Thanks for the details. I could only recently find Hamilton Pimento and for years had to make the liqueur and a few years back found a local liqueur the is similar made for Christmas, though both have a vanilla note. Now the Hamilton does taste different but not 180 degree so glad I picked up and made my own.
@@stephane.foisy.186 yea, I’m excited to work my own recipe and tweak it. Iv got some great info on old school allspice drams that Donn and Vic would’ve used so gonna try and recreate that.
@@MixingUpTiki Drunken Helmsman : 1oz Lime Juice, 1/2oz Maple Syrup, 1/2oz Falernum (prefer the new Liquid Alchemist), 1/2oz Amaro, 1/4oz Hamilton Pimento Dram, 2 dashes Angostura Bitters, 1.5oz Planteray OFTD. Shake and pour into a double rocks glass. It's originally a Jason Alexander cocktail but this is our favorite variation. Quite tasty!
You're right about the St. Elizabeth being spice forward. I just did a quick comparison between Ed's and Lizzie's drams (don't have any bitter truth). I'd sip the Hamilton and mix with Liz. And, the Ancient Mariner is a top 10 tiki drink for me. Always served at Thanksgiving. Can't wait for your homemade dram episode.
Thanks for doing this comparison. I've always wondered about Hamilton's Pimento Dram and how it would compare to one's I've been able to get or make myself. I also may just get a bunch of pimento and drop it in my bottle of Bitter Truth to see if that will boost it up a bit to see if I can get it closer to the St Elizabeth. Will be looking forward to the recipe for your version too.
@@BadlanderOutsider I don’t know if the ABV of The Bitter Truth is high enough to really extract enough of the flavor compounds from the allspice. You could, however, make an allspice extract and add that. That would definitely work.
Almost didn't make it to the end before asking about your own recipe! I can't get allspice dram here in NC either (don't get me started on the abysmal selection of liquors in ABC stores) What about an allspice tincture/extract in rum where you can dial in sweetness yourself?
Thanks
@@BG-gr7fh welcome?
Thanks for the details. I could only recently find Hamilton Pimento and for years had to make the liqueur and a few years back found a local liqueur the is similar made for Christmas, though both have a vanilla note. Now the Hamilton does taste different but not 180 degree so glad I picked up and made my own.
@@stephane.foisy.186 yea, I’m excited to work my own recipe and tweak it. Iv got some great info on old school allspice drams that Donn and Vic would’ve used so gonna try and recreate that.
Those are some interesting drams for sure :)
@@boozeontherocks yea it was pretty eye opening to taste them side by side
The only thing I've used Hamilton Pimento Dram for is a Zombie King.
@@SpaceWolfPainter Yea, I gotta grab some blue chair to try that cocktail out.
thank you! background music is kinda loud this time around though
@@fidyt9010 interesting, it’s the same level I usually use. Maybe my mic didn’t pick up my audio as much.
Ancient Mariner is a great cocktail (and it's variation "The Drunken Helmsman")!
@@scotty_tiki-ohana what’s the drunken helmsman? I’m not familiar with that one.
@@MixingUpTiki Drunken Helmsman : 1oz Lime Juice, 1/2oz Maple Syrup, 1/2oz Falernum (prefer the new Liquid Alchemist), 1/2oz Amaro, 1/4oz Hamilton Pimento Dram, 2 dashes Angostura Bitters, 1.5oz Planteray OFTD. Shake and pour into a double rocks glass. It's originally a Jason Alexander cocktail but this is our favorite variation. Quite tasty!
@ Hamilton doesn’t make the OFTD. So did you mean Hamilton 151 or Planteray OFTD?
@@MixingUpTiki yes! my bad typo lol
@@MixingUpTiki Just fixed it!
You're right about the St. Elizabeth being spice forward. I just did a quick comparison between Ed's and Lizzie's drams (don't have any bitter truth). I'd sip the Hamilton and mix with Liz. And, the Ancient Mariner is a top 10 tiki drink for me. Always served at Thanksgiving. Can't wait for your homemade dram episode.
@@BigHairyCrank Ed and Lizzie lol sounds like the name of an 80’s sitcom.
Thanks for this, the only 1 ive tried is homemade, and the only 1 i can buy is bitter truth. So I think I stay with homemade for now
@@Tikikingen bitter truth is good and def makes a great cocktail.
Thanks for doing this comparison. I've always wondered about Hamilton's Pimento Dram and how it would compare to one's I've been able to get or make myself. I also may just get a bunch of pimento and drop it in my bottle of Bitter Truth to see if that will boost it up a bit to see if I can get it closer to the St Elizabeth. Will be looking forward to the recipe for your version too.
@@BadlanderOutsider I don’t know if the ABV of The Bitter Truth is high enough to really extract enough of the flavor compounds from the allspice.
You could, however, make an allspice extract and add that. That would definitely work.
That's a good point. Thanks for the advice.
agreed 100%
@@maitaioneon this might be the first time you and I have agreed on everything! Lol
Historical moment.
@ you said that to me at least 10 other times so probably not the first time :)
@ fair enough lol
Almost didn't make it to the end before asking about your own recipe! I can't get allspice dram here in NC either (don't get me started on the abysmal selection of liquors in ABC stores)
What about an allspice tincture/extract in rum where you can dial in sweetness yourself?
@@madman2572 already working on it lol
nice!
waiting for the recipe since Ontario doesnt have any Allspice Dram to buy and my homemade is almost used up.
It’s on my list to shoot!
Looks like you have a small typo in the Ancient Mariner recipe: 1/20z (15ml) White Grapefruit Juice
@@keithfleming3042 thanks. Yea that should be 1/2oz not Oz lol
Why wouldn't Hamilton use their own pot stilled rum as the base??
@@philiproberts4101 Hamilton doesn’t have their own rums. All of their rums are sourced from worthy park and then bottled by Hamilton.
@MixingUpTiki interesting. I didn't know that
@ now you know and knowing is half the battle lol
Was really interested in this, but have ducked out early because the background music is too distracting. Sorry.
@@realmaraschino sorry you find it distracting. It’s hard to find music that fits everyone’s tastes.
@@MixingUpTiki not a taste issue, its a level issue. Like trying to talk to a friend at a noisy bar :)
@ yea that’s weird. I used the same levels I always do. Wonder what happened.