I removed most of the syllables from english and it's 30% faster now

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  • @jakubedzior
    @jakubedzior Рік тому +20046

    I feel like this could almost be used in creating another "What English Sounds Like To Non-English Speakers" part

    • @thepizzaguy8477
      @thepizzaguy8477 Рік тому +505

      to be stahn this could be a flawfst gwuj for pleedh mwaw up for a shrermp and such, ha weird words to get the skawrpsk used to keeng in a flow when they mahrstst

    • @eksplosiveknight
      @eksplosiveknight Рік тому +194

      no some of the consonant pairs look down right slavic

    • @haywire4686
      @haywire4686 Рік тому +102

      @@eksplosiveknight except they exist in english?

    • @GmetrixTutorialEsp
      @GmetrixTutorialEsp Рік тому +12

      No because many of the words are the same.

    • @FireyDeath4
      @FireyDeath4 Рік тому +78

      Some of them are outright English, and some of them are just... not Englishally orthographic. Like "pleedh" and "mahrstst", yeah you don't see anything like those consonant groups in English :P

  • @12ls45
    @12ls45 Рік тому +11802

    Glish and Pig-Latin seem to be on opposite ends of the syllable spectrum

    • @carstenjorgensen2607
      @carstenjorgensen2607 Рік тому +750

      And, now.... We need to invent Glish-Latin. Thanks for that!

    • @RubyPiec
      @RubyPiec Рік тому +412

      @@carstenjorgensen2607 Lom ips dol sit amt. Conc ang lit, sed do eid temp int ut lab et dor mag qua.

    • @theodoremurdock9984
      @theodoremurdock9984 Рік тому +149

      Pubig-Lubatubin ubis nubot qubite ubas fubar ubin thubat dubirubectubion ubas Ubububy Dubububy.

    • @WindowsDrawer
      @WindowsDrawer Рік тому

      @@carstenjorgensen2607 Tin

    • @YamamotoTV2021
      @YamamotoTV2021 Рік тому +36

      Yeah, until you look at Japanese.

  • @lordadamson
    @lordadamson Рік тому +4575

    I love the two hand/cursor thing you came up with. so creative. gives you a personality and face without showing your actual face.
    the animations are so high quality.
    you did a really good job.

    • @gdplayer19
      @gdplayer19 Рік тому +127

      It reminds me of the Wii Menu

    • @pvic6959
      @pvic6959 Рік тому +16

      YES i love it!!

    • @hwasassidechick
      @hwasassidechick Рік тому +16

      yess it's so unique!

    • @lodewykk
      @lodewykk Рік тому +3

      Nooo you can’t stop with that.
      We just need to bias the machine to start syllables reminiscent of the starting syllables.
      That and use predictable extra letters for allomorphs.

    • @user-mn8lz7gf6d
      @user-mn8lz7gf6d Рік тому +5

      I'd love to introduce you to the concept of the Vtuber XD

  • @jakjac645
    @jakjac645 8 місяців тому +449

    i love your little animated hands as the speaker, i’ve never seen a video style like that and it’s really charming

  • @CyberSinZProductions
    @CyberSinZProductions Рік тому +2985

    I love how the finished product sounds like he reverses engineered modern English into old English or a pre english Nordic dialect. love it

    • @lys2303
      @lys2303 Рік тому +99

      I like how the Glish word for 'having' is literally the Norwegian word 'ha'. What I love about Norwegian is how simple it is and there are far more monosyllabic commonly used words than in English or any other European language I know. It's what feels like a 'clean' language to me

    • @shatteredvidrio
      @shatteredvidrio Рік тому +18

      sounds like German bro

    • @TrynaDoMyBestHehe
      @TrynaDoMyBestHehe Рік тому +3

      To me too ​@@shatteredvidrio

    • @mr_confuse
      @mr_confuse 10 місяців тому +9

      ​@@shatteredvidrio nur das Deutsch ungefähr fünfhundert mal so viele Silben pro Satz hat

    • @pandachrissan
      @pandachrissan 6 місяців тому +3

      Actually it reminded me of Simlish 😂

  • @arirahikkala
    @arirahikkala Рік тому +445

    That "berzdzdz" right at the end. Brilliant. You tried to make Glish, but accidentally made Polish instead.

    • @Hendrixski
      @Hendrixski Рік тому +48

      As a Pole, I think more languages need to create phonemes with s, z, and ch sounds. It's strangely satisfying to speak those combos.

    • @BM-13_KATYUSHA
      @BM-13_KATYUSHA Рік тому

      ​@@Hendrixski your language sounds like a mosquito trying to speak Russian

    • @Pain.-
      @Pain.- 10 місяців тому +5

      ​​@@Hendrixskino its not😭 and it sounds weird af bro.
      But then again, I think most languages sound absolutely abhorrent

    • @sktzn6829
      @sktzn6829 10 місяців тому +26

      @@Pain.- Probably cos you're not used to them, just like most people won't be used to abhorrent vocab usage like "weird af bro'". I hope you at least think English sounds abhorrent too cos phonetically it's an inconsistent mess

    • @Pain.-
      @Pain.- 10 місяців тому

      @@sktzn6829 no, I'm german, Im very used to the german language and I think it sounds horrendous
      Edit: English is shit too, general American accent is mostly fine, but those heavy ami accents, where you cant even understand anything are shit, british is shit, canadian is shit, Australian is shit and so on..

  • @user-cz3sl5gr3n
    @user-cz3sl5gr3n Рік тому +2653

    My man just came out of the shadows and made a perfect youtube video for like, no reason. Like this isn't his job. He just made a creative, well researched, educational, well animated, easy to understand video for the fun of it. Holy shit. I'm blown away. ❤ much love

    • @fili275
      @fili275 Рік тому +14

      He’s the best

    • @paulius4LP
      @paulius4LP Рік тому +23

      Thanks for speenk my mind. I can't deal with these sibz.

    • @BecauseICantEdit
      @BecauseICantEdit Рік тому +6

      It's not well-researched. He incorrectly defines allomorphs.

    • @melancholymercury9132
      @melancholymercury9132 Рік тому +21

      ⁠@@BecauseICantEdit well it can still be well researched and have mistakes! it’s more about the work put into it- mistakes can always happen

    • @name2l
      @name2l Рік тому +2

      I'm glad to see people still working hard, like I would see back in the day. Been seeing less of that now, so this was fun.

  • @itsmeaimbot
    @itsmeaimbot 2 місяці тому +631

    0:28 no Vsauce music:

    • @riz17kumar
      @riz17kumar 2 місяці тому +19

      Still i heard it in my mind 😂

    • @MyMohanta
      @MyMohanta Місяць тому +2

      Yes

    • @gabanzocoolness
      @gabanzocoolness Місяць тому +2

      420th like

    • @paradox9551
      @paradox9551 Місяць тому +3

      and how much does it weigh?

    • @ayezz2811
      @ayezz2811 23 дні тому +1

      “But what IS a syllable?”
      *bommmmm*

  • @mythrin
    @mythrin Рік тому +6098

    Congrats you just showed why Chinese being mono-syllabic makes it so efficient, but also why tones are essential. Tones allow you to reuse the same syllable sounds but still have different meanings. The result is a language with an incredibly high "meaning" per syllable ratio. That's why with Chinese proverbs, you have the ability to densely pack entire philosophical concepts and lessons into just 4 words.

    • @elliot20201
      @elliot20201 Рік тому +515

      Yes! I am learning Chinese (mostly just for fun, but I did take a class in college), and when he mentioned the homophone problem, I was just like "here is where tones come in" lol

    • @yolt9786
      @yolt9786 Рік тому +367

      And don’t forget there’s also just a ludicrous amount of simultaneously same-sound same-tone words, so even more than tones context may be the only way to tell when speaking. The words for “sixteen” and “pomegranate” (shíliù, shíliu) will practically sound identical. There are so many more homophones in Chinese than English

    • @StoufSto
      @StoufSto Рік тому +113

      I mean any language can do short proverbs. They still have to be explained or understood already for the few words to actually be interpreted correctly. The culture keeps the meaning alive, but if you were disconnected from context, the proverb would sound like gibberish.

    • @Foivos_Apollon
      @Foivos_Apollon Рік тому +107

      ​@@yolt9786buddy pomegranate and 16 do not sound the same. liu in pomegranate on its own turns into liú and is then distinguishable from 16. Also, context says that 我吃十六 is probably _not_ what you just said.

    • @do811
      @do811 Рік тому +41

      It also makes it horrible to learn as someone with english as their first language.

  • @Taiyoryu
    @Taiyoryu Рік тому +4607

    This happens naturally. Most recent example is "riz" for "charisma". The algorithm is a little naïve and ignores how some words relate to one another. Hence, the weird mapping for "thirty" when "three" and "third" are presumably untouched due to being monosyllabic already. "thirty" should probably be categorized as an allomorph.

    • @WalterHildahl
      @WalterHildahl Рік тому +172

      Thirty is related to Twenty, Forty, Fifty, Sixty, Seventy, Eighty, Ninety. You can't escape the numbering structure .

    • @arrakistoxic1765
      @arrakistoxic1765 Рік тому +185

      I think riz could be considered a diff word, the connotations for riz is more romantic like trying to seduce someone, while charisma is an adjective thats more passive

    • @tylerdavis3
      @tylerdavis3 Рік тому +209

      ⁠​⁠@@arrakistoxic1765 It shouldn’t be, it’s literally charisma shortened, ChaRIZZma. Also how often do you actually use the word charisma for platonic relationships?Regardless, you unintentionally highlighted another example, from different to diff.

    • @Miftahul_786
      @Miftahul_786 Рік тому +81

      @@arrakistoxic1765It could be considered a different word sure, but I think it’s a good thing to consider the etymology of the word. Its origin is the word charisma, just shortened

    • @arrakistoxic1765
      @arrakistoxic1765 Рік тому +30

      @@tylerdavis3 Go complain to language department if such a thing exists, "sHoULdnT bE" 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

  • @qanpi
    @qanpi Рік тому +860

    Glad I stumbled across this video. As a computer science student, the amount of effort put into the programming, explanations and animations is phenomenal. Definitely deserves the support of the algorithm.

    • @Swenthorian
      @Swenthorian Рік тому +17

      Really cool from a programming perspective, but the linguistics in this is so oversimplified that it at times borders on incorrect. As a programmer and linguist, I am conflicted.

    • @Smiley957
      @Smiley957 Рік тому +19

      It looks like he made separate words for singular and plural. A better approach would have been to use a word like “many” before any plural, hence cutting the number of new words in half. For past tense, using a word like “past” before the verb. Making new words for each variant means Glish becomes a weird language real quick.

    • @joostine3720
      @joostine3720 Рік тому +10

      @@Swenthorian what parts border on incorrect?

    • @bitsnail
      @bitsnail Рік тому

      Yeah, fun :) 6:40 looks like a Markov chain to me.

    • @Swenthorian
      @Swenthorian Рік тому +6

      ​@@joostine3720 Good question! I will reiterate, before I start, the key words in my original comment are "borders" and "oversimplified".
      One of the most-obvious things, which even non-linguists could have noticed during the course of the video, is that [s] is higher on the sonority hierarchy ("more sonorant") than [t]; indeed, this is a very common and well-known exception to the rule-of-thumb that is the Sonority Sequencing Principle in many Indo-European languages. Yet, the presenter makes no mention of this (instead (as I recall) presenting the SSP as a kind of universal law of language (It's more of a universal guideline, and many (most? Hmm, this is a good question...) languages have explicit exceptions to it.). No mention of there even being such exceptions was made in the video (at least that I heard), and worse: 3:06 shows [s] as being less sonorant than [p]! This is plainly factually incorrect, but I assume the author just wanted a prettier squiggle, and decided to say "chàbùduō" and draw it incorrectly anyway, either to avoid having to talk about there being exceptions, or because the author didn't know that exceptions existed.
      Another thing that turned me off was that the author, as I recall, reduced the sonority hierarchy into a matter of how loud phones were which is... not correct, and beyond mere oversimplification. It's actually kinda difficult to explain sonority to a layperson. One way you can think of it in terms of distinctive features, which are the characteristics of a phone. Some features make a phone more sonorant than others. The ¿best? way to think of sonority is *probably* in terms of acoustics. Unfortunately, I'm not an acoustic phonetician (though I'd like to dive deep into it someday); but if I had to try to *hazard* an acoustic definition of sonority, I'd perhaps say that the more well-defined and steady the formants are, the more sonorant a sound is. If there's an acoustic phonetician out there, *please* correct me if I'm missing something with this definition. The loudness that the author said was the defining characteristic of sonority is at worst more of a side-effect of sonority, and at best just one small part of the puzzle.
      If you want to quickly grok the sonority hierarchy, you can essentially do so by going row-by-row in the IPA chart; the rows are the manners of articulation, and they're mostly ordered by sonority (though this is not true for some rows, such as the laterals, which aren't more sonorant than their unlateralized counterparts).
      An additional, though very minor point, is that the author exclusively uses "Sonority Sequencing Principle" in places where he meant "sonority hierarchy" or just "sonority" This is really not at all a *real* problem, since people can figure things out from context, or just reduce everything to the word "sonority"; but I bring this up because it's one of many tell-tale signs that the author is inexperienced with the subject matter. Which, I want to stress that that is fine; we're allowed to go outside our fields of expertise (Good heavens, imagine if we couldn't!). But what was covered was lackluster, akin to being tutored by someone who is still, themselves, learning the material they are trying to tutor you on.
      The author also had this idea that fewer syllables means faster communication, but per my understanding, this isn't true. I don't have a study off-hand to point to, but my recollection is that the rate of information transfer during human speech is consistent regardless of how syllable-laden the language is; that is to say: languages with more syllables are simply articulated faster than languages with fewer syllables. As an English speaker, you may have experienced this phenomenon when hearing Spanish spoken: it *sounds* really fast, because each syllabe really is being pronounced faster; but Spanish words have on average so many syllables that they aren't actually communicating more-rapidly than you with your less-syllabic English. The language faculties of the brain can only handle so much information at once, regardless of how quickly your mouth is able to move.
      In any case: these were the main things I remember having noticed when I watched it a couple days ago.
      Please don't read this as a total condemnation of the author, because it isn't; I'm just answering your question about why I felt the linguistical side to this video was so lackluster. And hence, why I was so underwhelmed by it, despite finding the software part quite cool.

  • @JessScreams
    @JessScreams Місяць тому +78

    12:21 “berzdzdz” for “resembles” is heinous lol

    • @PookieReal
      @PookieReal Місяць тому +6

      How am i supposed to say that😂

    • @coloneljo
      @coloneljo Місяць тому +7

      How is that monosyllabic?

    • @zephryus2001
      @zephryus2001 Місяць тому +1

      @@coloneljolook back at the definition for syllables

    • @evanwong8748
      @evanwong8748 Місяць тому +4

      @@coloneljoIt’s because way the program interprets syllable validity. In English, /z/ can be before /d/, like in “fazed,” but /d/ can also be before /z/, like in “fades.” So the program through random probability just hopped between those two sounds back and forth thinking it would create a valid syllable ending.

    • @catlovingtrio
      @catlovingtrio 8 днів тому +1

      It doesn't even resemble resembles!

  • @crustissues2830
    @crustissues2830 Рік тому +717

    I did a similar project without the strict one syllable rule, I called it Minima, the goal was to make english more logical - sometimes borrowing words from other european languages - it only has 16 letters. I also made a translator for it!

    • @elacee09
      @elacee09 Рік тому +35

      I’m curious to see it

    • @foobars3816
      @foobars3816 Рік тому +51

      So glad you didn't mention how we could see it in action. Even if you respond now with a youtube link I'm unlikely to ever see this conversation again. Nice idea though.

    • @nam4032
      @nam4032 Рік тому +18

      sounds really interesting, could you send a link to it please?

    • @crustissues2830
      @crustissues2830 Рік тому

      I will share/let you know when I get around to making a video or something of it as it was just a personal project! Happy to if anyone's interested though@@nam4032

    • @SignsWithinScience
      @SignsWithinScience Рік тому +111

      ​@@foobars3816That's rude

  • @imacubsfan23
    @imacubsfan23 Рік тому +894

    Just a thought for if you made a second part to this video, all numbers from 0-9 are monosyllabic except for seven. As a math guy, I personally get really excited when we can represent any number in one syllable, and calling seven Sven is amazing to me. Then instead of 35 being meedhd-five, it could just be three-five. or if the number was 777, it could just be said as Sven-Sven-Sven. Or we could call it Bjorn

    • @dwidya
      @dwidya Рік тому +80

      Seven should be changed to either Sev, Siev, or Zieb, anything else is just wrong

    • @dwidya
      @dwidya Рік тому +18

      Sieben

    • @chr13
      @chr13 Рік тому +59

      What about zero? Zer?
      But then "one trillion" would be called "one-zer-zer-zer-zer-zer-zer-zer-zer-zer-zer-zer-zer".

    • @kanelithing
      @kanelithing Рік тому +62

      @@chr13whatever happened to nil?

    • @Human-san
      @Human-san Рік тому +31

      ​@@chr13 null.

  • @breadleymcthicc5444
    @breadleymcthicc5444 Рік тому +284

    This video is an incredible insight into language and how it works fundamentally. I'd like to see more come from this, it seems like a solid foundation for a project!

    • @Noname-km3zx
      @Noname-km3zx Рік тому +3

      I know right, I was in awe after watching this

    • @carcharoclesmegalodon6904
      @carcharoclesmegalodon6904 Рік тому +3

      Well... kind of. More precisely, into how a single, rather simple (and not universally applicable) concept works xD

  • @firebreatha
    @firebreatha 10 місяців тому +21

    This is what they should use for Sims 5

  • @LARAUJO_0
    @LARAUJO_0 Рік тому +975

    This is by far the best explanation of what syllables are and how our brains interpret them that I've seen

    • @sugunabathula9994
      @sugunabathula9994 8 місяців тому +1

      Yeah

    • @suhnih4076
      @suhnih4076 7 місяців тому

      True

    • @krkngd-wn6xj
      @krkngd-wn6xj 7 місяців тому +3

      As a Hungarian speaker, this is so weird to me. We learn this very early, tho I guess our pronounciation is simpler, so maybe that's why it's more intuitive.

    • @tscole12
      @tscole12 7 місяців тому +1

      @@krkngd-wn6xjit’s kinda because most of the rules for English get broken on a daily basis, especially with syllables.

    • @StanIvanov
      @StanIvanov 7 місяців тому

      Playing Poetry for Neanderthals right now and because of this video, I'm enjoying the No stick extensively

  • @john-paulgies4313
    @john-paulgies4313 Рік тому +345

    A small thought for Glish 2.0: it should be able to account for things like "totally" = "totes", which is more in the spirit of the project, I believe. Of course, "legitimate" = "le • git" in this convention... maybe allowing two syllables [occasionally] would be a useful compromise, as well as permitting homophones to be distinguishable in context ("comp" is "compromise" here, "computer" there, "compress" elsewhere). Just spit balling.

    • @jmoney4695
      @jmoney4695 Рік тому +28

      Totes is already a word though. And the problem with allowing homophones is that typically they are just pronounced the same but spelt differently (new vs knew). When they are all spelt the same it becomes illegible. “I comp on comp comp because comp are comp to comp. = I compromised on computer compression because computers are comparable to compost.

    • @Thefrogbread
      @Thefrogbread Рік тому +2

      manatee vs pizza yousyn’d

    • @hahasamian8010
      @hahasamian8010 Рік тому +8

      ​@@jmoney4695The thing is that while "totes" is indeed a word, practically no one uses it (with its proper meaning) compared to using it as a substitute for "totally", or just saying "totally" in general. Way more common word.

    • @jmoney4695
      @jmoney4695 Рік тому +1

      @@hahasamian8010 that is just an example - i am sure there are many other comparable examples. The problem is that if you start allowing arbitrary shortenings (totally into totes), it opens the metaphorical Pandora’s box. Keeping it in a more systematic way is the only way to ensure it is somewhat understandable. Furthermore, “totes” is slang - and slang is not consistent across regions. Therefore, the number of idiosyncrasies that would be introduced to allow for certain, arbitrary slangs to remain would make it an overall much more complex system.

    • @hahasamian8010
      @hahasamian8010 Рік тому +1

      @@jmoney4695 Glish already has enough words messed up that it needs to be learned, this sort of change is just an optimization

  • @shampooer
    @shampooer 11 місяців тому +70

    slowly evolving to 1984 newspeak

    • @arcxn6
      @arcxn6 Місяць тому

      novojaz💀

    • @Albertable
      @Albertable Місяць тому

      This is literally what I was thinking!
      Newspeak double-plus good type shit.

  • @lucasfogaca555
    @lucasfogaca555 2 місяці тому +63

    its been almost a year, and every now and then i remember that 'about' didn't get converted to 'bout', and it always brings sadness to my heart

    • @Jengamouse
      @Jengamouse Місяць тому +1

      Bout is a word

    • @lucasfogaca555
      @lucasfogaca555 Місяць тому +1

      @Jengamouse a very uncommon one

    • @Jengamouse
      @Jengamouse Місяць тому +6

      @@lucasfogaca555 Sure, it's not a particularly common word, but the rule was that they wouldn't change any words that were already monosyllabic.

    • @lucasfogaca555
      @lucasfogaca555 Місяць тому +2

      @Jengamouse yeah i know. to me, that 'if ain't broke, dont fix it' thing was to this project's own detriment

  • @nicreven
    @nicreven Рік тому +376

    This is so well animated and it's so cool? How the hell has this not caught on yet

    • @YamamotoTV2021
      @YamamotoTV2021 Рік тому +29

      It's only one day old.

    • @nicreven
      @nicreven Рік тому

      No i mean, like, they only have 7K subs
      It realistically is my fault for not checking the channel to see their previous videos (of which there is ONE)
      dats my bad@@YamamotoTV2021

    • @dant3838
      @dant3838 Рік тому +16

      this has been out for 20 hours my guy itll catch on

    • @nicreven
      @nicreven Рік тому

      YEAH I REALISED OK@@dant3838

    • @thavrisco1632
      @thavrisco1632 Рік тому +1

      The video is less than one day old if that’s what you’re referring to

  • @Krong
    @Krong Рік тому +54

    Such a unique presentation style! The hands give everyone something to look at in the same way pointers work on slides, but their versatility in doing other gestures is super cool.

  • @declanclaus6681
    @declanclaus6681 Рік тому +2032

    Man scientifically invented slang

    • @Tryh4rd3rr
      @Tryh4rd3rr 9 місяців тому +26

      So true lol

    • @2yldy
      @2yldy 8 місяців тому +1

      yeah

    • @arronalt
      @arronalt 8 місяців тому +72

      the word "Charisma" better be "rizz" in glish or we going to WAR🔥🔥🔥🔥

    • @icegod4849
      @icegod4849 7 місяців тому +18

      @@arronalt its not, sadly. Charisma isnt a super common word, so it got shafted to Plan B and Charisma in Glish is "miksk"

    • @ShiroCh_ID
      @ShiroCh_ID 6 місяців тому +2

      @@icegod4849 how the heck you read that lol

  • @Kingdududu
    @Kingdududu 2 місяці тому +26

    11:37 I was reading it out loud. Do not say the translation for “any given”

    • @honeyxmoony
      @honeyxmoony 24 дні тому +2

      you just made the video 30% better

  • @Winter0192
    @Winter0192 Рік тому +65

    Amazing video, I love that this has some literal parallels to stenography. Seeing the graph you made to assign monosyllabic words was kind of cool because it is LITERALLY the steno keyboard layout. Syllables add up.

  • @themantikormc
    @themantikormc Рік тому +113

    German chilling with the Rindfleischettiketierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz

    • @hamzamotara4304
      @hamzamotara4304 8 місяців тому +35

      Beef Labeling Monitoring Task Transfer Act?

    • @ItsSeated
      @ItsSeated 8 місяців тому +11

      @@hamzamotara4304 ye, German People mix the word to create those word

    • @DH-xw6jp
      @DH-xw6jp 8 місяців тому +10

      Gesundheit.

    • @OminousBro
      @OminousBro 8 місяців тому +2

      Can shorten this to “fleisch”

    • @MarkusHobelsberger
      @MarkusHobelsberger 7 місяців тому +4

      Did someone say Donaudampfschifffahrtskapitänskajütenmützenhalterung?

  • @jlhughes122
    @jlhughes122 Рік тому +16

    Good sir, I completely nerded out to this video. It was like hearing about Toki pona for the first time. What a neat idea! I’ll definitely be looking at Glish some more.

  • @priultimus
    @priultimus 2 місяці тому +26

    2:55 now how is ALL this coming from the guy who didn’t know what a syllable was 🤨 i’m starting to suspect that was just a means of introducing the subject to me

    • @poppy-spades
      @poppy-spades Місяць тому +2

      Sometimes not knowing something particularly motivates you to learn it in a way most people aren't forced to!

  • @Ismft
    @Ismft Рік тому +26

    I enjoy that this is a light hearted topic, and the video is presented as being some what silly. All while being a lowkey introduction and overview of some of the most powerful ontological/linguistic tools there are in computer science, and even some of the more complicated computer science concepts like graph theory. This is the type of video that keeps me coming back to youtube. Subscribed.

  • @kech-agmaio8620
    @kech-agmaio8620 Рік тому +16

    I love your unique style of presentation. Very inspiring and fun to watch!

  • @spaicersoda7165
    @spaicersoda7165 Рік тому +1139

    I think one very important thing you missed is composite words, like hotdog, outside, inside, bathroom, sunflower, cowboy, etc. There's probably a lot of them that are "taking space" innecesarily. For example, watermelon gets translated to wult, but water is twawstst and melon is flem.

    • @bryce4395
      @bryce4395 Рік тому +264

      wATER IS WHAT

    • @jacob-shaffer
      @jacob-shaffer Рік тому +106

      Hmm, I feel like a better mapping is water -> wult, melon stays as flem, then watermelon is wultflem.

    • @nocodenoblunder6672
      @nocodenoblunder6672 10 місяців тому +161

      @@jacob-shafferyeah then its no longer monosyllabic which was his goal. But I can see you could make an exception for these composite words.

    • @Ravenna.E.Blackbird
      @Ravenna.E.Blackbird 10 місяців тому +73

      @@bryce4395Twawstst! 👍🏻
      (Coughs up a whole-ass snake)

    • @Jayson_Tatum
      @Jayson_Tatum 10 місяців тому +8

      Things like inside outside can be simplified through context as 'ins' and 'outs' ... see my comment above. I think to make this work, there has to be a stupid understanding of contextual identifiers within the sentence.

  • @chrispysaid
    @chrispysaid 9 місяців тому +12

    even theought the end result is less than practical, going through the journey with you as you explained your process absolutely did it for me. that's a 10/10 video, A+ (extra credit for the cute hand animations)

  • @twilso12
    @twilso12 Рік тому +14

    10:52 dude just incarnated as the bastard child of Shakespeare and Dr. Seuss

  • @voltsiano116
    @voltsiano116 Рік тому +217

    In a weird way, I find it neat how this highlights the importance of root words and multisyllabic words in general. A word that's based one or multiple others has an easily identifiable meaning, even if someone's never heard that specific word before. It eliminates the need to memorize unique sounds for _every single_ word, and instead allows things to build on each other, and - in turn - build on a person's prior knowledge of the language.

    • @Radeo
      @Radeo Рік тому +11

      conceptualization and integration instead of deconstruction?
      aristotle instead of plato?
      in our modern culture?

    • @SkylordGuillaume
      @SkylordGuillaume Рік тому +21

      Exactly. Imagine what a nightmare med school would be if every word for every bone, muscle, and organ was totally unique

    • @OminousBro
      @OminousBro 8 місяців тому +1

      @@Radeoconcps and interg instead of decons?
      Aristotle instead of Plato?
      In our modern ‘ture?

  • @jayashrishobna
    @jayashrishobna Рік тому +169

    Nice work. This actually reminds me of a lot of english creole languages. Maybe if we just deliberately shortened a lot of common english words to already used colloquialisms or slang (like "about" to "bout" in verbally speech, and "already" to "alr" like we do in text), we'd be able to tackle a lot of it already.

    • @Pain.-
      @Pain.- 10 місяців тому +8

      Never seen someone say alr. No way thats a thing, its so goofy
      alr
      LMAOO

    • @emohairball
      @emohairball 9 місяців тому +1

      Nah its a thing ​@@Pain.-

    • @InventorZahran
      @InventorZahran 9 місяців тому +3

      'Already' should be shortened to "ardy". Me and most of my (American) English-speaking colleagues ardy pronounce it that way.

    • @hardcorelace7565
      @hardcorelace7565 9 місяців тому

      ​@@InventorZahranthat's so close to hardy though, especially if you start doing the american herb thing..

    • @paracame8162
      @paracame8162 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Pain.- I always use alr. it's so much simpler and faster

  • @healxo
    @healxo 11 місяців тому +1793

    Isn't that just Dutch

  • @TeddySaxbang5690
    @TeddySaxbang5690 Рік тому +323

    I remember my mixed emotions during those clapping exercises, in elementary school. It was fascinating and curious, but also frustrating and confusing. They usually had me feeling angry or insecure, by the end. Sometimes a caramel vs _“carmel”_ or chocolate vs _choclate”_ thing. Sometimes a “How are words like *scraped, bridge, truth,* and *desks* one syllable?” thing.

    • @betin731
      @betin731 Рік тому +52

      Before you count the vowels, you gotta re-spell the word to be like how you pronounce it.
      Yes, "scraped" and "bridge" both have more than one vowel. But we actually pronounce them "scrayp'd" and "bridj", which both only have one vowel.

    • @fulana_de_tal
      @fulana_de_tal Рік тому +23

      Thank goodness my first language is Portuguese so i never had to face this problem

    • @comfysage
      @comfysage 11 місяців тому +4

      I grew up in the Netherlands and splitting words up into syllables is actually so much harder in dutch

    • @cool_guy87
      @cool_guy87 11 місяців тому +9

      I see why you were confused about “scraped” and “desks”; but why “truth”?

    • @cool_guy87
      @cool_guy87 11 місяців тому +4

      @@betin731They don’t have more than one *vowel*; they have more than one letter *usually* making a vowel sound. Linguistically, it’s just one vowel

  • @fili275
    @fili275 Рік тому +33

    This is so cool!! Amazing animation btw. Love the original art. Also you’re quite funny

  • @maxwell4444
    @maxwell4444 Рік тому +7

    This is such a creative and fun to watch art style. Keep up the good work !!!

  • @jdhilario
    @jdhilario Місяць тому

    This is one of my favorite UA-cam videos I’ve seen in a while. Your delivery is so relaxing, and it makes me genuinely interested in linguistics.

  • @bjoern_eberhardt
    @bjoern_eberhardt Рік тому +191

    There's a bug in your application. If you enter a word such as "multi-directional", the second word doesn't get translated at all, compared to when it was separated with spaces. I suggest you to use a tokeniser to pass on non-word characters unchanged and capture groups of word characters, instead of whatever you did to capture only the first half of a hyphenised compound word ;)

    • @saboteurxyz
      @saboteurxyz Рік тому +22

      Great catch; that's sure to improve the quality of the output!
      In my opinion, I don't think any "fancy"/actual implementations of a tokenizer (lexical/probabilistic) would be needed for this specific issue, mainly because a simple regular expression pattern would be able to handle most of the cases we'd want to (e.g., "thirty-five"), such as with a first basic pass: /\w+/g or /(\w+)/g for the capture groups, as you mentioned. (Use whatever modifiers you want, like m, etc.)
      This pattern doesn't handle numeric digits, but I considered digits regardless since they're out of the scope anyway.
      If we cared more for semantics or understanding, moving towards more complex natural language processing techniques would surely help to improve the sound/tone/flow/etc. Technically, it would offer much-improved consistency, but that’s a much more substantial change for a more complex, different problem. I'm not overly familiar with linguistics, though, so I might be missing some more significant pieces from my ignorance or lack of experience, where my understanding is rougher and causes me to make more assumptions.
      Edit: I just saw you put in a PR! I appreciate your diligence!

  • @lisaayres-zp5jj
    @lisaayres-zp5jj Рік тому +431

    one problem: many words in english have multiple roots like pterodactyl, it would make less sense to invent a new syllable than to make the one word into two (calling them wing-fings)
    i think the english language already has enough monosyllabic words to do this, there's this game called poetry for neanderthals where you have to describe a word or concept on a card using 1 syllable words, when you practice it you can get very quick at it

    • @gamefan1353
      @gamefan1353 Рік тому +35

      Absolutely in love with wing-fings

    • @nerobernardino88
      @nerobernardino88 Рік тому +17

      Wing-fings, it wings and fings.

    • @roryl1561
      @roryl1561 Рік тому +52

      Did you know that helicopter is not made up of Heli and Copter, but actually helico (like helix) and pter (like pterodactyl)? I found this out recently and thought it was fascinating.

    • @nerobernardino88
      @nerobernardino88 Рік тому +6

      So... Twist-Wing?

    • @zeusthunder6674
      @zeusthunder6674 Рік тому +14

      Yeah, even so-called monosyllabic languages like 漢語 and tiếng Việt are filled to the brim with multisyllabic words like 自己 and hạnh phúc - they just happen to have 1:1 morpheme to syllable ratio. I know it somewhat defeats the point to make words like these, but it avoids consonant clusters that are not only hard to pronounce for english speakers but also likely to evolve into multisyllabic words in the future, and besides, you already let thirty-five slide, right?

  • @ariannasv22
    @ariannasv22 Рік тому +5

    This is the most perfect educational(?) video I have ever seen. Also the animation is really appealing and almost took up my entire focus lol

  • @AngryArmadillo
    @AngryArmadillo 8 місяців тому +2

    I like your teaching style, especially the way in which you introduce a new external concept by first presenting the problem and then introducing the concept as one potential solution.

  • @Drelld187
    @Drelld187 Рік тому +44

    I just wanted to say how amazing this video is!
    I love the hand cursors and the animations are so smooth.
    Your explanations are amazing!
    Thank you for making this and you deserve more support from the UA-cam algorithm.

  • @Beerdude26
    @Beerdude26 Рік тому +165

    To make the Glish words more similar to their English equivalents, you could give the generated Glish word a similarity score. The easiest similarity function here is probably Levenshtein distance. You might want to play with the weights for the operations to discourage transpositions and subsitutions. Perhaps even boost the score for deletions! This means you will have to generate many more Glish candidates, but the ones selected will be of higher quality.

  • @3katsime
    @3katsime Рік тому +341

    i don't know if you'll ever see this but this is one of the most creative videos ive seen in such a long time on youtube, i mean the animation, the presentation of your hands through those cute hands, the topic, the delivery, the writing, all of it is FLAWLESS and im dumbfounded how you only have 10k subscribers when you should be closing in on 8 figures with ths level of content.

    • @Sai_aR2
      @Sai_aR2 Рік тому +11

      well, if you check the videos this channel posted you will see there are a total of 2 videos, this one and another one posted 2 years ago, if he continues posting videos like this one at a reasonable rate I believe he would have much more subscribers.

  • @Rulerofwax24
    @Rulerofwax24 7 місяців тому +2

    I've been recommended this video _a bunch_ but always resisted clicking it because I figured from the thumbnail/title that it would just be about compression algorithms since 30% isn't far off what's typical. But this video was really great and after watching your others, I'll be waiting for the next one.

  • @bigmike70
    @bigmike70 Рік тому +26

    Here I am, thinking I just discovered a new awesome youtube channel and I'm about to binge hours of funny educational content. Now imagine my despair realizing there are only 2 videos. Please please please make more, this was awesome!

    • @PoopShitz
      @PoopShitz Рік тому +4

      I just had this same moment lol

  • @paulverse4587
    @paulverse4587 Рік тому +5

    Very surprised to see this channel have only two videos. Definetly subscribed. Looking forward for more!

  • @oasntet
    @oasntet Рік тому +34

    I think there's probably a step after setting up the directed graph, where you run a loss optimization function across some common corpus, weighting words by frequency and aiming for glish versions involving the least change across the whole corpus, not just per-word.
    I also think it would also be important that some rules, like plurality, are applied somewhat uniformly. Of course, we don't do that reliably in English already, but sometimes that's a result of sound combinations not working. Like, 'changes' is only two syllables because 'zj-s' is difficult. But assuming pronunciation similarity is less important than rule following, 'change' could be 'chang' and 'changes' could be 'changs'.

  • @LoneRatatouille
    @LoneRatatouille 2 місяці тому +13

    A breadbox should just be a Brox

  • @norude
    @norude Рік тому +306

    The sonority principle is not the only thing. It is too general to be descriptive of English.
    Some languages disallow certain syllable structures. Like a lot of asian languages follow strict CV (consonant-vowel) structure. So there is always a vowel after a consonant.
    On the other hand here is the Czech word for wolf: "vlk". Yes it doesn't have vowels, but the "L" kinda functions like one.
    English also has theese things. For example in old English the sound "g" as in "good" began to shift to the sound "g" (as in "gene") before front vowels, like the one in "gene" or "green".
    This btw is the basis of the whole gif/gif debate.

    • @norude
      @norude Рік тому +12

      Aaaand you didn't use the principle

    • @kmr_tl4509
      @kmr_tl4509 Рік тому +6

      @@norude If I'm getting the principle right, then the odd words are rahrmp, pesps, and slirnjd, right?

    • @norude
      @norude Рік тому

      @@kmr_tl4509 google English phonotactics

    • @orin6
      @orin6 Рік тому +15

      @@kmr_tl4509 No I believe those all follow the principle correctly. pesps isn't really correct due to the sps part at the end since s should have greater sonority than p. However, english typically allows s to occur after or before voiceless plosives like p even if it breaks the sonority sequencing principle so I would say it's not really wrong in english.

    • @Swenthorian
      @Swenthorian Рік тому +2

      Note that "English" does not always have a /g/; for many speakers, it's just the velar nasal.

  • @O.Reagano
    @O.Reagano Рік тому +4

    You have the coolest and most unique video style man, those hands are such an interesting addition

  • @risinglabyrinth5977
    @risinglabyrinth5977 Рік тому +50

    The attention to detail in this video is crazy, this man even animated the typing hands towards the beginning to match the real keystrokes. Great job 👍

  • @HuMoDz
    @HuMoDz 10 місяців тому +3

    Your animations look really cool and unique!

  • @marmarchive
    @marmarchive Рік тому +14

    Bro is the irl newspeak engineer 💀

  • @joe_z
    @joe_z Рік тому +30

    0:28 I'm very disappointed that the Vsauce music didn't start playing.

  • @lazy_bt
    @lazy_bt Рік тому +95

    in the example paragraph at 10:34, there are already some words in the original that could be swapped out for shorter ones. the word "only" could be substituted for "one". "the _one_ problem left" is already something valid in english, even if not as instinctive as saying "only", and sometimes saying "the ONE thing" can have different meanings. so maybe part of the length of english comes down to word choice.
    but then theres expressions and stuff that could just be shortened to other phrases, and even if they were to sound awkward at first, if the goal is efficiency and speed then it would probably work in time. i know glish was made with the entire point of it being "english but short" but making a conlang out of english with shorter wording could work too.
    i love how english, such a short language already, can be made even shorter, like! portuguese WISHES it were this short already 😂 and im sure the finnish watching this are all like, *_you want even LESS syllables?!_* and after all this, antidisestablishmentarianism isnt even translated into glish with the translator in the desciption!

    • @flucoze0
      @flucoze0 7 місяців тому

      i was quite upset that antidisestablishmentarianism was not glish-ified myself

  • @leenaahmad7860
    @leenaahmad7860 2 місяці тому +4

    english makharij woah never thought i'd come across this

  • @lexihunter1804
    @lexihunter1804 Рік тому +13

    The art style is really unique and fluid!
    (The art style is lih neek and floodhd!)

  • @yash1152
    @yash1152 Рік тому +8

    1:09 the hand cursor was a suuuuuper awesome anchor. brilliant. ingenuine (:

  • @Turabbo
    @Turabbo Рік тому +11

    Absolutely awesome video dude. Not only a talented engineer but a great animator and presenter too. This was really interesting

  • @jtpikachu1012
    @jtpikachu1012 11 місяців тому +3

    Your voice sounds exactly like my friend's voice and it makes me smile hearing it

  • @chammy2812
    @chammy2812 Рік тому +193

    I think it would help a lot to make it much more intelligible if you at least tried to force letters to have the same phoneme order. I know your directed graph is supposed to somewhat do this, but it allows consonants that are in the first syllable to be the coda of the Glish word. If you had your directed graph instead take 2 lists of IPA symbols (one for the onset of the syllables and one for the codas, it might make some easier to understand words.
    For example: Problem -> Rahrmp. While all these sounds appear in the word. The P in "Problem" going to the end makes it arguably harder to distinguish than if it was left out entirely, Similar for the R that appears there too. Despite them being phonemes that are in the original word. If instead you initially restricted the /p/, /r/, and maybe /b/ to be available in the onset and maybe the /b/, /l/ and /m/ to be available in the coda, it might generate some easier to read mappings. Along with following your strategy of relaxing these restrictions as the generator fails.
    The problem I see with the generated words is that while they may have the same set of sounds, they are so jumbled up (and missing some) that it makes it impossible to try to guess. So anything that could somehow restrict the order of the sounds to be more like the original would help a lot for readability.

    • @paralogical-dev
      @paralogical-dev  Рік тому +74

      very true! That would likely help out. I actually have a TODO for that in my code that I never got to 😅 Though additional restrictions like this do make it harder to generate as it runs out of valid syllables a bit faster, so it may weirdly lead to more words having strange mappings. Though hopefully that would skew towards uncommon words, and it's probably still worth doing.

    • @chammy2812
      @chammy2812 Рік тому +5

      @@paralogical-dev of course, it’s easier said than done. Really enjoyed the video though, it was a fun idea!

    • @JonahHW
      @JonahHW Рік тому +3

      ​@@paralogical-devto help with that problem, maybe it could be added as another stage before the existing "try to form a syllable from existing sounds" one, so that (in theory) it never makes a worse mapping than the existing code does

    • @moongazer07
      @moongazer07 Рік тому

      @@paralogical-dev i made this:
      ABEFGHIKLMNOPRSTUVWY
      i calling it the park alphabet

    • @antipastamony
      @antipastamony Рік тому +5

      it’d also help to generate words in multiple stages. the first pass would generate a set of potential words that could all be considered “good” mappings. the second pass would be about deciding which words get to reserve each syllable. this would solve cases where a word with 2 good mappings picks one that collides with many other words down the road when its other choice didn’t have any collisions at all.

  • @Fisk237
    @Fisk237 Місяць тому +12

    1:27 jumpscare warning

    • @meticulous_mot
      @meticulous_mot 24 дні тому +3

      I did not expect this to be serious 😭😭😭

  • @JB52520
    @JB52520 Рік тому +40

    I love that "mapping" is "mip". MIP mapping is a common technique in computer graphics to avoid aliasing. It means _multum in parvo_, or "much in little".

  • @PauloRodrigues-d9j
    @PauloRodrigues-d9j 4 місяці тому

    you're absolutely insane. great storytelling, sound logic, and perfect balance between complexity and simplicity. make more vids, you have a talent :)

  • @Endermanch
    @Endermanch Рік тому +16

    That was an moyngzmz vid and a great ahpst! Veh, some of the words seem to kyahsk the dree stinggd ones, as can be seen at 12:20. (Also -> Law)

  • @TattedFaceJoey
    @TattedFaceJoey Рік тому +17

    3:52 is my favourite part of this video.

    • @bananaman7216
      @bananaman7216 Рік тому +4

      Duckduckduckduckduck

    • @PurpiedrawsWu
      @PurpiedrawsWu Рік тому +4

      Actually, with duck, it’s pronounced
      Duckduckduck duck duckduck dduckk-
      The order of vs and o is as follows
      Duck duck duck

    • @tookiecar1
      @tookiecar1 4 місяці тому

      Same

  • @segganew
    @segganew Рік тому +11

    8:31 congratulations, you have (re)discovered Markov chains!

  • @DailyLifeSolution
    @DailyLifeSolution 21 день тому

    Your video worths a watch just for the content, it also worth a watch solely for its distinct style. I have been watching videos on UA-cam since 2010. UA-cam videos have become formulaic in their style in recent years. Your video is a surprise in both content and style. Thanks!

  • @Chariotuber
    @Chariotuber Рік тому +9

    what a cool project! I kinda want to see a variant where you allow 2 syllable words. It won't be as efficient but would make mappings more recognizable. You can call it two-glish lol.

  • @justZ00
    @justZ00 3 місяці тому +4

    the "the office" reference in 3:21 made my day

  • @cam_the_speedrunner6500
    @cam_the_speedrunner6500 6 місяців тому +3

    One thing that could help is having the generated glish words start and end with the same sound as the original

  • @FancyDuck16
    @FancyDuck16 Місяць тому +1

    I absolutly LOVE the refrence to the office with "Why Use Many Word When Few Word Do Trick." Well done, sir

  • @abeoist
    @abeoist Рік тому +19

    This video is perfect on so many levels, I'm in awe! Animations, grabbing attention, humor, not making the viewer feel dumb in spite of the amount of new information to process, explaining this information so a 3 y old could understand, the programming, idea, execution, and probably many more I didn't even pay attention to. Just WOW!

  • @waldolemmer
    @waldolemmer 2 місяці тому +4

    7:45 "r" can actually be followed by "b", such as in "barbed wire", "Arby", "orb", etc.

  • @diabl2master
    @diabl2master Рік тому +18

    6:04 ... Did you just not want to admit that the last syllable of changes is "jizz"? Its not "juzz" like you claim.

  • @houserhouse
    @houserhouse 7 місяців тому +1

    This is a fantastic video. One of the best I've seen in a long time

  • @sage5296
    @sage5296 Рік тому +11

    4:52 apparently most languages just don't have spelling bees because unlike english, their spelling actually makes sense lmao so it's more or less trivial

    • @deftoneslover
      @deftoneslover Рік тому

      fun fact I learned thanks 👏

    • @doodoo2065
      @doodoo2065 11 місяців тому

      It was always fun watching movies based on english culture and having characters fail at spelling bees when the movie itself is dubbed to spanish

  • @Sturzfaktor2
    @Sturzfaktor2 Рік тому +27

    Great video. Didn't know I'd find a linguistics experiment that captivating. Recently I've been playing Cyberpunk 2077, and they invented some practical monosyllabic slang words that are quite recognizable: "sitch" (situation), "preem" (premium, great, awesome), "klep" (stealing, stemming from Greek "kleptein", I presume).

    • @tonywebert8326
      @tonywebert8326 Рік тому +6

      Pretty sure Kim Possible invented "sitch"

    • @Sturzfaktor2
      @Sturzfaktor2 Рік тому +2

      @@tonywebert8326 The game is based on a tabletop RPG from the 90s (and books, I believe), though I don't know when the words were actually invented.

    • @smergthedargon8974
      @smergthedargon8974 Рік тому +7

      I've actually heard sitch long before Cyberpunk 2077. It's a very 2000s slang term to me.

    • @r0tting.fairie
      @r0tting.fairie 10 місяців тому +3

      sitch is definitely old, but the other ones are new for me!

    • @legoerofeggos
      @legoerofeggos 10 місяців тому +2

      klep is from kleptomaniac, and calling someone a klepto is already sorta a thing

  • @fourierfoyer365
    @fourierfoyer365 3 місяці тому +13

    3:52 DUCK!!

  • @danielhallback
    @danielhallback 7 місяців тому +2

    I’m here from the Chess video! Liked and subscribed !

  • @rikschaaf
    @rikschaaf Рік тому +13

    8:21 I like shnek. It's a good word.

    • @JulesMeiSP
      @JulesMeiSP 7 місяців тому

      Just so you know it's a slur for women genitalia in french

  • @Uber_Jester
    @Uber_Jester Рік тому +11

    This reminds me so much of one of those kid languages taken to the extreme and fledged out. I can't be the only one that had a code language with some of my friends in school. Soon, if not now, kids will have AI assist them in fully developing it. Never occurred to me that AI may have an impact on language far quicker than traditional shift.

  • @alexjamesmalcolm
    @alexjamesmalcolm Рік тому +16

    You built an anticipation through this video by focusing on the requirements and goals for 2/3 of it before you introduced that a computer was going to do the work. This did a great job at breaking down the problem and making it very understandable. Saying that a computer will solve the problem with code earlier would’ve somehow reduced the quality of the video in a way I don’t know if I could describe well. I am a programmer too for context.

  • @doce3609
    @doce3609 9 місяців тому

    This is simply amazing.
    Also I love the presentation style with the little hands that do things. Very amusing

  • @masonyoung1502
    @masonyoung1502 8 місяців тому +3

    He some how made the language you use while having a stroke

  • @anorak_05
    @anorak_05 Рік тому +9

    This is absolutely incredible! I actually always wondered if there was more to syllables than what was taught in elementary school, so this was really insightful.

  • @Yadobler
    @Yadobler Рік тому +6

    5:00 as a comsci major and linguistics minor student, I just came to the thought of hashmapping words to monosyllabic keys

  • @Baditow
    @Baditow Місяць тому

    these are things I've always thought about but never articulated or educated myself on. thanks for the insight.

  • @urphakeandgey6308
    @urphakeandgey6308 Рік тому +90

    When I was a kid, the clapping method for syllables always confused me. It took an interest in linguistics to finally realize the vowels were what you were really counting.
    This is made even more obvious in Japanese. In Japanese, people often count each hiragana/katakana character as a single syllable. Japanese has no lone consonant sounds except for "nn." This is also why their accents do stuff like "MaKuDoNaRuDo" and "hotto doggu." Notice how they inject vowels into everything even when there are none.

    • @cubing7276
      @cubing7276 Рік тому +13

      no, their english sounds like that because of their phonotactics. in japanese, the largest syllable possible is a consonant plus a "y" sound, plus a vowel, plus an ending n.

    • @cordeaux
      @cordeaux Рік тому +1

      japanese doesn't have syllables... it's useless to analyse it with syllables when it is based around morae

    • @cubing7276
      @cubing7276 Рік тому +7

      @@cordeaux the *timing* is said to follow mora but syllabic analysis still works and especially useful if you want to compare the number of syllables between languages

    • @pb7199
      @pb7199 Рік тому +11

      Sort of! Japanese people don't count syllables like we do in English (they count mora which is the minimum sound unit) but syllables are a universal principle of language so they still have them. The reason they inject vowels in places is because Japanese has different rules than English for building a syllable. In English we are allowed to have complex consonant clusters or 3 or even 4 consonants together e.g STROBES (s-t-r-oh-b-z) or TWELFTHS (t-w-e-l-f-th-s). Japanese syllables on the other hand are not allowed consonant clusters and have to conform to a (consonant)-vowel-(N) structure. So STROBES would become su-to-roo-bu-zu. Notice that they retain the long vowel length of the English diphthong and that the final consonant is a Z not an S. So they are basing the transliteration on the pronunciation not the English spelling. When spoken however some of the vowels can become muted to the point that they sound like they are omitted. Su-to-roo-bu-zu could be spoken as sto-roob-zu which is 3 syllables.

    • @cordeaux
      @cordeaux Рік тому +2

      @@pb7199 I understand though I could argue against syllables being universal to every language - the need for a syllable to have a nucleus kind of disallows some constructions made in Nuxalk (and other languages) with the existence of the phrase clhp'xwlhtlhplhhskwts'
      [xɬpʼχʷɬtʰɬpʰɬːskʷʰt͡sʼ], without a single sonorant (though, even though it is definitely not conceptualised in syllables, syllables with voiceless vowels as nuclei - as in the u in japanese tsuki, suki, desu, and other words - do exist and could then explain this as being syllables with fricative nuclei - as in some sino-tibetan languages like Yi/nuoso - but voiceless)). But, I can find one example of a word in nuxalk which does not support this - qʼtʰ - which does not have a true syllable nucleus. My understanding of syllables is that they are not innate but a human way of understanding speech - just as word boundaries are not innate to the speech content we produce. If voiceless fricatives can constitute the nucleus of a syllable, there’s no reason why a word like strengths couldnt be analysed as bisyllabic streng kths besides from preconceived notions of phonology and syllables in english (the same goes for some pronunciations of perpetually, where the “per” is pronounced solely as an aspirated voiceless bilabial plosive - does the syllable nucleus become the glottal fricative or technically a voiceless schwa (even though english speakers might not perceive it that way) or is there now a syllable without a nucleus in that word?

  • @ReubenJohn0
    @ReubenJohn0 Рік тому +16

    I consider myself a UA-cam educational video connoisseur 👨‍🍳, but this one's been the most refreshing one in a while.
    It reminds me of when I watched minutephysics for the first time.
    I feel like the UA-cam algorithm has been compromising on originality and quality for a while. @Paralogical I can say this with certainty: keep this up and you'll be big. ❤

  • @francescosaverioriccardell4751
    @francescosaverioriccardell4751 24 дні тому +6

    Why am I watching this ?

  • @Mikerdlt
    @Mikerdlt 2 місяці тому +1

    Big Bro on that Minitrue grind

  • @jeff__w
    @jeff__w Рік тому +11

    I thought, watching this video, that it would end up with some nonsensical result (like those “Reform English spelling” videos you sometimes see). But it actually followed through on its premise-and had an actual usable demo! The whole thing-the information, the presentation, the logic-were all _really_ well-done. Surprising, amazing and quite brilliant in its own way!

  • @ReBufff
    @ReBufff Рік тому +8

    Chinese is mono-syllabic too but they have 4-5 tones for each sound meaning what we would use to express emotion in English is used to change the entire meaning in Chinese

    • @arie1906
      @arie1906 Рік тому

      the same vietnamese, it's ironic that both languages belong to two separate language families and I don't know which language developed first...

    • @mythrin
      @mythrin Рік тому

      @@arie1906 Vietnamese tones largely came from Chinese after the the ancient Vietnamese adopted a form of Chinese known as Annanese Chinese. After they stopped speaking Chinese, the tones remained and were even applied to native Austroasiatic, non-Chinese words. Of course, some Vietnamese tones uniquely evolved and aren't found in any other language. But the basis for tones in the first place originated from Chinese.

    • @angelodc1652
      @angelodc1652 Рік тому +2

      Fun fact: The word for cockroach 蟑螂 is one of the rare few where it isn't monosyllabic. You always need two hanzi to write it and they have no meaning on their own

    • @conbrio27
      @conbrio27 Рік тому

      @@mythrin Very curious about this. Can you point me to a book or source on the historical development of tones in Vietnamese and how it was influenced by Chinese tones?

    • @conbrio27
      @conbrio27 Рік тому

      @@angelodc1652 You might be in for a bit of a surprise. These words, called 双音节语素 or 双音节词汇 are many. From Baidu:
      琵琶、乒乓、澎湃、鞑靼、尴尬、荆棘、蜘蛛、踯躅、踌躇、仿佛、瓜葛、忐忑、淘汰、饕餮、倜傥、含糊、慷慨、叮当、蹊跷、玲珑、葱茏、葫芦、糊涂、匍匐、灿烂、蜿蜒、苍茫、朦胧、苍莽、邋遢、啰嗦、怂恿、桫椤、倥侗、蜻蜓、轰隆、当啷、惝恍、魍魉、缥缈、飘渺、耷拉、蜈蚣、蓊郁、珊瑚、疙瘩、蚯蚓、惺忪、铃铛、奚落、褡裢、茉莉、蚂螂、窟窿、伉俪、蝴蝶、笊篱、蹦达、蟪蛄、狡狯、狡猾、蛤蚧、蛤蜊、牡丹、磅礴、提溜、等等

  • @Wolfmoooon
    @Wolfmoooon 9 місяців тому +1

    I had the same issue in elementary school lol. Thanks for teaching me.

  • @pb7199
    @pb7199 Рік тому +22

    This was a beautiful experiment and as a former linguistics major I thought it was really fun!
    I think one thing you might want to consider is how to treat grammar. Bubble, bubbles & bubbled are not really 3 separate words, in practice we understand it is the same word just conjugated for different tenses. This is because humans do not rote learn every individual word and its separate forms, we learn root words and grammatical patterns. There's no problem with treating them as unique words but unless the shortened syllables also have a consistent grammatical pattern, doing so would in effect remove certain grammatical functions from Glish that exist in English. Perhaps you could try a different approach where only the root of each word would become a single syllable and grammatical particles are tacked onto the end like in Korean.
    One other thing to consider is whether or not you want to remain within the phonotactic constraints of English. Many of the generated syllables in your examples do not follow English constraints, like "meedhd" for "thirty", or "blegd" for "bubbled". If you remain within English constraints your directed graphs would be a lot smaller but so would your pool of legal syllables.

    • @BecauseICantEdit
      @BecauseICantEdit Рік тому +1

      Conjugation strictly refers to verbs. Only bubbled is a conjugation of the verb "to bubble" (simple past or past participle for the perfect). If it can also be used as an adjective, in which case it is a derivation of bubble, but still considered a separate word even while containing the free morpheme bubble. Only "bubble" and "bubbles" are the same word as they are both a noun inflected for number.

    • @Ralminron
      @Ralminron Рік тому

      I would say "blegd" is a perfectly reasonable English syllable. We have the one-syllable words "blogged" and "begged", just smoosh them together and you have "blegged".