I have been using the Gen 2 for a few weeks now and they have been amazing. Extremely quiet and smooth oscillation. Love that there’s 10 different levels of natural wind for the different plant stages.
Got 2 of the original cloudray s6 during the preorder way back and they have been both running 24/7 for almost 2 yrs and still working hard.. …. Maybe I got lucky with these 2. I only touch them when I’m cleaning them or moving them up or down tent pole and I don’t use the fan adjuster to angle the fan up or down pretty sure that will extra stress on gears they been straight and they running good still
I was using vivosun fans before before they started making clicking noises. I knew I made the right choice out the box. The ac infinity fans are larger and heavy duty while the Vivosun looked was small like a kids toy fan with the green color.
I got the 1st & 2nd release of the AC Infinity and the 1st started clicking first week. The 2nd is running great for 2 months now. I’m looking forward to the version 2 for the no click and the controls off the fan itself. 1st version when you press the button it moves the fan. Good comparison review here, thanks 😉👍
Me personally I'm sticking with my vivosun I've had mine for 6 months running 24 hours a day no problems no clicks no noise and I also like how it has the natural wind speed on it which slows and speeds up the fan while it's swiveling. 💯💪🚬⛽💨🚀
Thats whats up 💪. Sounds like you also probably take some time to ensure your fans are cleaned periodically. Always a good practice for any fan in a grow environment.
@gardensupplyguys, you should always clean your fans. Dirty fans reduce airflow. Dust also traps heat. I clean my pc fans every month even if they don't need it.
I am appreciative. One of my 6x Cloudray S6’s has the trouble with oscillation, some of the others click. I remember hitting it and hearing clicks from the contact my arm made, misaligning something inside and it was only oscillating on a tighter angle and then stopping, so I just turned off the oscillating feature on that one. If you’re sitting on a chair with wheels then you probably appreciate the functionality of such a device, I want a fan without the clicks! Otherwise it is top notch. Great video.
Youre Killin me smalls hah awesome shirt! Great Breakdown of each fan exactly what i was suspecting with each model> AC Infinty is just killin the game constant innovation soo much community support too Ive got 2 Gen 2s on the way they sent with no questions asked my gen 1s are clicky but still going 1 year later
I bought 4 Hurricane Clip fans in 2017 and they all are still going strong. One broke after falling i jammed it back together. The oscillating design is asking complications. Box fans worth well for the price.. The S6 is such a luxury and there is some great oscillating floor fans. Or mount an inline fan to the ten pole and let that indirectly blow air like mad
6 years out of a Hurricane clippy deserves our Trophy 🏆 for you maintaining your fans 👍. We sold plenty of those before the DC motor designs arrived. Sad that Hurricane is no longer produced… Thank Monsanto-Scotts for that brand dying 😢
I just filled out my S6 G2 redemption stuff to get my 2 clickers replaced .... And the only other New thing you didn't mention is the Natural Wind Functions it had built in Now 😜🤙 But great Vid overall broham 💯 shout out from Tulsa Oklahoma
Wish I could buy 3 of the AC Inifinity’s S6 version 2 right now. Plus I wish AC Infinity actually had an Up & Coming page so we could at least check them out more.
@@gardensupplyguys that’s stupid since FB is dead basically and I can’t check because I shut my account down well over 15 years ago. If they can keep up with constantly improving all their tech why can’t they improve the website the way all their loyal people actually want, idk it’s just me personally but it seriously makes no sense for them to really only put it there when you can post it to their website and all other social media platforms cause if you can’t focus where the current social media trend is happening then put it on their site to make sure all buyers are constantly aware which then naturally will improve sales by at least 10% or even higher, or heck do it through email service so that people are always up to date no matter what through a simple news letter. Oh yeah I’ve even come across where they released new products but it wasn’t even in the new Products list on the front page lol. Honestly their site needs to be updated a bit cause yeah seeing new is great for sure but with them that feels more like your learning about it at the very last minute and like I said sometimes you don’t even see it mentioned on the front page. Apologies for the long reply lol. Have an amazing upcoming month, Namaste.
@@johnandrewtascar1076 The AC infinisty fans started making a clicking noise and were replaced free of charge within 7 days. I had 1 Vivosun fan fail and it was replaced free of charge just a fast.
I have used cheap clip on fans from Walmart in my tents and had some last a year or more. But a couple gave up their ghosts pretty quickly too. But not bad for 10 or 12 bucks. They don't oscillate but it doesn't matter much in a small tent. In my bigger tent I used 2. Lately I'm running an AC Infinity that doesn't oscillate and it's quieter for sure. The cheaper ones have crappy clips that I remember slipping on the poles a little and they were kinda hard to aim. Now I live in VA and there's a grow shop down the road from me a few miles. I'll probably see about one of the new AC Infinity fans you just showed.
Great input… I remember the ol clip fan big box days… 20 years ago thats all we had in most cases… the clips were junk… zip ties became essential for everything 🤣😅🤓 If your shop down the road doesn’t have the GEN2’s you can hit our link below. We just received our shipment. We ship fast, 6% off in cart sale 🛒 Call ☎️ if you have any questions www.GardenSupplyGuys.com
Thank you for this video! I bought a few of those cheap chinese ones on amazon a few years ago and they gave out on me after a month. Literally. So i broke down this year and bought an ac infinity gen 2, hooked it up, and 2 days later i was back in my grow shop and bought 3 more 😂 great products! Thanks for this though we needed this!
I don't know what you are talking about. AC Infinity is also made in China. You should pay more attention to how much you pay rather than where it is made.
Great video brother love it Can’t have any clicking noises coming out the grow in the Uk gotta be stealth mode from seed to harvest You make our lifes alot easier when it comes to buying kit and going into detail about it all love it ❤👍🏽🔥
Much love ❤️ from across the pond in Green Bay, WI 🌲🌲😎. We’ll keep at it my friend! Appreciate the supportive message. That alone makes our efforts worth while hearing you🫵❤️💯
Thanks for the Inside looks. Since there are quiete similar Fans, at least optical, i would like to see whats inside the Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer 6 inch Clip Fans. They look just like the AC Infinity or Vivosun Fans, would be interesting to know if they are any good.
Interesting how a Gen2 would click? The design wouldn’t allow. Make a video and text it to our store phone: 1-920-857-9493 Would love to see/hear where you say its clicking… A Gen1 will click, a Gen2 🤨🤨 Follow up 🫵🤓✅
As others have mentioned, Spider-Farmers oscillating clip fan seems to be on par with AC Infinity and some say they prefer it, it seems Spider Farmer doesn't have the clicking problem as often.
Well good news is this ! We got the new SPIDER FARMER and MARS HYDRO on order to do the same breakdowns inside.... So far what we have seen is each fan is essentially engineered differently. They may contain the same functions yes, but growers need to see what they are buying. We do it for the community. From what we see the New GEN2 AC Infinity is in the strong lead with its design and zero point re-cal function. Thanks for watching we love you guys !!!
@gardensupplyguys yes. Interesting video for people like myself. You have grow store back drop which is a great aesthetic others do not have. Great breakdown of the gear. Feel like I'm at the grow store.
Comparing the dc cable to the ac cable is apples to oranges. I think it makes more sense to have the transformer seperate. If it fails the ac infinity fan gets thrown out, the vivosun just replace the cord. Buy the Vivosun A6, it's all you need anyway. Every other fan motor in my house is ac, including my forced air furnace fan which has been running 24/7 for a decade and a half now.
I got a Vivosun E6. It was on sale on Amazon, and with a coupon code, I got it for $25. Had it about a month now, working well, very quiet, and a surprising amount of airflow produced. I'd like to try one of the AC Infinity Gen 2, but I believe he said it's a February release..?! Really great info, as I've seen others review/plug these new AC Infinity Gen 2 fans, but none have said they're "not yet available". Lord knows how many Gen 1 fans have been sold through "sponsors", showing off the new Gen 2, because said "sponsor" didn't say they're "not available until February". Similarly, some Vivosun sponsors have been showing the newest Tent models, much denser, better made, etc. Only to find out later they're not available yet either. This was the best fan review I've seen! I'd love to hear about the new Spider Farmer, and Mars Hydro, DC motor fans..?! Maybe you've already reviewed them..?! I'll check. And subscribe, if I'm not already subscribed.👍💯✌️
Hmmm when I looked at the VivoSun AC cable I believe it was a direct connection up into the housing. Swapping this out is not an option if that the case… fully attached means one piece and no Apples to Oranges… back to Apples 🍎 vs 🍏
@@gardensupplyguys But you can unsolder the old cable and solder a new cable to the terminals instead of throwing out a one piece motor/transformer/rectifier. Which all produce heat, You don't run 120v ac to your laptop. It runs hot enough without the transformer packed in there too. I wouldn't buy a fan with a dc motor to begin with. Better yet get the Vivosun A6 with an ac motor. Your exhaust fans are ac, they run 24/7 forever, the bearings will go before the motor. Every other fan in your house has an ac motor, bearings or cord are the fail points, rarely the ac motor. I call bs on your whole video.
Great sales pitch for AC trying to compete with vivo I wonder why you don't have spider farmer or Mars hydro or any other company's fans on this little demonstration on which one is better.👌
We dropped a first video on AC’s Gen2. This is when VivoSun was mentioned a couple times so we did a comparison. Not a sales pitch when we just point out the design. Just make your own choices after doing the research👍 I think we need to order in some Mars and Spyder units next. We love taking a look inside and it looks like others wanna see too.
@@gardensupplyguys The inflection in your voice when speaking on the two product says a lot. It is clear that you favor the AC. They are a great brand I have one.
My second vivosun just started to stop working when using the oscillating setting. When they try turing a certain way, they completely turn off. If i push the fan the other direction it will start again but stop again coming back. Only had them maybe half a year, the first stopped working maybe 3 months in, and the other yesterday. Ordered the spider farmer fans to see how those last, got one all ready to replace the first vivosun that stopped turning, we'll see. Probably won't go back to vivosun though for fans, still trying to tell if they have a replacement or something because both breaking within 6 months sucks, using them on the lowest setting also
We just ordered in a Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer. We will be ripping them apart soon to do FAN WARS 2. Be sure to subscribe and check it out. We wanna see ourselves 💯
I’m looking to dip on one of those gen 2 AC fans. This may be a daft question, but there’s small lights on the controls, surely they don’t stay on all the time? ✌🏻
Some people think we are paid by AC Infinity…. I fricken wish we got that AC Infinity moolah… We just point out the details and facts. Breaking these fans open helps answer alot of questions 🤓 I personally appreciate design and details like going through these inner mechanics 🧰
With the added UIS Plug 🔌 you can control any product using 120v with a trigger setting using the AC Infinity app… so yes you can but with an added AC Infinity accessory.
Definitely had fun looking inside. Second Fan Wars was good too between Mars/Spider. Our GEN2’s arrived and its still the best banger out 🏆💯 at price to feature/design. Spider Farmer has my attention also for their design.
Those vivosun fans are dangerous, in my opinion. I told them years ago that the implementation of the rotation feature causes frayed cables and exposed electrical wiring. They still have not fixed them, so I’d consider them to be a fire hazard.
Yup I have some of these newer version AC Infinity Fans. And, yes I have 2 older ones that do click. I heard it is best not to run them for more than 18hrs.
@@gardensupplyguys would love to have you come up and do a tech corner bit on the pod cast that we do TheHappyCultivator/HILLSGROWS SHOW @ @TheHappyCultivator
If using a smaller tent yes you a inline and outline vent filter systems fans. But once you get to larger tents like 8x8 or 10x10 you need fans. I recomend brushless motors whoever makes them does not matter the company. They sell universal fan clips online or are easily made w 3d printers or mill it out of metal or even wood. Be creative use your brain and never depend on a name.
Simulating natures breeze inside a tent is where clip fans are popular. Internal external vents does not achieve natures breeze and give your plants the right shake and shimmy promoting cellular division. Brushless motors are DC. Find what works and run it. You are right though… Buying a brand is not what makes you a good grower… its how you use the product that assists your grow in being optimal for the plants 🪴
@@gardensupplyguys sorry I typed that wrong I meant to say you need to exchange air 10X the square footage per minute. And brushless motors will safe you from house fire. Using good cabling from uline is best to as they are industry used in machine shops.
I do not believe they are still importing these fans into the USA. Did Secret Jardin change from a 120vac motor? If not stay clear as DC Motors is the only way for 24/7 applications.
😢 my long comment was deleted so I shorten it and hope youtube like it better. do any oscillating fan use USB-C for power? that's the fan I would/will get, imagine how nice "oh the cord is too short or it broke, just change it to a 15 feet USB-C cable for $5. also if they have steel gears ⚙️ do any fan have both steel gears and USB-C?
What if water falls flat into the USB-C cable plug at either end and makes it way into the port causing it to short or corrode. We pointed this out in Fan Wars Video on the Mars Hydro fan we tested. It had a cheap usb power plug direct from china with a USB regular plug… bad idea with high moisture areas like grow rooms ⚡️🔥
5:47, so basically, it's a skill issue. Dont let your fan hit the side of the tent. Dont bump the fan. Thats like saying the falw of this grow tent is you can knock your plants over lol.
The oscillating gear on the gen 2 is still a big epic fail point. And the cord in the neck is a fail point as well. The constant swing will cause a binding point and fray the cord like all other early fans using AC drive .,
I’ll have to check it out. Didn’t know they released one. In your opinion what do you like most about it? Let us know. We always seek the best for our shop
We did a Mars Hydro vs. Spider Farmer Fans. Here you go! Be sure to subscribe and we got new drops each week for breakdowns and learning vids 💯💪 FAN WARS: See Inside SPIDER FARMER vs MARS HYDRO Clip Fans ua-cam.com/video/VtJq4cyTWUs/v-deo.html
Just like the rock band.... We got AC/DC ! DC Motors good, AC Motors bad : ) Yes I was saying DC Motor with my poor midwest rasp. Thanks for watching though... we appreciate it !
But they do based on our testing. The head above twist the main electrical wire line down through the neck pivot point. The clearance is tight inside where we pointed out, over time it is possible… its cool you have your own opinion… this is just what we see.
We all know 99% of electronics are manufactured in china. No avoiding that due to costs. Apple also makes their IPHONES in china. Design is what matters 👍 When we say cheap china just refer to the first fan cause that was made knowing it would fail in a few weeks or months. No one wants to deal with that.
I have been told that Vivosun is owned by the same folks as AC infinity, and their stuff is cheaper and worse on purpose for market share as opposed to just being knockoffs
I would check your sources on that one. AC, Mars, Vivo and Spyder are not the same companies. All separate all vying for market share trying to create a better product than the next guy. This is good for the consumers. It pushes innovation and better designs from an engineering standpoint 👍 This is what makes the industry fun !
@gardensupplyguys I don't want to blow my source up or create drama, but let's say it was someone highly influential in the grow light industry who is known for their honesty and fairness in comparison tests. He only told me this after I lamented how it seems like how they all just let AC do the r&d work and then come out with cheaper/worse copies themselves like parasites to the industry.
@@Shakshuka69depends. Everyone basically follows HLG, as far as light until the bar light design hit. Second, the tents are made in the same factory. So there is validity to your remark but I not that serious
Or just do a cleaning on blade and a good blast of air to the gear areas to free up anything… a good cleaning keeps things like new. Or buy a new one and save time cause time is money in the grow world 💯
I had a feelin this s was an AC Infinity commercial. Newbies,,,dont do it. Stick to the $17 Hurricane clip on fans. All my Hurricane fans have been constantly running for 4 yrs. AC Infinity fans didnt even last 4 weeks. Sure AC Infinity will replace your broken fan,,,, but they will only replace them so many times. Thank me later. 👍🙏👍💯
We sold Hurricanes also. They do fail and the clip units are AC. Also Hurricanes are now discontinued and no longer produced. We like their wall mount fans alot and had to switch to Active Air brand 👍
@@gardensupplyguys- Easy There Geronimo… That Comment Is Likely From A Vivoson Rep. The Only Real Faults That AC Infinity Has… Are Their Supplier/Capital Short Coming Issues. Instead Of Their “CHINA” Orders Sitting On The Boat For 11/2-2 Months… They Need To Jump On Investors Who Inquire About Whether They May Be Interested In Taking A Worthwhile Investors Money To Bring Manufacturing Stateside. Especially When, AC’s Achiele’s Heel Is So Plainly Obvious To Most. “Capital”. Anyone With The Money, Would Have Taken Control Of Manufacturing, Instead Of Farming It Out Halfway Across The World.
My AC clip fans have been running for a year. The oscillation motors are tired and noisy but the fan itself works perfectly and it's the only affordable fan i know of with 10 speed settings
Seemed fair and honest imo also, actually went into detail and opened up the gear guts so we could see. This is a good video considering the amount spent on these fans with semi-concerning reliability. @gardensupplyguys
Don't waste your money on fans . Use 4 or 6 inch AC infinity inline blowers set 1 on the floor in the corner setting on a carbon filter or hang from tent pole. Temp control & cooling & air flow & filtering.
So zero air path changes in flow? Just ducts blowing? Huh 🤔 Well we like to simulate nature a little more…. Making your plants have a nice shake with changing direction increase stalk and stem strength and promotes strong cellular division. Without this you may be missing out on pushing those plants 🪴… sure plants wanna grow regardless… they will always try to thrive, but ask yourself what more could you do to optimize/maximize the perfect environment to get 💯 % out of the work you put in 💪. Its what we teach to our customers. There is a simple science behind indoor grows….. REPLICATE NATURE where the genetic evolved and started from and perfect its an environment.
Why do the old skool cheaps fans last forever you would have thought by now you would be able to buy a cheap fan with AC infinity quality it's only a fan
The GEN2 AC Infinity is rated at IP44 for light wet conditions like over spray hitting the fan. The new waterproof UIS Plug is a great improvement. VIVOSUN does not have an IP rating : (
Vivosun makes trash tier products. Most of their products are packaged like crap. Literally the product thrown in a flimsy cardboard box half smooshed in shipping. I’d steer clear of most of their stuff too. I don’t believe most of their stuff is even csa or etl approved which is a freaky notion considering how much in the past Vivosun stuff likes to catch fire.
We are going to do Mars vs Spyder Farmer next… getting some comments on these two units and people saying we are an AC Infinity commercial. That was not the point… The point is to show people what is inside driving these units and what we see. Round two coming soon !
@@gardensupplyguys I’m interested in seeing that video so I just subscribed to make sure I see it. Personally I didn’t think it was a bias opinion you offered. You literally shown the components and explained the pros/cons. Nobody has done a review like this on UA-cam I believe. This is what the gardening community needs
We listen and respect like minded ideas. Next vid is sounding like Mars Hydro vs Spyder Farmer Clip Fans. We are growers too. Knowing the facts is good 👍
I have been using the Gen 2 for a few weeks now and they have been amazing. Extremely quiet and smooth oscillation. Love that there’s 10 different levels of natural wind for the different plant stages.
Wolf of Wall Street and I quote:
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Got 2 of the original cloudray s6 during the preorder way back and they have been both running 24/7 for almost 2 yrs and still working hard.. …. Maybe I got lucky with these 2. I only touch them when I’m cleaning them or moving them up or down tent pole and I don’t use the fan adjuster to angle the fan up or down pretty sure that will extra stress on gears they been straight and they running good still
I was using vivosun fans before before they started making clicking noises. I knew I made the right choice out the box. The ac infinity fans are larger and heavy duty while the Vivosun looked was small like a kids toy fan with the green color.
Nailed it on the head. Couldn’t of said it better from our end 💯☝️👍🌱✅
I got the 1st & 2nd release of the AC Infinity and the 1st started clicking first week. The 2nd is running great for 2 months now. I’m looking forward to the version 2 for the no click and the controls off the fan itself. 1st version when you press the button it moves the fan. Good comparison review here, thanks 😉👍
Mars Hydro is also working great too. Just wish it was controlled by the main controller and had more speeds.
Spider Farmer have the best built so far
Yeah my ac infinity starting clicking right away pretty loud. The vivo sun is pretty quiet so far but only 2 days with it.
Thank you, we really did need this video. Much appreciated
Love the S6 gen2. Working great for me.
First time visitor to this channel. This is a great product review video. Thank you for making it! 100% subbed. Keep up the great work.
Very nice .. In a few days AC Infinity will finally come to Germany and then I will also give myself the fan. . Nice Video, thx 🙏
Always welcome 🤗
After watching this, I'm gonna wait till the gen2 is released. Thanks!
They are out ! Wooo hooo 😁
Me personally I'm sticking with my vivosun I've had mine for 6 months running 24 hours a day no problems no clicks no noise and I also like how it has the natural wind speed on it which slows and speeds up the fan while it's swiveling. 💯💪🚬⛽💨🚀
Thats whats up 💪. Sounds like you also probably take some time to ensure your fans are cleaned periodically. Always a good practice for any fan in a grow environment.
@gardensupplyguys, you should always clean your fans. Dirty fans reduce airflow. Dust also traps heat. I clean my pc fans every month even if they don't need it.
I am appreciative. One of my 6x Cloudray S6’s has the trouble with oscillation, some of the others click. I remember hitting it and hearing clicks from the contact my arm made, misaligning something inside and it was only oscillating on a tighter angle and then stopping, so I just turned off the oscillating feature on that one. If you’re sitting on a chair with wheels then you probably appreciate the functionality of such a device, I want a fan without the clicks! Otherwise it is top notch. Great video.
We enjoyed this one ☝️. It was a blast gutting these units 😮
Good video just got my gen 1 swapped out for a gen 2 can’t wait to try it out
Its silky-smoooove… imo, let us know what you think after a few weeks 👍
Youre Killin me smalls hah awesome shirt! Great Breakdown of each fan exactly what i was suspecting with each model> AC Infinty is just killin the game constant innovation soo much community support too Ive got 2 Gen 2s on the way they sent with no questions asked my gen 1s are clicky but still going 1 year later
AC Infinity in Sand Lot terms.
1. The Beast
2. The Great Bambino
3. Wendy Peffercorn
4. PF Flyers 👟
Thanks a lot for this technical review. Very helpful, even though I've already ordered the S6 and will receive it tomorrow morning.
The cord on the vivo, that speaks volumes. I'm glad I chose AC when I started building out my new system
Gen 2 S6 is a beast design 💪
I bought 4 Hurricane Clip fans in 2017 and they all are still going strong. One broke after falling i jammed it back together. The oscillating design is asking complications. Box fans worth well for the price..
The S6 is such a luxury and there is some great oscillating floor fans. Or mount an inline fan to the ten pole and let that indirectly blow air like mad
6 years out of a Hurricane clippy deserves our Trophy 🏆 for you maintaining your fans 👍. We sold plenty of those before the DC motor designs arrived.
Sad that Hurricane is no longer produced… Thank Monsanto-Scotts for that brand dying 😢
Yeah the Hurricanes are built slightly better than the Monkeys imo lol I've been using them for around 10yrs
this felt like an AC Infinity sales pitch.
I just filled out my S6 G2 redemption stuff to get my 2 clickers replaced .... And the only other New thing you didn't mention is the Natural Wind Functions it had built in Now 😜🤙 But great Vid overall broham 💯 shout out from Tulsa Oklahoma
Wish I could buy 3 of the AC Inifinity’s S6 version 2 right now. Plus I wish AC Infinity actually had an Up & Coming page so we could at least check them out more.
Too funny i actually mentioned that as well… response was to check their FB page. Thats where they make the new stuff coming soon posts.
@@gardensupplyguys that’s stupid since FB is dead basically and I can’t check because I shut my account down well over 15 years ago. If they can keep up with constantly improving all their tech why can’t they improve the website the way all their loyal people actually want, idk it’s just me personally but it seriously makes no sense for them to really only put it there when you can post it to their website and all other social media platforms cause if you can’t focus where the current social media trend is happening then put it on their site to make sure all buyers are constantly aware which then naturally will improve sales by at least 10% or even higher, or heck do it through email service so that people are always up to date no matter what through a simple news letter. Oh yeah I’ve even come across where they released new products but it wasn’t even in the new Products list on the front page lol. Honestly their site needs to be updated a bit cause yeah seeing new is great for sure but with them that feels more like your learning about it at the very last minute and like I said sometimes you don’t even see it mentioned on the front page. Apologies for the long reply lol. Have an amazing upcoming month, Namaste.
Thank you for the video. Very informative. Good to know where to put my money. I have 2 of the AC Infinity fans and 2 of the VIVOSUN fans.
Are they both still working?
@@johnandrewtascar1076 The AC infinisty fans started making a clicking noise and were replaced free of charge within 7 days. I had 1 Vivosun fan fail and it was replaced free of charge just a fast.
I have used cheap clip on fans from Walmart in my tents and had some last a year or more. But a couple gave up their ghosts pretty quickly too. But not bad for 10 or 12 bucks. They don't oscillate but it doesn't matter much in a small tent. In my bigger tent I used 2. Lately I'm running an AC Infinity that doesn't oscillate and it's quieter for sure. The cheaper ones have crappy clips that I remember slipping on the poles a little and they were kinda hard to aim. Now I live in VA and there's a grow shop down the road from me a few miles. I'll probably see about one of the new AC Infinity fans you just showed.
Great input… I remember the ol clip fan big box days… 20 years ago thats all we had in most cases… the clips were junk… zip ties became essential for everything 🤣😅🤓
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Ive gone thru two ac infinity fans both started clicking. Thinking about trying the vivosun
Thank you for this video! I bought a few of those cheap chinese ones on amazon a few years ago and they gave out on me after a month. Literally. So i broke down this year and bought an ac infinity gen 2, hooked it up, and 2 days later i was back in my grow shop and bought 3 more 😂 great products! Thanks for this though we needed this!
I don't know what you are talking about. AC Infinity is also made in China. You should pay more attention to how much you pay rather than where it is made.
My AC Infinity S6 is still working after like two years. Oscillating 24/7, they say don’t do this, but that works too. It clicks, but I don’t care.
Great video brother love it Can’t have any clicking noises coming out the grow in the Uk gotta be stealth mode from seed to harvest
You make our lifes alot easier when it comes to buying kit and going into detail about it all love it ❤👍🏽🔥
Much love ❤️ from across the pond in Green Bay, WI 🌲🌲😎.
We’ll keep at it my friend! Appreciate the supportive message.
That alone makes our efforts worth while hearing you🫵❤️💯
Love it keep it up 🇬🇧🏴❤️💯
Thanks for the Inside looks.
Since there are quiete similar Fans, at least optical, i would like to see whats inside the Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer 6 inch Clip Fans. They look just like the AC Infinity or Vivosun Fans, would be interesting to know if they are any good.
Just installed my 2 new S6's One of them clicks
Interesting how a Gen2 would click? The design wouldn’t allow.
Make a video and text it to our store phone: 1-920-857-9493
Would love to see/hear where you say its clicking… A Gen1 will click, a Gen2 🤨🤨
Follow up 🫵🤓✅
As others have mentioned, Spider-Farmers oscillating clip fan seems to be on par with AC Infinity and some say they prefer it, it seems Spider Farmer doesn't have the clicking problem as often.
Well good news is this !
We got the new SPIDER FARMER and MARS HYDRO on order to do the same breakdowns inside.... So far what we have seen is each fan is essentially engineered differently. They may contain the same functions yes, but growers need to see what they are buying. We do it for the community.
From what we see the New GEN2 AC Infinity is in the strong lead with its design and zero point re-cal function.
Thanks for watching we love you guys !!!
@gardensupplyguys yes. Interesting video for people like myself. You have grow store back drop which is a great aesthetic others do not have. Great breakdown of the gear. Feel like I'm at the grow store.
Comparing the dc cable to the ac cable is apples to oranges. I think it makes more sense to have the transformer seperate. If it fails the ac infinity fan gets thrown out, the vivosun just replace the cord. Buy the Vivosun A6, it's all you need anyway. Every other fan motor in my house is ac, including my forced air furnace fan which has been running 24/7 for a decade and a half now.
I got a Vivosun E6. It was on sale on Amazon, and with a coupon code, I got it for $25. Had it about a month now, working well, very quiet, and a surprising amount of airflow produced.
I'd like to try one of the AC Infinity Gen 2, but I believe he said it's a February release..?!
Really great info, as I've seen others review/plug these new AC Infinity Gen 2 fans, but none have said they're "not yet available".
Lord knows how many Gen 1 fans have been sold through "sponsors", showing off the new Gen 2, because said "sponsor" didn't say they're "not available until February".
Similarly, some Vivosun sponsors have been showing the newest Tent models, much denser, better made, etc. Only to find out later they're not available yet either.
This was the best fan review I've seen! I'd love to hear about the new Spider Farmer, and Mars Hydro, DC motor fans..?! Maybe you've already reviewed them..?! I'll check. And subscribe, if I'm not already subscribed.👍💯✌️
Hmmm when I looked at the VivoSun AC cable I believe it was a direct connection up into the housing. Swapping this out is not an option if that the case… fully attached means one piece and no Apples to Oranges… back to Apples 🍎 vs 🍏
@@timturk1899appreciate that Tim. I think we gotta get the Mars and Spyder models and to do the same breakdown.
@@gardensupplyguys But you can unsolder the old cable and solder a new cable to the terminals instead of throwing out a one piece motor/transformer/rectifier. Which all produce heat, You don't run 120v ac to your laptop. It runs hot enough without the transformer packed in there too. I wouldn't buy a fan with a dc motor to begin with. Better yet get the Vivosun A6 with an ac motor. Your exhaust fans are ac, they run 24/7 forever, the bearings will go before the motor. Every other fan in your house has an ac motor, bearings or cord are the fail points, rarely the ac motor. I call bs on your whole video.
Wow ok 👌 I've had more stand up Oscillating fans fail than I can count 😅😅
great video! blessings from Berlin!
Much love from the Cheese Heads in Wisconsin 🧀 to our boys in Berlin 🫵💯❤️🌱🤓
Great sales pitch for AC trying to compete with vivo I wonder why you don't have spider farmer or Mars hydro or any other company's fans on this little demonstration on which one is better.👌
We dropped a first video on AC’s Gen2. This is when VivoSun was mentioned a couple times so we did a comparison.
Not a sales pitch when we just point out the design.
Just make your own choices after doing the research👍
I think we need to order in some Mars and Spyder units next.
We love taking a look inside and it looks like others wanna see too.
@@gardensupplyguys The inflection in your voice when speaking on the two product says a lot. It is clear that you favor the AC. They are a great brand I have one.
Thanks for making this video 👍👍
My second vivosun just started to stop working when using the oscillating setting. When they try turing a certain way, they completely turn off. If i push the fan the other direction it will start again but stop again coming back. Only had them maybe half a year, the first stopped working maybe 3 months in, and the other yesterday. Ordered the spider farmer fans to see how those last, got one all ready to replace the first vivosun that stopped turning, we'll see. Probably won't go back to vivosun though for fans, still trying to tell if they have a replacement or something because both breaking within 6 months sucks, using them on the lowest setting also
We just ordered in a Mars Hydro and Spider Farmer. We will be ripping them apart soon to do FAN WARS 2.
Be sure to subscribe and check it out. We wanna see ourselves 💯
I’m looking to dip on one of those gen 2 AC fans.
This may be a daft question, but there’s small lights on the controls, surely they don’t stay on all the time?
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Great vid the new AC S6 Gen 2 is a beast 💪OOOOH YEAH!!!! 🔥🔥🔥
Some people think we are paid by AC Infinity….
I fricken wish we got that AC Infinity moolah…
We just point out the details and facts. Breaking these fans open helps answer alot of questions 🤓
I personally appreciate design and details like going through these inner mechanics 🧰
@@gardensupplyguys i was just amazed with the new features. After seeing your vid i know these new upgrades will last for a good while. Great stuff 🙌
Great video
Glad you enjoyed it. Facts matter to us.
8:02 power supplies generate a lot of heat. Moving the power supply outside the tent can help reduce unnecessary heat.
I have one run in with the vivo 6 its been a great fan so far
Appreciate the input… keep growing 🌱
Thx for showing where the 71 Dollars/Euros went to when u buy one
I have 2 of old vivosun oscillating fans, only 2 speeds
But they work great for over a year now
Just keep the blades clean and keep em going 👍
Could you control the Vivosun E6 with an AC Infinity 69 Pro Contoller?
With the added UIS Plug 🔌 you can control any product using 120v with a trigger setting using the AC Infinity app… so yes you can but with an added AC Infinity accessory.
I got mine (S6-GEN2) yesterday. I bought an amazon osc fan and got 1 month of use and it died. I hope to get at least 1 year out of this new design.
my dumbass for sure bumped it in my tent and thats what made it clicky thanks for all the insight
Definitely had fun looking inside.
Second Fan Wars was good too between Mars/Spider.
Our GEN2’s arrived and its still the best banger out 🏆💯 at price to feature/design. Spider Farmer has my attention also for their design.
my gen 2s just arrived as well they are beeefy@@gardensupplyguys
If you say so. I ordered mine today
Great video!!
Glad you enjoyed it, we enjoyed making it for you 😎
Leave it to potheads to improve the basic fan design. Go us!!
If there was a way to put a comment directly at the very top 😂… Hey with enough time and toke we can solve world hunger next 😊
Thanks for sharing
We appreciate the love here ❤
Those vivosun fans are dangerous, in my opinion. I told them years ago that the implementation of the rotation feature causes frayed cables and exposed electrical wiring. They still have not fixed them, so I’d consider them to be a fire hazard.
I have bought 4 AC Infinity S6 over the last 18 months. 3 have stopped oscillating.
They do have a 2 year warranty. Contact AC or your retailer and get them replaced. You paid for oscillation and you deserve what you paid for.
@gardensupplyguys yeah, my local store has taken care of me.
At least it has been improved
Yup I have some of these newer version AC Infinity Fans. And, yes I have 2 older ones that do click. I heard it is best not to run them for more than 18hrs.
We have some Gen1 clickers running here 24/7. So far no failure, just the sweet sounds of…. Click, click, click but you get use to the beat… 🎶
keep up the good work!!!
Thanks, will do! We appreciate the fact people even watch our stuff 😂🌱❤️
@@gardensupplyguys would love to have you come up and do a tech corner bit on the pod cast that we do
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@jhillsgrows we would love to come on to your show for a podcast!
If using a smaller tent yes you a inline and outline vent filter systems fans. But once you get to larger tents like 8x8 or 10x10 you need fans. I recomend brushless motors whoever makes them does not matter the company. They sell universal fan clips online or are easily made w 3d printers or mill it out of metal or even wood. Be creative use your brain and never depend on a name.
Simulating natures breeze inside a tent is where clip fans are popular. Internal external vents does not achieve natures breeze and give your plants the right shake and shimmy promoting cellular division.
Brushless motors are DC. Find what works and run it. You are right though…
Buying a brand is not what makes you a good grower… its how you use the product that assists your grow in being optimal for the plants 🪴
@@gardensupplyguys sorry I typed that wrong I meant to say you need to exchange air 10X the square footage per minute. And brushless motors will safe you from house fire. Using good cabling from uline is best to as they are industry used in machine shops.
Well things have improved from the Secret Jarden Monkey fan and things will only get better
I do not believe they are still importing these fans into the USA. Did Secret Jardin change from a 120vac motor? If not stay clear as DC Motors is the only way for 24/7 applications.
Great video my ac fans def clicked clacking
It may clicky-clicky but if it still worky then run it if AC sends out a GEN2 👍
Thats a bonus backup 💯
@@gardensupplyguys ok ✅
Yeah ACI is replacing all gen1 units rn ..😉🤙
@@winstonpratt604 great service and a respectable move ✅
Have a Vivosun that lost the oscilation motor tried vto find a new motor with no luck
My ac infinity stopped oscillating in under a month, but it is still working. I should see if they will replace it
They are doing a gen 2 replacement thing rn if you go full out the Forms on the site ....😜🤙
I have used vivo and hurricane no issue.
If it works it works … we loved Hurricanes but their clip and wall mounts are discontinued now… Hawthorne ruined that brand 😔
😢 my long comment was deleted so I shorten it and hope youtube like it better.
do any oscillating fan use USB-C for power? that's the fan I would/will get, imagine how nice "oh the cord is too short or it broke, just change it to a 15 feet USB-C cable for $5.
also if they have steel gears ⚙️
do any fan have both steel gears and USB-C?
What if water falls flat into the USB-C cable plug at either end and makes it way into the port causing it to short or corrode.
We pointed this out in Fan Wars Video on the Mars Hydro fan we tested. It had a cheap usb power plug direct from china with a USB regular plug… bad idea with high moisture areas like grow rooms ⚡️🔥
5:47, so basically, it's a skill issue. Dont let your fan hit the side of the tent. Dont bump the fan. Thats like saying the falw of this grow tent is you can knock your plants over lol.
The oscillating gear on the gen 2 is still a big epic fail point. And the cord in the neck is a fail point as well. The constant swing will cause a binding point and fray the cord like all other early fans using AC drive .,
Spider Farmer has the best made fan so far
I’ll have to check it out. Didn’t know they released one. In your opinion what do you like most about it? Let us know. We always seek the best for our shop
We ordered a SPIDER FARMER and a MARS HYDRO - FAN WARS 2 coming soon !
The gen 2 is the best on the table from aci
I was hoping to see some spider farmer fans. Whats the word for those?
We did a Mars Hydro vs. Spider Farmer Fans. Here you go! Be sure to subscribe and we got new drops each week for breakdowns and learning vids 💯💪
FAN WARS:
See Inside SPIDER FARMER vs MARS HYDRO Clip Fans
ua-cam.com/video/VtJq4cyTWUs/v-deo.html
My gen 1 acfinity shit bed after 2 months they sent me 2 gen 2 and im very happy.
Not sure why I don’t research this shit before I buy a bunch of junk crap from the other company! Ya get what ya pay for! Thanks for the info!
We felt this video had to be made for that reason exactly 👍
Are u saying DC motor or ec motor in this video
Just like the rock band.... We got AC/DC ! DC Motors good, AC Motors bad : ) Yes I was saying DC Motor with my poor midwest rasp.
Thanks for watching though... we appreciate it !
those wires in the vivosun arent gonna move and twist like you say,,,
But they do based on our testing. The head above twist the main electrical wire line down through the neck pivot point. The clearance is tight inside where we pointed out, over time it is possible… its cool you have your own opinion… this is just what we see.
Having owned 6 secret jardin fans because other brands were unavailable, i have to say stay tf away from that brand! All of them died within weeks.
We definitely feel your pain on that one. I remember those units. That was the un-named we did not want to speak of 😔
10$Amazon monkey fans. That's all i mess with now. Not bad at all for the price. No issues for 3 grows so far
I like how he says cheap China design. I’m pretty sure all my fans are made in China bro.
the improved desgins were thought of by USA engineers. the cheap design was Chinese engineering
We all know 99% of electronics are manufactured in china. No avoiding that due to costs. Apple also makes their IPHONES in china.
Design is what matters 👍
When we say cheap china just refer to the first fan cause that was made knowing it would fail in a few weeks or months. No one wants to deal with that.
I have been told that Vivosun is owned by the same folks as AC infinity, and their stuff is cheaper and worse on purpose for market share as opposed to just being knockoffs
I would check your sources on that one. AC, Mars, Vivo and Spyder are not the same companies. All separate all vying for market share trying to create a better product than the next guy.
This is good for the consumers. It pushes innovation and better designs from an engineering standpoint 👍
This is what makes the industry fun !
@gardensupplyguys I don't want to blow my source up or create drama, but let's say it was someone highly influential in the grow light industry who is known for their honesty and fairness in comparison tests.
He only told me this after I lamented how it seems like how they all just let AC do the r&d work and then come out with cheaper/worse copies themselves like parasites to the industry.
@@Shakshuka69depends. Everyone basically follows HLG, as far as light until the bar light design hit. Second, the tents are made in the same factory. So there is validity to your remark but I not that serious
All in all just replace them every 6 months why risk having a fire and stuffing a crop due to a $60 fan.
Or just do a cleaning on blade and a good blast of air to the gear areas to free up anything… a good cleaning keeps things like new. Or buy a new one and save time cause time is money in the grow world 💯
I had a feelin this s was an AC Infinity commercial. Newbies,,,dont do it. Stick to the $17 Hurricane clip on fans. All my Hurricane fans have been constantly running for 4 yrs. AC Infinity fans didnt even last 4 weeks. Sure AC Infinity will replace your broken fan,,,, but they will only replace them so many times. Thank me later. 👍🙏👍💯
If it is I haven’t seen a damn dime of that money 💰
We sold Hurricanes also. They do fail and the clip units are AC. Also Hurricanes are now discontinued and no longer produced. We like their wall mount fans alot and had to switch to Active Air brand 👍
@@gardensupplyguys- Easy There Geronimo… That Comment Is Likely From A Vivoson Rep.
The Only Real Faults That AC Infinity Has… Are Their Supplier/Capital Short Coming Issues.
Instead Of Their “CHINA” Orders Sitting On The Boat For 11/2-2 Months… They Need To Jump On Investors Who Inquire About Whether They May Be Interested In Taking A Worthwhile Investors Money To Bring Manufacturing Stateside.
Especially When, AC’s Achiele’s Heel Is So Plainly Obvious To Most.
“Capital”.
Anyone With The Money, Would Have Taken Control Of Manufacturing, Instead Of Farming It Out Halfway Across The World.
My AC clip fans have been running for a year. The oscillation motors are tired and noisy but the fan itself works perfectly and it's the only affordable fan i know of with 10 speed settings
Seemed fair and honest imo also, actually went into detail and opened up the gear guts so we could see. This is a good video considering the amount spent on these fans with semi-concerning reliability.
@gardensupplyguys
Tell me you hate vivosun without telling me you hate….
Don't waste your money on fans . Use 4 or 6 inch AC infinity inline blowers set 1 on the floor in the corner setting on a carbon filter or hang from tent pole. Temp control & cooling & air flow & filtering.
So zero air path changes in flow? Just ducts blowing? Huh 🤔
Well we like to simulate nature a little more…. Making your plants have a nice shake with changing direction increase stalk and stem strength and promotes strong cellular division.
Without this you may be missing out on pushing those plants 🪴… sure plants wanna grow regardless… they will always try to thrive, but ask yourself what more could you do to optimize/maximize the perfect environment to get 💯 % out of the work you put in 💪.
Its what we teach to our customers.
There is a simple science behind indoor grows….. REPLICATE NATURE where the genetic evolved and started from and perfect its an environment.
@@gardensupplyguys I also use fans
Why do the old skool cheaps fans last forever you would have thought by now you would be able to buy a cheap fan with AC infinity quality it's only a fan
AC infinity fans don't push enough air.
Hmmmm whats enough then? Maybe move up to a larger fan blade size. 12” or 16” may be what you need.
My vivosun fan broke after 25 days. would grind and then stopped osolating. DO NOT BUY. Vivosun would not RMA fan
Clip fan more like click fan, AC infinity shocking oscillating system
We see the new design on the AC Gen2 as a real step forward in fixing some of the headaches we see with the clip fan world.
Can it take spray? No? Fail
The GEN2 AC Infinity is rated at IP44 for light wet conditions like over spray hitting the fan. The new waterproof UIS Plug is a great improvement.
VIVOSUN does not have an IP rating : (
That’s funny, the worst part about being AC as you can be electrocuted😢
Vivosun makes trash tier products. Most of their products are packaged like crap. Literally the product thrown in a flimsy cardboard box half smooshed in shipping. I’d steer clear of most of their stuff too. I don’t believe most of their stuff is even csa or etl approved which is a freaky notion considering how much in the past Vivosun stuff likes to catch fire.
I heard MarsHydro has a new fan that “supposedly” is better than the ac infinity units
We are going to do Mars vs Spyder Farmer next… getting some comments on these two units and people saying we are an AC Infinity commercial. That was not the point…
The point is to show people what is inside driving these units and what we see.
Round two coming soon !
@@gardensupplyguys I’m interested in seeing that video so I just subscribed to make sure I see it. Personally I didn’t think it was a bias opinion you offered. You literally shown the components and explained the pros/cons. Nobody has done a review like this on UA-cam I believe. This is what the gardening community needs
Why you want burn my house down. Vivosun?
😂 🔥… We hope not
Cheap fans for life!
If they work then you save those ducketts 💴 for other grower essentials…😊
Ac infinity is trash
😂 Sooooo you didn’t like the video and what was shown ☝️
No matter who’s better, they are all severely and grossly overpriced.
@gardensupplyguys
Cant believe you made this so quickly after i sugested.
Subscribed my dude
We listen and respect like minded ideas.
Next vid is sounding like Mars Hydro vs Spyder Farmer Clip Fans.
We are growers too. Knowing the facts is good 👍