Pilicast: here is an extremely niché trick you can use to your advantage in a dogfight. Most WT players: uhm what is energy fighting? What do you mean I shouldn't just always hold S?
As a prior F-15 aircraft armament, I think it's slightly under 6 feet of offset, because whenever we had to install it (which absolutely sucks btw), I'd be laying from about where the drum is to about where the gun is to tension the feed, and I'm 5'10. great vid though!
@@Pilicast Yeah, I tried going through my Career Development Course study guide once again to see if I could find it, but it didn’t really say. Boresighting that gun though after a reinstall was a b*tch and a half. They developed a new easier method that uses a laser, but we weren’t authorized to use it yet so we had to use a scope that we put down the barrel, a piece of paper, a huge board, and a whole lot of time adjusting mounting brackets.
@@Pilicast very unrelated to this comment section but I must know, did you abandon your sparta aircraft sound mod for war thunder, or will it be updated, because it's one hell of a sound mod to let go to waste
just seeing massive chunks of metal falling with a massive flame coming from one end while firing a gun to fall in a certain way to kill another chunk of metal in the sky is quite the trick, I am impressed
nobody uses it because in real life, unlike Warthunder, the cannon does not provide enough recoil to perform a maneuver. Besides, an airplane has far too little ammunition to afford to shoot around wildly. an f15 has enough ammunition for 15 seconds of continuous fire...
Honestly never thought that the gun firing would have that much impact on the plane in the air. I guess you dont really notice it in the fast pace games of top tier. Neat to see that a 20mm cannon firing can give the F-15 equally crazy turns like the yak141.
This seems like the type of maneuver that is gonna be forgotten by almost everyone who knows about it up until they're actually in an "unwinnable" dogfight and remember their plane can do it.
fun fact you can use some custom loadouts and gunpods to do pull this off and have a far more extreme effect (also gun pods generally have more ammo and are farther off center)
Doom Eternal music for an F-15 is extremely fitting. I always viewed Doom Slayer as an F-15, if he were a jet. Not to mention the heavily synthed chainsaw is perfect for cannon.
An informative video that isn't stretched to an hour of background info??? I didn't think this was possible with modern youtube... But yeah, outstanding stuff mate!
this also work for props. when one side is jammed and the other isnt, it will work. also with custom setups the ju-87 can gun yaw with one side using 37mm and the other using bombs and misc
The Flanker really doesnt need it with how powerful the engines are. If you're in a stall fight, keep full 110% WEP and use full or realistic controls to guide the gun in. Given that needs practice too, but it's a very strong plane. Waiting for the Su-30SM, so I can thrust vector my way into ez SL gain.
here's hoping the next amraams patch decreases the 16v16 player matches so we can see these cool techniques! there's just no way to do this outside of custom battles as long as missile spamming is around and big furballs in the middle of the map ruining 1v1s..
There is a very valid reason why nobody does this, both IRL and in WT. The speed regime where a "gun yaw" is even possible or remotely effective is so low, you are left vulnerable to air to air missiles. Plus with so little ammunition as you have with the Vulcan or comparative rotary autocannons, it is wasteful and just not worth it.
how do you turn youre plane that hard? My instructor doesent let me fo that. What are your key Bindings for this amazing movement?? Please, i need to know
Did you know that Russian aircraft's ballistic computer (MiG-29 & Su-27) takes care of firing the gun and all the pilot has to do is fly the aircraft to give the gun the highest probability of a hit?
The real F-16 kicks its rudder to the side in order to keep the gun on target. Important as without it strafing ground targets would be near impossible
Zero expertise answer, turning the plane on that axis pushes one wing to the front of the attack angle and turns the other wing into the trailing side, forcing one wing into a high drag spot and the other in a low drag spot.... I made that up just now.
Pilicast: here is an extremely niché trick you can use to your advantage in a dogfight.
Most WT players: uhm what is energy fighting? What do you mean I shouldn't just always hold S?
More like they don’t even know how to free look correctly Lmaoo
chuck their missiles around and then fly away without turning once
walvis
Lvl4s at top tier be like: how to shoot missile?
@@Icemanツyou shouldnt spin it like a radar?
Mom, can we have thrust vectoring ?
No, we have thrust vectoring at home.
Thrust vectoring at home :
This is must've been what john boyd book refer to "last ditch gun manuver"
😂😂
The Mustard of War Thunder. Insane quality, and we dont care about upload schedule
Facts
As an oxy subscriber, I can say, we don’t care about upload schedule.
Ye
@@carrott36 As a Technoblade subscriber, I can say that we don't care either.
Yes, couldn’t have said it better
I want to see a dogfight with every weird trick you've shown, basically planes spinning around in confusing stall maneuvers
ace combat
war thunder duels
@@mywholedarname ace combat moment
Ace combat
"I want to understand the enemy"
As a prior F-15 aircraft armament, I think it's slightly under 6 feet of offset, because whenever we had to install it (which absolutely sucks btw), I'd be laying from about where the drum is to about where the gun is to tension the feed, and I'm 5'10.
great vid though!
Nice! I couldn't find any helpful measurements online for the F-15.
@@Pilicast
Yeah, I tried going through my Career Development Course study guide once again to see if I could find it, but it didn’t really say.
Boresighting that gun though after a reinstall was a b*tch and a half. They developed a new easier method that uses a laser, but we weren’t authorized to use it yet so we had to use a scope that we put down the barrel, a piece of paper, a huge board, and a whole lot of time adjusting mounting brackets.
@@Pilicast very unrelated to this comment section but I must know, did you abandon your sparta aircraft sound mod for war thunder, or will it be updated, because it's one hell of a sound mod to let go to waste
just seeing massive chunks of metal falling with a massive flame coming from one end while firing a gun to fall in a certain way to kill another chunk of metal in the sky is quite the trick, I am impressed
The fact you timed the brrts with the doom music was absolutely amazing
Hahaahaha
WHY IS NO ONE TALKING ABOUT THE GUNS WITH THE DOOM MUSIC
FRRRR
That did sound good
“Did you do the trick?”
“Yes”
“What did it cost?”
“All my ammo”
I am afraid that even I spent all of my ammo I still cannot do the trick with a kill
@@tl3119 fr
Spend all the ammo just to get behind him and then BANZAI
Use A4 gun pod for yaw and default guns
laughing in 940 ammo F15 😂😂😂😂😂
Anyone else remember when the sagittario was added and the guns had so much recoil you could gun *pitch?*
Vickers hurricane too
Flanker players: “I can pull crazy AoA unlike any other fighter”
F-15 players: “same”
At the cost of all my ammo😭
holy shit high quality war thunder video
oh, i thought US mains are just trigger happy with large ammo pool but i guess they arent just mindlessly spraying around like taking a morning piss
Oh trust me they are, I doubt even 1% of us players even know or utilize this technique
@@blacklabel131WE SPEND TAX PAYER DOLLARS HERE!!!
this video is so fun to watch and actually has great cinematography, a nice break from normal War Thunder content. Thank you
Thank you!
Bro dropped the hardest f15 gun montage and thought we wouldn’t notice
Am i the only one who noticed that he used the vulcan sounds to sync the notes of the music at 2:11
Got me a bit excited
God the fucking montage of syncing a vulcan with DOOM music. Love it
i knew when that doom music kicked i was in for some shit.... well here i go to testing for hours untill its usable
This video reminded me that you can choose to carry a single left or right wing mounted 30mm cannon on the SAAB-105G. Might be worth a shot.
This is the first UA-cam video that has genuinely impressed me in years.
I'm honored :)
Dawg these videos are awesome. The presentation and pacing are so on point.
Appreciate it! :D
nobody uses it because in real life, unlike Warthunder, the cannon does not provide enough recoil to perform a maneuver. Besides, an airplane has far too little ammunition to afford to shoot around wildly. an f15 has enough ammunition for 15 seconds of continuous fire...
When I clicked on this video, I wasn't expecting this scale of quality. BRAVO!
Honestly one of the best new WT channels I’ve seen in a while keep it up!
Babe wake up, the War Thunder movie man is back
Good sim pilots casually doing these maneuvers without wasting ammo
Bc its ridiculous...
@xDerHunterHeli not always, some of these maneuvers do come in handy for a good overshoot.
Honestly never thought that the gun firing would have that much impact on the plane in the air. I guess you dont really notice it in the fast pace games of top tier. Neat to see that a 20mm cannon firing can give the F-15 equally crazy turns like the yak141.
You make War Thunder look so good visually.
This guy is so underrated, he needs to get more attention. I love your content so much man!
1:35 are we just gonna ignore this?
legend says the next ace combat game will borrow the dagor’s physics engine.
This seems like the type of maneuver that is gonna be forgotten by almost everyone who knows about it up until they're actually in an "unwinnable" dogfight and remember their plane can do it.
that edit had no right to go this hard
The music sycronisiation made me "ignite my afterburner"
@Pilicast were these filmed in AB or RB lobbies?
RB
fun fact you can use some custom loadouts and gunpods to do pull this off and have a far more extreme effect (also gun pods generally have more ammo and are farther off center)
Doom Eternal music for an F-15 is extremely fitting. I always viewed Doom Slayer as an F-15, if he were a jet. Not to mention the heavily synthed chainsaw is perfect for cannon.
An informative video that isn't stretched to an hour of background info??? I didn't think this was possible with modern youtube... But yeah, outstanding stuff mate!
The F-16 was fitted with the earliest version of the A-10’s Gatling gun. That’s why it’s so powerful
Love the use of doom music to demonstrate the power of the gun yaw
Jetpack joyride ah movement
this also work for props. when one side is jammed and the other isnt, it will work. also with custom setups the ju-87 can gun yaw with one side using 37mm and the other using bombs and misc
using cultist base is a goated choice of a song
I love the clips of the duelists comunity
The editing is f ING perfect
Imagine learning all of this just to get knocked out by a stray IR missile
your camera work is fantastic
I use my rudders on the P51A in the British tech tree to get a couple shots on target
At low speeds it’d the best control surface but you can’t beat rocket propulsion…
Jokes on you, I play Trailmakers. If I want, the entire *propulsion* system for my aircraft can be built out of guns, let alone half-axis yaw control.
It’s not super practical until your basically stalling, But it’s sick to know!
You just got a new sub. Great vid man!
Awesome, thank you!
I can't wait to show my flight lead this cool new trick during ACM training
I prefer the Kfir gun stall, you can do a complete 180 and launch missiles at enemies behind you
4:15 video, time spent editing: 3hour s minimum
As always, awesome video, here is my like
Hahaha 3 hours is a low estimate for my videos... But thanks! :)
The Flanker really doesnt need it with how powerful the engines are. If you're in a stall fight, keep full 110% WEP and use full or realistic controls to guide the gun in. Given that needs practice too, but it's a very strong plane.
Waiting for the Su-30SM, so I can thrust vector my way into ez SL gain.
Where we're going, we don't need roads... flaps, elevators or a rudder. We need more guns to steer with!
I'm... going to strap a load of miniguns to one half of the A-1H and see if I can make this work at 6.3!!!
including the mirage 2000/4000, the F-20 tigershark also has a symmetrical gun layout
That’s cool and I didn’t think that had a use if at all, btw are you using a sound mod for this and if so what mod? Or is it edited in?
Edited in.
the editing is really good on this video
here's hoping the next amraams patch decreases the 16v16 player matches so we can see these cool techniques! there's just no way to do this outside of custom battles as long as missile spamming is around and big furballs in the middle of the map ruining 1v1s..
There is a very valid reason why nobody does this, both IRL and in WT. The speed regime where a "gun yaw" is even possible or remotely effective is so low, you are left vulnerable to air to air missiles. Plus with so little ammunition as you have with the Vulcan or comparative rotary autocannons, it is wasteful and just not worth it.
In DCS, you can just use differential thrust save for gripen and the f16
thanks for not making a 15 minute video for a less than 5 minute topic!
Maybe we would use it if we ever had the chance to dogfight. The whole game has just become Fox 3 simulator.
Damn the ending… I couldn’t help but check out more 😂😂😂 I like that to the point great video and I don’t usually comment so that’s real😂😂
Side note, if you are floating around like this you are a juicy AAM target
bro devised the most devious way to run out of ammo faster
It's like IRL anime fight BS. If i saw it in the movie i would be like "yup, that's an asspull!"
When I saw the title I thought that it was the ability for the gun to rotate independently from the aircraft
With gun yaw. We can finally pull of proper ace combat manuevers lol
I'm always having a second additional gunpod on the Su-25 and I just used that in a dogfight with a very good MiG-21 pilot. 😂
how do you turn youre plane that hard? My instructor doesent let me fo that. What are your key Bindings for this amazing movement?? Please, i need to know
I bound switch controls mode to the caps lock button, so I can press it quickly and go into full-real.
I don't see a practical use for this in ARB unless it's literally down to a final 1v1 after the other 30 players have been wiped out.
"With the exception of the M2000, and the 4000, All fighter jets 12.0 and up have asymmetrical gun loadouts"
F-20: _"Look at me brother."_
Haha I realized that right after I uploaded..
@@Pilicast all good dude, even funnier to me because the F-20 is a black sheep of sorts now lmfao
1:53 how did he do this lol
you might be able to stick a single gun pod under the F4 phantom, i know you could do something like that with rocket pods
Amazing video ❤
I can't wait to use this tactic at the battle field 😃
3minutes later:
GOD I HATE THIS GAME!!!
so THATS why u were shooting ur gun so much when we mock-dogfought in flankers lol
Perhaps
This must've been what john boyd refer to "last ditch gun manuver" in his book XD
Probably not, the F-100 has a symmetrical layout in the nose of revolver cannons.
@@robertgaudet7407 i was joking haha
Ah yes, the classic we will we recoil as a method of travel.
The Eagle is simply the best. Including the best for gun yaw 🗣🗣🗣🦅🦅🦅
EAGLE OORAH!
Good luck dogfighting in war thunder as every player will just shoot a missile at you from 10km
imagine actually having any of these planes unlocked 😂😂 (im poor)
Been doing this for a year or so, its super useful in the 15. 14 cant really do it effectively (Like you need it with that insane yaw AOA)
Does this apply in dcs
Same question, this is so cool
Did you know that Russian aircraft's ballistic computer (MiG-29 & Su-27) takes care of firing the gun and all the pilot has to do is fly the aircraft to give the gun the highest probability of a hit?
Where did you get the tone that plays when you shoot down a plane?
I searched up "War Thunder kill sound" on youtube
What happens if you use differential thrust and gun yaw?
spin
@@Pilicast how much spin?
@@urifriling3223 flatspin :)
The real F-16 kicks its rudder to the side in order to keep the gun on target. Important as without it strafing ground targets would be near impossible
the demonstration section did not have to go so hard
How exactly does it induce a roll as well? I understand the rudder can but the force from the gun is obviously not the same as from the rudder.
Zero expertise answer, turning the plane on that axis pushes one wing to the front of the attack angle and turns the other wing into the trailing side, forcing one wing into a high drag spot and the other in a low drag spot....
I made that up just now.
Me in my Mirage 2000C-S5:
Quite literally the Gun-Fu of War Thunder
C’mon Maverick! Do some of that pilot shit!
I wonder how realistic this actually is
I swear to god if i ever reach top tier and the plane in front of me uses his cannon to drift and kill me im uninstalling
idea: use split throttle to help with the gun yaw
Would the f18 have gun pitch when it’s added then?