Best Age to Start Steroids? Ron Harris of Muscular Development Interview
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- What’s the best age to start steroids? Of course I never give a blessing to using steroids, and neither does my guest today, Ron Harris of Muscular Development! In this video we talk about Ron’s history, when he started T and steroids, and his experience with them. And we do answer the question: if you’re going to use steroids against medical advice, should you wait until a certain age?
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TABLE OF CONTENTS:
00:00 - Intro
01:09 - What age did you start T?
04:17 - Ron’s History
05:44 - How did you make that step?
08:18 - The shame of it all and hiding it
15:37 - Blast and Cruise
18:38 - What age could someone start?
22:11 - Genetics
27:03 - Very few walk away from T
30:06 - Closing
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Thank you for this interview it was great!!
Thanks guys for your insight
Been training for over 20 years. Been on TRT since 2021. I'm 46 now and I want to start Anavar for a cycle 4 weeks.
Always look forward to your show
I'm 59 and lifted natural on and off until this year. Started trt at 200 mg per week microdosing daily along with 8 IU of HCG daily. It has really changed my life and my workouts. Great strength and mass gains and significant fat loss. I'm planning on adding anavar 10 mg per day. I'll never use dianabol or anadrol, too risky.
Very smart to inject daily👍👍
You're on enanthate or propionate? (Or cyp?)
This was some great discussion
lifted natty for 27 years. Started using steroids in all dose ranges and compounds at 47. I am 58 an ZERO, and I mean ZERO bad effects. It has improved every aspect of my life,from writing,personal presentation,interpersonal relationships,and,of course,lifting . For me,being natty most of my life gave me a contrasting perspective from my current condition.
Good discussion. I'd dispute the idea that the guys back in the day waited longer before going on... Arnold was eating Dbol for breakfast at aged 15 or something mental. Imagine all the top guys have been on from a pretty early age regardless of the era.
Great show doc👍
Training natural sucks once you’ve juiced. It’s the way it is. Been on them for 20 years.
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if you cycle off decently chances are good you bounce back... just get some enclomiphene and run a proper PCT
@@no0kieNRW Cycling sux and is an outdated practice. Blast & cruise.
@@riggs9688 Blast and cruise is honestly kind of outdated at this point. There's no evidence to show androgen receptors down regulate. Low blast for most of the year is less damaging as long as you don't get burned out from the work.
@@konev13thebeastI see what you’re saying and agree but I don’t cruise because of down regulation of receptors. I cruise to give the body a break basically at a TRT dose.
nice interview, thanks!
After you have kids and don’t need sperm.
I LOVE ANABOLIC DOC!
I'm 59 now and have just started 10 weeks ago.
I'm 54 started TRT over a year now, did steroids from the age of 19 to 22. Held most of my gains through the years and really did well when I went on TRT. Big difference.
I'm 52 and never did anything best bench 405 for 4 and now I'm older 315 is heavy for me things were out .
I started TRT 6 months ago at the age of 59 i have only ever done steroids once when i was 26 and i had a bad reaction "Roid Rage" before it had a name, scared me and my wife so i trained drug free for 33 years! but 6 months ago i saw my strength dropping, felt soft and started gaining fat which then led to feeling depressed. it was a tough decision because i have preached no steroids to so many people over the years but the best thing i have ever done, things going well so far just keep getting bloodwork done to make sure i am high normal on my test and nothing above that, i still train 5/6 times a week ......hopefully for many more years to come!
@@markgarner7016 Excellent! Infact after a few months on TRT my blood work improved! Only regret is that I should of started TRT a few years ago.
No one says this to 14 y/o girl who takes the pill wich is the same shit really
I'm 46 soon 47, I went to the doctor he took a testosterone blood test it came out very low. He said I could take an andro supplement which is a pro hormone. It did the trick.
Fantastic topic. I am obsessed with strength, but never competed. Never touched a single drug until the age of 44. I'm 46 now. I'm always less then 190lbs and 5'9. I could 1 rep max 315 in the bench, rep squat 405 a few times, and deadlift about 440 lbs.
I am health conscious, so decided to cycle test at 350mg a week, and Anavar at 50mg per day. The most safe cycle out there.
I'm on my 7th cycle. I can now squat over 500, deadlift 600 ish, and bench 340. My bench has always been weak for me.
But, I feel really good, and my weight is 180lbs. My body is basically rocked up hard. I think that spending 25 years as a natural strength athlete has made my joints and bones strong. Strong enough so that I have remained injury free after starting my first cycle. I think that's important and most people fail to understand that.
Most guys cycle young and get to string to fast. Their bones and joints are week. So in my experience, age 44 and up is the best age, but with a lifetime of pounding the weights to hit your genetic maximum. At age 46, I'm crazy strong for my size, and I'm getting stronger every week
What do you mean by get to string too fast?
Please as I'm getting on
@@justsomeguy1671 It means that I have big fingers and its hard to type on a phone. By the way, you could have asked your Mom that same question. She knows all about my fat fingers.
@@poolman20001 hahah ok strong is what you meant.
I feel a little bad if all you can get is my 74 year old mom but hey desperate tines i guess lol
How about never. You'll live a far better life.
Respect 💯 🙏
Agree
Agreed- I encourage people to stay clean if health and longevity are a top priority
im not sure but i think i started at 28 years old , on and off gear for a few years then came off for 8 years , until recently . im now 41 , looked at a photo of myself in january 2015 after 6 months off and a photo from end of march 2015 ... running a 600mg total mix between test tren and masteron , genuinly shocked at how much muscle i gained in 2 months back then ! Now as of 4 days ago ive gone back on but only sustanon as i worry if i use tren again il go crazy and become moody . at 194lbs and 5ft8 i want a normal life outside of gym , i refuse to give my life to bodybuilding but want to be more like my younger self and a leaner more balanced shape
I just turned 55, I started getting serious about lifting after a serious motorcycle accident in my mid 40s. I’m currently on HGH, Test, Deca - my personal favorite, Tren, Bolderone, sometimes Winstrol - I personally feel great, no real sides besides sleep with Tren,, I’m 6”3 260lbs and I feel strong, I don’t think steroids are as bad as people think. I stay away from insulin, I don’t drink or do recreational drugs.
Are you competing?
I’m 57, worked out since I was 15 and you would never know it looking at me.
I’ve been on TRT for a year, but would like to add cycles of steroids.
From watching these videos I think Anavar is a good starter.
My question is where do I get steroids?
Are they still illegal?
I really don’t know shit about how to acquire them
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No, I’m pretty much just a meathead, I will say the HGH is great for recovery, I try to lift 5 days a week
@@seanokellan9552 So, and I mean no disrespect, why on earth, at your age, are you running all of this? It just sounds like you're asking for problems. Not that it is any of my business but shit man... that's a lot of gear for a guy half your age.
I got on trt at 29 with a test level of 214... maybe that wasnt ridiculously low but i saw it as a door to feeling great vs feeling tired all the time. It work for sure. I had also been training for 11 years and maxed out my natural gains. Trt helped add another 10-13 pounds of muslce also.
214 is below average in my country, I was at 419 and startet my first circle 250mg e5d
Thx guys. I am 40 and going on trt +100mg deca in few weeks. maybe do some mild cycles, added to trt. My health is good, just the test dropped to 300
Can we please have a video on ipamorelin/CJC1295 doc?
there is no such thing, if you're always tired, and your sex drive is low and you do the bloodwork and your test is low- that's the time - simple
The best time to do steroids is after age 40 young guys you are most definitely fucking with your health. If you do it younger it is when you are older that you need to start trt replacement and perhaps mild steroid blasts. I am 62 and I look great, and I feel great prior to that. I was able to do 400 pound benchpress naturally. I had enough of my own natural testosterone and I look great. Now it's an older it's a blessing is the fountain of youth for an older man, but it's not for young people.
I'm 72 years old and I'm getting TRT. At this point I have decided to stack the TRT with some cycles of oral Anavar. I will be on the TRT till the end so I want to get some muscle before my end time comes. I like the make up for Anavar unless you can Advise something for a stack cycle. Thanks for you doing what you do.
Anavar is great, but you just need to use low doses and check your labs frequently as it takes a toll on your lipids and liver values.
I was 33 (currently 44) when I first started. Glad I waited since I have very good genetics (6' 6" and Division 1, Power 5 Conference athlete) so I didn't need them prior. Between 33-42 I did 2 larger cycles per year. I truly wish I hadn't done 2 cycles per year, that was way too much. Now I do one medium, 12-14-week cycle (400 Test combined with 300 NPP or 300 DHB or 50 Anavar) and the rest of the year I do a TRT dose of 180-210 Test.
Waiting until my natural numbers come down to make the decision, still have some progress to make naturally for sure.
(Previd comment)
I am 20 years old working the night shifts which has led to numerous problems and I see as not something I want to undergo in my twenties. My friend has prescribed t-enanthate and one day I said fu.. it. Currently I take 50mg between each 5days, quite stupid of me not doing my bloodwork and such but I am trying to be as educated as possible and plan on getting my bloodwork. I would say my genetics would is able to handle side effects nicely. I feel great, my head is more in sync and I am able to do more and push more in the way I want to go. There is a lot of mixed information and misinformation on the web and some I am not able to understand. At this point I enjoy the quality of life TRT is giving me but I would like clearity on if I had to stop abruptly and the affects on my body/ fertility and if I could regain full endegenous testosterone production.
What levels of test do people pin for trt id be interested to know, i am 47 and only try to take a minimal dose 0.5ml of test e 250 twice weekly
I think early 30's is your prime to intro gear... & then definitely get off by 40.. I speak from experience 💯 However, every one & every person has different genetics and family medical history's. 🙏
At 65 I’m taking one long anavar cycle into the sunset 🌅
Im 33. I want to try anavar.
@@barppoots4378 well you’ll be on trt and it’ll f up your fertility but you can fix it with hcg. Never take anavar or any steroid without test.
@@bryanutility9609 respect 🙏
@@barppoots4378 That's a strong one but a good one..
Another decent interview but as always the most important thing is always left out how much did you take? How many different compounds? 1,000 interviews and no one wants to touch the subject so then why have interviews
Ron harris is great
Great convo! Although I'll *NEVER* understand the whole _my wife doesn't know_ thing....ffs it's YOUR WIFE ! The one and only true associate in your family business, your accomplice and partner in crime. I'm on gear and *she's the one injecting me* ...! Whether I land a deal, fuck it up, scratch the car, fuck another chick...you name it, she fucking knows! If (god forbid) I had to kill someone she would be the first to know and cover for me. What's wrong w/ those fake ass on-the-surface superficial relationships? (A common occurence in the US, as I've come to realize over the years) 🤔
I'm a natural powerlifter. I've been training for 17 years. 190 lbs I think I'll stay where I'm at. I'm too scared to try it I'll be honest
40 years old
when the doc says *steroids* he means doses like 400mg a week and more right? Therapy means 200mg and under (unless its hardcore drugs like Tren)
No. When he says steroids he's talking about substances, you are talking about dosage.
I started at 35
Thats when you should start: after you have trained naturally for years, and closer to 30 than 15.
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I am 40 for last 2 years doing natural workout and gined good muscles....wanna do first cycle. But my lipid is Cholesterol 240/ triglycerides 300 can go for it??? Or have to get lipids in control....??? Plz advise.... for lipids also
You’re life is more important then anything
Don’t do it
Over plus 3 times the amount on triglycerides
Way to risky….
Good luck
I will be 55 this month. I have been working out for 35years constantly. My blood work is good. Test at 300. I do not feel pumps .. feeling tired. May be time..haha
When you hit that low don't mess around, I messed around and started to suffer many different problems from low testosterone. Low testosterone gone for to long can take you down.
Started at age 20, ran them on and off and also been able to get the mrs pregnant, started at low doses used most compounds except for tren and superdrol but have them there for future use 👍
Great show and relevant for me as I am 57 and unsure when I should start TRT too.
Question: For measurements, say 200mg, what’s the equivalent on a syringe? Would that be .2ml?
Depends on concentration. 100mg/ml would mean 2ml. 200mg/ml would mean 1ml.
It's not a magical thing you have to train you ass off and have you diet in check and be over 30 IMO .
Ron had a good physique I don’t care what anyone says 💪
Appreciate that!
I'd say earliest should be 55 for males. By that I just mean test. For qol primarily.
Got on trt at 42. I can say I did max my potential. 5-6 175 best squat was 425×3 bench 385. Don't do deadliest, I use trap bar. .5ml every 5 days. Less is best. Feeling fucking phenomenal. Last blood work was 924 t level on due date for next shot. 522 was my levels when I started but I felt depressed, stress killed my libido.
Very true, .5 is the sweet spot for me too
I think whatever age you are no longer able to keep yourself active it's time for trt and small amounts of roids
Anyone that can tell me why i get headache and chest cramps from only 100 mg a week?
On 100 mg a week my test is only 350....
Have you been monitoring your blood pressure? Have you had a stress test? ECG?
@@snuffcore9686 yes did work ekg and it was good. I also use BP meds
@@felixgir1 Have you had a CBC? High blood levels can produce some of these effects.
So you weren't experiencing any of these things until you began using Test? Is your Test from a pharmacy or is it UGL? Is a doctor monitoring your use? The thing about how your chest is feeling is cause for concern.
@@snuffcore9686 yes my blood cell, hemogoblin went from 14.7 to 16.2 and is stable. I got headache, nosebleed, feeling like shit. Started bp meds, and things got better.
I now use 100 mg a week and my test is around 250-300 total... Same as I was before trt. So 100 mg has no effect on me.
I bumped up to 300 mg a week in 2 shots. And my test was only at 650. Blood work was good, but I felt so shit.... I wonder if I want to just stop trt.
I buy test from my cousin. Elephant pharmacy. Tried both enathat and cypionate 250...
@@snuffcore9686 all these things came with trt. Before trt i had some arytmia. But i train weights 4 tines a week and runs 2 times a week
61 looking for reliable source
at my gym everyone at the roids including all the woman lol.... except me hahahha
Stay natty for as long as you can. I am 31, still making thick juicy gains. You have plenty of time before the T drops to woman levels (40+ years old)
well what you waiting for?
I would say when you've at least had 5 years experience lifting where you've spent at least 14+ hours a week on fitness. If you're only spending an hour a day then fitness clearly isn't important enough to you to justify the health sacrifice.
Never they'll destroy your life like it did mine
Never, each time you play Russian roulette and no matter how aaa grade level they are and you take many blood test, it’s still playing Russian roulette. If you don’t compete do not take them ever
So why aren't you guys in shape now?
I'm turning 40 next week, I wonna do TRT. What do you guys think?
I’m 41, just starting. Got my first dose arriving tomorrow.
Depends what your levels are like. Mine was down at 7 nmols worst case, 9 best case. I think you’d need to understand your levels before you make the decision if it is TRT and not for muscular physique
Always get your blood work done before starting TRT.
I just started 4 weeks ago. Blood work and keep a eye on you BP.
@@davecurwen5684 thanks guys!
Not enough info to answer the question.
If you want to do them, get started. You're gonna start anyone. Blast off
12 is fine
To grow shreded musculinity :)
What a silly question who wants to take steroids its a joke
Lol the guy just lie natural at 19 with that physique lol come on
45 when I started feel awesome