Grow light controller comparison | AC Infinity | Vivosun | Trolmaster | Telos Growcast | Growflux
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Have you tried any of these controllers and what do you think?
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There are a lot of new controllers on the market now. I have tested some general grow room controllers by @acinfinity @VIVOSUN @TrolMaster and some dedicated grow lighting controllers from @TelosLighting and @growfluxinc3939
Full review videos of some of the products featured here:
Telos Grow cast: • Growcast Lighting cont...
Vivosun: • VIVOSUN Smart Grow Sys...
AC Infinity: • AC Infinity UIS Eco sy...
Trolmaster: • The new Trolmaster Ten...
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I understand the plants don't need a sunrise/sunset, but as a home grower I find it very handy as I am not growing in a controlled room, so that you don't get massive swings in temps or VPD/Rh, so it is useful for me, even if its not absolutely required for the plants. I have the M69 Pro controller, and find it brilliant especially with the automations, and you can pretty much do everything from your phone on an app, and its easy to really dial in for lights on/off. It would have been worth mentioning the App as for me that is a big selling point, as you can do all changes without entering the tent.
I think thats a pretty typical feature though, vivosun and others all allow you to control everything via app
I agree that ramping up and down lights, AC, … would create fewer shocks to the plants.
I think this review would have been better if it were more structured. First, establish the absolutely required, pretty much required, nice to have, and really not useful features categories. Then walk through each controller highlighting how it met each feature and some quantified metric as to how easy it is to use the feature. Finally, do a recommendation based on the home grower use case and you can highlight that if a persons use case is different than what was stated they may be better off with a different product.
Stress can have rewards
This info helped me rewire my lights that weren't compatible with the AC infinity controller. Now I can control all my lights from one app and I removed the driver from my tents. It's about 5F cooler in the tent on average 👍
Congradulations on hitting 100 000 subscribers!!!!
Thanks. Only took 7 years😬
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@@MIGROLIGHTneed an update with the 69 PRO+ controller, the VPD function and all the associated components that can do multispeed are insanely cool
Thanx again Shane, great information as allways.
And congratulations on 100 000!
Should be a million+ great content!! Thanks for the info
Thanks Shane for the solid info yet again.
I love the AC Infinity controller 69 Pro and the various UIS devices and adapters. The automation trigger options are really nice. I use it with a pair of Migro ARAY 4s, an AC T4 exhaust fan, AC S6 oscillating fans, and an AC control plug for a heater.
I know the fans and lights can be controlled with $5 timers, but I'm not sure if there's a standalone temp sensor available to power a heater on.
Overall, I really appreciate the environmental numbers at a glance on my phone and the historical graph data to see how my grow environment looks over time.
I think if u need a heater inside a grow tent, then its time to upgrade to some more powerful lights. I use 300w inside 4x4 and 750w inside 8x8 tent and its never lacking heat even in winter.
@@youtubetruthlife4750 Stupid comment. Cold climate in early veg with lower PPFD will need a heater. And I don't want my plants sitting at 55f when I turn the lights out. Adding heat in veg when lights don't provide enough will raise the VPD and transpiration rate.
@@youtubetruthlife4750 how bout when light off in winter live in the northeast it was -15 for two weeks straight
@@chrisputnam7354 Yea might be some struggle with low indoor temperature. Even when -10 degrees outside, its still 17-19 in the tents when lights are off (living room).
Exactly what I'm looking for and just in time for Cyber Monday
thanks for everything you do!! :)
Great video, as always and wanted to say I love the AC Infinity controller great product and the price won't break you and I give ten stars for all there products especially there oscillating 6" fan no problems and going on a year and they're still working.
I've got my aray 5x5 on a digital timer in the ac infinity 4x4, 6inch exhaust with carbon filter and 69 pro controller with 2 ac infinity fans, perfect setup!!!! Adding migro UVB soon.
THANK YOU AGAIN SIR i was just about to buy another one of these
Congratulations to your 100k subs 👍💪
You really deserve even more!
Thank you for what you do God happy Thanksgiving
Should mention the ability to control multiple tents.
Thanks you so much Buddy ...
One thing to note about the AC Infinity controller you can buy it with the fan for the same price so when you combo with it, it's almost free. I think vivo sun is this way too.
Vivosun sells a cheaper controller bundled with the duct fan called the E12 I believe. You pay a bit more for the E42a but I didn't need a 2nd controller so I went cheap and got the E12
@michaelboucheyii3383 ACI has the S4 or T4 inline fan with the Controller 69 Pro for 120$ with discount. They don't advertise that Fan comes with the 69 Pro controller, which is 100$ by itself.
@harlemstruggle OP mentioned vivosun. I'm not talking about ac infinity. If you would have looked up the model numbers, that would have been a dead giveaway
@michaelboucheyii3383 op mentioned both. For ACI it wasn't as clear because they have multiple tiers of controllers. 67, 69, 69, 69 pro, 69 pro + which look similar
Outdoors the dli is higher during the veg stage and decreases during flower period until harvest day. The spectrum and intensity changes the entire duration of the grow cycle. Some of the Hermie problems I believe are due to not following this idea. But what do I know? Lol😎 love migro!
Great Video as Always. Its a shame that there are No Controller in the 100 Euro Range available in Germany. Legalisation is coming and there is only overpriced bullshit. Would Die for an Ac Infinity Controller...edit: congrats on hitting 100 k subscribers Shane!! Much love and respect from Germany 💚🥦💚
I'm not sure about ac but vivosun includes their hub with their fan and filter if you buy the whole kit. Ac seems a little better, but vivosun is priced well and it connects easily
Don't you have anyone in the states that can ship one to you?
140,- für nen cloudline t4 und da ist ein 69Pro dabei!
No Amazon in your country that sucks
Good stuff. Cheers.
Sunrise sunset is so your dehu and hvac doesnt have such a quick change in temp/RH to deal with
Yes 👍
I use the sunset function for avoiding peak electricity times. I can have a 2 hour sunrise/sunset cycle and save a decent amount.
You will get a reduction in yield though...
Great video! Just wondering if you could go into more detail about the wiring you did to make the Vivosun work with the Aray light in the video. I also have the Aray 4x4 and that light is amazing!!!
I like my ACI Controller 69 because i can see & adjust all of my equipment remotely via an app on my phone whether im in the grow room or in Las vegas having a good time ..& all for a 100 bucks ..thats is quality 😎
bro i see your comments everywhere LOL...same i love my controller 69!
Best wishes to Bob Ross of home growing, and thank you for another very informative piece. I'd love to see a video about some ideas on mounting those things efficiently and elegantly -- if one happens to lack a dedicated mount. I really need some inspiration. Is are pegboards really the ultimate solution?
One question Shane, what wires do you change out to link Vivosun Growhub to Aray 4
Lit content as always ty
My Questions about AC Infinity Controller 69 (and Trolmaster):
1. Can you set separate light and dark settings for temp, humidity, max/min fan speed?
2. Can you set different light and dark temp settings to control a heater? So it keeps the space at say 25C during light period, and 20C during dark period.
3. Can you control a dehumidifier or only a humidifier?
Question about AC Infinity Controller 69, Trolmaster Controller, and Telos Growcast Light Only controller:
4. Does the controller provide finer and/or more accurate dimming control compared to the manual dimmer supplied with the light? Or does it depend on the brand of light and dimmers? I have a HLG Scorpion Diablo X.
I honestly love the ac infinity 69pro controller with built-in vpd HOWEVER the s6 oscillating fans are horrible quality and start making clicking noises very soon after purchase.
was hoping medic grow controller was included in this video. whats the best light you tested so far?
Please review grandmaster leds Borg and new controller when it releases Christmas! It looks absolutely insane 🔥
Hmm maybe use this sun rise sun set setup for vivarium purposes ( live plants but also have animals so giving a “natural “ lighting cycle can help the animals).
I got the vivosun since it came bundled with a fan and filter, but kinda regret not going ac infinity. The temp probe basically doesnt work so you have to rely on the units internal measurements for temp/humidity
Yeah my 69 pro seems to have issues turning off and on my photontek sq300w pro randomly when attached to the controller. I feel this wasnt an issue a while ago or i just hadnt noticed this happening until just recently which made me decide to run my light with its oem dimmer attached to a smart power strip. Also i would have issues with the light ever so slighly dimming itself like 30 PPFD then going back to its preset amount almost like its pulsing. Its very hard to notice by eye but can clearly see it when using a meter. Really disappointing since i would love to use the controller again to take advantage of the sunrise/sunset option as well as being avle to dim/brigthen my lights in 10% increments instead of the factory 25% steps. Also just recently started having issues with my controller running there smart plug i purchased to run my heater. It will recognize the plug then turn off then straight back on and will not allow me to control it rendering it useless. I feel there so called updates cause more issues then they resolve unfortunately. Other then these issues its a solid controller and would 100% recommend if they get these issues fixed.
im having similar issues on my 69 pro. got my ks3000 connected to it through their UIS Type-A adapter. Once or twice during the day the light shuts off randomly and after two seconds comes back on in 10% steps until set value is reached. was also thinking about using the dimmer knob with a classic timed-power switch for now, but i already fell in love with the sunrise/sunset function
@@BoOranito1 yes that's what Mine will do as well. I am not sure how many times it does this but it's definitely doing it. Only reason I decided to put it on a separate timer is because of fear of possible hermi issues with the lights doing this. I am not sure if that's something I need to worry about? Just did not want to take the chance and also figured it wasn't too good for the light itself.
Hey could you do a video on the mars hydro vg80. The only video I could find for light distances gave mesurements that defied the laws of physics so I'm not sure if they are any good or not.
I don't think the cable that connects the ACI controller to Migro Aray is available in the uk
You should do a review of the GML Borg
My trolmaster works great (overpriced tho) if u have a room with ac dehu humidifier fans etc..but for a tent ac infinty or vivo is great
Shane why do u have percentage on the dial ,i like the old one that u can hold par meter in 1hand and dial in the other , it's better than having to lower and lift to get correct numbers,love the new 5x5 very good.sun rise sunset don't use it as don't think it's needed.
I like using an actual building automation controller. There are many more options
Hey Shane , what’s your recommendation for the array 2. Small grow but like many looking to add more ai and sophistication?
If you mean controller a $5 timer is perfect. Nothing more required
@@MIGROLIGHTnah cmon man that’s not what I meant. You could easily attach a simple timer . I was thinking about something for dimming that could be accessed from the front or wireless without having to go around the back to find the driver with hard to see percentage readings, cmon man 😂
I own the hcs2 trolmaster and love it and I do have real time ppfd if you buy the sensor don't think you spoke about the other control abilities the tent x has I mean 100 % hydroponics control from sensor to valves and pumps fa
If i was in the market for a new light i would cop an aray 4x4 on looks alone.
5x5 fits in a 4x4 tent
Have you reviewed the Niwa control? I love all the different things it controls but I think the ac infinity is better for controlling lights so I use them both.
I use the NWIA controller for two years now and have really enjoyed it. I had an issue which one of the on/off relays going out which caused the plug to stay always on connected to the humidifier. Their custom support was great and got me up and going again quickly.
Do you have a video comparing duct fans and the noise they produce?
might as well at least show all the controllers not like there's that many on the market.
Gavita makes a really cool one...
How do you keep the heat down when you have a dehumidifier running for drying.
If your unit is big enough to output noticeable heat I would set it up in adjacent room that tent draws air from the will keep temps down some
@@nordicwarrior9566 IV got it in my lung room and it gets the room to hot 24 in there makes it 30 in the tent. Split air con is the only way to sort it I think. IV had a portable air con in the room as well on 17.
hello Shane, there are tents with a complete white, glossy coating inside that claim higher reflection/efficiency..maybe wanna test one of these? They go by the Name Growbox or Growbox 3.0 or homebox....Or maybe you have already?
home assistant + arduino for the win
I saw you did modifications on wire for vivo. Can you send me a link of spec for the color code Vivo customer support is horrible.
you guys doin a blackfriday sale?!?!?! thanks!
Built a scorpion diablo refurbished 6x qb648 refurbished boards wired in Series-Parallel to a inventronics eud-600s560dt and that is controlled by a telos growcast controller but it will not go to full power.
Holy cow 500$ for the Grow Flux is crazy expensive
i dont see mars and spiderfarm controllers in the lineup ? :D
For my situation the Telos Growcast fitted perfect, zero issius, and hands down the winner on the aesthetics.
Please do a review of the Optic LED v3 controller along with their SLIM 750s light, the spectrum control looks insane!
I'm suprised the Niwa isn't in this comparison
Why not tell all the features that the trolmaster have? You didn’t mention that it can control every thing from watering to ph to ppm to par to everything
I called it the most complex and sophisticated controller compared?
I figured "The Trolmaster" controlled just about everything. It's an entirely different beast than the controllers run by an App, or a simple, small screen.
Pretty much the "Professional" unit, and more in the league of other products that dose out nutes, and control pH, that we've had for awhile, but with lighting and other environmental measurements and control.
Quite a bit different, and does everything. The Trolmaster was great to use as a comparison, to these newer, inexpensive (mostly), but very functional controllers, suddenly widely available for smaller grows, especially.👍💯✌️
DO you have the TrollMaster?
Trolmaster customer support is appalling. I have the Tent-x and EC fan controller and there’s no way of knowing how it connects to the extraction fan.
Trolmaster wins by far
Also its the most expensive by far
I've had issues with the ac infinity pro controller. My hlg scorpion rspec far red would flicker if it wasn't at100%. I tried both type a and b adapters with the advice fron ac infinity to no avail. Now my aleius led just randomly shuts off for a few seconds and then turns back on.
Yes, we have had reports from many customers regarding this. I should have mentioned it in the video. AC Infinity say it will be resolved in the next software update..
That happened to me after a software update. i was able to uninstall the update and it worked again.
@carlosdanger788 Thank you for the response. I've downloaded every updat, and it still doesn't work. I even had the hlg tech try and help me with it. He also said this was pretty common.
@MIGROLIGHT thank you for the response Shane it is appreciated. Let's hope. In the mean time im back on the nearpow timers.
Everyone have problems with ac infinity