Linkin Park X Scientology Collaboration?! (New LP singer Emily Armstrong)
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Linkin Park has returned with a new album From Zero, World Tour, and new singer in Emily Armstrong. Now that the news is out, so is the news of Emily Armstrong’s ties with Scientology.
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“Linkin Park's decision to choose Emily Armstrong as their new co-vocalist has sparked both excitement and controversy among fans. The band's announcement of their upcoming album "From Zero" and world tour marks their return to the music scene after a seven-year hiatus following Chester Bennington's tragic passing. While Armstrong's powerful vocals have been praised, her alleged connections to the Church of Scientology have raised concerns within the Linkin Park community. Some fans have expressed unease over Armstrong's reported attendance at a Scientology event in 2013 and her alleged support for convicted felon Danny Masterson, a prominent Scientologist. This controversy has overshadowed the band's comeback for some, creating a complex situation where fans are torn between anticipation for new music and apprehension about the new singer's background.” (Perplexity)
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I Don't Care about her past and her religion cause that's personal especially her beliefs in life and your opinion I don't care about it too cause for some reason I don't know you and you don't know me either
I'm a Christian and I respect other religion so I don't hold my opinion on their Beliefs cause it's theirs
For me This is a celebration of Linkin Park's return to the music industry.
And look this is Hollywood. If these is a Bad Publicity for the band image it's not cause there is a motto in Hollywood there is no such thing of a Bad Publicity cause a Bad Publicity is a Good Publicity.
As for Ms. Armstrong that's her life and she earn it for herself.
And once again I don't really, really care much about it. But if you people are bother by it then you guys have a problem.
New LP is just as lame as old LP. They were always corny lame garbage.
@@doctorslayer2106 Her "religion" traffics women and children.
You support child trafficking.
Some Christian you are.
@@doctorslayer2106 You have a problem supporting human trafficking.
Emily is nothing but a dirty cult of Scientology member. They physically s-xually, emotionally and mentally abuse not only adults in their cult but also kids and I mean children and young teens. Plus she chose to support a convicted r-pist of several women Danny Masterson another Scientologist. She issued some kind of sorry statement that did not have his name in it nor no apology to the Jane Doe’s he r-ped. Her parents are also in the cult and work in the office of special affairs who harass and try to destroy the life of ex Scientologists who have escaped and speak out about this cult. Several lawsuits are now pending in court against this cult. UA-cam has at least 100 or more channels that speak about the abuses of this cult called SPTV. She ain’t got nothing coming unless she wants to leave the cult and speak out against them for all the horrific things they have done to members and especially the kids. She is no better than a child abuser herself because she knows about the abuse. She grew up in the cult and was abused terribly by the cult. So I hope she looses everything unless she leaves the cult and speaks out against them!
Anyone who’s trying to defend this as “her religious beliefs” they’re a cult not a religion, please look up the amount of horrible things Scientology has done. There’s mountains of evidence and ex members to prove that.
K but the same could be said about every religion. Plenty of people involved in every religion that are not involved in or accomplice to the MANY sec abuse scandals that each and every religion has had happen and tried to cover up.
The Scientology is not the problem.
The fact that as a scientologist she may have willingly supported a rapist is.
@@rashira9610 please show me another “religion” that has a policy like the “fair game policy”, or another religion that takes 90% of your income?
Most of the traits Scientology has are more closely related to cults rather than religious beliefs or values! Please do your research before opening your putrid mouth.
There are no valid religious beliefs.
Scientology is the problem
@@rashira9610nope being a cult member of Scientology is the problem. Emily is nothing but a dirty cult of Scientology member. They physically s-xually, emotionally and mentally abuse not only adults in their cult but also kids and I mean children and young teens. Plus she chose to support a convicted r-pist of several women Danny Masterson r-ped She issued some kind of sorry statement that did not have his name in it nor no apology to the Jane Doe’s he r-ped. Her parents are also in the cult and work in the office of special affairs who harass and try to destroy the life of ex Scientologists who have escaped and speak out about this cult. Several lawsuits are now pending in court against this cult. UA-cam has at least 100 or more channels that speak about the abuses of this cult called SPTV. She ain’t got nothing coming unless she wants to leave the cult and speak out against them for all the horrific things they have done to members and especially the kids. She is no better than a child abuser herself because she knows about the abuse. She grew up in the cult and was abused terribly by the cult. So I hope she looses everything unless she leaves the cult and speaks out against them!
In the words of Linkin Park, I wanna know the truth instead of wondering why. I wanna know the answers. No more lies.
💀💀💀
That's from the song "runaway", I'm pretty sure
From hybrid theory
@@PIZZAdayisbackyep
Guilty by association, you point the finger at me again
@@christianhatch7842 ok [certain cult] fan.
Initially, I was just hoping that Armstrong would make a statement stating that she doesn't believe in Scientology anymore and no longer stands by her friendship with Danny Masterson, but what you said about how Scientology has a history of stalking and... WORSE things to people absolutely muddies things. And this is all a massive shame because I think Emily is a PERFECT fit for Linkin Park.
I don't know how this will get resolved but all I can do is hope for the best at this point.
EDIT: she has since come out saying she does not support Masterson.
Scientology should be labeled as a terrorist organisation.
Real
I mean their first song together is very obviously about leaving a cult and being hurt by all the lies they told you. Considering what we are talking about here I don't think she can address it at all. It could be dangerous for the entire band
I mean if the cult is as bad as it seems I don’t think she can just be like yeah guys I’m out.
It's even made worse that she's filling the slot of Chester, who was a victim of sexual abuse, himself. I feel like the guys in the band are better at reading a room than this usually.
Performance wise I think Emily Armstrong makes for a good choice in carrying Linkin Park to a new era but her connections to Scientology is not to be taken lightly. If Emily is still a scientologist, that makes her inclusion a spit in the face to not only every fan who has suffered abuse in their lives but especially to Chester himself, and everyone still in Linkin Park would be a knowing enabler.
The alternative is also messy; if she's an ex-scientologist then she'd be in very credible danger since Scientologists are well known for targeting former members, especially public-facing ones. It wouldn't surprise me if she and the band want to remain silent to protect her, but this is not an issue that should be ignored.
As much as I'd love for a new Linkin Park era, I'm not comfortable supporting them until we get more details.
Well I believe she grew up with it, so kinda hard to break that spell.
@@rutgerhauser2377 my concern isn't just about her associations but about her actions. It’s one thing to be born into Scientology and privately struggle with it, but it's another to actively show up in support of someone convicted of such serious crimes and participate in intimidating the victims. Her non-apology, with its ambiguous phrasing, suggests a lack of accountability, which is especially troubling given the context of her role in a band that has stood for openness about trauma and mental health.
How many more SA victims has she and will she harass for her OSA parents and the cult?
I know
I wanna support Linkin park but... It feels so wrong for some reason to me...
Scientology is notoriously disbelieving of mental illness.
Chester suffered from mental health issues and trauma and took his own life.
Putting a non-ex Scientologist in the band to sing his lyrics is shitting on his memory and inflicting emotional assault against us fans who feel that Linkin Park understands us.
Especially since Mike Shinoda is the primary lyricist.
I love the idea of a female joining LP and enjoyed Emily's performance. This needs to be addressed ASAP.
Absolutely. I am horrified.
Non-ex??? Wtf are you talking about? You mean active Scientologist?
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An apology from her will not be enough. She needs to be an ex-scientologist. They are antithetical to everything Chester went through and supported. For her to sing the songs he put so much emotion in is heart breaking.
Linkin Park didn't understand nor write those lyrics. Chester did. There is your answer.
Her supporting Danny Masterson is vile considering Chester’s past
She made a post saying she doesn’t support him after he was found guilty
@@yogabbagabba2202She was still following him in Instagram today. Not to mention her Scientology bs. LP died with Chester. Kudos to the drummer from stepping away. Respect
@@yogabbagabba2202but she doesn’t regret supporting him or intimidating his victims. Imagine attacking SA survivors then not apologizing but saying you won’t defend the rapist anymore? Just shows her cult mental.
@@asonofliberty3662facts
Agreed
I am now conflicted. On the one hand, I am extremely excited about Linkin Park's new album, and I really love the new song and music video. However, with all of these Scientology things and her support of Danny Masterson and with what Cedric said.....I'm concerned for not just Emily and her family if she does want to leave the church but also Linkin Park and the fans who go to these concerts. Who knows what the church could do to the venues and the band members. This is a VERY sticky situation.
Add that Mike is not telling the truth about why Rob is no longer in the band, in the interview with apple music he implied that he didn't even ask Rob about coming back, he just picked his own drummer, even he lied about what Rob said in 2020 about playing with them (he said that he interpreted that Rob didn't want to be there since 2017 and it was clear to him (Mike) since 2020, cause Rob wasn't there at all in the 20th anniversary (that's a lie Rob was there) , add that Dave doesn't follow Rob on Instagram, until yesterday Brad wasn't either following him. In 2020 Rob said that he was expecting them to coming back together soon, that he was positive about the bands future, it's all recorded
booooo for a girl singer
The Scientology church is so small these days, like 25k people worldwide. They try and keep their members from leaving.
@BeuyobIsHere So just don't support the band and let do to Linkin Park what's done to Star Wars.
Emily recently released a statement regarding Danny Masterson; she does not support him anymore.
Scientology? Oh man we’re f-ked
No we're not. If anything she is.
Why would the band choose her? 😢there are so many talented people out there . RIP Chester
@@AC-cr1kjChester himself loved her.
@@jamie5mauser doubt he would love a Scientologist
@@AC-cr1kj why? How is it worse than any other religion?
She also left the church btw
Nirvana is making a comeback with new singer Tom Cruise.
"They're not replacing Kurt, and I think Tom did amazing"
It really tells you. Even The singer gets replaced but the band brand name remains
He does his own stunts, why not sing about lithium 😂
@@ILikeTheIvybro. ☠️☠️☠️
Led Zeppelin to stage a comeback tour with John Travolta as the drummer.
It's actually pretty crazy that on a planet with 8 billion people LP found a singer from a cult with only 50,000 remaining
It's actually pretty crazy that on a planet with 8 billion people, some ever thought LP were a good band. One of the most lame bands to come out of the horribly lame numetal period. It's a sad state in rock music when a band like this and the foo fighters are still somehow relevant.
@@whois3581 Get a load of this dork
@@whois3581nobody asked
@@whois3581🤓
@@whois3581you're just malding because you're deaf
Scientology does not believe in mental health treatment. Any fan of LP knows that this should be an automatic red flag if Emily does support these beliefs.
Just a follow-up since all of this is still pretty new. Emily's sexual orientation indicates that her beliefs in Scientology aren't exactly devout. Seems like she just wants to avoid rocking the boat with the church at this point which is understandable.
@@KnivesOfTheRound I'm glad you followed up with that. That's such important context that's lacking in this discourse.
@@KnivesOfTheRoundbear in mind also that she was born into the church, she didn't join if of her own free will, so if she says literally anything, she could be cut off from her entire family, nevermind endangering herself, too
Linkin Park needs to address this ASAP. Mike had to know that the fans would look into whoever the new band members would be. I'm pissed.
It's awful and shes not even good. Many fan vocalists are better
Ok Karen
show me on the picture of the anus where scientology tickled you...?
@@michaelbell75 take your weird little rape enabling stalker producing cult and shove it
I'm done with Linkin Park. I won't support a scientologist. When the band comes to their senses, I'm available.
Can you explain how it is worse than any other religion? They have crosses so I assume they are a branch of Christianity.
But what makes them worse than other branches of Christianity?
@@jamie5mauser It's not Christian, they're a cult, it's a well known fact that they intimidate victims of abuse and she was friends with Masterson (from that 70s show) who was convicted of rape while she allegedly harassed his victims before the court case.
Scientology is not a religion, is a cult
@@jamie5mauser Scientology is an esoteric religion, meaning it holds many of its core beliefs in secrecy. The justification for Scientology’s secrecy is that only the truly committed are prepared to understand the "truth." However, from a more critical perspective, this secretive approach ensures that only those deeply entrenched in the system, often financially and psychologically, will accept its teachings without question.
This culture of secrecy and intimidation shields high-ranking individuals from accountability, causing further harm.
Additionally, Scientology's opposition to mental health care and its practice of disconnection-forcing members to cut ties with friends and family who don’t conform-results in profound psychological damage. Unlike mainstream religions that often support mental health treatment and community-building, Scientology isolates members, driving them deeper into the cult. The resulting emotional trauma, coupled with the financial exploitation, ensures that followers remain dependent on the organization.
While Scientology uses Christian imagery, like the cross, it is not a branch of Christianity in any meaningful way. Its teachings, structure, and actions-especially in terms of secrecy, financial exploitation, and control-are far removed from Christian doctrine. Scientology’s rigid, manipulative control over members, especially those at higher levels, more closely resembles a cult than any branch of Christianity.
The cumulative effect of these practices-abuse, financial manipulation, isolation from family, and rejection of mental health treatment-creates lasting harm for individuals involved. It’s this combination of secrecy, control, and exploitation that makes Scientology worse than most mainstream religions, especially in how it actively perpetuates harm both within and beyond its own community.
I'll do the same dude
If she’s putting herself in personal danger by leaving the cult then joining the most high profile band reunion in the world is probably the best way to NOT bring attention to herself.
Mhh that's a good point too but idk if that's really a hindrance for them to not be after her. Or maybe she is still in there and want's to influence people with scientology ideology through LP 🤔 Edit: Someone else wrote that scientology is well known to target ex members of them especially if they are facing public. 🤔
na the whole shebang about not wanting her to publically distance herself (if that is the case) is so that they can use her fame to better the church -- which is why LP is dead to me.
The suck fucks made one of Danny's victims apologize to him by washing and dropping of his car to him. wtaf/
LP died with Chester, this is blasphemy
Well, until I know the answer, I'll be boycotting Linkin Park just like I do Tom Cruise, Danny Masterson, and any other artis or public figure involved in the scientology cult.
And how’s that working out for you?
Do you boycott drug addicts, womanizers and drunkards too? If not, why?
Working out just fine
dumbass
agreed,.
There are multiple ex-scientologists who have stated that she is a second generation born scientologist, with parents who signed billion year contracts and high ranking members in the church. She herself was raised in the cadet org which has a history of human trafficking and chxld abxse and indoctrinates children in Scientology.
If she were to publicly leave the church, denounce the church, etc, she risks her family cutting all contact with her for the rest of her life as its a practice in Scientology.
Being second gen born in Scientology is the equivalent of being stuck in something that is all youve ever known and the church makes you believe you are the only group of people doing good on this earth. Thats what keeps them locked in.
By now, Emily has denounced Danny and I believe what she said to be genuine. Shes a private person for a reason so she probably didnt want to rehash this. I imagine she told the band about either being in or wanting to leave and to give her time.
Then they should have seen this coming and handled it better. If she is an ex-scientologist then be brave and say so. It is the cults teachings that are antithetical to everything Chester went through as a child and an adult. That is what people are having a hard time with. If she denounces them, she could help people trying to leave the cult.
@@macielynn7761fair point but maybe they wanted to respect her privacy
convenient excuse for going to a trial and participating in a harassment campaign on one of the jane doe's
"she risks her family cutting all contact with her for the rest of her life"
So?
@@jliller excactly! We know who else was cut off from their family? Danny's victims! who she then helped intimidate!! Chester was brave speaking out about his abuse, as were the Jane Does; Emily helped in their harassment.
Let’s not forget that the drummer was changed too. It’s honestly kinda weird seeing a band like Linkin Park change their line-up, since Chester was the only real change they made before his passing.
Cester is turning in his grave.The biggest disgrace to Linkin Park and their reputation.Mike and members you are at the bottom without realizing it. I've been listening to you since I was little this is not you and your heads are lost. STOP RELEASING THE ALBUM IMMEDIATELY AND FIRE THE SINGER. YOU THREE GO SOMEWHERE BECAUSE YOU WILL BE THE THREE OF YOU AND PROCESS YOUR EMOTIONS. ONLY THEN WILL YOU REALLY PROCESS CHESTER'S DEATH WHICH WE ARE ALL FIGHTING FOR. WHEN YOU DO THIS, YOU WILL HAVE LINKIN PARK BACK, A CLEAR HEAD, A BETTER VISION AND A WELL SMART DECISION FOR THE VOCALIST. IF YOU KEEP UP WITH WHAT YOU ARE DOING NOW, YOU WILL RUIN EVERYTHING, ALSO YOUR PREVIOUS SUCCESS. FACT! I MYSELF HAD A DIFFICULT CHILDHOOD, AND 3 PEOPLE TOOK THEIR LIVES NEAR ME. I'VE BEEN EVEN MORE TRAGEDIES AT HOME MYSELF WHO KNOW WORSE THAN YOU THINK. THAT'S WHY I WILL ALWAYS BE HONEST, EVEN CRUELLY, BUT FOR GOOD REALLY, NOT BY THROWING SAND IN YOUR EYES
On the one hand, they wanted to pick up where they left off, and Armstrong has a vocal style that is similar to Chester but still entirely her own. Performance wise there aren't a lot of other names I could see doing a better job.
On the other hand, the allegations of her ties to scientology and Danny Masterson are not to be taken lightly. I've heard she distanced herself when he was officially sentenced and may just be holding back criticism of the church out of fear of retaliation, but she needs to give a little more clarity on the situation before too long, lest such an exciting comeback continues to be tainted.
Problem is, I don't think she can easily give clarity on the situation, because Scientology doesn't mess around when it comes to "attacking the attacker". Cedric Bixler-Zavala literally alleges that when he got out of Scientology in 2020 they retaliated by poisoning his new dog by throwing raw meat laced with rat poison into his yard. The official policy of Scientology is attacking the attacker.
It's such a hard situation to balance her being born into it and, if she is trying to distance herself, finding how to do it without putting her, her family, and now all the LP crew in danger from retaliation.
R u kidding me.. she is a life destroyer of so many people. U probably also defend Israel genocide also
Wrong. She is still a Scientologist. She attended Mastersons trial and wrote a letter to the judge, calling for a linear sentence after he was found guilty on all counts.
@@AnimeBronxlink to read?
Let's not forget that this is Linkin Park and let's not forget what happened 7 years ago. How about we take another look at the lyrics for The Emptiness Machine?
What a weird time to be a Linkin Park fan lmao
FACTS 😂
dude im glad youre talking about this and bringing it to light, other music news channels are just pandering and saying and showing only the positive, not the real.
This all has the potential ingredients for a future Trainwreckords video from Todd in the Shadows
Mike is all about the money, doesn't care about the late singer.
Scientology is a joke. If she is in it that’s on LP. For them picking her for the new is a big mistake. She is good but not LP good. Next.
My pushback to this has nothing to do with politics or religion.
My issue with this is one which also applied to INXS and Queen: if you have the talent, start a new band.
There are WAY more cases to support a case for successful sequel bands than there are lead singer replacements (though there have been success stories).
From the breakup of Split Enz, we got Crowded House
After the tragic passing of Kurt Cobain, Dave Grohl reinvented himself with Foo Fighters.
The dissolution of Misfits gave us the superior Danzig.
Cult favourite, The Birthday Party, gave us Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds.
Finally, the initial split of Guns N Roses gave us Velvet Revolver.
True in some instances, but the band name could be the difference between playing an arena or a club. All about the money most of the time.
@@grego7345 Exactly this. Sadly, it's why Donald Fagen cannot go on the road under his own name. Instead, his management insist that he tour as "Steely Dan" despite the fact that this founding bandmate, Walter Becker, is deceased. Donald wanted to retire the band name out of respect for Walter, but management vetoed their support.
This is the worst timeline ever. As a fellow csa surviver like chester once was, this is such a slap in the face. Why couldn't they just start a new band with their weird new singer and leave linkin park alone.
I haven´t heard the new song or Emily singing old LP songs however Linkin Park died for me the day Chester left this world. I think i would have a hard time listening to someone else perform the old songs. I´m happy for fans that are excited to have LP back in a new form but i think i pass.
Luckily I stopped listening after album number two and I honestly think it's weird to worship a band to an unhealthy parasocial level.
@@powerviolentnightmare5026I mean those first 2 albums are their best but they had some fire up until a thousand suns. The rest was atrocious
Chester + Rob
Xenu Park
I hate that I laughed at that.
@RockedNet don't laugh. Emily will lock herself in the closet and we'll have to get R Kelly to bring her out
What a rollercoaster of a 24 hour period for me. I was excited one day then saw the news the next day and I am out. Linking park is over for me.
I am a huge fan of the comeback and new song, and regarding her beliefs and such, I’m willing to give her the benefit of the doubt as of now. There’s a lot we don’t know, so it’s too soon to assume. Linkin Park seemed to have taken this reunion very seriously and I doubt this is something that they would just gloss over.
Emily Armstrong’s involvement goes beyond silence-it’s a choice. Alongside other Scientologists, she reportedly harassed Danny Masterson’s accusers, necessitating sheriff intervention. Her band, Dead Sara, has toured with Masterson’s inner circle, and as recently as Thursday, Armstrong was with Masterson’s ex-wife, who still insists on his innocence-aligning with the official position of Scientology. This isn’t just a loose affiliation; it’s a clique.
Most troubling is her non-apology, where the phrase “unimaginable things” is deliberately ambiguous. For the public, it could be taken as empathy toward the victims, but for Scientologists, it signals deniability-a carefully crafted statement that allows believers to dismiss the charges as unbelievable. Armstrong’s fame, and whatever success she achieves with Linkin Park, risks being in service of a cult that participates in the very crimes Chester Bennington fought against and ultimately succumbed to.
Maybe this is why Rob Bourdon left Linkin Park and distanced himself for the past couple years, the timeline fits to when Emily started working with Mike.
I’ve seen more than one person point out (and tend to agree) that the lyrics to The Emptiness Machine are in fact vaguely about Emily separating herself from Scientology
After listening to it again, this could actually be a valid angle. I just find it really irritating, how many people seem to know for a fact that she is a vile person without any more information. I already didn't envy her because of the inevitable comparison to Chester. I hope this gets resolved, because I really like her vibe from what I've seen so far.
@danielb4480 I was never going to compare her to Chester. Just whether she could do justice to the spirit of his performance. I was ready to defend her right away.
This could change that, but I'll give it a little bit to be sure.
Scientology is a cult, and a dangerous one. Tom Cruise isn't part of his children's lives because he chose it over them
I agree with that. I felt it was about trauma and families, and it could also be that. Along with general religious trauma.
@@danielb4480You don't understand scientology if you think she's a good person.
@@waketp420
Neither do you if you can slump her with the rest of them over something we all know nothing about.
I miss when we knew nothing about artists and just paid attention to whether or not we liked the music or not.
R Kelly.....🤮
@@lindorini I mean one can like someone's music without liking him.
@@rutgerhauser2377No, it's embedded in their music whether it's implied or not and the legacy helped them gain access that they used to take advantage of.
Of course that's just my opinion but the whole separate the artist from the art when it's their art that got them that access...
The maladaptive feelings people experience aren’t just internal-they stem from the maladaptive actions of the cult. Cleansing rituals may temporarily remove the guilt for you, but the damage remains, both for the victims and those who continue to live in denial of that harm.
Man, why can't we have nice things? I'm so hyped for LP's comeback. Did what I could to watch the livestream, enjoyed it, was aware that it wasn't perfect but still gave her and the band props, had fun with the new single, talked peacfully about it on tw (wasn't hyped enough to respond to negative responses) and now I'm here.
I want to have my fun with it. If I have to eat my words I will, but that's a problem for future me. I'm surprised they were the ones having issues already when Oasis came back. In hopes of no future problems let's act like I didn't mention the bros (or anything really)
evil wins when good men do nothing, much less support them with their attention and doubly so monetarily.
Have some integrity, and don't support a grape-enabling, victim-stalking, totalitarian cult. its not hard.
Chester’s own son is deeply upset and angry at this pick. Mike killed the band
@@lisandroxiii5031 so by Emily’s own admission she has harassed sexual assault victims at least once for her church.
How many more times has this happened but there hasn’t been a famous celebrity to call her out publically?
Religious bigotry is not acceptable! People should not be questioning Scientology, or disavowing it. Tolerance and acceptance goes both ways, not just to the "mainstream" religions!
It's not a fucking religion...
@@holaxes4764 The Church of Scientology is a religion!
@@FakeAFSongLyrics whatever you say man ... have a good day
Emily's support of Masterson is even made worse by the fact that she's filling the slot of Chester, who was a victim of sexual abuse, himself. I feel like the guys in Linkin Park are better at reading a room than this usually.
@@blaness13regardless doesn’t excuse the fact she went after the victims lol
@@nathanmcguckin9518 If you think your friend is innocent, your are going to try to defend them, cause at that point in time, they don't look like victims to you, they look like people trying to get a check,
Mike and everyone else in the band are almost certainty aware of her involvement, (her involvement with LP started years ago) and if they have made peace with it considering chesters history, than nobody else has room to talk,
Everyone makes mistakes and shitty judgement calls, its what they do afterwards that matters,
@@blaness13 u don’t attack tne victims tho plus also she most likely didn’t know the case so how would she knew the people accusing him was just telling crap also she still followed him on social media up until the statement tonight she doesn’t come out of it with clean hands
@@nathanmcguckin9518 If she didn't know about the case then how would she know who was potentially going to say something, your statement makes zero sense, her statement (that i just read) mentions being at the preliminary hearings as an observer, and again if you think that people are lying about some you considered a friend (at that time) then they don't appear (important word) to be victims in that moment,
If you are really friends with someone you don't just jump ship just because someone claims something is true. If its proven true then thats different, and she addressed that,
@@blaness13she DID NOT testify
Being a Danny Masterson apologist is kinda a problem
Before or after more came out and he was found guilty?
So what? You have bands like RATM who openly support communists and terrorists. So theres that
Scientology is the problem
They sure did pick the worse person possible
While it is good that she does not support Masterson, that doesn’t change the fact that she’s a Scientologist.
How do we know that's a fact, though? As Luke said, it's certainly possible she's keeping quiet to avoid harassment on the part of her and her family.
Welp... She Made a statement about her involvement at the arraignment...
Here's hoping that... There are more positive things to say as well
Your cult is filled with people committing horrific acts-raping, covering up for rapists, and enabling others to do the same. Those who defend these actions become complicit, turning into abusers themselves, perpetuating a cycle of harm. And let's not forget the exploitation of children, as if those stains could simply be 'erased' through some ritualistic, pseudo-scientific process.
The maladaptive feelings people experience aren’t just internal-they stem from the maladaptive actions of your church. Cleansing rituals may temporarily remove the guilt for you, but the damage remains, both for the victims and those who continue to live in denial of that harm
This is something that should not be encouraged, having one of the greatest Rock/Metal singers of all time replaced by a scientologist who supports Danny Masterson.
It's pretty crazy that anyone gives two shits what religion anyone belongs to in a free country. Do you care what religion every member of every band you like belongs to? If you found out your favorite band were all Scientologists, you would stop supporting them right?
@@michaelbell75cult, not a religion
@@macielynn7761 "The difference between a cult and a religion is the amount of real estate they own." Frank Zappa
@@macielynn7761 A cult is a small, unpopular religion. A religion is a large, popular cult
@@michaelbell75 Scientology ain't a religion
Disappointment of the year... I knew Mike wanted to make a shit ton of money but damn... Big nope for me.
The allegations don’t sound good especially the Danny Masterston stuff BUT I’m still giving her a chance for now. Let’s just see how LP handles this. Also another thing to consider: it’s almost impossible to leave Scientology. They go after people that try so for all we know she was forced to support Masterson.
She poison a dog and stalked SA victims for months.
As for the music, she's not terrible, but shes not that good either. And the Scientology/defense of a rapist stuff are a bit too much to overlook
Ikr. She is not shit honestly, but nor is she the shit. I'm annoyed with how all these UA-cam reacting people are afraid to show any criticism of her singing skills. Everyone be like omg she is so great, she has so much pressure.
It's annoying.
She IS that good. I feel like she couldn't really shine yet in the one new LP song. Listen to Dead Sara. She's awesome there (as a singer, no comment on the other stuff).
It was before his conviction
Rocked, great video
First I would like to say this was a incredibly brave to do first of all after 7 years. Chester will never be replaced and we all know this. Bringing in a female vocalist was probaly the right move to start. I got to say Emily did a fantastic job hloding up ther vocals for how difficult some of these songs can be. The visuals were inpressive. I still have my photo I took with Chester on my wall when we sat on a plane together from PHX to BUR. I wish them all the best!
Emily Armstrong’s involvement goes beyond silence-it’s a choice. Alongside other Scientologists, she reportedly harassed Danny Masterson’s accusers, necessitating sheriff intervention. Her band, Dead Sara, has toured with Masterson’s inner circle, and as recently as Thursday, Armstrong was with Masterson’s ex-wife, who still insists on his innocence-aligning with the official position of Scientology. This isn’t just a loose affiliation; it’s a clique.
Most troubling is her non-apology, where the phrase “unimaginable things” is deliberately ambiguous. For the public, it could be taken as empathy toward the victims, but for Scientologists, it signals deniability-a carefully crafted statement that allows believers to dismiss the charges as unbelievable. Armstrong’s fame, and whatever success she achieves with Linkin Park, risks being in service of a cult that participates in the very crimes Chester Bennington fought against and ultimately succumbed to.
i found info that mike and emily where talking about new songs since 2019
As long as she addresses everything clearly and shows genuine regret about her past comments then I think it should go over well. Not talking about it at all and being silent is a losing proposition on her part.
Problem is I've heard she already distanced herself from Danny when he was found guilty. But being vocal about leaving Scientology should not be taken lightly, because Scientology is known for hunting down the leaving members. This is a dilemma and I'd not be very vocal about it either in her place.
is there proof that she did distance herself from Danny? if there is that would make everyone very relieved
@@sevenak_what we know is she’s only been reported to have been at a single, pre-trial hearing, never went into the courtroom with Danny and his supporters that day, didn’t write him a letter of support, unlike numerous other Scientologists who were connected with him (and several non-Scientologists like Ashton Kutcher and Mila Kunis).
And we have seen zero direct evidence that she’s supported or defended him since then.
Of course, a lack of evidence isn’t necessarily positive proof, but certainly, we’ve not seen evidence of her making any attempts to support, encourage, or defend him since his conviction, which would certainly imply distance, and is even more persuasive (to me) given the high level of control and coercion Scientology seems to have over its active members, and their obvious and coordinated push to defend Masterson, and apparent pressure for their members connected with him to offer their public support in the form of letters during sentencing.
@@slomo3035 "Problem is I've heard she already distanced herself from Danny when he was found guilty." Source? I mean, that's certainly a distinct possibility, but I'd like to know for sure.
@@lukehbDid you know that everything you said is false? She wrote a letter to the judge. Just like Mila and Ashton did. She did defend Masterson. She did harass Jane Does, and she has NOT spoken out against Danny because to speak out against Danny is to speak out against the Church who still very much values Danny.
All she said was that "the courts found Danny guilty". She does NOT believe he is guilty because if she did, it would go against scientology.
Do you guys not get it?
She is speaking carefully so she doesn't get got by the church. It's what scientology does.
Where's Shelley?
Linkin park died in 2017
We need South park more than ever
Linkin Park was a moment in time, that I love and revisit daily, ok i dont leave. But without 100% of them build something new for the future
Thank you for covering this with a thoughtful and critical eye
I like the song but the story about her little bit shocked me
She can say she is out, Beck has done that. Also Becks dad that is a Scientologist produce a LP album, maybe they are more involve in the church that we could have ever known
I don't think much has changed on her stance with the Cult ( it's not a Church it's a fing Cult! ) or her support of Danny Masterson since last year... Linkin Park should cancel the Tour ( or should've waited with that til next year to first see the public's Reaction to her being the new main vocalist ) before going on tour with her... They should get rid of her ASAP to prevent an utter PR Nightmare.
Emily Armstrong’s involvement goes beyond silence-it’s a choice. Alongside other Scientologists, she reportedly harassed Danny Masterson’s accusers, necessitating sheriff intervention. Her band, Dead Sara, has toured with Masterson’s inner circle, and as recently as Thursday, Armstrong was with Masterson’s ex-wife, who still insists on his innocence-aligning with the official position of Scientology. This isn’t just a loose affiliation; it’s a clique.
Most troubling is her non-apology, where the phrase “unimaginable things” is deliberately ambiguous. For the public, it could be taken as empathy toward the victims, but for Scientologists, it signals deniability-a carefully crafted statement that allows believers to dismiss the charges as unbelievable. Armstrong’s fame, and whatever success she achieves with Linkin Park, risks being in service of a cult that participates in the very crimes Chester Bennington fought against and ultimately succumbed to.
Thankfully, she's officially now denounced Danny Masterson in a statement. Good, that was all I really needed to hear.
Weak apology
She was still following him till a hour before.she release her apologies.
Ai apology
@@samanthac3357 Maybe she didn’t know that? I mean, I certainly don’t keep track of everybody I follow.
@@AlexKawa20 she was following him on all social media platforms.
Her situation might be complicated, but LP should have expected this controversy and addressed it in some way. There’s a big difference between the band carefully evaluating her and deciding she has genuinely changed, and the band not caring. Not saying anything implies not caring.
What would you guys do if you were born into Scientology?
It's not like she chose to be part of it as an adult.
The Emptiness Machine is an interesting phrase, as something that is empty could also be described as 'clear'
Did LP know about this? Well, they know now, so the ball is their court to do the right thing.
Emily has just spoken about this. She severed ties with Masterson after attending that hearing. She "hasn't spoken with him since" his conviction.
Scientology is still the problem
Like she's gonna say..."join the cult or die"..wait til people find out what "fair game" is by these people
Well yeah it's hard to talk to people in prison
Emily Armstrong’s involvement goes beyond silence-it’s a choice. Alongside other Scientologists, she reportedly harassed Danny Masterson’s accusers, necessitating sheriff intervention. Her band, Dead Sara, has toured with Masterson’s inner circle, and as recently as Thursday, Armstrong was with Masterson’s ex-wife, who still insists on his innocence-aligning with the official position of Scientology. This isn’t just a loose affiliation; it’s a clique.
Most troubling is her non-apology, where the phrase “unimaginable things” is deliberately ambiguous. For the public, it could be taken as empathy toward the victims, but for Scientologists, it signals deniability-a carefully crafted statement that allows believers to dismiss the charges as unbelievable. Armstrong’s fame, and whatever success she achieves with Linkin Park, risks being in service of a cult that participates in the very crimes Chester Bennington fought against and ultimately succumbed to.
She sounds "fine," and she's a scientologist. What a bad combo!
Who's to say LP doesn't have celebrity friends that follow the teachings of L.Ron Hubbard 🤔
The teachings of a Science Fiction writer con man 😂
@J90I exactly but there's some real famous people that follow that nonsense about ancient aliens that crash landed on earth passed away & their spirits possessed cave men and that's how man kind evolved into what we are now 🙄
@J90I exactly I guess famous people really want something to believe in 😆
How to make one of the band's best days transitioning right into just another worst ones. The universe works mysteriously with a hint of irony... or just the media screwing around again just for the hell of it.
Thank you for actually laying how out the possible reasons/explanations are at least plausible.
However I may feel about her associations, I will definitely say this is not a controversy Linkin Park needs, especially with the new album coming out
I thought she was great until I read who she supported, my first thought was Chester and his sa as a child, I won't be supporting this new linkin park
i was sa as a child suffered in similar vein thank you for thinking of chester and the children, it means alot.
Its a insult to Chester plain and simple. Getting such a vile person on board that defended Danny Masterson that abused others is just crazy. How especially Mike thought thats a good thing is beyond me especially when he knew what happened to Chester
The band died with Chester.
This!
you idiot she didnt defend him at all
no you died not the band, you are no true fan
Thing is, to speak out against it once you're in it is probably hard.
I mean I hear they tend to go after you extra hard for leaving the church.
Nicole Kidman managed it, at the end of the day she’s in a very big position of power right now, and with her exposure if she wanted to leave she could also turn it into advocacy for others leaving Scientology.
@@oatymilkshake
But this chick is not at the level of popularity and social power of nicole kidman. At least not yet.
Emily Armstrong’s involvement goes beyond silence-it’s a choice. Alongside other Scientologists, she reportedly harassed Danny Masterson’s accusers, necessitating sheriff intervention. Her band, Dead Sara, has toured with Masterson’s inner circle, and as recently as Thursday, Armstrong was with Masterson’s ex-wife, who still insists on his innocence-aligning with the official position of Scientology. This isn’t just a loose affiliation; it’s a clique.
Most troubling is her non-apology, where the phrase “unimaginable things” is deliberately ambiguous. For the public, it could be taken as empathy toward the victims, but for Scientologists, it signals deniability-a carefully crafted statement that allows believers to dismiss the charges as unbelievable. Armstrong’s fame, and whatever success she achieves with Linkin Park, risks being in service of a cult that participates in the very crimes Chester Bennington fought against and ultimately succumbed to.
The Jane Does Emily harassed were brave, Chester was brave. Emily is not.
This might be her only way out of Scientology
thanks for the info, i absolutely love that new single but if she is still involved in all this, everything might be ruined
Yall can’t let us just enjoy this comeback 😐
we have to be close to the end now....
The other thing that no one is discussing is that the "Church" of Scientology condemns homosexuality, and Mike's brother is gay. How does Mike reconcile that? Or is Emily just afraid to leave because she then wouldn't be able to have contact with her family or friends in the "Church"? It's too bad, because I think she's talented and I was enthused about this until I learned she was a Scientologist. Kind of ruined it for me.😔
I never thought I'd see this scientologist Hollywood Hell unfold yet again, first Cedric from The Mars Volta/At the Drive In, now Emily from Dead Sara. I don't know how Linkin Park could NOT look into her backstory. Linkin Park literally got cancelled within a day.
Me when I heard the new song: OMG, IT'S AWESOME!!! 😍🤘🔥
Me when I heard the past of Emily: OMG, I'M IN A DILEMMA!! 😵💫😰💔
Awwww, poor snowflake Karen
Emily Armstrong’s involvement goes beyond silence-it’s a choice. Alongside other Scientologists, she reportedly harassed Danny Masterson’s accusers, necessitating sheriff intervention. Her band, Dead Sara, has toured with Masterson’s inner circle, and as recently as Thursday, Armstrong was with Masterson’s ex-wife, who still insists on his innocence-aligning with the official position of Scientology. This isn’t just a loose affiliation; it’s a clique.
Most troubling is her non-apology, where the phrase “unimaginable things” is deliberately ambiguous. For the public, it could be taken as empathy toward the victims, but for Scientologists, it signals deniability-a carefully crafted statement that allows believers to dismiss the charges as unbelievable. Armstrong’s fame, and whatever success she achieves with Linkin Park, risks being in service of a cult that participates in the very crimes Chester Bennington fought against and ultimately succumbed to.
In the end it doesn’t even matter, they tried so hard to lose it all.
I hope Emily gets out of Scientology. She killed it w/ LP IMO. I want her to succeed and the band to have a good legacy.
If the Scientology affects the band, then we can see the end of Linkin Park as we know it..
Then we have Mike Shinoda to blame for not doing a proper historic search on Emily Armstrong..
And Emily Armstrong should have talked about it too..
First it was Tom Cruise and John Travolta and now her. Is it part of Scientology conspiracy?
...Could they really have not picked anyone else?
I mean we need to face the reality here. Scientology has shown that they will find ways to get back at former members. So I do believe they will retaliate and will make Emily's life hell and will be magnetized to the band through this.
I truly also believe that it's likely that to a degree, the label and band members had to have known and just don't care. They've waited 7 long years since Chester's passing to maybe do something with the LP band.
I just don't understand how lopsided and poorly handled this was on everyone's part.
This is going to follow Linkin Park until they just realize it was all a bad idea and learn from it. Chester must be rolling in his grave right now.
To me this is a case of me being concerned about.. y’know… and curious about what she’ll do now that she’s the Linkin Park frontman.
(Also your thoughts at 4:40 are likely a good case why LP picked her if they did know.)
But yeah F Scientology and Danny Masterson.
I'm going to try to reserve my opinion until I have some more information. But if what you said is true I'll never listen to Linkin Park again, I will not support anybody that is a Scientologist giving money to the Scientologist or supporting rapists. What the hell was Linkin Park thinking. You can't hide anything from anybody nowadays it's just a goddamn shame
do you support catholics or any other religion? if so you are just as bad.
Thank you for bringing this up. All other yt sugar coat . They are afraid to speak the truth.
She'll have to address it and say nothing positive about scientology. Otherwise, the live crowds are going to cook and roast her offstage.
Is this how much they thought about Chester, he deserved so much, he was let down in life, surely the ones who cared and loved him should see this doesent feel right
Miss you Chester ❤
why mike?, lp is done.
Radke, Keidis, Diddy, and Drake have done way worse. If Emily Mike Shinoda is comfortable working with Emily, then let him deal with the consequences.
yeah its you celeb worshhiping cultist that permit these sick fucks movement, probably because like diddd you want to pee on minors worshiping
The song was was OK may need to give it a few more listens. But it's going to be very interesting for this era of Linkin Park.
rape apologists be like
From what I've seen, there is absolutely no evidence of her continuing to defend Masterson post-conviction. I'm comfortable giving her the benefit of the doubt, as I believe people can grow and evolve, and what you said about the band potentially keeping quiet on this for the sake of her safety only strengthens that for me.
Emily Armstrong’s involvement goes beyond silence-it’s a choice. Alongside other Scientologists, she reportedly harassed Danny Masterson’s accusers, necessitating sheriff intervention. Her band, Dead Sara, has toured with Masterson’s inner circle, and as recently as Thursday, Armstrong was with Masterson’s ex-wife, who still insists on his innocence-aligning with the official position of Scientology. This isn’t just a loose affiliation; it’s a clique.
Most troubling is her non-apology, where the phrase “unimaginable things” is deliberately ambiguous. For the public, it could be taken as empathy toward the victims, but for Scientologists, it signals deniability-a carefully crafted statement that allows believers to dismiss the charges as unbelievable. Armstrong’s fame, and whatever success she achieves with Linkin Park, risks being in service of a cult that participates in the very crimes Chester Bennington fought against and ultimately succumbed to.
Give Dead Sara a listen, they're pretty awesome
It’s was a mistake. LP’s only makes sense when it’s connected to Chester.
His pain is what drove the music and connected with their fans. This is why people could relate to LP.
The name comes with all of Chester’s mental torture and love for people.
They should have started a new band with a new name. Emily is a good singer.
But there’s no way out of this, she’s trapped within the name LP.
No way around it. It just doesn’t work
Just when I was starting to like her....
I was in the same until this.
Yep, didn't really like the live, she lacked emotion. I watched the new video and liked it, pre-ordered the CD. Not 15 minutes later, this came out and broke my heart. Scientology in general is antithetical to everything Chester survived, stood up for, and went through. Unless it is proven she is an ex scientologist, I will not be listening to the new stuff. More heart breaking is if the band new she was active in Scientology and just didn't care.
I understand her standing with Danny if she didn’t know before the guilty verdict because ain’t you gonna stand by your boy if you think there’s doubt.
It was an open secret in scientology for years that he was doing that stuff. They covered it up.
Your cult is filled with people committing horrific acts-raping, covering up for rapists, and enabling others to do the same. Those who defend these actions become complicit, turning into abusers themselves, perpetuating a cycle of harm. And let's not forget the exploitation of children, as if those stains could simply be 'erased' through some ritualistic, pseudo-scientific process.
The maladaptive feelings people experience aren’t just internal-they stem from the maladaptive actions of your church. Cleansing rituals may temporarily remove the guilt for you, but the damage remains, both for the victims and those who continue to live in denial of that harm.
Scientology bought a rock band for cultural relevance.
They had Beck for decades
Bought a band that talk about mental issues when they (scientology) themselves don't believe in psychology? I don't think so.
@@bluecandyart8596 That's why. They want to funnel vulnerable abuse victims into their cult.
@@VinMetal666 key word 'had'.
Thank you so much for bringing this to a bigger audience