The Awful PVRIS Situation
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2024
- PVRIS guitarist Alex Babinski was let go by the band in 2020. For years, Babinski has been working to clear his name. Now, the former PVRIS guitarist has a shocking update.
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0:00 What happened with PVRIS?
1:27 Why PVRIS fired Alex Babinski
2:11 Alex Babinski's shocking statement
4:50 Should PVRIS apologize? - Розваги
“That’s exactly why you shouldn’t make employment decisions based on unproven social media allegations.” louder for the people in the back
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I just don't understand why people keep believing these women with no proof whatsoever, after the world watched what happened to Johnny Depp.. when will history NOT repeat itself?
People are terrified of being cancelled by society which is why it's so easy to throw someone under the bus based only on allegations. Blame society.
@@ville666sora Society is made up of people and now most people are too weak minded. People are to blame.
so, for how long will Kea Romani go to jail for exactly? Not at all? System works perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
We live in a "guilty by accusation" era. It's freaking sad.
100%
That's crazy what happens when the believe all women garbage comes out and the me to movement did nothing but spread false accusations and everybody believed it. That's the society we lived in. Because people enable this kind of behavior and if a woman says something that must make it automatically true. It's disgusting and the accusers who falsely accused men of awful things should honestly face the imprisonment in time that a man would have faced had he been found guilty.
When so many high-profile people like DJT flaunt their crimes in public, yes… it makes sense. Either way, poor Alex. I hope he gets back to where he was
@@StarTrek85we have due process here
I’m going to play devils advocate a bit here: It’s unfortunate that Alex has had to go through all this and yes Pvris should definitely issue an apology and should he want to have his old spot back it should be given back to him with the proof of his innocence. BUT what they did was the survival of the band pure and simple, Pvris aren’t some bulletproof known to the world band and having one of the members be an accused rapist (even if proved to be slander now) would have killed any chance of shows, albums or anything else they may have wished to work on. By standing by Alex publicly Lynn and Brain would have been unable to support themselves financially (at the end of the day making music is their job) and likely never would have been able to make music again and if they did the murmurs of “that person supports rapists” would have followed them forever.
The argument “they should have stood by him” is easy to say when you’re not the one faced with the possibility of not being able to feed, clothe and shelter yourself because you as a band/artist is blacklisted for bad publicity, bigger celebrities have been brought down by this.
I get what you’re saying and in the end it’s what makes them look good or professional.. although they could have spoken with him privately and have him suspended from the band until the case was fully resolved. I think they were quick to jump the gun. They could have stood by him and let the public know that no further action will be taken until the case had been settled.
Totally agree.
@@johnbotelho3453 unfortunately we live in a society where that would be seen as a half measure and would have had the same outcome that if they did nothing, much like the whole issue of people being guilty until proven innocent in the public eye now if you don’t do enough to satisfy the mob then you may as well do nothing because they still going to metaphorically crucify you for it. They kick him out the band can easily just say “we ditched him, not our problem” but suspending him just ends up with everyone demanding they be kicked out anyway and you still end up with the negative press your band is trying to avoid: ragebait articles, propaganda and protesting outside of venues because you’re seen to be sympathetic to an accused rapist (yet again proven false now) and much like people who are accused of these sorts of crimes (people proven innocent, the ones who are proven guilty should be tossed onto a remote island away from the rest of us personally speaking) it doesn’t matter how long or how far you’ve moved away from them there’s always going to be people who believe you did it or in the case of the band that you endorse that sort of behaviour, basically a death sentence to their careers that are pretty much completely based on public opinion.
This is the only right take 💯
I stopped listening to Pvris when Alex was told to leave. Shame on the members for not standing up for him. The accuser should be sentenced to prison.
Same here. F Lynn
I hate that people take accusations as fact, why do people not ask questions or exercise reasonable doubt
Right. People that make these false allegations need to be held responsible. It ruins innocent people's lives and it makes actual victims less credible. If they would get punished this wouldn't happen as much.
It blows my mind that people like her are not sentenced to prison. Everyone involved in this case could’ve been working on something serious instead of this bs.
This is a prime example of defamation, which is illegal, he should've sued her
As someone who has a family member that went to jail over false accusations, this absolutely sickens me. I hope Alex is doing better now, and fuck PVRIS for throwing him under the bus.
I have a good friend who had a jilted ex that tried to do the same. Luckily he had enough good people around him to shut her lying ass down. its crazy how many people are ready to grab pitchforks and just think that these types of false allegations never happen.
Super easy to say in hindsight, but I guarantee you didn't give a shit about this story 10 days ago.
@@nolankuffner3573 So?
I have my own life. I can't keep tabs over every false allegation case out there.
What's that gotta do with anything?
@@nolankuffner3573oh look somebody who just wants to argue with strangers on the internet for no reason.
Okay here we go - summer is better than winter!! Beer tastes nasty! Brunettes are better than blondes! Ok, your turn...
@@trophyscene5015 They say not every peepee time is a poopoo time but I argue every time is the perfect poopoo time.
It's honestly disgusting how PVRIS hasn't posted an apology to Alex after the truth came out, but were quick to fire him over allegations
You expect people to accept accountability? In 2024? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@widexawake_yeah, it’s unfortunately an extremely dark world we live in; and it’s only gotten much darker since 2020; and will continue to get darker until ultimately societal collapse and mass extinction.
I'm not sure whats more sad...
- The fact an innocent persons career was ruined over false accusations.
Or...
- The fact that this doesn't surprise me.
"Innocent until proven guilty' isn't the course of action anymore sadly... want to ruin someone's life?
Just accuse them of a sexual crime...
Doesn't really matter if they're guilty or not.
The damage will be done.
He should take legal action against the party or parties that launched these allegations.
He did and he got his name cleared.
@sleepingninjaquiettime he should sue the accuser for defamation and emotional distress, its not like shes gonna apologize and self reflect on how awful of a person she is. Hit her pockets.
@user-tt7rc2cg1o
Agreed.
This is more or less what I was referring to.
If a simple accusation has the power to literally derail someone's life, if that accusation is found to be false - that person should be held financially liable.
Seems there are constantly women making accusations against musicians, sports figures etc.
@@user-tt7rc2cg1oyeah, he should show he isn't a sexual predator.
Just as malicious as she was, like 7 years ago.
Yeah, that'll show people he's a great person who deserves tons of sympathy.
I hate what a witchhunt that the 'MeToo' allegation has become. I don't understand why its so hard for companies and organizations to wait for actual evidence before ruining someone's career.
Because the mob will attack them until the problem is out of the band. The scene is full of whiny people who will bully and harass bands for not agreeing with them. It's disgusting.
@@MrRayGun115because the same mob influences others to spend money on whatever's current and exciting.
And companies see that.
Wouldn't be hard to imagine this band losing their record label and fan support.
Covered by Rockfeed, but they're a very poppy group.
Barely feature any actual instruments.
And that's not new for them.
@@nolankuffner3573 true on some levels. There are also a lot of bands that the mob hate that are currently thriving, perfect example would be FIR and Ronnie Radke. Probably because he is so successful that people could hate his guts and still sell out arenas. It depends on the band and their views and fans.
@@nolankuffner3573yeah if they were to be canceled and never perform again I wouldn't even miss them at this point because only the first two albums were really rock albums, where the true talent could actually be seen and heard. Now Lynn is using auto-tune, and all they use are drum machines and computers - boring!! 💤
And on top of them destroying peoples careers and Lives, all the fake accusations makes it so those who really do experience assault are even more afraid to come forward because whose going to believe them when all these assholes keep making false claims just because they want to try and dismantle someones life?
PVRIS doesn’t deserve him back. I hope he can go on to have a successful career. I really enjoyed the music he made and noticed PVRIS fell off a bit. Now it all makes sense why.
Yeah, I keep seeing people saying they should take him back. But my thinking is why would he want to go back to people who had no faith in him? No way! They don't deserve him.
They threw him under the bus and wrote him off as sexual abuser, and completely cut him out and left him to fend for himself years ago now. The fact that he has managed to clear his name doesn't change how they treated him and showed how he could never rely on or trust them.
No way in hell would he go back to them..
He never wrote anything for Pvris
@@Spermwhales93 didn't say he did. I'm just saying that given how they treated him he wouldn't ever want to go back to them anyway.
Not fan of this band, but I'm sick and tired of musicians get allegations against them, allegations aren't really true! This false allegations against musicians needs to stop, this trend need to stop!
It's more than just musicians
People making false allegations should face justice themselves. Until liars are held accountable for their actions this stupidity will continue. I understand a public group or band wanting to distance themselves, but it should not come of as if they believe he is guilty. They should say they are separating temporarily while allegations are under investigation.
This crap has been going on for far too long. The women who do this need to serve some serious prison time. They completely destroy a man's life, and just walk away with, "Oh, I made the whole thing up. Sorry/not sorry."
These false accusers should be getting prison time. "You ruined his career, and 3 and a half years of his life over this. Now you get 3 and a half years prison time." I bet there would be a lot less of these happening. 🤔
Simple act of an accusation, no matter if false, means you will never be seen the same
I think false accusers should spend as much time in prison as someone who commits those crimes, she might as well have sent Alex to prison because his name will forever be stuck in the mud despite being proven innocent, life is pretty much irreparable for those who are victims of false accusations, some actually do spend time in prison for falsehoods, meanwhile the accusers get off free and the actual victims of sexual harassment are insulted and aren’t being believed.
put her in jail. give him his gig back.
The last thing on his mind is being around those who perpetuated that shit I assure you.
@@Uzielsquibbperpetuated..?
They reacted to a situation.
If you went into your job as a delivery driver, drunk, they wouldn't be like.. well, as long as you don't crash, we're good.
No, they would do something preemptively.
Does it suck for him that it ruined his life? Yeah, 100%.
Would it have been insanely worse if they knew he was accused of sexual assault, booked world tours, sold millions of albums and THEN it turns out "Ooops, sorry. He's a rapist. You just made a rapist a millionaire. Sorry 🤷"
Nah.
Like, you sound smart with the power of retrospect.
But no one just signs one of these without something MAKING it happen.
Like, oh, I don't know.. a settlement.
Like what Vince McMahon just got hit with.
WAS accused, they 'acquitted' him because he WASN'T guilty.
Turns out his lawyer MADE that verdict happen and, oh yeah.
WAS guilty after all.
Guarantee half of the guys "innocent" are actually guilty, but cash talks.
And hey, I'm not saying that's what happened here.
I'm sure this random celebrity is the sweetest human being ever.
But BOTH happen.
And being convinced that a man is actually innocent because someone randomly signed a legal form after years of discourse is a weird way to think.
"Yeah, she just sent me this legal form. See? Even she says I'm innocent! Best 10 grand I ever spent!"
Again, I'm NOT saying that's him.
But BOTH happen, and a lot more than people who only follow the tail end of a story believe.
There is no way in hell he would even want that gig back. They completely turned their backs on him, kicked him out and cut him out of their lives/career. And they issued that statement believeing and supporting his accuser in full even though there was never any evidence whatsoever.
He has been fighting against the accusations for years now. The fact that he finally managed to get the truth out and prove his innocence wouldn't undo the the obliteration they performed on their relationship with him.
I agree the accuser should face serious consequences for false allegations, but the band can also go fuck themselves. He will probably go on to get an even better gig while they fade into obscurity.
they should jail her and pay him his lost wages or compensation of some sort as well as an apology then..
Wow. That's horrible. Poor guy. Hopefully he gets his career back.
His band mates left him after these false allegations? Fn clowns. Wild times we're living in.
I can't imagine how I could go back to a band or friends who believed some random stranger's false allegations about me kicked me tothe curb. I try to be forgiving, but I could never trust those people again. They would never be part of my life again.
They need to at least apologize to him.
Ha, I told you so! It was really cringe when they fired him over allegations, not over proven facts.
You've been waiting three and half years to say that haven't you? Lol
@@darksu6947 yes.
His asshole ex band mates should 100% issue an apology. So should the false accuser for that matter as I see a retraction but no apology...
Ronnie Radke went through this same thing. Then he turned around and went after his accuser and WON A SH$T TON OF $$. Personally I think the lying accusers should face criminal charges. They've ruined someone's life and HAVE TO ATINE for it.
it's sad that a tweet or social media post immediately is taken for truth.
"believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see"
and i stand by that- specially on the internet!
sad that the band sold him down the river over a random accusation hopefully he finds a better band and more importantly finds better friends good luck to him. Its a shame also that the girl will get away with what she has done to him.
How can the girl get away with it? she literally destroyed his life. I'm sure that must be a crime in some way. If the police won't do anything then he needs to sue her.
@@trophyscene5015 I agree she should face jail time and he should be compensated for the loss of earnings and reputation damage it is slander.
If the deal was that she'd sign that statement instead of going to jail, she got off real easy.
Hope he comes back with a new band f**k his old bandsmates its shocking they just kicked him out like that. INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY
Did the accuser ever even say why they made the false accusations? They even posted their retraction of the accusations on their own ig which is weird
She needs to be thrown in jail
if this was the other way around would this still be a problem?
@@BenlovescheeseYes
@@Benlovescheese what kind of question is that
Allegations are just that
You must be new to the internet..
And people wonder why there's a more cynical approach to this stuff nowadays and why you shouldn't believe everyone. Awful to do that to someone and hopefully he sues her and the band for throwing him under the bus without facts only hear say
ok so now he has a counter suit against this person for slander, and libel. thats actual trash when shitty people make false allegations and ruin an innocent persons career.
That’s so sad. What a terrible person to do something so messed up. Also the band should of held off before making a decision of letting him go. Karma is coming for all those involved in ruining this guys life.
Why it is important to treat people as innocent until proven guilty.
A responsibility to protect victims? What about a responsibility to protect your friends and bandmates? Loyalty is dead
Those bandmates weren't standing for justice. They were just being cowards.
K so there's a fair bit i want to say. First and foremost, as a survivor of years of some pretty horrific and violent sexual assaults from the ages of at least 4 (the earliest one i can remember, but there is evidence is started sooner) to about 13 when i was finally big enough to fight off my attacker myself, i am glad that bands are taking allegations such as these seriously. As they absolutely should. HOWEVER, until there is clear cut evidence, they remain just allegations and no one deserves to have their lives ruined over a false allegation. These bands need to stop being so quick on the trigger to release members of their bands, especially people who have otherwise given absolutely no indication they are capable of doing such things or that it's within their character, before real proof is given. I mean even i have known people falsely accused of sexual assault and stood by them even with my history because i knew their character and it did turn out to be false. If me with my history can do that, so can these bands.
I get as bands their income depends on fan support and they need to be aware that not releasing said member may take away support, as well as no good people want to support a rapist or sexual abuser, however there's gotta be another way to do this moving forward otherwise we are going to start seeing the exact opposite reaction from fans, i.e bands will lose support when they do let members go without evidence and that could create some very dangerous situations. Because every action as a reaction, the harder you push one way, the harder it's going to come pushing back. Maybe instead of out and out firing them, a sort of lay of system can be implemented into all bands contracts, where the member is given the time and space they need to fight the legal battle/clear their name and should they clear their name of those allegations then they are brought back into the band should that be something they (the accused) wish. Just an idea. Because we've seen this a few too many times now at this point. It's clearly not going away.
For anyone to make false allegations, they should be charged and sent to prison. Plus, the court needs to challenge. People want money from famous celebrities, its disgusting
Individuals who have ruined artist’s lives and careers like that, on the back of an attention-seeking toxic lie, need to be held absolutely legally accountable for their actions. An artist’s hard-earned career and personal character absolutely shattered. I hope he takes it further in court, in the professional manner he has done up to this point.
And when looking at the other members of PVRIS automatically disassociating with Alex (maybe it was the label, for business-sake - likely was), I hope their fans consider the outcome of this case - when looking at the big picture in terms of where they spend their money going forward.
Happened too many times, this cancel-culture against musicians in the music industry over the last few years, when 99% of the time it takes two to tango in these situations. This though, a blatant one-sided lie unfortunately.
Seen many artists within the music industry over the last few years emotionally and financially torn up because of a bored soft-minded/media-moulded individual(s) with nothing interesting going on in their own life - in terms of these band member allegations.
Yes, 100%, there are definitely incidents when it goes the other way and the gent must absolutely be taken to task for his actions. No doubt.
There need to be more stories like this shared.
With the likes of a Bad Omens and a Sleep Token members now being negatively, privately and personally impacted by bored people like this, I rate the spotlight need to be shone on these types of individuals for a while, be they male or female.
I’m not going to say its ‘unfair’, but what I’m going to say is that in 2024 we’ve come a long way, and rightly so, in working towards equality between ladies and gents. Although still not equal-enough in my eyes, there is a fine balance between managing that equality and letting it swing too far in the other direction (in a toxic sense). It will unfortunately be this way, naturally, in the normal course of a correction in anything, it’s just how we manage it (hopefully privately and professionally), like Alex has done here.
Anyways, thats my 2cents which means absolutely nothing to the universe, but it’s an equal playing field now and band members who have been falsely accused like this (be they lady or gent) need to push back with an equal and opposite force from now on. A shame that it’s the 0.0000001% that ruin it for the rest of the real fans and falsely-accused in question.
Too many bored and entitled people in 2024.
Thanks for what you do, Rock Feed. This was an important video to post. Appreciated.
Great video. Sad story i feel for him. Wishing him luck.
Absolute BS!! These people that do this need to be charged with the same penalty they falsely accuse other's of
Taking someones career away and virtue signaling over false sexual allegations is the lowest. They owe Alex an apology at the very least.
I really hope that the next step Alex will sue Pvris for firing him for no good reason and with the money he receives he will be able to create another band or project. In any case, without Alex's guitar parts, Pvris turned into another soulless electronic pop project.
Actually, when Lynn excluded their bassist Brian from the band's line-up last year and made him just a "hired gun" on a salary, and made Pvris her solo project, I even began to suspect that maybe she organized that setup against Alex to seize power in the band.
I think there are two sides to this discussion, and people don't like hearing from the other side entirely because of HOW they are being empathetic.
If you want to stand up for victims of sexual assault and abuse, it's almost certainly because there's enough of it out there that's heartbreaking enough, and hell, you might know somebody who was assaulted/abused. So it's easier to say, "Nobody wants to believe, or turns a blind eye, so I'd rather believe the victim than wait to find the assaulter."
And on the OTHER side, it's more "but what if they're lying, and the real victim is the person who was accused?" And that's the sad thing... like, the ACTUAL answer to this issue isn't JUST to "wait for the evidence", it's to have a more nuanced approach... and to UNDERSTAND that people who have knee-jerk reactions to avoid sexual abuse accusations is because they don't want to hurt a victim... AND THEN, when innocence is proven, to put things right... OR - if the knee-jerk reaction is to have that person's back, for everyone to understand, "They're trying to take the more legal route and trust their friend, and then take action when necessary."
Otherwise, you just have a third option, which is, "the standard protocol is to always seperate the bad-egg from the band, and realign when the results are in."
It's a very emotional topic. People have strong opinions. I don't think anyone is wrong for saying the band should have had Alex's back... but I also understand - just as he said himself - why the band parted with him.
It’s a lose lose situation. If it was reversed and he got to stay in the band and then was proven guilty of the allegations people would jump on the band for “defending/enabling his behavior”. Or if he stayed in the band and was proven innocent people would’ve hated on them until his innocence was proven. And then there would still be that stigma around the band that would push fans away. Regardless it’s really unfortunate what happened but now that his name is cleared I could see other big bands wanting him to join them.
Ppl that make false accusations need to go to prison. They can steal someones whole life without ever having to prove anything.
I think that PVRIS absolutely should bring him back and apologize publicly. They were supposed to be his friend and like a brother to them. Because of his work, they've had success and they owe him that. But, that is if he even wants to be in that band again.
We've seen this many times in the music industry where people get accused of things that never happened and I'm not saying that everyone of them that gets accused is innocent, but this particular event is definitely an eye opener that needs to have awareness brought to it.
I had a family member that once accused my father of doing inappropriate things to her and consequently he was investigated for it by the police and when asked, I told the truth, my father was never the kind of person to do something inappropriate and other siblings also backed up those claims. The case was thankfully dropped. This kind of thing happens against men all the time unfortunately. As a musician, it makes me scared to be in a band, I don't want it to happen to me, and I'm also scared to be around women that I'm not already familiar with because of how often this shit happens.
I do stand with the victims of sexual misconduct and sexual abuse, but I don't believe in someone being guilty until they are proven guilty.
Bands need to stand together and stand by their bandmates until clarification is given. I'm getting tired of bands dropping people over this kind of thing without them actually knowing if its real or not.
Aiden Ellaz is another example of this, the old singer from Alpha Wolf. I don't know if all of the claims were cleared but the ones about the sexual abuse stuff were proven to be false, yet he had his name slandered hard and Dealer was shutdown quickly because of it and even after he was proven innocent, the band Dealer returned but from what I've seen, are unable to garnish much attention anymore.
When will it ever be enough.
That's awful. Even if the band wanted to take him back..I imagine he wouldn't cause he probably feels so betrayed.
seems like they wanted him gone anyway
Thank you for the update!
Would be interested in a video of the you me at six break up
PVRIS used to be freaking amazing. First two records are absolutely wonderful but nowadays I just don’t have a single positive thing to say about their recent records. They’re just…not the same. I would love for them to call him back and they make music again more akin to their second record.
The quote to actually use is "Innocent until proven guilty". False accusers, if verified legally at any future date, should face criminal charges and/or prison sentences because they can and do utterly destroy people's lives, like Alex's here.
I started a band that I have always wanted to start. Chasing my dreams seemed to be perfect for me in this moment because I am a little older and have the means and money to get off the ground. That being said, I honestly don't know if I would ever want to take off now because you never know what a little fame can do to your health these days. It's sad as fuck and makes me feel discouraged. People suck and are evil beyond belief.
This has happened to multiple people lately. The Duke Lacrosse was the first high profile case, then you had a NFL punter. Convington...
This all blew up two days before their new album at the time dropped. I always thought that was highly suspicious...
Me too movement … caused all this bull shit
The problem with situations like this is that PVRIS would have suffered as a group if they had kept him on at the time of the accusations. Sure, they could have stuck up and stood behind him, but a lot of the audience would have seen that as them covering for an abuser, which looks really bad. The court of public opinion doesn't necessarily care about the truth, only the perception of it. They didn't really have a choice but to remove him if they wanted to continue.
Now that the dust has settled on this situation and we know the truth. It reflects poorly on them in retrospect, which sucks for everyone because most likely this isn't going to change the fact that Alex is out of the job, and that PVRIS looks bad for making (arguably) the right decision at the time with where they were at in their careers.
I only wonder why would someone ruin other people's lives for no reason like that!
Never heard of them
She’s not in prison?
Pvris hasn’t made a good record since that first record.
The accuser should do jail time/fines for mental/financial demage the caused.
At this point, it would be a disservice for Alex *not* to legally go after his accuser and everyone who slandered his name.
The reason people keep doing this is because false accusers are never held accountable. Start imprisoning demonstrably false accusers and we’ll see a dramatic drop in false allegations.
It's really easy to get mad at the band, but from their perspective, they would have been vilified by hive minded mob for not axing him. Which means no record deal, no tours/shows, no merch sales, they would have collectively all floundered financially just for covering his ass. It would have been career suicide for all of them. I'm not saying they morally did the right thing but i imagine being in a band that's starting to taste success after years of hard work and dedication just to see it go up in flames... They just cut him off to try to give themselves a chance. Lorna Shore did the same thing when their first big hit "Immortal" came out with their previous vocalist CJ Mcreary, whose allegations were also proven false (the SA ones, anyway).
She should be in jail
Totally off topic, but i went to school with Tyson Forrester so it’s very odd to see his name trending on twitter haha.
Btw, thank you for this video!
I hope Alex is doing better now.
Well shit, if only he had his supporting bandmates to have his back but apparently they aren't friends. What a shame, and Im happy I decided not to see PVRIS live when i had the chance.
IMO someone found to be falsely accusing a person of a crime should face the same punishment that the accused would have faced if they actually did it. The girl in this case walks away with absolutely zero repercussions while Alex still has his career and reputation permanently damaged regardless of the fact that he has legal documentation ostensibly proving his innocence. Taking allegations seriously is an absolute must, but no one should blindly believing OR dismissing the accuser. Shitty situation all around, and I hope Alex can find some way to gain back those lost years.
This is sad. Apologies should be from PVRIS
God this is why I hate PVRIS as a band. They were just as shitty before they blew up.
This is horrifying. I’m so sorry Alex.
Thank you for reporting on this most ppl don’t say anything after someone is falsely accused and there name is forever tarnished. Let’s hope this helps
In this world of guilty until proven innocent even if someone is found innocent the damage is already done and the verdict is always under reported.
Horrific.
If I were Alex, I would never go back to a group of people who found it that easy to discard me in the first place. He should do his own thing, and while he's at it, sue the living crap out of his accuser and take every penny she has.
I believe the same with Marilyn Manson. He’s easy to accuse because of his stage character
So sad. I remember when it first went down. I hope he’s able to find a new band and come ROARING back…
It's really bad of them not to acknowledege and at least appologize. I just saw Pvris in Warsaw, Poland two weeks ago, They played well and Lynn looked reeally good. However, their carieer also suffered following Alex departure. I was actually wondering does it make any financal sense to come all theway from Boston to Poland to play for a few hundred people for $30 a ticket???
This is the exact reason why so many people instantly doubt women when they come out with accusations. 99% of the time, they are FALSE! And the employers of the accused are just as scummy for not even having the decency to wait for even one shred of factual evidence to come out before passing judgment. They are only looking out for themselves and wanting to quickly distance themselves from the people who might put their name in a bad light for a moment. Im happy that he is exonerated and the girl admitted she lied. Now we need a public apology from his former band members. Nothing will ever undo the damage that girl caused, and if you take a look at someone like Ronnie, even when the truth is plain and clear for all to see, it won't matter because the internet has made up its mind and even false accusations are concrete proof to them that you're trash. I wish him the best going forward.
Saw Ronnie talking about this. Crazy world
She needs to not only serve the jail time he would have gotten if found guilty, but should also be paying his legal bills AND whatever amount of money he would have made with Pvris in those 3.5 years.
Why would he want his old job back? they threw him under the bus with no evidence.
.pvris should backdate all his earnings. Pay him future potential earnings lost and everyone should boycott this band for putting themselves before band mates. The band are shit anyway
PVRIS should have never let him go in the first place. Cowards who threw him under the bus, they had 0 evidence and ruined his career. I can only imagine the stress he was put under. They don't deserve him back and I hope he doesn't go back.
She should receive jail time for the false allegations
PVRIS was never really that big. They were always basically a random band on Warped Tour. The success of PVRIS or him was never tied to this.
My guess is that the band got rid of him because either 1) they probably had a vibe from him about similar behavior before or 2) they were already at a breaking point with him over other stuff and saw this as an out
Your assumptions are a clear reason why the band's actions and statements are morally unacceptable and Alex should sue them: They created a false impression among fans that they confirm those accusations, which made it much more difficult for Alex to defend his name in public. If they had other problems with Alex, they should have said so in their statement.
20+ songs with over a million plays.
Yeah, not that big 🤷
Paramore was one of those Warped Tour bands.
It's cool, you don't have to act like you know everything about everything.
It just highlights how much you don't know.
They played a few times in Norway and sold out but their last show they're we're barely people there. maybe 100 out of 1800. The band went all downhill even before Alex was kicked out but after that the band became shit. Alex deserves better than Lynn and her woke ego.
Now the real question: is SHE facing legal repercussions for this? I was never huge into PVRIS, but this is seriously disgusting and heartbreaking. I hope Alex can find peace and some modicum of justice. Also, the rest of PVRIS better have a HUUUUUUUUGE apology ready.
You can expect these lefty types to jump the gunn. See what i did there? But yeah, I was such a big fan of pvris when white noise released. Still listen to it occasionally. Innocent until proven guilty doesn't register in some people
Cannot abide people who falsely accuse people of those types of crimes 😠 that man has now lost everything, has stated that the damage done to his mental health is irreversible and what she walks away scott free? She should face charges for the damages shes caused!
Dang, I liked their music. Social media has its good and bad sides and it’s unfortunate people can ruin your reputation so easily.
We live in a time where a situation like this happens and the person being accused is immediately guilty without any evidence. PVRIS could have told Alex to take a leave until they learned more about the situation and then decided accordingly what to do instead of just firing him but I can't really fault them, that's how society works now, everyone is guilty before they are innocent, not the other way around and now PVRIS is in a pickle. They aren't the first to deal with this and they won't be the last.
Makes me not wanna pursue any type of music or acting or public employment of any kind EVER .... can't even chase your dream without being publicly smeared for no reason whatsoever by someone you could have never met !
Allegations are not fact ....
Ideally, he would bring a wrongful termination lawsuit against the band and a defamation case against the girl, seeing as she has admitted malicious intent.
I feel bad for Alex but we can’t get mad at the band for kicking him out. Their career would’ve been ruined the last 4 years having a member carry accusations around. I agree that these ppl making stuff up has gone too far , but a band won’t survive once an accusation had been made. I love Pvris and Lynn has always been the primary songwriter of the band anyway.
It’s crazy how easy it is to ruin someone’s life. If you upset the wrong person, they can claim you did whatever and it’s just over for you.
Crazy how a simple accusation can ruin someone’s career these days yet people from 1980-2010 who have been proven to have beaten their girlfriend, cheated on their wives and groped/harassed people still play arenas.
PVRIS has not been the same without him, bring him back!
The only time in history where I’m happy not to be a famous celebrity or rock star.
same thing happened to Hands Like Houses, they got dropped from their label for something that was later proved as untrue
This woman is DISGUSTING for what she did to Alex's career and LIFE. All she did was spit in the face of every man and woman that's ever been SA'd. She did this all for fame and money. What a sad and despicable human being. The damage that this did to Alex's life, career, and mental health is possibly irreversible. Just an accusation alone can cause someone to lose absolutely everything. I hope she pays for this and he's able to sue her and she receives jail time. This is the reason why many people unfortunately don't believe victims of SA. I wouldn't put it past her to further be the narcissist that she is and further lie saying that she was forced to sign the retraction statement or something.
Whoever acted against him based on an accusation-'s without an conviction needs to restore His Life financially and Socially!,✨