I was a Space Mountain operator back in 1979. Watching this video I cannot believe that the breakdown/evacuation protocols of those old days were not followed. First, the work lights should have come on before your train even stopped. Second, there should have been operations personnel at your train within 90 seconds of your train stopping. The thought of leaving people in a stopped train in the dark for as long as you were is patently unthinkable! Shame Shame on Disney for putting you through this with no compensatory action. Truly shocking to see this and makes me very sad.
Well, as I have heard comments,, there are tons of budget cuts and Cast members being laid off. Those that are hired, no longer go through the extensive training, they go through a quick coarse to get them working. So, it is evident that the cast members were following some kind of protocal, they knew what they were doing and what safety measures had to be started. As for lights coming on when the ride failed and running up the stairs in 90 seconds, things in the di$ney parks have changed, though I dont understand why it would change protocal in the mountain, but it did. Lighting has been changed for xmas showing and it could have easily delayed or abandoned any instant on lighting when the coaster stops. As for the cast members being slow to get to the top of the mountain, that could be in the quick training modifications again. Systems and transportation is so complicated in this company that they need people who KNOW the protocals to make changes. However, they are moving people around or letting them go and replacing with new people so it is no surprise there are alarming problems popping up such as this.; Enjoy, this won't be the last one that has similar problems.
I see a few more carts rolling through on another track or part of the track. So they were waiting for those to finish rolling through before turning on the lights to not break immersion for those last riders to finish before getting back to the people who were stuck. This is what happens when you have too many carts rolling on the track at once. The lights probably should have come on as soon as there were any issues discovered that required stopping the ride though [And they definitely should have tried to get people up and through the ride faster to check on who was stuck]*
The Space Mt. ride is 2 minutes and 28 seconds from the point of dispatch. Operators should not dispatch trains on either track when there is a breakdown. And it certainly makes no sense to keep dispatching trains when the other track is stopped in the dark. As for the elevator, its express purpose is to a. Get personnel to stuck trains quickly and b. To use for evacuation purposes. I have reset the tracks (which has to be done by climbing and following the track) hundreds of times. And it doesn’t take long to get to the top as there are several stair towers strategically built into the system. Know before you go,
Btw, some interesting things to note in this video (rare because of the height) - the twin lift hills, each dispatching to one of the twin layouts in the Mountain. Literally one spills off to the left, the other to the right, in a mirrored arrangement. Also, apparently, the core of the Mountain has an elevator. Why it wasn't used for the evacuation? 🤷♂️ As for the cause, they run many many trains at once on the system with multiple block sections. Only one train can ever be in a block at once; if the system ever detects more than one it means a train is running too fast or too slow and ALL the trains immediately get stopped; each block has a brake run to effect this stop. The issue in the video was it appeared the train didn't get all the way into the brake run before it stopped -- this area, right off the top of the lift, is perhaps the slowest speed of the run. So the cast members were cautious about releasing the passengers until (apparently) they got three burly maintenance folks to physically hold the train for safety.
If it is any consolation, my 8 year old daughter and I were stuck on Spaceship Earth in Epcot prior to its renovation for an hour. They left all of the passengers in total darkness during rhe wait. I was so happy my child did not have a panic attack. Once the power was restored, the ride continued as if nothing had happened. Nine years later she has no recollection of the event.
Kristen you did awesome. If someone has not been evacuated from a ride they don’t understand how nerve wrecking it can be. Watching live I felt you handled it very well.
I was on California Screaming when it broke. Our train stopped at one of the high points and it was plain scary. We had to get out of the car with no safety harness and walk down several flights of stairs.
The first time we went to the Magic Kingdom back in 1974, we waited for hours to get on Space Mountain. As we were waiting to be loaded the ride went down and they turned on all of the lights inside. We were able to see that it was a giant indoor rollercoaster. Things never change. 😅
WE BROKE DOWN ON SPLASH MOUNTAIN ON TOP RAMP ALSO....WALKED US DOWN THROUGH FAKE MOUNTAIN AND OUT BACK OF SHOW BUILDING...TOOK FOREVER TO GET BACK TO ENTRANCE AREA. GOT FAST PASS FOR OTHER RIDES...THATS IT...HAHA
I no longer enjoy any ride I cannot walk off of. Been stuck on many rides. No thanks. Plus, the lights and music would have driven me nuts. Why are the lights not on?
The thing is, if they refurbed it more often then people would complain that "ticket prices are too expensive" (they'd have to raise them to do this maintenance) and "why is it always closed!"
@@coasters_bgw di$ney is the most over priced park there is. How much is IGER taking home, and how about the 10 million dollar bonuses that they give high management??? This was in the news so dont throw fire at me. They are cutting maintenance to save money and that is what affects the rides and attractions. Price wise, di$ney is out of the middle Americas price range now. OK - in December, to stay one night at Fort Wilderness campground, in a RV with water, elec and sewer, you pay $250 per night. That might be ok with you, but for most of us, that is crazy. The highest I ever paid was $67 per night. And remember, they used to book you, say $35 per night, and if you went through a price period where they would charge more money per night, YOU would stay at the $35 rate. They don't do that anymore either. It's all money with di$ney now and the attractions are starting to show it.
Hope you didnt pay for a Lighting Lane, per person At least they could play some comforting music. The Cast members are supposed to be comforting you, How about a Sing-A-Long? Singing " It's A Long Way, to Ground Zero, It's A Long Way, Down There!" Where are the charactors, Space Mickey, Luny Goofy, Quacky Daffy Why isn't Bob Iger up there telling you how great the ride is??? Why are you in dispair as you are desending?? Catch up to the guy in front and keep your eyes on his back. all the cussing and heavy breaths wont help you. Be a leader, not a follower. Cast member: " You will be asked to sign a waiver on the way out, when you do you will be given a 10% discount on your next ride, and have a Wet Wipe to wipe your hands, have a nice day Travelers." Im on the fence whether to click a LIKE or DISLIKE. for the LIKE, its great seeing the mechanics of Space Mountain, when they bothered to move the camera around to let us see, on the Dislike side, All the Whining, and then SUBSCRIBE..... THIS VIDEO BEST SEEN WITH THE SOUND OFF.
I am guessing they were trying to see about getting it going again. When the lights came on is when they decided it could not start again. It also sounded like when they got up there the ride cast member was not sure if the ride was in a safe place to get the people off.
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Bit of an over reaction to safety doing its job, better than it ending in a crash dont you think? Not the end of the world but It sounded like it was, moan moan moan.
That took way too long. Shame on Disney for not moving everyone off the ride 10 minutes earlier. To make guests wait 20+ minutes is unacceptable and during a special event. Shame
Space mountain is the oldest operating rollercoaster in Florida, made by the same manufacturer of “sandblaster” on Daytona beach boardwalk that derailed and severely injured riders
No it's not. Sandblaster was made by Pinfari. Space mountain was made Arrow and Disney. They are entirely seperate designs, manufacturer and pretty much everything about them is different.
I was a Space Mountain operator back in 1979. Watching this video I cannot believe that the breakdown/evacuation protocols of those old days were not followed. First, the work lights should have come on before your train even stopped. Second, there should have been operations personnel at your train within 90 seconds of your train stopping. The thought of leaving people in a stopped train in the dark for as long as you were is patently unthinkable! Shame Shame on Disney for putting you through this with no compensatory action. Truly shocking to see this and makes me very sad.
This corporate Disney evolution just spits in the face of Walt Disney.
Well, as I have heard comments,,
there are tons of budget cuts and Cast members being laid off.
Those that are hired, no longer go through the extensive training, they go through a quick coarse to get them working.
So, it is evident that the cast members were following some kind of protocal, they knew what they were doing and what safety measures had to be started.
As for lights coming on when the ride failed and running up the stairs in 90 seconds, things in the di$ney parks have changed, though I dont understand why it would change protocal in the mountain, but it did. Lighting has been changed for xmas showing and it could have easily delayed or abandoned any instant on lighting when the coaster stops.
As for the cast members being slow to get to the top of the mountain, that could be in the quick training modifications again.
Systems and transportation is so complicated in this company that they need people who KNOW the protocals to make changes. However, they are moving people around or letting them go and replacing with new people so it is no surprise there are alarming problems popping up such as this.;
Enjoy, this won't be the last one that has similar problems.
I see a few more carts rolling through on another track or part of the track. So they were waiting for those to finish rolling through before turning on the lights to not break immersion for those last riders to finish before getting back to the people who were stuck. This is what happens when you have too many carts rolling on the track at once. The lights probably should have come on as soon as there were any issues discovered that required stopping the ride though
[And they definitely should have tried to get people up and through the ride faster to check on who was stuck]*
The Space Mt. ride is 2 minutes and 28 seconds from the point of dispatch. Operators should not dispatch trains on either track when there is a breakdown. And it certainly makes no sense to keep dispatching trains when the other track is stopped in the dark. As for the elevator, its express purpose is to a. Get personnel to stuck trains quickly and b. To use for evacuation purposes. I have reset the tracks (which has to be done by climbing and following the track) hundreds of times. And it doesn’t take long to get to the top as there are several stair towers strategically built into the system. Know before you go,
I would not be mad. I'd be honored to see the curtain pulled away for me to see how the magic happens for myself
Btw, some interesting things to note in this video (rare because of the height) - the twin lift hills, each dispatching to one of the twin layouts in the Mountain. Literally one spills off to the left, the other to the right, in a mirrored arrangement.
Also, apparently, the core of the Mountain has an elevator.
Why it wasn't used for the evacuation? 🤷♂️
As for the cause, they run many many trains at once on the system with multiple block sections. Only one train can ever be in a block at once; if the system ever detects more than one it means a train is running too fast or too slow and ALL the trains immediately get stopped; each block has a brake run to effect this stop.
The issue in the video was it appeared the train didn't get all the way into the brake run before it stopped -- this area, right off the top of the lift, is perhaps the slowest speed of the run.
So the cast members were cautious about releasing the passengers until (apparently) they got three burly maintenance folks to physically hold the train for safety.
That’s so interesting. Thanks for the info!
@ParkPassTV no problem!
What a treat to be able to see the inside of space mountain!! Ramps and steps not a big deal at all...
Just be glad you weren’t upside down when it stopped ❤
If it is any consolation, my 8 year old daughter and I were stuck on Spaceship Earth in Epcot prior to its renovation for an hour. They left all of the passengers in total darkness during rhe wait. I was so happy my child did not have a panic attack. Once the power was restored, the ride continued as if nothing had happened. Nine years later she has no recollection of the event.
Yesss this happened to us too! We didn’t get evacuated, we were only stopped for 5 mins but we were on an incline
These rides stop often. Its a treat to see these rides with the lights on. How are you not afraid to hop on that ride but you're terrified of stairs?
Wow kind of fascinating to see. And to think it feels so scary with the lights off. 😮
Kristen you did awesome. If someone has not been evacuated from a ride they don’t understand how nerve wrecking it can be. Watching live I felt you handled it very well.
Awesome what a cool experience
Very scary! Don’t think I’d ride that again. Even more so sense seeing the innards.
At least you got to see it with the cool Christmas light show for an extended amount of time
I was on California Screaming when it broke. Our train stopped at one of the high points and it was plain scary. We had to get out of the car with no safety harness and walk down several flights of stairs.
Wow! That was something. I understand your nervousness. Glad everyone was safe.
I’m only part way through, and oh my Billy Bob!!!
The first time we went to the Magic Kingdom back in 1974, we waited for hours to get on Space Mountain. As we were waiting to be loaded the ride went down and they turned on all of the lights inside. We were able to see that it was a giant indoor rollercoaster. Things never change. 😅
What did you initially think it was? A real rocket ride?
Remember that the cast members helping the guests here had to climb UP five and a half stories to get to them; that takes time.
Did you not see the elevator?
@neilengel3715 I did, and also saw they didn't use it
Crazy how long is going to get guest off do they bring in fire trucks
Just the firemen
They bring the ropes to lower you down the side
I was stuck on Space Mountain Grad Night and the lights came on. We were there about 20 minutes saw everything
This is my favorite ride, but I’m scared of the pipes. Also, I don’t even know if I could’ve got out of my car.
Odd how people don’t talk to each other - the guy in front of her , she to him etc… is everyone is in their own bubble - reach out to others
I have a question when was recorded?
Last Sunday! 12pm
I think the cast members took too long. They were cool and collective. Very important to keep calm.
Very dramatic
Will you ever ride it again?
Yup
@@ParkPassTV brave girl! I will not.
ABSOLUTELY
We broke down on the other track at the same spot a few years ago too.
what did you get for this from disney
I am glad Adam was not in the park to cut too. We got to see the whole thing this way😊
Wow interesting
Did you get any compensation
We got a LL.
WE BROKE DOWN ON SPLASH MOUNTAIN ON TOP RAMP ALSO....WALKED US DOWN THROUGH FAKE MOUNTAIN AND OUT BACK OF SHOW BUILDING...TOOK FOREVER TO GET BACK TO ENTRANCE AREA. GOT FAST PASS FOR OTHER RIDES...THATS IT...HAHA
I no longer enjoy any ride I cannot walk off of. Been stuck on many rides. No thanks. Plus, the lights and music would have driven me nuts.
Why are the lights not on?
lights not on? how long did you watch the vid?
I think its a disgrace how disney doesn't put enough into maintenance. These rides beeak down too much
The thing is, if they refurbed it more often then people would complain that "ticket prices are too expensive" (they'd have to raise them to do this maintenance) and "why is it always closed!"
@@coasters_bgw di$ney is the most over priced park there is. How much is IGER taking home, and how about the 10 million dollar bonuses that they give high management??? This was in the news so dont throw fire at me.
They are cutting maintenance to save money and that is what affects the rides and attractions.
Price wise, di$ney is out of the middle Americas price range now.
OK - in December, to stay one night at Fort Wilderness campground, in a RV with water, elec and sewer, you pay $250 per night.
That might be ok with you, but for most of us, that is crazy. The highest I ever paid was $67 per night. And remember, they used to book you, say $35 per night, and if you went through a price period where they would charge more money per night, YOU would stay at the $35 rate. They don't do that anymore either.
It's all money with di$ney now and the attractions are starting to show it.
As someone who doesn’t like HEIGHTS you did amazing!! ❤
Was this video live?
This did happen at a holiday party while Kristen was live. I was watching.
Not even a random ride or food voucher?! Disney is anti-consumer.
If you don't know di$ney by now, you never will
People saying cast members too too long do realize how far they had to go right? Why they don’t have people posted there I will never know
Are you on this right now???
No
No sorry. This was streamed live last week
You will be ok. Take deep breaths. It will be over soon. You are very brave!
she was whining throughout. brave?
That was a crazy night! Glad Kristen was okay and she was so brave!! And I know Adam was jealous as he would have loved that to happen to him. 😂
Wow that was exciting to watch! You did great!
I'm terrified but don't want to put my phone down so I can use both hands to hold onto this rail... must keep recording😂
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Hope you didnt pay for a Lighting Lane, per person
At least they could play some comforting music.
The Cast members are supposed to be comforting you, How about a Sing-A-Long? Singing " It's A Long Way, to Ground Zero, It's A Long Way, Down There!"
Where are the charactors, Space Mickey, Luny Goofy, Quacky Daffy
Why isn't Bob Iger up there telling you how great the ride is???
Why are you in dispair as you are desending?? Catch up to the guy in front and keep your eyes on his back. all the cussing and heavy breaths wont help you. Be a leader, not a follower.
Cast member: " You will be asked to sign a waiver on the way out, when you do you will be given a 10% discount on your next ride, and have a Wet Wipe to wipe your hands, have a nice day Travelers."
Im on the fence whether to click a LIKE or DISLIKE. for the LIKE, its great seeing the mechanics of Space Mountain, when they bothered to move the camera around to let us see, on the Dislike side, All the Whining, and then SUBSCRIBE.....
THIS VIDEO BEST SEEN WITH THE SOUND OFF.
Then they take you right past the elevator lol
Kristen is soo brave 😄👍. Fantastic 😄😄👍
Yep never riding this again
Can't wait to get back on. The stopping is the best part
I think they stopped it because the guy in front of you kept sticking his arms out. Smh
He was making faces at the cameras
interesting that they didn't use the elevator...
I would be so scared
The cast members took too long way too long
I am guessing they were trying to see about getting it going again. When the lights came on is when they decided it could not start again. It also sounded like when they got up there the ride cast member was not sure if the ride was in a safe place to get the people off.
This was nothing, some rides take 60 minutes to get you out.
@@lifequest7453Which ones? I shall avoid them.
@@billcooper4525 If you are paying for lightening lane, go for it and enjoy
@@billcooper4525 On second thought, YOU should avoid them all.
In the first time in forever
I remember going on space mountain because in 1982 on my class trip. That building and ride in old.
😱
Hi
My kids would de desesprated by now
it's f'in stairs and she's terrified???
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Bit of an over reaction to safety doing its job, better than it ending in a crash dont you think? Not the end of the world but It sounded like it was, moan moan moan.
That took way too long. Shame on Disney for not moving everyone off the ride 10 minutes earlier. To make guests wait 20+ minutes is unacceptable and during a special event. Shame
Wait till you are on a stopped attraction for 60 minutes
The person talking said she was informed that the fire department had been called to assist in taking people off the ride (safety protocol).
Get over it. Ride malfunctions happen
@@rocketrodlover I think the ride stoppage and being walked through the back stage is the best part
You are most definitely correct on that . @@lifequest7453
Space mountain is the oldest operating rollercoaster in Florida, made by the same manufacturer of “sandblaster” on Daytona beach boardwalk that derailed and severely injured riders
No it's not. Sandblaster was made by Pinfari. Space mountain was made Arrow and Disney. They are entirely seperate designs, manufacturer and pretty much everything about them is different.
@@known1443 Disneyland Space mountain has had an entrie track rebuild done. Space Mountain in Florida was scheduled for one but I think IGER killed it
@@lifequest7453 He would do it if it was necessary, which it is not. Evidence: the fact they're doing one on BTMRR where it is necessary
@@coasters_bgw ?
Oh no 🤦♀️ my goodness graces. How embarrassing lol 😆 😅 🙃 🤣 😬 😂 😆
Goodness "GRACES"?.?.?.
@@steelman86 Goodness GRACES
Qas
You seem really stressed call Morgan n Morgan for the people
Yes SUE, get em back
I’m terrified! Judge for those fat fingers I’m assuming if she jumps down on the platform she might break the whole building. Maybe eat less 🤷🏻♂️
Not a very nice comment. But thanks
This is my favorite ride, but I’m scared of the pipes. Also, I don’t even know if I could’ve got out of my car.