Hope you guys enjoyed this video? I personally love Bioshock Infinite because it was so different to anything I’d experienced story wise before. Let me know what you think!
I had the game since I was a young kid, but I didn’t understand the game at all. Just saw a bunch of fun colors and clouds and that was enough for me to play it. But as I get older, I understand more and more things. It always blows my mind. They really don’t make games like this anymore
there 3 things that amazed me: 1. The game itself. 2. How the writers actually came up with the story 3. How you broke it down that made me finally understand it after years of being confused
In one part of the game it shows you Comstock's timeline. It showed his date of birth and during a loading screen it showed Booker's ID. Which had the same date of birth. I thought it was weird and came up with a theory that these two men where probably the same guy. I finished the game and was shocked. Great game 10/10.
Bioshock Infinite has one of the most tragic stories in gaming where a father and daughter are never meant to have a normal life as a family no matter what timeline they are in.
I'm pretty sure the ending of the game indicated a timeline where Booker never gave her up which is why it implies she is in her room waiting for him when he goes to check on her.
I honestly think the idea of Columbia attacking cities on the surface like New York is terrifying. Seeing Columbia quite literally looming over the city is scary itself. This is why I love infinite so much.
That scene never made much sense given that outside of Columbia's existence, involvement in the Boxer Insurrection, and disappearance, our real time line and the game's don't diverge that much. The fact that the city was unseen from NORAD, NATO, SATCOM, hell even the USSR's radar and spy installations on its approach to New York doesn't make any sense. Radar definitely would have picked it up and F-14's and F-15's would have been scramble to identify and possibly intercept the city.
@joyboy232 After 2 play throughs, that *finally* occurred to me too. It would be scary if that happened back in the early 1900's, not so much when it looks like it's happening in the 90's. Floating city or not, we had advanced weaponry of our own. It would have been a sitting duck for jets and missiles.
@@Cowboycomando54Its possible the dimensional tech could have masked the city. I wonder if maybe this was a final hurrah of colombia before inevitably being destroyed by the U.S.
You know I bet during the development of Infinite the entire team facepalmed themselves because they couldn’t use the name “Rapture” for a religious city floating in the sky.
I wonder how different the original Bioshock Infinite would have been compared to the one we got. Apparently Songbird was going to be a stalking boss that will come and go throughout the game. And Elizabeth was going to play a bigger role in combat mechanics.
The fact that main player had to go through all that and learn all the lore and stuff and his own daughter had to drown him was just so sad i legit almost cried but tysm for explaining the lore its good to know after many years of confusion
what makes this game's lore even more believable (and despicable) is that the Wounded Knee Massacre, and the Boxer Rebellion were real historical events. frankly, I find this fact of history to be truly horrific.
Our entire civilization we know now was built on blood. Apart from the science fiction elements, most of the humanity seen in the games are highly realistic.
One thing that really opened my eyes through this game is as u see with the vox and founders each faction thinks there the good guys but both of them are horrible. Really reminds me of politics now in the U.S
Game is still fire. I just reinstalled it to play it for like the 6th time. It's like watching your favorite movie. You can't do it all of the time but those times you do after months or years, FIRE. And it looks amazing maxed out on pc. Performance is fantastic too.
I'd honestly had so many questions about it since this came out so many years ago so I'm extremely glad you made this. Absolutely loved it and would love to see more like this. Amazing work.
Incredible lore vid! This story really tackles a lot of advanced ideas and it's really intriguing the way all of it goes. Really well done. Well played.
Thank you so much for this thorough and intriguing history! I adore the Bioshock series and this sort of in-depth storyline shows me even more why. It's all truly a masterpiece! As an aside, I think Elizabeth is the most charming, wonderful character of any game.
BioShock, and in particular Infinite, is my favorite game ever. Yet I never pieced together until you pointed it out that the "AD" on the back of Booker's had was his daughter's initials. I feel like such a poser right now.
Thank you, I was in the kitchen pacing back and forth trying to piece together the story and I couldn't figure it out but your video saved time and effort because of your effort.
My question about the ending is that even though the Elizabeth’s kill Booker before the baptism, aren’t there infinite timelines where he wasn’t drowned? This Booker was killed preventing Comstock and Columbia, but is our POV Booker the only one that matters? The part during the festival where Booker guesses the coin toss shows he’s died dozens of times, so what’s to stop another Comstock from a different reality from preventing Booker from being killed before his baptism? There must be a timeline where the machine isn’t broken and Comstock sees Booker successfully killing him and stopping his plan. Maybe I’m missing something. Great video by the way.
By killing the POV Booker, the Elizabeths broke the constant and prevented all Comstocks from being created, this theory goes according to the laws of multiverse.
For this to make sense, we have to assume that the different realities are placed in a certain order, where one reality's existence will create another, so if the twins managed to open up a tear that took them took a timeline of the original Booker and kill him than all other realities won't existence, so there cannot be another Comstock trying to change the past.
@@joannesmith1175 So let’s call our Booker POV Booker Prime. Are you saying that Booker Prime is Booker at the earliest point in the Booker to Comstock timeline? But from my perspective the only reason we even have Booker and Comstock as two different people is because of Bookers choice to get baptized or not. This creates a definitive split of A and B timelines. Timeline A is Comstock. Timeline B is Booker. Timeline A Comstock wants his daughter back, so he goes to Timeline B to steal Elizabeth. Causing the events of the game. At the end of Booker and Elizabeth’s successful timeline they see themselves reaching the same point at the lighthouse, indicating that this has all happened before. Even if Booker Prime dies before the baptism, there has to be other Bookers and Elizabeth’s who also reached the same conclusion, in which case all Bookers wouldn’t be eliminated, which we see after the post credit scene where Booker talks to Elizabeth implying they live a peaceful life and the Comstock of the DLC chapters of you want to include those as well (up for debate). This whole thing puts my brain in knots, but what I guess I’m trying to say is that I don’t think you can ever get rid of every Booker or Comstock, especially if the twins are alive. There’s an infinite number of worlds as the title of the game suggests. IDK. I’m a big dumb, so your theory is probably just as valid as my interpretation.
Actually, wasn't it two? I remember the one from the DLC and the other from the corrected timeline, which was showed post credits, don't know if I'm right, I played a long time ago, but I remember Booker waking, calling for his daughter and opening the door just to find her where she should be all along.
Yeah I kept trying to find something about that scene and what it meant, but there was no exact reason for what this cutscene meant. The only thing it said was it was hinting at there being a Booker who might remember Columbia, or another timeline that still needed closing where he had traded Anna again. No definite answer about this. I just wonder if it was setting up the return of Booker for the Burial at Sea DLC or to show that there will always be a Booker out there who is willing to trade Anna and start it all again. No idea but yeah I don’t know honestly, it’s so complex! But all I know is the Anna is making sure there are no more Comstock situations so maybe that was a Booker she shut down before the Burial at Sea DLC (which was stated that this one was the last one to be stopped, not 100% if true though it’s still vague)
@@WiseFish is almost like the ending on Inception, which you don't really know what actually happened, I tend to belive that it was a corrected timeline which Columbia never happened, after Anna killed all Comstocks only Booker should remain, now without the loop, since he never crossed the rift like the others he doesn't became a paradox.
Just being picky. We don't know how long Booker was in he Army before Wounded Knee. Slate at one time calls him a Corporal. This would point (but not prove) that Booker had been in the Army a little while and proved himself. As a note, the legal age to join the Army was 18 at the time. So Booker lied to get in. Which raises the question: How much did Bookers life suck that joining the Army was a good idea? Wounded Knee was a one sided battle and a massacre, but the US troops didn't just roll up and start shooting. Also, some Lakota were actively trying to start a fight. The fighting was (at best reporting) started by the accidental firing of a weapon. (A Congressional inquiry actually blamed Congress for what happened since they were not fulfilling treaty obligations.) I think it's hard to say that Columbia had "Christian Values" after some time as Comstock seems to have tossed out most, if not all of the New Testament. The part that has Christ in it, so the Founders are NOT Christians. More accurate to say, Columbia went back to pre-Christian values. A little mixed up on the timeline there. Robert Lutece didn't have to look through a Tear to discover Booker and Anna. He lived in the same reality as they did. (Robert was following Comstock's orders though.) The first time the Tear Machine was used to send a person through was to get Anna. Elizabeth only started to manifest her powers after age 2. Relations between Columbia and the US Govt were strained even before the Boxer Rebellion and in game info points to Columbian forces nearly wiping Peking off the map likely killing hundreds of thousands. Given that Comstock had access to the Tear Machine he must have planned the breakaway from the US. A couple notes. Only the Comstock realities are wiped away. The Booker realities still exist as seen in the after credits scene. And there is evidence that Comstock didn't truly buy the BS he was handing out. In his office aboard the Hand of the Prophet you can find a photo of the Eifel Tower and letters from Victor Hugo (the French writer). Odd that someone who was so pro-American Founders would have things from France in his office. A very interesting take on BSI all in all. Keep up the good work. sm
@@Ritiwayra The point I was getting at (Poorly) was that Booker got kicked up to Corp rather quickly for the time period. Soldiers would often stay of Privates for many years during the time period (The Army had less than 30,000 members) and advancement was very slow. Booker advancing in rank after only a couple years was unusual. Glad you liked the breakdown. sm
@@leilaniaileenlove I'm an editor on the BioShock wiki so I pick up stuff from there. Have studied a lot of history (my minor in collage in fact) and the Gilded Age was a focus for a time. And doing a *lot* of research on the many things I didn't know much on. sm
@@mattwoodard2535 I really like how BSI focused on Christian values to the extreme or whatever Christianity Comstock had in place. What new idea would you like to see as the focus of either the story or of the city itself in the new bioshock game?
Loved the video, but the bit of songbird is wrong. Songbird bonded with Elisabeth because she repaired its breathing apparatus, not because of shared DNA. The Lion with the thorn in its paw
Yes true, but they did test DNA as well to find a link. That’s what Suchong was doing with the Big Daddies and pretty sure Fink also tried that on the Songbird.
The Songbird was created along the same principles as the Alpha Big Daddy, they only differ in the process of how that bonding happened. In the end, the DNA bonding is unnecessary...
Bioshock 1 was great, never played two but infinite blew me away. The first game I ever used 3D audio headphones on and by Christ that opening. Shame we won't get any more
I played this game three times since 2013 and never fully understood the story behind this until I watched your video which explained everything very clearly and simply. Unfortunately because of the prearl clutching society that we now inhabit, there will never be another game that touches remotely close on the issues that were explored in this game. Racism, classism, sexism, American exceptionalism. These things were the main things that kept me glued to the screen while playing & coming back to play it two more times. Some of the gameplay was not as fluid as it should have been but the basic mechanics and the vigors were interesting to play around with. Also the many different villains you constantly interact with made it for a fresh experience for the most part. This was an excellent made video by you and I am about to watch the rise and fall of rapture.
I love this saga.....it's the only game that I had played like 4 times (the complete trilogy). The story is confusing but the game play and visuals are the best of the best 😍😍😍😍😍
I know this is gonna be great without even watching 😁 I didn’t realize how much I missed from the Infinite story! I only played it when it first came out and may like to play through again. They just don’t seem to make games like they used to during the Bioshock, Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Dragon Age days :(
Wait a minute, so Booker was 16 in 1890 when the massacre happened, he gets promoted to staff sergeant but after a while decided to screw it, get baptized and become christian. Then after some time he becomes preacher, after a while becomes quite influential, actually so influential that he gets not only to talk with congress but also convice congressmen to finanse very costly project, then after a while he found scientist he needed, and after a much much longer while(I mean it takes sometimes a year to build just a house) they build floating city. AND ALL THAT HAPPENED IN 3 FRIGGIN YEARS, NOT TO MENTION THAT ALL OF IT WAS ARCHIEVED BY SOME RANDOM HALF INDIAN TEENAGER. I now know why Comstock thought he was some chosen one, I mean he was - how else just some kid could archieve all that.
Did Comstock know Booker would turn up and fail 122 times at the time when we, the players, experience the game? When you first meet Comstock he says, "Bring us the girl and wipe away the debt? This will end in blood, DeWitt. But then again - it always does with you, doesn't it?"
Dear WiseFish! I Love the video, love the narration, I dig what you make of the games' meaning. Hope You're doing well! Best wishes for the New Year! (From Poland, with Love! 😁😘
I used to love infinite but when i began to think that actually the sacrifice of Booker and Anna doesent mean anything because infinite realities.... it begans to bother me a bit i mean.... Its a bit absurd (to me at least) that one Booker of one reality created infinite realities.... its more logical (to me again) think that was infinite paralel universes like paralel lines and Booker created a rift in between.... So as i said the Elizabeths, Bookers and moon nazis are still a thing with or without their sacrifice.... so the end of Bioshock to me its sad not because it closes the cycle, like the player options you have on the 1rst bioshock with the little sisters.... its a sad ending because its a sacrifice in vain of a daughter and a father trying to help each other dying in the process.
The lore is interesting, just wish the gameplay was better then what we got, the way the systems worked was just not done well. I had a Rifle from like the start carry me all the way to the end as it was my only fully upgraded item, rendering most other weapons entirely useless.
They should’ve had another booker be song bird, it’s suppose to mirror a big daddy and what better person to protect her then another booker who lost his Anna. It would mirror the story in Bioshock 2 of Mark Meltzer and Cindy
Omg how did you get those beautiful in game shots!? I’m over here trying to snap shots between melee attacks because I can’t get my gun off the screen!
Columbia fell because well.. it’s society was completely unstable Also fantastic video, I wasn’t the biggest fan of infinite, it was good in some parts and bad in others but you have good narration on it.
I don't really get why only one Anna/Elizabeth remained, or why the player's Booker specifically had to be drowned to end Comstock in (almost) every reality.
21:30 how do you know that ? so this has some plot holes - why Elizabeth came back to kill one more Comstock in the Burial at the sea, if drowning Booker solved the problem ? - how did she even exist if she was never there ? - so tears can move you not only through multiverse but also through time ? or does every tear always open a new multiverse? - so Rapture and Colombia dont exist in the same universe? why there was no another version of Booker there?
When I first played Bioshock Infinite, I didn’t like it all that much. I felt that the story made no sense and there were a lot of things that just happened for the sake of it. But I gave it another try years later and I actually found myself enjoying it a lot more than I use to, for some reason everything seemed to just click and now I actually really respect this game a lot.
Also here's my issue. After the credits, we see another Booker DeWitt with his daughter, Anna. But how can he exist at that point if Elizabeth took him back (I assume) in time, to when he was to be baptized, and drowned him?
Versions of Booker still exist. Only the Comstock versions were erased. Remember that the Booker we play never accepted baptism in the first place. One “constant” across all of Booker’s realities is that if he seeks redemption he becomes an even more evil man, who eventually steals the daughters of the non-baptized versions of himself and ruins their lives.
@@jakek.2084 I guess she only killed the Booker(s) that was about to accept the baptism. Both versions went to the baptism, but only one didn’t get far enough into it to be asked, “And what name will you take, my son?”
Hope you guys enjoyed this video? I personally love Bioshock Infinite because it was so different to anything I’d experienced story wise before. Let me know what you think!
Another Fantastic Video! Love all your videos Definitely keep it up!
My favorite video of yours so yeah definitely I did!
At this point I shouldn’t expect a horrible video. So it’s great!
Perfect video!
Wisefish could you do story of the darkwood in your next video? Or outlast 1 lore
I was never able to play the games when they were fresh out in the world, but Bioshock has some truly fascinating lore behind the series.
Ditto
some of the best!
I had the game since I was a young kid, but I didn’t understand the game at all. Just saw a bunch of fun colors and clouds and that was enough for me to play it. But as I get older, I understand more and more things. It always blows my mind. They really don’t make games like this anymore
Same here....
Dude you missed out on the multi-player In bioshock 2
there 3 things that amazed me:
1. The game itself.
2. How the writers actually came up with the story
3. How you broke it down that made me finally understand it after years of being confused
To be honest, the story was very similar to BioShock 2, like the basis of it
Yesss
In one part of the game it shows you Comstock's timeline. It showed his date of birth and during a loading screen it showed Booker's ID. Which had the same date of birth. I thought it was weird and came up with a theory that these two men where probably the same guy. I finished the game and was shocked. Great game 10/10.
you were BIO shocked?
@@namenicky996🤣
@@namenicky996it took you a whole ass year to tell that joke
@@Joseph-mh9xd it is worth it. Joesph
Bioshock Infinite has one of the most tragic stories in gaming where a father and daughter are never meant to have a normal life as a family no matter what timeline they are in.
Don't feel bad , infinite timelines means hundreds of millions of possible timeliness where they where together and happy
@@Cold_Cactus nope
@@Cold_Cactus it doesn’t a big part of the game is constants and variables, no matter what sometimes things just happen and will never not happen
@@gyr0zeppeliii507 So even when elizabeth killed every comstock, columbia still exisits in burial at sea?
I'm pretty sure the ending of the game indicated a timeline where Booker never gave her up which is why it implies she is in her room waiting for him when he goes to check on her.
I honestly think the idea of Columbia attacking cities on the surface like New York is terrifying. Seeing Columbia quite literally looming over the city is scary itself. This is why I love infinite so much.
That scene never made much sense given that outside of Columbia's existence, involvement in the Boxer Insurrection, and disappearance, our real time line and the game's don't diverge that much. The fact that the city was unseen from NORAD, NATO, SATCOM, hell even the USSR's radar and spy installations on its approach to New York doesn't make any sense. Radar definitely would have picked it up and F-14's and F-15's would have been scramble to identify and possibly intercept the city.
@joyboy232 After 2 play throughs, that *finally* occurred to me too. It would be scary if that happened back in the early 1900's, not so much when it looks like it's happening in the 90's. Floating city or not, we had advanced weaponry of our own. It would have been a sitting duck for jets and missiles.
@@Cowboycomando54Its possible the dimensional tech could have masked the city. I wonder if maybe this was a final hurrah of colombia before inevitably being destroyed by the U.S.
@@sarasunshinemt4444 or hell aa guns/missiles if it happen in 1940s or 50s it will still be a sitting duck or hell 1920s
@@Rubia376 the real threat would have been bits of the floating city falling on the land below.
You know I bet during the development of Infinite the entire team facepalmed themselves because they couldn’t use the name “Rapture” for a religious city floating in the sky.
I wonder how different the original Bioshock Infinite would have been compared to the one we got. Apparently Songbird was going to be a stalking boss that will come and go throughout the game. And Elizabeth was going to play a bigger role in combat mechanics.
Didn't know that about Songbird. Very Resident Evil! Dono if it would have worked but sounds cool
Yeah I remember when it came out on the commercials of G4 talkin about that
Kinda of makes you wonder if there was a timeline where 2k games kept to the original script and we in another timeline got a different one.
So Songbird was going to be like the Mr.X of the Bioshock series fro Resident Evil?
@@michaeljacobs1186yeah
Infinite was the only Bioshock game I got bored with fast but I'm more than happy to learn the lore, cheers.
I think it was the weakest in terms of gameplay but I really enjoyed the story personally
It took this video, ten years later to finally make sense of Bioshock Infinite's clusterfuck of a plot to me.
The fact that main player had to go through all that and learn all the lore and stuff and his own daughter had to drown him was just so sad i legit almost cried but tysm for explaining the lore its good to know after many years of confusion
what makes this game's lore even more believable (and despicable) is that the Wounded Knee Massacre, and the Boxer Rebellion were real historical events. frankly, I find this fact of history to be truly horrific.
Our entire civilization we know now was built on blood. Apart from the science fiction elements, most of the humanity seen in the games are highly realistic.
One thing that really opened my eyes through this game is as u see with the vox and founders each faction thinks there the good guys but both of them are horrible. Really reminds me of politics now in the U.S
Same thing with how Ryan and the bolshevik, the way such storys are rooted to our world really adds to it
Game is still fire. I just reinstalled it to play it for like the 6th time. It's like watching your favorite movie. You can't do it all of the time but those times you do after months or years, FIRE. And it looks amazing maxed out on pc. Performance is fantastic too.
Just beat it yesterday and when I get home from work today ima replay it again bc I feel like I missed so much
I'd honestly had so many questions about it since this came out so many years ago so I'm extremely glad you made this. Absolutely loved it and would love to see more like this. Amazing work.
Incredible lore vid! This story really tackles a lot of advanced ideas and it's really intriguing the way all of it goes. Really well done. Well played.
Thank you so much for this thorough and intriguing history! I adore the Bioshock series and this sort of in-depth storyline shows me even more why. It's all truly a masterpiece! As an aside, I think Elizabeth is the most charming, wonderful character of any game.
BioShock, and in particular Infinite, is my favorite game ever. Yet I never pieced together until you pointed it out that the "AD" on the back of Booker's had was his daughter's initials. I feel like such a poser right now.
Thank you, I was in the kitchen pacing back and forth trying to piece together the story and I couldn't figure it out but your video saved time and effort because of your effort.
Hands down my favorite game series......replay it at least once or twice a year......
The Lutece Twins remind me of the Gman from Half-Life since they are transdimensional beings with extraordinary abilities.
Only played Bioshock 1 and never got a chance to play the 2nd or this masterpiece. One of these days I will.
Infinite is no masterpiece.
@@gimpytheimpThe real Masterpiece was the friends we made along the way
I feel so sad when Elizabeth died it such a good game for me
Please do “Burial at Sea!!”
It was a serious cluster fuck, and it all leads to Bioshock 1.
Something about the camera shake and how they're just like... going in little circles at 11:50 is hilarious to me for some reason
I just realized something....was addiction to Vigors(Plasmids) EVER mentioned in Bioshock Infinite, or did the writers just skip over that entirely?
I think there was a non addictive form of plasmids made in bioshock but by the time they were made it was to late
My question about the ending is that even though the Elizabeth’s kill Booker before the baptism, aren’t there infinite timelines where he wasn’t drowned? This Booker was killed preventing Comstock and Columbia, but is our POV Booker the only one that matters? The part during the festival where Booker guesses the coin toss shows he’s died dozens of times, so what’s to stop another Comstock from a different reality from preventing Booker from being killed before his baptism? There must be a timeline where the machine isn’t broken and Comstock sees Booker successfully killing him and stopping his plan. Maybe I’m missing something.
Great video by the way.
By killing the POV Booker, the Elizabeths broke the constant and prevented all Comstocks from being created, this theory goes according to the laws of multiverse.
For this to make sense, we have to assume that the different realities are placed in a certain order, where one reality's existence will create another, so if the twins managed to open up a tear that took them took a timeline of the original Booker and kill him than all other realities won't existence, so there cannot be another Comstock trying to change the past.
@@joannesmith1175 So let’s call our Booker POV Booker Prime. Are you saying that Booker Prime is Booker at the earliest point in the Booker to Comstock timeline? But from my perspective the only reason we even have Booker and Comstock as two different people is because of Bookers choice to get baptized or not. This creates a definitive split of A and B timelines.
Timeline A is Comstock. Timeline B is Booker. Timeline A Comstock wants his daughter back, so he goes to Timeline B to steal Elizabeth. Causing the events of the game.
At the end of Booker and Elizabeth’s successful timeline they see themselves reaching the same point at the lighthouse, indicating that this has all happened before. Even if Booker Prime dies before the baptism, there has to be other Bookers and Elizabeth’s who also reached the same conclusion, in which case all Bookers wouldn’t be eliminated, which we see after the post credit scene where Booker talks to Elizabeth implying they live a peaceful life and the Comstock of the DLC chapters of you want to include those as well (up for debate).
This whole thing puts my brain in knots, but what I guess I’m trying to say is that I don’t think you can ever get rid of every Booker or Comstock, especially if the twins are alive. There’s an infinite number of worlds as the title of the game suggests.
IDK. I’m a big dumb, so your theory is probably just as valid as my interpretation.
Can't beat this consistent stream of lore videos
For a city in the sky it sure fell hard
like the roman empire?
@@joshuagraham2843 A bit like that, yeah.
so basically Joseph Smith making flying city
Sounds about right
Great video, I love Bioshock infinite and this video did an amazing job recapturing the story that made the game so enjoyable
Actually, wasn't it two? I remember the one from the DLC and the other from the corrected timeline, which was showed post credits, don't know if I'm right, I played a long time ago, but I remember Booker waking, calling for his daughter and opening the door just to find her where she should be all along.
Yeah I kept trying to find something about that scene and what it meant, but there was no exact reason for what this cutscene meant. The only thing it said was it was hinting at there being a Booker who might remember Columbia, or another timeline that still needed closing where he had traded Anna again. No definite answer about this. I just wonder if it was setting up the return of Booker for the Burial at Sea DLC or to show that there will always be a Booker out there who is willing to trade Anna and start it all again. No idea but yeah I don’t know honestly, it’s so complex! But all I know is the Anna is making sure there are no more Comstock situations so maybe that was a Booker she shut down before the Burial at Sea DLC (which was stated that this one was the last one to be stopped, not 100% if true though it’s still vague)
@@WiseFish is almost like the ending on Inception, which you don't really know what actually happened, I tend to belive that it was a corrected timeline which Columbia never happened, after Anna killed all Comstocks only Booker should remain, now without the loop, since he never crossed the rift like the others he doesn't became a paradox.
Everything was perfect. Good stuff man, I’m subbing.
Just being picky. We don't know how long Booker was in he Army before Wounded Knee. Slate at one time calls him a Corporal. This would point (but not prove) that Booker had been in the Army a little while and proved himself. As a note, the legal age to join the Army was 18 at the time. So Booker lied to get in. Which raises the question: How much did Bookers life suck that joining the Army was a good idea?
Wounded Knee was a one sided battle and a massacre, but the US troops didn't just roll up and start shooting. Also, some Lakota were actively trying to start a fight. The fighting was (at best reporting) started by the accidental firing of a weapon. (A Congressional inquiry actually blamed Congress for what happened since they were not fulfilling treaty obligations.)
I think it's hard to say that Columbia had "Christian Values" after some time as Comstock seems to have tossed out most, if not all of the New Testament. The part that has Christ in it, so the Founders are NOT Christians. More accurate to say, Columbia went back to pre-Christian values.
A little mixed up on the timeline there. Robert Lutece didn't have to look through a Tear to discover Booker and Anna. He lived in the same reality as they did. (Robert was following Comstock's orders though.) The first time the Tear Machine was used to send a person through was to get Anna. Elizabeth only started to manifest her powers after age 2. Relations between Columbia and the US Govt were strained even before the Boxer Rebellion and in game info points to Columbian forces nearly wiping Peking off the map likely killing hundreds of thousands. Given that Comstock had access to the Tear Machine he must have planned the breakaway from the US.
A couple notes. Only the Comstock realities are wiped away. The Booker realities still exist as seen in the after credits scene. And there is evidence that Comstock didn't truly buy the BS he was handing out. In his office aboard the Hand of the Prophet you can find a photo of the Eifel Tower and letters from Victor Hugo (the French writer). Odd that someone who was so pro-American Founders would have things from France in his office.
A very interesting take on BSI all in all. Keep up the good work. sm
Guys in the army can stay corporal for as long as the want. Actually you choose if you wanna move up or not. Thanks for the breakdown btw.
@@Ritiwayra The point I was getting at (Poorly) was that Booker got kicked up to Corp rather quickly for the time period. Soldiers would often stay of Privates for many years during the time period (The Army had less than 30,000 members) and advancement was very slow. Booker advancing in rank after only a couple years was unusual. Glad you liked the breakdown. sm
Just wondering - how the heck do you know all of this? It's like you were one of the writers or something! 😊
@@leilaniaileenlove I'm an editor on the BioShock wiki so I pick up stuff from there. Have studied a lot of history (my minor in collage in fact) and the Gilded Age was a focus for a time. And doing a *lot* of research on the many things I didn't know much on. sm
@@mattwoodard2535 I really like how BSI focused on Christian values to the extreme or whatever Christianity Comstock had in place. What new idea would you like to see as the focus of either the story or of the city itself in the new bioshock game?
It's always the massacre of the wounded knee that get to you, never the wounded elbow.
I have watched a couple videos explaining the game and in my opinion this is the best one.
So when they said that Comstock wasnt there at Wounded Knee he actually indeed was, bcause he was Booker...
Such a good explanation of the lore. It’s like I’m watching a documentary on the history channel lol
I never really understood the whole story. I have played this game 3-4 times. But I do understand the how and why’s now. Thanks!
infinite is my favourite one in the series...it's just so good on every level imo.
Loved the video, but the bit of songbird is wrong. Songbird bonded with Elisabeth because she repaired its breathing apparatus, not because of shared DNA. The Lion with the thorn in its paw
Yes true, but they did test DNA as well to find a link. That’s what Suchong was doing with the Big Daddies and pretty sure Fink also tried that on the Songbird.
The Songbird was created along the same principles as the Alpha Big Daddy, they only differ in the process of how that bonding happened. In the end, the DNA bonding is unnecessary...
In one of the recordings you find out that booker speaks sioux since he's half sioux.
Bioshocks story writers deserve like 5x salary with all the twists they come up with.
Like.. i could not have thought of this
Bioshock 1 was great, never played two but infinite blew me away. The first game I ever used 3D audio headphones on and by Christ that opening. Shame we won't get any more
Great vid on a great game. I’ve played through this game countless times and i still found out new stuff!
Even if it wasn't exactly what was promised and I felt there was less in it than BS2 it's still a fun game and the storytelling is just awesome.
never stop doing what you are doing. great content.
Thank you, I hardly understand the lore until now
This was such a perfect explanation to many plot holes I found or confusion that I had. Thank you so much!
A sacrifice for the algorithm.
Love your videos!
I played this game three times since 2013 and never fully understood the story behind this until I watched your video which explained everything very clearly and simply.
Unfortunately because of the prearl clutching society that we now inhabit, there will never be another game that touches remotely close on the issues that were explored in this game. Racism, classism, sexism, American exceptionalism. These things were the main things that kept me glued to the screen while playing & coming back to play it two more times.
Some of the gameplay was not as fluid as it should have been but the basic mechanics and the vigors were interesting to play around with. Also the many different villains you constantly interact with made it for a fresh experience for the most part.
This was an excellent made video by you and I am about to watch the rise and fall of rapture.
I’ma huge fan of YT creators exploring sci-fi and game lore so the algorithm gods stuck again with this recommendation!
I loved opening a tear and hearing Shiney Happy People. And then there is the girl you find in the slum district singing fortunate son.
Finallyyyyyy waited so long for this
Great video! Love how you make it easy to understand.
Such a beautiful and fascinating city
I love this saga.....it's the only game that I had played like 4 times (the complete trilogy). The story is confusing but the game play and visuals are the best of the best 😍😍😍😍😍
Always love the bioshock videos!
you’re so underrated bro
Thank you dude that means a lot!
Good video. Thank you for explaining it. This goes show drunkenness of power will forever be the downfall of man.
Man I love the bio shock series it’s always the view of its atmosphere that gets to me
It seems like one of the more obvious lessons that we see in Bioshock is "absolute power corrupts absolutely"
I know this is gonna be great without even watching 😁
I didn’t realize how much I missed from the Infinite story! I only played it when it first came out and may like to play through again. They just don’t seem to make games like they used to during the Bioshock, Mass Effect, Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Dragon Age days :(
correction: Peking, not beijing was attacked by columbia.
further, not all tears were closed and Fink worked with Yi Suchong
Thank you for explaining the events of infinite because all the way up to watching this video, I didn't have a fucking clue about wth was going on
Great video! Loved it. :D
Absolutely amazing video. The way everything is explained. And the editing! Bravo
Wait a minute, so Booker was 16 in 1890 when the massacre happened, he gets promoted to staff sergeant but after a while decided to screw it, get baptized and become christian. Then after some time he becomes preacher, after a while becomes quite influential, actually so influential that he gets not only to talk with congress but also convice congressmen to finanse very costly project, then after a while he found scientist he needed, and after a much much longer while(I mean it takes sometimes a year to build just a house) they build floating city. AND ALL THAT HAPPENED IN 3 FRIGGIN YEARS, NOT TO MENTION THAT ALL OF IT WAS ARCHIEVED BY SOME RANDOM HALF INDIAN TEENAGER. I now know why Comstock thought he was some chosen one, I mean he was - how else just some kid could archieve all that.
Thank you for this amazing video. It really explained it simply and understandably.
This story is more convoluted than that of Lost...
Did Comstock know Booker would turn up and fail 122 times at the time when we, the players, experience the game?
When you first meet Comstock he says, "Bring us the girl and wipe away the debt? This will end in blood, DeWitt. But then again - it always does with you, doesn't it?"
Dear WiseFish! I Love the video, love the narration, I dig what you make of the games' meaning.
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Isn't it crazy that sometimes the only person that can stop you from doing the worst things is literally another version of yourself?
Correct me if I'm wrong but during the ending they say that Booker Comstock always create the city if not in the sky than end the see correct
I can't wait for Bioshock Isolation!
I used to love infinite but when i began to think that actually the sacrifice of Booker and Anna doesent mean anything because infinite realities.... it begans to bother me a bit i mean....
Its a bit absurd (to me at least) that one Booker of one reality created infinite realities.... its more logical (to me again) think that was infinite paralel universes like paralel lines and Booker created a rift in between....
So as i said the Elizabeths, Bookers and moon nazis are still a thing with or without their sacrifice.... so the end of Bioshock to me its sad not because it closes the cycle, like the player options you have on the 1rst bioshock with the little sisters.... its a sad ending because its a sacrifice in vain of a daughter and a father trying to help each other dying in the process.
If Jefferson, Washington and Franklin saw Comstock, they’d say he’d gone mad and was ruling Columbia as a mad king in all but name.
6:07 it's weird that a Theocratic city has their own quantum physicist.
Wow such a good analysis of the game ! I finally understand the story ❤❤
Wait what, I never knew booker was native America
The lore is interesting, just wish the gameplay was better then what we got, the way the systems worked was just not done well. I had a Rifle from like the start carry me all the way to the end as it was my only fully upgraded item, rendering most other weapons entirely useless.
They should’ve had another booker be song bird, it’s suppose to mirror a big daddy and what better person to protect her then another booker who lost his Anna. It would mirror the story in Bioshock 2 of Mark Meltzer and Cindy
Bioshock need to make a country that combine columbia rapture and america into one country with a very dark secret
Red Vox group: Columbia here we come to take! ^w^
(The Fuhrer arrived to kill them, and use Columbia as a different life).
Red Vox group: Oh hell no!!
Omg how did you get those beautiful in game shots!? I’m over here trying to snap shots between melee attacks because I can’t get my gun off the screen!
Columbia fell because well.. it’s society was completely unstable
Also fantastic video, I wasn’t the biggest fan of infinite, it was good in some parts and bad in others but you have good narration on it.
I don't really get why only one Anna/Elizabeth remained, or why the player's Booker specifically had to be drowned to end Comstock in (almost) every reality.
The city of Columbia sounds more like a cult then a paradise
Bioshock 1 and 2 are classics. They ruined the franchise with this game. But I must say your breakdown of Infinite's rather convoluted lore was great.
It was by far the best PS3 game. And personally, after playing Bioshock 2, this was refreshing!
21:30 how do you know that ?
so this has some plot holes
- why Elizabeth came back to kill one more Comstock in the Burial at the sea, if drowning Booker solved the problem ?
- how did she even exist if she was never there ?
- so tears can move you not only through multiverse but also through time ? or does every tear always open a new multiverse?
- so Rapture and Colombia dont exist in the same universe? why there was no another version of Booker there?
Great video !
God forbid, either Columbia or Rapture is exactly how some people view modern America
There's so many freaks from Monument Island these days.
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When I first played Bioshock Infinite, I didn’t like it all that much. I felt that the story made no sense and there were a lot of things that just happened for the sake of it. But I gave it another try years later and I actually found myself enjoying it a lot more than I use to, for some reason everything seemed to just click and now I actually really respect this game a lot.
You should do one on Elizabeth. I just subscribed.
I noticed that all the weapons in bioshock infinite are gold or something like gold
That was actually because I got the preorder DLC which was gold weapons lol
@@WiseFish ah
@@WiseFish makes sense
Also here's my issue.
After the credits, we see another Booker DeWitt with his daughter, Anna.
But how can he exist at that point if Elizabeth took him back (I assume) in time, to when he was to be baptized, and drowned him?
Versions of Booker still exist. Only the Comstock versions were erased. Remember that the Booker we play never accepted baptism in the first place. One “constant” across all of Booker’s realities is that if he seeks redemption he becomes an even more evil man, who eventually steals the daughters of the non-baptized versions of himself and ruins their lives.
@@jakek.2084 I guess she only killed the Booker(s) that was about to accept the baptism. Both versions went to the baptism, but only one didn’t get far enough into it to be asked, “And what name will you take, my son?”
@@chrisidoo oh yeah right, been a while since I played
jeremiah fink didn't steal he was trading with su-chong there is a whole recording about it.