Megadeth and Metallica are not even in the same ballpark…
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We all know the story by now, or at least you should! When Metallica formed in 1981 because Lars sucked at Tennis, he teamed up with James Hetfield who were both obsessed with bands such as Motorhead, Judas Priest and Black Sabbath to name a few.
The pair mutually bonded over their love for Heavy Metal and also shared a dream of becoming Rock Stars one way or another. Lars and James wanted to create their own version of heavy metal, but faster, angrier and more aggressive than the traditional sounds of Sabbath and others.
As history shows, Metallica would become one of a handful of bands that would go on to pioneer a new genre called Thrash, and during their early years a young red headed guitar wizard known as Dave Mustaine would contribute greatly to their early success. Some would even argue that Metallica simply wouldn’t have even made it without Dave Mustains early contributions and influence.
Metallica’s first record, Kill Em All, released in 1983 was raw, powerful and by all accounts, Thrash. It is without doubt one of the earliest Thrash records ever released. And the same can be said for their second LP, Ride The Lightning, in 1984.
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Obviously the records Megadeth put out in the 90s we're not Thrash. The point was they were better than Load and Reload. I don't think the world will end because I said "Thrash".
Let's get some things straight shall we...
1. Not once in this video did I say Metallica wrote Mechanix. Nor did I say they wrote The Four Horseman. What I did say was, and I quote: "he [Dave] also decided to record his own version of The Four Horseman, a song that appeared on Metallica's first record" which is exactly what he did and exactly what happened. The Four Horseman and Mechanix, are quite literally by definition, different versions of the same song. Not once did I imply Metallica wrote either version of the song before Dave Mustaine.
2. I'm not sh**ing on Metallica, I literally produced an entire documentary dedicated to the band saying how incredible they are on this very channel. Did I say some negative things about them? Yes. That doesn't mean I think negatively about them as a band overall. Your interpretation of my words is your interpretation, not mine.
3. A lot of you are missing the point of the video and becoming over-emotional because you think I'm attacking a band you are passionate about. I'm not attacking Metallica, I still love that band and I state that fact in the video, but they are not even remotely comparable as Thrash bands anymore, that's the entire point of the video. And again, there's nothing wrong with that, it's just an observation.
4. Want to know why I produced this video? Over the last few years, I've had many a conversation with many people regarding music. One question that routinely appears is "Who is better, Megadeth or Metallica?" and I came to realise that you cannot compare these bands anymore within this context as they are now so different. Hence the title!
5. For the people that keep point out "Metallica came before Megadeth"; yes they did but are we forgetting that Dave Mustaine was literally in the first iteration of Metallica? It's highly conceivable that Mustaine had more of an influence on Metallica's early sound than James and Lars combined.
Finally, I welcome civilised discussion. If you disagree with me, no problem, express your opinion.
I have loved Metallica and Megadeth for a long time and I will continue to do so. I will also continue to express my opinion however I see fit.
Stay Metal
I get it, but Lemmy, Raven and Venom thought kill em all was nothing more than motorhead on speed, and that it wasn't until ride the lightning that they respected them as a band with their own identity and sound... Mustaine has tried hard to achieve what Metallica has with going commercial like them but somehow didn't have the guitar riffs to compete with no more Mr Nice guy, bread line, in my darkest hour, sweating bullets against Metallica's one and black album which commercially are better songs imo. And mustaine admitted practically his entire career was chasing the dream of being bigger than Metallica but commercially he couldn't do it
Grew up on thrash metal. Don’t listen to much post 2000 Metallica but Megadeth is still bringing the heat! Megadeth>
Megadeth=Better musicians then Metallica. Dave is a much better guitarist then Kirk and James. imagine Marty , and now Kiko. and i do like both bands, but man, Megadeth is so much harder to play. Better musicians and lyrics wise... both are great.
@@danh7447 yet all that great musicianship will never sell more records than Metallica and create a bigger legacy... You know why? The world doesn't gaf about how technical your music is, they want those perfect riffs instead... It's harder to write a great song than Play technical because technicality isn't selling records has much as that great 3 chord guitar riff, so it's harder to write a great song
@@johnthesecond19 I'm the opposite, don't listen to anything past the black album but don't listen to anything past peace sells... No more Mr Nice guy and his congested nose voice just no longer did it for me
Slayer is thrash's most consistent band. They released the same album like 9 times.
No shit 😆
hahahaha
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gnorW
Creatively, it's Not necessarily a Good Thing....
When I started playing guitar, I learned Metallica songs first, because Megadeth was beyond my level.
That part!
So true. Metallica is more basic, Megadeth is the master level stuff.
@@redseethus2872 for what exactly
@@nikola5308 guitar
I just said fuck it and dove right into killing is my buissness
I Love both , but no one can play like Dave it's insane to play those riffs and sing att the same time , it has so much layers ...
Try playing bass and singing. Lol.
Yeah, and please tell me what Hetfield does?
@@JonnySublimeyells yeeaaaah and down picks
@@jsnippes62 your brain is showing, luckily, I have a microscope
@@JonnySublime as a Metallica fan, i kinda have to agree, just 0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 and "Yayeaaaheaaah!"
I started playing guitar 20 years ago because of Metallica but Dave's guitar playing blew my mind . Both are badass!!!!!
pretty much the same here cept i started two years ago
daves spider chords . wow. 🤘🤘
Yeah, store credit at Wal-Mart
Yes !!
@@luisgordillo1695 he didn't invent those, contrary to his mouth, that's a classical guitar technique that people like Segovia, Tarrega, and Villa-Lobos have been using for like a hundred years. I still love Megadeth, it's just Dave's mouth that turns me off.
Dave may have lost the fight in the 80s but he has dominated the war since rip. I feel like Dave and Megadeth are starting to get the credit they have always deserved by people and critics.
Especially since metallica is getting increasingly stale while Dave has kept it real!
I feel the Same Way.....it is Megadeths Time.
@@audiosoil1 both bands made multiple garbage albums in the 90s
@@TheTenCentStory boy you got that right. St anger...ClAnG!
@@audiosoil1 St. Anger wasn't even released in the 90s.
Like the metal god Rob Halford said "For consistency, Megadeth."
Enough of that 🍉
For everything else, Metallica.
Ironic cause Priest wasn't consistent at all lmao
Too bad he can't say that about judas priest!! Nothing but crap since Screaming for Vengeance. But everything before. Fucking genius!!!! I guess he can say that up till then. Back to megadeth.... first two albums. Only good ones. The rest are so clean and polished and fake sounding. Metal should never sound light. I mean the productions. His sound of the band. Yes HIS sound of the band. Tinny... no balls. Whiney singing.. his high pitched gruff doesn't sound like it cuts through for metal imo... but it did for the first two albums... he was on fire back then. Pushed out two major classic metal albums.... mean sounding.. riffs were phenomenal... the band was killer playing their hearts out.. brutal playing... dirty sounding.... not so polished... all heart!!! After that....Just nice clean polished metal for the good kids . Lol. Metal for the jocks who think they know metal lol. Ugh. Berkley players band. To me... they were done after Peace Sells.... like Metallica after black album. But the black album was their defenders of the faith... you knew it was over .
Frfr painkiller rips tho
I agree. Megadeth is on their own level. Metallica really advanced the genre, but Megadeth has defined it.
Metallica is more mainstream - Megadeth quite a bit deeper and better musically.
@@jimihendrixx11 wow....mainstream. You seriously think you sound smart, don't you? 🤣
@@klaatubarada7556It amazes me how Metallica fanboys are bashing Megadeth. What are you 15?
Perfect example of what happens when a bad thing happens to a good person and carma does the rest 😊 you go Dave mustaine
and Pantera killed everyone
Metallica produced great music during the 80s. Mustaine is the true thrash king! Some insane riffs on the new singel
When i went to see Megadeth on the Peace Sells tour, I bought a pass to the after party, and had to whole band sign the back of my white Peace Sells tee that i had purchased that night. True Story.
So you have Chris Poland and Gar Samuelson's signatures? That's amazing
@@Faolain_ I did, unfortunately the tee got traded for a Fender bass guitar a couple of years after the show.
@@mude.mcmudskipper8907 you traded a one of a kind shirt for a bass? Bruh
@@H.E.M. Yup. . . it was in 1988. It wasn't all that important to me. I was more stoked just to be at the party, plus I just would have sold it later down the road anyway. When Gar went to sign my friends shirt, he folded it up and signed it, upside-down and on the inside. Dick move, but a funny one. (my buddy didn't find it very funny.)
I believe it they played a skating rink here in Pittsburgh for that tour
Both are equally as great , I grew up a die hard metallica fan , but I've learned to appreciate megadeth more and more .
@SkyNet General maybe Metallica should have given some credit to the bands that they stole songs from. Metallica and Led Zeppelin have stolen more material from other artists than anyone in the history of music.
@SkyNet General I am going to tell all the people I know to post more videos on plagiarism. It might even result in some settlements out of court . I certainly hope so , these multi millionaire corporate industry planted bands need to share some of their money with the people who actually earned it for them
@SkyNet General yes I totally agree. I like Metallica, but almost every band that's made it big seems to have stepped on the heads of smaller bands on their way up the ladder of success. It's almost like you can't get wealthy in this world without screwing someone over. Mustaine has stated in interviews that when James hears a riff and likes it he doesn't say let's do something similar, he says let's use it . Of course some of their music is original, it's just that they love to add as many bits and pieces of songs to their riff salad style
@SkyNet General *Tapping Into The Emotional Void - Excel 1989 (Enter Sandman - Metallica 1991) *Go to Hell - Megadeth 1991 (Lyrics Enter Sandman - Metallica 10 days later 1991) *Recipe For Hate... Warhorse - Megadeth 2001 (Spit Out the Bone - Metallica 2016) *Princess of the night - Saxon 1981 (Seek and Destroy - Metallica 1983) *Darkness Descends - Dark Angel 1986 (One - Metallica 1988) *Snakes of Christ - Danzig 1989 (Thorn Within - Metallica 1996) *Set the Stage Alight - Weapon 1980 (Hit The Lights - Metallica 1983) *Die By His Hand - Exodus 1983 (Creeping Death - Metallica 1984) *Sleeps With Thunder - Metal Church 1999 (All Nightmare Long - Metallica 2008) *Over My Dead Body - Metal Church 1986 (Through The Never - Metallica 1991) * Green Grass and High Tides - Outlaws 1975 (Welcome Home Sanitarium - Metallica 1986) *Get Stoned - Stone 1988 (Enter Sandman - Metallica 1991) *Sucking My Love - Diamond Head 1982 (Seek and Destroy - Metallica 1983) *Dead Reckoning - Diamond Head 1982 (Seek and Destroy - Metallica 1983)
@SkyNet General I agree about Nirvana, but I haven't seen enough footage on the band to know whether their plagiarism was intentional or not. Considering that James Hetfield is one of the world's best rhythm guitar players it makes it a little more obvious that he knows exactly what he is really doing. Also the guys in Metallica all had huge album collections of underground Metal bands, and the majority of riffs have been lifted note for note from these obscure Metal bands. They did however incorporate a top 40 1970s hit song into Four Horsemen with Lynnerd Skynnerd - Suite Home Alabama. That probably opened the floodgates for internet nerds to research all Metallica songs.
Dave has even sung songs over seas in the native language. That’s impressive for multiple reasons. Respect.
Dave mustaine is mozzart/beethoven/chopan tier as a musical figure
Nice bro I couldn't agree more with you Mozart but you can't forget about his tremendous ❤
The Mechanix was originally written by Dave for Metallica, there's even recordings of it that exist on UA-cam, with James on vocals
We all know
It was rewritten as The Four Horsemen so that Lars could get a writing credit for Dave's song.
Metallica hasn't been worth a damn since they ran out of Dave's material.
@@Frank_nwobhm ...and justice for all!
@@Frank_nwobhm That's what I'm screaming
@@knorkstea606 That's a Metallica album that I almost never pull when I want to hear the band. The material is decent but largely unremarkable, and of course Lars destroyed it but removing the bass from the master tapes.
I have a theory on Metallica. Look at the picture of the band on the sleeve. If James's forehead is covered by his hair, it's a great record. If you can see James's forehead because the hair is pulled back it probably sux. If his hair is cut short it really, really sux.
That’s not necessarily true because the album, “Risk” was definitely a departure from Thrash Metal and was panned by many critics and fans alike. But overall, Megadeth have been more consistent in staying with their thrash roots.
They had several albums that weren't thrash starting with countdown then youth and cryptic then risk. The entire 90s except rust in peace was not thrash.
Mechanix is faster but that doesn't mean better. I think it sounds like shit compared to the four horsemen.
@@midnight347 This right here is the actual truth. Megadeth wasn't blazing some thrash metal trail through the 90s. Anyone who thinks their albums were thrash metal in the 90s needs to listen to them again. And again. And again. And then go back and re-listen to their 80s material. There's a clear cut difference.
Yes but Dave was jeous of Metalicas success, he has said it himself and think logically, its after the success of the black album that all thrash bands changed up and tried to cash in on the success of that album
Megadeth is not getting any slower the older they get
If you think Countdown isn't thrash you don't know what thrash is. Other than Risk and Cryptic Writings all of the other Megadeth albums are definitely thrash.
No denying the success and impact of Metallica. They've certainly turned out their share of awesome music but for my money the original version of Rust In Peace is the greatest thrash album ever produced
I concur, the new Megadeth single: We'll Be Back would be right at home on Rust In Peace.
For me it's peace sells
Agree my favorite metal album of all time with holy wars as possibly the best metal song ever..The reason for me is you can put in rust right now and it hasn’t aged,it sounds epic from start to finish. I love metallica also but I truly don’t have an album of there’s that I can just listen to all the time..
What do you mean the original version? Is the remaster bad?
@@harls7317 they remixed it, they heavily the mids, destroyed the drum sound and re-recorded all the vocals, Take No Prisoners is easily the worst on thing about the remaster
Both bands have been a fixture in my life since the beginning, and I love them both. But as I've said before, (maybe somebody else said it, I suffer from CRS) Metallica makes music for people; their fans. It's well packaged and easy to digest. Whereas, Dave makes music for musicians. More layers than a lasagna.
The problem with music as a sport is you can't win. If megadeth's only claim to fame is virtuosity, that's sad because they have nothing on newer death metal and prog bands. Or even good youtubers making demo tracks.
@@fredriksvard2603well Megadeth is pretty complex but they’re are always gonna be better musicians, look at buckethead he’s incredible but not many people that don’t play guitar even know about him. It’s all subjective at the end of the day I just listen to what I like.
@@fredriksvard2603rust in peace has stood the test of time still, peace sells isn’t far behind and the demonic shredding on kimb was only hindered by the sound production, same with sfsgsw which is an awesome and unique metal album.
All hail the true father and torch protector an original he never stopped cut his hair or sold out. Cheers to Dave My metal brothers
I was thinking about this lately and why Metallica has had more commerical and mainstream success than Megadeth. Putting aside specifics of the music to me it comes down to the general ethos of both bands.
Metallica was always much more business oriented. Not taking away from their skill as they've made some fantastic music, but looking at their history you can see they were much more calculated to be successful than Megadeth.
Look at the names. Metallica is marketably brilliant in how it completely sums up what they're all about but also doesn't pigeonhole themselves and isn't offensive to anyone.
A name like Megadeth is a statement of purpose that would make parents gasp and anything veering from its implications can be off-putting to fans. You expect the loudest angriest music from a name like that.
Metallica fired Dave for being too chaotic, the "heaviest band in the world" fired their guitarist for being too extreme. And they were incredibly professional and consistent in their endless touring. Even with alcoholism, death of Chris, and James being lit up on fire they barely missed a beat to play a great set for the fans for decades.
Megadeth did tour a lot with some amazing shows and occasionally Dave would try to work with the biz but it's harder to maintain a consistent image, quality, and professionalism when you keep changing members with some constantly going in and out of rehab. And have even stated at a certain point they couldn't even perform well without shooting up. It didn't really seem like the business side of things was a focal point.
Metallica is the more presentable image of metal while Megadeth is the reality of it (for better or worse with how much turmoil it caused).
And before St Anger no one really knew how much dysfunction was behind the scenes of Metallica while with Megadeth's dysfunction was almost unintentionally part of the band's brand for awhile.
Dave originally mostly only cared about the music with being as complex, loud, and fast as possible. He flubbed hard when really trying to be mainstream and only did it to attempt to one up Metallica.
Metallica already understood what it takes to be mainstream and landed it with precision, while Dave just wasn't built for it; but he is perfect for the angst and aggression of thrash with the musical chops to back it up.
And if we do get into the music, personally having tried to learn to play songs from both bands Metallica riffs and solos are generally simpler (once again not a bad thing) than Megadeth who have more virtuosity.
It's easier to get and connect to a Metallica riff for the average listener (which I believe is by design), while Megadeth can take some time to appreciate bc of how complex it can be.
So Metallica slated itself as being the metal band for everyone; catchy riffs that hit hard with a more pleasant voiced singer (which makes their ballads way more palatable esp on ballads, even though I personally like Dave's singing). While I always found Megadeth to be a musician's favorite band.
Dude, that was probably the most articulate way i have ever read someone explain the difference between the two. Good job.
@@justjeff600 Thank you. Guess all that time obsessing over metal turned out to be useful 😅
@@arthurdurham metal shall be living on bc of people like us
If in Metallica or megadeth does not matter at the end of the day
That's a very good point, it's always fresh having someone that takes the time to articulate is opinion without go for "Metallica or Megadeth sucks". The points of the relation and the importance given to fans, the professionalism are very good points. Even in the tour that Metallica did with GnR everyone was talking about that, the difference between the two bands, specially James and Axl. And the voice as well, for me Dave's voice is a turning down, i just dont identify with it, in comparision the Hetfields 80's agressive, full of rage, but in the wright way is my all time favorite. But on the part of the simpler and easy to listen songs or complex ones, i kind of see it other way, specially untill the Black Album. I dont think Ride, Master or Justice where simpler albuns. What i see , and just an opinion, is that Metallica songs are in general better built. If you pick Holly Wars and Master, and isolate, just the riffs, just the solo, both amazing, but the structure of the songs, the melodical parts, the interludes (for me the writting and deliver by the singer), when you join all elements, sounds fluid and interesting in Metallica, and sometimes, in some Mega songs seemed like the riffs and solos where throwned to the song and theres not much connection. He has writtes an super fast solo, hard to play, but that doesnt seems to be oart of the same song. I think that Dave needed (he would hate this) to have someone like Lars (and having spent more time with Cliff and all the more classical and inovative stuff he brought) with him, not only because the business oriented mind, but also to make it different when piecing up a song. But i loved your view on it, sorry for my english. Cheers.
@@brunofreitas9314 Thank you! And that's a great point as well. Just look at "Four Horsemen" vs "The Machanix". Metallica's version is better (if you're judging by being more discernably memorable) structured on the same song that Dave wrote.
I think you're right they had a better ear for structure which makes them more palatable for the mainstream. Dave's is faster and looser. And Jame's voice is just more pleasant, he's a good singer while Dave just fits his music but not someone I'd choose to be singer in any other circumstance.
Dave and crew were much more chaotic musically than Metallica. But I do think Rust and Countdown made that much better with the addition of Marty.
But like in my post I believe Dave's goal even when "selling out" what to have more wildness to the music and when he tried differently didn't have it in him like Metallica.
And he didn't have the consistent line up of original members for decades to perfect the structure. It was usually Dave with and the bassist with a rolling cast of other collaborators.
It goes back to the mindset behind both bands. That Metallica were for lack of a better term, the pop boy bands of metal. But knowing how to toe the line before becoming too mainstream, until the 90s when that became more important.
I don't think either is better, even though I vastly prefer Megadeth personally. Just different skillets
You can choose, but never compare.
Countdown To Extinction, Youthanasia, Cryptic Writings, Risk, and Super Collider aren’t thrash records either. Dave was early chasing Metallica’s commercial success on the 90’s post rust in peace records. He certainly re-embraced his thrash roots sooner than Metallica though.
Also for the record let me say I love those records (other than Super Collider).
Al of those outside of risk were more thrash than anything Metallica put out since the black album though. On the whole Metallica’s albums are less heavy and less thrashy than Megadeth’s by a long shot. I loved all of Metallica’s albums up to and including the black album after that I liked some but didn’t love any.
@@fsrsaa No, they weren't "more thrash" than Metallica's output. If you like them more, that's great. But there's nothing thrashy about Cryptic Writings, Youthanasia, etc. Those aren't thrash albums. For every faster riff on a Megadeth album, there's a slow, rockier song like Train of Consequences, A Secret Place, Have Cool, Will Travel, etc. If we're going to go by that standard, then Metallica still had thrash songs on Load/Reload. Might as well call Fuel and Wasting My Hate thrash metal at that point.
@@RisTheGreat29 yes they were, disagree. Train wasn’t a super fast song but it was heavier than the rock sound of load and reload. So was victory and reckoning day. I guess the definition of thrash is up to debate though.
Countdown is still very Thrash and doesn't belong on your list. I agree on Youthanasia and Cryptic Writings.
2:46 had me howling with laughter, just the delivery and the randomness of the analogy was perfect
There is no reason to diss either band or the people in them, both have really good albums and really talented/influential musicians. They are all legends. Both can still be awesome without one being better.
That's the conclusion of vid dude. Glad you watched the whole things hahah
@SkyNet General are you talking about the "masters of plagiarism" video?
@SkyNet General I don't see it
That´s true. But it´s obvious that Megadeth is better. Not hating Metallica tho.
Everything after the black album sucks ass!!!
I've been saying this for years. Thank you! I whole hearted agree. No comparison with Metallica. Megadeth is the greatest thrash metal band ever ..
SLAYER \m/
Metallica is literally way more successful.
When it comes to money, despite having so many more albums, megadeth L
Agree. Greatest “thrash” band. With Metallica being the greatest band ever.
@@Nonon471yeah because their music in comparison to megadeth is so much more mainstream and basic just because they sell more records doesn’t at all mean they are better Metallica is just not very good anymore
When you're right, you're right. Dave lost a battle but won the war. All hail MegadavE 🤘
Megadeth is the best thrash band ever with the best metal record oat and Dave is sure an icon
Megadeth isn't thrash anymore, they're heavy metal
No?
@@truthhurts79 They have always been thrash...
@@thesabbath483 it's obvious you don't know what organic Thrash is... No more Mr Nice guy is bubble gum metal, sweating bullets hello me meet the real me is definitely not thrash... Mary Jane, 502, and the new album definitely isn't thrash... Risk breadline sounds like nickel back 🤣😂 I suggest you listen to Exodus bonded by blood,anthrax spreading the disease and among the living, Overkill feel the fire and taking over, Forbidden forbidden evil,all of slayers albums and the 1st 4 Metallica albums if you wanna know what TRUE thrash sounds like
@@truthhurts79 All the bands you listed I already listened to. I perfectly know what thrash is, you obviously don't. There's no such thing as ," oRgAnIc tHRaSh ". You don't need to play fast, or even mid-tempo, to play thrash. Thrash is about violence, agression, threatening, all these feelings you can feel in slow/mid-tempo thrash.
Listen to the intro to Jesus Saves by Slayer, or The Right to Go Insane, by Megadeth, for example.
I’d like to engage a subdebate on this topic: Kirk is a good guitar player, but Dave, Kiko, Marty, and Chris are all GREAT guitar players. Other commenters, I want hear what you have to say on this! But here are some of my arguments as to why I think Kirk is only a “good” guitarist:
-Some tracks on Kill ‘Em All had to be slowed down because Kirk couldn’t play Dave’s leads fast enough to keep up with the originally intended recording speed.
-Kirk had some great solos from Ride the Lightning through And Justice for All, but I’ve always quietly wondered how much of that was Cliff (the music theory guru in Metallica) helping Kirk develop as a lead player behind the scenes. [Even though he was deceased before it was recorded, Cliff had writing credits on some stuff on AJFA. He was, therefore, involved with composing its tracks to some extent.]
-Suddenly on the Black Album, Kirk gets lazy. Bob Rock consistently has to push Kirk to think outside the box, use more than just a handful of the same old scales to craft his solos, and actually PRACTICE before he comes in to record.
-No remarkable leads from Load or Reload. No solos at all on St. Anger (YIKES).
-Cue the wah pedal, which has become synonymous with Kirk’s name and brand. Plenty of that all over his solos on Death Magnetic and Hardwired, which had some decent leads, but they were by no means on par with what Kirk was doing in the 80s.
-Add in the increasing number of live performances where Kirk can’t hit the notes on his old solos.
-Oh, and lest we forget the “I had 200 new riffs recorded on my iPhone to contribute to upcoming albums, but I left the phone in a taxi cab, and it was stolen” story Kirk told a few years ago.
-Finish with Kirk’s recent solo release Portals, which was the most middle-of-the-road set of instrumentals I think I’ve ever heard.
Conclusion: Kirk is a good lead player, but not a great one. Less likely because of a talent deficit, and more likely (I think) because he isn’t self-motivated to push the boundaries and write innovative leads the way Dave, Kiko, Marty, and Chris all are. Chris was know for infusing jazz scales into his Megadeth leads; he was a prolific jazz guitarist before joining Megadeth. Marty needs no introduction; he has been known to fuse Eastern, Western, and neoclassical styles in his leads on his solo albums and Megadeth contributions. Kiko is a talented technical player and, like Chris, incorporates elements of jazz fusion into his Megadeth playing. And Dave, well, is Dave. The guy can shred.
Kirk, meanwhile, was a guy who was in the right place at the right time to get picked up by Metallica because Dave couldn’t control himself. He’s no Cliff, and he’s no Dave, but he’s made it this far with Metallica because he’s a good guitar player, and his personality is the PERFECT fit for the band. Kirk’s laid back, go with the flow, and gentle demeanor is the ideal counterbalance to James and Lars’ aggression (often aimed at each other). Add Dave in there, and that was just way too much combustibility in one band for it ever to succeed.
You can say the same about Lars. If you believe what people say, he was about to get fired when Cliff died. His live performances up until the early 90's were great, but he's never been a dynamic drummer. Since then it feels like he lost ambition to improve or even maintain his skill and you can see this in all the Lars fail videos all over UA-cam. He's just become a meme at this point.
@@emmanuelcalderon1982 I would absolutely say the same about Lars! He just seems to have some sort of immunity to being ejected from the band despite his subpar drumming skills. Imagine if, in late 1982, James had kicked Lars out and kept Dave in the band (after sending him to rehab and saying “if you don’t get clean, you’re out”). Dave comes out in spring ‘83, just in time to record on KEA, and holy moly would we have had one heck of a metal record there…
On Kirk's ability as a guitarist, there was a lot of talk on how good Hardwired... Was on its release, but when I listened to the first four/five tracks, I felt I'd heard Kirk's solos before, and it wasn't until I listened to Load again, that it seemed he'd simply lifted some of the solo's from Load, and stuck them on the album Hardwired...
You said IT, but not nearly enough accolades about Dave and Marty! Haha! Take care and God Rules!
I agree. Even Eddie Trunk said himself, "Megadeth has a much better total body of work/discography than Metallica" and I totally like both! But it is what it is...
You write like Eddie Trunk is some kind of authority in Heavy Metal, he's not even a musician. XD
@@RGK93 He's sure not. But he's more involved in the industry and more knowledgeable of it than you I don't dare to say.
Eddie Trunk sucks.
@@crashcarter5150Well it appears he’s a moron because Deth only has two albums worth giving a shit about. The other ones are for megaponies who listen to cope for the sake of it.
Eddie Trunk is a douchebag. Megadeth and Dave are beyond the best thrash band ever.
I totally agree with this assessment! Megadeth's technicality and skill has ALWAYS surpassed that of Metallica.
@@swampcrypt Following music theory there is way more beauty in the chords and melodies of megadeth songs over metallica, So I'd say they win that as well.
Growing up in the the 80s listening to the hair metal but when I got peace sells , I knew it was the band for me . Though I lost track of them in the 90s , I recently started again with all metal around 2017 , I can’t believe I missed out on all these years
This guy could narrate a stamp collection documentary and make it sound cool😂
I had the honor of meeting Dave mustaine one time in New Hampshire at the Verizon center in manchester. I was taking my son to see his very first concert and of course it was Megadeth when I had the opportunity to run past the guards and the security with my son to be the last person in line to get to have an autographed copy of the greatest hits album by the lineup at the time. And get to meet Dave mustaine himself. Absolute great guy. Talk to him for a few minutes because I was the last one. The rest of the band was fantastic they did just about everything but come out and line up for a picture for me and my kid. My son was very impressed. Then we went to go see the concert. And he was floored. That was probably one of the greatest moments of my life right there next to meeting Ozzy osbourne. Merry Christmas to everyone out there.
Metallica is Mega-Dave’s ex wife…. I love Metallica up to Justice, even though it STILL needs a professional to mix it, but Megadeth is still the thrash I crave!
DAVE IS THE GOD OF THRASH METAL!
Yea you're right megadeth and metallica aren't in the same ballpark, Megadeth is now and always has been a better band on every level
Sales: metallica.
Songs that hold up decades after being released: Megadeth
I was a total fan of the 3 first METALLICA LP.
Several years after, I discovered MEGADETH and to be honest, I find their stuff more technical, melodic and the 16 LP are more consistant.
Mustaine, Poland, Friedman, Kiko, Ellefson, Verbeuren ... They're all top musicians. Mustaine, fears nobody and choose the best players for his band !
Verbeuren is a top drummer and Lars is .... ??? And Mustaine can compete with Hetfield and crash Kirk (and I appreciate him a lot) !
Why not go straight from metallica to suffocation, animals as leaders, periphery, meshuggah etc though.
Rust in peace all holds as a favorite to listen to from beginning to end.
You know I'm pretty convinced that Dave was the member in Metallica that created the whole Speed Metal/Thrash Metal idea in the first place.
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Considering how many songs that Metallica had to give Dave writing credits on, because they kept using his riffs, I would agree.
@@Ando2k10 really? He had 6 writing credits out of 18 songs. Some of those credits weren't even for complete songs.
You are 100% correct. Without Dave Metallica would have been a blip on the radar at best.
Dave may only have 6 credits but they are some of the biggest songs of their early career and he shaped the sound
@@wesbates1143 that's rediculous. James (along with Lars) wrote most of Kill Em All. The songs they wrote by themselves were groundbreaking thrash in their own right, and they were perfectly capable of writing a couple more songs if they had to. They were determined from day 1 to make it big and Lars had the drive and connections to make it happen.
Even Dave said himself that they could've gotten a lead guitarist as good as him and they would've been fine.
Thank you for this! I have been trying and failing to say this to metallica fans that persist on saying metallica is the best thrash metal band… they haven’t been thrash for over 30 years. I don’t think they even listen to thrash anymore. I saw a reaction from Kirk and he looked like his brain was gonna explode. Dave’s ability to shred is far beyond what most guitarist can do that are half his age.
I agree with everything besides that last sentence. As far as technical styles go, newer artists are playing way crazier shit than Dave, but they owe it all to the influence from guys before them like dave.
Hqrd dissagree: Death magnetic is pretty epic: That was just your life, my apocalypse, All nightmare long. Those songs are awesome: fast, groovy, cool...
Megadeth has been phoning it in since 1994 dude, their sound has been the same. What do you mean Dave has been consistently pioneering.
"Released thrash albums all thru the 90's" No, those weren't thrash. Megadeth toned it down also, just like every other metal band from the 80's. Just because it's thrash doesn't mean it's good, either
Couldn't agree with you more. Still there'll always be some who'd disagree. But the truth is that they just can't separate the talent from the person.
Dave should definitely take credit for his work in kill em all but metallica would 100% have made it without his influence.
"All hail Megadeth. All hail Dave mustaine." Couldn't agree more :)
Megadeth rulez for life!
Old school Metallica ruled from my Day Megadeth has hand's down!!! Surpassed them!!!
Never argue taste. Both bands are in the same elite thrash metal pantheon.
Perfectly articulated. Thank you for this!
There are parallels to be drawn with Megadeth and Metallica in the 90's, though. They both more aggressively pursued a more commercial sound. Obviously Megadeth followed Metallica's footsteps with "Countdown To Extinction" in many ways, and went further commercial with the 3 subsequent albums, with "Risk" being arguably more commercially focused than either "Load" or "ReLoad" in many ways. Starting with "The World Needs A Hero" in 2001, however, the band has made a more concerted effort to blend their thrash roots with the more commercial leanings of "Countdown" or "Youthanasia" (both awesome records) for a sound that is a good pastiche of their overall sound, while Metallica post-Load has been on a mission trying to find their sound again, which they've arguably done with "Death Magnetic" forward, in a similar fashion where they're bringing in older thrash elements and combining that with a more groove-oriented sound they started with the Load/ReLoad pairing, and emphasizing more hard rock arrangements and song structures, whereas Dave and company flex a bit more of that thrash muscle, particularly on records like "United Abominations" or "Dystopia", for example. So while I don't think the 2 bands sound that similar now, and even in the 90's their styles diverged somewhat, it's hard to argue that they didn't take similar paths in terms of vying for commercial appeal, and softening their sound to a degree to broaden their appeal, and never quite returning to the sound that started them out in the first place.
The demo with Dave playing killem all is unbelievable if you heard it.
Both great bands, love to see them tour together
Megadeth has been one of my favorite bands since '92
LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK, PLEASE! This is freaking spot on, no comparison. Megadeth deserves so much more attention than they have ever had! Hopefully the new album & fact that Metalica hasn't realesed anything in 6 years should shine a lil more light on this subject. Just rember Dave wrote um all \m/ & kept writing new music through his cancer treatment.
Yea he wrote all megadeth stuff and 4 subpar songs in Metallica.
I agree they deserved more limelight but they don't have to destroy another bands legacy to get it, that's just desperate publicity
@@deletedhero5579 subpar? Lol what do you think are the best metallica songs?
@@jakebergen1837 Everyrhing on their first 4 albums except jump in the fire, phantom lord, metal militia, escape and eye of the beholder.
So that's the 3 songs Dave wrote.
He helped write four horsemen, ride the lightning and call of ktulu and their good but he didn't write those alone
Megadeth only has 2 good albums. The rest of their piece of shit discography can be disregarded.
100% Agree. I like most grew up Metalica fans and we honestly hated Megadeth because Dave was kicked out so as fans we didn’t even give him a chance. Then I attended a New Years party in the Hollywood Hills and they had metal playing but I didn’t know who the band was but I was blown away by the sick guitar work in the song which wound up being Holy Wars, then another song played and another so I asked the dude throwing the party who that was. He said dude are you serious that’s Megadeth. I was like fucken shit seriously. And he said yea but just don’t ask for Metalica songs. He was playing the Rust in Peace album. We partied for 3 days and when I was leaving my friend grabbed me and gave me the Rust in Peace CD and the rest was history. This was back in 1997 on new years. For years I was missing out because we thought we was supposed to hate Megadeth.
I know, right? This is the premise of most Mewtallica fans. They were hooked, and are fine with cliche riffs and message, after Justice fer all....
Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman and Michael Sweet inspired me to play guitar, metal at that.
I prefer Metallica's discography
But Rust in Peace and Peace Sells are just absolutely nuts. Rust In Peace might be the Greatest display of badass Guitar Work ever
There's one major difference between the two. Megadeth is an enthusiast band, anyone outside of the metal scene doesn't know about them period. Metallica is a mainstream band, and has been since the 90s and they are more mainstream today than they ever have been. Metalheads respect Mustane due to his incredible talent and love for metal. Whereas we hate Metallica for becoming the exact opposite of what metal (and punk respectively) promotes. It's music that goes against mainstream media so for Metallica to become what they were once against really says it all....
Stupids metalhead hate Metallica. Even the other bands from SF (Slayer, Testament and even Megadeth) respect Metallica.
We're no punks tho. We're metalheads for the music and Metallica's reload and St anger was terrible yes but Metallica, load, death magnetic and hardwired is albums that are solid works of metal. Load is more traditional metal. Hardwired and death magnetic is closer to death metal mixed with power metal. Metallica always been a power metal band don't let the first 3 albums confuse you.
@@OriginalKingRichTv St.Anger is a great album much heavier than all that Megadeth did.Do you know what power metal is at all? Metallica didn`t play power metal ever.
@@spiritinblack370 I don't think Metallica is power metal, but Kill 'Em All was labeled as power metal in the 80s
Metallica is mainstream because they’re simply better. Megadeth has like three good songs. Mustaine’s voice is hard to listen to. Also how many band members has Dave gone through? The mainstream wanted Metallica because they have better songs. Metallica is also true artists, they knew they could just keep making the same shit for fans and that would be selling out. Metallica wanted to expand their music and grow
I loved this so much, & agree on all counts. Metallica's early work - everything through "And Justice for All" (very much including the $5.98 ep) - was absolutely brilliant, and the Black album has to be respected. But at this point they've racked up just as many bad albums than good ones overall.
Megadeth on the other hand had only two real stumbling blocks for me personally - "Cryptic Writings" & "Risk" - and both of those efforts were still miles better than anything Metallica released during the same period.
So yes, in the end...
All hail Megadeth. All hail Dave Mustaine. 🤘
Yes indeed. I do concur.
If Load and Reload were one album with filler removed, it would be an amazing Hard Rock album
Hell yeah
Cryptic writings did give us the disintigrators which is a badass tune. And I personally like trust alot as well.
@@jbellflower83 Trust and She wolf are great songs too
I have to admit that I loved both of them, the rivalry was great, because it gave the metal aficionados some great material to listen to.
Fair statements all around, can I just say this, Megadeth sold 36 million albums total, the Black Album sold 31 million alone, just found that fact incredible
Here comes Again: Megadaves " Mustaine is The superior human worldwide"
And this what I've been telling people all along and exactly what I think as of the new single.
The way you narrate this at the beginning it makes it sound like Dave left after Ride the lightning in 1985.
No it doesn't.
The World Needs A Hero was the fatal blow in the “Rivalry”…the return to thrash was evident in that album.
much thanks to Al Pitrelli and Jimmy DeGrasso
@@dj8 no doubt the Pitrelli solos are amazing
Megadeth has always been the better out of the 2. Hell, from what I’ve heard from the new Megadeth album it sounds pretty damn good
New Megadeth fkin RIPS HARD!!! The album is going to be insane!
metallicaca, has always slow, I guess their fans call it thrash till MEGADETH CAME TO OVERPOWER THE SLOW MOTION SOUND OF metallicaca, MEGADETH ALWAYS RULES
They’ve never been better. They have their moments but their shit is pretty weak.
I love Metallica. They're my first true love and metal. That said, I have to say that Megadeth is twice the band. Even with Robert on bass. Kiko hands Kirk's heart to him in a competition. Kirk can't hold kiko's jock. James is legendary but then again so is Dave.
I would say that Metallica hasn't really improved in the last 20-30 years. Dave's song writing and riffs keep improving and it's not just studio magic, I've seen him live multiple times in the last decade. James and Rob are both talented, but Kirk hasn't really improved as a lead player and Lars has become a meme. It just feels to me like Metallica has just lost ambition after the Black Album.
Dave would hand it to kirk in competition too, it's not even close.
Yes he can dummy
@@emmanuelcalderon1982 yes he has dummy, like you can play it better
Being significantly better than Kirk Hammett, Kiko Loureiro is not as historic. The real comparison should be with Chris Poland and Marty Friedman, and I believe it is still clear they are both better than Kirk Hammet..
Than again, as frontmen, just as frontmen, Hetfield is a far better singer than Mustaine, both live and in studio.
What song plays at the very end?
Watching this video feels like reading the opinion section of a newspaper.
This is really accurate.We never called it Metal back then it was called Thrash.
Exactly. We called Priest and Maiden metal.
That’s funny because the original title of “Kill ‘em All” was “Metal Up Your Ass”
right on!
You know I always thought that one question for a long time: If you are a musician and you started with a type of music style (let's say thrash metal in this case) are you not allowed to play anything else in your life?
I am a big Metallica fan, but also love Megadeth but it's just a fact that they BOTH changed there sound after there first 5 albums (The Black Album and Countdown to Extinction).
Load = Youthanasia
ReLoad = Cryptic Writings
Than there is St. Anger probably the biggest MEME album in the history of Metal
And than there is RISK probably one of the "popiest" albums in the history of Metal
Sure Megadeth has now 16 albums(with the new one)
And Metallica has 10 albums but let's be honest:
How many times do you listen Megadeth songs from the time period: Youthanasia - Super Collider? Sure i listened trough the whole discography of Megadeth and I like most of it. But I also think that we listen way more to there classic albums like Peace Sells and Rust in Peace. Same case with Metallica btw.
Just wanted to say that hope you understood what I mean cuz english is not my mother tounge😅😁
Anyway just listen to the music you like and enjoy it😎
I'm a big fan of all megadeths new albums. Been listening to end game. Just because you don't. I get what you're saying though. That really applies to metallica though. Metallica first 4 are what most people I know will listen too. Metallicas albums after black aren't bad by any means, actually they are good, they just are a much different thing so that would either attract a completely new audience or people that also enjoy rock and thrash. Megadeth no matter what album still atheist had some thrash element to it but they went right back to full out THRASH. Metallica might soon follow seeing the rise in old and even the new generation getting super big into old school stuff like thrash metal and extreme sports like skateboarding and all that good stuff. It's all making a BIG comeback
I thoroughly enjoy all the Megadeth albums, been jamming TWNAH
Risk = Load
I listen to everything in megadeth’s discography equally, Endgame is one of my favorite megadeth records and youthanasia as well! There’s a lot to love in megadeth post countdown to extinction!
Youthanasia is a very good album, one of my favorites. But if I listen to Endgame or super collider more, no
lol I remember buying Load, speeding home to play it, tearing open the wrapper, feeling my heart sink when I saw their short hair and the crushing disappointment after playing it through. It was a toss up for me until then, but afterwards Megadeth was king, Mustaine never stopped being metal, even if they sometimes drifted away from thrash.
😂🤣😂👍i hear you!
Correction - The four horsemen is a version of The mechanix
Nope
@@RAWMUSICTV Yes !!! Seriously? !!! It was the mechanix on no life till leather , it was adapted to become the four horsemen at the tail end of daves tenure! Know your shit mate !
It's the same song.
@@RAWMUSICTV the mechanix was the original song , it was adapted , the lyrics are totally different there’s an extension to the song in the middle eighth . Take the L .
Same song. Thanks for playing. Better luck next time.
Dave wrote Mechanix! It was his creation! Metallica put it on Kill Em All without Daves blessing...
He got his credit, look at the liner notes
they changed the lyrics and slowed it down because it sounded like crap. that's reality. plus Dave CO WRITE it
Mechanix is way better. All the way
Dave brought the song to Metallica from his previous band Panic, they slowed it down because of Lars complaining and Dave literally threw the Lynard Skyard bit in to mock him, it was Daves song
@@tonygunk6795 Did he get paid, though? Doubtful.
Mustaine isn't a full on shredder but he is one of my all time favorite lead guitarists. His leads are really eerie sounding. 🤘🏻
Hi, is this where I sign up for the Dave Mustaine support group for butthurt also rans?
Yes.
First 3 maybe 4 LPs I was more mettalica but it changed over the decades. Both were my #1 & #2 they would trade back n forth but time broke it hard in 1 direction Dave s Megadeth has even take the #1 of all time from Judas Priest . I even love Dave's vocal style over James it's so unique and fitting. My clan always fought mettalica no Megadeth
Mechanix was completely Dave's song, it's on the No Life Till Leather demo tape sung by James with the original Mechanix lyrics. Metallica changed the lyrics and the speed after firing Dave. The same is true for Jump In The Fire.
but the four horsemen is like 10 times better
@@burkie7why?
@@silversteel6891 better lyrics and riffs
@@burkie7riffs are the same dude. It's the same song, only the palm muting techniques and the sweet home Alabama has been added. Lyrics give a slight edge, but how does that make it 10 times better than Mechanix?
Mechanix has actual thrash speed, jaw breaking solo along with killer drums. The four horsemen has just lyrics, nothing else.
@@silversteel6891 it depends what your into really but musically, horsemen is the better track. catchier vocals, easier to listen too, and just better in general like you don’t gotta hear daves annoying voice
Love your commentary, and documentaries on Megadeth. 100% agree with them. Only one bitter thing is that Marty's decided to go his way, which is a real loss to the band. He was (and still is) a guitar virtuoso. Basically, his solos fall into "outstanding," and "amazing" categories.
One question though: where are you from? I can't identify your accent.
Love them both! Don’t need to choose. They both had some weak records in the 90’s. St. Anger and Risk are two records I’ve tried to like, but can’t. I’ve decided to reframe Load and Reload as Hetfield solo records and that makes them way more enjoyable. None of this changes that they have both made many masterpieces. James and Dave are two of my favourite riff writers of all time. I think both bands have found themselves again in the last 15 years. I’m really excited to hear the next record from both of them. Dave’s two new tracks are amazing.
Consistency is the key that's why Megadeth is what it is today.
In my opinion Megadeth stayed true to their roots and are still kicking butt. However Metallica went from Thrash Metal to Hard Rock. In essence both bands stayed true to who they are. I am a fan of both bands.
I agree but megadeth slowed down somewhat with cryptic writings and youthinasia so far so good so what was mediocre and still were good just saying wasn't thrash and I hate the word thrash I dig rock and every good band I dig is rock
I like both bands as well.megadeath always had better drummers
This is the same old argument like who's better out of maiden or priest to me metallica and megadeth have been there since the beginning both changed and thank God they did that's why they are selling out stadiums cough cough where's slayer
@@richharris9489 unture expect for nick menza
This is the video that needed to be made decades ago.
RUST IN PEACE for me is the crown jewel of thrash.
I never really got into Metallica other than 3 or 4 albums that I recently got into, "Hardwired", "Master of Puppets", "Death Magnetic", 1/2 of "Load" & "Reload" & the first "S & M" album. Megadeth I've enjoyed more of. Both are REALLY good at what they do though, I just prefer the qualities of Megadeth.
Both bands are good. Still good to this day. Depending on what you want to hear on your radio.
Metallica is a joke now
@@nickfanzo if you say so. Lars would say otherwise with his collection of houses and cars
@@johnpaulgarcia6906 fame doesn’t make your band any good. Beyoncé has cars and houses too.
@@nickfanzo so your just saying you don't like the band?
@@johnpaulgarcia6906 like I said, they’re a shadow of their former selves at this point.
Waiting on the rick astley/slayer comparison video
I smashed that like button so had I cracked my phone. Wholeheartedly agree with everything said.
The best thing about Metallica is *Megadeth*
Agreed. But aside from thrash, I personally thing that one of the other true greats in heavy metal is Iron Maiden
When I first discovered Metallica in the late 80's I was like "This IS Great!!!".... Then I discovered Megadeth and was like "WoW, This is better". I've always been a bigger Megadeth fan than Metallica but I play guitar more like Metallica than Megadeth.... skills I say
what's the name of the background song ??
Dave Mustaine was in the #1 thrash band in the world at that time and was kicked out. Dusted himself off and formed the 2nd best thrash band in the world. at that time. I'd say that is pretty impressive.
I love MegAdetH and MetallicA. I love Megadeth more though. Here's the thing, Metallica started off super strong but started to fizzle out after black album ( or And justice for all as far as thrash is considered ) Megadeth just kept getting better. Even After youthinsia Those albums still had hard thrash elements to it. Then they came back full swing to str8 thrash! Metallica needs to jump on board and get back to thier roots because their is a huge comeback in Thrash and all that old-school stuff in general. Look at shows like stranger things to name one. I see younger people too starting embrace the older stuff in skateboarding and all that. I think Dave sees it or just good timing with these last record Dystpia and especially the new album about to be released. I've been going through all their albums the past month. I knowbDave was hurt by what happened but I hope he realizes that happening gave us both and inwouldnt want to love in a world without both. Love Metallica but Long live MegAdetH!!
Megadeth is hands down the best metal band ever!
Black Sabbath, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and yes, Metallica have joined the chat.
Definitely a matter of opinion. Could get 20 different answers from 20 people on that one.
This isn't true, if you see both live..... Megadeth are ass
They’re not even top 20. Overrated as fuck.
@@RGK93Metallica are not even top 15 in thrash, relax.
1:53 How did you calculate that? Horsemen is appr. 207 bpm and Mechanix appr. 258 bpm! If 3 times as fast Mechanix would be grindcore tempo!
3:33... as a journalist, you dropped the GAWDDAMN BALL!!!!
neither was the previous LP.
Load and the leftovers were dsted in a time like Mötleys Corabi LP. Wrong place and wrong time.
A lil boy from Aberdeen did that because the world was ready for that noise!
Dr.John said "Right place... wrong time"
NOPE!
gold!!!
Both bands are great, both have lots of mediocre to bad material. But Dave is a true bandleader not afraid to surround himself with an evolving cast of stellar musicians. And Dave’s a great rhythm player, not a super great soloist
Better soloist than kirk lol.
But I'm really not a fan of Kirk's leads at all. James writes and plays all the good tallica solos.
Especially black album on, kirk just wah pedals and minor pentatonics. It's hard to believe he's joe satrianis student for how truly middling he is.
And, he's singing and rythm playing, and songwriting ...and soloing and hiring the best musicians without fearing to play with Poland, Firedman, kiko ...
And he admits it and lives in reality and not like this baby metal omg is not a perfect joke 😮
kirk solo's rings around dave lol@@jakebergen1837
I just listened to their new song and you were right!! Still thrashing!!! I am a Metallica fan too, but they definitely strayed far from their thrash roots where Megadeth did not....and I absolutely hated Lars's snare on St. Anger too!!! Who told him that sounded good???? Lol...
“In my opinion, which is the right opinion” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Learning to play guitar I got fade to black and master of puppets down at age 15 in 1986-87 but could not do Dave Mustaine at that time.
I've seen Megadeth numerous times, and I've seen Metallica a few times! The fact that Megadeth and Metallica both had one constant....Dave Mustaine!! Enough said!