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How much LED watts per square foot for seedlings? To mimick the not much sun from early spring. For a veg garden. And same question for late spring when the sun is a bit stronger? So 30 watts per square feet is summer? I think I'm burning my seedlings. My lights don't have dimmers. And are the wattages per square foot are the same on while grow lights and non white grow lights.
150W per square foot for HPS. 250W per square foot for LEDs. Autos never yield well and use way too much electricity and are pointless to grow indoors. They are always less potent as well and not as fast as the 'CLAIMS' suggest. If you are not getting 0.85 - 1.25 grams per watt then you are not doing it properly. That should be easily possible with 2-3 weeks veg. I have personally seen Autos go to 130 days which is longer than regular indica strains. There is no advantage at all to growing Autos indoors at all.
sorry easy lumatek 600 pro 3g pre w EASY if people r telling u some thing and u do what u do my be is ignorant to say that they dont know what they r talking about . because my be then they can say u dont know what r u talking about. hmmm no hard filling only love from a dray jar.
You are not only the light guy you are the grow guy. I learned more from your 16 minute video than I have from watching hours and hours of the other guys. I learn from them too but you provide the information the way an old hippie needs to hear it; short and sweet. Thank you!!!
what I do is this. 13 hr veg cycle 13 hr flower cycle. 12 hours on 5.5 hours off then 1 hour on then 5.5 hours off for veg 13 hours for flower will increase yeilds without going back into veg cycle. it's the cut of point ie the maximum light it can grow flower in.
It's about using all the canopy space. You can do that say in a 4' 4' with one big plant or 5 small plants or 9 smaller plants. More plants less vegging time. As long as the canopy is filling the area nicely it doesn't matter.
In my experience, a minimum of 5 weeks in veg is ideal. The plants seem to show a truer phenotypical expression when I allow them to naturally reach sexual maturity before I flip to flower. Most of the autos I've grown take that long to start really flowering also.
I can definitely confirm his range for the 4x4 tent dried content weight. It is spot on. I get this range every cycle (2-3 photo plants, no CO2, 4-5 months from seed- they wind up close to the roof) obviously varying by genetics, and I really have no clue what I’m doing and have only been at it a couple years now.
No surprises here. Everything you said seems Spot On, from my experience. The plant numbers, Watts per tent size, umols at the canopy, and expected harvest weight, were the best recommendations I've heard. And all in one short video. Perfect, Shane. Much Thanks!
I just finished my first indoor grow in a 5x5 under an SE 7000 730w…four plants …two week slow dry…weighed in at 735g…..thanks for the info….really like your work
what I do is this. 13 hr veg cycle 13 hr flower cycle. 12 hours on 5.5 hours off then 1 hour on then 5.5 hours off for veg 13 hours for flower will increase yeilds without going back into veg cycle. it's the cut of point ie the maximum light it can grow flower in.
@@graemebuchan1919 maybe you need to check Australia's prices. Why would I need to watch the news. That's the last place you get the truth. We pay between 26 to 38 cents a kilowatt. Not 12 cents.
Great video Migro. It really is nice to see someone put it all out there and break it down for people like myself that just want to know what we need to know. This definitely saves me from oversizing a light for my 4×4. Thank you
@@mspahn1967 check out Dr MJ Coco it's also a very helpful channel for growing with coco. Pretty much all the info you need is on one or the other channel. Best of luck. 👍
A person I know said she prefers more smaller plants because of the variety. It's great to grow ginormous plants if you have room but I also believe you build a tolerance to one strain so if you've got different varieties you can switch strains and don't have to smoke as much!
Hey mate I've found the best strains don't throw out us much but that why you have twice the amount of them, I prefer quality over quantity, I've kept the same strains for 3 years because every other is just abit dull.
@Johndoe yeah man Shane is the main guy I watch for lighting and a couple other but he is by far the best even got some migro gear and yeah man I'm also just agreeing with the main comments as I've noticed usually the plant that yield heaps are good but I think the smaller yielding plants taste better just my own experience and I can fit more in but I've had a few big growing plants but didn't fill the canopy aswell.
@Johndoe yeah man I'm in Australia it's easy to find strains just haven't found any that keep up with the og kush and the girls scout cookies crack I do have grandfather og going and axe murderer they look great but I don't really have high hopes nice size though but yeah man I alway keep the strains I like best got a few more to try but yeah man, can't beat flavour, been looking at supersoil looks pretty interesting.
With good variation and plants about 1.4m + 16L pot in coco i manage to pull 2.1g/W as my record after 8 days of drying. Normally i manage to make about 1.6-1.7 with my LED mars hydro in 1m x 2m high tent. In my best grow i was using CO2 suplementation.
You'll have so much bud after first harvest it will make your head spin. I can see how folks get themselves caught up in this game. The numbers are crazy😂 and i love it
A trick to veg out one photoperiod and harvest during the veg is to stick one photoperiod with a bunch of staggered autoflowers. While the photoperiod veg's out to fill the 4x4 you harvest the autoflowers as they ready to clear up more room for the photoperiod. You might have to take plants out to free up space so need another area to finish an auto or two off every now and then. By the time you harvest the last auto you should have a photoperiod that's taking up the entire space once trained out.
@Johndoe I didn't do this just so you know, but the person who did grew fem seeds so no pollinating I believe. Didn't come across any seeds in the bud.
@Johndoe did you grow out the seeds you got? Roughly how many grew to be auto and how many grew to be photo? If you got any autos, how did they taste? Typical ruderalis BS or like a photoperiod? Cool stuff though
I agree these numbers are more or less valid. Some people prefer to go sea of green with alot more plants (clones) and get done in 12-14 weeks max with each run. For the simple reason of squeezing in one more grow per year. The average yield is pretty much the same. Let's say: Guy #1 uses a Scrog (screen of green) setup (harvests twice a year so 2x750g in ~32 weeks) Guy #2 uses a SOG (sea of green) setup (harvests three times a year so 3x500g in ~32 weeks) As for watering, that can become very tricky in a SCROG especially if you don't wanna involve any pumps at all. Also, yes it can become pretty annoying as well if ure growing with the SOG method, when temps are on the hotter side and the plants want a watering every 2 days. But to each his own. peace!
I've lost count of the grow light videos and finally I come across yourself and long story short I just ordered the array 4×4 all of your work is interesting and above all accurate big thanks Shane
I'm definitely going to check out your lights. I don't have a problem with my current yeilds, heck I have enough product to roll around in but it's time for a new light and my priority is a safe efficient light
what I do is this. 13 hr veg cycle 13 hr flower cycle. 12 hours on 5.5 hours off then 1 hour on then 5.5 hours off for veg 13 hours for flower will increase yeilds without going back into veg cycle. it's the cut of point ie the maximum light it can grow flower in.
@@Ms13Funpolice Yes it does work brilliant. See I grow organic which is bound to be different in this way because organic is healing for the ladies. Terps also increase due to organic. . Same speed of growth and same harvest give or take depending on genetics. I'm a spiritual leader and I am aware we can programme the water with our energy because water has consciousness. Which helps make the buzz n terps be that little bit better than it was before I started this technique. It's just most think that's crazy even though there are books on how water has consciousness. She remembers everything.
@@geo_neo9 that's great your discussing water... I agree totally and have started my own water treatment methods for our drinking water. This is my first time growing so totally green... But l am keen on EVERYTHING being around natures code and as far removed from toxins as possible. Nutritionally rich living soil, clean water, natural sunlight where possible, and a natural environment around birds, bees and... so my theory is playing recordings of nature's sounds can only be beneficial too, and not detrimental? 🤔 I am sure many have tried the living soils and l imagine once in an enclosed tent the pests can hatch and be trapped in, and problems persist from there? I have 4 auto's growing in home made nutritional compost and thus far been outside 24/7 for close to a couple of months. Thus far they are thriving and any bugs that may have landed have a tiny nibble and depart as in true gardening. With enough nutrients the plant makes eating it difficult for bugs. Their job is to clear decay, so any decay should be removed asap so they don't hang around... My aim is to move them into a 4 x 4 tent to finish off. Am l destined for problems? My concerns are from an organic mindset nearly everything is genetically modified, from strains to feeding artificial nutrition... so is it possible to be more organic in an artificial environment?
I’m currently in a 2x4, using 2x3 of the space for a 7-gallon cloth pot. Second grow in this setup. First time I had 2 plants in 2 gallon plastic pots, and I harvested roughly 98-103 grams of dry weight. I’ve trained the next lady similarly, just in a much larger pot. Her 8-10 main colas have been tied out to the sides and the center of the plant is going crazy now! She’s in week 5 of flower and she’s still stacking. I’ve had to turn the light down from the 1300 PPFD to around Shane’s 800 micro moles/PPFD . She’s no longer showing symptoms of light stress. It’s really crucial to have your growth chamber dialed in. My VPD was off, so I was getting some signs of stress. I dimmed back the lights to 68% 75%, roughly, and increased extraction fan speed as well as increased the humidity a tad. Soil ph is 6.33, and I continue to feed her with silica, CalMag, liquid bone meal, calcium and a .5ml/gallon of 0-1-0 carbon. Ph of 6.4-6.8. All of the nutrients are bioavailable, while the plant is immersed in living soil. Hopefully I’ll get closer to 6+ ounces. A half pound would be wonderful but, I just need to keep her doing her thing.
@@baylenthedogg3242 Oh man, it was a wonderful learning experience in the sense that, if you’re going to use a 7-gallon pot, make sure that you’re pushing around 250-300 watts LED light source. I’m going to use that understanding, as I look towards my next opportunity! I’m beginning to understand how the living soil can stay living in a wonderful, recirculating system. That’s golden and, it has a lot to do with fungi, among other constituents but fungi!!! Garden giant or King straphoria is a wonderful friend in your garden. Barely scratching the surface but yes, always absorbing information through trial and error or, FU:FO ratio, fuck up, to find out. Thanks for asking though, I really appreciate it!
@@jakebrake7054 thanks for answering. I've grown I'm the woods years ago when I needed money and my friend that helped me robbed me during one of the hardest times of me life. Safe to say he's no longer a friend. But I've never grown indoor.. my wife is disabled, she has been on oxycodone for 3yr from the pain clinic.. and decided 2 weeks ago to quit as she could control them anymore, as they was controlling her. I don't really know what I want to do regarding grow medium.. I've always wanted to do DWC "deep water culture" and wanted to do no till living soil. I may just use coco and perlite and a little fox farms.. add gaia green 4-4-4 all purpose and then 0-2-4 'i think' boom boost. Mr Canucks on UA-cam and Cali green both use this organic method and it seems to do decent. I know marijuana had brought a glow back into her eyes soul and smile. That I haven't seen in years, I can't afford what they want for it here and God only knows what's in this stiff. I live in prohibition state well technically we just legalized but can only buy outside of state until 2025. So I can't throw them outside and let em grow. So indoors it is, but $ is a issue so I'm debating on a 2x2 by mars hydro but would love a AC Infinity 4x4 kit but there $985 even with $100 promo code. But the way look into he grow pro 1800 led light. It's pushing over 1000 par I'm every corner, and is $420.. the guy on UA-cam that reviews all lights just posted a video and they are the pound for pound best light.
I been tying since last year! You name it I seen videos step by step! This year pack seeds an 3 step process, oh an one shot of mulch juice,,run it thru cheese cloth ,let it get room temp an then pour it on,oh an a cage with plastic around it??? Left them cause I thought nothing would happen,then weeks later,wow,ii pruned them an they are beautiful, I went old school outside!!!! What works for one may not work for another!!!!!!
Your numbers are the right range. I’ve been getting average of 1.35-1.6 oz per sqft in my 5 x 2.5 tent growing 3 plants in 5 gallon pots. Running 400watts of led. About 1.3-1.5gpw. I don’t use co2 but that’s a pretty packed tent
Yes Shane you couldn't be more right and you can't argue with the science. Also 50/50 soil perlite in autopots is great results. Just as good as coco but without having to worry about pH so much
The only thing coco, rockwool, clay, perlite does is displace water totals, hydro with nothing is all the water, coco is going to make up 90 some percent water that would be there in hydro, it’s the nutrients that does it all with an amount of water. I hand water with buffered nutrients so I don’t have to PH and I don’t have to flush, I just don’t feed after the last week and don’t waste time flushing.
@@doveseye.4666 The unfortunate thing about the buffered nutrients, such as advance nutrients, is they don't work in autopots. I've a new brand I'm using called Mills, the pH holds better than advance in my dwc and has zero gunk in the autopot.
@@bananas7479 I use Mantis Buffered Nutrients, a one bottle entire grow, seed to harvest and only when you water, it’s just fantastic, I use it on people who don’t know what’s wrong with there grow and Mantis just fixes any cannabis plant, I get great results, I don’t know about the Autopots, but Mantis is spectacular in hydro , I guess move it or keep it moving so the buffer doesn’t settle, I’m disabled and I can’t be messing with hoses and measures and cables, no way, I appreciate the one bottle entire grow thing, smoking or eating Mantis is only for cannabis. Funny thing, I’m using the Autopots, but since I can’t set it up, I use the 5 gallon bucket’s because they are tall enough to grab from a wheelchair, but the plants soon outgrow me, this time I’m growing sugar black rose with slabs from the ground, not on a table I can’t reach.
@@doveseye.4666 Well done man hats of to you. I've often wondered how I could continue to grow if I had a disability. I like to have an idea for unexpectedness of life. I will look up this mantis stuff. Have you looked into biotabs or grow dots. Water only. Ah sure with a one bottle thing what's the difference
Love autoflowers. Just made a batch of la rica cbd from elite seeds in only 62 days from seed to cut. Delicious, Beautyful and magic. Less yield than feminised but almost two months less of electricity and work too
Pretty much what I surmised after buying a few lights. I have a 150 watt light for two plants in a 2x3, a 300 for 1 square meter 42 inch by 36 inch and also 489 watts for another square meter. All are producing dense bud. Then I joined the two tents with both lights and I get some over lap in the middle for less reflective walls..
I think your bang on there Shane good info. I only run my HPS or MH in the coldest days of the winter. LED knocks a full third off my power draw and the terp profile has become incredible.
This is my second grow. First time was indoor all cococoir. The yield was decent. Now on my second grow, I did indoor and outdoor. My outdoors grew extra large and wide. Buds everywhere on both plants. 4th week of flower and the smell outside is ridiculously aromatic.. the 4 plants I have indoors now didn’t yield as much as the two outside which are still a few weeks away from harvest.. I used raised beds soil in a hole I dug in the ground and filled the bottom with dry and green material and fresh alfalfa plants. Then dumped the soil in the hole. It became living soil with worms and the whole nine. The yield looks to be over 1.lbs on both plants combined. It’s not about the medium it’s about the skills you have as a gardener/grower. I was a gardener before I started growing!..
I've given up on indoor growing it was barely worth it before but now with the hike in energy costs I think it'll be cheaper to stick to my dealer lol Sticking to seasonal outdoor grows now, the sun is best and its free. Its just not all year round for the type of crops I produce.. If you know what I mean ;)
@Johndoe Yea problem is mate, we no longer live in the 90s when the cost of electric wasent even a part of your monthly spend. It costs more to grow a plant than it costs to buy that equivilent weight in bud from a dealer, without the hassle of growing it, without waiting, without trimming and curing, so whats the point? Unless you getting a kilo per plant your at a loss. Seasonal outdoor grows is where its at now. Thanks to the greedy energy sector, nobodys going to be growing jack shit for a hobby with an indoor setup under artificial light. Thats my problem.
Thank you for educating us I have learned so much form you and I trust your teaching 100 percent it’s actually the truth thank you again you have saved me time and money also though me allot
what I do is this. 13 hr veg cycle 13 hr flower cycle. 12 hours on 5.5 hours off then 1 hour on then 5.5 hours off for veg 13 hours for flower will increase yeilds without going back into veg cycle. it's the cut of point ie the maximum light it can grow flower in.
Would love to see you test a lamp from invisible sun LED. I've been using their X Bar array and for a 240w draw It is insane. Review more UK products for us UK growers. Keep up the great work.👍🏼
I guarantee the people who say 3-4grams per watt are not accounting for the power used for AC / heating / dehumidification . When running CO2 in a closed system you will be able to pull more per sqm but the cost of power will even out your gpw. Then they figure they are getting 3gpw with their lights when in reality it’s only 1.5.
If without accounting ac, dehu and fans even with co2 getting over 3g/w you can only achieve with the biggest yielding strains and the quality usually sucks with those strains
On my 3rd run in a 4x4 with 780W total available...got 19 oz with 6 plants, 16 oz with 3 plants of photoperiods so far. I get great coverage with 2 monsterboard LEDs plus a Migro UV-B fixture....I'm also on Solar power! Booyah!
What watt is your solar panel to constantly run a 780W ? If you have not got a battery storage unit doesn’t it go off if there’s no sun ? I’ve been looking at a little hybrid system both small solar panels and a small wind turbine
One plant, G13 haze, 3x3 AC Infinity tent, spiderfarmer sf2000 200w led light. 319g total dried weight. Not sure if this is average or upper hand but I'm extremely impressed!!!
I would love to see a standard setup maybe the array 4 a fan and a extraction fan, then the option of a small oil rad for winter. All running and showing the pence per hour on a smart meter.
Thanks for the knowledge info and unbiased reviews! Just starting out and lights have been a huge headache! You made it easy! Here I come migro array 8!
I´m quite happy with my resoults, got 4 Dark Devils Auto in 20L buckets (filled to 17-18L) on slightly too smal drip trays giving me an additional 3cm to grow the roots in hydro (just have to make sure there´s always some water down in the driptray) in a 80x80cm tent. For light I got 4 Vipaspectra P600, soil is selfmade and I´m getting outdoor yield for this strain; officially outdoor yield is 150-180gr per plant, I´m getting 150-210gr per plant in my too smal tent, since I´m using low stress. And obviously thats dry yield, wet after harvest it´s 1kg+ per plant (sclaed it once out of curiosity).
this sounds like i’m bragging but i dont mean to be just sharing my experience. i get on average 2lbs dried & cured in a 4x4 from ~480 watts using high efficient LEDs and grown in a peat moss mixture keeping a target of ~950par on the canopy without using CO2 growing photoperiods averaging an 18-22 week cycle depending on strain.
400 watts you should have like 4 plants in the tent and grow them for at least 4-5 months of you're starting from seed. I use the 200 watts for veg and when i flip it to 12/12 I flip the other 200 watts on after about the two week stretch. They start to love it!
Thank you very much for this video. Next to many of your usefull video's this one helped me the best getting a good overview of what hardware to use in my setup!
I've had pretty good luck with a 4 by 8, would 3 600 watt HIDs. In OG grow light hoods 8 inch concealed vacuum technology. And in my 5X5 tents. I use either a SK 601 630 watt LED add a small light mover. Are an OG as I have in my 5X8 with four or 600 watts depending on the time of year and the heat. Winter clearly gets a 600. And in summer I drop it to 400watts. However on those 2 5x5 particular tents I also run for t5 light bulbs around the perimeter to help the edges of the tent
As a beginner (second grow) I tried 6 autoflowers in 5gal pots in a 4x4 tent with 480w LED. I trained the plants quite a lot and I achieved great coverage. Half way through the grow I chose to switch to CO2 (with the hanging bags). Why not?, it was winter and the temps would be around 30 degree at night inside the "air tight" tent, no need for heating :D. I had the dehumidifier inside and the inline fan would suck air from the floor and release it at the top of the tent.BIG MISTAKE! Even though my plants loved the heat and grew like monsters my dehumidifier couldn't handle the amount of humidity. I didn't defoliate the autos not to stress them so there was a lot of density. I ended up with bud rot on 5 of the plants and had to throw some monster buds right in the bin :( The only plant that survived was a Gorilla Glue that finished 2 weeks early. I should've noticed the yellow leaves coming out the buds were not due to the "flush" -.- Lesson learned
yes the plants love high humidity as they are less stressed but it comes with risk to the crop. Better to stay at about 50 to 60% humidity in the second half of flowering.
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I use a 2x4 foot tent and mainly only ran 2 plants in 5 gallon pots. I would get around 14-16oz dry. Since I started making my own seeds, I've been running 8 plants in 2 gallon pots, 1 per sqft. and yielding slightly more but half the veg time and much easier to fill the space. For sea of green grows, 1 plant per sqft. can be pretty efficient with the downside of having to water 2x per day in flower.
Why not try Dutch Buckets so watering is automatic and has wicking available 24 hrs a day yet will water from top for you? Other hydroponic set ups don't protect your plants like this during pump or power failure either.
Nicely laid out and good guages, but I regularly get 2000g sometimes up to 2600g from 2x mars hydro fc4800 in a 4foo by 8foot from autoflowers in 25l fabric pots with soil so easily 2-2.8g/watt. I've done 8 cycles with this set up with the only variable being the strain, but always autos....
Holy nice one bro .. what fertilizers do you use to grow ? And whats your umol target for veg and flower in the tent and how many plants with 25l pot in there.. if you could help with one answer 😅
@awesomebest5275 I have 10x plants in 25l in a 4foot by 8foot tent, fabric root nurse pots, I use shogun nutes plus microrizae and rhizotonic I don't know about the umol, but I run the lights at 20% power for the first 2 weeks of veg, then up to 50% until beginning of flower, then I gradually increase up to 100% just by keeping a close eye on any signs of light stress (bleaching/drooping leaves) until they're up at 100%. I run 24hour light in veg and 18/6 in flower
I love the videos but can you help me out with these same test for an 8x8 grow tent with say for 645w floraflex lights Power percent and height amount of plants
chilled tech are one of the top light designers.vitaly is a genius..ive seen in american grow rooms they like to hang thier lights 4 feet away from the tops...thats why the bar set up is best..the most spread the better of course..im so happy we dont use those old hps..
just purchased your aray 8 , i set it up today though there was no instruction manual in the box ! but the QR code got me to the online manual , i will give you an up date in the next few days.
Im using about 276 watts to grow 5zs every 2 months of top shelf cannabis. 4x24w cfl at 6500k, 1x32w rwb LED, and 1x150w hps. What works for one person doesnt always work for another. This works for me , and that said, it may work for others. I keep the led and hps about ten inches from the canopy and the cfls as side lighting at the corners about 3 inches away. Everything is adjustable for differences as the plants fill the space. Temps are a constant 74 to 80 f and humidity is kept high (60 to 90 rh) in veg, then reduced to 50-65 late veg to early flower, then dropped as low as 35 to 45 in flower aiming for as low as possible the last few weeks.
My current theory on yield (photos, in coco) is that however many litres per day a plant needs tells you how many ounces that plant will give you. 2 litres per day equals approx 2 oz, 2 litres every other day is 1 oz, 2 litres twice per week is half a zed, 4 litres is 4 oz for example. This method is just a rough idea but seems to be fairly representative from my own experience. Currently still on HiD so when I change to led we'll see if it still stands true but as a very simple guide it should give you a reasonable idea I believe
@craigyboy4770 actually it isn't bs however it is over simplified. There is definitely a relationship. Basically if a plant doesn't take much watering it's yield will be terrible and if it drinks like an alcoholic then it'll reward you well.
@talboyovGY ,you are right, it's a bit simplified but correct! More roots = Plant drinks more = more yield. Plants with a poor root system "drink" less = less yield. Basically , the thirst of a plant indicates her root development.
I just got a LP250 ParfactWorks LED fixture for a 4x4 area. I got it because it had IR and UV lights included, which so many LED fixtures do not. I agree with you on that 9 auto flowering plant is right for that space. Yes, it could be said that I need more than 250w, but the IR and UV lights seem to add a lot. It gives the roots the energy to take up nutrients better. Thanks for a lot of conformation on my own research and guess work.
That/s going to struggle to get high PPFD in a 4x4. You will need to hang it higher to open up it's spread, which will lower the PPFD at the canopy quite considerably. Like shane said in the Video, 30 watts a foot = 480W.
I guess it also depends on what kind or size of plants you want. We could easily fill a 2x2 wall to wall with one plant, and with the right light and a SOG setup, we could easily get 8 plants in a 4x2.
hey shane, thx for uploading these cool videos. Can you make a video about cleaning LEDs? Some dont have a coat of silicone over them and I wonder whats the best way to get rid of dirt, oil, dust and so on. How to clean quantum board and led strips. that would be awesome thx
Is there a PAR meter you recommend to the home Grower. I am looking to purchase a new light for my 4x4 . It currently has a mars hydro fc-e4800. I was considering the fc 4800 or fc6500. Thanks for the great video
I have a pb4000 and a pb2000 in a 4x5. Its pretty much perfect at 500 watts if I run at 100%. Which I really don't need to. Those are the PB4000 pro and the PB2000 pro(Maxsisun). I get really even coverage with those. I have a PB1000 pro in a 2.2. I just leave that one mounted to the top and just use the dimmer for whats inside of it. I also built a drying rack out of wire rack shelves. I black plasticized the inside and just move it where the coldest place in the house is. Ofc, it has a humidifier in it. One of those digital ones.
I purchased the Array 750 recently. Nice lights, and with the remote drivers, well, that's a huge plus for small areas. Plan to place them outside of a tent because they do put out a good amount of heat. Mine are in my room because that's how it's set up, but I'm planning to do some rewiring to get them outside before getting too far along with an upcoming grow. Best!
I really enjoyed the video, one thing I would like to add is the plants need a very even light spread, and I agree the environment needs be really good, I have designed and built my own grow light from Led bulbs and I really like the results(about £40 each, covers a 2ft x 2ft), I am growing in soil but I mix my own soil up using dry nutes from my local garden center, I don't agree about hydro yielding more than soil because that depends on the soil mix, a good soil mix should be very light and sandy, most compost is full of bark/twigs and its too heavy,( I always look at the total cost per crop and crop size/quality) you can away spend more but whats the return for your money and whats the risk things can go wrong? most perpetual growers will find a really good plant that ticks all the boxes, take clones and keep them small for 8-10 weeks(punning them into the perfect shape, 8-10 tops, per 2ft2) , plants in veg need less than half the light, say 350par and less than 1/5 of the flower room size, pot the plants up and give them a week in the flower room before flipping them over to flower, taking clone just before flowering the plants off. So the overall cost of growing in soil vs hydro makes soil more cost effective as you don't need a mother plant and the extra space it takes up, equipment and all the other expenses, soil is also more stable, less things can go wrong as hydro can be hit and miss.
problem is he isn't really growing in soil. A sterilized bag of Plagron or other big box store mix, does not make soil. Soil is ALIVE. I grow soil, then the soil grows the plants.
@@live2ride844 I have grown in most the systems, hydro can get very messy if the pipes leak and for me it was too often, but hydro is great if everything is idled in.
@@billyballsup2685 Monster cropping clones is OK but there a trade off if the canopy too full, you end up with loads of long twigs with little to no bud, if every main shoot has 6-10" of space to grow, most plants will give you long thick cola's come harvest.
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Convinced me!!.. Ordered your MIGRO ARAY 8 light today!! Excited to see the productivity of my grows to increase.
How much LED watts per square foot for seedlings? To mimick the not much sun from early spring. For a veg garden.
And same question for late spring when the sun is a bit stronger?
So 30 watts per square feet is summer?
I think I'm burning my seedlings. My lights don't have dimmers.
And are the wattages per square foot are the same on while grow lights and non white grow lights.
Already subscribed Shane,
150W per square foot for HPS. 250W per square foot for LEDs.
Autos never yield well and use way too much electricity and are pointless to grow indoors. They are always less potent as well and not as fast as the 'CLAIMS' suggest.
If you are not getting 0.85 - 1.25 grams per watt then you are not doing it properly. That should be easily possible with 2-3 weeks veg.
I have personally seen Autos go to 130 days which is longer than regular indica strains. There is no advantage at all to growing Autos indoors at all.
sorry easy lumatek 600 pro 3g pre w EASY if people r telling u some thing and u do what u do my be is ignorant to say that they dont know what they r talking about . because my be then they can say u dont know what r u talking about. hmmm
no hard filling only love from a dray jar.
You are not only the light guy you are the grow guy. I learned more from your 16 minute video than I have from watching hours and hours of the other guys. I learn from them too but you provide the information the way an old hippie needs to hear it; short and sweet. Thank you!!!
what I do is this.
13 hr veg cycle
13 hr flower cycle.
12 hours on 5.5 hours off then 1 hour on then 5.5 hours off for veg
13 hours for flower will increase yeilds without going back into veg cycle. it's the cut of point ie the maximum light it can grow flower in.
@geo_ neo9
When?
@@Freedom_Born When what? I don't understand your question.
@Johndoe for sure but there are ways to increase smell etc. I would if electric wasn't so expensive. It's all enough for me amd works.
This guy has to be an engineer or highly trained scientist. He’s speaking my language.
It's about using all the canopy space. You can do that say in a 4' 4' with one big plant or 5 small plants or 9 smaller plants.
More plants less vegging time. As long as the canopy is filling the area nicely it doesn't matter.
5 mid size plants in 3"x3" was optimal for me
In my experience, a minimum of 5 weeks in veg is ideal. The plants seem to show a truer phenotypical expression when I allow them to naturally reach sexual maturity before I flip to flower.
Most of the autos I've grown take that long to start really flowering also.
I have a 4x4 n I have a hard time maintaining 4 plants the always grow taller then the light can handle
I can definitely confirm his range for the 4x4 tent dried content weight. It is spot on. I get this range every cycle (2-3 photo plants, no CO2, 4-5 months from seed- they wind up close to the roof) obviously varying by genetics, and I really have no clue what I’m doing and have only been at it a couple years now.
Same problem literally
@@darnellmcdile9506 Plants need to be trained to control the height.
I'm going to try a low stress method this go round @@Henuman
@@darnellmcdile9506 Good luck have fun.
Thank you for doing the homework that most of us are unable, incapable, or lack resources to accomplish.
No surprises here. Everything you said seems Spot On, from my experience.
The plant numbers, Watts per tent size, umols at the canopy, and expected harvest weight, were the best recommendations I've heard. And all in one short video.
Perfect, Shane. Much Thanks!
I just finished my first indoor grow in a 5x5 under an SE 7000 730w…four plants …two week slow dry…weighed in at 735g…..thanks for the info….really like your work
I have been watching your videos for years. your lights are top quality and your tests are great to watch. keep up the great work.
Glad you like them!
This video is exactly what we needed considering current crazy electric prices, thank you!
Are you in Australia if not you get it cheap.
@@billyballsup2685 you should watch the news more
what I do is this.
13 hr veg cycle
13 hr flower cycle.
12 hours on 5.5 hours off then 1 hour on then 5.5 hours off for veg
13 hours for flower will increase yeilds without going back into veg cycle. it's the cut of point ie the maximum light it can grow flower in.
@@graemebuchan1919 maybe you need to check Australia's prices. Why would I need to watch the news. That's the last place you get the truth. We pay between 26 to 38 cents a kilowatt. Not 12 cents.
@@billyballsup2685 your inflation is half of the UK rate, and nobody is gonna freeze to death, wonder how i knew you avoid information, fukin drongo
Great video Migro. It really is nice to see someone put it all out there and break it down for people like myself that just want to know what we need to know. This definitely saves me from oversizing a light for my 4×4. Thank you
Spot on. Coco/Perlite, no CO2 always reached almost top yield. 16 weeks photoperiod. Great confidence boost, thank you for the videos.
OP
What do you mean by no CO2
No added Carbon dioxide. Continuous airflow in and out is good enough for personal needs. IMO.
@@jimbob2101
Sweet. Thank you.
@@mspahn1967 check out Dr MJ Coco it's also a very helpful channel for growing with coco. Pretty much all the info you need is on one or the other channel. Best of luck. 👍
Facts
A person I know said she prefers more smaller plants because of the variety. It's great to grow ginormous plants if you have room but I also believe you build a tolerance to one strain so if you've got different varieties you can switch strains and don't have to smoke as much!
Hi Frank,
Yes we agree.
Hey mate I've found the best strains don't throw out us much but that why you have twice the amount of them, I prefer quality over quantity, I've kept the same strains for 3 years because every other is just abit dull.
@Johndoe yeah man Shane is the main guy I watch for lighting and a couple other but he is by far the best even got some migro gear and yeah man I'm also just agreeing with the main comments as I've noticed usually the plant that yield heaps are good but I think the smaller yielding plants taste better just my own experience and I can fit more in but I've had a few big growing plants but didn't fill the canopy aswell.
@Johndoe awesome dude I will have to look into autos I don't really know much about them .
@Johndoe yeah man I'm in Australia it's easy to find strains just haven't found any that keep up with the og kush and the girls scout cookies crack I do have grandfather og going and axe murderer they look great but I don't really have high hopes nice size though but yeah man I alway keep the strains I like best got a few more to try but yeah man, can't beat flavour, been looking at supersoil looks pretty interesting.
Totally enjoyed the casual conversational details. I may need to re-watch just to take in all the information covered.
I've noticed after 6 years genetics makes the difference with yield. But what a great informative watch thanks shane💯😎
With good variation and plants about 1.4m + 16L pot in coco i manage to pull 2.1g/W as my record after 8 days of drying. Normally i manage to make about 1.6-1.7 with my LED mars hydro in 1m x 2m high tent. In my best grow i was using CO2 suplementation.
You'll have so much bud after first harvest it will make your head spin. I can see how folks get themselves caught up in this game. The numbers are crazy😂 and i love it
A trick to veg out one photoperiod and harvest during the veg is to stick one photoperiod with a bunch of staggered autoflowers. While the photoperiod veg's out to fill the 4x4 you harvest the autoflowers as they ready to clear up more room for the photoperiod. You might have to take plants out to free up space so need another area to finish an auto or two off every now and then. By the time you harvest the last auto you should have a photoperiod that's taking up the entire space once trained out.
@Johndoe I didn't do this just so you know, but the person who did grew fem seeds so no pollinating I believe. Didn't come across any seeds in the bud.
@Johndoe did you grow out the seeds you got? Roughly how many grew to be auto and how many grew to be photo? If you got any autos, how did they taste? Typical ruderalis BS or like a photoperiod?
Cool stuff though
That's fucking genius thank you bro
I'm debating whether I want to do perpetual harvest with autos or what. Leaning towards photo because of the ability to clone and veg easier
Thank you so much for all your work. This video is just what I was looking for to dial in my setup. Please keep up the great work.
I agree these numbers are more or less valid.
Some people prefer to go sea of green with alot more plants (clones) and get done in 12-14 weeks max with each run.
For the simple reason of squeezing in one more grow per year.
The average yield is pretty much the same.
Let's say:
Guy #1 uses a Scrog (screen of green) setup (harvests twice a year so 2x750g in ~32 weeks)
Guy #2 uses a SOG (sea of green) setup (harvests three times a year so 3x500g in ~32 weeks)
As for watering, that can become very tricky in a SCROG especially if you don't wanna involve any pumps at all.
Also, yes it can become pretty annoying as well if ure growing with the SOG method, when temps are on the hotter side and the plants want a watering every 2 days.
But to each his own. peace!
I've lost count of the grow light videos and finally I come across yourself and long story short I just ordered the array 4×4 all of your work is interesting and above all accurate big thanks Shane
Thanks, much appreciated, take care, Shane
I'm definitely going to check out your lights. I don't have a problem with my current yeilds, heck I have enough product to roll around in but it's time for a new light and my priority is a safe efficient light
Great information! You answered many questions I had as a new grower.
what I do is this.
13 hr veg cycle
13 hr flower cycle.
12 hours on 5.5 hours off then 1 hour on then 5.5 hours off for veg
13 hours for flower will increase yeilds without going back into veg cycle. it's the cut of point ie the maximum light it can grow flower in.
@@geo_neo9 That is strange and interesting but I understand why it probably works. Cool.
@@Ms13Funpolice Yes it does work brilliant. See I grow organic which is bound to be different in this way because organic is healing for the ladies. Terps also increase due to organic. .
Same speed of growth and same harvest give or take depending on genetics.
I'm a spiritual leader and I am aware we can programme the water with our energy because water has consciousness. Which helps make the buzz n terps be that little bit better than it was before I started this technique. It's just most think that's crazy even though there are books on how water has consciousness. She remembers everything.
@@geo_neo9 that's great your discussing water...
I agree totally and have started my own water treatment methods for our drinking water.
This is my first time growing so totally green... But l am keen on EVERYTHING being around natures code and as far removed from toxins as possible. Nutritionally rich living soil, clean water, natural sunlight where possible, and a natural environment around birds, bees and... so my theory is playing recordings of nature's sounds can only be beneficial too, and not detrimental? 🤔
I am sure many have tried the living soils and l imagine once in an enclosed tent the pests can hatch and be trapped in, and problems persist from there?
I have 4 auto's growing in home made nutritional compost and thus far been outside 24/7 for close to a couple of months. Thus far they are thriving and any bugs that may have landed have a tiny nibble and depart as in true gardening. With enough nutrients the plant makes eating it difficult for bugs. Their job is to clear decay, so any decay should be removed asap so they don't hang around...
My aim is to move them into a 4 x 4 tent to finish off. Am l destined for problems?
My concerns are from an organic mindset nearly everything is genetically modified, from strains to feeding artificial nutrition... so is it possible to be more organic in an artificial environment?
I’m currently in a 2x4, using 2x3 of the space for a 7-gallon cloth pot. Second grow in this setup. First time I had 2 plants in 2 gallon plastic pots, and I harvested roughly 98-103 grams of dry weight. I’ve trained the next lady similarly, just in a much larger pot. Her 8-10 main colas have been tied out to the sides and the center of the plant is going crazy now! She’s in week 5 of flower and she’s still stacking. I’ve had to turn the light down from the 1300 PPFD to around Shane’s 800 micro moles/PPFD . She’s no longer showing symptoms of light stress. It’s really crucial to have your growth chamber dialed in. My VPD was off, so I was getting some signs of stress. I dimmed back the lights to 68% 75%, roughly, and increased extraction fan speed as well as increased the humidity a tad. Soil ph is 6.33, and I continue to feed her with silica, CalMag, liquid bone meal, calcium and a .5ml/gallon of 0-1-0 carbon. Ph of 6.4-6.8. All of the nutrients are bioavailable, while the plant is immersed in living soil. Hopefully I’ll get closer to 6+ ounces. A half pound would be wonderful but, I just need to keep her doing her thing.
How did it turn out?
@@baylenthedogg3242
Oh man, it was a wonderful learning experience in the sense that, if you’re going to use a 7-gallon pot, make sure that you’re pushing around 250-300 watts LED light source. I’m going to use that understanding, as I look towards my next opportunity! I’m beginning to understand how the living soil can stay living in a wonderful, recirculating system. That’s golden and, it has a lot to do with fungi, among other constituents but fungi!!! Garden giant or King straphoria is a wonderful friend in your garden. Barely scratching the surface but yes, always absorbing information through trial and error or, FU:FO ratio, fuck up, to find out. Thanks for asking though, I really appreciate it!
@@jakebrake7054 thanks for answering. I've grown I'm the woods years ago when I needed money and my friend that helped me robbed me during one of the hardest times of me life. Safe to say he's no longer a friend. But I've never grown indoor.. my wife is disabled, she has been on oxycodone for 3yr from the pain clinic.. and decided 2 weeks ago to quit as she could control them anymore, as they was controlling her. I don't really know what I want to do regarding grow medium.. I've always wanted to do DWC "deep water culture" and wanted to do no till living soil. I may just use coco and perlite and a little fox farms.. add gaia green 4-4-4 all purpose and then 0-2-4 'i think' boom boost. Mr Canucks on UA-cam and Cali green both use this organic method and it seems to do decent.
I know marijuana had brought a glow back into her eyes soul and smile. That I haven't seen in years, I can't afford what they want for it here and God only knows what's in this stiff. I live in prohibition state well technically we just legalized but can only buy outside of state until 2025. So I can't throw them outside and let em grow. So indoors it is, but $ is a issue so I'm debating on a 2x2 by mars hydro but would love a AC Infinity 4x4 kit but there $985 even with $100 promo code.
But the way look into he grow pro 1800 led light. It's pushing over 1000 par I'm every corner, and is $420.. the guy on UA-cam that reviews all lights just posted a video and they are the pound for pound best light.
I been tying since last year! You name it I seen videos step by step!
This year pack seeds an 3 step process, oh an one shot of mulch juice,,run it thru cheese cloth ,let it get room temp an then pour it on,oh an a cage with plastic around it??? Left them cause I thought nothing would happen,then weeks later,wow,ii pruned them an they are beautiful, I went old school outside!!!!
What works for one may not work for another!!!!!!
Your numbers are the right range. I’ve been getting average of 1.35-1.6 oz per sqft in my 5 x 2.5 tent growing 3 plants in 5 gallon pots. Running 400watts of led. About 1.3-1.5gpw. I don’t use co2 but that’s a pretty packed tent
you run that at 100%
Yes Shane you couldn't be more right and you can't argue with the science. Also 50/50 soil perlite in autopots is great results. Just as good as coco but without having to worry about pH so much
I've never heard of a 50/50 with soil and perlite and as a current soil grower this interests me. Thanks for the suggestion!
The only thing coco, rockwool, clay, perlite does is displace water totals, hydro with nothing is all the water, coco is going to make up 90 some percent water that would be there in hydro, it’s the nutrients that does it all with an amount of water.
I hand water with buffered nutrients so I don’t have to PH and I don’t have to flush, I just don’t feed after the last week and don’t waste time flushing.
@@doveseye.4666 The unfortunate thing about the buffered nutrients, such as advance nutrients, is they don't work in autopots. I've a new brand I'm using called Mills, the pH holds better than advance in my dwc and has zero gunk in the autopot.
@@bananas7479 I use Mantis Buffered Nutrients, a one bottle entire grow, seed to harvest and only when you water, it’s just fantastic, I use it on people who don’t know what’s wrong with there grow and Mantis just fixes any cannabis plant, I get great results, I don’t know about the Autopots, but Mantis is spectacular in hydro , I guess move it or keep it moving so the buffer doesn’t settle, I’m disabled and I can’t be messing with hoses and measures and cables, no way, I appreciate the one bottle entire grow thing, smoking or eating Mantis is only for cannabis. Funny thing, I’m using the Autopots, but since I can’t set it up, I use the 5 gallon bucket’s because they are tall enough to grab from a wheelchair, but the plants soon outgrow me, this time I’m growing sugar black rose with slabs from the ground, not on a table I can’t reach.
@@doveseye.4666 Well done man hats of to you. I've often wondered how I could continue to grow if I had a disability. I like to have an idea for unexpectedness of life. I will look up this mantis stuff. Have you looked into biotabs or grow dots. Water only. Ah sure with a one bottle thing what's the difference
Love autoflowers. Just made a batch of la rica cbd from elite seeds in only 62 days from seed to cut. Delicious, Beautyful and magic. Less yield than feminised but almost two months less of electricity and work too
Good stuff
Diamond INFO as usually! You are the only fews who really care about their community!
Thanks.
Thank you for the advice keep doing what you’re doing you’re making a difference we’re listening.Hope you have a great day. Thomas.
getting a new set up . first time. an was needing to know this very information. I hope i catch on fast so not to waste a lot of time.
lol another bot account.
Pretty much what I surmised after buying a few lights. I have a 150 watt light for two plants in a 2x3, a 300 for 1 square meter 42 inch by 36 inch and also 489 watts for another square meter. All are producing dense bud. Then I joined the two tents with both lights and I get some over lap in the middle for less reflective walls..
Thanks for sharing.
I think your bang on there Shane good info. I only run my HPS or MH in the coldest days of the winter. LED knocks a full third off my power draw and the terp profile has become incredible.
IMO led produce better terps
HPS more dense bud
This is the most informative video I've seen by far! Thank you
This is my second grow. First time was indoor all cococoir. The yield was decent. Now on my second grow, I did indoor and outdoor. My outdoors grew extra large and wide. Buds everywhere on both plants. 4th week of flower and the smell outside is ridiculously aromatic.. the 4 plants I have indoors now didn’t yield as much as the two outside which are still a few weeks away from harvest.. I used raised beds soil in a hole I dug in the ground and filled the bottom with dry and green material and fresh alfalfa plants. Then dumped the soil in the hole. It became living soil with worms and the whole nine. The yield looks to be over 1.lbs on both plants combined. It’s not about the medium it’s about the skills you have as a gardener/grower.
I was a gardener before I started growing!..
I've given up on indoor growing it was barely worth it before but now with the hike in energy costs I think it'll be cheaper to stick to my dealer lol
Sticking to seasonal outdoor grows now, the sun is best and its free. Its just not all year round for the type of crops I produce.. If you know what I mean ;)
@Johndoe Yea problem is mate, we no longer live in the 90s when the cost of electric wasent even a part of your monthly spend.
It costs more to grow a plant than it costs to buy that equivilent weight in bud from a dealer, without the hassle of growing it, without waiting, without trimming and curing, so whats the point? Unless you getting a kilo per plant your at a loss.
Seasonal outdoor grows is where its at now.
Thanks to the greedy energy sector, nobodys going to be growing jack shit for a hobby with an indoor setup under artificial light.
Thats my problem.
Still so happy with m'y Migro 100 on my closet !perfectly sized for my plants.
Excellent as always Shane. Thank You
Enjoy learning with MIGro! This is exactly what I've been looking for.. The plant Qty. Is exactly spot on from my experience.
Thank you for educating us I have learned so much form you and I trust your teaching 100 percent it’s actually the truth thank you again you have saved me time and money also though me allot
what I do is this.
13 hr veg cycle
13 hr flower cycle.
12 hours on 5.5 hours off then 1 hour on then 5.5 hours off for veg
13 hours for flower will increase yeilds without going back into veg cycle. it's the cut of point ie the maximum light it can grow flower in.
Would love to see you test a lamp from invisible sun LED. I've been using their X Bar array and for a 240w draw It is insane. Review more UK products for us UK growers. Keep up the great work.👍🏼
Seu conteúdo é inenarrável!!! Forte abraço da Bahia 🇧🇷
I guarantee the people who say 3-4grams per watt are not accounting for the power used for AC / heating / dehumidification . When running CO2 in a closed system you will be able to pull more per sqm but the cost of power will even out your gpw. Then they figure they are getting 3gpw with their lights when in reality it’s only 1.5.
If without accounting ac, dehu and fans even with co2 getting over 3g/w you can only achieve with the biggest yielding strains and the quality usually sucks with those strains
Correct me if I'm wrong but the hydro advantage in growing speed is only applied in vegetative having the same speed/result in flowering as soil?
You will yeild more in hydro. But flower time wise yes the plant will finish in the same time.
On my 3rd run in a 4x4 with 780W total available...got 19 oz with 6 plants, 16 oz with 3 plants of photoperiods so far. I get great coverage with 2 monsterboard LEDs plus a Migro UV-B fixture....I'm also on Solar power!
Booyah!
What's your battery setup like? And how much of a difference do you notice with the UV light?
@@ungoyone no battery, just juice with the solar...2nd run with UV-B light was frostier n tastier than without
What watt is your solar panel to constantly run a 780W ? If you have not got a battery storage unit doesn’t it go off if there’s no sun ? I’ve been looking at a little hybrid system both small solar panels and a small wind turbine
One plant, G13 haze, 3x3 AC Infinity tent, spiderfarmer sf2000 200w led light. 319g total dried weight. Not sure if this is average or upper hand but I'm extremely impressed!!!
Sounds great to me !
Thanks for sharing.
I would love to see a standard setup maybe the array 4 a fan and a extraction fan, then the option of a small oil rad for winter. All running and showing the pence per hour on a smart meter.
Thanks Nathan, I will do a video on power consumption and costs soon
@@MIGROLIGHT add in humidifier and dehumidifier please
Great stuff! I totally agree, the numbers are reasonable, follow these advices and you may have success 🙏🙏
He's talking about basil, right?
tulshi
Oh so not basil? damn that's what I was here for
Yes
"Tomatoes " 😂
Oregano species 😂
Thanks for the knowledge info and unbiased reviews! Just starting out and lights have been a huge headache! You made it easy! Here I come migro array 8!
@MIGRO if I send you an optic 720s paid by me would you review it?
I´m quite happy with my resoults, got 4 Dark Devils Auto in 20L buckets (filled to 17-18L) on slightly too smal drip trays giving me an additional 3cm to grow the roots in hydro (just have to make sure there´s always some water down in the driptray) in a 80x80cm tent. For light I got 4 Vipaspectra P600, soil is selfmade and I´m getting outdoor yield for this strain; officially outdoor yield is 150-180gr per plant, I´m getting 150-210gr per plant in my too smal tent, since I´m using low stress. And obviously thats dry yield, wet after harvest it´s 1kg+ per plant (sclaed it once out of curiosity).
rock n roll
Wow over 24oz from less than 3x3 space
This is a world record right?
What about those Chinese led lights with lm281b chips found on aliexpress? Do they do the job efficiently?
this sounds like i’m bragging but i dont mean to be just sharing my experience.
i get on average 2lbs dried & cured in a 4x4 from ~480 watts using high efficient LEDs and grown in a peat moss mixture keeping a target of ~950par on the canopy without using CO2 growing photoperiods averaging an 18-22 week cycle depending on strain.
I’m just under you in coco.
Damn😊
That was very informative. I wasn’t quite sure on lighting for me 2x4x 60 I went with 2 100 watt lights.
Thank you for the straight forward wattage info.
400 watts you should have like 4 plants in the tent and grow them for at least 4-5 months of you're starting from seed. I use the 200 watts for veg and when i flip it to 12/12 I flip the other 200 watts on after about the two week stretch. They start to love it!
Thank you for putting this into terms that I can actually understand. 👍
You know your stuff and how to communicate that knowledge to your audience.
Thank you very much for this video. Next to many of your usefull video's this one helped me the best getting a good overview of what hardware to use in my setup!
Glad to hear the videos have been helpful
I've had pretty good luck with a 4 by 8, would 3 600 watt HIDs. In OG grow light hoods 8 inch concealed vacuum technology. And in my 5X5 tents. I use either a SK 601 630 watt LED add a small light mover. Are an OG as I have in my 5X8 with four or 600 watts depending on the time of year and the heat. Winter clearly gets a 600. And in summer I drop it to 400watts. However on those 2 5x5 particular tents I also run for t5 light bulbs around the perimeter to help the edges of the tent
Absolutely quality piece of kit, thanks muchly next on my list is your uvb cheers
As a beginner (second grow) I tried 6 autoflowers in 5gal pots in a 4x4 tent with 480w LED. I trained the plants quite a lot and I achieved great coverage. Half way through the grow I chose to switch to CO2 (with the hanging bags). Why not?, it was winter and the temps would be around 30 degree at night inside the "air tight" tent, no need for heating :D. I had the dehumidifier inside and the inline fan would suck air from the floor and release it at the top of the tent.BIG MISTAKE! Even though my plants loved the heat and grew like monsters my dehumidifier couldn't handle the amount of humidity. I didn't defoliate the autos not to stress them so there was a lot of density. I ended up with bud rot on 5 of the plants and had to throw some monster buds right in the bin :( The only plant that survived was a Gorilla Glue that finished 2 weeks early. I should've noticed the yellow leaves coming out the buds were not due to the "flush" -.- Lesson learned
yes the plants love high humidity as they are less stressed but it comes with risk to the crop. Better to stay at about 50 to 60% humidity in the second half of flowering.
I know your pain 😢
Great content Shane love your work
Really do appreciate all the videos help me as a new grower to purchase volt grow lights Be Well Fam Stay Safe and POSITIVE Vibes. Keep the information coming very helpful I'm always referring your page to people buying lights be well
Best informative video yet. I actually learned something. Thnx so Much
I use a 2x4 foot tent and mainly only ran 2 plants in 5 gallon pots. I would get around 14-16oz dry. Since I started making my own seeds, I've been running 8 plants in 2 gallon pots, 1 per sqft. and yielding slightly more but half the veg time and much easier to fill the space. For sea of green grows, 1 plant per sqft. can be pretty efficient with the downside of having to water 2x per day in flower.
Good stuff!
2x4 is a great footprint. 👍 Pulling down a lb? 👏👏
Why not try Dutch Buckets so watering is automatic and has wicking available 24 hrs a day yet will water from top for you? Other hydroponic set ups don't protect your plants like this during pump or power failure either.
which led did you use ?
which light was that ?
Nicely laid out and good guages, but I regularly get 2000g sometimes up to 2600g from 2x mars hydro fc4800 in a 4foo by 8foot from autoflowers in 25l fabric pots with soil so easily 2-2.8g/watt. I've done 8 cycles with this set up with the only variable being the strain, but always autos....
Ps this is final dry trimmed weight
Thanks for sharing
Holy nice one bro .. what fertilizers do you use to grow ? And whats your umol target for veg and flower in the tent and how many plants with 25l pot in there.. if you could help with one answer 😅
Do you have a guide for this setup???
@awesomebest5275 I have 10x plants in 25l in a 4foot by 8foot tent, fabric root nurse pots, I use shogun nutes plus microrizae and rhizotonic I don't know about the umol, but I run the lights at 20% power for the first 2 weeks of veg, then up to 50% until beginning of flower, then I gradually increase up to 100% just by keeping a close eye on any signs of light stress (bleaching/drooping leaves) until they're up at 100%. I run 24hour light in veg and 18/6 in flower
Whats the best soil to use
Hi what led lights would you use in a 2.0m by 2.0m tent and how many would you put in? Thanks in advance.
I love the videos but can you help me out with these same test for an 8x8 grow tent with say for 645w floraflex lights Power percent and height amount of plants
Good information . I spent years to get the results I desired .
chilled tech are one of the top light designers.vitaly is a genius..ive seen in american grow rooms they like to hang thier lights 4 feet away from the tops...thats why the bar set up is best..the most spread the better of course..im so happy we dont use those old hps..
Those look like accurate figures based on my experience, they definitely reflect reality
I just pulled 14.8 ozs of soil grown autoflower buds from my 3x3 using a Viparspectra KS3000. 1.39 gms per watt.
I'm happy with that.
Thanks a lot for all informations, very useful. You answer so many points to get the correct set up.
Thanks again for all your great works, Cheers
Thanks for all your hard work and sharing with the world
just purchased your aray 8 , i set it up today though there was no instruction manual in the box ! but the QR code got me to the online manual , i will give you an up date in the next few days.
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Im using about 276 watts to grow 5zs every 2 months of top shelf cannabis. 4x24w cfl at 6500k, 1x32w rwb LED, and 1x150w hps. What works for one person doesnt always work for another. This works for me , and that said, it may work for others. I keep the led and hps about ten inches from the canopy and the cfls as side lighting at the corners about 3 inches away. Everything is adjustable for differences as the plants fill the space. Temps are a constant 74 to 80 f and humidity is kept high (60 to 90 rh) in veg, then reduced to 50-65 late veg to early flower, then dropped as low as 35 to 45 in flower aiming for as low as possible the last few weeks.
I’ve done 4 plants in my 2x2, 1 gallon hempy buckets, worked great but i usually do 2-3. Yield is about the same it’s full either way
Can you fit 4 2 or 3 gallon buckets?
@@justinholtgrave best off to veg out one big plant if your going for yield. 4 should fit but would be cramped and a pain to manage.
My current theory on yield (photos, in coco) is that however many litres per day a plant needs tells you how many ounces that plant will give you. 2 litres per day equals approx 2 oz, 2 litres every other day is 1 oz, 2 litres twice per week is half a zed, 4 litres is 4 oz for example. This method is just a rough idea but seems to be fairly representative from my own experience. Currently still on HiD so when I change to led we'll see if it still stands true but as a very simple guide it should give you a reasonable idea I believe
Scrap you theory dude it's bs
@craigyboy4770 actually it isn't bs however it is over simplified. There is definitely a relationship. Basically if a plant doesn't take much watering it's yield will be terrible and if it drinks like an alcoholic then it'll reward you well.
@talboyovGY ,you are right, it's a bit simplified but correct! More roots = Plant drinks more = more yield. Plants with a poor root system "drink" less = less yield. Basically , the thirst of a plant indicates her root development.
Depends where you live ? I'm in a cool basement not a humid environment with a lot heat.. this is hard.
I just got a LP250 ParfactWorks LED fixture for a 4x4 area. I got it because it had IR and UV lights included, which so many LED fixtures do not. I agree with you on that 9 auto flowering plant is right for that space. Yes, it could be said that I need more than 250w, but the IR and UV lights seem to add a lot. It gives the roots the energy to take up nutrients better. Thanks for a lot of conformation on my own research and guess work.
That/s going to struggle to get high PPFD in a 4x4. You will need to hang it higher to open up it's spread, which will lower the PPFD at the canopy quite considerably. Like shane said in the Video, 30 watts a foot = 480W.
I think it's 512
I guess it also depends on what kind or size of plants you want. We could easily fill a 2x2 wall to wall with one plant, and with the right light and a SOG setup, we could easily get 8 plants in a 4x2.
hey shane, thx for uploading these cool videos. Can you make a video about cleaning LEDs? Some dont have a coat of silicone over them and I wonder whats the best way to get rid of dirt, oil, dust and so on. How to clean quantum board and led strips. that would be awesome
thx
Good idea, thanks, I will cover it in a post, take care, Shane
Does the quality of the flower increase with CO2?
anecdotally people have claimed larger and denser flowers with elevated co2
Got any discount codes for led growshop uk?
Pretty accurate yield edtimates. I have a 3x3, about 1 sq meter, and I get 12-17 ounces per photoperiod grow cycle..
How do you get the 594g whit a 270 watts if the estimate per watts is 1.8g at the maximum?
3x5 2 plants scrog 480w 4 bar 27x 44 brings pound n half average usable a plus material in rdwc with light mover to cover ends no co2
How many watts would you recommend for one plant in a 4x4 tent?
Is there a PAR meter you recommend to the home Grower. I am looking to purchase a new light for my 4x4 . It currently has a mars hydro fc-e4800. I was considering the fc 4800 or fc6500. Thanks for the great video
I can tell this guy doesn't cook his own food, his kitchen counter looks like an office/grow space lmao
Would 4 plants in 10gal fabric pots fit in a 4 X 4 grow tent?
A lot of variables 🤯😵💫 very good information Shane, will make people think 🤔 more before just banging them all in on 100%
DWC, soil or coco will also have a lot to say.
I have a pb4000 and a pb2000 in a 4x5. Its pretty much perfect at 500 watts if I run at 100%. Which I really don't need to. Those are the PB4000 pro and the PB2000 pro(Maxsisun). I get really even coverage with those. I have a PB1000 pro in a 2.2. I just leave that one mounted to the top and just use the dimmer for whats inside of it. I also built a drying rack out of wire rack shelves. I black plasticized the inside and just move it where the coldest place in the house is. Ofc, it has a humidifier in it. One of those digital ones.
Great info! The Array is next on my light list now it's in the states!
I purchased the Array 750 recently. Nice lights, and with the remote drivers, well, that's a huge plus for small areas. Plan to place them outside of a tent because they do put out a good amount of heat. Mine are in my room because that's how it's set up, but I'm planning to do some rewiring to get them outside before getting too far along with an upcoming grow. Best!
12 in a 4x4 in 3 gal pots works great with a 645 led y use it at 80 %power most of the time
So running autoflower you can use much less light on 24hr cycle.
I really enjoyed the video, one thing I would like to add is the plants need a very even light spread, and I agree the environment needs be really good, I have designed and built my own grow light from Led bulbs and I really like the results(about £40 each, covers a 2ft x 2ft), I am growing in soil but I mix my own soil up using dry nutes from my local garden center, I don't agree about hydro yielding more than soil because that depends on the soil mix, a good soil mix should be very light and sandy, most compost is full of bark/twigs and its too heavy,( I always look at the total cost per crop and crop size/quality)
you can away spend more but whats the return for your money and whats the risk things can go wrong?
most perpetual growers will find a really good plant that ticks all the boxes, take clones and keep them small for 8-10 weeks(punning them into the perfect shape, 8-10 tops, per 2ft2) , plants in veg need less than half the light, say 350par and less than 1/5 of the flower room size, pot the plants up and give them a week in the flower room before flipping them over to flower, taking clone just before flowering the plants off.
So the overall cost of growing in soil vs hydro makes soil more cost effective as you don't need a mother plant and the extra space it takes up, equipment and all the other expenses, soil is also more stable, less things can go wrong as hydro can be hit and miss.
problem is he isn't really growing in soil.
A sterilized bag of Plagron or other big box store mix, does not make soil.
Soil is ALIVE.
I grow soil, then the soil grows the plants.
Hydro works better for me, a lot less mess and work actually, after mixing and carrying around soil. Managing a reservoir is a cake walk
Cloning when there's a small young bud is the go . Takes two weeks extra but you get ten to twenty branches to start with in stead of one.
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I have grown in most the systems, hydro can get very messy if the pipes leak and for me it was too often, but hydro is great if everything is idled in.
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Monster cropping clones is OK but there a trade off if the canopy too full, you end up with loads of long twigs with little to no bud, if every main shoot has 6-10" of space to grow, most plants will give you long thick cola's come harvest.