That’s awesome! Are you using a particular text? I’ve been teaching myself for about 2/3 years, balancing with work and life. I’m not perfect (as the quote below will likely demonstrate), but it’s a lot of fun. In tuum studium linguae Latinae multa fortuna scias!
Lambert I’ve really enjoyed LLPSI, even started teaching it with my dad, who’s taken an interest! I started with Wheelock, who I know isn’t to everyone’s tastes, but my brain enjoys the paradigmatic approach. Anyway, I hope your studies go well. All the best.
In italian we have the word "ceruleo" that probably came from the diminutive of "caelum". Sometimes the sky and the sea appear of the same color under the mediterranean sunlight. I think of ceruleo as a medium-light blue with a tiny accent of emerald green. I never thought of it as a dark blue, as we just use the word "blue" for that (while "azzurro" is a light blue). Thank you for this great video!
I really loved the video and how the script was colored like the color described. The only flaw for me was with black and white (maybe colors were not available) as it is difficult to discriminate between the different kinds because of contrast with the background.
I gotta say this video gave me a blast! I've just used it in my Latin classes here in Brazil and following the contextualization of these verses of Aeneid, I showed them a Latin version of a Brazilian song called 'Arco Íris' (Rainbow) from Xuxa that I made. My students got crazy with it. So THANK YOU!!!!
Interesting. I was trying to figure out how to say "orange (color)" in Latin last week. I am not very color-savvy, but I think I would go for "ruteus", it looks closer to me
Thank you for bringing in psycholinguistics into this video! Didn't Homer describe the sea as "wine-coloured"? Are there any similar instances in Latin texts that describe an object's colour as another colour we wouldn't associate it with today?
Yes, a lot of translations give “wine-dark” for οἶνοψ, but what really does that mean? I mentioned in another comment how Menelaus’s hair is described as “red” in Homer, but that seems unusual for a Greek.
Not to mention κυαννος as Apollo's hair color... Modern Greek's basic color terms are mostly borrowed (either from Latin or other Balkan languages). They also have 11 or 12 basic color terms (average European standard) rather than 5 or 6. Investigating Ancient Greek color terms must be difficult, though, considering the 12 centuries of literary history).
I know that I am a bit late here so if you don't see this that's fine but I was wondering where the Spanish for orange "narranja" and the French for orange "orange" come from considering that there was no term for orange in Latin?
rāvus, -a, -um, is gray-yellow, gray, tawny, but rare in classical Latin. And don't confuse this word with rāvus, -a, -um (identical spelling), meaning "hoarse".
I feel like I either have a wrong idea of what purple is or I'm color blind, because the purple in this video is more brown or dried blood color to me (but darker)... This is the second time this happened.
Actually, even modern languages sometimes aren't clear cut with colours. Japanese for instance still hasn't divided blue and green, it's the same word, 青い(aoi). You can kind of cheat by saying 緑(midori) for green, but the word seems very restricted. And blue still has only the ambiguous option. And also Japanese has to improvise for most colours: brown is just tea-colour, grey is ash-colour, and pink and orange are just English loans, ピンク(pinku) and オレンジ(orenji). Though it also breaks this language evolution, as it has purple, 紫(murasaki), though they often just use the blue word. That's why they often pick colours that for learners initially don't make sense, like 青い信号(aoi shingou) - blue traffic light, 顔が青い(kao ga aoi) - face is pale, or 赤い太陽(akai taiyou) - red sun. Which makes me wonder, if the Romans didn't have a clear cut blue word, did they just use some other colour to describe what is blue for us? Maybe viridis?
kaio oliveira carvalho I love this comment, thank you for posting it! Your proposal isn’t out of the realm of possibility, but we’d need to find things that were obviously blue, and that’s hard to determine.
So i was thinking maybe they didnt have that much importance for blue because it couldve been as rare as the sky or the sea or water, but not much else. Like what if caeruleus was just meant to signify blueness
There is a theory that people born before the industrial revolution couldn't even see blue. It was such a rare color in nature that either our eyes or brains (I don't know which) didn't have enough exposure to pick it out. And no, the sky and the sea are apparently not vividly blue enough to cause this adaptation.
Nope. My guess is that it would be described as a version of "red". In Homer's Iliad, if I recall, several characters are described as having red hair, which seems unusual for people in the Mediterranean area.
@@latintutorial Fellow Latin teacher here: when my students ask about brown, I direct them to murreus (Myrrh-colored) since myrrh has a brownish tint to it that's hovers on the fringes of yellow and red. Since many will inevitably seek out sources online, I also let them know of the medieval brunus and its origin; It makes for an interesting discussion on loanwords!
technology connections has an excellent video about what the color brown is and how we perceive it, as well as colors in language: ua-cam.com/video/wh4aWZRtTwU/v-deo.html
Yeah! I thought that was really interesting when he brought up it actually came from Arabic roots. Really cool to see how Spain's history as a confluence between the Islamic/Middle Easter world to the Roman/European world play into linguistics (with reverberations spanning into the modern day).
@@latintutorial Yeah you're right, according to the dictionary I use this word is found in Suetonius and Martial's works. Are all the words you talk about in this video classical?
Since indigo and ultramarine are classified as deep blue but were very expensive due to being imported from India and Afghanistan respectively, were they part of the Latin vocabulary or are they post-classical additions?
Latin has "niger" and "ater", but the white man (homo albus timidus) behind this yt channel is fearful of accusations of racism, so he refuses to pronounce the former.
So this was infrormative video about Latin color terms, but you seem to be employing only the very rough Berlin-Kay theory from the 1960s rather than the more refined one post World color survey which Vox has a nice discussion of here: ua-cam.com/video/hRpIukjQ0RI/v-deo.html My thanks for the video!
My art-studio is open to the public & yesterday [30 Aug '20] my grammar-prof curator made a UA-cam film called Dolcedo Art of the Thunderbolt ground floor, which gives a quick sweep of the galleria. Intelligent eyes will spot my "vast learning" in Latin - the best from latintutorial + graffiti from demonic cloacae - and soon the mezzanine will be filmed, with quotes from Catullus at his worst - hence, rest assured, fellow Latinists, the language is facing a revival in a new, possibly quite shocking guise.
It's nice to see this uploaded just at the time I should start studying latin...
That’s awesome! Are you using a particular text? I’ve been teaching myself for about 2/3 years, balancing with work and life. I’m not perfect (as the quote below will likely demonstrate), but it’s a lot of fun.
In tuum studium linguae Latinae multa fortuna scias!
@@lectorintellegat Sadly, I am not using any texts right now. I will see if i can find some manuals alongside LLPSI. Thank you!
Lambert I’ve really enjoyed LLPSI, even started teaching it with my dad, who’s taken an interest! I started with Wheelock, who I know isn’t to everyone’s tastes, but my brain enjoys the paradigmatic approach.
Anyway, I hope your studies go well. All the best.
This is so well researched and so clear. Thank you!
In italian we have the word "ceruleo" that probably came from the diminutive of "caelum". Sometimes the sky and the sea appear of the same color under the mediterranean sunlight. I think of ceruleo as a medium-light blue with a tiny accent of emerald green. I never thought of it as a dark blue, as we just use the word "blue" for that (while "azzurro" is a light blue). Thank you for this great video!
I really loved the video and how the script was colored like the color described. The only flaw for me was with black and white (maybe colors were not available) as it is difficult to discriminate between the different kinds because of contrast with the background.
Yes, a problem I ran into and couldn't really figure out.
@@latintutorial "ravus" and "griseus" have been used for "grey."
It’s because black literally translates to Niger or others variants
I never thought to learn the colors, but this is surprisingly helpful. Thank you!
I gotta say this video gave me a blast! I've just used it in my Latin classes here in Brazil and following the contextualization of these verses of Aeneid, I showed them a Latin version of a Brazilian song called 'Arco Íris' (Rainbow) from Xuxa that I made. My students got crazy with it. So THANK YOU!!!!
Pretty great, as usual. Thanks for taking the time.
Good enough, at least.
That was way more interesting than I thought it would be.
In Portuguese, we also have the word "rubro", but for red is "vermelho".
¡Video espléndido!
Interesting. I was trying to figure out how to say "orange (color)" in Latin last week. I am not very color-savvy, but I think I would go for "ruteus", it looks closer to me
Great video, thanks for sharing
Interesting - I’d love it more elaborate about purple (which is so important in antiquity and absolutely different from our violet)
Some scientific words came up also: the corpus luteum, found in the ovaries; the element rubidium, second heaviest of the alkali metals, for example.
Thank you keep up the awesome work
Thank you for bringing in psycholinguistics into this video! Didn't Homer describe the sea as "wine-coloured"? Are there any similar instances in Latin texts that describe an object's colour as another colour we wouldn't associate it with today?
Yes, a lot of translations give “wine-dark” for οἶνοψ, but what really does that mean? I mentioned in another comment how Menelaus’s hair is described as “red” in Homer, but that seems unusual for a Greek.
Not to mention κυαννος as Apollo's hair color...
Modern Greek's basic color terms are mostly borrowed (either from Latin or other Balkan languages). They also have 11 or 12 basic color terms (average European standard) rather than 5 or 6.
Investigating Ancient Greek color terms must be difficult, though, considering the 12 centuries of literary history).
@@latintutorial Achilleus was bright blonde, why would Menelas not be a redhead :) ?
Thanks Ben👍
*You made it to the front page, great work my man!*
I know that I am a bit late here so if you don't see this that's fine but I was wondering where the Spanish for orange "narranja" and the French for orange "orange" come from considering that there was no term for orange in Latin?
“Orange” is from Persian by way of Arabic, originally describing the fruit/tree!
@@latintutorial Ok, never mind the bit about being too late I geuss :).
Thanks for that little piece of enlightenment!
Why isn’t certain defined?
Does caeruleus come from cerulean?
Only Latin can complicate something as tasty as colours. Anyway, I thought "ravus" was also Latin for "grey".
rāvus, -a, -um, is gray-yellow, gray, tawny, but rare in classical Latin. And don't confuse this word with rāvus, -a, -um (identical spelling), meaning "hoarse".
@@latintutorial Hm, fair point. Guess it's not a "pure" grey colour, then. In any case, I didn't know about the homonymous usage of the word!
Very nice
I feel like I either have a wrong idea of what purple is or I'm color blind, because the purple in this video is more brown or dried blood color to me (but darker)... This is the second time this happened.
We're so used to thinking of "violet" as "purple"!
amazing content! can you tell us what do you use to make the art? maybe in one tutorial...
That's an interesting idea for a week I have writer's block!
amazing lesson! thanks.
American classical league materials have prasinus for green… where does it come from?
Greek. Prasinus is used for the chariot racing faction that Caligula and Nero were fans of!
@@latintutorial so… it’s an ok Latin word coming from Greek?
Actually, even modern languages sometimes aren't clear cut with colours. Japanese for instance still hasn't divided blue and green, it's the same word, 青い(aoi). You can kind of cheat by saying 緑(midori) for green, but the word seems very restricted. And blue still has only the ambiguous option.
And also Japanese has to improvise for most colours: brown is just tea-colour, grey is ash-colour, and pink and orange are just English loans, ピンク(pinku) and オレンジ(orenji). Though it also breaks this language evolution, as it has purple, 紫(murasaki), though they often just use the blue word.
That's why they often pick colours that for learners initially don't make sense, like 青い信号(aoi shingou) - blue traffic light, 顔が青い(kao ga aoi) - face is pale, or 赤い太陽(akai taiyou) - red sun.
Which makes me wonder, if the Romans didn't have a clear cut blue word, did they just use some other colour to describe what is blue for us? Maybe viridis?
kaio oliveira carvalho I love this comment, thank you for posting it! Your proposal isn’t out of the realm of possibility, but we’d need to find things that were obviously blue, and that’s hard to determine.
@@latintutorial And I thank you for all the videos!
How did Rubio turn into blonde in Spanish ? Rvbevs clearly is red. Does it mean reddish blonde?
Very informative!
Good video.
Blue can sometime be azzurro in Italian, but I believe that refers to a lighter blue color.
Azure?
@@ksugiarto9057 yup, from the same word, the Arabic lāzuward
@@theralhaljordan7337 and azul in spanish
So i was thinking maybe they didnt have that much importance for blue because it couldve been as rare as the sky or the sea or water, but not much else. Like what if caeruleus was just meant to signify blueness
There is a theory that people born before the industrial revolution couldn't even see blue. It was such a rare color in nature that either our eyes or brains (I don't know which) didn't have enough exposure to pick it out. And no, the sky and the sea are apparently not vividly blue enough to cause this adaptation.
I believe that any author would talk about that, wouldn't they?
"The sky is the same colour as the leaves, grass."
Sir tell me was their any name for brown colour?I wonder, how native latin speakers significant brown hair?
Nope. My guess is that it would be described as a version of "red". In Homer's Iliad, if I recall, several characters are described as having red hair, which seems unusual for people in the Mediterranean area.
@@latintutorial Fellow Latin teacher here: when my students ask about brown, I direct them to murreus (Myrrh-colored) since myrrh has a brownish tint to it that's hovers on the fringes of yellow and red. Since many will inevitably seek out sources online, I also let them know of the medieval brunus and its origin; It makes for an interesting discussion on loanwords!
technology connections has an excellent video about what the color brown is and how we perceive it, as well as colors in language: ua-cam.com/video/wh4aWZRtTwU/v-deo.html
The word Azul doesn't come from Latin but the word cielo does, which means sky in Spanish.
Yeah! I thought that was really interesting when he brought up it actually came from Arabic roots. Really cool to see how Spain's history as a confluence between the Islamic/Middle Easter world to the Roman/European world play into linguistics (with reverberations spanning into the modern day).
Thank you for this, but please add the written words for all the colors and repeat them . This helps beginners. Thank you
Isn't venetus, -a,um also a word for blue?
It appears that venetus is post-classical.
@@latintutorial Yeah you're right, according to the dictionary I use this word is found in Suetonius and Martial's works. Are all the words you talk about in this video classical?
Since indigo and ultramarine are classified as deep blue but were very expensive due to being imported from India and Afghanistan respectively, were they part of the Latin vocabulary or are they post-classical additions?
Post classical
white - blanc, blanco
black - negro
blue - azul
yellow - amarillo
red - rojo
Got slapped trying to say black jack in latin
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haha, you pronounce all the major colours except the blacks. I wonder why that could be...
Is there any word for black, starting with 'p' in latin ? In Portuguese we have 'preto' and 'negro' for black.
Latin has "niger" and "ater", but the white man (homo albus timidus) behind this yt channel is fearful of accusations of racism, so he refuses to pronounce the former.
In italian we use "celeste" to mean light-blue like the sky
So this was infrormative video about Latin color terms, but you seem to be employing only the very rough Berlin-Kay theory from the 1960s rather than the more refined one post World color survey which Vox has a nice discussion of here: ua-cam.com/video/hRpIukjQ0RI/v-deo.html
My thanks for the video!
5:44 Latin about be canceled
I see how you avoided pronouncing a certain color :')
Because he’d probably get cancelled for it!
And others😂🤣😂
its obvious. they were color blind. i always wondered where i got my color blindness from, it simple; my ancestors were the Romans.
Ego latinam linguam studeo, non anglicam... AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFWETETcgvdfgdfgd
My art-studio is open to the public & yesterday [30 Aug '20] my grammar-prof curator made a UA-cam film called Dolcedo Art of the Thunderbolt ground floor, which gives a quick sweep of the galleria. Intelligent eyes will spot my "vast learning" in Latin - the best from latintutorial + graffiti from demonic cloacae - and soon the mezzanine will be filmed, with quotes from Catullus at his worst - hence, rest assured, fellow Latinists, the language is facing a revival in a new, possibly quite shocking guise.