Automaton Factory Striders vs. Terminid Bile Titans | Helldivers Lore
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Most dangerous alive : Strider
Most dangerous dead : Bile titan
I saw 1 bile titan killed 2 chargers when died
@@Dobraya_Rozetka2 birds 1 stone
@@A1D3N527 very undemocratic stone and birds*
@@A1D3N527 3 birds, one of them is stone
nah, i honestly find a few hunters or stalkers to be harder than a strider
Striders have insane range, firepower, health, and produce devistators.
However its easy to cripple them by taking out their main cannon and two front guns. Once those are gone you can effectively ignore it. Also usually one one shows up.
(edit) I play on difficulty 9. Everyone who's saying they have 4 spawning at the same time every drop are either lying or it was an outlier and now they have gaslit themselves into believing its every time.
With bile titans you need to kill them out right and many can show up at the same time.
They're both threatening in their own right, personally I find bile titans harder to kill, but striders are definitely more deadly
I literally had a hot drop yesterday in a blitz mission where we immediately got ganged by 2 factory striders at once
Always Terminids make up for their shortcomings with sheer numbers - God that's annoying
Bro I had THREE drop on me on Level SEVEN!!!
I have on many occasions had to fight 2-3 factory striders at the same time, believe me I would rather fight 6 bile titans at the same time than 3 factory striders at once, we got steamrolled that mission.
The factory strider can kill bile titans in an instant
I would love to see footage of this, for educational purposes, of course…
This post is being investigated by the ministry of truth
@@TheHK_47That's what I like to hear
For once I agree with a toaster
For Democracy!
Terminids are quantity while automatonsbare quality. You usually deal with 1 strider while you get 3 titans
Bots are definitely quantity as well.
@@Dark_Tesla they mix quantity and quality
Yea you get destroyed by like 6 bile titians after you
brother, starting from level 8, its at least 2 striders per drop, and more at level 9, along with tanks and hulks, lol
@@silkenemperor the new faction is gonna be the quality.
Bile titans are faster, and have melee capabilities that can make quick work of any helldiver unlucky enough to find themselves under their feet. While their ranged acid attack can be disabled their close melee attacks cannot be stopped. Only death can render them safe to be around. Orbital strikes work great, especially the railcannon. Factory striders are very lethal at both long range and close quarters, however a few well placed shots with weapons like the EAT, Recoiless Rifle, and Quasar Cannon can effectively turn them from a major threat to a minor annoyance. Once the top cannon and gatling guns are disabled all that's left to worry about is the enemies it spawns. Conclusion: NEITHER ARE A MATCH FOR THE POWER OF DEMOCRACY
lol That was informative, and an ending I wasn't expecting 😂
A good answer. A *smart* answer. And, most importantly, a DEMOCRATIC answer. Could use some more presentation points, though. Try orbital barrages, those tend to get everyone's attention
I dance with titans underbellies with the arc thrower. Takes 2-4 minutes to drop them alone. You want to be under the thorax and back leg opposite of the direction they are spinning. Follow the lead back leg. Watch out for large rock formations and uneven ground. Sometimes they work in your favor but many times they just go all crazy legs and you get double tapped into a flying torso.
Spoken like someone who mostly fights bugs
Just make the bots and the bugs fight, then deal with whoevers left.
Unfortunately, since both factions share the same wretched, undemocratic views, it is more likely that they would team up, and become a greater, even more dangerous threat. We mustn't let this happen, for the sake of Super Earth!
Automatons would clap terminids zero diff.
@@subifureAgreed, since there's a higher ratio of higher ranked helldivers to cadets on the west front, those automatons can surely overwhelm the bugs.
Liberty forbid the bots build new machinery to combat the bugs.
@@macnmemes1131 weapons to destroy enemies of democracy are good weapons! And any weapon/bot designed to fight bugs is one less weapon/bot designed to fight divers!
Automaton-Terminid combat WOULD be pretty cool.
Imagine automaton gunships flying above nests and providing aerial obliteration
Or bile Titans walking up to a fabricator and crushing it while chargers rush at devastators
Drop ships and bug breaches occuring at the same time
Bot and bug patrols seeing each other and start fighting
Bot outposts forced to use mounted guns to defend against terminid patrols
Commissars using grenades to close bug holes with raiders providing cover
I've found the fact that striders are slow af to be advantageous, whereas the moment a bile titan notices you, you better down it or kiss your behind goodbye
There is 1 difference that does separate things a bit.
Factory Striders are rarer than Bile Titans and usually only come in groups or 2 or less, with the most I’ve seen being 3 at the same time on a level 9 Helldive geological survey mission. They can also be crippled by destroying their range weapons making them safe to deal with from a distance, combine this with their slow movement speed, easiness maneuvering under them, and the fact their weak spot underneath their belly can be continuously attacked until they die, they definitely can become less threatening. However remember they can and WILL spawn in 5 Devastators and you’ll have trouble ignoring them, they don’t exactly take a while to do this either they spawn a new group every 2 minutes I believe.
In comparison, the Bile Titan can also have its ranged attacks deleted however the only issue with this is that you have to be under them or have immaculate aim and tracking to destroy their bile sacks, and even when destroyed it’s good to remember the Bile Titan can catch up to you when you aren’t running, and is harder to maneuver under without dying to its one-shot legs. Also if its range attack is disabled, unlike the factory strider, this can theoretically make it more challenging as you lose the distance you gain when it stops to vomit, along with any potential friendly fire damage it can do to other bugs unfortunate enough to be in the vomits path. They can also spawn in multiple groups, on Helldiver missions naturally I’ve seen about 4-5 at the same time meaning you WILL have to bring dedicated Titan killer stratagems to handle these things. They also have less weak spots than the strider with only the bile sacks under disabling its ranged attack (even if it does still damage it) and only the head being a notable weak point but even then only to high armor piercing weapons. That being said they cannot spawn more units beside themselves, are limited in combat options, and have less health than striders (Factory striders give or take have about 2-3X the health of Bile Titans if you aren’t targeting their weak spots with powerful weaponry)
Overall I still think situationally the Strider poses a greater threat as it has more tools at its disposal and would still have other bots created or not assisting it if it’s ranged weapons were destroyed, combined with its massive health pool and the fact most stretchers (Like the Railcannon) don’t even two-shot it or may only disable one of its weapons/weak points, while in comparison the Bile Titan can be one-shot or heavily injured by a rail cannon and has to rely on players not having any anti-tank strategems to really strive in battle.
With bile titans it’s a really dependent on how much you pissed off the game because if you pissed it off it will just say fuck u and spawn upwards of 12bile titans at the same time
@@bobdafishyes6536yeah, and if they chose to only use melee that mission, it gets ten times worse because then you have no time to breath, as they constantly try to run your fade
@@bobdafishyes6536 I just got 9! spawn on me yesterday in LV9 SOLO ICBM Mission and jesus christ, 4 OF IT decided to do only melee and I can't help but just helplessly ran around the map for like 7 or 8 minutes to escape them because I take a non suitable stratagem (Laser, Airstrike, Supply Pack and Sniper), what a nightmare, luckily a comrade drop just in time with a titan slaying stratagem and we all extracted out alive.
They may be deadly, but the real deadliest force on the battlefield are the Helldivers
Strider. No question. No competition. Fucking striders.
Sounds like a skill issue.
Bots are weak af.
When we're talking single sttaider versus single titan, perhaps you're correct.
But when you look at spawn rates and how difficult they are to deal during breaches/bot drops, titans can pose greater threat than strider, especially since very rarely you'll see more than one at the time.
Ur just so freaking bad
Nah. I find striders harder. I pimp slap bile titans left and right. Autocannon and maybe some EATs, and I'm golden.
@@AnonD38standing in front of bile titan: dodge if it spits, walk away if it stomps
Standing in front of strider: instant fucking oblitteration from 2 front facing turrets with a range of 200 meters in front of it shooting at a rate of 2000 bullets per minute.
I dunno where that counts as weak af but okay 😂
I find the bile titans a bigger threat purely because they can gang up on you like 5 at a time sometimes
They are quicker than it looks too
2 Eagle Airstrikes
1 Eagle airstrike and an orbital precision strike
Usually orbital laser will take it out but a bit slow
Fun fact, you can shoot the red "eye" at the front panel with the AMR and it will deal a good chunk of damage. I managed to finish 3 off with that shot yesterday on a defense mission.
Given terminids usual tactics of overwhelming enemies, I’d argue this should be more like, 3 Titans v 1 strider.
I wanna watch them fight *so* god damn badly.
Tile bitans are harder to hit but can die to one hit from certain stratagems, AT-ATs are easier to hit but very tanky
If the Bile Titan's started to shit out bugs, they might would be worse than the Factory Striders. Thats just me.
Has any one seen an Automaton Factory Strider fight a Terminid Bile Titan?
The amount of times I've been sniped by the gun onto of the strider.
Imagine a new difficulty above helldive where you have both bugs and bots on the same map
Deadliest enemy: fucking stalkers!
Factory striders are the most difficult to deal with, dealing with a bile titan only takes like 1-2 orbital railgun.
railcannon has a 3 minute and 30 second recharge time
the fairer fight would be like, 1 strider vs 2~3 titans, theyre not a 1-1 comparison, titans are so much more common than striders.
Usually you fight 1 maybe 2 striders, but at the same time you are fighting like 5 bile titans
Never expected the bugs to team up with the robots.
on one hand the mgs on the strider are devastating especially when they phase through rocks. But at the end of the day you can literally kill it with nothing more and a primary where as if you find yourself on cooldown and out of at or using a diff weapon biles suddenly become a nightmare. Not to mention I might see 1 strider per game but ill see at least 2 biles per breach.
By themselves technically striders. But personally I’ve seen it to be much more common for multiple titans to spawn at once then striders. Not by that much still. Every enemy can be dealt with with proper equipment and response. However bugs due to their variety and balancing are slightly harder to deal with if you don’t have proper communication with your team. Ironically enough that’s was makes them them slightly more difficult for me. Bots I’ve gotten a pretty solid load out. Stratagems for crowd control and special take downs when I don’t have the time to whittle.
But bugs? I’m either either great at crowd control and have to take time with specials (mostly chargers and titans) or I’m decent at the specials and struggle to manage the horde.
The bile titan can perform some sick kung fu moves upon death while the strider can twerk when killed
"Helldivers are sure to be crushed" oooor flung to outer space for accidentally climbing on it's dead body
Just a few Quasar shots and the bile titan is dead, but it's gonna take alot more to defeat a factory strider.
Most dangerous and most annoying enemy is still the bile spewer. High dmg, 2 attack modes and a huge number of them
stalkers, but you can’t find their nests
Titans: “Don’t worry guys, keep doing the mission, I’ll drop both titans.”
Striders: “Dear God…AH-“
One would dream a planet where both automatons and Terminids are fighting each other
I mean, Bile Titans literally aren't a threat, you can just straight ignore them
wrong. if you ignore them, then turn around 30 seconds later, there is a 90% chance you find 5 more chasing you
@@Cyloss87
I kind of agree. For factory striders, they don't fight alone, and you need the strongest weapons imaginable to take them down.
what if i told you, that bile titans actually have wings? nobody's scared of cockroaches, until they begin to fly
The amount of times I died to ragdoll after getting too close to a dead bile titan is just unholy
Those god darn hunters
If you get chased by a bile titan and it catches up, dive in between its legs. It works every time for me. Get in a few shots while you’re under it then keep running
I feel like I can just run away from factory striders until my cooldown are over
Killing a Strider only requires medium penetration (amr, laser cannon, etc), while killing a bile titan requires multiple shots with heavy penetration, and titans always come with high number
I first heard " the enemies of humidity are numerous..."
Bruh💀
Factory striders can also stick their heads into the terrain and gun you down through a cliff or a mountain
Once you take out the bile titans sacs to take away, its ability to spit it just becomes a minor nuisance from then on
If you find yourself in front of a strider with no cover then you are already dead. Meanwhile a titan can be danced without worry if you know what you’re doing.
The bot equivalent of Bile Titans is Tanks. There’s a reason factory striders were added later. The bug equivalent of a Factory Strider will be the Hive Lord
I would love a three way planetary battle between automatons, terminids and helldivers.
Bots have proven to be a worthy opponent for us they're much smarter than bugs and have shown they can develop weapons and vehicles faster than super earth can. Its likely that after each battle the bots scavenge their fallen comrades and put them back together to be deployed again and again. They can't truly die.
So when I was just starting out with a cadet when I was pulled on a level 7 mission and we landed nearby a air base and I saw a factory strider blow up half of my team and when I call down reinforcements just as they landed it dropped down rocket devastators, I will just say I will never forget that day.😰😰😰
Bugs are hard because they overwhelm you with sheer numbers. Automatons overwhelm with sheer numbers....and guns.
I tried to get my whole team to throw rail cannon strikes , it worked but the strider just shot us with the top mounted cannon.
We need an all out war between all factions, bugs, bots, aliens, seaf!
yall be facing A strider, i be facing 10 TITANS
I just got melted by an Strider, like, I got out of cover for a blink of an eye and I died
A bile titan is way harder to kill but is less immediately threatening.
I dare move under a Bile Titan to keep it distracted and try my best to fight it from underneath. A Stryder can attack almost from everywhere and especially below.
Now i want to see who would win if the Terminids and Automaton clash with each other
Something that I would find really cool for held ivers if that , there was a fourth enemy type that was literally just Traitor humans that you would have to fight. That'd be really cool, like you'd have to fight super Earth's own resources and stuff like that.
And no, I'm not saying PVP I'm saying PVE but human.
Biletitans and bugs in general are harder for me to deal with. Striders aren't much of a treat they are slower and its easy enough to take out it's weapons before it or any of the bots around it get close.
It’ll be cool to see the other factions fight each other. Bots vs bugs vs us. Image all the factions fighting over one planet.
Bile titans used to scare me until i realize how easy they go down.
Factory striders still scare me beczuse they just REFUSE TO DIE- i swear to god they take so much damage
The striders duel frontal machine guns are able to turn any diver into Swiss cheese in the matter of seconds. You can dodge bike titans but not automaton bullets.
The difference between them is you can take out a factory strider with basically any weapon by shooting it's belly, a single full magazine of auto cannon rounds can easily take out a factory strider but that isn't the case for the bile titans the auto cannon can't even penetrate it's armour,also bile titans usually have the numbers advantage and only a few support weapons actually have the power to take one out making them way harder in reality
Factory Striders are tougher (and more fun to fight) but sometimes there’s 5 Bile Titans lmao. The most I’ve seen on the map at one time was 2 Factories.
Thing about the Bile Titan is that it can go down with one railcannon orbital
The strider doesn't
Note that also the strider is only featured in its own mission, so it's more of a boss than the bile.
That's why I want the galactic war to go far North on map, to allow bugs and bots to enconter, just imagine, fabricators and bugs nest on same map, forcing you to adapt to fight both at once, but can also give truly epic battles in backgrounds like a patrol of hunters and a charger fighting a patrol of bots with a hulk and of course, see Strider fighting a Bile Titan for real and see who is the toughest
ive gotten trapped under dead strider on more then one occasion...
Everyone on the subreddit seems to think the Bile Titan is more difficult, which I don’t understand. They are both easily taken down with good team coordination, but can be very deadly when unexpected or in numbers. The only difference is that the factory strider is more armored, has long and medium range weapons, and can spawn devastators to cover the short range.
Would love to see a cage match between the bile titan and the factory strider.
Bile Titans appear much more commonly than Factory Striders. Not only that, but striders can be easily countered by hiding behind terrain while bile titans can just step over it. This is kinda like Quantity vs Quality, Bile titans being weaker but more common and striders being rarer but more deadly.
K this just gave me the awesome idea of tweaking the AI so it’s bugs vs bots, spawning a couple armies and watching them just go at it.
Simply destroying one piece can help your groups chances of coming out on top. For striders removing the Gatlings from the front will insure that your squad won’t get shredded and can be closer to it to avoid the big cannon at the top. For titans the bigger part of the underside will put a permanent stop to the bile spewing. Forcing it to melee makes it hold still for strats to land on it
I agree, Bile Titans are not bad to deal with. But these AT-AT walkers, I need Eagle-1 to use tow cables to take them out
It honestly depends on if you have the necessary tools. On one hand, bile titans can be taken out by one precision strike or 500kg, but on the other hand, the factory strider can be taken out by 4 impact grenades.
In theory, yes. In practice, good luck traversing 50m of no man’s land since factory striders are rarely alone and have two weapons that can near instantly kill you.
Thats impossible that only works if the strider is distracted, the mini guns will melt you faster than you can even think of throwing a grenade
@@gamers-xh3uc thats why you either go behind or get rid of the mini guns. You would be surprised what one stim can do for you when you are in big crowds. You get better at it the more you do it, then it becomes pretty consistent
I have yet to fight a strider, but I've killed a Titan by using my landing pod on it.
I’m usually off destroying outposts and doing side objectives while the rest of the team does main, and personally I can take a bile titan with my usual loadout but a strider I’m better off taking out the outpost and running away to the next
While Factory Striders have a big arsenal of heavy weapons and heavy armor, depending of the difficulty I've seen 4-5 biles titans at the same time, so yeah, in a 1v1 factory wins, but bugs only care about numbers
it really just depends on what you’re running. if you have to get close to either then the strider is more dangerous assuming it still has the guns, whereas you can effortlessly run between a bile’s legs and be fine. really if you can destroy a striders gatlings then it’s not a big threat but pound for pound they are a greater threat
The thing is that Bile Titans can be dealt with but it’s hard to deal with 5 of them T a time. Striders tho don’t herd as much. Individually, the ATAT is more dangerous but Bile Titans swarm together to compensate
If you have cover, striders arent that scary. With a bile titan, you CANT hide. They WILL find you and they WILL stomp you. that being said I play mostly bots not bugs.
A bugged bile titan is the most dangerous thing
striders are more deadly by far. however in my opinion the most deadly thing in this game is accidental/purposeful friendly fire, bar none.
its bad enough to get shot at by automatons, its even worse when you get blown into little chunks by a teammate who accidentally misclicked while holding a power weapon
I haven’t quite fought a strutter yet, but for some reason, the most annoying bug to deal with probably has to be the tank
I've been forgetting to look up how to kill Factory Striders XD
I still die while climbing over bile titan legs and being flung into outer space
The thing is bile Titans are just not equals to factory striders. Striders take 3 500 kgs to kill, meanwhile you can kill a bile Titan with 1 500, and an orbital or rail gun strike.
Bile Titans are really just the terminid equivalents to the tanks the automatons have
Also something he didn't mention is that Bile Titans only take up to two Orbital Railcannon Strikes. No More, no less. This means no matter what, two Orbital Railcannon Strikes back to back will kill a Bile Titan 100% of the time. The same logic works with two Orbital Lasers, and two Eagle 500kg Bombs. However two of each of these things will not destroy a Facrory Strider, as you will seemingly always need at least 3. That means 3 Orbital Railcannon Strikes, 3 Orbital Lasers, or 3 Eagle 500kg Bombs (or a mixture of all 3). On top of this, Factory Striders drop Devastators so it's no question Factory Striders are way harder then Bile Titans.
I hate fighting Bile Titans way more, because they just walk out from under any calldowns I send their way, except for the Rail Strike.
Bile titans seem to be more common than factory striders
Striders have range and can deploy smaller bots to attack you.
Titans have speed and numbers.
Both are dangerous in different ways.
Having fought both I say the striders are harder and there is a reason only one is deployed at a time meanwhile you can have three bike titans chasing you strider harder
Oh i thought this was going to be you spawning them in and watching them duke it out.
Shame that we'll never see enemy v enemy things in this game.
I one shot a bile titan multiple times with the new buffed Orbital Strike. I took at least 6 with a fac strider. It's like comparing apples to oranges. At least in my opinion
I have seen too many people get ripped up by those front Gatling guns on a strider, but the bile of a titan? That’s easy to survive.
Factory striders litteraly die within 3 impact nades to the belly. The bile would obliterate the factory striders
Most dangerous enemy for a helldiver is a helldiver
Super Earth isn't the same earth after we lost the first galactic war.
it's very much a playstyle thing.
I usually play on the automaton front, keeping distance and insta killing them when they appear (1 500k + 1 orbital precision strikes is enough).
The bug front for me has been near impossible as a whole.
either way Keep up fighting well fellow divers.
When i see a bile titan on helldive missions, i giggle, mark it for my squad, then pull out my trusty Spear to one shot it in the face, and in case it doesn't work i have stratagems and I've already marked it for my squad.
Factory striders take way more strategy to deal with. They usually deploy along other bots, so i have to time my shots in order to destroy it's cannons while also trying not to get shot myself.
So, striders win, easily
I think a titan is more deadly. It walks up yo you to get into spitting/stomping range, and doesn't take long for it to reach you.
The Strider may have deadly armaments, but they're extremely slow, and all heavy weaponty can be taken out safely from a distance.
Heavy machine gun and max fire rate on his belly... Dies in 3sec.