Michael Alig James St James, Friends Or Foes
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- Are Michael Alig and James St. James friends, or is there Beef between them over James' book and the Party Monster film.
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@2:00 - "A lot of the elements had been sensationalized" - So..these people knocked the victim out with a hammer, repeatedly punched his face after he was unconscious, poured Drano down his throat and taped his mouth shut, submerged him in a bathtub, left his body to rot for a week, then cut off his limbs and threw them, and the remainder of his body, into the Hudson River. DOES THIS NEED TO BE SENSATIONALIZED??
You failed to mention the 3rd person involved.
Theres people still trying to defend Micheal's crime. What's up with that?
All your "comments" aren't facts!! JS
@@nikki9doors500 who was the third person?? I keep seeing this but I don't get an answer.
Exactly! I feel terrible for angels family..
Such a shame that art and creativity can not coexist in a lot of cases without taking a horrible nose dive into drug dependency/ death.
I believe the term is Frenemies that may describe aligs and J st J relationship
Lol you actually said that term
:)
Yes that’s it.I have my own frenemy..I love u m D f but u still suck.
Well researched Retro room.Keep them coming.If you ever needed sponsoring just let us know.You're worth it.
Thank You Urban UK :)
Hey, what about The Peeew?! We do well-researched stories too! :)
A big HI Michael.
I think we are both agreed that "Retro Room" has a good heart and fair play to him he has done a lot to keep the Spirit of a place and time that once was but unbeknownst to many was a really important place to be from a cultural point of view.
We are all grateful to Nelson for doing his videos and also am grateful to you for being the switched on talented young guy you were and still are.
You have to realise Michael that along with 5ninthavenueprojectts efforts and truly truly passionate people like "our Retro Room" and others too, you and your crowd have given courage and a place of being and acceptance either physically or emotionally to tons of peeps all over the World.
Speaking for myself what I love about the likes of you and the characters from back in the day is what you all stood for and did.
Trying to be individual and just being true to who you are especially being "out there in your face not giving a shit wither people like it or not" takes fucking guts.
So many people find it difficult being in their skins but you Michael and your friends in the Club kid world are a breath of fresh air.It is by you being you along with other Club kiddies that is helping others summon the courage to be themselves.
Not many people can call themselves trail blazers but you are a shining example....mistakes and all you just keep being you because in doing so you really are changing the World and in a good way.
I can assure you there's a lot of love out here in the World for you and the Club kids.
You must be an incredible communicator to of organised and to of hosted the club scene and to of networked the way you did.
Yes I watch the "Peew" too.Bye the way who came up with the name Peew because Peew to me is the kind of thing one would say if they see or smelt say a babies shitty nappy.....lol...
Anyway on a serious note can you share with Retro Room viewers what you like about Retro room's channel and as an official viewer request from me I'd like to see the Peew put something together with Retro Room....perhaps Retro Room and you could video link together starting with Retro Room interviewing you Michael.
Come on now Michael you know you want to and what's more it is by I'm sure by very popular demand.
@@michaelalig6053 you killed someone. 👎
I'm really glad I got to know all these guys through Nelson Sullivan and not party monster
Such an interesting relationship they had.
"Elitist gays", boy, if that aint the pot calling out the kettle
Omg! I did NOT Michael had passed until I saw your, "Alig's Final Act," video! I have been on a binge of your videos this evening!🖤
I appreciate you watching, thank you 🙏
This is really good considering the friendship of James and Micheal and where they are at today. Thank You.
Thanks, I agree :)
The body was in the bathroom over a week, then another week in a box in the living room. I remember when this story was fresh and just developing how these two joked about Angel's death and their hatred was so peculiar you couldn't help but do a double take and marvel at their callousness. And this is before the body is found eh. These idiots really didn't think they'd get caught. Anyhow, it doesn't exonerate them if they did not actually shoot the corpse up with drano. I heard Michael say in an interview he put it on the corpse. But like I said it doesn't exonerate them and it isn't that important anymore. Imagine having a rotting corpse in your bathroom for a week. What kind of people do things like that? And all over some money they owed for drugs. And after they killed him they went on a drug using spree with Angel's drugs. They seemed to like that. They didn't seem to be very devastated by their murder of Angel as they say now. Dude, you're insane. These people obviously belong in a pit somewhere far away from humanity.
Michael Alig and Robert Riggs were convicted of manslaughter, for the death and dismemberment of Angel Melendez and received 20 year prison sentences (Riggs was given an early parole). James St. James didn't have anything to do with the murder. He wrote the book Disco Bloodbath, which was later made into the film, Party Monster.
Wow, that must have smelled lovely!
Yeah, this guy Retro seems like a decent guy with some good investigation skills but why he's hiving that POS the time of day and fan girling over him is beyond me, for real.
I don't know about you guys, but Michael Musto has given me the creeps since I was a little boy watching these guys on the talk shows (mid 90's..and I'm Canadian..so I guess I would have seen a lot of this stuff a little late).
He is creepy.
He's also a snitch~journalist.
He is a snitch he was cooler in the '80s but not by much
Nelson’s vids show what he’s about…
Why doesn't he age!?
OK I have just spent like 2 hours watching videos, loved it. However I'm starting to think I'm cyber stalking the club kids. Lol
Thanks for all these, keep going I'll indulge more later you rock. P.S. don't tell the club kids I secretly cyber stalk them =)
It's our secret ;)
@@RetroRoomYT are you still alive?
@@nikki9doors500 I've been leaving the exact same comment!!
Yeah but his book made him even MORE famous. That's why he is not upset about the lies. A mean a movie that was is my favorite would not have happened.
World of wonder guys were originally the pop tarts. Holy shit lol how did I know this. I watched all Nelson's videos. Lol
You should do an info video on Christina and her cake disaster. Find out why, if Nelson was such a friend, he kept filming without trying to help or comfort her? He used her so he could film her descent in the drug world! Everyone used her and then destroyed her. Such a shame...
Hey Nancy. One thing about being a good "Capturer" (the new term for filmmaker( is that you stay out of whatever is going and keep filming. But I hear ya. I spent the summer '18 Capturing ghetto street life between 12Am & 4am or so in the boroughs. One Saturday night in July, I watched two Long Island dudes humiliating an underage prostitute who was hysterical. Instead of calling the cops (a death sentence nowadays in NYC(, I just kept rolling and 4 months later, I am having trouble living with myself.
@@carlocee6699 You should, that is astoundingly shitty just for some shitty amateur documentary that nobody will ever notice.
Carlo Cee Im so curious to what you saw and heard during that summer?
It’s all a drama but makes good entertainment lol. Thorough and informative video once again!
lol thanks, I thought it was interesting :)
2 egos fighting for the limelight. They are both so different but always were going to clash. They are a pretty exerburant pair feeding off each others drug fuelled energy . It must of been a strain for all when Alig committed manslaughter, so confusing for the relationship.
You can put draino in a syringe. As long as the gauge of the needle is big enough. It should work
Michael Alig is a good friend of mine actually. He can be a big personality but he is a kind and sweet person. James St. James is also a very big personality. Its hard because they both take up so much air in a room. They are good friends. Friends forever.
:) Thanks Luca
I don't understand how someone can be kind but show so little remorse and so much entitlement in his interviews regarding the murder. I hope you're not being manipulated.
The kindest sweetest murderer there ever was. Wtf? 🤦♀️
Awe..I’m glad..I think they were frenemies..I have my own frenemie..in my life..I love that bitch, but I can’t stand her at times n want to destroy that bitch..but I love her forever.. I was sad to hear about Michael n was curious about James st James n his thoughts on it..I’m sorry u lost your friend..I know nothing hurts like a friends loss.
I’d like a clarification also. Surprised to learn Alig and James are still friendly at all. I was under the impression, as you implied, that Michael was not so happy with the way he was portrayed in Party Monster OR maybe it was that he got no money for any of it-book or movie.
I hope they shed some light on this in the Shockumentary sequel
Hes a murderer. Who gives a shit how he feels about how he was portrayed.
Another awesome video, as always!
Thank You MrShedinthepeg :)
Wow so much good information
To think he could get "Fame" or be apart of the "Elitest Gays" is comical, after getting out of Prison after so many years. That's probably why he had so many "issues" after the fact.
I have the second edition of project x!
That’s awesome
Retro room do you know what ever became of Nelson's friend Eddie?
Eddie had a heap of a car where the electric Sunroof was broken.Eddie wore big glasses as well.
Thanks Retro room.You should let your viewers and members know how Retro room is evolving and let them know how global Retro Room is now.
For instance me (John) I live in England over in the UK .
I'd love to know how widespread our members are.It provides a dynamic of community.Just chewing the fat RR so please do share your thoughts.
Neo Noir High 5 buddy.Yep I too am watching Retro Room as I do most nights.BIG THUMBS UP from England.
I’ve often wondered about him too. His name is Eddie Braddock however he may go by the name Carol Braddock now and I think he does something called ‘colorsign’ (twitter name @colorsign Red Ed). I’m not 100% about him using the name ‘Carol’ or if it’s is someone linked to him however.
Heramitep Thanks.👍🏽
URBAN UK LEGEND 68 Thanks, I'm not sure but I will look into Eddie :) I love that suggestion, I will look into it and let you know where we all are and in what countries, I know there's quite a few countries but I'll have to find a list :)
URBAN UK LEGEND 68 no probs 👍
I’d rather know what actually happened, also, Retro! Just the facts Ma’am 🎉
As to the Drano & Syringe issue. Wouldn't there have been some sort of toxicology report on the remains found of Angel's body? Don't really know if that is possible being that they were probably grossly decomposed. Just a thought.
I think the body was so badly decomposed by the time it was recovered, that they could only identify it as Angel's by dental records.
You literally can’t put draino into a syringe. It melts the plastic. He didn’t inject it, he poured it down his throat and then put duct tape over his mouth
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Foes
Are they friends, or frenemies? JSJ trashed Alig in his book and never visited him when he was in jail but all of a sudden, Alig's out, and they resume their friendship? And wtf with JSJ goading Alig with the comments about the Hudson River...don't get these two. If JSJ was so outraged by what happened, as his book would seem to imply, why rekindle a friendship with him?
Maybe more to the story
Wait what.. forgive me but I thought it was freezer who made the confession about the Draino not St James. So if he was told it by Micheal and if Frezzer said it in his confession id have to ask you.. how has it been "debunked"?
In Freeze's confession, he states Michael put a cleaning product in Angel's mouth and then covered it with duct tape.... immediately after suffocating him with a pillow. Perhaps that incident was embellished into Drano in a syringe....and really, there Isn't a lot difference. Like, cleaning product in the taped mouth is just as horrible.
I was loving james so much and i just found out about this shit..fucking awful..im so confused and sad about this. "Friends for over 30 years" WHY?! and why did everyone just keep fucking quiet about the murder and love micheal? I dont understand!!! Rest in peace Angel..
I'm only getting into this topic, learning about the atrocious crime Michael committed, the genius of Nelson and the mysterious Christina and I have to admit I'm still really confused about certain aspects of it but even more so in awe at how the whole club scene basically welcomed the murderer right back into the circle for nostalgia sake? I'm glad to see I'm not the only one so I had to reply. And then it's also its so sad how Nelson and Christina were just forgotten and never talked about again except for fans of their work / personas once they passed. Another thing I'd like to know about is Rupauls opinion on all of this? There's one video particularly where Nelson and friends are celebrating Rus bday and he is introduced to Michael so they did know each other, I wonder if he also knew Angel... It's all so mysterious to me but overall just tragic.
I think the term is frenemies
The same two pics over and over what is this
James doesn't seem to be friend material lol
Its "Look at huh",…..not "Look at her" lol
I'm glad Michael Alig stated that WoW were elitist gays...but I thought they were all like that. I would never have dared to talk to any of them & I'll talk to anyone!! Born-to-Laters don't realize how snobby they were. Especially toward straight dudes and girls. Don't get angry, I'm just reporting how I remember it. BTW, Love the info you provide on my new idol: Nelson.!
Any idea what happened to the pee-ew. Nothing new in a while.
I'm not sure, they have been very quiet. If I hear anything I'll share for sure :
Retro Room Thanks for the reply. And thanks for your videos, keep up the good work!
Jeeze, aren't we allowed to take a vacation every now and then?!
lol
Alig is a murderer.
You dont say
I love James St.James lolwildlol
James st. James was never a real friend
I think Alig was jealous of Nelson Sullivan. This video was taken right before Alig's snubbed Musto, (7) New Years Eve 1989 with the Club Kids - UA-cam
Nope he did not wanted it recorded then. Different times.
James didn't really like alig as much as he let on.
I think so too