ScuffX or Aqua Gaurd - Which is best for opacity?
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- Опубліковано 16 сер 2023
- This UA-cam video compares ScuffX and Aqua Guard to determine which one provides better coverage on a green door. Using the same brand of brush, on the same surface, and with the same applicator (myself), we'll see which paint exhibits superior opacity for this extreme color. To find out the result, you'll have to watch the video. During the demonstration, I'll summarize my experience with both paints and share insights on their application process. Stay tuned to discover which paint performs best when dealing with challenging colours like green on doors.
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Been using the Scuff X for nearly 2 years now, wouldn't use anything else now. As you say flows lovely, gives a real close finish to oil. Also I find it goes along way.
I just wished they sold it in a smaller quantity.
Have to say I’ve moved to water based because of your videos & finding aqua guard thanks very much as good as the oil I was using brilliant stuff
Ain’t tried BM yet👍👍
You'll be in for a treat with ScuffX then :)
Great comparison Phil, always use Aqua Guard with the aqua undercoat (uc is really good imo) and agree with everything you say about it. Think I’ve got used to the thickness of it, and the creamy whiteness too. After seeing this think I’ll finally give Scuff x a go, prefer the finish of it on the door. Less shine looks better to me 👍
Using a mini roller then laying off with a brush is the best way for flat surfaces. Never had an issue with AG and the finish is brilliant.
Not tried scuff x and for the price i doubt i ever will 😂
Has to be one of the best comparisons you've done Phil. I used to use Aqua guard alot but once i used the BM i realised how hard the Johnnies was making me work. BM feels far easier to work and lay off and definitely flows out flatter. I was always reluctant to add water to the Aqua guard due to ninja runs but i do still use it where budget is an issue. Definitely worth keeping both on the van 👍
Glad it was helpful!
I’m a diy guy and I used scuff x on all of my woodwork in my house and I think it’s top notch , I use a Wooster silver tip brush and not rollers.
I'm so glad you mentioned the drips Phil, I had a number of them when I first used AG, the 2nd time I was more cautious and worked it more (as you say you try not to with water based but I feel AG needs working more) still got 1 or 2 in a room. 3rd time will be the charm I'm going to dilute it 10% and see how that affects it 😎
Hi, sounds like hard work lol
Phil thanks for these video reviews.. it's good to see more fellow Dec's taking a interest in the vast arsenal of options we have these days.
I've been using aqua guard since it came out on launch and can honestly say its definitely the most durable water based coating I've used to date.
3 coats and it trumps even oil satin for me.
However it does need the correct brush and a certain amount of added heat when required. Since I started using the Staalmeester 2027 or 2023 Pro-Hybrid brushes.. runs have been non existent.
Would definitely recommend for this paint.
Used alot of scruff x.. Love the eggshell but it definitely needs some extender for some larger areas doors ect..and it doesn't level off as good as aqua guard and tikkurila intact imo.
Ps Wish the old sikkens(ici) bl satura was still around😢
Cheers.
You saw my video on Sikkens BL then?
Aqua Gaurd.... It's too hard work to apply.
Last thing you need to be doing is checking for runs.
And you can't get better brushes than Arroworthy or Monarch... Cheap Brushes I can understand it not flowing well, but any quality brush should apply it.
Great video, mate. I add a drop of water to the Aqua Guard, and it makes it much easier to apply. Never had a problem with runs.
Thanks for the info!
Great video Phil and very informative. I’ve found Jono’s AG is better if you add a splash of water, flows out better and you don’t get those ninja runs and creepers. I’ve also found applying Tikkurila Everal Aqua 40 hard work as it’s a thick paint, again adding water helps otherwise it drags because it dries so fast. Scuff X takes some beating, just need to buy 3.8lts 🤷🏼
Scuff x my fav so far, covers better then anything else Iv used and even have to add water, can have it thick as you want… dries bloody quick too, always have a tin on the van now.
Aquaguard with two fussy blokes and then tip-off, cheers Phil great review👍
I used the aqua guard on a hsl when I first made the switch from oil based. I figured it would be an easier transition being a hybrid, wrong! I found it hard work to use. Didn’t flow very well and I was constantly checking for sags and runs, especially on the spindles. It’s also a death sentence for brushes. It did however end up with a lovely finish after the struggle. I haven’t touched it since. Isomat isolac for me at the moment. I’m going to decorate my bedroom in BM aura and give scuff x a try as well. Thumbs up for the video.
Aqua Guard isn't a hybrid. If it's running, it's going on too thick and not spreading well, which can happen with the wrong brush.
@@atAntC you’re right! I just checked the specs and it was the undercoat that’s a hybrid. I just assumed the whole system was when I used it. As for application, I still think it was tough going. Compared to using oil based, I hated it. Old dog, new tricks and all,
No contest. I’ve used both and as a finish and how it performs during use scuff x wins hands down every time
After watching your video, I tried the scuff X on a Howdens burford smooth four panel door, the door comes primed ( not sure what with, they're a yellowish colour) they are one of the most difficult doors to paint and to get to look mint, they're better painted with a colour than white, what I found with the scuffX satin was it dried really quickly and the open time could have been better, the second coat also dried a little too quickly, the door will need at least another coat, to be honest I didn't like the finish, it looked plastic, there's too much shine, we have been using tikkurila helmi 10, 20 and 30 , the coverage isn't as good as the scuffX but the finish looks better, also available in smaller cans. Thanks for your video
Those Tikkurila finishs are more on the side of eggshell.
Everal aqua 40 is more satin.. which will be a slightly more sheen than ScuffX
You may like the finish of H&G scuffgard
Could you do a video for dealing with rusty metal work?
Scuffex all day long .. 🙌🙌
Great video Phil, I can honestly say I have never had one run or sag with scuff x. Once it’s dry it feels like silk to touch. I never thought I would go over from oilbase until I found this. The only negative I have, it’s not even price because I think it’s worth every penny if your using it in your everyday white . Why are they not doing smaller tins? The job I am on at the moment needs two different colours on the woodwork. So that’s £200 plus your left with best part of a full tin of paint. Need to get bm to sort this out
It has to be priced for in the quote.. anything left over, keep.. or leave with the customer if you feel generous ;)
I gave her the options. She decided to go with scuff x and then I talked her back out of it?There was just going to be to much paint waste. So I ordered the paint in advance satin. I have literally just found a almost a full 3.7 tin of advance in the same colour that I had from a job left over. I kid you not! What are the odds. Oh well got two tins of it now!
Hey, Great video! Looking for some professional advice. What would you say are the top 3 waterbased gloss paints? and top 3 paints for ceiling? Thanks in advance
Tikkurila AR2, Jeger Antireflex and the Isomat Ceiling paint (that video is next monday).. all very good.
I've been using the Aqua Guard a lot at home and I found that with the right brush, there are no runs or pulling (used to get loads of runs and pulls with softer brushes). I'm using Wooster Silver Tips, give the Silver Tip a go Phil and see what you think.
There's no getting around it though, it's not an easy paint to be using.
I struggled too with it until I changed my brush, it was a game changer (and no I'm not sponsored by Wooster)@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator
Scuff x v everal aqua 40 video please
Does the aqua guard have a longer drying time .Think the 2nd coat could be working up the 1st causing it to run and sag.
Slightly. ScuffX does dry very quick.. and re coating can be within an hour.
Hi Phil, if not Aqua Guard then what brand of paint would you recommend that is most similar to Scuff-X but in a more affordable price bracket? Thanks 👍🏻
Have a look at Dulux heritage eggshell.
Then, any other other good paints I've tested.
PuSatin
Isomat
Bedec
I know there's a massive price difference, but as others have said, Scuff X does go for miles, probably because it flows out easily, makes me wonder if (in terms of time saving and going further) if the price might actually balance out?
You're right, a can seems to last ages. Dried in 20mins and I'm recoat after an hour or so.. if it dry and can take a fine nib down.
Dr Phil do you have any experience on which of these 2 keeps white the longest?
Both should stay white being waterbase.
They don't seem to be like a hybrid paint
I think I am going to have to give the Scuff X a go. Is it a two part system or can you just go straight on with the Scuff X?
as long as surface is good, clean down, sand, dust off you'll get away with two coats like you can with Aqua Gaurd.
If you wnat to do three coat system, use the correct UC/Primer.. with StiX or FreshStart.
with AG it's the Aqua Undercoat primer I've demo'd in a previous AG video.
If your going over oil based pal Zinsser first.. then 2 coats of scuffex.. other wise straight on .. once you have used it you won’t buy any other water based paint 🙌 haha you can put it on thick and it won’t run and dry in 20 ish mins 💪 sometimes one coat is enough
Sorry didn’t see you replied phil 😆
@@ianwembridge8004 thanks Ian, that’s helpful info.
Getting my new build woodwork painted in few weeks. Paintrr we have booked always uses oil based satin. I dont like oil based due to going yellow, prefer water based. Have been researching which one to buy for him to use. Is scuff x top of the list for all woodwork? Super white?
before i answer... what is the woodwork you're having.. bare wood, or pre primed MDF?
@ProfessionalPainterDecorator it has builders paint on it. Cream in hall/stairs/landing. Darker shade in all other rooms like a grey beige.. I'd say it's a cheap satin paint. Leaning towards scuff x. Reading bit more, there's different whites 🤦 chantilly lace or super white
Think the chantilly lace as it has zero undertones. Safer option
@@conortennyson6210 TBH... I can't tell much difference lol
If it's alright a painted surface..... A good sand down.
If you look back on videos where I use ScuffX, over oil eggshell... I gave it all a coat of Zinsser 123 as a base grip before using 2 coats of scuffx
well for the price the stuff x should be coving over black in 2 coats guaranteed otherwise i just dont see how its worth the money for a decorator if as a decorator your doing your gaff then its all about durability but on a job its all about coverage aint it £106 for 4 litres in white not even a colour it should be smashing it and as a water based i highly doubt like all of them its not worth the money
Be watching at 8pm next week
Both needed a third coat, so I'd buy Johnstones.
But....
The Scuff went on easier...AG has a rep for runs/sags...doing it all day and with a brush, I'd prefer to use Scuff.
Finish, subjective, so its irrelevant.
So its really down to a cost thing, if you can get away with charging double for the Scuff compared to the Johnstone's or most other WB finish paints with the customer then Scuffx has got to be the way to go.
The customer wont know what your charging for the paint, as you do a complete materials and labour price.
Hi Phil how many coats would it take to complete using a water based system on bare wood
doing one now.. burnt off windows.
Going with ISOMAT
giving it two coats of Isomat All-Primer
then two coats of Isolac Satin.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator how do you clean your brushes after useing these “water based” paints that are hybrid
@@ryanjones7233 Isomat isn't hybrid. It washes out awesome.
What’s the whitest BM colour?
I can't tell a difference lol
Phil, I saw in one of your videos, you mentioned a product that hardens rotting wood to be abled to repair and paint, what is it called again ? Thanks Dave Rogerson
Troupret woodhardener.. it's waterbase. Great product
Damn need this video quick doing my brother's flat up divorce ,will need to sell it soon ,best possible price ,he cant help me broke his shoulder in 3 places kid you not. I want the flat to look good.Used the WRX Ceiling paint ,nice gear .😘
Make of note when it's out.
We call it a sag
that too.