I've been fixing PCs for 25+ years and I've seen this sort of problem a number of times in custom builds, I found it usually comes down to, not too much pressure as a whole, but uneven pressure on the HS. One side or corner is pressing down harder than the rest and so just slightly pushes one side or edge of the cpu down, raising the other side only a tiny amount, but just enough to cause issues. That's why when I now build a system I always make sure I turn the mounting screws the exact same number of times to ensure this doesn't happen. It can also happen with the other type of mount where you only have to twist it a set amount, sometimes they aren't completely turned fully into place, causing the same issue.
Necroposting but when I built my first pc (after I bricked an old mobo by flashing bios) I had this issue. I didn't have pressure on the HS even or strong enough and it just wouldn't turn on at all. I removed HS and then placed it on again and it worked. Funny how it can be that simple
@@YukiMystic agreed! doing repairs for a living now after school sometimes I just want things to be simple after a long day or two out the month. I still love what I do!
I find it refreshing to see a youtuber willing to go through the troubleshooting process in front of us relatively unedited. And the fact that you mostly keep your cool even when visibly upset is a high bar for the rest of us. Well done!
Many years ago I did this for a living. You did everything right. Eliminate the variables, swap out with known good parts. Don't beat yourself up, at the end the pc is functional when it started not functional. Great series. I enjoy watching.
This was amazing. Your "mistakes" were probably the exact same "mistakes" that us viewers would make when troubleshooting, so it's a really good representation of what we might go through!
Don't be embarrassed. This video is a great example of a real world scenario where it turns out to be something totally random. Not every problem fits into a nice neat little box. When faced with weird things like this I try to learn from it and it's another thing to look for / try when troubleshooting.
Man, what a crazy thing. I've heard of, "Have you turned it off and then back on?" or "Have you cleared the CMOS?" but now you need to add a new adage to your repertoire, "Have you tried taking out the CPU and putting it back in?" My only guess is mounting pressure. Considering how much thermal paste was on the CPU and the fact that it wasn't squished down around it makes me wonder if he just applied it too thick and then when he put the cooler on, it didn't spread out as it should have. Great content.
I agree with this because that paste was awful and looked extra thick thick. I assumed dead cpu as soon as i seen the paste thinking it overheated and died haha.
@@HDTizzUm most likely that was the inculded stock paste. in a way thicker paste is not horrible as stock gpu paste is quite thick. but which the price of this cpu cooler it is probably not great quaility . normally with enough mounting preasure you cant really put to much to cause an issue and it should just squish out but anything is possible. but with what it takes to cool a 2600 I doubt it overheated even with bad paste on this cooler. I have instealled this exact cooler and to much mounting preasure is defintely possible though so maybe it was that.
Pretty much.. I'd also include the possibility that the motherboard might be defective after all, even if it posted with Greg's cpu, and the same problem might turn up again down the road. Lighting up peripheral leds (the cpu fan in this instance) out of the blue without powering up the system is still not normal.
The fact the rgb came on the cpu cooler I initially thought of it being the cooler itself…obviously it was mounting pressure I wouldn’t have thought the cpu was dead ESPECIALLY after cleaning it off and checking the pins..
bro you did fine, not stupid, it also show that this pc is a legit need fixing and not people trying to get broken part replaced a new one. ive learned something new from this video.
Best troubleshooting videos are when nothing goes right. Keep it up.. This is real life. I rather watch the entire process when it all goes wrong than an edited perfect execution. I learn much kore from this type of outcome.
The fact that you took the time to go back and reinstall his CPU back in his PC was great. Well first just testing it in another PC was good to see but the fact that you always go that extra mile even know it means redoing the fresh CPU and AIO install just to confirm what was going on is so great. This is why I love this series! It always helps to have extra hardware when troubleshooting something like this especially the same exact CPU. This issue had you all over the place. Lol.
CPU rarely broke down, tech yes city said that too. But when it does, applying more voltage to CPU can help with stability. Hence why so many seller of used CPU would put 1year warranty on it most of the time
Graham's exact saying is: "It's never the CPU...except when it is... ... But it's never the CPU... ... ... Except when it is..." Cracks me up every time! :D
I had the same experience with my friend's FX 8350 machine. It was completely dead, and all I did was take the CPU out, blow into the socket, reinstall and VIOLA. Perhaps it was something as simple as a hair in the socket, I'm still not sure myself.
Yes, a similar thing happened to me once when i had an i5 3470, i cleaned the PC and the hair fell into the socket and didn't want to turn on, when i took out the CPU and removed the hair and reassembled everything PC worked fine.
I had the same thing with a 8350, swapped it out for a 6350 and it worked, putting the other machine back together (so I didnt lose anything) and the 8350 worked in the other MB, swapped it back and it worked( sevweral hours of trouble shooting in between) that was in 2014, both machines are long gone, to this day I dont know why it didnt work the first time.
Yeah, a lot of times dust or dirt will get onto the motherboard and fall in between the cracks which affects that connection. I have definitely seen a couple computers in my lifetime that were ruled as ''broken'' just because of this. I've had a similar experience inside of the past aswell.
Yeah there is no telling what kind of debris could have been in the socket shorting something out this happened to me with my 3900x well something similar and all I did was pop it out and ended up putting it back in and it worked. Weird thing is my motherboard was throwing a vga led on the Dr Mos board leds.
I love that you make the same mistakes we all do when troubleshooting and that you keep them in the videos rather than edit them out, perfect examples are installing GPU before connecting front panel IO and at the end of this video when the CPU is fine. I'm so glad I found this channel, so wholesome.
This brings back memories when I was working in this tech support line. Hours spent troubleshooting and after thinking we identified and solved it, the "supposedly" broken part worked just *fine*. Plugged everything back and it works. My colleagues and I would look at each other, get confused and just laugh, and chalk it to one of those "ghosts in the system"
I’m wondering if the mounting pressure was uneven. Perhaps one side was screwed down tighter causing the CPU to lift from the socket on the other side?
No words can describe how much I love this series. When you said you didn't crop out anything, this shows how genuine this series is and that's what has gotten away from youtube. Keep it up.
Watching here from the Philippines! :) You are really doing a great job in troubleshooting steps as we learn on how to rule things out. I also realized that even though we know a lot of things about PC it will sometimes leave us puzzled.
This video is the reason I watch you. You don't act like you're perfect or better than anyone, you're up front and honest. Great video I'm always glad to learn "with" you.
Great video, as always. I wouldn't sweat it Greg, it most likely was the pressure but that doesn't matter. You fixed it and I am sure the owner is very pleased with your hard work. It's awesome to see you're able to learn from these repair videos and be transparent with us viewers. Can't wait for the next one!!
I really liked the fact that you didn't hide the wrong troubleshoot, just as I would happen to any of us. Excellent job as always Mr. Salazar. You earned your like once more👍
I think you should not feel dumb or silly. You applied the most correct approach repairing the PC, you diagnosed it and then made a counter test in order to verify the findings. I see it as the most correct path to detect and solve these issues. I honestly congratulate you because of that. In more than 20 years working with computers (building, repairing and programming) I learned what I think is my zen: "Every single time you make an assumption, chances are that you are wrong". So, always double check your findings. Great job!
This is insanely satisfying, I'm not even joking. The fact that you always double doubt things and parts and try them on other systems and builds to only find that (in this case) the CPU is actually working perfectly proves that it really could be anything. This definitely makes me so comfortable to build a PC without the fear of what if I get no post or why isn't it booting or even not working at all. Greg you're awesome and original. Keep it up, buddy!
Happened to me today, brought my brand new pc for warranty because it shuts down randomly, they replaced the psu because it was deemed the suspect and still got the same issue. Tried reformartting twice and got nothing, bios update etc. til I downloaded the latest windows installer which is 21H1 my former was 20H2 and suddenly the shutting off issue was gone. pretty strange that there is a windows version that seems to affect my system.
All of your steps were correct and never made any assumptions without testing. I did not detect any errors on your part at all. And I believe you are spot on about pressure on the CPU which is to say uneven pressure. Another well done video!
Do not feel stupid Greg! You chose the bad part right off with changing the cpu cooler. I work on computers for a living and this kind of thing happens from time to time. People don't really understand and its hard to explain. So you have made the perfect video subconsciously!
To be 100% honest, this exact same thing happened to my friend and I while building his system. Took us 6 months and $150 but we reseated his CPU when I got fed up and scorched earth the build.
Don't give up then, my friend! I wanted a PC like this my whole life, and last year I was finally able to build one myself (It has the same Ryzen 5 2600 of the video btw, I was like "oh, that's nice" when I saw it) So I really want to tell you that you can do it with some work, don't stop dreaming about it, one day you will get it!
I really like how you made this video, You know plenty about fixing PC but technology surprises you. It silly process yet a wonderful experience. For me as a viewer , you shown us that failures should be a learning guide to work more diligently than halting work embarrassingly. Thank yoi for the amazing videos and more power to you!
I know this is an old video but dont beat yourself up Greg. Like you said we all learn together. I have watched every single fix or flop video. Really enjoy this content
Don't feel silly. Thanks for showing us that we miss some basic troubleshoot while we are over thinking when something like this happens. I will always keep this tip in my mind.
I am not sure if the original thought process was somewhat telepathic, but the fact that you went in with the plan of changing the cooling system, and BANG! Solved and done... Glad you went through all the system checks, as I understand they are mostly just for us viewers. But you might want to sit down with a piece of paper, and jot down the first 6 numbers that come to mind and head out to the Lotto shop!! Be sure to let us know if you hit it big before you sign off and go on your world tour....
Another educational video for PC enthusiasts who may just give up on their PC. I am from the UK and we give honours for services to industry like a Knighthood, OBE, MBE and so on. You definitely deserve a Knighthood for services to the PC fix or flop and PCDC industry. keep them coming.
Man, I love these videos. Just goes to show you that even experienced builders can either overlook something or just be completely wrong about what the problem is. Well done, Greg!
I’m glad that you show everything. That’s why I enjoy your videos. I’m a retired engineer who used to design this stuff and I have learned a trick or two from you.
Honestly, you didnt have to do much, but this gives a nice perspective on how seemingly small issues can cause big problems for a rig. Love the videos man
Love the series. You shouldn't feel embarrassed. It is all part of the troubleshooting process. Your process reminded me of Carey Holzman and his experiences as a tech in the field. Keep up the great work!
I am an Electrical Engineer over many years.... Fighter Aircraft, Commerical Electrical Systems and Telephone Exchange Systems..... They have all pulled my pants down when I was certain about the fault. Some were crazy.... Enjoy your videos.... Keep putting your neck on the line.
It’s very possible it was because the processor had to much pressure, my last build was having the same problem and I reinstalled the processor 3 times and now it works like a charm.. I feel like that was my problem to have no clue what else it woulda been. And there’s nothing to be embarrassed about I pulled on all nighters trying to figure out my problem.
no need to feel silly at all. this is exactly the process for troubleshooting. These videos are a great refresher for me. I used to love to build and fix PCs, but i've been working on software for so long now, I've forgotten the fun of hardware troubleshooting. I'm building a new PC this week and finally getting rid of my gaming laptop, so its good to get a little refresher course on hardware troubleshooting and cable management.
at 10:00 you can see some pins have different color than other pins and it's not the light angle because they are mixed. it might be oxidation and removing the cpu and putting it back in took care of that. that's a pretty good thing to look for also in memory and GPU contact pins. i've encountered a couple of memory sticks that were pretty bad.
Oddly, enough these symptoms were exactly what I had in an old rig of mine that was experiencing a short. I'll say the same thing I said then "It's the damnedest thing". Pulled it apart cleaned everything, put it all back in and it worked.
This happened at least 4 times now with my PC. Everytime it's something different, and it just randomly shuts down and doesn't turn on. Once it was mounting pressure, probably from expansion and contraction because I have a hot gpu and gpu. Once it was a dead bug shorting the psu. Litterally 2 days ago it was the 24 pin that came slightly loose and wouldn't allow the PSU to give power to more than LEDs (probably also from expansion and contraction. I see no other way how these parts move on their own). This is all to protect the hardware I am sure. The PSU is making sure that the hardware doesn't get fried from shorts. Very annoying problem and fixing is just trying random things until the PC boots. It may take 5 minutes or 5 hours depending on your much your luck is on the day.
I'm so glad I'm not the only one this has happened to. It happened once when I built a rig for a friend and left me scratching my head for hours trying to figure out why the system wouldn't power on until I lifted the board up by the cooler to check the back for shorts and it turned on in my hand.
Ive heard that systems don't boot if the CPU fan header on the motherboard isn't populated. Maybe the cable of the CPU cooler fan was somehow dead and the motherboard didn't detect any cooler?
Computers have minds of their own sometimes and I'm talking from alot of pc repair experience. Man, it is what it is and sometimes the fixes don't really makes sense but whatever works, works.
Really appreciate your honesty and not editing out anything to make yourself look perfect. We as technicians make lots of mistakes, the difference is how we claim them. I have seen some situations where the tech breaks something and blames the customer, preying on their ignorance. One of the major aspects of being a tech is to help people. To do otherwise is to shoot yourself in the foot imo. Like a shady mechanic, word gets around and no one comes back. Cudos to you sir, a true gentleman and a scholar as they say.
I absolutely adore this series, MISTAKES and all...Very accurate to what the process is like from an industry professional perspective. Please keep them coming, and never omit the mistakes!!! Thanks again!!
I worked 20 years repairing computers. You did all that needed to be done. Good work. Have you thought about static electricity? Sometimes just unplugging several parts can discharge the static electricity stuck in the electronic chips. It has happened to me sometimes.
@Greg I also had cooler overtightened. Same thing happened. Had power but no boot. Reseated cpu and tightened cooler's screws back with less pressure and it worked! My heart attack went away eventually. 😜
One of your best vids in my opinion. I have been confounded by my PC many a time so watching you work through problems is very relatable. Keep up the good work!
So this is a very interesting one. I wouldn't have ever thought about the mounting pressure being the issue. Good on you for keeping this whole thing in the video.
Greg, it is simply the destiny this PC needed to travel to you and got fixed by the touch of your hand!! Magic, and seriously, it is like watching 23 minutes of drama, just when you thought thing was settled for the conclusion, boom! there was the twist - and I really enjoyed it!
Greg this videos teaches me so much. Never thought so many things can cause a PC to go "bad". This is like a major course for me and I learn something new with every episode. Thank your man. This to me is like a master class.
Look at it this way, these videos are learning videos, and now we all learned something new from it. That is a win in my book. Great job Greg! Just a neighbor in St.Augustine. :)
Such a small thing, but I agree about that era MSI card. The heat pipe design looks really good. Just gave my old PC with the same 1080 a good clean and really found myself admiring those puppies.
I’m currently a sophomore in high school and plan on becoming an IT because I enjoy technology and the building process of it so much and these videos are 100% the way to go if you want to learn even more
At the end of the video: you shouldn't feel stupid. You did all the right steps, I'm with you! CPU just needed reseating, could have been some dust blocking contact (unlikely) or too much mounting pressure. Great work!
I’ve been loving both PCDC and Fix or Flop. Maybe the next series you should do a combination of both. Where you try to deep clean and fix a broken and dirty gaming pc. Those types of videos are always the most satisfying.
There's no reason to feel "silly" etc... as a matter of fact, the entire "learning process" is what these should be about. Sometimes (sometimes) it's just the way it goes. thanks for keeping it honest and real...
The only think I can think of with this one was that there was a piece of "gunk" that was in on of the pin slots on the CPU socket for the motherboard... and when you used the duster you dislodged it, and every pin was able to get electricity again, and then it was working... baffling! I love the process though, very nice to see how other people will trouble shoot problems with a computer!
This is one of my favorite videos of yours. I really enjoy the journey you took figuring out what was wrong. I appreciate you not cutting out any of your mistakes. Nice job.
I've had loose cables refuse to boot my system, cpu coolers with backplates that add too much pressure when overly tightened creating issues with ram detection, a physically damaged south bridge that still booted and worked so long as the system was not ever powered off completely otherwise getting it to turn on was just hell, I love seeing these fix em up videos XD
I love the playlist...that said whether or not the system was sent to you with the request of a deep clean you should still depp clean them for the "client". Many wouldnt know how to deep clean or even when to... Awesome work your doing just thought that should be said.
Hi Greg, great job trouble shooting :) One suggestion; The AIO waterblock you mounted, it's 180 degrees off. The hoses should be toward the RAM, with the vents toward the VRM heat sinks for the active cooling to work, and for the LCD to display right-side-up :)
To be honest, I am a IT tech myself and I am pretty capable of debugging such problems myself. However, it is always good to see such strange problems with other systems. That helps in trying to find the problem faster as it increases the list of possible causes.
Thing is, Corsair warns ( with their PSU's ) That: From time to time a 3rd party 24 pin cable mod. cable assembly, can and will cause a: "Undesirable" power on/up effect. And by you simply moving the viewers 24 pin cable mod. And re-routing it through another access portal into the case, May have been the culprit. So in short, You did what anybody else would have done, simply by doing a process of elimination just as you did, And quite successfully, I may add. Dont beat yourself up, You did great. And once again you fixed a viewers PC as well as a nice upgrade. Thanks for making these video's for all of us to see.
Honestly, I just love getting a tour of other people's gaming PCs.
It tells you a lot about the person when you look at their rig.
@@matasa7463 guess im a compensator then
I learn alot from this type of videos that's for sure
Same! Same.....
It's like MTV cribs for PCs
I've been fixing PCs for 25+ years and I've seen this sort of problem a number of times in custom builds, I found it usually comes down to, not too much pressure as a whole, but uneven pressure on the HS. One side or corner is pressing down harder than the rest and so just slightly pushes one side or edge of the cpu down, raising the other side only a tiny amount, but just enough to cause issues. That's why when I now build a system I always make sure I turn the mounting screws the exact same number of times to ensure this doesn't happen. It can also happen with the other type of mount where you only have to twist it a set amount, sometimes they aren't completely turned fully into place, causing the same issue.
Yes. Uneven pressure can be a killer.
For all we know it could've just been dust in the socket. who knows.
@@AeroTGaming Or in the CPU power connctor
@@hyperboreaa you made me do it. It's connector lol.
Necroposting but when I built my first pc (after I bricked an old mobo by flashing bios) I had this issue. I didn't have pressure on the HS even or strong enough and it just wouldn't turn on at all. I removed HS and then placed it on again and it worked. Funny how it can be that simple
This is why I love technology, nothing ever simple and always manages too throw up so many surprises and headaches. Great video fella as always 👍
It makes it even sweeter when the problem is simple for once because with time you just expect “something”.
Who needs simple when complex is more fun. TBH I don't like it when I can just tell what is wrong with things
@@YukiMystic agreed! doing repairs for a living now after school sometimes I just want things to be simple after a long day or two out the month. I still love what I do!
i see i have a fellow psychopath
Broken technics? Disassemble the hardware and reassemble it. Fixed. 👻
I find it refreshing to see a youtuber willing to go through the troubleshooting process in front of us relatively unedited. And the fact that you mostly keep your cool even when visibly upset is a high bar for the rest of us. Well done!
I appreciate that, Andrew!
Many years ago I did this for a living. You did everything right. Eliminate the variables, swap out with known good parts. Don't beat yourself up, at the end the pc is functional when it started not functional. Great series. I enjoy watching.
@@TheFalseShepphard lmao
@@metaldiceman
r/whoosh
This was amazing. Your "mistakes" were probably the exact same "mistakes" that us viewers would make when troubleshooting, so it's a really good representation of what we might go through!
A great way to start the day is with a healthy dose of Salazar.
:-D
starting your day in Russian?
@@bitbubz Taiwan
ending my day
@@armanalborzi4596 same lol
Don't be embarrassed. This video is a great example of a real world scenario where it turns out to be something totally random. Not every problem fits into a nice neat little box.
When faced with weird things like this I try to learn from it and it's another thing to look for / try when troubleshooting.
Man, what a crazy thing. I've heard of, "Have you turned it off and then back on?" or "Have you cleared the CMOS?" but now you need to add a new adage to your repertoire, "Have you tried taking out the CPU and putting it back in?"
My only guess is mounting pressure. Considering how much thermal paste was on the CPU and the fact that it wasn't squished down around it makes me wonder if he just applied it too thick and then when he put the cooler on, it didn't spread out as it should have. Great content.
I agree with this because that paste was awful and looked extra thick thick. I assumed dead cpu as soon as i seen the paste thinking it overheated and died haha.
@@HDTizzUm most likely that was the inculded stock paste. in a way thicker paste is not horrible as stock gpu paste is quite thick. but which the price of this cpu cooler it is probably not great quaility . normally with enough mounting preasure you cant really put to much to cause an issue and it should just squish out but anything is possible. but with what it takes to cool a 2600 I doubt it overheated even with bad paste on this cooler. I have instealled this exact cooler and to much mounting preasure is defintely possible though so maybe it was that.
Pretty much.. I'd also include the possibility that the motherboard might be defective after all, even if it posted with Greg's cpu, and the same problem might turn up again down the road. Lighting up peripheral leds (the cpu fan in this instance) out of the blue without powering up the system is still not normal.
The fact the rgb came on the cpu cooler I initially thought of it being the cooler itself…obviously it was mounting pressure I wouldn’t have thought the cpu was dead ESPECIALLY after cleaning it off and checking the pins..
@@NiC707 yep, that's ASRock... Had three with that problem.
bro you did fine, not stupid, it also show that this pc is a legit need fixing and not people trying to get broken part replaced a new one. ive learned something new from this video.
Best troubleshooting videos are when nothing goes right. Keep it up.. This is real life. I rather watch the entire process when it all goes wrong than an edited perfect execution. I learn much kore from this type of outcome.
EXACTLY!!!! Love that POV man. Had the same thought while watching.
Your honesty is what keeps me coming back to your videos. Don't change.
love the series i can watch these for hours
Wow, I appreciate that!
me too!! this and the PCDC series are what I looking foward the most in UA-cam
The fact that you took the time to go back and reinstall his CPU back in his PC was great. Well first just testing it in another PC was good to see but the fact that you always go that extra mile even know it means redoing the fresh CPU and AIO install just to confirm what was going on is so great. This is why I love this series! It always helps to have extra hardware when troubleshooting something like this especially the same exact CPU. This issue had you all over the place. Lol.
As Graham Lord from AdamantIT says (and is correct) "it's never the CPU...till it is".....which is an EXTREME rarity indeed, nice work.
One of my favorite channels. I love how he tackles problems.
"Lets inject power"
CPU rarely broke down, tech yes city said that too. But when it does, applying more voltage to CPU can help with stability.
Hence why so many seller of used CPU would put 1year warranty on it most of the time
Graham's exact saying is:
"It's never the CPU...except when it is...
...
But it's never the CPU...
...
...
Except when it is..."
Cracks me up every time! :D
Dude, I'm binge watching this playlist for hours now.
I had the same experience with my friend's FX 8350 machine. It was completely dead, and all I did was take the CPU out, blow into the socket, reinstall and VIOLA. Perhaps it was something as simple as a hair in the socket, I'm still not sure myself.
Yes, a similar thing happened to me once when i had an i5 3470, i cleaned the PC and the hair fell into the socket and didn't want to turn on, when i took out the CPU and removed the hair and reassembled everything PC worked fine.
I had the same thing with a 8350, swapped it out for a 6350 and it worked, putting the other machine back together (so I didnt lose anything) and the 8350 worked in the other MB, swapped it back and it worked( sevweral hours of trouble shooting in between) that was in 2014, both machines are long gone, to this day I dont know why it didnt work the first time.
Ah, the old Nintendo fix!
Yeah, a lot of times dust or dirt will get onto the motherboard and fall in between the cracks which affects that connection. I have definitely seen a couple computers in my lifetime that were ruled as ''broken'' just because of this. I've had a similar experience inside of the past aswell.
Yeah there is no telling what kind of debris could have been in the socket shorting something out this happened to me with my 3900x well something similar and all I did was pop it out and ended up putting it back in and it worked. Weird thing is my motherboard was throwing a vga led on the Dr Mos board leds.
I love that you make the same mistakes we all do when troubleshooting and that you keep them in the videos rather than edit them out, perfect examples are installing GPU before connecting front panel IO and at the end of this video when the CPU is fine. I'm so glad I found this channel, so wholesome.
This brings back memories when I was working in this tech support line. Hours spent troubleshooting and after thinking we identified and solved it, the "supposedly" broken part worked just *fine*. Plugged everything back and it works. My colleagues and I would look at each other, get confused and just laugh, and chalk it to one of those "ghosts in the system"
I’m wondering if the mounting pressure was uneven. Perhaps one side was screwed down tighter causing the CPU to lift from the socket on the other side?
Respect man, for keeping all that in the video, you're a 10/10 channel
No words can describe how much I love this series.
When you said you didn't crop out anything, this shows how genuine this series is and that's what has gotten away from youtube.
Keep it up.
Watching here from the Philippines! :) You are really doing a great job in troubleshooting steps as we learn on how to rule things out. I also realized that even though we know a lot of things about PC it will sometimes leave us puzzled.
This video is the reason I watch you. You don't act like you're perfect or better than anyone, you're up front and honest. Great video I'm always glad to learn "with" you.
Great video, as always. I wouldn't sweat it Greg, it most likely was the pressure but that doesn't matter. You fixed it and I am sure the owner is very pleased with your hard work. It's awesome to see you're able to learn from these repair videos and be transparent with us viewers. Can't wait for the next one!!
I love how Greg's expression just goes into 'Error' when the CPU works in his B450.
I love how that AIO looks. I have the MAG 360R and now I want that one...lol...Great video and really enjoy the series!
I really liked the fact that you didn't hide the wrong troubleshoot, just as I would happen to any of us. Excellent job as always Mr. Salazar. You earned your like once more👍
I find this series much more interesting than the cleaning ones. This episode was very enjoyable to watch. Keep up the good work.
I think you should not feel dumb or silly. You applied the most correct approach repairing the PC, you diagnosed it and then made a counter test in order to verify the findings. I see it as the most correct path to detect and solve these issues. I honestly congratulate you because of that. In more than 20 years working with computers (building, repairing and programming) I learned what I think is my zen: "Every single time you make an assumption, chances are that you are wrong". So, always double check your findings. Great job!
Greg, you deserve a pat on the back and a 👍 for a job well done. Don't be so hard on yourself.
Love learning with you bub! 🤗
I love the fact that you didn’t edit the video and make it seem like you knew the problem all along, kudos to you, that’s why I love your channel.
This series is one of my most favorite on UA-cam. Thank you for making such great content!
This is insanely satisfying, I'm not even joking.
The fact that you always double doubt things and parts and try them on other systems and builds to only find that (in this case) the CPU is actually working perfectly proves that it really could be anything.
This definitely makes me so comfortable to build a PC without the fear of what if I get no post or why isn't it booting or even not working at all.
Greg you're awesome and original.
Keep it up, buddy!
Quirky issues like this are always a pain in the ass to diagnose. I've been down this road a time or two myself.
Happened to me today,
brought my brand new pc for warranty because it shuts down randomly, they replaced the psu because it was deemed the suspect and still got the same issue. Tried reformartting twice and got nothing, bios update etc. til I downloaded the latest windows installer which is 21H1 my former was 20H2 and suddenly the shutting off issue was gone. pretty strange that there is a windows version that seems to affect my system.
Your view on PC's and troubleshooting in general is refreshing. Fix or Flop series has been great.
That ending was gold when testing the part(s) you removed lol.
Dude no qualms with how you handled this repair. Excellent to see non typical issues and how you trouble shoot. Love these videos
You've quickly became one of my must watch Tech UA-camrs. You are absolutely KILLING it dude. Keep it up!
All of your steps were correct and never made any assumptions without testing. I did not detect any errors on your part at all. And I believe you are spot on about pressure on the CPU which is to say uneven pressure. Another well done video!
It was definitely mounting or some small dust blocking any pins.
Do not feel stupid Greg! You chose the bad part right off with changing the cpu cooler. I work on computers for a living and this kind of thing happens from time to time. People don't really understand and its hard to explain. So you have made the perfect video subconsciously!
To be 100% honest, this exact same thing happened to my friend and I while building his system. Took us 6 months and $150 but we reseated his CPU when I got fed up and scorched earth the build.
Sometimes it's best to take everything apart and test it on a bench.
Best part of this series is to see new setups every video. It's somewhat satisfying as we always think we can make our own better.
love this series, wish I have a pc like that
Don't give up then, my friend! I wanted a PC like this my whole life, and last year I was finally able to build one myself (It has the same Ryzen 5 2600 of the video btw, I was like "oh, that's nice" when I saw it) So I really want to tell you that you can do it with some work, don't stop dreaming about it, one day you will get it!
I really like how you made this video,
You know plenty about fixing PC but technology surprises you. It silly process yet a wonderful experience. For me as a viewer , you shown us that failures should be a learning guide to work more diligently than halting work embarrassingly. Thank yoi for the amazing videos and more power to you!
Exactly what im looking for to start my day! Its 9:37 am here local time 😁
I know this is an old video but dont beat yourself up Greg. Like you said we all learn together. I have watched every single fix or flop video. Really enjoy this content
Don't feel silly. Thanks for showing us that we miss some basic troubleshoot while we are over thinking when something like this happens. I will always keep this tip in my mind.
I am not sure if the original thought process was somewhat telepathic, but the fact that you went in with the plan of changing the cooling system, and BANG! Solved and done... Glad you went through all the system checks, as I understand they are mostly just for us viewers. But you might want to sit down with a piece of paper, and jot down the first 6 numbers that come to mind and head out to the Lotto shop!!
Be sure to let us know if you hit it big before you sign off and go on your world tour....
Respect for the amount of time and effort you take into all these videos haha, even when the fix isn't always quite what you expect
Another educational video for PC enthusiasts who may just give up on their PC. I am from the UK and we give honours for services to industry like a Knighthood, OBE, MBE and so on. You definitely deserve a Knighthood for services to the PC fix or flop and PCDC industry. keep them coming.
Man, I love these videos. Just goes to show you that even experienced builders can either overlook something or just be completely wrong about what the problem is. Well done, Greg!
I’m glad that you show everything. That’s why I enjoy your videos. I’m a retired engineer who used to design this stuff and I have learned a trick or two from you.
Great video Greg, you've gained a lot of credibility by just showing it as it is.
Honestly, you didnt have to do much, but this gives a nice perspective on how seemingly small issues can cause big problems for a rig.
Love the videos man
Love the series. You shouldn't feel embarrassed. It is all part of the troubleshooting process. Your process reminded me of Carey Holzman and his experiences as a tech in the field. Keep up the great work!
Carey is a great system builder. He has probably seen every issue out there by now.
I am an Electrical Engineer over many years.... Fighter Aircraft, Commerical Electrical Systems and Telephone Exchange Systems..... They have all pulled my pants down when I was certain about the fault. Some were crazy.... Enjoy your videos.... Keep putting your neck on the line.
It’s very possible it was because the processor had to much pressure, my last build was having the same problem and I reinstalled the processor 3 times and now it works like a charm.. I feel like that was my problem to have no clue what else it woulda been. And there’s nothing to be embarrassed about I pulled on all nighters trying to figure out my problem.
no need to feel silly at all. this is exactly the process for troubleshooting. These videos are a great refresher for me. I used to love to build and fix PCs, but i've been working on software for so long now, I've forgotten the fun of hardware troubleshooting. I'm building a new PC this week and finally getting rid of my gaming laptop, so its good to get a little refresher course on hardware troubleshooting and cable management.
fantastic fix! really enjoyed watching this one!
I could honestly see that exact thing happening to me. The honesty is refreshing. Thanks for the video.
If this was a murder mystery the CPU would be my last suspect, unless it was overclocked by Linus.
Or dropped by Linus.
@@andrews.9286 Or looked at by Linus
@@AndrewWoodford or around linus
Or you whispered "linus" near it
at 10:00 you can see some pins have different color than other pins and it's not the light angle because they are mixed. it might be oxidation and removing the cpu and putting it back in took care of that. that's a pretty good thing to look for also in memory and GPU contact pins. i've encountered a couple of memory sticks that were pretty bad.
Oddly, enough these symptoms were exactly what I had in an old rig of mine that was experiencing a short. I'll say the same thing I said then "It's the damnedest thing". Pulled it apart cleaned everything, put it all back in and it worked.
This happened at least 4 times now with my PC. Everytime it's something different, and it just randomly shuts down and doesn't turn on. Once it was mounting pressure, probably from expansion and contraction because I have a hot gpu and gpu. Once it was a dead bug shorting the psu. Litterally 2 days ago it was the 24 pin that came slightly loose and wouldn't allow the PSU to give power to more than LEDs (probably also from expansion and contraction. I see no other way how these parts move on their own). This is all to protect the hardware I am sure. The PSU is making sure that the hardware doesn't get fried from shorts.
Very annoying problem and fixing is just trying random things until the PC boots. It may take 5 minutes or 5 hours depending on your much your luck is on the day.
I'm kind of glad u found a specific niche . At such a crazy time I'm glad ur still making videos and funding different topics .
Loose cpu then travelling back to yours after collecting it from customer could of loosened a loose cpu :-/ Awesome vids as always Greg ✅
I'm so glad I'm not the only one this has happened to. It happened once when I built a rig for a friend and left me scratching my head for hours trying to figure out why the system wouldn't power on until I lifted the board up by the cooler to check the back for shorts and it turned on in my hand.
"It's never the CPU, except when it is", turns out it was the CPU, and then it wasn't...
😂
I love how honest your reactions are. You don't edit to make it to seem like you have a magic 8-ball. Love the work.
Ive heard that systems don't boot if the CPU fan header on the motherboard isn't populated. Maybe the cable of the CPU cooler fan was somehow dead and the motherboard didn't detect any cooler?
that's a new one for me...mounting pressure preventing boot up. Good job Greg on drilling down to the culprit issue.
I ran into the same issue when fixing a pc. Rgb header worked even though motherboard was dead. Live these videos.
Computers have minds of their own sometimes and I'm talking from alot of pc repair experience. Man, it is what it is and sometimes the fixes don't really makes sense but whatever works, works.
Really appreciate your honesty and not editing out anything to make yourself look perfect. We as technicians make lots of mistakes, the difference is how we claim them. I have seen some situations where the tech breaks something and blames the customer, preying on their ignorance. One of the major aspects of being a tech is to help people. To do otherwise is to shoot yourself in the foot imo. Like a shady mechanic, word gets around and no one comes back. Cudos to you sir, a true gentleman and a scholar as they say.
There is something genuinely fun in watching proper logical fault finding.
Dude, you're awesome. Love how you don't shy away from your wrong diagnosis.....love the channel, love the content. 👏
Gotta love that Be Quiet Screwdriver. My favourite to use when working with my computer
I absolutely adore this series, MISTAKES and all...Very accurate to what the process is like from an industry professional perspective.
Please keep them coming, and never omit the mistakes!!! Thanks again!!
I worked 20 years repairing computers. You did all that needed to be done. Good work. Have you thought about static electricity? Sometimes just unplugging several parts can discharge the static electricity stuck in the electronic chips. It has happened to me sometimes.
@Greg I also had cooler overtightened. Same thing happened. Had power but no boot. Reseated cpu and tightened cooler's screws back with less pressure and it worked! My heart attack went away eventually. 😜
One of your best vids in my opinion.
I have been confounded by my PC many a time so watching you work through problems is very relatable.
Keep up the good work!
So this is a very interesting one. I wouldn't have ever thought about the mounting pressure being the issue. Good on you for keeping this whole thing in the video.
Awesome job. I would have zeroed in on the PSU - you taught me (again) not to jump to conclusions. Please keep the series going!
Greg, it is simply the destiny this PC needed to travel to you and got fixed by the touch of your hand!! Magic, and seriously, it is like watching 23 minutes of drama, just when you thought thing was settled for the conclusion, boom! there was the twist - and I really enjoyed it!
Greg this videos teaches me so much. Never thought so many things can cause a PC to go "bad". This is like a major course for me and I learn something new with every episode. Thank your man. This to me is like a master class.
Look at it this way, these videos are learning videos, and now we all learned something new from it. That is a win in my book. Great job Greg! Just a neighbor in St.Augustine. :)
Such a small thing, but I agree about that era MSI card. The heat pipe design looks really good. Just gave my old PC with the same 1080 a good clean and really found myself admiring those puppies.
I’m currently a sophomore in high school and plan on becoming an IT because I enjoy technology and the building process of it so much and these videos are 100% the way to go if you want to learn even more
At the end of the video: you shouldn't feel stupid. You did all the right steps, I'm with you! CPU just needed reseating, could have been some dust blocking contact (unlikely) or too much mounting pressure. Great work!
I’ve been loving both PCDC and Fix or Flop. Maybe the next series you should do a combination of both. Where you try to deep clean and fix a broken and dirty gaming pc. Those types of videos are always the most satisfying.
There's no reason to feel "silly" etc... as a matter of fact, the entire "learning process" is what these should be about. Sometimes (sometimes) it's just the way it goes. thanks for keeping it honest and real...
I get so excited when I see this playlist pop up. so good. learn so much. Thanks greg
The only think I can think of with this one was that there was a piece of "gunk" that was in on of the pin slots on the CPU socket for the motherboard... and when you used the duster you dislodged it, and every pin was able to get electricity again, and then it was working... baffling! I love the process though, very nice to see how other people will trouble shoot problems with a computer!
This is one of my favorite videos of yours. I really enjoy the journey you took figuring out what was wrong. I appreciate you not cutting out any of your mistakes. Nice job.
I've had loose cables refuse to boot my system, cpu coolers with backplates that add too much pressure when overly tightened creating issues with ram detection, a physically damaged south bridge that still booted and worked so long as the system was not ever powered off completely otherwise getting it to turn on was just hell, I love seeing these fix em up videos XD
I love the playlist...that said whether or not the system was sent to you with the request of a deep clean you should still depp clean them for the "client". Many wouldnt know how to deep clean or even when to...
Awesome work your doing just thought that should be said.
Hi Greg, great job trouble shooting :)
One suggestion; The AIO waterblock you mounted, it's 180 degrees off.
The hoses should be toward the RAM, with the vents toward the VRM heat sinks for the active cooling to work, and for the LCD to display right-side-up :)
To be honest, I am a IT tech myself and I am pretty capable of debugging such problems myself. However, it is always good to see such strange problems with other systems. That helps in trying to find the problem faster as it increases the list of possible causes.
Thing is, Corsair warns ( with their PSU's ) That: From time to time a 3rd party 24 pin cable mod. cable assembly, can and will cause a: "Undesirable" power on/up effect. And by you simply moving the viewers 24 pin cable mod. And re-routing it through another access portal into the case, May have been the culprit. So in short, You did what anybody else would have done, simply by doing a process of elimination just as you did, And quite successfully, I may add.
Dont beat yourself up, You did great. And once again you fixed a viewers PC as well as a nice upgrade. Thanks for making these video's for all of us to see.