Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S1:E4
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This viewer's PC doesn't post! Rather, it powers on and immediately shuts off. Let's try to fix it! By the way, if you live in the Orlando, FL area and have an issue with your rig, apply to have it (possibly) fixed for free today! gregsalazar.com/fix-or-flop
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14:27 Taking a victory lap after you solved an issue like that. Ahh such sweet, sublime pleasure.
Damn Greg, you couldn't turn that AIO 90 degrees so the display was correct? I know it can probably be fixed in software, but it would had been so much more satisfying to see the thing 100% done and wire managed and clean with that stupid screen facing the correct way.
@@catch22frubert he would need to access the owner's profile and password which not all owners are comfortable with. since it works without needing to request the password to install the software for the AIO and it can be done by the owner which greg certainly would have let him know of, why would he request for the password and potentially invade their privacy? just a foot for thought :)
@@catch22frubert It literally says in the video that it can be fixed via software, and he can't rotate it 90 degrees to make it look right because of the way the cables are. It's physically impossible for him to do that and it's the only way the cables look good. It's not that deep.
When I saw this victory lap……it reminded me of Kevin in Home Alone when he realises he has the home to himself and tears through the house 🤯🤦🤦♀️🤯
@Quantum that wasn't necesssary at all
The viewer: almost got an x570 board from Greg.
The current board: Not today!
B450 Gaming Pro is fine, I got it too. No Chipset Cooler = less sound
Had the same issue- after i gotto the post and Main screen I immediately updated the bios. Since then no issues.
i have that in mine same CPU to
@@mikeycrackson Ayyo fax
The old board is very decent ot begin with, especially if you are not going to push clocks, which with amd is a bit pointless.
Dang, that motherboard really got jealous when his big brother was about to be put in the PC and decided it would start working again.
I guess it was either do or die somewhere in a landfill, without even a home case to be in...XD
I got a b450 Myself. They do get a lot jealous.
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The GPU sag was killing me, good touch with the brace
I have a gaming Z 1660 Super card. For some reason they don't want to sit level. Even with an anti sag bracket. I finally just gave up cause one of those brackets that force it up seem to put more pressure on the slot then just letting it slightly sag.
Saw that RIGHT off the bat when he removed the door at first. Wiped my brow off when he installed that then knew someone had to of mentioned it lol. *Whew*
my neck still hurts from tilting my head and trying to pretend there was no sagging.
yea thats quite disturbing
@@Valeria-bh2lm Nightmare fuel.
i was cringing so bad at that rear fan set to intake, thank you for fixing it. omg xDDD
Having the rear fan as an intake is actually a recommended way to feed more air to the AIO fans if you have them on the top of the case, assuming you know to place the AIO fans as exhaust.
I ran all intake when having my blower card exhaust all the air out of the case. I ended up switching it around when i moved to a new case.
Guy argued with me and a few other users on reddit that his fans were on exhaust when you could see their stickers.
PCOCD, am I right :D
Just curious (very amateur builder here)
1. if the rear is still set as intake, and he's using cpu AIO cooler, and top fans are set as exhaust, does the rear intake fan helps in VRM cooling?
2. Or the intake air is instantly sucked out by the nearest top exhale fan, thus making it redundant?
Awesome job Greg. After seeing how disappointed you are when you are unable to find a resolution, it was a joy seeing your excitement and satisfaction with resolving this issue. I really appreciate the level of care you show for the people whose systems you work on. This is a great series. I am learning a lot. Keep it going.
Hey there! I appreciate it! Thank you!
Man blue balls'd the guy by saying he would give him a new motherboard
If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Would rather save it for someone who has a genuinely bad board 👍
At least he got a support bracket for his graphics card lol thats an upgrade
@@nguyenhoangquockhanh4930 That thing was hanging lower than me....
@@nguyenhoangquockhanh4930 The Computer being fixed is a bigger upgrade LOL
@@GregSalazar what if someone sends you a system with h67 mobo and 11900k for a fix.
For a moment, i was worried that you're going to leave that gpu sag there.
I am a relatively new PC enthusiast. Just built my own first rig last December and thank god it posted first try. It took me 2 weeks to get everything built up and all those days I was having nightmares of it not booting up. Your series is a great learning experience for me.
just started watching, Greg says: "I have no idea what is wrong with this build" and I'm already screaming cable management is a problem!
probably because they had to disconnect and reconnect a bunch for testing
@@thiefrules yup, finally came back and finished the vid.
It's so satisfying to fix something without having to replace anything. Glad it got sorted out.
In a dumpster I found a I7-6700k computer with a similar problem. It was a short in the front usb-port. My son was very happy for the upgrade.
A little tip in case people have the same problem: I had problems in the past with my PC not booting up very often. And that was always because the screws of the mainboard were simply too tight screwed. So I loosened the screws and it worked. The last time it happened, my CPU cooler was screwed too tight. So a single screw can cause *the entire PC* to stop working.
Can you help me with my PC? My PC works like a charm for the first 3 weeks then suddenly one morning it's not firing up literally the power button does nothing. So I leave it for a few days and then plan to go to a repair shop. But one day I decided to fire It up again and it works, my PC is now open for almost a month without shutting it down because when I do a proper shutdown the problem goes back and the power button does nothing again. I'll be happy if you could reply to this thank you so much
@@royetmanalo7329 Honestly, I've never heard of this kind of problem. If your power button does nothing, then i would suggest to check the tiny cables from your case that are going to your mainboard. So just make sure that your "Power SW" cable is not loose.
@@PixelGxming I don't think the front panel cable is the problem because if my PC decide to run I can shutdown for a few hours and fire it up again and it works perfectly. But when my PC is shutdown for the whole night and I open it in the morning the problem goes again and when it decided to open up again after hours of button mashing the time and date is delayed for few hours but the other bios settings still remains. I think it's some kind of electrical short but I don't know where to look at or where is the shorting happens
@@royetmanalo7329 I have not really an idea at the moment. Maybe try to renew the mainboard battery?
@@royetmanalo7329 yeah try changing your cmos battery
I've once had a pc not working where the culprit was a freaking fan, from there on when troubleshooting I disconnect everything that isn't necessary to boot including fans and front IO. A lot easier to troubleshoot when you only have 4 or 5 components.
This is why I love working with PC's...you are always learning new things. I started young with trial and error and I feel like what you did at the end was similar to how we all learn. Something random worked, and you'll never forget to check it ever again.
I had someone come to me with a similar issue, power LED was plugged into the power button header pins
I can attest, that I have done that before.... Older motherboard with bad/unreadable header labels.
That back fan hit my OCD so hard 😂 Great video! 👍
That back fan was like that for balancing the air pressure. 3 inflow/3 outflow. Now the case will probably have negative air pressure. as 2 (restricted) 120 in, to 4 120 out
Whenever i see this type of issue. I would remove everything from the case and place them on a testbench because the pc is showing symptoms of a short circuit. Maybe a screw is touching the case or the mobo is having direct contact with the case. I haven't watched the full video yet
He didn't do it, but, as is often the case with these kind of things, he probably would have ultimately saved time by biting the bullet and fully disassembling.
Ive seen this issue many times and its a result of a short, and in my experiences it was either the wiring done wrong for power or a standoff.
@@fathom18 right on. I had a friend who did a full cleanup of his pc. While reassembling he screwed his mobo directly to the case. He didn't use any standoff. I removed his board, eliminated any trace of static electricity and his prob was gone. Another one has his standoff bent and that resulted in it touching both the case and the mobo
@@woodywolf0309 hey dude, i have a problem with my pc, didn’t know if you could help me, but whenever i have 24 pin cable in it turns on the whole pc lights up, but whenever i have a cpu cable on it doesn’t even light up it doesn’t turn on?? it’s a weird problem, it’s as soon as the cpu power cable is in it doesn’t light up. the motherboard green power light at the bottom is on when i have cpu cable in but nothing else?
@@woodywolf0309 i’ve also reset the cmos, unplugged components like ram, gpu, and checked all the power cables are in properly…
Greg's series this year have been top tier, love every episode!
I was saying things under my breath during this episode about the fans and the cable management and how crazy it would be if the board worked when taken out of the case. Thank you for doing all of it and addressing every little thing. This episode was so satisfying and I’ll sleep well tonight because of it.
The front IO cables were my first thought here. They're always too small and easy to mess up.
As soon as the computer powered up without pressing the chassis power button that was my first guess.
What may have happened was a permanent short across the power pins. That would explain both why it starts by itself and why it shuts down after a few seconds. However, I don't think it explains why it powers on again. I don't remember that behavior but I also don't recall holding down the power button for a minute to find out.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 Occam's razor my friend. The simplest answer is the case power switches are REALLY cheap, and it got stuck pressed in. I immediately said to myself "stuck power button" because THAT is what a stuck power button does(Yes, I've had two thermaltake cases do this. They are particularly bad in this regard). There is probably an actuator sitting on top of the power button, which does exactly nothing when the switch itself is stuck.
@@Grimmwoldds Makes sense. So a continuous short across the pins does cause a boot loop. I'll have to try it some time.
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 Motherboard at off state: "I see these two points are connected. I turn on."
Motherboard about three seconds after turning on:"User has pushed the power button for 3 second. Hard shutdown"
Ad naseum.
The dead giveaway is that the only way to stop it is to turn the PSU itself off. It's unlikely to be anywhere except at the power switch, because it would require BOTH wires to be stripped and shorting against each other.
Just love how you teach the community to fix their pc while literally helping someone out of the mess. Keep it up👌🏻👌🏻
I know that feeling, encounter a problem that you never seen before, after successfully fix it, gain new knowledge on fixing this problem. FELT GREAT!
You have no idea how much I look forward to and enjoy watching these videos. My own PC didn't post the first time I built it and I had to fix it myself, amazing to see you helping people and creating such content while doing it
this does made me think of placed the power LED or HDD activity LED cable in the reset bottum spot
nicely fixed and looks clean
The best PC tech channel on youtube for real. Such a good and chill personality combined with amazing knowledge. Legit the only PC tech youtuber i still watch.
I'm glad that you flipped the exhaust fan. It was burning my eyes.
Case header cables have caused me more problems than anything else ever.
Those little connectors are the worst aspect of PC building. They're tiny, they're fragile, and they're just a royal PITA.
Same with the back io panel, those tabs can short the board and perform the same shutdown issue.
Yeah I plugged in power button on the wrong one and it did the same thing as this video but more of a pop noise
Lets see when I can have my PC checked by an expert, That expert is you Greg!
Honestly, checking the power and reset btn is one of the first things I do after checking the memory, cause I've fixed so many issues simply because those wires was messed up or because the case button was broken, that I just put those in first place at my checklist.
It's so entertaining to watch this along with you troubleshooting this. PCDC and this are such good series.
I enjoyed the fact you threw in a sag bracket for the ol boy. haha. This series has been awesome!
Love this series! keep it up!!
Glad you're enjoying it!
Love the idea of this series. Just discovered you and because of this awesome series, I am subscribing. Great stuff.
Yoooo dude, this is such a common issue with the front IO cables, I have a rule when someone brings me a PC that does now start or shuts down quickly, a simple power button with a wire from an old case, it has been my best friend for a looooong time. Just disconnect everything down there and connect the power button only, this saved me hours of troubleshooting :D
This happens for maybe 15 seconds when I reverse an overclock or change something in the bios
It's because your system has to register the changes and then actually make them.
Power cycling is completely normal when you make changes in thr BIOS.
The GPU sag almost gave me a heart attack
Nice troubleshooting methodology. Professional at work.
Absolutely love this serie from you Greg, please keep up the amazing work you do! :)
Haha glad it got sorted but "here's what you coulda won!"
Greg: Gets haircut.
Viewers: Who are you and what have you done with Greg.
Bing watching this whole series is so fun! Good job!!
I apologise for saying so. I'm more posting this because i'm proud of how for i've come as an amateur PC builder/troubleshooter - but when you said the PSU switch turned the PC on at 6:18.. that's where i'd have looked at the case Power switch to mobo connection.
You're the most recent youtuber i've gotten into watching and i'm still learning from all of you.. but that moment just gave me a big smile 😂
Earned a subscriber in me today Greg. Nice one :)
My friend has dealt with the same issue when they built their pc recently 😂
I bloody knew it might've been the connectors at the bottom of the motherboard, I feel clever. Well sort of
OMFG that cable management is giving me goosebumps, so good. I'd pay money for that alone. Love your videos.
Greg, I am a UK subscriber and PC Hobbyist/gamer. I have been messing about with PC's since the early 90's with 386 and 486dx PC's. Your channel is really good watching and I enjoy it very much. You do a fabulous job. I sometimes wish I lived in Orlando just so I could deliver my non working PC to you as a challenge. Keep up the great work my friend. 👍
Great work Greg, your customers are very lucky to have you in the area.
pre-liked because i already know i'll enjoy this vid!
lol I just did the exact same thing.
Plot twist: The owner set this up, so he could get a new beefier motherboard, but failed.
(just a joke, no hate)
Love how primo that build looks after adding the GPU bracket and some cable/hose mgmt! 👍👍👍
These videos and the deep cleaning videos are by far the best thing I’ve seen a creator do in a long time. The content feels so refreshing in a world where a good majority of creators just copy one another.
I learn a lot from these videos . Thanks keep up the great videos!
I was about to write the solution when you said was the motherboard but i keep looking at the video, you figured out!
By the looking of it, if the pc is turning on by itself it is the front panel power button, many inexperienced PC builders never take a look to the manual to see how to plug in front panel pins, or the button itself dies and shorts power cycling the pc. Lesson learned.
I recommend you to get a buzzer. I own the same buzzer since 2008, many boards have just LED's to debug issues, but the buzzer tells you exactly whats the issue, no need for fancy numeric LED indicators. I power on everyday my pc to work, and listen the buzzer, indicating me that theres no issue on the pc, and trust me, sometimes i just power on the pc and the buzzer made a different sound, indicating that something is wrong.
I'm absolutely loving this series job well done Greg
I think you are my favorite youtuber rn, not even kidding, getting to learn so much from you, thank you
You handled this with "grace". I definitely always reconnect wires since I had a video posting issue beforewhere the 24 pin cable was not exactly plugged in all the way to the motherboard.
Nice touch adding the GPU anti-sag bracket, that GPU looked like it needed one. I use plenty of them on the builds I flip, and have one of them on my personal system.
I love the honesty in these videos. even if things don't go according to plan. One suggestion though, before jumping straight into replacing the board after all trouble shooting steps have being followed, take the board out the case, and try boot it bare boned on the table (no GPU, know working RAM and known working CPU and known working PSU) I've had experiences where the board was making contact with something, was being warped by the case, which caused all sorts of issues.
I love being part of a new series from the start, you don't have that demoralizing feeling of having to catch up. Looking forward to more videos.
I had the same issue, a few days back and found that my front IO power button was damaged. Which caused powers on and immediately shuts off.
Awesome job Greg....
Greg your videos addictive to me. Great content. Keep up the great work.
17:46 Finally. That fan had me stressed out.
Awesome, Greg!
This series is just as good as the PCDC.
Keep it up! Can't get enough!
Thank you so much for flipping that rear fan and fixing sag. Great video
I always start a troubleshoot with a minimum configuration. Majority of the time, that will lead you to the issue. Great work on this!
Greg, a true hero to the people. Keep up the good work! Loving this and the PCDC series!
Good job, this serie is a good help. keep on going.
I have had boot problems with two builds. First one had me perplexed until I changed a SATA cable and the system booted. Second one was a bad memory module and was easy to diagnose. Sometimes it can come down to just a bad cable giving symptoms as you have experienced in this episode.
I'm gonna be fixing someone's pc tomorrow that has the same symptoms, so this was actually pretty handy to keep notes on things to look for, thanks man
I had the same issue after building my rig. The cause was the PSU. I hadn't used in 4 years. I just blew the dust and cleaned it and now its just perfect.
Thank you SO much for fixing the GPU sag. I love your attention to detail.
An errant speck of dust can do it. Dust can carry a minute current and even ground out components. Several years ago, I cleaned my system, a tiny little dust bunny jumped into an empty Dimm socket for a RAM module and as soon as I booted the system, there was a small flame from the dust bunny and that short fried the dimm socket. Thankfully, I was still able to use the board with two sticks of memory, but it was a valuable lesson on being very careful when you clean your PC.
Very nicely done my friend. I really enjoyed watching this video.
Love your repair videos, thank you very much! :)
Greetings from Germany
I really appreciate these kind of troubleshooting Videos
You did a Great Job
Thank you for the Video
But i never thought that removing/reconnecting (AUDIO/USB/front cables) the cable below the motherboard would solve the problem...
I recently bought a new gaming pc, and i had to build it from scratch took me at least 1 day and half with that knowledge i was able to fix my old pc, i was so happy
had a similar thing happen a few years ago, it would try to boot, flash a few lights, turn off and try to boot again. After hours of checking connections, swapping PSU's, GPU's and deciding it was the MB, pulled all of the case related wiring, jumped the green wire to ground just to see what would happen, it posted. started reconnecting stuff one thing at a time to find the problem, never found the issue, it always posted for years after that. while still a mystery for me, its nice to see it happed to other people too. GG on the GPU brace the sag was making me tilt my head to one side.
I suggest picking up an A+ cert book. The book would have suggested to disconnect all peripheral cables (especially front io cables, sata cables, nvme, and video card) to eliminate any of those peripherals or cable issues as main culprits. If you still do not have a post beep you are left with mobo, CPU, and RAM to eliminate. If you get a post beep, start plugging one peripheral at a time starting with the video card until one peripheral shorts the whole system then you find out which one is the bad part. Doing this elimination in this exact order shortens your troubleshooting drastically because of the process of elimination instead of making guess work. - I've been a pc tech in my previous life and I do this as a hobby now, and this process never fails.
I like those green PSU cables with the jury rigged PSU. It's like some kind of mutated experiment, lol.
14:04 LOL..I have never seen a graphics card sag that much. It looks hilarious!
A success and thank you for fixing that GPU sag. That was making me twitch. The GPU in my system really doesn't need a support, but I put one in anyway (tower style that also hides the power cables). This also gives me something to suggest to others to check if they have this issue.
Excellent sluethyness! Love the graphics card support bracket. Well done! Nice haircut too ;)
Been waiting for the next video to come out. Time to enjoy 🙌💯
Amazing learning man.. You are great!!
So glad you put that GPU support bracket in.
Throws me back to when I misplugged my FireWire header into my USB 2.0 header on my 1366 build. The FireWire hub went in sparks but every other component worked for years after!
Great Vid, Greg. Nicely done.
I had a similar issue in one of my builds, turns out I had front panel connectors reversed or upside down, can’t remember. Great vid as usual. Glad u fixed that sag!
I love this series, I learn a lot of things I did not know.
I've gotten in the habit of just unplugging/plugging in, everything in the case, whenever I have a post problem. All drives, cables, re-seat the memory (just the 1st one, and then each other one, on their own), unplug/re-seat motherboard connections. I've had some issues when I was trying to plug in the front panel on a case, before, with power on the motherboard on some older boards that weren't labeled, properly, and I was just sort of plugging in things where they would fit (I know, not a good practice and not something I would do with current equipment).
It's a shame that you couldn't find the culprit but nice, that you were able to get the PC running, again.
Good job on the fix and man the sigh of relief after you cable managed the pc.. and also when u found the problem and fixed it xD
Loving this series. I can use this info in the future in case I have the same issue.
Thank u very much for the video Greg! Greetings from Argentina!
i dont even know shit abt pc builds or whatever bc im not a tech-y person but this series is so nice to watch ive been binging this (and pcdc) since the other night
Ive had that auto power off issue, but it's has been halfway through loading windows, and I figured an update had gone bad, until I found out the PC owner had cleaned out the computer with a compressor, and the problem was, that he had blown a lot of the dried thermal paste out between the die, and heat sink, so it would thermal overload very quickly, and shut down. Iv'e had the auto power off issue before post when it was the PSU 12v feed having dropped it's voltage to almost 3v. Ive never seen the plug issue, this video was very informative thank you.
What did we learn today about troubleshooting hardware? ALWAYS disconnect ALL cables and peripherals and just reconnect the ones you really need to test the system. Then reconnect cables one by one to see if the fault returns. I was a little bit perplexed when I saw you "check the connections" without actually removing everything and reseating all hardware and cables.
Good job solving the issue in the end! :)
Love these videos! very informative
Awesome job on Diagnosing this pc and the problem it was having :)
subscribed because of this series, thank you! :)
man i really like this guy, 10/10 very genuine.