Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S1:E13
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Honestly, I just love getting a tour of other people's gaming PCs.
It tells you a lot about the person when you look at their rig.
@@matasa7463 guess im a compensator then
I learn alot from this type of videos that's for sure
Same! Same.....
It's like MTV cribs for PCs
Many years ago I did this for a living. You did everything right. Eliminate the variables, swap out with known good parts. Don't beat yourself up, at the end the pc is functional when it started not functional. Great series. I enjoy watching.
@@TheFalseShepphard lmao
@@metaldiceman
r/whoosh
I find it refreshing to see a youtuber willing to go through the troubleshooting process in front of us relatively unedited. And the fact that you mostly keep your cool even when visibly upset is a high bar for the rest of us. Well done!
I appreciate that, Andrew!
I've been fixing PCs for 25+ years and I've seen this sort of problem a number of times in custom builds, I found it usually comes down to, not too much pressure as a whole, but uneven pressure on the HS. One side or corner is pressing down harder than the rest and so just slightly pushes one side or edge of the cpu down, raising the other side only a tiny amount, but just enough to cause issues. That's why when I now build a system I always make sure I turn the mounting screws the exact same number of times to ensure this doesn't happen. It can also happen with the other type of mount where you only have to twist it a set amount, sometimes they aren't completely turned fully into place, causing the same issue.
Yes. Uneven pressure can be a killer.
For all we know it could've just been dust in the socket. who knows.
@@AeroTGaming Or in the CPU power connctor
@@hyperboreaa you made me do it. It's connector lol.
Necroposting but when I built my first pc (after I bricked an old mobo by flashing bios) I had this issue. I didn't have pressure on the HS even or strong enough and it just wouldn't turn on at all. I removed HS and then placed it on again and it worked. Funny how it can be that simple
This is why I love technology, nothing ever simple and always manages too throw up so many surprises and headaches. Great video fella as always 👍
It makes it even sweeter when the problem is simple for once because with time you just expect “something”.
Who needs simple when complex is more fun. TBH I don't like it when I can just tell what is wrong with things
@@YukiMystic agreed! doing repairs for a living now after school sometimes I just want things to be simple after a long day or two out the month. I still love what I do!
i see i have a fellow psychopath
Broken technics? Disassemble the hardware and reassemble it. Fixed. 👻
A great way to start the day is with a healthy dose of Salazar.
:-D
starting your day in Russian?
@@bitbubz Taiwan
ending my day
@@armanalborzi4596 same lol
This was amazing. Your "mistakes" were probably the exact same "mistakes" that us viewers would make when troubleshooting, so it's a really good representation of what we might go through!
Greg, this is extremely instructive for first time PC builders who frequently second guess themselves when they believe that they have followed the correct procedure and don't get the expected result. It goes to show that retracing the steps again may sometimes correct the slight problem that has caused the error. Great video, and you should not feel stupid in any way.
Man, what a crazy thing. I've heard of, "Have you turned it off and then back on?" or "Have you cleared the CMOS?" but now you need to add a new adage to your repertoire, "Have you tried taking out the CPU and putting it back in?"
My only guess is mounting pressure. Considering how much thermal paste was on the CPU and the fact that it wasn't squished down around it makes me wonder if he just applied it too thick and then when he put the cooler on, it didn't spread out as it should have. Great content.
I agree with this because that paste was awful and looked extra thick thick. I assumed dead cpu as soon as i seen the paste thinking it overheated and died haha.
@@TizzUmEightyHD most likely that was the inculded stock paste. in a way thicker paste is not horrible as stock gpu paste is quite thick. but which the price of this cpu cooler it is probably not great quaility . normally with enough mounting preasure you cant really put to much to cause an issue and it should just squish out but anything is possible. but with what it takes to cool a 2600 I doubt it overheated even with bad paste on this cooler. I have instealled this exact cooler and to much mounting preasure is defintely possible though so maybe it was that.
Pretty much.. I'd also include the possibility that the motherboard might be defective after all, even if it posted with Greg's cpu, and the same problem might turn up again down the road. Lighting up peripheral leds (the cpu fan in this instance) out of the blue without powering up the system is still not normal.
The fact the rgb came on the cpu cooler I initially thought of it being the cooler itself…obviously it was mounting pressure I wouldn’t have thought the cpu was dead ESPECIALLY after cleaning it off and checking the pins..
@@NiC707 yep, that's ASRock... Had three with that problem.
Best troubleshooting videos are when nothing goes right. Keep it up.. This is real life. I rather watch the entire process when it all goes wrong than an edited perfect execution. I learn much kore from this type of outcome.
EXACTLY!!!! Love that POV man. Had the same thought while watching.
The fact that you took the time to go back and reinstall his CPU back in his PC was great. Well first just testing it in another PC was good to see but the fact that you always go that extra mile even know it means redoing the fresh CPU and AIO install just to confirm what was going on is so great. This is why I love this series! It always helps to have extra hardware when troubleshooting something like this especially the same exact CPU. This issue had you all over the place. Lol.
I’m wondering if the mounting pressure was uneven. Perhaps one side was screwed down tighter causing the CPU to lift from the socket on the other side?
As Graham Lord from AdamantIT says (and is correct) "it's never the CPU...till it is".....which is an EXTREME rarity indeed, nice work.
One of my favorite channels. I love how he tackles problems.
"Lets inject power"
CPU rarely broke down, tech yes city said that too. But when it does, applying more voltage to CPU can help with stability.
Hence why so many seller of used CPU would put 1year warranty on it most of the time
Graham's exact saying is:
"It's never the CPU...except when it is...
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But it's never the CPU...
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Except when it is..."
Cracks me up every time! :D
I had the same experience with my friend's FX 8350 machine. It was completely dead, and all I did was take the CPU out, blow into the socket, reinstall and VIOLA. Perhaps it was something as simple as a hair in the socket, I'm still not sure myself.
Yes, a similar thing happened to me once when i had an i5 3470, i cleaned the PC and the hair fell into the socket and didn't want to turn on, when i took out the CPU and removed the hair and reassembled everything PC worked fine.
I had the same thing with a 8350, swapped it out for a 6350 and it worked, putting the other machine back together (so I didnt lose anything) and the 8350 worked in the other MB, swapped it back and it worked( sevweral hours of trouble shooting in between) that was in 2014, both machines are long gone, to this day I dont know why it didnt work the first time.
Ah, the old Nintendo fix!
Yeah, a lot of times dust or dirt will get onto the motherboard and fall in between the cracks which affects that connection. I have definitely seen a couple computers in my lifetime that were ruled as ''broken'' just because of this. I've had a similar experience inside of the past aswell.
Yeah there is no telling what kind of debris could have been in the socket shorting something out this happened to me with my 3900x well something similar and all I did was pop it out and ended up putting it back in and it worked. Weird thing is my motherboard was throwing a vga led on the Dr Mos board leds.
I love that you make the same mistakes we all do when troubleshooting and that you keep them in the videos rather than edit them out, perfect examples are installing GPU before connecting front panel IO and at the end of this video when the CPU is fine. I'm so glad I found this channel, so wholesome.
I love how Greg's expression just goes into 'Error' when the CPU works in his B450.
love the series i can watch these for hours
Wow, I appreciate that!
me too!! this and the PCDC series are what I looking foward the most in UA-cam
This brings back memories when I was working in this tech support line. Hours spent troubleshooting and after thinking we identified and solved it, the "supposedly" broken part worked just *fine*. Plugged everything back and it works. My colleagues and I would look at each other, get confused and just laugh, and chalk it to one of those "ghosts in the system"
I really liked the fact that you didn't hide the wrong troubleshoot, just as I would happen to any of us. Excellent job as always Mr. Salazar. You earned your like once more👍
Dude this was awesome, easily one of my favorite episodes out of the entire batch. These are the type of videos I really wanna see: raw, unedited, exhauative, suspenseful. When you think you know what's up but then you actually don't so it takes all of us on a wacky rollercoaster. This is real life. Heck, I was so invested that I even started having a "conversation" with you through the screen, debating with you on whether if it was the motherboard, maybe the CPU, hell maybe even nothing at all! Good stuff, looking forward to more of this!
Respect man, for keeping all that in the video, you're a 10/10 channel
If this was a murder mystery the CPU would be my last suspect, unless it was overclocked by Linus.
Or dropped by Linus.
@@andrews.9286 Or looked at by Linus
@@AndrewWoodford or around linus
Or you whispered "linus" near it
This is insanely satisfying, I'm not even joking.
The fact that you always double doubt things and parts and try them on other systems and builds to only find that (in this case) the CPU is actually working perfectly proves that it really could be anything.
This definitely makes me so comfortable to build a PC without the fear of what if I get no post or why isn't it booting or even not working at all.
Greg you're awesome and original.
Keep it up, buddy!
This is one of my favorite videos of yours. I really enjoy the journey you took figuring out what was wrong. I appreciate you not cutting out any of your mistakes. Nice job.
To be 100% honest, this exact same thing happened to my friend and I while building his system. Took us 6 months and $150 but we reseated his CPU when I got fed up and scorched earth the build.
Sometimes it's best to take everything apart and test it on a bench.
Quirky issues like this are always a pain in the ass to diagnose. I've been down this road a time or two myself.
Happened to me today,
brought my brand new pc for warranty because it shuts down randomly, they replaced the psu because it was deemed the suspect and still got the same issue. Tried reformartting twice and got nothing, bios update etc. til I downloaded the latest windows installer which is 21H1 my former was 20H2 and suddenly the shutting off issue was gone. pretty strange that there is a windows version that seems to affect my system.
"It's never the CPU, except when it is", turns out it was the CPU, and then it wasn't...
Love this series! I'm not a very experienced pc builder/user etc, so watching these really help me know what problems can occur with computers. Keep up the great work!!
Watching here from the Philippines! :) You are really doing a great job in troubleshooting steps as we learn on how to rule things out. I also realized that even though we know a lot of things about PC it will sometimes leave us puzzled.
That ending was gold when testing the part(s) you removed lol.
I've been watching your videos for a few months now, Greg and I find your videos informative. You are very skilled and knowledgeable in your craft, also very humble too, it's a rare quality in people these days. Keep up the good work! Subscribed!
I think you should not feel dumb or silly. You applied the most correct approach repairing the PC, you diagnosed it and then made a counter test in order to verify the findings. I see it as the most correct path to detect and solve these issues. I honestly congratulate you because of that. In more than 20 years working with computers (building, repairing and programming) I learned what I think is my zen: "Every single time you make an assumption, chances are that you are wrong". So, always double check your findings. Great job!
Exactly what im looking for to start my day! Its 9:37 am here local time 😁
I find this series much more interesting than the cleaning ones. This episode was very enjoyable to watch. Keep up the good work.
I absolutely adore this series, MISTAKES and all...Very accurate to what the process is like from an industry professional perspective.
Please keep them coming, and never omit the mistakes!!! Thanks again!!
Love the systematic way you go about troubleshooting a broken PC! 👍🏼
Btw, this episode is by far the mother of all plot twists! 😂 minds absolutely blown for sure. Kudos to u for going through the entire process but finally there’s a conclusive answer to it all :) well done mate! 👍🏼
Great video, as always. I wouldn't sweat it Greg, it most likely was the pressure but that doesn't matter. You fixed it and I am sure the owner is very pleased with your hard work. It's awesome to see you're able to learn from these repair videos and be transparent with us viewers. Can't wait for the next one!!
This series is one of my most favorite on UA-cam. Thank you for making such great content!
It was a VERY educational episode for me! I also love this series and cleaning PCs. Thank You Greg 👍
appreciate the transparency in your thought process / actions, makes for a much more interesting watch, cheers.
It was definitely mounting or some small dust blocking any pins.
Nice vid, Greg. Another great example of taking a methodical approach to diagnosis and proper sequence of check-offs in getting there. Well done. 👍
Nice video Greg, please continue this type of videos. I really learn a lot from your videos in troubleshooting a pc!
I get so excited when I see this playlist pop up. so good. learn so much. Thanks greg
I love how that AIO looks. I have the MAG 360R and now I want that one...lol...Great video and really enjoy the series!
What a perplexing fix this time around Greg. Main thing is that the system is working again and you can chalk up another fix. Love the series. Looking forward to the next one.
One of your best vids in my opinion.
I have been confounded by my PC many a time so watching you work through problems is very relatable.
Keep up the good work!
Honestly love your videos! You’re so kind to people and are a great teacher of Pc knowledge. Keep up the great work
Love the series. You shouldn't feel embarrassed. It is all part of the troubleshooting process. Your process reminded me of Carey Holzman and his experiences as a tech in the field. Keep up the great work!
Carey is a great system builder. He has probably seen every issue out there by now.
love this series, wish I have a pc like that
Don't give up then, my friend! I wanted a PC like this my whole life, and last year I was finally able to build one myself (It has the same Ryzen 5 2600 of the video btw, I was like "oh, that's nice" when I saw it) So I really want to tell you that you can do it with some work, don't stop dreaming about it, one day you will get it!
You gotta love computers and their trickery... Love the honesty dude ...great channel great to keep the mind fresh for trouble shooting 👍🏼🙏🏽
No words can describe how much I love this series.
When you said you didn't crop out anything, this shows how genuine this series is and that's what has gotten away from youtube.
Keep it up.
Hats of to you Greg. Learning a lot from this series. :)
Greg, you deserve a pat on the back and a 👍 for a job well done. Don't be so hard on yourself.
Love learning with you bub! 🤗
I could honestly see that exact thing happening to me. The honesty is refreshing. Thanks for the video.
Dude no qualms with how you handled this repair. Excellent to see non typical issues and how you trouble shoot. Love these videos
Don't feel silly. Thanks for showing us that we miss some basic troubleshoot while we are over thinking when something like this happens. I will always keep this tip in my mind.
fantastic fix! really enjoyed watching this one!
I love this series so much. I'm learning something new every day!
I really love your videos! Thank you so much for going through everything step by step and showing us how you troubleshoot
Man, I love these videos. Just goes to show you that even experienced builders can either overlook something or just be completely wrong about what the problem is. Well done, Greg!
Respect for the amount of time and effort you take into all these videos haha, even when the fix isn't always quite what you expect
Dude, you're awesome. Love how you don't shy away from your wrong diagnosis.....love the channel, love the content. 👏
I love how honest your reactions are. You don't edit to make it to seem like you have a magic 8-ball. Love the work.
This stumped me and I'm sure it stumped pretty much everyone else. I've never had an issue like this before and if I hadn't had a spare system to test, I'd label that CPU as defective. Great video as usual.
Great video Greg, you've gained a lot of credibility by just showing it as it is.
Your view on PC's and troubleshooting in general is refreshing. Fix or Flop series has been great.
I really like how you made this video,
You know plenty about fixing PC but technology surprises you. It silly process yet a wonderful experience. For me as a viewer , you shown us that failures should be a learning guide to work more diligently than halting work embarrassingly. Thank yoi for the amazing videos and more power to you!
It’s very possible it was because the processor had to much pressure, my last build was having the same problem and I reinstalled the processor 3 times and now it works like a charm.. I feel like that was my problem to have no clue what else it woulda been. And there’s nothing to be embarrassed about I pulled on all nighters trying to figure out my problem.
I really appreciate this kind of troubleshootings videos.
Great Job
Though this is one weird/unusual issue.
this has become one of my fav channels, always learn something. thanks!!
This is definitely my favorite tech series on youtube! Great job Greg
Oddly, enough these symptoms were exactly what I had in an old rig of mine that was experiencing a short. I'll say the same thing I said then "It's the damnedest thing". Pulled it apart cleaned everything, put it all back in and it worked.
This happened at least 4 times now with my PC. Everytime it's something different, and it just randomly shuts down and doesn't turn on. Once it was mounting pressure, probably from expansion and contraction because I have a hot gpu and gpu. Once it was a dead bug shorting the psu. Litterally 2 days ago it was the 24 pin that came slightly loose and wouldn't allow the PSU to give power to more than LEDs (probably also from expansion and contraction. I see no other way how these parts move on their own). This is all to protect the hardware I am sure. The PSU is making sure that the hardware doesn't get fried from shorts.
Very annoying problem and fixing is just trying random things until the PC boots. It may take 5 minutes or 5 hours depending on your much your luck is on the day.
Loose cpu then travelling back to yours after collecting it from customer could of loosened a loose cpu :-/ Awesome vids as always Greg ✅
I’m very glad you kept in the part of the video where you found out that the cpu works fine. I found it to be a great learning experience. Major take away is to always double check, bc it could save some money. It’s also very respectable that you left it in.
Please keep up the good work. I really enjoy watching your troubleshooting videos! Subscribed and liked!
You've quickly became one of my must watch Tech UA-camrs. You are absolutely KILLING it dude. Keep it up!
I enjoy watching your videos man, please keep it up. I learn a lot from watching you.
Unpredictable!! Love these videos, this is my new tech UA-cam addiction!
Greg this videos teaches me so much. Never thought so many things can cause a PC to go "bad". This is like a major course for me and I learn something new with every episode. Thank your man. This to me is like a master class.
This video is the reason I watch you. You don't act like you're perfect or better than anyone, you're up front and honest. Great video I'm always glad to learn "with" you.
Ahhhhh!!! How did I miss this!! Another amazing episode Greg!
I really enjoyed this video. Thank you for the great trouble shooting video. Hardware can be odd sometimes and you did really great Greg
i love the transparency. another informative episode. thank you greg.
I learned a lot in this video. I'll be adding some of these troubleshooting steps to my bag, thanks Greg.
Greg - I love watching your trouble shooting - I am learning alot - Cheers , keep them coming every PC is different.
Thank you for sharing with us and showing that double checking is worth trying regardless of odds on it working or not. Keep them repairs coming
I love this series, because we can always test what we have learnt from previous episodes and guess what the next troubleshoot step be, before Greg does it! Keep it up man!
Helps alot dawg legit was having a issue with my computer not posting at all cause my gpu was buggin love your vids
I'm learning so much from you Greg from your Fix or Flop series 😊 Keep it up 👍
So this is a very interesting one. I wouldn't have ever thought about the mounting pressure being the issue. Good on you for keeping this whole thing in the video.
All of your steps were correct and never made any assumptions without testing. I did not detect any errors on your part at all. And I believe you are spot on about pressure on the CPU which is to say uneven pressure. Another well done video!
Great content as ever, honestly much better then other bigger tech related channels. Keep it up love your honesty.
I'm kind of glad u found a specific niche . At such a crazy time I'm glad ur still making videos and funding different topics .
this is an awesome learning tool as it shows you what curve balls can happen.. good video Greg. love this series.
This series is amazing! You should do a series of showing off the ppl of Orlando’s pc like grading pc builds live. keep up the great vids!
I’m glad that you show everything. That’s why I enjoy your videos. I’m a retired engineer who used to design this stuff and I have learned a trick or two from you.
Your honesty is what keeps me coming back to your videos. Don't change.
This was good to watch. I use to work as a bench tech years ago and I would've started by using a psu tester. But it's funny that reseating the cpu was the culprit. Good job!
I loved this video, being a computer builder myself, I was very impressed on your honesty in the diagnosing of this PC. You could have edited this video to make yourself look like you diagnosed it properly right away. New sub here.