This was the first time we ever owned and EV and we decided to go on a road trip the day after picking it up. It was quite the adventure. We ran into a few complications on this road trip, but we didn't run out of range. The DC Fast Charging network is not sufficient on a road trip due to broken chargers and a lot of demand, especially in areas where there are few fast chargers. If you own an EV, what would you do differently?
Return it lol I did drive a Tesla for some time and I’m glad I no longer do. The first road trip to Virginia Beach changed my mind quickly and the 95 traffic incident where they were able to bring gas to cars but ev cars had to be towed to charging stations
Early Tesla owners would use RV rest stops or camp grounds to charge. This was long before the currently established Supercharger network or Electrify America. EV ownership is a lifestyle change that most people don’t realize until they are owners.
I've driven quite a few road tripping miles via CCS, here's my tips: 1. Only charge up to the percentage you need to get you to your next destination. If you charged up to 100% and are rolling in to the next charging station with 130 miles and 37% left in the tank, you can probably go a little further or you could have saved yourself 25 minutes of charging at your previous stop by quitting charging at 80%. Use A Better Route Planner (ABRP) to help figure out where you need to charge to. 2. Avoid charging in major metro areas (urban and suburban) when you can. Prioritize rural interstate charging stations. Most of these are less populated, and you'll have a shorter wait. 3. If you want to shorten your stops, eat and use the restroom while you charge. 4. Use Preconditioning if you have the AWD and can do so. If your battery is nice and toasty, you will consistently hit 200+ kW charging rates.
You stopped way more than you needed to. Also, as the battery approaches 80%, you're not going to see more than 175 KW. Charging curve performance. Maximize your trips by using most of the battery, then ride the curve! You'll be out in 15 minutes and drive farther!
@@DeMarcusFitz I agree. After our stop in Gainesville however, I didn't want to risk extending the time between charging. I will feel more confident when Superchargers are available for Hyundai
Charging is still one thing that Tesla excels at, its plug and charge infrastructure is like none other; now, I wouldn't get a Tesla because of _that guy_ though.
As you stated, when charging at home, it is an excellent and cheap daily driver 👍 On longer trips one could reduce charging times by planning a bit more and arriving at charging stations with a lower State of Charge to increase the charging power. As you know, the higher the SoC the slower the charging speed. Also one can eat and use the facilities while charging and, thus, basically loose very little time if any. Great, realistic video on your experience, thanks 👍 PS. If you could add km next to the miles especially on written summaries that would be highly appreciated by Canadians, Europeans etc. 😉
A few questions: 1. Was regenerative braking engaged? 2. Were you averaging 80 MPH when driving on the highway? 3. Do you have plans to tint the windows? I'm considering the Ioniq 5 and I was glad to see the display can show cars surrounding you.
Yes, I had regen braking engaged. Level 0 will not engage regen and the car will feel like it's coasting away on me. So I prefer Level 1 or 2 on the highway. I was averaging under 80 MPH. I plan to tint the windows to the legal limit in my state.
43:16 - if you’d have joined the Electrify America plan for $4 for the month, and used exclusively Electrify America, that $171 for energy would have been $128 or so ($132 with the $4 membership fee). Still cheaper than the Subie.
Here in Europe, too, the charging situation is still in need of improvement. In every country there are areas with excellent coverage and others that resemble a desert. The functionality of individual charging points is also sometimes poor. Nevertheless, in six years of e-mobility I have never broken down, even on 1000 km trips, and I don't know anyone who has. So you definitely don't need any special pioneering spirit to counter range anxiety. What's worse is the continuing resistance of the ICE lobby and its political vassals to the expansion of the e-infrastructure. Here in Europe, especially in Germany. That's pathetic, when everyone now knows who the future belongs to. Have fun with the EV6!
Great looking car. The waiting would get old for me but that will change over time as they add new chargers. I should have told you about the Publix subs. I’m sure you already know about it.
Always remember your correct units. :) Should only ever charge to 100% when absolutely necessary, the car you have is one of the fastest charging cars gets 10-80% in 18min which is accurate and tested by many. Should arrive at 10% or close to so you get fastest charge rate. Out of Spec with Kyle is a great resource as is State of Charge(Tom) on UA-cam for knowledge plus many others such as the Mach-e Vlog with Pat & Liv and of course Ioniq Guy. Don't ever depend on EA either exclusively, once the Supercharging network opens up for Hyundai and other manufacturers EA could be just cobwebs unless they change their hardware to reliable hardware. The Ioniq 6 is a very good car, congrats on your purchase. I'd avoid 100%, unlike what you seem to be doing on this trip, though and charger hop as Kyle has shown is faster as you only charge enough to get to the next charger and arrive with 10-20% closer to 10% though as much as you can.
I appreciate the advice. Our intentions were to stick to 80% charge but with the experiences we had in FL, it scared us enough to wait longer for the 100% if no one was waiting for a charger. That helped boost our confidence. If we had to do another road trip, we would do so much better using the apps to see if chargers were available and be more comfortable with the 80% top up at those chargers. Lessons learned. Since we've brought the car home, we have exclusively charged at home since the vehicle is primarily used for commuting and other local drives. We've been thrilled with the car. It rides like a Bentley.
43:45 - After owning the 6 for now 3 months, I can attest to those range numbers. On my SEL RWD is realistically 290 vs the advertised 320 miles per charge. The key for hwy driving is to shut off the regen (keep it at lvl 0) and maintain speed under 65 mph. The HDA feature in the 6 is an amazing tool to use for efficient hwy driving. Also those $ figures are moot because every new 6 owner gets 2 years of free charging at EA. In 30 min you can go 30 to 80% on just a 150 kWh charging station. The free charging is a screaming good deal with this car. I only charge at home to top off from 80 to 100 if I have to make any big trips.
Thanks for the reply. I'll have to give Lvl 0 a try on the next jaunt. I met a few folks at the EA chargers that had the free charging. We didn't because it was used and they were wondering why we would do that. Our purpose is different (commuting) so we saved a bunch over MSRP.
These cars are being HEAVILY discounted by Hyundai, and you can grt lease deals for $200/month. Also, many dealers will forgive up to 10,000 miles overage on the lease if you buy/lease from them again. This particular EV can be almost free to own, seriously. Especially with insane Colorado State/Utility incentives totalling over $25k
@@joer4367 See for yourself - Drive the 6 at 75 on a hwy starting at lvl 3, then tick down to 0. It's like a handbrake has been released on the car. If you're on a steep downhill at a steady 65 or 75, I've been told to have the regen on so you get some recharge. Not much, but some. Bottom line is on straight flat fwy and speed is steady at 65+, no point in having the regen on - doesn't buy you anything. Except flashing rear taillights each time you take your foot off the accelerator. Don't be that guy on the hwy. 🤦♂
Thanks for the video. That's an interesting experience and unfortunately too common. The supercharger network really makes these others look poor, so I'm very glad it's opening up over the next couple of years. One quick tip, if the spacing of the chargers allows for it, I would suggest you try to get down closer to 10% or so before you stop. Even though this is a fast charging car, your overall time spent on the road will go down doing it that way. I completely understand wanting some buffer when you're learning a new process though. Safe travels!
@@brunogiffard7856 we have been using the car daily and charging from home and it's been awesome. Not sure when we will do another road trip with it. But we would definitely use superchargers when they are available to the Hyundai. That will make a huge difference
Nice. Welcome to the EV community. That car should come with 2-3 years free 30 minutes sessions on Electrified America. That’s more than enough to charge that car. There are other charging options on the road besides EA. You definitely have to plan accordingly. Once you figure out the limitations and how to use the car. They are a blast. Plus it’s a different community. The EV veterans are so helpful and they are always willing to help. On road trips I charge to 80% only. Because these style cars charge so fast to 80%. I have the Electrified G80.
Thank you. Since this is a used car, we don't get the free EA charging. We planned on only charging to 80 until our fiasco in Gainesville. That made us decide to spend the extra time topping off. We didn't mind that since it gave us breathing room. We will primarily be using it for a 1.5 hour commute and charge from home.
@@PatsGarageOnline oh ok. I’ve always said a car must have a purpose. If it get you access to that lane so your not stuck in that traffic up there then it’s worth the price of admission in my humbled opinion. I travel FL-NY lanes as well. Hope she enjoys the experience.
Pat! Great video and testimonial of what a long distance trip would entail in an electric car (at this time). When you said that you do 'a lot of traveling' and 'out west', the FIRST thing I thought of (from your 2010 trip to Montana) was 'South Dakota' and then you said it and mentioned I-90! (I was thinking of the Corn Palace stop you made) My boss has a 2024 Lyriq. The range at 100% is 370 miles (not bad). He loves it for around the town driving (like Alana) as you mentioned at the end of the video. I would hope they could extend the range up to 500 miles on these cars!! Hopefully someday.
Hey Bob! Yep, you're right about my thoughts about driving out west for sure! After charging at the house, and the slower speeds, she can get between 300-350 miles of range, currently. That's with optimum temperature around 60-70 degrees. So it's performing well.
I'm planning to do a road trip next summer with an Ioniq 6. It's too bad your dealer didn't set you up with the free 2 year Electrify America charging plan, which my Ioniq 6 had. So my trip next year will cost me $0.
I can smell the constant range anxiety from here. The main issue isn't running out, it's the hassle of finding a free and working charge outlet. It's a total lottery.
Also: RWD will gain another 40 miles versus AWD. That's why I chose the SE RWD: 361 miles versus 270 miles. Along with watching the speed, can easily average 4.4 miles per kwh.
It’s unfortunate how the terrible CCS charging network just ruins first EV impressions. I have a Model Y and regularly run from Tampa to South Carolina without issue only adding about 20 min to our gas car time. We’re about to make our second run to North Dakota. Clearly we don’t find it too bad. Having to que up to charge would be massively irritating. Plug Share is a good info source. In general, only charge enough to get to the next charger. Above 80%, charge rate slows dramatically on any EV. You'll make better time by charge hoping and not charging above 80% unless really necessary. There is only one stretch on the way to ND that requires me to charge to 100%. Usually it’s about 70% per stop and about 15 min hooked up. This method only works if there are plenty of charge stops. Also, when you get access to the Tesla network realize that most, but not all stations are available for non teslas. I don’t know how pricing will work for non Tesla charging, but for your route the most expensive rate I can find is $.38 per KwH. So it should be cheaper. Charging at home is the magic. Cheers.
I wish we had the ability to charge at Tesla superchargers. We would not have had the anxiety we had after Gainesville. That queue caused us to want to push past 80pct in case we got backed up at future DC Chargers. We only plan to charge at home and use it locally, so the inconveniences we had aren't significant enough to give us a bad EV experience. Infrastructure just needs improvement.
Hyundai ioniq 6 gets free 30 minutes of free charging at electrify America stations. I have 12 months left on my ioniq 6 limited 2023. I live in Florida and usually find that 1 or 2 chargers not working and at times long lines at the electrify America stations. I use the app to see what’s available prior to going to the charger. Tesla is still the leader with their charging network and they have a dozen or more chargers verses 4 to 6 chargers at electrify America stations. So when my free charging is expired I will not be using the electrify America network. I will be using Tesla network plus I now see Costco starting to install chargers which are way cheaper than EA network.
Thanks for confirming what we experienced in FL. We have since learned to use the app to make decisions. Since this was a used vehicle, we didn't get the free charging. But we primarily charge at home and use it for commuting and short trips so we haven't had to charge on the road since then. We put 6k miles on the car and love it. Rides like a Bentley!
yeah if your around states that have high electricity prices then of course. East coast will be more expensive. Other states def way cheaper then gas. Also prices of gas in the East coast especially Maryland change a lot and usually going up.
Interesting video... I am glad you wrapped it up with the analysis you presented because I came to the same conclusion. I recently looked at buying a Hyundai Ionic 5 but decided against it because of the .56 per kwh public fast-chargers. When I did the math; it was clear that these were more expensive than gas if you are rely on the public fast-chargers and since I am in the Tampa Florida area where public fast-chargers are not plentiful its not even convenient. I ended up buying a 2024 Hyundai Tuscon N-Line Hybrid that is rated for 37mpg on the highway. I already have a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Limited that gets 50 mpg on the highway and both of them have the Highway Driving Assist that makes my drives between Tampa and the DC area a breeze. If I am in the position to setup a Home Charger in the future; I would probably consider a Hyundai EV for a keep in Florida car and use the Hybrid as my long road trip car.
After spending time in FL trying to fast charge, I can see why it would be difficult to own this kind of car there. The original owner was from Plant City and I'm not sure why they sold it, but if they expected to be able to use a good fast charging network there, I can see why they might have wanted to sell. Here in the DC Metro area, chargers are abundant and that means we can have some that are broken and not really impact people a ton. I hope to try out the Tesla Supercharger network when that becomes available. I am very impressed with Hyundai offerings and can see why you enjoy the two you have. They do make a long drive incredibly comfortable.
So picking the vehicle up in Florida did you have to pay tax twice once in Florida and then again in Maryland what are the seats like you're not for that long journey I like the color looks really good
@@sirgardensalot tax is only paid to the state where it is registered. Some states require that you pay the state of origin if you buy the car in that state and then pay your states registration. That was not the case with this car. The seats were super comfortable for this drive. We had no fatigue. After owning it for several months we believe it feels like driving a luxury car (think Bentley) but you're clearly not paying for that level of luxury vehicle. Hyundai did a super great job with this car. We drive it everywhere within the 300mi range we get on it, charging at home.
The lack of reliable infrastructure is what keeps me interested in an M3. Finding a working charger in many states can be a challenge. It's like when they go down they just leave them broken. Makes ZERO sense.
@@30smsuperstrat it's free to me because I can either pay cash for everything, or I can use my credit card and pay it off every month with no interest due and get points as a reward. So the points are free to me using this method.
Your car Max chatges at 245kw on a good session, change the max charge level so it will accurately reflect how long it will take to go. Also drive until you hit a low state of charge. Why weren't you using the free charging?
It was a used car so there is no free charging. It only had 4k miles so it was as new when we bought it. But ,we did save 13k over a new one and plan to only charge it at home as it's a commuter car for Alana.
Yes, for long multi-state driving, hybrids make more sense. However, once they got home (Maryland), pretty much all their driving is within the driving range, so no more detours to gas stations. Just 10 seconds to plug in at home at the end of the day, and 10 seconds to unplug the next morning.
Ev road trip planning means you need to plan to arrive with lowest state of charge ideally around 10% so you can charge longer at top speeds. Plugging at 65% is bad you will get slower speeds as the battery is full. Ioniq 6 has max speed around 220kW. This is what you will get at the best even if you are plugged into 500kW labeled charger. Higher the state of charge gets lower the charging speed gets. Regarding your EV road trip conclusion, try it with Tesla Model 3 and it will change your mind. In terms of better efficiency but more importantly using Tesla Superchargers. Fast, reliable and always available. You arrive plug in and before you reach your phone the car is charging already. No need for credit cards or apps. Btw I drive Kia Niro EV. So I have to deal with the same issues on road trips. The truth is Tesla is the king for road trips in EV
We wish we could have done that. At some of these chargers, we couldn't get the app to actually work with the charger. After several attempts we needed to use a credit card. Some worked well, others did not.
Wow $.56 per kWh is really expensive!!! Here in Canada, where regular gas costs about $US 6.00 per gallon, filling up at a 150kW or 350kW fast charger costs $US.21 per kWh. So an EV is WAY cheaper to run than a gasoline powered car in this Country.
Actually, with sales tax, it came to $.595 per kwh. But home charging is much cheaper. Here in Irmo SC, I pay $.068 per kwh, as opposed to $3/gallon gasoline.
We weren't too happy about Tesla charging extra for features like self-driving that were standard on the Hyundai Limited. There is also a monopoly and control on parts and body panels from Tesla that prevent us from doing our own repairs if we chose to. Outside of that, I've never driven a Model 3 even tho I would have liked to also check it out before we decided on the Ioniq 6 Limited.
They do have their purpose and with a solid charging network, I see them doing well for road trips in the future. But they are compact or luxury quality. When it comes to hauling long term, I'd choose a Diesel.
@@hallcero We tried a wireless dongle for car play but weren't happy with it. It sometimes didn't connect so we had to spend time troubleshooting it which took longer than plugging it in. So if you want wireless you won't be happy with this car. I don't mind spending 2 seconds plugging in.
@@PatsGarageOnline Well, that was the reason I didn't buy it. Most cars connect iPhones without a cable. It's a car made for Android users. I bought a BMW
Not in a Tesla. Not putting down other EVs, but road tripping in a Tesla in a non issue. I made a 5000 mile trip last year, and just came back from another 1000+ mile trip last month and they were easy charging with the Superchanging network.
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This was the first time we ever owned and EV and we decided to go on a road trip the day after picking it up. It was quite the adventure. We ran into a few complications on this road trip, but we didn't run out of range. The DC Fast Charging network is not sufficient on a road trip due to broken chargers and a lot of demand, especially in areas where there are few fast chargers. If you own an EV, what would you do differently?
Return it lol I did drive a Tesla for some time and I’m glad I no longer do. The first road trip to Virginia Beach changed my mind quickly and the 95 traffic incident where they were able to bring gas to cars but ev cars had to be towed to charging stations
Early Tesla owners would use RV rest stops or camp grounds to charge. This was long before the currently established Supercharger network or Electrify America. EV ownership is a lifestyle change that most people don’t realize until they are owners.
I've driven quite a few road tripping miles via CCS, here's my tips:
1. Only charge up to the percentage you need to get you to your next destination. If you charged up to 100% and are rolling in to the next charging station with 130 miles and 37% left in the tank, you can probably go a little further or you could have saved yourself 25 minutes of charging at your previous stop by quitting charging at 80%. Use A Better Route Planner (ABRP) to help figure out where you need to charge to.
2. Avoid charging in major metro areas (urban and suburban) when you can. Prioritize rural interstate charging stations. Most of these are less populated, and you'll have a shorter wait.
3. If you want to shorten your stops, eat and use the restroom while you charge.
4. Use Preconditioning if you have the AWD and can do so. If your battery is nice and toasty, you will consistently hit 200+ kW charging rates.
Run the battery down lower, near 10% and charge up to 50%, so you can use the fast end of your charging spectrum. Use A Better Route Planner!
I charged my ID 4 at that Bucee’s back in March. The CCS charger is on the opposite side of the building. Nice video and thanks for sharing.
You stopped way more than you needed to. Also, as the battery approaches 80%, you're not going to see more than 175 KW. Charging curve performance. Maximize your trips by using most of the battery, then ride the curve! You'll be out in 15 minutes and drive farther!
@@DeMarcusFitz I agree. After our stop in Gainesville however, I didn't want to risk extending the time between charging. I will feel more confident when Superchargers are available for Hyundai
Charging is still one thing that Tesla excels at, its plug and charge infrastructure is like none other; now, I wouldn't get a Tesla because of _that guy_ though.
As you stated, when charging at home, it is an excellent and cheap daily driver 👍 On longer trips one could reduce charging times by planning a bit more and arriving at charging stations with a lower State of Charge to increase the charging power. As you know, the higher the SoC the slower the charging speed. Also one can eat and use the facilities while charging and, thus, basically loose very little time if any.
Great, realistic video on your experience, thanks 👍
PS. If you could add km next to the miles especially on written summaries that would be highly appreciated by Canadians, Europeans etc. 😉
Hyundai offers 2 years free DC fast charging with Electrify America on all new models now....Basically this thing is free to operate now..
Happy belated birthday, Pat!!
Thank you!
A few questions:
1. Was regenerative braking engaged?
2. Were you averaging 80 MPH when driving on the highway?
3. Do you have plans to tint the windows?
I'm considering the Ioniq 5 and I was glad to see the display can show cars surrounding you.
Yes, I had regen braking engaged. Level 0 will not engage regen and the car will feel like it's coasting away on me. So I prefer Level 1 or 2 on the highway. I was averaging under 80 MPH. I plan to tint the windows to the legal limit in my state.
43:16 - if you’d have joined the Electrify America plan for $4 for the month, and used exclusively Electrify America, that $171 for energy would have been $128 or so ($132 with the $4 membership fee). Still cheaper than the Subie.
Here in Europe, too, the charging situation is still in need of improvement. In every country there are areas with excellent coverage and others that resemble a desert. The functionality of individual charging points is also sometimes poor. Nevertheless, in six years of e-mobility I have never broken down, even on 1000 km trips, and I don't know anyone who has. So you definitely don't need any special pioneering spirit to counter range anxiety.
What's worse is the continuing resistance of the ICE lobby and its political vassals to the expansion of the e-infrastructure. Here in Europe, especially in Germany. That's pathetic, when everyone now knows who the future belongs to.
Have fun with the EV6!
Great looking car. The waiting would get old for me but that will change over time as they add new chargers. I should have told you about the Publix subs. I’m sure you already know about it.
Alana is a huge Pub Sub fan so we can't pass a Publix without stopping 😂
@@PatsGarageOnline nice!!!
Always remember your correct units. :) Should only ever charge to 100% when absolutely necessary, the car you have is one of the fastest charging cars gets 10-80% in 18min which is accurate and tested by many. Should arrive at 10% or close to so you get fastest charge rate. Out of Spec with Kyle is a great resource as is State of Charge(Tom) on UA-cam for knowledge plus many others such as the Mach-e Vlog with Pat & Liv and of course Ioniq Guy. Don't ever depend on EA either exclusively, once the Supercharging network opens up for Hyundai and other manufacturers EA could be just cobwebs unless they change their hardware to reliable hardware. The Ioniq 6 is a very good car, congrats on your purchase. I'd avoid 100%, unlike what you seem to be doing on this trip, though and charger hop as Kyle has shown is faster as you only charge enough to get to the next charger and arrive with 10-20% closer to 10% though as much as you can.
I appreciate the advice. Our intentions were to stick to 80% charge but with the experiences we had in FL, it scared us enough to wait longer for the 100% if no one was waiting for a charger. That helped boost our confidence. If we had to do another road trip, we would do so much better using the apps to see if chargers were available and be more comfortable with the 80% top up at those chargers. Lessons learned. Since we've brought the car home, we have exclusively charged at home since the vehicle is primarily used for commuting and other local drives. We've been thrilled with the car. It rides like a Bentley.
43:45 - After owning the 6 for now 3 months, I can attest to those range numbers. On my SEL RWD is realistically 290 vs the advertised 320 miles per charge.
The key for hwy driving is to shut off the regen (keep it at lvl 0) and maintain speed under 65 mph. The HDA feature in the 6 is an amazing tool to use for efficient hwy driving.
Also those $ figures are moot because every new 6 owner gets 2 years of free charging at EA. In 30 min you can go 30 to 80% on just a 150 kWh charging station.
The free charging is a screaming good deal with this car. I only charge at home to top off from 80 to 100 if I have to make any big trips.
Thanks for the reply. I'll have to give Lvl 0 a try on the next jaunt. I met a few folks at the EA chargers that had the free charging. We didn't because it was used and they were wondering why we would do that. Our purpose is different (commuting) so we saved a bunch over MSRP.
These cars are being HEAVILY discounted by Hyundai, and you can grt lease deals for $200/month. Also, many dealers will forgive up to 10,000 miles overage on the lease if you buy/lease from them again. This particular EV can be almost free to own, seriously. Especially with insane Colorado State/Utility incentives totalling over $25k
Why do you suggest shutting of regen when on the highway?
@@joer4367 See for yourself - Drive the 6 at 75 on a hwy starting at lvl 3, then tick down to 0. It's like a handbrake has been released on the car.
If you're on a steep downhill at a steady 65 or 75, I've been told to have the regen on so you get some recharge. Not much, but some.
Bottom line is on straight flat fwy and speed is steady at 65+, no point in having the regen on - doesn't buy you anything. Except flashing rear taillights each time you take your foot off the accelerator. Don't be that guy on the hwy. 🤦♂
Thanks for the video. That's an interesting experience and unfortunately too common. The supercharger network really makes these others look poor, so I'm very glad it's opening up over the next couple of years.
One quick tip, if the spacing of the chargers allows for it, I would suggest you try to get down closer to 10% or so before you stop. Even though this is a fast charging car, your overall time spent on the road will go down doing it that way. I completely understand wanting some buffer when you're learning a new process though. Safe travels!
You guys will learn !!! :) You should do another video like this one in a few months to show everybody that in reality it's not that bad !!! :)
@@brunogiffard7856 we have been using the car daily and charging from home and it's been awesome. Not sure when we will do another road trip with it. But we would definitely use superchargers when they are available to the Hyundai. That will make a huge difference
Nice. Welcome to the EV community. That car should come with 2-3 years free 30 minutes sessions on Electrified America. That’s more than enough to charge that car. There are other charging options on the road besides EA. You definitely have to plan accordingly. Once you figure out the limitations and how to use the car. They are a blast. Plus it’s a different community. The EV veterans are so helpful and they are always willing to help. On road trips I charge to 80% only. Because these style cars charge so fast to 80%. I have the Electrified G80.
Thank you. Since this is a used car, we don't get the free EA charging. We planned on only charging to 80 until our fiasco in Gainesville. That made us decide to spend the extra time topping off. We didn't mind that since it gave us breathing room. We will primarily be using it for a 1.5 hour commute and charge from home.
@@PatsGarageOnline oh ok. I’ve always said a car must have a purpose. If it get you access to that lane so your not stuck in that traffic up there then it’s worth the price of admission in my humbled opinion. I travel
FL-NY lanes as well. Hope she enjoys the experience.
Pat! Great video and testimonial of what a long distance trip would entail in an electric car (at this time). When you said that you do 'a lot of traveling' and 'out west', the FIRST thing I thought of (from your 2010 trip to Montana) was 'South Dakota' and then you said it and mentioned I-90! (I was thinking of the Corn Palace stop you made)
My boss has a 2024 Lyriq. The range at 100% is 370 miles (not bad). He loves it for around the town driving (like Alana) as you mentioned at the end of the video.
I would hope they could extend the range up to 500 miles on these cars!! Hopefully someday.
Hey Bob! Yep, you're right about my thoughts about driving out west for sure! After charging at the house, and the slower speeds, she can get between 300-350 miles of range, currently. That's with optimum temperature around 60-70 degrees. So it's performing well.
Gainsville is always a problem, I would have thought they would have fixed reliability with the new hardware.
I'm planning to do a road trip next summer with an Ioniq 6. It's too bad your dealer didn't set you up with the free 2 year Electrify America charging plan, which my Ioniq 6 had. So my trip next year will cost me $0.
@@robsquared2 since it was a used car from CarMax, we couldn't get the free charging.
@@PatsGarageOnline Ah that makes total sense. It's too bad it doesn't transfer.
I can smell the constant range anxiety from here. The main issue isn't running out, it's the hassle of finding a free and working charge outlet. It's a total lottery.
put 18 inch rims on it and youll gain 50 miles per charge :D
Also: RWD will gain another 40 miles versus AWD. That's why I chose the SE RWD: 361 miles versus 270 miles. Along with watching the speed, can easily average 4.4 miles per kwh.
It’s unfortunate how the terrible CCS charging network just ruins first EV impressions. I have a Model Y and regularly run from Tampa to South Carolina without issue only adding about 20 min to our gas car time. We’re about to make our second run to North Dakota. Clearly we don’t find it too bad. Having to que up to charge would be massively irritating. Plug Share is a good info source. In general, only charge enough to get to the next charger. Above 80%, charge rate slows dramatically on any EV. You'll make better time by charge hoping and not charging above 80% unless really necessary. There is only one stretch on the way to ND that requires me to charge to 100%. Usually it’s about 70% per stop and about 15 min hooked up. This method only works if there are plenty of charge stops. Also, when you get access to the Tesla network realize that most, but not all stations are available for non teslas. I don’t know how pricing will work for non Tesla charging, but for your route the most expensive rate I can find is $.38 per KwH. So it should be cheaper. Charging at home is the magic. Cheers.
I wish we had the ability to charge at Tesla superchargers. We would not have had the anxiety we had after Gainesville. That queue caused us to want to push past 80pct in case we got backed up at future DC Chargers. We only plan to charge at home and use it locally, so the inconveniences we had aren't significant enough to give us a bad EV experience. Infrastructure just needs improvement.
Hyundai ioniq 6 gets free 30 minutes of free charging at electrify America stations. I have 12 months left on my ioniq 6 limited 2023. I live in Florida and usually find that 1 or 2 chargers not working and at times long lines at the electrify America stations. I use the app to see what’s available prior to going to the charger. Tesla is still the leader with their charging network and they have a dozen or more chargers verses 4 to 6 chargers at electrify America stations. So when my free charging is expired I will not be using the electrify America network. I will be using Tesla network plus I now see Costco starting to install chargers which are way cheaper than EA network.
Thanks for confirming what we experienced in FL. We have since learned to use the app to make decisions. Since this was a used vehicle, we didn't get the free charging. But we primarily charge at home and use it for commuting and short trips so we haven't had to charge on the road since then. We put 6k miles on the car and love it. Rides like a Bentley!
When you purchased the vehicle. You didn't get the 2 year of free fast charging from electrify america?
@@estebannator2012 we bought it used so we didn't have that option. We saved 13k compared to MSRP on a new one. We intend to mainly charge at home.
yeah if your around states that have high electricity prices then of course. East coast will be more expensive. Other states def way cheaper then gas. Also prices of gas in the East coast especially Maryland change a lot and usually going up.
Interesting video... I am glad you wrapped it up with the analysis you presented because I came to the same conclusion. I recently looked at buying a Hyundai Ionic 5 but decided against it because of the .56 per kwh public fast-chargers. When I did the math; it was clear that these were more expensive than gas if you are rely on the public fast-chargers and since I am in the Tampa Florida area where public fast-chargers are not plentiful its not even convenient. I ended up buying a 2024 Hyundai Tuscon N-Line Hybrid that is rated for 37mpg on the highway. I already have a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Hybrid Limited that gets 50 mpg on the highway and both of them have the Highway Driving Assist that makes my drives between Tampa and the DC area a breeze. If I am in the position to setup a Home Charger in the future; I would probably consider a Hyundai EV for a keep in Florida car and use the Hybrid as my long road trip car.
After spending time in FL trying to fast charge, I can see why it would be difficult to own this kind of car there. The original owner was from Plant City and I'm not sure why they sold it, but if they expected to be able to use a good fast charging network there, I can see why they might have wanted to sell. Here in the DC Metro area, chargers are abundant and that means we can have some that are broken and not really impact people a ton. I hope to try out the Tesla Supercharger network when that becomes available. I am very impressed with Hyundai offerings and can see why you enjoy the two you have. They do make a long drive incredibly comfortable.
So picking the vehicle up in Florida did you have to pay tax twice once in Florida and then again in Maryland what are the seats like you're not for that long journey I like the color looks really good
@@sirgardensalot tax is only paid to the state where it is registered. Some states require that you pay the state of origin if you buy the car in that state and then pay your states registration. That was not the case with this car. The seats were super comfortable for this drive. We had no fatigue. After owning it for several months we believe it feels like driving a luxury car (think Bentley) but you're clearly not paying for that level of luxury vehicle. Hyundai did a super great job with this car. We drive it everywhere within the 300mi range we get on it, charging at home.
The lack of reliable infrastructure is what keeps me interested in an M3. Finding a working charger in many states can be a challenge. It's like when they go down they just leave them broken. Makes ZERO sense.
Yep. We only have been charging at home and it's great. We have a gas car for longer trips.
Is flying on points "free" or just money you already spent?
@@30smsuperstrat it's free to me because I can either pay cash for everything, or I can use my credit card and pay it off every month with no interest due and get points as a reward. So the points are free to me using this method.
sounds like you have the drive sound on. What Level?
@@jlester42 I didn't have the drive sound on
Your car Max chatges at 245kw on a good session, change the max charge level so it will accurately reflect how long it will take to go. Also drive until you hit a low state of charge. Why weren't you using the free charging?
It was a used car so there is no free charging. It only had 4k miles so it was as new when we bought it. But ,we did save 13k over a new one and plan to only charge it at home as it's a commuter car for Alana.
What a beating. I have a 2006 Prius that will go 450+ miles on 10 gals of gas and it takes maybe 10 minutes to fill
Yes, for long multi-state driving, hybrids make more sense. However, once they got home (Maryland), pretty much all their driving is within the driving range, so no more detours to gas stations. Just 10 seconds to plug in at home at the end of the day, and 10 seconds to unplug the next morning.
Ev road trip planning means you need to plan to arrive with lowest state of charge ideally around 10% so you can charge longer at top speeds. Plugging at 65% is bad you will get slower speeds as the battery is full. Ioniq 6 has max speed around 220kW. This is what you will get at the best even if you are plugged into 500kW labeled charger. Higher the state of charge gets lower the charging speed gets. Regarding your EV road trip conclusion, try it with Tesla Model 3 and it will change your mind. In terms of better efficiency but more importantly using Tesla Superchargers. Fast, reliable and always available. You arrive plug in and before you reach your phone the car is charging already. No need for credit cards or apps. Btw I drive Kia Niro EV. So I have to deal with the same issues on road trips. The truth is Tesla is the king for road trips in EV
Always start xharge session from the app when possible
We wish we could have done that. At some of these chargers, we couldn't get the app to actually work with the charger. After several attempts we needed to use a credit card. Some worked well, others did not.
Wow $.56 per kWh is really expensive!!! Here in Canada, where regular gas costs about $US 6.00 per gallon, filling up at a 150kW or 350kW fast charger costs $US.21 per kWh. So an EV is WAY cheaper to run than a gasoline powered car in this Country.
I'm in the US and pay $0.10 per kWh charging at home, which equates to driving 40-50 miles/US$. Where could you buy gasoline for under $1 USD?
Actually, with sales tax, it came to $.595 per kwh. But home charging is much cheaper. Here in Irmo SC, I pay $.068 per kwh, as opposed to $3/gallon gasoline.
Hi you did do pre conditioning
I did not. I didn't want to lose my Waze mapping via Carplay. Preconditioning requires me to use the Hyundai navigation system maps.
Imagine if all gas stations required an AP, filling up with gasoline would be just as problematic as charging an EV, and I own an EV.
Any reason getting this over a Tesla Model 3?
We weren't too happy about Tesla charging extra for features like self-driving that were standard on the Hyundai Limited. There is also a monopoly and control on parts and body panels from Tesla that prevent us from doing our own repairs if we chose to. Outside of that, I've never driven a Model 3 even tho I would have liked to also check it out before we decided on the Ioniq 6 Limited.
Do to it again id still get my Ioniq 6. I love the controls and free charging at electrify America and the ride quality.
Return it lol
Still not sold on EVs . I think they are only good for city travel. Diesel will out last them all.
They do have their purpose and with a solid charging network, I see them doing well for road trips in the future. But they are compact or luxury quality. When it comes to hauling long term, I'd choose a Diesel.
Wired Car play. 👎No thanks
@@hallcero We tried a wireless dongle for car play but weren't happy with it. It sometimes didn't connect so we had to spend time troubleshooting it which took longer than plugging it in. So if you want wireless you won't be happy with this car. I don't mind spending 2 seconds plugging in.
@@PatsGarageOnline Well, that was the reason I didn't buy it. Most cars connect iPhones without a cable. It's a car made for Android users. I bought a BMW
1000 miles in an EV, no thanks
With a new or lease IONIQ 6 and the free charging to 100%, it's actually really easy
Not in a Tesla. Not putting down other EVs, but road tripping in a Tesla in a non issue. I made a 5000 mile trip last year, and just came back from another 1000+ mile trip last month and they were easy charging with the Superchanging network.