy Gibbons once asked Prince about that intro and he just said “that’s a secret” or something like that. Lol

    • @energyasylum997
      @energyasylum997 3 роки тому

      Yep, it was a Dan Rather interview Billy did where he said he walked into a club in New York shortly after the Princes’ epic RRHOF performance. Billy said he was caught off guard by Princes guitar abilities and that Prince burned that stage DOWN!! He added Prince if he could tech Billy the intro to When Doces Cry, and Prince said he came upon it by accident and they could go try to learn it together, and both of them laughed! Billy said he never knew Prince was a guitarist up until the RRHOF. Billy said he considered Prince a world class entertainer, singer, dancer, producer, but not a guitarist. He said that lol changed once he witnessed Prince at the RRHOF jam session!! He said Prince was a Prince! Rest In Peace Prince

  • @RideAcrossTheRiver
    @RideAcrossTheRiver 2 роки тому +1

    "The Beautiful Ones" is an example of "un-produced" minimalism.

    • @RobVollmar
      @RobVollmar 2 роки тому

      I still think it was Prince's best song. That performance haunts me.

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 2 роки тому

      @@RobVollmar It sounds like Vangelis meets Roger Daltrey on a freakout. Any rock band calling itself a rock band should get that one down.

  • @jonnuanez2843
    @jonnuanez2843 2 роки тому +1

    A question was asked in this clip about Eddie VH and him running into each other. I've been curious about for a long while. Can you imagine those minds meeting? Although it's very doubtful that they would sit together for a chat. Prince was coming up big time by the time Eddie built his 5150 studio, which was late 82 into 83. Titanic egos for both at that time.

  • @slod.3712
    @slod.3712 3 роки тому +5

    "played guitar well"..? WTF if you ever witnessed Prince live in concert you were in presence of probably the best guitar player in the world.

    • @sunsetsoundrecorders
      @sunsetsoundrecorders  3 роки тому

      under Eddie Van Halen

    • @slod.3712
      @slod.3712 3 роки тому +1

      @@behavioristbusiness7372 Many great musicians play the guitar with skill and technical mastery. Guys like Prince knew how to play with soul beyond the physical chords, licks and harmonies.

    • @thestrangemanreturns
      @thestrangemanreturns 3 роки тому +1

      @@slod.3712 what you consider soul is also debatable. Stop comparing and getting offended. I am a musician and Prince is my favorite artist of all time but not in my top 20 guitarists. It's all apples and oranges though. No real wrong or right answers when it comes to the elite class of musicians.

    • @EthnHayabusa
      @EthnHayabusa 3 роки тому +1

      @@thestrangemanreturns Exactly. "Best of all time" has no meaning in music. It is not a sport. Prince was unique, and that is enough.

  • @robertnesta4434
    @robertnesta4434 3 роки тому +2

    Would love to have heard the original bass track. Or better still watch her remix the stems to hear how each track sounded.

  • @Rhythmicons
    @Rhythmicons Рік тому

    I remember when WDC came out and I don't think I EVER wondered why it lacked a bass. And I'm a bass player!

  • @zubileegluckgluck
    @zubileegluckgluck Рік тому +1

    I can't believe NO ONE asked her what the bassline was like and what those huge guitars and synths sounded like! So frustrating!

  • @jgillettejukebox
    @jgillettejukebox 2 роки тому +1

    It didnt have a bass but I believe the Kick drum was tuned for each note.

  • @kevinhurston1555
    @kevinhurston1555 4 місяці тому

    It’s credited to Prince and the revolution but the reality it’s all Prince by himself