First Kia EV6 Road Trip In America! Over 1,000 Miles To Dallas For A First Time Electric Car Owner
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- Опубліковано 11 вер 2024
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Our friend Emad bought a Kia EV6 77.4kWh AWD Wind from over 1,000 miles north of his home in Texas! As far as we know this is the first independent road trip in an EV6 in America at the time of filming. Of course Kia drove one across the country for the Guinness record but the Out of Spec team feels we could have beaten their time easily.
Emad flies to Green Bay to buy the car, then picks up Jordan Schiefer in Chicago, and the two of them experience the midwest in winter on their first EV road trip using CCS. Emad talks about his buying experience, first thoughts on the Kia EV6, and they experience a variety of charging experiences, temperatures, and charging networks!
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When in cold area use hot water and wash clot or microfiber towel and wrap the damp hot cloth around the charging head to speed up the charger! Plus find Hotel with chargers for guests!
Getting "Not Found" 404" on the link for the coffee
Sorry, but comparing American coffee with European coffee is like comparing washing clothes water with real coffee, respectively.
Pro tip: if you are worried about range slipstream behind a semi.
Nice summary! One little tip from a veteran EV road tripper: Pick a hotel with overnight Level 2 charging so that at least the first leg of the trip is started at 100% and you don't have to charge a cold battery.
I've had a rough time finding hotels with L2 charging, especially driving from Texas to Oklahoma. Is there a reliable app or link that could help? The ones I've tried aren't much help.
This cant be overstated! It justifies a better hotel, as the fuel is free, thus taking some anxiety away from staying in a cheap hotel and helping you plan ahead.
@@Shapoopie16 PlugShare is still the king of comprehensive charging spot finder apps in North America. Sometimes you have to get creative. Ask to plug into a standard 120V outlet at a hotel, find a campground with cabins near a NEMA 14-50 outlet, etc. Anything helps until, as you point out, the charging infrastructure catches up. Also, if you have no other choice but to DCFC, do it while the battery is still warm at the end of the day. Charging a cold soaked battery in the morning sucks.
I feel more at ease by stopping @ a L3 charger location for the night and charge up after dinner. Kyle Conner advises charging when the battery is warm. Would be ready to commit “ harrycarry” if I came out in the morning to find someone had damaged my charger port.
@Bill B thats why you spring for the nicer hotel given you get a free tip up..
Would have thought the total "charging" procedure would be less complicated by now.
Props to Emad for not paying over MSRP, buyers need to refuse overcharges no matter how much they want a product.
It is. I plug in at EA station, and I have a virtual card in my apple wallet. NFC that MF and the charge started.
@@cmbadass unfortunately not the same for everyone
Tesla absolutely knocked it out of the park with the size and simplicity of their network
@@daguzify I mean, yeah. I remember a client building the superchargers in 2012 in Chattanooga. They have a HUGE head start, even if they are at airports, which aren’t always super easy yo reach. Electrify America being at Walmarts, Kroger, Target, and even shopping centers close to the interstate is a good plan.
@@cmbadass Tesla chargers are at airports??? Must be new. Tesla chargers are in supermarkets and highway exits when I use them.
@@daguzify Yeah, the original network was at airports.
I understand the frustration with cold weather charging speeds relative to the advertised speed, but having done a 7,700 mile road trip in a 2020 Chevy Bolt that tops out at just over 50kW this looks like luxury to me.
haha yes, laughed a little when they were bummed at 150+ kW speeds at 62% SOG
I felt the same way having owned a Leaf previously.
@@lanceareadbhar lol! I’m on my second Bolt after two Leafs. I think the Bolt is great and certainly a fantastic value, but for my next EV I insist on faster charging and adaptive cruise control as a bare minimum. I was very surprised when they didn’t offer them on the 2022 Bolt. Seems like a missed opportunity to me.
I’m lucky if I get about 50kW at 62% in my P85D
Lmao same. Drove Bolt from Texas to Cali and was lucky to be charging at 55 kWh for more than 15-20 minutes before the steep drop offs. This looks great to me and I’m sure the Kia will be even better once they allow battery preheating. I can’t even imagine what 100 kWh charging is like let alone 230. Drove a first gen leaf before the bolt so I laughed when they had range anxiety. You haven’t had true range anxiety until you try to drive a 80 mile range EV 100 miles by going 40 mph on the highway with no heat in the winter and a completely fogged up windshield. That’s anxiety.
I cannot believe I sat through this entire trip. The best part is, I felt like a passenger on the trip. This was well shot and well worth the time. I started watching but then, I found I wanted to keep watching. Going into the hotel was cool, having breakfast and stuff was pretty awesome. I'm considering my next car to be electric which is probably why I stuck around. Thank you for the ride-along. My first time on your channel. It's been real. Be well.
My exact feeling, watched the whole video 😁. I think I made a good choice getting the model 3 long range.
Those sub-100kW charge speeds are brutal. Battery preconditioning is not just a luxury, it's must in 2022.
I have not seen over 120 but once. Super frustrating.
@@Emadifications you need to absolutely beat the crap out of it to heat the pack
If you think that’s bad try driving a Bolt EV cross country. Max 54, average around 25-30
@@Emadifications pre heating battery for charging has been reported for Hyundai ioniq 5 in the latest Uk software. The software is distributed using the same website as the ev6 so the hope is the next release has it enabled and on the ev6. Plus ota so no more website and usb drive to update.
@@ericcindycrowder7482 that’s a matter of poor vehicle choice for road tripping
Can tell these guys are from a warm climate, wearing hats and jackets in the car, when the temps are set to 70F. 😂
I have a jacket in my car too....actually several of them. Houston is fiking cold now! 😆 🤣 😂 😹
@@SibHoustonTX proving his point.
@@jerrywaynerose it will be 20F tonight here, Houston! I miss hot Houston.. lol
I think they're just hipsters
I can’t wear heavy clothes when I’m inside of a car.
This is similar to what my wife and I did when I got my Model S LR+. We flew to Massachusetts and drive over 1,600mi home. I had never owned one, and just like that drove it halfway across the country. Tesla’s make it SO easy to do this via the maps and of course the SC network. I’ve now been a very happy EV owner for nearly 3mo!
Great look into what first time EV owners will be experiencing on trips!
On-route battery preconditioning seems to be the largest problem with this car. Every stop had an ice cold battery limiting charging speeds even with Winter Mode enabled. Warm weather trips should be much better but then we’ll see how well the cooling system can handle repeated high charging rates.
Great to hear about the buying experience and vehicle spec midway through the video as I fear a lot of people are paying over sticker for these cars. Nice work finding one at MSRP!
Agreed this is the biggest issue, trip from raleigh to boston in my Ioniq 5 was great fast charging in warmer weather saw up to 240kw , coming back down was snowing and freezing never saw above 150kw.
“Winter mode doesn’t do jack shit”
-Bjorn Nyland-
I just paid $1400 less than sticker for an Ioniq 5 Limited in Utah. Great dealerships recognize the chance for future repeat business.
@@spencer1370 bjorn is the guy and he would know. Tom from inside ev’s keeps quoting 18 minutes and I am screening at my tv not in the winter. My leaf takes an extra 1/2 hour than in summer.
When will it become standard on EVs??? I asked a Ford engineer about the Mach-E 2 years ago during winter testing and he told me that the Mach-E would always be ready for level 3 charging. NO CARS ARE READY WITHOUT BATTERY PREHEAT! What's frustrating is that it is just software because the hardware is already there in most of the cars. Battery preheat must be standard in all cars (even manual) and battery temperature should always be displayed like the oil temp was in ICE cars.
Nice to see a long trip happen with someone that's never been in an EV before.
Just checked out an EV6 in Charlotte NC today and the dealer was charging $10k over asking.
Ford and GM, I believe GM did as well, but anyway, they came out and said that should NOT be happening and they will take steps to dealers that are caught doing this...
The issue with range these guys experienced was largely due to excessive high speeds. Saw 77 mph a few glances of the dash. Any speed above 65 mph comprises range severely due to aerodynamic loads. From 55 to 70 mph calm winds, the air resistance increases power consumption 30% average. That’s a huge drain on batteries. The discussion tends to be: drive faster to destination to charge more electrons; drive 65 mph to destination to charge less electrons. Does the time balance out? Calculation of time/distance using the speed differences 65 vs 75 for a 180 mile run, could prove slower is better. 180/60=3 hours. Would 2:45 minutes at 65 mph make much difference? 70 mph? 25 minutes? Now enter the energy used and time/cost to recharge/speed of recharge. Newer EVs can recharge faster as this EV6 shoes, perhaps a bit slower in cold temperatures as the battery temp is not optimized prior to arrival at the charger. Question is: would driving at 65 -70 mph, cruise control, end up with a faster trip to the day’s destination? Did it matter to drive 8 hours vs 7:15? Was the cost higher driving faster? Lastly, a hotel with complementary L2 charger would have reduced charging time and money as well. Thanks for the report. Impressive EV.
I would like to know what they actually experienced for range in winter. Interstates here are 80mph so it's not out of the question to go as fast as they did in the video, though I would like to know that affect on the range. It is all still a mystery regarding Winter Mode as well: Why does Winter Mode reduce range when it should increase range bringing the battery up to a better temperature, for example?
AT THEIR AGE THEY DO NOT UNDERSTAND SUCH THINGS. Us that grew up during gas rationing and 55MPH speed limits do.
Speed limit wasn't back to 65MPH until 1996 FYI.
Yes, people going 55 in an 80mph speed limit(out west) is what causes accidents. Keep up with traffic and don't be a douche
I understand that over 70 mph will cause more drag and less mpg in an ICE but that seems quite poor to lose so much range
How to operate Tesla supercharger:
1 Open car charge port
2 Plug charge handle into car charge port
Car charges quickly
Just got my EV 6 first edition last Saturday for MSRP. Depending on how this goes I may get a Tesla in a year or two. Also, the promo code is active now as of 2/17/2022. Its for 1000 kw of free charging on electrify America. Got mine active.
Enjoyable Out of Spec Motoring road trip. Jordan is fun, engaging and his back and forth was Emad was great. Good to see what to expect with m e-tron GT when I road trip tomorrow.
Your ETRON GT will charge at least twice as fast with your DCFC set as a destination in the MMI navigation (vs these guys). Don’t use CarPlay for nav etc. Maybe that’s what their problem was.
@@radcardad I would probably use the Audi nav to make sure it preconditions but then use CarPlay on top of it 😅
@@vroooom I’ve done this with my Taycan and I’m not sure it works because the in car nav might actually get suspended when CarPlay navigation is running and then maybe the preconditioning as well. Don’t remember now but Audi and Porsche software are generally terrible. They should just make this a button like a thermostat and give you an ETA on when the battery is at optimal temperature. On my etron they didn’t even show battery temp so I wonder if they have it in the etron GT.
@@radcardad that’s a good point, maybe one GPS app overrides the other. My EV doesn’t even have route preconditioning yet so can’t test it!
I've learned more about ev's from this video that anyting else. Great insights about infrastructure/charging sites and real range and range anxiety. FANTASTIC! Thanks.
What an adventure.
Please give us some hard stats for the trip. Overall efficiency, cost, total time spent charging, avg speed, total charging cost, cents per mile driven, etc.
I always appreciate these videos. It's nice to see the EA network getting better. But driving my MYP across country in cold and hot. This video really stands out in showing what a lead on the charging network and experience Tesla has on all other options in the US.
Right up until you have to wait in line bc every brother and sister has a M3/Y
Great job guys. Jordan has been a great addition to the channel.
The “cold symbol” snowflake on the dash is not referring to the battery temperature. That’s the typical “it’s below 39 degrees” ice warning. You can turn it off in the vehicle settings.
Thanks for taking us on this trip! Lots of fun discovering the idiosyncrasies of the EV6 that can only be found during long multi day road trips. Really grew to love Jordan and Emad as the journey progressed, keep up the good work!
Used to take the route through Oklahoma on my way from Fort Worth, TX to Carthage, MO. You guys did better than me in my old ICE vehicle. I ran out of gas in McAlester and since that is home to the state penitentiary, there are signs warning motorists not to pick up hitchhikers. Fortunately, a couple picked me up and I was able to get gas for my old Mazda pickup.
I have watched a lot of UA-cam journeys with EV‘s and they are remarkably consistent. Every trip that is not a Tesla runs into the same issues: chargers that don’t work, not enough chargers, juggling apps and different payment methods, slow charging, broken chargers… Say what you will about their vehicles, build quality, etc it really does seem that only Tesla has solved the long journey charging system.
And it baffles me why anyone would buy anything but a Tesla. Like why???
Great first charging experience:
- App doesn't work
- Can't see shit on the display because of sun glare
- it's 32 cent per kWh
- It takes ages to start charging
- It is super slow
- Wrong metering on the second charging session
😂
.31 cents on ea is cheap
Portland ,Oregon supercharge $0,39
Still cheaper than the typical gas car. Right now with Putin’s escapades a lot cheaper, but charging process is way too complex except for Tesla.
Great video guys. This shows how we are a good 5-10 years away until doing road trips for the masses in EVs is feasible with families. Imagine having the wife and kids with you while fiddling around with different chargers waiting an hour or more in sketchy locations. This adds a huge amount of stress. Hopefully soon we will be able to charge in like 15 minutes. At that point I think most people would consider getting one.
i expect it to ramp up quicker than that, youd be suprised how quickly charging companies are expanding, and what about battery swap tech like what nio has? 5 minutes in and out battery swapped out, it also dispels fear of expensive battery replacement being a subscription service. Should be in North america in about 2-3 years
I can't wait to test drive this car, regardless of the charging infrastructure I like it. Great video.
Congrats on your bravery. I just can’t imagine buying a car sight unseen from across the country.
Saving $5000 will do that to you
I've done it before.
He test drove the car once he got there. If he noticed some glaring issue he could have easily backed out of the deal. Would only be down the cost of airplane tickets.
The constant monitoring/discussions of the charge speeds brings me back to the Napster days when I used to fuss about download speeds 😂
Just got back on a roadtrip in my Ioniq 5 rwd I bought a week ago, went from Raleigh to Boston and back, and had same charging issues in cold weather. Warm weather chraging cranked up to 240kw and held up there very long but cold still sucks till they come out with preconditioning.
I have the RWD model as well and unfortunately we may need an alternate solution to pre-heating the battery as the US models don't have the battery warming system in the RWD versions. It's only in the AWD versions of the Ioniq 5 in the US.
@@lanceareadbhar this can't be correct. Lithium batteries can't take a charge at all if temperatures are too low. I think you're referring to the heat pump? The cars still have resistive heaters.
Amazing road trip vlog! Those cold weather issues wouldn't be deal breakers for those of us in Southern California 😃
Gotta love it. REALLY love these long road trip videos! Keep it up!
Really great video guys. I usually don’t consume content this long on UA-cam, but I ended up really feeling like I was part of the trip with you - all the footage during the stops, in the convenience stores etc. made it a real experience of what a road trip for a non-Tesla EV owner is like. Question; I have a Mach E on order, but I really like the EV6 - just can’t find one that’s not way over MSRP. Part of why I like the EV6 is those faster DC fast charge speeds, but it seemed liked during your trip you were never charging faster than a speed the Mach E could do, right? So that > 160KW charge experience seems very rare? Thanks again for the video, really enjoyable.
Pretty sure it's all to do with the extreme cold temps they were dealing with. If the battery was at the optimal temperature, it would charge a lot faster. Just EV ownership life in the winter.
@@thaDARKW0LF non Tesla EV is harder on road trips as Tesla will warm battery on route to get fast charging in winter.
You guys should scope out hotels with chargers. Makes life much nicer especially on cold mornings.
You guys were hilarious. I loved watching this video. Thank you for the entertainment and EV insight on your drive.
Waiting for a car to charge on a long road trip would drive me nuts. With nothing to do other then eat, drink and bathroom. that is why I want a Hybrid.
I have been looking at getting an EV for my next vehicle and this video has helped me to be much more comfortable with one. I don't do a lot of trips, but seeing what you guys went through and everything has been really informative. I am now less worried about range and trips, I just want to make sure I get an EV with 250-300 miles to stay in my comfort zone
Great video guys!
This was one of the best episodes yet. Looking forward to more such cross country drives in EVs
This video was a nice combination of insights (first EV road trip, first EV6 road trip, first CCS road trip) and fun banter.
Watching this video makes it clear that one of the primary differences between Tesla and every other manufacturer is the charging experience. It’s so sad.
Look into ABRP ( A better Route Planner). It's like the Tesla route planner, but it works with a bunch of EVs. You put in your specific EV and when you put in a start/destination it plans all the stops, time needed to charge, and cost based on your specific car. It has the EV6 as an option. This is where Tesla still has the lead, as this is built into the car navigation system, and if you use it the car will condition the battery for the charges. But, ABR is a good alternative for non-Teslas.
For anyone who didn't understand the issue at the first charger Electrify America stations have 2 RFID readers. One is on the stall and is used for a phone to verify membership. The other is on the pay terminal and is for wireless tap to pay. If you tap your phone on the pay terminal it will attempt to charge the credit card attached rather than use the membership (and charge the $0.43/kW rate even if you have the paid membership).
The chemistry you both had just worked for this one. I would watch another with you both.
agree. more of these two and less of kyle. hes annoying.
Great video showing the ups/downs of a first time EV owner taking a road trip using a new car with infrastructure that is in its infancy. Good info along the way especially about Electrify America's naming of their chargers... that's something that needs to be changed. Cringed at Emad putting blue tape on his EV6, but understand the why. Seems like as of Feb 2022 that the infrastructure has a ways to go yet.
Didn't notice many "ups."
Fellow EV6 Wind owner and road tripper advice... Always pick a hotel that has chargers. I park and plug in at a hotel Level 2 charger and start my drive day with a full charge.
Thank you Guys for taking us on your EV trip! This trip gave us a live view of what we would experience on a long trip! The cold weather issue is very concerning with me. I do understand their is a software issue that will fix this issue! Time will tell! The Infrastructure for EVs outside of Tesla has to get better! The locations are not the best! I would find myself consistently looking at how many miles I have before I need to find a EV Charging Station! Then hoping it work, is it in a safe area! My drive as current would be very frustrating! Especially the cost of the car at the top price! I have a 2021 Hyundai Hybrid Sonata Blue it gets me 600 miles before my next fill up! It is 54 miles on the highway and 50 miles in the city per gallon of gas! I do love the Kia EV6! But not enough at this time! I will wait a few years to see how things turn out! But it will be a add on!
I love my Sonata!
I’m SO happy to see more and more choices of EVs and stoked that more people are adopting them. That said, I’m 1/3rd of the way into this video and I’m glad I chose a Tesla. The Supercharger network is (for now) still second to none. I know CCS is the standard for everyone else, but that connector is so friggin bulky and cumbersome.
I have a EV6 First Edition. It took me 24 hrs to drive from Detroit, MI to Macon, GA and 36 hrs to drive back on I 75. Most of the time was spent trying to find a charging station that worked and could charge in faster than 4 hrs.
NO....just no.
Great video. You two work well together.
While I like the looks of this car, the charging speed and the short winter range would be a problem. Watching this road trip makes me appreciate the range of my Model Y and the Tesla Supercharger network. Would not like the idea of having to pull into a remote corner of a Walmart in the middle of the night on the hope that the EA charge point is working.
Convenience store / gas station DCFC locations are the absolute best.
The Android Auto not being full screen is actually something i like in my Hyundai Santa Cruz - I use that side panel to display vehicle info ... radio/weather/etc. I find it far more useful than a widescreen map. I'm guessing you haven't found those options in the menus yet. There's a lot to dig through though. :)
This trip really points out one of the biggest issues holding back EVs for some people - the charging infrastructure. Until it's consistently fast, and the stations consistently WORK (which is disturbing, considering they're essentially all brand new-ish installations), range anxiety will remain real - because while you may know where the next charger is, you don't know if it will charge you when you get there. That's a huge issue. Also, what you've pointed out about the location of a lot of chargers. Half a mile across a Walmart parking lot with no real amenities for travelers isn't a great experience. Things are getting better, but not quite there yet for great EV road trips.
No hands out in this thumbnail… something sus. 🤚🏼🖐🏼
Thank goodness! That got old the second time I saw it.
Fun/pro tip for all:
Most newer EVs, this one included, have battery pre-conditioning. In order to use pre-conditioning, you need to navigate using the car's built-in navigation. Using Android Auto or Apple Car Play will not tell the car you're navigating to a charger and the car will not pre-condition the battery for fast charging.
This was probably already mentioned somewhere in the comments
Great video guys! As a Canadian, it makes me sad to see the performance in cold weather
This is common for all EVs, but many now have a battery warming system on your way to a charger and this was clearly overlooked in the first year model. At least you get a heat pump and battery warming system in the RWD model as that is not included in the US RWD versions.
Someone on another thread said that when it was below 0F in the upper midwest his tesla was getting like half the range it should while driving on the interstate. It is going to get ugly when there are 1000's of evs on the road in the years ahead. They'll have to be chargers everywhere.
Thanks for sharing the video. Hope that Emad enjoys his EV6!
That said, this video might also scare some people away from EV's in general, such as during your discussion with dealers doing high markups on them, and then having trouble at various EV charging stations, to mentioning that the EV6 doesn't even come with the EVSE (electric vehicle supply equipment) to charge at home with? It would suck for the first time EV buyer who didn't do their homework ahead of time to find out these problems.
If anything, this video shows how Tesla, love them or hate them, has done EV's right. Sure, you can't normally get discounts on them, but they also don't randomly mark it up ridiculously either. And almost every supercharger I've been to has always worked. If it didn't, there were often 4-8 other stalls you could try so you're not necessarily forced to find another charger. Tesla will usually get the broken ones working within a few days.
Even preconditioning the battery while enroute to a supercharger so that the battery is nice and toasty for a faster charging session are things they've taken into consideration. And in the event you do have to wait a while, there's also built-in entertainment options to pass the time.
I hope that other automakers are taking notes on how to make owning an EV better if they want people to buy them.
The video was honest and MUCH appreciated. My model y performance should arrive May or June and this video together with comments encouraged me to forget about cancelling the order and buying EV6 or Ionic5 or Leaf.
@@d-man6509 I fell in love with this Kia earlier today, but after seeing this video I will wait for a 480 hp Tesla.
Thanks for this video. That non Supercharger infrastructure reinforces my correct decision to buy Tesla. My son has had his model 3 for 4 years now. You just pull in, plug in and it charges. Zero hassle!
Not only that, you can also use a "Tesla" charging station with an adapter. 👍
How much did the trip cost?
@@kenrdavis2266 Not counting all the extra charges and holds on his credit card? Ha ha haaa, that would piss me off so bad. Just No.
Kudos to you on that 1000 mile trip! Careful planning kept you out of trouble while giving you a chance to explore the car in challenging circumstances. That was enlightening and another reason not to get an EV just yet unless you are a hardy early adopter.
I agree if you are going to use it for long trips only, but for commuting to work and around town and charging at home is a no brainer.
Oh if i heard right, its a Wind? I'm looking into the Wind AWD and this video is definitely selling this car to me.
The best part of the EV6 is the 18 min charge time from 10-80%. I do 99% of my driving in town but have taken a few 100-220 mile road trips without issue. (Proper planning)
Thanks for such an honest review, warts and all. I respect all these early adopters who have taken the big step and purchased EVs. I just might have to wait a while till the speed and process of charging these vehicles becomes faster and simpler
My next car will be EV.
I've been test driving every new EV I could: EV6, ionic 5, Mache, EQS, Etron Sportback, ID4, Kona, Niro, Tesla S, X, 3 and Y...
I'm a big guy and need a lot of space. I demand heated/cooled seats, panoramic roof and some form of automated driving.
The only EV I've driven thus far that I can consider are the EV6, Mache and Etron Sportback.
Fortunately, more choices are coming - I'm not sold on any of the current models.
Dodge/Chrysler may come to the table strong and I will wait to see what they do.
Likewise. My next car will be an EV.
Either a Tesla or Toyota.
Non tesla charging sucks. Why would you not get the Y?
Thank you for the great video. I really wasn't planning to spend 96 minutes watching this but it was very informative and entertaining. As someone who lives in Wisconsin, the lack of battery preconditioning and the lack of route adjusting to a charge station are both problematic. I saw on a forum that both are supposedly coming as software updates but I think I'll hold off until that's established as fact. I rented a Model 3 in AZ and those features were extremely handy and I liked that I didn't need to fumble with an app like you need to with the EA charge stations. I think the EV6 looks so much better though.
Just purchased mine and in the EV settings, it does have "winter mode" to precondition the battery. I am also in WI, so will be curious on winter range.
Ok, so this doesn't qualify as an official "Out of Spec" range test, but it was very entertaining! Good job, Jordan.
Quick tip: the best way to activate the EA chargers is by adding your account to your Apple wallet or google pay wallet. Then you can just tap you phone and charge. Using the app leaves a lot more room for error as the phone has to log in, connect to the network, and send the charger your info. Lots of this places don’t have great cell service leaving you stranded or waiting a long time to connect.
Another quick tip: driving 75 mph will take a hit to your range. The best speed for the most range for EVs is around 65 mph.
android auto actually works as a split screen. you can use it to show another thing but since you havent activated it, it just show an arrow with android auto written. that is why it is not full screen
Let's be clear, the Highlight of this video is @ 28:54 "We've literally been iced, get it" Big Smile! Great Fun and Informative Videos!
Almost the best part of this video is the presenters aren’t constantly touching their eye glasses (and face for that matter).
Thank You !
P.S. Maybe the main guy has gone into Walmart or any one of a thousand other places for two minutes and gotten his eyeglasses adjusted……finally.
I didn’t read all the replies to see if this is mentioned, but many of the EA stations I’ve been to more recently have stickers added to them to show what the station number is. Having it on top of the station isn’t very intuitive, and I think they realized that. Also, I don’t think the battery preconditioning works unless you use the built in navigation to navigate to the charger.
I think my personal take-away from my time with electric vehicles (almost 4 years now) is that yes, an ICE vehicle is more convenient for longer trips where you have to recharge between destinations or for longer distance towing, but an electric vehicle is more convenient and generally more fun in almost any other daily driving circumstance. The convenience gap between ICE and electric vehicles on long trips has substantially narrowed over the past 4 years to the point that a road trip in my Model 3 is not really an inconvenience at all. The time between charging stops is about as long as the time between restroom stops.
But that (your last sentence) doesn't address the issue with broken charging stations, that can also lead to queues at the working ones, and it doesn't address the fact that it can take 5-15 minutes to get one station pump operating properly... Add in bringing a family along on road trips, and patience starts to get thin really really fast in your car's cabin...
Jordan must be rich if $5,000 "isn't the worst markup". No markup no way.
We have an ev6 GT line. It’s beautiful and we have interior lighting lol. We paid 2500 over MSRP in Las Vegas. Btw I love the purse cubby
Thanks for the video guys, nice job! We have two EVs, but we have a PHEV for road trips. I was hoping when I saw that the Ioniq 5/ EV6 had over 200kwh charging speed that it might be acceptable for road trips. Apparently not in the winter. When I am on a road trip, I don't want to have to keep stopping every 2-3 hours and then wait to charge. Traveling from Wal-Mart to Wal-Mart is not my idea of any enjoyable road trip.
Totally agree. I also have a phev and just got our 2nd ev. For long road trips i love the convenience for the phev. With the hassles of kids and lack of time, the ev charging process is just too much of an inconvenience.
You'd only be in Walmart while you charge
You should be stopping every 2hrs for a safety break
You sir must have a bladder of steel.
Ha ha! I agree about the chargers in Walmart parking lots.
Francis network is pretty bad. I live in Oklahoma. They're pretty much always down. I hope you left reviews on plug share to warn other EV drivers. Also, there's no consistency in Francis equipment. So many different models and power levels. You never know what you're going to get when you pull up unless you Read the fine print in the app.
some cool background music on this... nice. and i'm shocked i made it through 96 minutes. you guys have a great attitude, and amazing patience with all those lame chargers.
one thing keeping me from going on an EV roadtrip is being relegated to the most hellishly dull parts of the country such as walmart parking lots and highway hotels with EV chargers.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
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It was so much fun watching this, period. He showed what dozens EV videos didn't show, price paid for the charging. Subscribed!
Finally, GOT MY new 2022 KIA EV6 Wind, wish it had the Tech package though. I live in Colorado and feel like I am the only one in Colorado to own the first EV6❣️😍🤘🏽
Would love to roadtrip with you guys one of these days since you are locals in Colorado. Hit me up!
Really Enjoyed the video. Definitely try to get a tour of weather tech, they probably have 10 plus buildings there now. Why didn’t you stop at a hotel that had charging or at least plug into a 110? As Road trippers we always try to plug in at night and I’d like to see how this would do with whatever is available. Great video again
This feels like a 90-minute infomercial for the Supercharger network. I love the EV6 but the Tesla SC infrastructure is years ahead
We have brownouts in Calif. with very few electrics. No power plants have been made in 40 years ! Our infrastructure would NOT handle millions of these.
That’s crazy that you guys are missing out on charging speed like that. Kia/Hyundai need to fix those preheating issues ASAP.
This also further reinforces my view that the dealers should help you setup charging and we need Auto-Charge or Plug and Charge with roaming. You should be able to setup all the payments there and be ready to go once you drive off the lot.
With my Model 3, I had supercharging setup right out the gate and my car preconditioned before my first supercharge automatically. I saw 220kW on that first charge and all I had to do was plug in.
All the other automakers should make that experience their goal for new EV drivers. Setup the accounts with Plug and Charge or Autocharge with EA and all the other networks with roaming for small networks like Francis right from the get go.
I also don’t get why charging providers seem to use the worst credit card readers known to man. Come on guys, get that fixed!
I 100% agree. I was the owner of this ev6 in this video. The clueless nature of dealers and these cars is amazing. Kia did a terrible job launching this properly. The lack of training and understanding of infrastructure is unbelievable. Also, I've decided that Tesla is the iphone of the EV world. Everything just works, it's super cohesive, and it's user friendly. I'm an android user, and all other EVs remind me of the fragmented world known as Android
@@Emadifications Thanks for letting the out of spec guys make videos with your car! If you end up using Francis again, I recommend ordering an RFID card from them before you go with the app. When I use my RFID, the stations usually work even if the screen on the charger is weird and I can see charge status in their app when I activate them that way.
This stuff shouldn’t be required but if you want it to work well you’ve got to play their weird games. Even through I own a Tesla, there are way more Francis chargers here in Oklahoma than Superchargers so it was worth it to me to get the stuff to use their network (Chademo adapter and RFID). I’d also recommend getting a Chargepoint RFID too. There’s quite a few of those around and it helps for other networks it roams on too like EV-Go.
If you know what your doing it is no big deal. Mach e has plug and charge. I’d 4 will have it . But you are spoiled. Tesla only had to make there network work with a model s Ea has to work with a lot of models. New users making a video make it look harder than it is.
Allready working on the pre conditioning issue. But every EV is could gating. Topspeed needs 3 arguments . 1= warm battery 2= low state of charge ( under 20% and 10 even better 3= charger speed
GM has announced thousands of superchargers to be installed nationwide in rural locations.
Thanks for doing this! I live in WI and might do a trip to Dallas, so this is helpful. I know the charging will get much better in the next couple of years. As previous posters have said, I would plan to go about halfway each day and would get a hotel with a charger. That way you have at least 200 miles before you would need to stop each day.
Thank you for taking the time to put this review together. However one note - the reason why Emad was able to get this vehicle without a preorder is because what he picked up is the entry level Wind, without the heat pump.
Given you folks were out in the cold - this is only somewhat of an accurate range test. What would be great is also doing this with an EV6 equipped with a heat pump.
It does have the heat pump because it's stated that it's the AWD version
@AAG Light rwd is the entry level next is Wind rwd then Wind awd. I thought Emad said he purchased Wind awd which is the winter mode / heat pump that looks not to be too efficient but that would be the winter mode because it's not on the Wind rwd.
Would be nice for a quick recap at the end of the video for how many times did you stop to charge and how much did those stops cost you. Overall, how much did charging alone cost for your trip?
Yep, no details. Are we saving any money here, guys? Certainly not with those silly 'hold" charges and incorrect charges on your credit card.
I drive a Model 3 but I love the looks of all the Kia EVs.
Not having trash cans at the charging stations was by design for obvious reasons.
Well I'm glad continental European winter weather is not as harsh as what you got in the Midwest. This is Trashing battery charging capacity...
Absolutely killer work on the editing of the whole video guys. I happily subscribed :)
Next time you are at an EA charger. Try using the app first to activate the specific charger and then plug in. You will find that works even quicker.
An added tip, if you're using Carplay or Android Auto you can initiate the charge from your car's screen before getting out to plug in.
🇺🇸 I want one. JUST NOT ON TRIPS OVER 300 MILES. WHAT A PAIN.
I drove by several Teslas in the heat , their windows were open , I guess because battery drains fast. My 2002 hatch 5-manual was purring along with ice-cold air on.
Kinda surprised you guys didn't know this, but if you open electrify america app in the car on android auto, you can select your charger and swipe to start the charge, then you just have to get out and plug in. Works great when its cold out and you don't even have to unplug your phone.
We figured it out at a stop the next day about halfway through the video. In fairness EA doesn’t make it obvious that the charger is the last part of the ID at the top
Very helpful to see that EVs are not yet ready for road trips. Could not deal with the range anxiety, the hassle or the long charge times vs ICE cars. Think it's coming with better batteries, more charge stations and faster charging but we're not there yet.
Well ... if you browser through the comments, you'll see that Tesla is already there.
Fascinating to see the struggle with knowing stall number - I just know this inherently, but it's really not clear at all.
Early on I put the cord number in instead of charger number and realized I was paying for a guy at the other charger. Figured it out and nice guy at the other one (also new ev owner) was cool with me cutting him off.
This was a great vid. I also think Jordan did super well. The EV6 looks great and I love the interior, but after watching this vid I feel the vehicle does not quite live up to the looks. Obviously the battery range is a problem and did you ever figure out what the heck was up with that sensor issue when you were behind a truck at the red light? All in all, really enjoyed watching you and Emad behind the wheel in this road trip and look forward to seeing more.
Nicer interior than the Ionic5. I think Kia knocked it out of the park. I’m a Toyota/Subaru loyalist and not sure their product will compare on many fronts. Thanks for this video!
I'm an Ioniq 5 driver coming from a long history with Toyota/Subaru. The BZ4X/Solterra looks so disappointing. They should be capable of so much more.
“You could spend 80, 90 $100,000 on a car and you’re spending time in a Walmart” 😂 Great video.
I've seen Bentleys in the Walmart parking lot. I guess that's how they got rich...always low prices!
@@jghall00 - not a knock on Walmart. I just thought it was a funny comment and an interesting observation about the EV charging infrastructure. :)
I would suggest using the app to charge instead of the tap to pay at EA. They charge an additional $50 each a charge is initiated. Granted it comes off after a few days but it was quite surprising when it happened to me.
If you have a iPhone all you need to do is tap rfid symbol I have my membership card in apple wallet. And I use Face ID to sign into app. It starts up no swiping and I don’t need a credit card. Before rode trip you need to sign up and learn from someone how to use it. I have zero problems but in the winter you won’t get great speeds. And .31 cent kWh is great compared to per minute. Especially if it charges slow. Ev go charges 39 cents per minute.
@@markfitzpatrick6692 lol evGo in Calhoun, GA was over 50 cents and SLOW. I hate them
Thank you for the video. Very informative and extensive real time driving this EV. This is one of the EVs I am considering but still researching the plus and minuses.
There will be fights and shootings over the use of limited chargers. Some guy on here had to wait over an hour to use a charger , time is MONEY.
He said “it’s shorter than I thought”!!!!!????? What? This car is enormous when seen in person.
Just FYI, highly recommend getting a physical card for EA and all the other charging stations. Better and faster than having to whip out the phone to get a charging session going.
Apple wallet card works flawlessly.