I drove the RWD EV6 and was very impressed by the overall package, especially how well built the car was. It was slow, but that was expected. I then drove the AWD Ioniq 5 and was impressed by how quick it was. I assume the AWD EV6 is equally impressive.
The Koreans seem to be significantly ahead of the Japanese in electrification. I don't think they have that much factory capacity for the EV6/Ionic models, and probably the USA will only get 10K or 20K of these, which will easily sell out. Good to see some competition for Tesla. As these are just the first ones from Hyundai group, I expect the next generation to be significantly better. They are already competent, so the next round will give Tesla a real battle.
@@davekozlowski1266 Mild electrification seems to add about 8k to the price of a car like the RAV4, which makes it a tough decision, and full electrification seems to add about 20k to the price of a car. This will come down over time, as we can see in the Ford Maverick, where for the first time a hybrid model is cheaper than the gas only version. Consumers responded enthusiastically, and the Maverick has a 1 year waiting list. The Koreans have access to basically infinite capital, and they can price new cars at whatever they want; but so far they are getting about 50k for them, because they are very nice. The market lets you charge a premium for electric only, and until more competition arrives, it will be a high-end product.
These (EV6 / Ioniq 5) are actually the 2nd generation of EVs from Hyundai group. The first generation being the original Ioniq, Kia Niro, and Hyundai Kona. All of which were also well-regarded for their time!
The reason why the the Japanese are behind at this moment in time on their EVs (at least according to Honda's CEO) is due to wanting to wait for the better battery tech (solid state) to become mainstream before they go all in. They believe in a couple of years the lithium ion batteries will be outdated so they feel like it is better to wait it out for the solid state tech. I kind of get the logic as many auto experts are saying that due to the advantages solid state batteries have, more people will be investing in switching to an EV.
YES, this is a BIG difference. The EV6 is eligible for the $7,500 federal tax credit and the MSRP is less. Another plus for the KIA is that it is sold and serviced by every KIA dealer throughout the US. So even in rural America you're much closer to a KIA repair facility than with a Tesla.
@@eurosteve50 Tesla has weird pricing their way more expensive than mainstream rivals like this and a vw id4 and are closer to luxury brands like Audi and Mercedes but without any of the luxury 😂🤷🏼♂️ VW id4 in base set up is $16k cheaper than even the Kia in this video I feel like that’s the best “value” EV
Have you actually tried to buy one?? The markups are insane. It's not cheaper than a Model Y in the real world. Also Tesla's service is Mobile. I'm 6 miles away from a service center but they still come out to my house.
@@RezandJen very easy to find dealers that sell at MSRP. People just have to put in the work, but there are many locations in different states that charge MSRP.
Since Tesla added to automatic heated seat function, I've never needed to turn it on or off manually. I'm astonnished how well it works. Also for those that don't want auto, with the latest update you can permanently put the heated seats next to the temp
Yes that is true but I guarantee you this next model 3 and model y will have ventilated seats too as well all the things they got in the ev6 I'm pretty sure he can put them on the Tesla
@@kaliberoh955 I have no problems with the rain sensor/auto wipers, althought it would be a simple fix to just add sensitivity option to auto wipers. The auto high beams on the other hand are really bad... hope they switch to matrix soon, and also hope they do matrix better than those auto high beams
@@kaliberoh955 not that good? my model 3 2022 is a nightmare. When it rains the wipers auto doesnt work and when it doesnt it gets triggered so much i just turn it off. Also in the winter with the A/C set on auto it just keeps turing on the windsheld defrosting. Like what the actual fuck my car must be possessed
I've heard a few people shorter than me say there's no headroom in the EV6, I test drove one, with the sunroof, and it was fine for me at 6'2. I ordered the one without the sunroof though...
It depends a bit on how long your torso is - some people well over 6' have no problems, some just under struggle. I am 5'10" with a long torso and it is ok for me but I do have to have the seat as low as possible.
As a Tesla model 3 owner that drives a lot, I’m very interested in the alternatives. It’s GREAT to hear that someone has made a more comfortable competitor. However, once you’re used to the acceleration and autopilot on the Tesla that’s hard to give up. How does the Kia/Hyundai lane keep assist/adaptive cruise control compare to Tesla? What about the acceleration? Also, how do safety features compare? It’s really good to know that Tesla was given such a high rating. The interior does look like Kia has put a lot of thought into it, but I’m not convinced that a Kia will hold its value nearly as well as a Tesla. I hope I’m wrong, I wish them success!
Kia hda2 beats autopilot with most tests I have seen. It has a 0-60 of 4.6 seconds. It comes with over 25 safety features and has a 5 star rating in the nhtsa tests, just like the model 3. Also it costs less than the model 3.
@@youngchirp12 Autopilot is free with every Tesla. It’s something I activate probably 30-40x a day, so it makes a big difference. At least with Kia it should be fairly easy to test drive to see if it works.
@@areyoudownwithp yeah I know autopilot is free with every Tesla cuz I have full self driving on my Tesla and I drove the ev6 that's why I say Tesla is by far with the driver assistance better than a Kia
Dude thats not even autopilot , thats an automotive assits hardware which easiy hacked by see eye aey. Except u one of them 😅😅 This ev implementation hypocrissy making people dont realize that u need several extended gadget or electrical adaptor buildt in at your own home. Not echofrendly at all. Its better using small block diesel generator with small homemade electric car. Everybody knew evsedan manufacturer ovvner (€lites) even more worst than motorcycle manufacture. They rules fossilfuel , hydrogen , ethanol , biodiesel , and else to made u thinking ev 》 the only option. How the heck military vehicles and or govt motorcades could easily switch to fully ev with big powerbank every single day ?? Even 0tredeau's motorcade still give canadian familiar exhaust sounds each single day. (Libs knew that)
When it comes to driving, the EV6 feels far more stable. I driven both a Panmera and a Taycan (no 911) I would say the EV6 is far closer with a planted feel at highway speeds where as the Y felt semi-unstable at higher speeds. Also, the Y I test drove already had issues such as door rattles, and storage bin doors that wouldn't work. KIA is (now) known for decent build quality, and also way better warranty. Also in real world driving, the EV6 seems to be achieving its range estimates (however barely) while the Model Y is way off, typically meeting the EV6. I do believe its on the small size though, and is more wagon that SUV or even CUV, but I think the same can be said about the Y. It doesn't have that white knuckle acceleration, but I didn't miss it when testing it, and its far more user friendly and practical. I also looked at a 700 mile drive on better route planner, and the EV6 only stops twice for charging, while the Model Y had me stopping over 5 times. The charge times were way different, but that's a lot of stops, almost as much as a Hummer (7 if I recall). I'd choose the EV6 first.
Until you actually DRIVE that route, don't believe the Kia charge speed. Watch the actual charging tests, preferably those with multiple vehicles at the same time in a "real world" journey. (Try RSymons UA-cam channel) You'll be surprised.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Not really. At the end of the day I trust my judgment most of all. I have driven both cars along the same route. The Tesla had far better acceleration, but the wheel also liked to twist and the suspensi9n felt like a far older car. In fact my 10 year old Toyota, who has never had any suspension work done on it, felt better. The EV6 also felt far better. Not as nice as a Porsche, but still far better handling and stability.
One area where all these non Tesla EVs fail big is sentry mode. People need 24/7 video recording to catch car break-ins, key scratchers, accidents. If EV6 had this i would be completely sold.
Had owned cars for 12 years and yet to have a break in or keyed scratch. All depends on where you park the car and what neighborhood you live in. If I am in such a place would rather buy a hybrid Camry or RAV4 and stay safe and attract less attention.
In my 25 years of owning 20+ cars there's never been an incident of scratching on any one of them. Maybe the problem is with some Tesla owners being a douchebag. And yeah nobody's going to be jealous of someone driving a Kia 🤣
EV6 is nice, but here in South Florida I've gone to several Kia Dealerships and no one has any. While Tesla is making about 60,000 Model Y's per month BEFORE opening Giga Texas AND Giga Berlin, which should DOUBLE Model Y production by the end of the year. Kia is only making about 6,000 EV6 per month. They have the same issue with the Ioniq 5, the Kona Electric, the Kia Niro, pretty much all their electric cars, so while it may be a "compelling alternative" if you can't get one, what's the point? At least with Tesla you can order a car and even though you have to wait 6 months you actually get it. At Kia, they won't even let me place an order. All they do is try to get me to buy a Gas Powered vehicle, of which I have ZERO interest.
Telsa only makes 4 models. So they can make 10s of thousands of one model. They also make only EVs. Kia makes many different models and different types of vehicles. The Kia EV6 is ramping up. It's only in its first year where Tesla's 3 and Y have been made for a few years now. It's going to take some time before Kia is building a lot more EV6s and they also have more EV models coming out, like the EV6 sedan.
@@benjaminsmith2287 But wasn't that the whole thing that everyone was saying... "Just wait until Legacy Auto gets in the game" and "They're going to SWAMP Tesla with cars" .... The Kona and Niro EV's have been out since 2018 and they started importing them to the USA in 2019. Each are STILL limited both in production AND the number of states they're available in. Here in South Florida we can't even get the Kona EV not even in a special order and as for the Niro EV, the dealerships WON'T take orders because they don't even know when is the next time they will get them... When they do get them customers get into a bidding war over them. NOBODY gets the stated "$289 a month lease" A Kia Dealer told me that he was so excited when the EV6 was announced, because he figured that it would end the electric car shortage at the place, but the EV6 has changed nothing they STILL don't make enough and most dealers only get 1 or 2 every couple of months. He told me he could literally sell 2 or 3 a day with all the demand, but of course there is no REAL supply. Let's face it, Hyundai doesn't want to ramp down their other cars to sell EV's because they have way too much money invested in that business. They bring in people interested in EV's and use that as a way to "Bait and Switch" customers into buying their ICE cars or a Hybrid.
@@zubinix hopefully now that the European gigafactory is open Tesla can redirect their exports from Europe to Australia and New Zealand, either way you slice it Tesla is not only making way more EVS than everyone else but they're also ramping production and expanding capacity faster than practically anyone else
I live in SW FL and you ha ve call around . I had to drive to Tampa to pickup my GT line AWD but I did it and had to pay a 5k markup since it was in stock and a Matte Gray GT L
I have the house wired to connect to the car in the event of a power cut. I can switch over in five minutes or less and run the basic house needs for up to a week.
Interesting stuff. EV6 for me. One thing I've noticed that nobody's mentioning the Tesla turning circle or turning radius. It's really bad. We have mini roundabouts in the UK and a Tesla won't get round them without having to back up and do a three point turn or five point turn. I've seen it and the annoyed other drivers waiting for the Tesla to get round these mini roundabouts.
@@Slarti2 unfortunately it comes with the territory. Both are AWD so steering is restricted, plus they both have a long wheel base to take full advantage of their size for the SUV class. Both of which together is a deadly combination for turning circle
Both very nice cars. I'm also 6ft tall and agree that the EV6 cabin feels cramped (a problem that I don't have in my ID3 which has plenty of headroom). But at the moment, neither of these are enticing me away from my ID3 Family Edition which cost less than half the price of these cars, has a full panoramic roof, reasonably good performance and a real world range of 180-250 miles (depending of conditions). If i'm paying twice the price then I will only switch to a Model Y once they are using the next generation of battery tech and WLTP range is in excess of 400 miles. And as the EV6 feels too cramped I will wait for the EV7 and if that has improved headroom, a panoramic roof and upgraded battery tech with a 400+ miles range then i'm in. Otherwise i'm sticking with my ID3. My feeling is that that Tesla will get there first.
I’m 6 feet tall and I have a Ev6 and I don’t feel that way 🤔 it’s so much space inside and the back seats too. Also I charge level 1 at night where I live and I get 6 to 8 miles an hour, not 2
Yea I’m 6 4 and I don’t have this issue unless I lean towards to side I mean I did notice I clipped it at first but once my seat was in the right spot it’s not an issue anymore daily driving the car.
@@USUG0 - actually the USED value on ALL Tesla have gone up, without Robotaxi, TESLA is launching Robotaxi in 2023 with Single Body casting, and TESLA is launching FSD wide beta before year end.
@@Reddylion you are delusional. It is not as easy as it seems. The best coding talent is at Tesla. The KIA will not allow you to pre condition your car before charging. They said they will fix that by the middle of the year. No over the air software update. KIA as years behind Tesla and everybody who is not paid to tell you otherwise will confirm that.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 stop spreading lies or half baked information. people who don’t research will fall for your lie and assume it’s correct about battery conditioning and over the air updates etc the fact is there is battery conditioning present now in modern Niro ev aswell as ev6, they always had OTA updates. ua-cam.com/video/7eXW7YVvZXU/v-deo.html
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 actually, the precondition update was released late last year. By your logic, that also means that Tesla is not capable of all the features the EV6 has that Teslas do not. Like an instrument panel (imagine having one of those in a car!), or a heads up display (so the driver is actually looking at the road), Carplay and Android Auto, 360° camera, actual buttons to control common features (so you dont have to buy special gloves just to drive your car), a sunroof that opens with a shade (so you aren't constantly baking under the sun), cooled ventilated seats (a common feature on cars much cheaper than a Tesla), a comfortable ride (though, why would people want to be comfortable in their car?), vehicle to load capability, 800v charging, decent build quality, driver assistance systems that are not constantly giving false alerts (phantom braking), and styling that is interesting. If Tesla were capable of doing these things, they would have. So they must be completely incapable. Of course, I don't really believe that. I'm just pointing out how flawed your argument is. Tesla is absolutely capable and so is Kia.
I love and rather the Kia ev6 over the Tesla model y by far .its a more beautiful looking car by far in and out. Only thing the Tesla model y has over it is range and alittle bit more better charging when it comes to fast charge. The Kia drives better and handles better too by far
Technically the model Y handles better. It did significantly better in the moose test for stability and handling than the EV6. The model Y is also a full time AWD, whilst the EV6 AWD variants switch to RWD at speeds over 40 km/h. It’s also thanks to teslas stiffer sportier suspension for the handling too which has the drawback of being less comfortable.
Whilst the model Y is more sluggish than the EV6, I don’t necessarily think the Tesla is so behind in general. Long term, yes, Tesla will be overtaken by the larger innovation and rapid pace in China and even South Korea; but at least for right now Tesla has a good following that could hold out for several years.
From what I hear now everyone is competing for the same limited battery resources, driving prices up. Until battery tech improves and resources increase I’m afraid EV production will be severely limited. And demand for them is only going up
When you factor in the dealer mark ups, multiple issues with the HVAC and audio for the EV6 no dedicated charging network, no over the air updates no at home repairs and terrible Kia dealers, I would still get a Tesla.
@@LoveStrangeDr Hahaha not where I live. Dealership here are marking them 10k. Either way I ended up getting a Model Y. I love the dedicated charging network, OTA's, in home service 250kw charging. All stuff the Kia doesen't have or even offer.
@@RezandJen That's great! Both cars have pros and cons but I believe EV6 charges faster. Anyhow, congrats on your buy and no need to try to defend your purchase!
Forgive me, Tesla fans, but I think the Model Y looks like a misshapen blob. We've ordered an EV6, in part because of the horizontal, side-by-side screens - as opposed to the "iPad" of Teslas and the Mach-e.
I don't get why people saying Tesla's are ugly look at the ev6 back that s*** ugly as f*** now the front looks decent same thing with a Tesla I mean the back of the Tesla looks f****** amazing the front of the Tesla people saying look ugly like a egg to me I think the Tesla way better than the ev6 by far
I was thinking the same thing! Although, to be fair - there are a few 5' 6" reviewers out there (ie. Sofan from Redline Reviews, Yuri from The Straight Pipes come to mind). But yeah, overwhelmingly 6' plus.
I owned a Tesla Model 3 Dual motor and traded it in for EV6 GT line and it rides miles better than a Tesla. Quieter, smoother and overall more comfortable. Not as quick but better brakes and more Regen settings with paddle shifters and easy to change drive modes from steering wheel vs a damn menu on screen
Hey Ricky! Thanks for watching. We did take these EVs to the drag strip and put them through a lot more testing, you can check that out here: ua-cam.com/video/3olBvdpMlbs/v-deo.html
Having recently retired, I am starting to consider downsizing from my 2015 model S, which has been a fantastic car. The EV6 seemed to tick a lot of boxes for me; Significantly cheaper than model Y, comparable performance in actual driving to my "old" model S, head-up display I still miss from my previous 5 series, Android auto compatibility, fast charging and it looks great. But I'm 6' tall and I really don't like my head being that high in the car. So it's off the list.
Who wants a dedicated button for adjusting your side view mirrors taking up space when you’ll only ever touch them once the entire time you own the car?
Are you worried about a few inches on your door pillar being occupied? You're acting like that space is actually being used in a tesla thanks to it not having those buttons. Anyways that's not even what I was talking about, I'm referring to buttons you actually use every time you get in a car. Like your volume, climate controls, sunroof, windows, etc. Not sure why you are strawmanning my point. I'll assume Musk fan-boy though. @@engineeringtheweirdguy2103
This makes me laugh. I drive an ev6 first edition and I regularly get double back stares, questions, and compliments about it. I have even caught people taking pics of it parked. For reference I do live in LA where every third car is a Tesla. People stop caring about the badge when they look past it at the actual car
How can you compare EV6 with that ugly fridge. Ev6 beats any Tesla in every aspect from looks to quality etc.. Damn I never owned more crapier car then Tesla it’s like cheapest Chinese plastics and ugly interior. And EV6 is like porche of EV’s
Weird, everyone who drives my Tesla says the opposite. Infact they have a term for it. Called “the Tesla smile” or “the Tesla giggle” it’s weird to have a term for enjoying the feel of driving a car when they are not enjoyable to drive. Wouldn’t you think?
I went to check out kia Ev.. sorry but Tesla has so much to over. Space, phone connection/control.. I'm so tired of dealership markups.. car MSRP $52,000 PLUS $9000 for dealership pockets. I mostly will never buy from dealership again because of their dishonesty.
I get it but you get damn 7500 back from Tax rebate and Kia is much cheaper and has Android auto and Apple car play. EV6 has same interior space possibly more. Cargo space, yes the Y has more but how much you really need.
@@kkgolf5371not any more. teslas now much cheaper than the EV6. Also you have to plug your phone in to the car to get android auto or car play so you can stream your music. You can stream your music in the Tesla even without your phone! So no plugging it in with a physical cable every time you enter the car. And yes the Y has significantly more boot and frunk space. But it also has objectively more interior space with higher head rooms and the drivers seats being off the floor meaning you can stretch your legs out straight under the seat infront, the EV6 can’t do that. Although it is true that both cars have roughly the same amount of knee room. But that’s not the only factor for passenger space.
I test drove this and really considered it over a Tesla. Man was I disappointed. A Tesla is like a street legal Go Kart and it's as much fun as that sounds. The KIA is just plain boring to drive. To fun at all. It is not nimble and it s not dynamic at all. The software is outdated and the car does not have any charging planning. Can you imagine that? An EV that doesn't tell you where to charge? Jlro it has a very small trunk in comparison. And in the Winter it has the worst charge speed of all the Evs. That's why it's called EV 6. You can only really drive it 6 months of the year. With all the paid reviews people have no idea how bad this car really is. I was shocked at myself for even considering it for one second.
And yet it was awarded the car of the year award 2022. Also reviews are all saying it is a great car. You mean all channels are dirty, including the car of the year comitee? I wouldn't think so.
@@mackan7086 of course they are. Don't you get it? Who pays the bills? The advertisers. Who spends nothing on advertising and everything on r&d? Tesla. I also fell for the fake reviews until I drove it myself. What a disappointing and eye opening experience.
@@mackan7086 it's so funny hearing stupid people talking about logic. That is the logic. KIA pays for advertising on TV channels. Of course the reviews on these channels are positive. Tesla doesn't pay for advertisment. Thus they are not even mentioned in car of the year reports. It's not rocket science, man. Just use your brain.
The Ev6 is a game changer. I'm waiting on the full performance GT arriving the end of the year.
I drove the RWD EV6 and was very impressed by the overall package, especially how well built the car was. It was slow, but that was expected. I then drove the AWD Ioniq 5 and was impressed by how quick it was. I assume the AWD EV6 is equally impressive.
Yes it is.
The Koreans seem to be significantly ahead of the Japanese in electrification. I don't think they have that much factory capacity for the EV6/Ionic models, and probably the USA will only get 10K or 20K of these, which will easily sell out. Good to see some competition for Tesla. As these are just the first ones from Hyundai group, I expect the next generation to be significantly better. They are already competent, so the next round will give Tesla a real battle.
that's fine.... I don't trust KOREAN dealerships in the USA! they have the WORSE TECHS and WORSE SALES! EVER!
They don't need to be better than a Tesla, they just need to be better than the ice cars in it's price range
@@davekozlowski1266 Mild electrification seems to add about 8k to the price of a car like the RAV4, which makes it a tough decision, and full electrification seems to add about 20k to the price of a car. This will come down over time, as we can see in the Ford Maverick, where for the first time a hybrid model is cheaper than the gas only version. Consumers responded enthusiastically, and the Maverick has a 1 year waiting list.
The Koreans have access to basically infinite capital, and they can price new cars at whatever they want; but so far they are getting about 50k for them, because they are very nice.
The market lets you charge a premium for electric only, and until more competition arrives, it will be a high-end product.
These (EV6 / Ioniq 5) are actually the 2nd generation of EVs from Hyundai group. The first generation being the original Ioniq, Kia Niro, and Hyundai Kona. All of which were also well-regarded for their time!
The reason why the the Japanese are behind at this moment in time on their EVs (at least according to Honda's CEO) is due to wanting to wait for the better battery tech (solid state) to become mainstream before they go all in. They believe in a couple of years the lithium ion batteries will be outdated so they feel like it is better to wait it out for the solid state tech. I kind of get the logic as many auto experts are saying that due to the advantages solid state batteries have, more people will be investing in switching to an EV.
you forgot to mention the ev6 is potentially 14k cheaper.
In the old days, that would have been the only relevant argument
YES, this is a BIG difference. The EV6 is eligible for the $7,500 federal tax credit and the MSRP is less. Another plus for the KIA is that it is sold and serviced by every KIA dealer throughout the US. So even in rural America you're much closer to a KIA repair facility than with a Tesla.
@@eurosteve50 Tesla has weird pricing their way more expensive than mainstream rivals like this and a vw id4 and are closer to luxury brands like Audi and Mercedes but without any of the luxury 😂🤷🏼♂️ VW id4 in base set up is $16k cheaper than even the Kia in this video I feel like that’s the best “value” EV
Have you actually tried to buy one?? The markups are insane. It's not cheaper than a Model Y in the real world. Also Tesla's service is Mobile. I'm 6 miles away from a service center but they still come out to my house.
Buy the Tesla 100 times easier than ev6 ,They will add 10k more
@@RezandJen very easy to find dealers that sell at MSRP. People just have to put in the work, but there are many locations in different states that charge MSRP.
Since Tesla added to automatic heated seat function, I've never needed to turn it on or off manually. I'm astonnished how well it works.
Also for those that don't want auto, with the latest update you can permanently put the heated seats next to the temp
Yes that is true but I guarantee you this next model 3 and model y will have ventilated seats too as well all the things they got in the ev6 I'm pretty sure he can put them on the Tesla
I personally hate it, it turns on during summer. The rain sensor and headlights sensor's aren't that Good either. Besides that I like the car a lot.
@@kaliberoh955 I have no problems with the rain sensor/auto wipers, althought it would be a simple fix to just add sensitivity option to auto wipers.
The auto high beams on the other hand are really bad... hope they switch to matrix soon, and also hope they do matrix better than those auto high beams
@@kaliberoh955 not that good? my model 3 2022 is a nightmare. When it rains the wipers auto doesnt work and when it doesnt it gets triggered so much i just turn it off. Also in the winter with the A/C set on auto it just keeps turing on the windsheld defrosting. Like what the actual fuck my car must be possessed
I've heard a few people shorter than me say there's no headroom in the EV6, I test drove one, with the sunroof, and it was fine for me at 6'2. I ordered the one without the sunroof though...
I'm 6'3"..... And it was "tight"
It depends a bit on how long your torso is - some people well over 6' have no problems, some just under struggle. I am 5'10" with a long torso and it is ok for me but I do have to have the seat as low as possible.
I 'm 5'6"...so it's ok with me 😅
As a Tesla model 3 owner that drives a lot, I’m very interested in the alternatives. It’s GREAT to hear that someone has made a more comfortable competitor. However, once you’re used to the acceleration and autopilot on the Tesla that’s hard to give up. How does the Kia/Hyundai lane keep assist/adaptive cruise control compare to Tesla? What about the acceleration? Also, how do safety features compare? It’s really good to know that Tesla was given such a high rating. The interior does look like Kia has put a lot of thought into it, but I’m not convinced that a Kia will hold its value nearly as well as a Tesla. I hope I’m wrong, I wish them success!
Kia hda2 beats autopilot with most tests I have seen. It has a 0-60 of 4.6 seconds. It comes with over 25 safety features and has a 5 star rating in the nhtsa tests, just like the model 3. Also it costs less than the model 3.
The Kia driver assist is not better than a Tesla by far the price of the autopilot of the Tesla makes the Kia better
@@youngchirp12 Autopilot is free with every Tesla. It’s something I activate probably 30-40x a day, so it makes a big difference. At least with Kia it should be fairly easy to test drive to see if it works.
@@areyoudownwithp yeah I know autopilot is free with every Tesla cuz I have full self driving on my Tesla and I drove the ev6 that's why I say Tesla is by far with the driver assistance better than a Kia
Dude thats not even autopilot , thats an automotive assits hardware which easiy hacked by see eye aey. Except u one of them 😅😅
This ev implementation hypocrissy making people dont realize that u need several extended gadget or electrical adaptor buildt in at your own home. Not echofrendly at all. Its better using small block diesel generator with small homemade electric car. Everybody knew evsedan manufacturer ovvner (€lites) even more worst than motorcycle manufacture. They rules fossilfuel , hydrogen , ethanol , biodiesel , and else to made u thinking ev 》 the only option. How the heck military vehicles and or govt motorcades could easily switch to fully ev with big powerbank every single day ?? Even 0tredeau's motorcade still give canadian familiar exhaust sounds each single day. (Libs knew that)
When it comes to driving, the EV6 feels far more stable. I driven both a Panmera and a Taycan (no 911) I would say the EV6 is far closer with a planted feel at highway speeds where as the Y felt semi-unstable at higher speeds. Also, the Y I test drove already had issues such as door rattles, and storage bin doors that wouldn't work. KIA is (now) known for decent build quality, and also way better warranty. Also in real world driving, the EV6 seems to be achieving its range estimates (however barely) while the Model Y is way off, typically meeting the EV6. I do believe its on the small size though, and is more wagon that SUV or even CUV, but I think the same can be said about the Y. It doesn't have that white knuckle acceleration, but I didn't miss it when testing it, and its far more user friendly and practical. I also looked at a 700 mile drive on better route planner, and the EV6 only stops twice for charging, while the Model Y had me stopping over 5 times. The charge times were way different, but that's a lot of stops, almost as much as a Hummer (7 if I recall). I'd choose the EV6 first.
"Kia build quality"
Are you sure?
Check the forums.
(Numerous recalls already)
Until you actually DRIVE that route, don't believe the Kia charge speed.
Watch the actual charging tests, preferably those with multiple vehicles at the same time in a "real world" journey.
(Try RSymons UA-cam channel)
You'll be surprised.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Kia still has far fewer and far less serious recalls than Tesla has had in recent years.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Not really. At the end of the day I trust my judgment most of all. I have driven both cars along the same route. The Tesla had far better acceleration, but the wheel also liked to twist and the suspensi9n felt like a far older car. In fact my 10 year old Toyota, who has never had any suspension work done on it, felt better. The EV6 also felt far better. Not as nice as a Porsche, but still far better handling and stability.
have you test drove the Toyota bz4x? what 's your opinion between EV6 and bz4x?
One area where all these non Tesla EVs fail big is sentry mode. People need 24/7 video recording to catch car break-ins, key scratchers, accidents. If EV6 had this i would be completely sold.
Yes it has all the hardware , software for these modes is a must.
Had owned cars for 12 years and yet to have a break in or keyed scratch. All depends on where you park the car and what neighborhood you live in. If I am in such a place would rather buy a hybrid Camry or RAV4 and stay safe and attract less attention.
Korean version has it. Locked to only that market for some reason though
@@BrightChocolate yea I agree, it’s hardly a must have. Nor does it really actually discourage criminals in the first place.
In my 25 years of owning 20+ cars there's never been an incident of scratching on any one of them. Maybe the problem is with some Tesla owners being a douchebag. And yeah nobody's going to be jealous of someone driving a Kia 🤣
EV6 is nice, but here in South Florida I've gone to several Kia Dealerships and no one has any. While Tesla is making about 60,000 Model Y's per month BEFORE opening Giga Texas AND Giga Berlin, which should DOUBLE Model Y production by the end of the year. Kia is only making about 6,000 EV6 per month. They have the same issue with the Ioniq 5, the Kona Electric, the Kia Niro, pretty much all their electric cars, so while it may be a "compelling alternative" if you can't get one, what's the point? At least with Tesla you can order a car and even though you have to wait 6 months you actually get it. At Kia, they won't even let me place an order. All they do is try to get me to buy a Gas Powered vehicle, of which I have ZERO interest.
Telsa only makes 4 models. So they can make 10s of thousands of one model. They also make only EVs. Kia makes many different models and different types of vehicles. The Kia EV6 is ramping up. It's only in its first year where Tesla's 3 and Y have been made for a few years now. It's going to take some time before Kia is building a lot more EV6s and they also have more EV models coming out, like the EV6 sedan.
@@benjaminsmith2287 But wasn't that the whole thing that everyone was saying... "Just wait until Legacy Auto gets in the game" and "They're going to SWAMP Tesla with cars" .... The Kona and Niro EV's have been out since 2018 and they started importing them to the USA in 2019. Each are STILL limited both in production AND the number of states they're available in. Here in South Florida we can't even get the Kona EV not even in a special order and as for the Niro EV, the dealerships WON'T take orders because they don't even know when is the next time they will get them... When they do get them customers get into a bidding war over them. NOBODY gets the stated "$289 a month lease" A Kia Dealer told me that he was so excited when the EV6 was announced, because he figured that it would end the electric car shortage at the place, but the EV6 has changed nothing they STILL don't make enough and most dealers only get 1 or 2 every couple of months. He told me he could literally sell 2 or 3 a day with all the demand, but of course there is no REAL supply. Let's face it, Hyundai doesn't want to ramp down their other cars to sell EV's because they have way too much money invested in that business. They bring in people interested in EV's and use that as a way to "Bait and Switch" customers into buying their ICE cars or a Hybrid.
In Australia still cannot order a Model Y and the wait on the Model 3 is 9-12 months currently.
@@zubinix hopefully now that the European gigafactory is open Tesla can redirect their exports from Europe to Australia and New Zealand, either way you slice it Tesla is not only making way more EVS than everyone else but they're also ramping production and expanding capacity faster than practically anyone else
I live in SW FL and you ha
ve call around . I had to drive to Tampa to pickup my GT line AWD but I did it and had to pay a 5k markup since it was in stock and a Matte Gray GT L
I have the house wired to connect to the car in the event of a power cut. I can switch over in five minutes or less and run the basic house needs for up to a week.
Interesting stuff. EV6 for me. One thing I've noticed that nobody's mentioning the Tesla turning circle or turning radius. It's really bad. We have mini roundabouts in the UK and a Tesla won't get round them without having to back up and do a three point turn or five point turn. I've seen it and the annoyed other drivers waiting for the Tesla to get round these mini roundabouts.
EV6 only has 0.5m smaller turning radius.
@@engineeringtheweirdguy2103 Agree, it's not much. Both bad.
@@Slarti2 unfortunately it comes with the territory. Both are AWD so steering is restricted, plus they both have a long wheel base to take full advantage of their size for the SUV class. Both of which together is a deadly combination for turning circle
Nice comparison, big win for the EV6 V2L capability! 🏡🔌⚡🚘
Thank you for sharing!
I'm pretty sure if you want to power something with the Tesla you can all you got to do is to get an inverter and there you go
Both very nice cars. I'm also 6ft tall and agree that the EV6 cabin feels cramped (a problem that I don't have in my ID3 which has plenty of headroom). But at the moment, neither of these are enticing me away from my ID3 Family Edition which cost less than half the price of these cars, has a full panoramic roof, reasonably good performance and a real world range of 180-250 miles (depending of conditions).
If i'm paying twice the price then I will only switch to a Model Y once they are using the next generation of battery tech and WLTP range is in excess of 400 miles. And as the EV6 feels too cramped I will wait for the EV7 and if that has improved headroom, a panoramic roof and upgraded battery tech with a 400+ miles range then i'm in. Otherwise i'm sticking with my ID3. My feeling is that that Tesla will get there first.
My EV6 in Austria has V2load with max. power outlet of 3,6kW. For me a 230V AC power supply and V2load is a MUST HAVE for a real BEV. Sorry Tesla.
Very honest review. Il take EV6 GT Lines RDW.
Really good review and summary.
Also nice to see John Cusack with painted nails reviewing cars now
I’m 6 feet tall and I have a Ev6 and I don’t feel that way 🤔 it’s so much space inside and the back seats too. Also I charge level 1 at night where I live and I get 6 to 8 miles an hour, not 2
Yea I’m 6 4 and I don’t have this issue unless I lean towards to side I mean I did notice I clipped it at first but once my seat was in the right spot it’s not an issue anymore daily driving the car.
You forgot to mention the speed at which the EV 6 can charge.
Not much faster in reality, and often at the cost of battery life, which is reflected in kia battery warranty being shorter than Teslas.
Just what we need another $60,000 car
For the Kia it is really 51,500 if you include the tax credit.
Tesla Robotaxi coming in 2023. , GAME OVER.
@@markplott4820 what happened to your tesla becoming an autonomous taxi and therefore an appreciating asset, in 2021? :-P
@@USUG0 - actually the USED value on ALL Tesla have gone up, without Robotaxi, TESLA is launching Robotaxi in 2023 with Single Body casting, and TESLA is launching FSD wide beta before year end.
@@markplott4820 it's the value of most used cars that has gone up because of the market situation right now.
Both are the best… but Kia pls give all the modes Tesla has… you can do it.
Of course they cannot do it. If they could they would have.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 they can .. they wanted to do it differently… now in future updates they will.
@@Reddylion you are delusional. It is not as easy as it seems. The best coding talent is at Tesla. The KIA will not allow you to pre condition your car before charging. They said they will fix that by the middle of the year. No over the air software update. KIA as years behind Tesla and everybody who is not paid to tell you otherwise will confirm that.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 stop spreading lies or half baked information. people who don’t research will fall for your lie and assume it’s correct about battery conditioning and over the air updates etc the fact is there is battery conditioning present now in modern Niro ev aswell as ev6, they always had OTA updates. ua-cam.com/video/7eXW7YVvZXU/v-deo.html
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 actually, the precondition update was released late last year.
By your logic, that also means that Tesla is not capable of all the features the EV6 has that Teslas do not. Like an instrument panel (imagine having one of those in a car!), or a heads up display (so the driver is actually looking at the road), Carplay and Android Auto, 360° camera, actual buttons to control common features (so you dont have to buy special gloves just to drive your car), a sunroof that opens with a shade (so you aren't constantly baking under the sun), cooled ventilated seats (a common feature on cars much cheaper than a Tesla), a comfortable ride (though, why would people want to be comfortable in their car?), vehicle to load capability, 800v charging, decent build quality, driver assistance systems that are not constantly giving false alerts (phantom braking), and styling that is interesting.
If Tesla were capable of doing these things, they would have. So they must be completely incapable.
Of course, I don't really believe that. I'm just pointing out how flawed your argument is. Tesla is absolutely capable and so is Kia.
I have the EV6 and love it except for the lack of head space due to the sunroof. Wish I would have went with the model Y for that reason alone.
Same!!
Test drove both. Didn’t like the way Tesla is set up and with the lack of buttons etc it’s not worth the huge price difference.
I love and rather the Kia ev6 over the Tesla model y by far .its a more beautiful looking car by far in and out. Only thing the Tesla model y has over it is range and alittle bit more better charging when it comes to fast charge. The Kia drives better and handles better too by far
Technically the model Y handles better. It did significantly better in the moose test for stability and handling than the EV6. The model Y is also a full time AWD, whilst the EV6 AWD variants switch to RWD at speeds over 40 km/h. It’s also thanks to teslas stiffer sportier suspension for the handling too which has the drawback of being less comfortable.
Also should point out that the Tesla has a longer battery warranty than the Kia and doesn’t require any servicing like the Kia does
Whilst the model Y is more sluggish than the EV6, I don’t necessarily think the Tesla is so behind in general. Long term, yes, Tesla will be overtaken by the larger innovation and rapid pace in China and even South Korea; but at least for right now Tesla has a good following that could hold out for several years.
I’m 6’1 and I don’t have the sunroof on mine and have plenty of head room.
I'm just glad tesla finally has competition now which will lower EV prices.
Will it?
I doubt it lower prices
From what I hear now everyone is competing for the same limited battery resources, driving prices up. Until battery tech improves and resources increase I’m afraid EV production will be severely limited. And demand for them is only going up
Best convince is you can take that Kia to any dealer for service
Yeah that's true but still your car going to be in service for about a week or two so what's the f****** point
You do realise Tesla doesn’t require any regular servicing like the Kia does right?
When you factor in the dealer mark ups, multiple issues with the HVAC and audio for the EV6 no dedicated charging network, no over the air updates no at home repairs and terrible Kia dealers, I would still get a Tesla.
There’s no dealer mark ups for the ev6 if you order directly from the manufacturer. Similar model to Tesla, ironically.
@@LoveStrangeDr Hahaha not where I live. Dealership here are marking them 10k. Either way I ended up getting a Model Y. I love the dedicated charging network, OTA's, in home service 250kw charging. All stuff the Kia doesen't have or even offer.
@@RezandJen That's great! Both cars have pros and cons but I believe EV6 charges faster. Anyhow, congrats on your buy and no need to try to defend your purchase!
@@LoveStrangeDr how can you order direct? the website says to contact dealer, then you run into the mark up. tesla has never had a markup
@@peaaye1890 varies by state.
No optional ‘sunroof’ on a $60,000 car?
Telling that the how do they drive part was10 seconds at the end.
Forgive me, Tesla fans, but I think the Model Y looks like a misshapen blob. We've ordered an EV6, in part because of the horizontal, side-by-side screens - as opposed to the "iPad" of Teslas and the Mach-e.
I don't get why people saying Tesla's are ugly look at the ev6 back that s*** ugly as f*** now the front looks decent same thing with a Tesla I mean the back of the Tesla looks f****** amazing the front of the Tesla people saying look ugly like a egg to me I think the Tesla way better than the ev6 by far
Come on Acura and Honda, your so behind the competition.
how are all car reviewers over 6 feet tall? Something doesn't add up lol
I was thinking the same thing! Although, to be fair - there are a few 5' 6" reviewers out there (ie. Sofan from Redline Reviews, Yuri from The Straight Pipes come to mind). But yeah, overwhelmingly 6' plus.
What about ride comfort and road noise
He covered ride comfort
I owned a Tesla Model 3 Dual motor and traded it in for EV6 GT line and it rides miles better than a Tesla. Quieter, smoother and overall more comfortable. Not as quick but better brakes and more Regen settings with paddle shifters and easy to change drive modes from steering wheel vs a damn menu on screen
Level 1 charging at least gives you 5 mi per hour
Ev6 won
Disappointed Bro while you had both Great EVs you did not do a 60mph performance test of some kind; or a head-to-head high-speed test.
Hey Ricky! Thanks for watching. We did take these EVs to the drag strip and put them through a lot more testing, you can check that out here: ua-cam.com/video/3olBvdpMlbs/v-deo.html
Having recently retired, I am starting to consider downsizing from my 2015 model S, which has been a fantastic car. The EV6 seemed to tick a lot of boxes for me; Significantly cheaper than model Y, comparable performance in actual driving to my "old" model S, head-up display I still miss from my previous 5 series, Android auto compatibility, fast charging and it looks great.
But I'm 6' tall and I really don't like my head being that high in the car. So it's off the list.
Model Y significantly cheaper now with tax credit
Honestly who wants everything buried under menus on a screen when you should be able to just reach for a button or knob.
Who wants a dedicated button for adjusting your side view mirrors taking up space when you’ll only ever touch them once the entire time you own the car?
Are you worried about a few inches on your door pillar being occupied? You're acting like that space is actually being used in a tesla thanks to it not having those buttons.
Anyways that's not even what I was talking about, I'm referring to buttons you actually use every time you get in a car. Like your volume, climate controls, sunroof, windows, etc. Not sure why you are strawmanning my point. I'll assume Musk fan-boy though.
@@engineeringtheweirdguy2103
Ev6 is much better.
The big letdown on the EV6 is the lack of a rear window wiper.
Tesla haze a very firm sports car ride Kia has a much softer cruising ride
Tesla is perfecto for american drivers.Easy to buy/lease/loan,easy to charge
Tesla doesn't make basic auto's.
but can the kia do burnouts?
That is a very awkward look, a Kia charging a Tesla
I am trying to choose and Kia car is much prettier.
I love your blue fingernails!
So can somone make an affordable EV?
Check out the Kia EV3 coming out this year.
EV6 us over 30K cheaper than the model Y
Not anymore in most places. Even here in Australia the Tesla model Y is significantly cheaper than the EV6
The Tesla body is so ordinary :(
A square box on wheels. Hard pass.
No dog mode on ev6.
Couldn’t care less, I have a cat.
@@xdude57 😂
$60k for a Kia badge is hard to stomach. Especially in my neighborhood that has more Tesla X and S than anything.
You care what your neighbor thinks about what you drive?
@@JamaicanMeCrazy 👍
You sound a little insecure..
This makes me laugh. I drive an ev6 first edition and I regularly get double back stares, questions, and compliments about it. I have even caught people taking pics of it parked. For reference I do live in LA where every third car is a Tesla. People stop caring about the badge when they look past it at the actual car
@@danielp2673 same here i got pulled over by a cop all he talked about was my ev6
How can you compare EV6 with that ugly fridge. Ev6 beats any Tesla in every aspect from looks to quality etc.. Damn I never owned more crapier car then Tesla it’s like cheapest Chinese plastics and ugly interior. And EV6 is like porche of EV’s
Model 3 and Y are not fun :) horrible cars to drive
Weird, everyone who drives my Tesla says the opposite. Infact they have a term for it. Called “the Tesla smile” or “the Tesla giggle” it’s weird to have a term for enjoying the feel of driving a car when they are not enjoyable to drive. Wouldn’t you think?
tesla model y is the best.
*LOL imagine paying 60k for a KIA!*
worth every penny.
Well it was voted car of the year 2022, so probably worth it
Imagine paying 60k for a large, spacious, comfortable, well made, well designed, highly specced, high performance, technologically advanced car.
Look under the hood, prince
The Model Y is just ugly. Looks like a Dodge Neon.
2013 Volt still the best EV!!!
...from 2013.
I went to check out kia Ev.. sorry but Tesla has so much to over. Space, phone connection/control..
I'm so tired of dealership markups.. car MSRP $52,000 PLUS $9000 for dealership pockets. I mostly will never buy from dealership again because of their dishonesty.
I get it but you get damn 7500 back from Tax rebate and Kia is much cheaper and has Android auto and Apple car play. EV6 has same interior space possibly more. Cargo space, yes the Y has more but how much you really need.
@@kkgolf5371not any more. teslas now much cheaper than the EV6. Also you have to plug your phone in to the car to get android auto or car play so you can stream your music. You can stream your music in the Tesla even without your phone! So no plugging it in with a physical cable every time you enter the car.
And yes the Y has significantly more boot and frunk space. But it also has objectively more interior space with higher head rooms and the drivers seats being off the floor meaning you can stretch your legs out straight under the seat infront, the EV6 can’t do that. Although it is true that both cars have roughly the same amount of knee room. But that’s not the only factor for passenger space.
I test drove this and really considered it over a Tesla. Man was I disappointed. A Tesla is like a street legal Go Kart and it's as much fun as that sounds. The KIA is just plain boring to drive. To fun at all. It is not nimble and it s not dynamic at all. The software is outdated and the car does not have any charging planning. Can you imagine that? An EV that doesn't tell you where to charge? Jlro it has a very small trunk in comparison. And in the Winter it has the worst charge speed of all the Evs. That's why it's called EV 6. You can only really drive it 6 months of the year. With all the paid reviews people have no idea how bad this car really is. I was shocked at myself for even considering it for one second.
And yet it was awarded the car of the year award 2022. Also reviews are all saying it is a great car. You mean all channels are dirty, including the car of the year comitee? I wouldn't think so.
@@mackan7086 of course they are. Don't you get it? Who pays the bills? The advertisers. Who spends nothing on advertising and everything on r&d? Tesla. I also fell for the fake reviews until I drove it myself. What a disappointing and eye opening experience.
@@whynotstartusingyourbrain8726 "of course they are"...hahaha conspirational much?
I can't win this discussion when all logic is set aside 🤯, I'm out
@@mackan7086 it's so funny hearing stupid people talking about logic. That is the logic. KIA pays for advertising on TV channels. Of course the reviews on these channels are positive. Tesla doesn't pay for advertisment. Thus they are not even mentioned in car of the year reports. It's not rocket science, man. Just use your brain.
Another fan boy. i own ev6 its far from boring 0 to 60 in 4.4 seconds every pull
KIA EV6 is Trash , but its Better than Muck-e, Bolt, Leaf mx-30 and bZ4X.
How is it trash?
You have lost the plot.
Compared to a Tesla fan boy Plaid who paid 155k yes it is. Loser