best water based satin paint - Benjamin Moore ScuffX
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- Опубліковано 26 сер 2024
- Best water based satin paint have I found it with Benjamin Moore ScuffX.
Benjamin Moore ScuffX paint is a water based satin paint, hard wearing and easy to apply. A two coat water based paint system from Benjamin Moore.
ScuffX is one of the best paints I've tested.
Is it something you have tried, what do you think?
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Been using this stuff since it came into the country and told you about it ages ago. Scuff X can be used anywhere and everywhere tbh. I use it on all my woodwork. The eggshell finish is a lovely finish also. I use a lot of Scuff X Matte on high traffic staircases especially for families with young kids.
Can it be used on kitchen cabinets for extra durability over BM Advance?
@KingRockets both BM products are good for cabinets, I prefer scuffx for 2 reasons, quicker recoat and drying times plus I prefer the eggshell finish in scuffx rather than the Advance Satin
@gareththompson5269 Great, thank you. I will go ahead with Scuff-X. Is there a reason you prefer eggshell over the more popular satin finish for cabinets?
@@KingRockets For me personally the eggshell finish is a lot more forgiving. You tend to have a a lot of good light coming into kitchens or what decorators call critical light. Anything with a higher sheen level shows more defects like why we use or I use ultra flat matt on ceilings. Generally kitchen cabinets are of decent surface quality and can be painted in eggshell, satin or gloss finishes, maybe I just prefer eggshell personally.
@@gareththompson5269 Perfect, thanks!
Anything American in the painting industry seems to be pretty good to be honest 👍
WOW! 😮
Thanks for this video 👍
I've just used scuff X for the first time.
Definitely worth the price! goes on so smooth, no runs. and brewers have it for £88 a tin atm on offer!
I could nearly have got away with just one coat over the crown water based satin.
I just need to stop my wife from running her fingers over it all the time now, she loves it 😄
Glad I've come across your vids mate. You have totally answered all the questions me and lads had on Scuff X and Diamond. Can't wait to see some more vids mate.
Brilliant. Keep watching, also Stay tuned for Thursdays video.... You'll wanna see it at 8pm.
Looks fabulous on walls & easy to use.
Great vid Phil keep up the good work. I used to work with Benjamin Moore in Toronto, one of the best in Cad, coming here to UK I was shocked on the quality difference xD F&B improved drastically over the years and cover is amazing. Benjamin Moore was about 90 bucks per gallon in Cad, surprised that it cost same here but in pounds... bit dissapointed on the price. If you use 1 coat undercoat 2 coat topcoat it covers perfectly.
That's interesting, tnx.
You have to say, just two coats over the black was very impressive.... Best I've seen for two.
An extra coat would be spot on.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator yes I agree. But that was my point, in canada it is always 1 coat undercoat and 2 topcoat if you switching from black (or very dark colour) to white (or very light colour) OR you just skip the undercoat and apply 3 coats of topcoat. Any other case you just apply 2 topcoats.
Yet to try scuff x but a brewers has just opened by me so it’s gonna be hard keeping out of there now I’ve seen this. Saying that next door but one to it is a Dulux centre…. Now I have used their diamond satinwood…. You can skip the undercoat on already white surfaces but I find it flows better over an undercoat and two top coats is lovely stuff! Love your videos mate! Bring a lot of energy to the screen👍 ps…. Spencer from the US is a legend… knows his stuff! Take care. Marc 👍
Spencer, he's a great bloke, I think I'm showing him a few things too which are new to him.
If you pop into Brewers, say you saw the paint on my Channel, The manager up at Mansfield branch (I know well for easy 30yrs - used to work as a Trade Dulux rep - Gary, he may be watching) rang me to ask if I'd used it... well I have now.
Hi Phil, another great video. It's one I've wanted to use and now I've seen what you've done I'll give it a go. If you can get away with one coat less, then you should save money on labour which will even out the cost of it. Thanks for keeping going with it. Cheers Bob.
it's v good. over black you'd do three.. over the cream or white, you'll be seeing just two coat.... time is money ;)
Great video Phil, keep them coming 👍
Thanks, will do!
Benji moore made Latex paints for years the interior gear was a dream to apply. Scuff X looks like the biz to use i will try it out thanks Philly B!
Try it, see what you think
This stuff sprays amazing by the way 👌
Good to Know Gavin. tnx, will be using HVLP with it soon.
Phenomenal paint!
Great videos you do Phil. Can you recommend a masking tape for freshly painted woodwork. I've used frog yellow and orange with mixed results.
you need a quality masking the more delicate ones, Have a look at Masq, Tesa and Q1 tapes.
Great video, finally someone who gives honest reviews, this paint isn't cheap what's my alternative product to use?
give Dulux Heritage a try, watch a few of my videos.. one recent one on Heritage, it's a good two coat WB paint to start with at a fare price
I've been waiting all day for this! Just about to give it a watch!
what did you think Paul?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Excellent video, looks to be good stuff, Brewers called me yesterday, my 6 tins of scuff x are ready for collection, it gives me as a novice, peace of mind, that I am using a good product, my Optiva 5, primer and another 10 liter of Anti reflex 2 was ordered yesterday too, plus more perma white for the kitchen & bathrooms, I should be cracking on with my first lot of painting next week, thank you for all the great videos and product advice, it really does help.
It’s my favourite by a mile. The eggshell though ( blue label )
Is eggshell Blue and the Satin red?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Yes. I’ve only used the blue ( eggshell) lovely stuff 😃👍🏻
Nice product test Phil. 👌 I've heard alot of great things about scuff x and your test seems to confirm the hype. I use Everal Aqua as I spray most of my jobs. However its not the best for brush work opacity wise. What's your preferred woodwork paint when spraying and why? The cost of scuff x is what puts me off 😆 Be great to see you spraying it at some point. Keep up the great content mate.
Spray..... Everal Aqua 40 is awesome. Quick drying and great finish. It's a product that's ideal for spraying straight out the tub.
I'm back using it this week.
If you watch some of my spray videos, I use it quite a lot.
I will test all these paints with HVLP.... In time ;)
Thanks for commenting too
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator ah OK! Yep, 1 x haftprimer and 2x Everal Aqua is my system for internal and exterior woodwork. Good to see the paint reps are noticing your content Phil. Well deserved.
They do it in 0.94 liters and 3.78 liters (1 gallon due to been American ) I bought 6 tins today, it cost me £90 a tin, 4 x white satin (super white) they don't do just a plain old white, even called Ben Moore today to ask, 2 x tins tinted satin wood and a can of stix to do the kitchen cupboards.. Thankfully it got a thumbs up, my doors, skirts etc are white, so should be ideal for me, Brewers have an offer on, if you sign up for one of their "Brewers cards" 20 percent off your first order and 20 percent off your next order, but for the public it is £108 a tin before discount of 20 percent, I will need to go back as I reckon I will need another tin or two for the paintwork, but phase 1, is just me getting the essential rooms completed and the rest after we move in, halls, stairs, landing, utility room, two other toilets etc.
Just so you know, the 0.94L tins are quart size, that's one quarter of a US gallon.
Best paint on the market. Advance Satin is brilliant as well.
It really is!
Can you tell me where to get this scuff x white paint red tin . please I can’t find it anywhere
SATIN? Brewers
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator cheers Phil I will have to go in store because they don’t seem to have it on website. Keep up the good work mate your videos are great and extremely helpful
Hi, Ive just come across your channel, super informative much better than the snippets you get on instagram! Can I ask please what is your go to "white" for skirting and door frames and which brush would you recommend? Many thanks
like, share and subscribe... go to the home page of my channel and comment on the 7500 subscriber giveaway... ;)
to answer the question...
ScuffX or Isomat Isolac.
have awatch through the other paints I test out too.
Oh.. Brushes... For Woodwork... Look at Monarch Advance and Arroworthy
Great vid thanks. Do you need an undercoat?
Good video phill never tried Ben Moore but hear nothing but good reports about it will have to give it a try is it purely water based or is it an hybrid
Put it this way... No problem washing brushes out with warm water.
Great Vid many thanks 👍👍
Thanks 👍
love it ❤❤
Also, got to say its on available in US gallons, 3.97l in UK money, your small tin is only a sample size mate.
It's a bit smaller, 3.78L
How would you apply this over dulux white high gloss oil based paint? Would sanding be enough and then apply two coats? Or will it peel off? Oh and it's currently £90+Vat for a 3.6L tin.
I've done some videos on this.
Personally, I'd sand down, give it a grip primer undercoat. And then go with the ScuffX.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator perfect thanks. Pained most of my new build in white high gloss before me and the missus both decided we don't like it. Was hoping that I can just slap some scuff X straight on top but looks like I'll be back sanding it a bit and going from there. Shame as the gloss looks alright in some places but really dislike it on the doors.
@@selflession you could chance sanding and two coats of scuffx. But I prefer to bring a new water based system starting with a good foundation that will stick well to the oil gloss.
Is there an edited version of this vid?
Those will be on Tiktoc for you.
Good video mate👍
Keeping with Benjamin Moore, have you tried their Aura mate.
Give it a go pure liquid gold👍
I will check it out
Looking forward to trying this gear, but I'll have to wait for that certain customer, high end work etc, as it will tip my prices over the edge for the average joe public. Its more than double the price of aquagard, which would also probably need three coats over that black. The distributors here should have gone easy with the price till the product became more popular in the trade (not just facebook group members) then ramped it up after, like tikurilla did.
Question.
How many rooms you doing....?
How.much paint do you need?
I've done a video on Aqua Guard.. will be out in a few weeks.. InTouch on the fact material price is small compared to labour and another £40 on material is not a deal breaker.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I was thinking of an average hall, stairs and landing, where the woodwork would take over 2.5 litres...if it was one off rooms the extra cost could be easily spread among a load of them.
Just pricing it up, 5L of diamond satinwood comes in at 15 quid a litre on a 5 litre tin.... Benny is 28quid based on their 3.79 litre tins.
Fine if it rules out a third coat situation, bit if they both needed 3 then hard to justify...that said, 3 coats are rare, plus factoring in buying a separate tin of primer/undercoat
Id say it could be comparable on price, but not in every case as some of the die hard Benny fans would have us believe
Looking forward to giving it a go though now I've seen this unbiased clip 👍🤔
The price you give the customer will be a total price, no split in the labour/materials.
Do the maths ... we know lots of paints need an UC then two top coats. That's on the spec when we quote.
If it's a two coat, self undercoating paint like BM, or Diamond... You'll spec two.......... if you think it may need a third, at least allow to cover it. ;)
Now..... Steve, work the price of the paint out.. to what you'll allow... three coats.. just in case..
example on a staircase (I know you'll know this, but some reading wont think of it like this)
Ok.. say you need 5ltrs of Diamond satinwood £78 (B&Q)
or you buy two 4ltr Scuff X at £216.
£138 difference.... (but you will also have 3ltrs spare for the next job.. basing it you need 5ltrs of woodwork paint)
so break it down to the price per litre....
BM.... £27ltr
Diamond £15.60 ltr.
over the 5litrs is a difference of....... £57 on the two products.
It's not much extra on the job to worry about if it's the paint you want to use.
look at it another way..... it's less than 2 hrs labour!!!
On a staircase labour price..... a weeks work.... over £1000 ?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator not quite in my neck 9f the woods, maybe about the 800 mark...
Ive had a few promises of single rooms next year, so integrating the price of the Benny will be easy enough...plus a staircase, where the customers are good price wise and leave the materials up to me really.
you need to be seeing £1k+ for a week though, or it's not worth being in business... you've seen the Earning video I did??
great video again. two coat system can you go straight over old gloss with scuff x. or do you need a primer
That is what I will be doing, but definitely needs keying up first.
They may say not, but I would use the grip primer *is that called STix? as to start a fully water based system, so I know it's has a sand/key plus a adhesion primer Uc on to start with.
Does that make sense?
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator yes so going over oil paint . Use a primier I like the halfprimier myself very good stuff drys quick. Followed by two coats. So going over oil it's a 3 coat system
I would do
But I'd stick with the same brand of paint so you don't get problems.
ie: ppl go cheaper undercoat with f&B, then wonder why it's not drying as well
3.49 litres (US gallon) between £100/£110..
Do you still consider scuff x the best paint ? I realised I can buy it in eggshell but not satin
They do it in satin and a semi gloss. Check out the website
Phil, is this paint worth the money compared to pu satin? Thanks
It's goes a long way. It works out less than £30 a litre.
Applies really easy. Great sheen level.
You need to try it TBH and make your own mind up.
I like it.
Bloody cracking paint. If I’m spraying i use isomat, if I’m brushing I use BM. Literally my only criticism of it in comparison to isomat is the colour, but its minor.
the BM, was super white, I thought it was quite good. Isomat is very white.
For one coat that's fantastic hiding power.
It's a good drop of paint.
Ah you have the smaller size! Guessing from the rep as I can’t find smaller than 3.78L anywhere it’s so so annoying
Yeah. Sample can
seen a lot of talk on the forums about it also,do you know if it can be tinted?
I'd of thought so, you saw the colour card, I'd say those colours at least. They don't do a gloss in scuffX though.
It can definitely be tinted, call Ben Moore, they are very helpful over the phone, I bought some tinted yesterday.
They are all bases, so all of their colours are tinted, even white
Hi Phil, great video !
I need your advice. Can I use Benjamin Satin Water based over oil based paint after sanding or I have to apply undercoat ?
Thanks
Hi. Tnx. You can do and you'll do it. But I do like a grip primer if I'm making a switch over.
Saying that, I have done a door and frame yesterday in ScuffX that was oil gloss, I sanded and three coated... Cus I could. But it had gone for two.
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator Thanks ! Can you recommend a good primer when you switch from gloss to water. Is there any primer which allows you to paint without sanding 😉 ?
@@war3405 always sand were ever possible.
Tikkurila otex Akva
Zinsser 123 or 123+
BM StiX or Freshstart
Caparol Haftprimer 😊
thats wants to go on a dream Phil the price of it almost as expensive as linseed paint
Is it expensive if it covers for two coats and not three?
Time is money.
I go through prices in tomorrow's video when I test out Dulux trade Diamond Satinwood.
But how does it fair up against zinsser allcoat ?
Hempel
I think crown own farrow and ball phil
Hempel ;)
David brent
3.49 litres (US gallon) between £100/£110…
Try wrx satin aswell
Quite new to market but worth and very cheap
They've not been in touch yet ;)
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator leave it with me
You couldn't possibly make any money painting with this little brush also when you paint with waterbased paint you must be very fast otherwise you end up with flashing or pronounced brush marks. We use swift brushes 2.5" is best we ever used.
you've not used it yet then with those comments , ua-cam.com/video/-r89WOpzCsA/v-deo.html
Alright for overcoating fast flow. My mum's in electric wheelchair and has bashed and chipped her doors back to bare wood driving past at wrong angle
No paint will stand up to that lol
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator I know she's getting better now with the controller
@@ProfessionalPainterDecorator what about my nephew bashing the trim with remote control Mario kart
@@losttheplot26 LoL tell him to go outside with it lol
It will help using ScuffX though.
But it's only as good as the surface it goes over.
Don't you waffle on 🙄🙄🙄
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