Stop Idolizing Bands
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
- Discussing recent situations with Sleep Token, Bad Omens, Corey Taylor, and more, and how some fans can take things too far.
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0:00 Social media and fan entitlement
2:26 Noah Sebastian: 'Don't make Bad Omens your life'
6:03 The Slipknot situation
6:25 Sleep Token & birth certificates
6:45 The irony of Architects new single
7:59 This is bad for rock
8:15 Wolfgang Van Halen - Розваги
Artists are regular people. Leave them alone and let them have their private lives.
They truly are
💯💯💯
The fact that some people don't already understand this is bizarre.
Exactly. I saw Lee Malia of Bring Me at universal studios once and I really wanted to say "Hey I love your music" and what not but I saw him there with his wife and kid and thought man he's just trying to live his life so I just kept walking
@@RockFeedlook at u white knighting
I recall the days (before social media) when a fan had NO ACCESS to the band, unless they had a backstage pass, or paid money for a snail mail fan club membership, or read a magazine like Metal Edge. Now social media has erased the divide.
Yea....we're even in times where basic people can somehow get the attention of huge celebrities
I'm a huge metal fan, I'm in it purely for the music 🎶. Don't think I'd ever be sad enough to bother someone privately.
It’s so disgusting how fans have been treating artists. On top of cancel culture and toxic trolls, the fans that cross so many boundaries that it’s unsettling is crazy. David Draiman posted a lovely photo of him and his girlfriend and all the comments were just picking her apart and shitting on both of them as if they have a say in who he dates. People need to learn the difference between being a fan and being a friend. We are so blessed to live in a time where we can connect with our favourite artists on such a personal level that was never available before. We can see a bit more into their lives we can get a peak behind the scenes and yet we demand more, and we have become so entitled that shit like this continues to happen. People shit on Ronnie Radke but he at the very least stands up for himself and sets those boundaries clear as day. Such a disgusting world we live in
Eminem wrote one of the biggest songs ever literally about this shit in 2000.
People just took the name and said, "Oh look, I'm a stan of whoever."
Legitimately, stop making artists your entire personality and life. They do not know you. You do not know them. You can relate to their music but you still do not understand them as a person.
Social media is a cancer, it’s given people an unrelenting amount of entitlement, the whole Slipknot Jay situation opened up a whole new realm of toxicity within the fanbase, barely anything has come out about what went down and they act like they know the ins and outs of the band, and in the same breath they complain that the band isn’t being fully transparent, which is unbelievably stupid considering Slipknots entire existence has been predicated on them being low down, they, along with every other band, don’t owe us anything, they release their art and music because they love it, just because you happen like it too doesn’t mean you own a piece of it.
If you truly believe you are a friend of a band or musician, the best way to convey that is to give them space and let them do their thing. An analogy I'm gonna use is going to someone's house, you don't go in the house unless they let you in, that's like bands you don't get involved personally unless they let you in
This needs to be publicized.
Fans are creepy these days. I feel so bad for artists. Social media has done nothing good for the world.
Nothing good at all!
As much as I despise Taylor swifts music. I don’t think she deserves all the craziness
Pros and cons from living in a small world.
fans have all ways been creepy insert my chemical roman’s fan fictions or just the fran fic general the problem with the internet is people no longer can differ between real life and what goes on in there head there’s all ways been stalking etc but ppl need to get off the internet and get mental health help because it becomes scarey
Profound statement. Until we stop using it, it will continue to poison humanity
Love the title. People lose sight that these artists/performers/entertainers are regular people just like everybody else. They just have more attention put on them.
I think this crazy type of behavior has always existed. It’s just been magnified because of social media and the extent of the craziness has been amplified due to the internet.
True.
I used not to understand how people get so excited over who they admire. Until I met a certain well known skater and DAMN I got nervous. We took a selfie and talked a bit, that was it, but I finally understood the hype of the situation.
Agree with you entirely.I hate it when fans discuss artists' personal lives,expect them to interact with fans 24/7 on social media and make assumptions about them and their friend circles,etc.
Get over it I am for this I like bands and I like to get to know them better
To be fair I'm sure they also make up things to keep ppl talking,". I was today's old" when I found out that paparazzi s r planned. Learned that ish from TMZ. How I'll apply that to my personal life, idk. But I learned that ish from tmz
I play in a small female fronted band called Fervence, and even we have had several toxic creepy people who do exactly that. They feel entitled to message us constantly, on IG specifically, expecting us to reply at all times. Some of which is borderline harassment. How you explained it is exactly right. As a smaller band we need the platforms to promote ourselves and these toxic people ruin it. It feels like they know they have you cornered and there is nothing you can do.
The current state of social media is impeccable. People feel entitled to anything and everything because of the "antisocial" social media exposure. If you go back 20 years before social media, I bet you that people weren't nearly as bad. And the fact that people are exposing their children to social media now like it's a normal everyday thing is honestly sickening. America is honestly in a strange state
Social media has destroyed people's attention spans, social abilities and appreciation for the little things. Its disturbing to say the least!
"If you go back 20 years you'll see people weren't as bad."
Nazy Germany my guy
Human nature doesn't change
@@Headroomtalking perceptions can be altered.
@@JMPK23 human nature cannot and remains through the age corrupted despite whether I paint rainbows around it or not
@@Headroomtalking Nazi Germany was a bit farther back then 20 years ago, my guy.
Its so sad bands like sleep token and slipknot have to deal with this stuff no one should have to be harrased online or in real life and no personal information should be leaked and the sexualising of bands like bad omens and sleep token is disgusting its so toxic online at the moment just disgusting
Well ok. I get where all this is going and agree with the idea here. BUT. By the same token, I don't want the artists I'VE SUPPORTED for decades then turn around and dictate to me how I should treat my body, or how I should vote, or how I should feel about ANY ISSUE. THIS is beyond the scope of THEIR relationship with me, imo.
Social media is the demise of everything
I remember seeing a video on on TikTok of Griffin Taylor basically telling people to stop messaging him to have him tell his dad(Corey Taylor) how much Slipknot's music has meant to them and stuff. Griffin said he wasnt gonna do that cuz it was just weird and rediculous
Don’t idolize celebrities, bands, and artists period. I can see being a fan, but going as far as to do heinous and unthinkable things in order to garner their attention is deplorable, degenerative behavior. I’ll never ever get people who go far and do that.
We need information
I remember when I tried asking korn about the illuminati on a social page. I guess that's as weird as I get, :/. They didn't respond. Some celebrities have responded to me tho. Not thinking they would've. Or they prob have w/ out me knowing too.. also, I don't say anything outlandish. I get on yt all the time too. & Get in my emos. Possible other weird sh. Aside from that, I don't do any of the ish mentioned. I just be like this 1 time ..
Yes - it’s ok to be a fan of a band/artist but it’s not ok to be sociopathic or a stalker!
Everything that was said is spot on... The instant gratification complex is a curse that comes with things like social media...
The slipknot situation is one of the dumbest things to happen within a fanbase in metal in years imo
I don't even bother looking at the comments on their posts anymore cause "fans" always connect it to them firing someone.
Facts. Both of you.
Nothing but Corey and Clown haters these days.
Bands don't owe their fans anything! They do not have to give you their private information! Yes it's fun to talk to bands in real time! Hell I would love to meet Nikki sixx but you don't see me stalking him online and demanding his address, because he has a young daughter, and that would put her in danger. If anyone here is stalking or harsing bands if you had any ounce of love or respect for them, you would leave them alone! Let them have their privacy.
Glad to see you waited a day to post. Seen a lot of bombs that were posted in the middle of the night.
Honestly I agree with you about this insane fan shit. I myself being a maggot, find it stupid that other maggots are harassing the slipknot members, and their family. It's so bizarre that this happens literally after a band member leaves, or some other random controversy they get in in which they are seen to be in the wrong. It's some of the dumbest crap I've seen. I don't know how to, but we need to find a way to stop this from happening so often. Maybe, those types of fans should stay off the internet for a long while, live in the real world, and understand that they don't have to know every single detail about a bandmate's personal life and that the world doesn't evolve around themselves. If a bandmate wants to talk about their personal life, that's their choice and their free will that was given to them by God. It's not the fans job to force them to do shit. no one can mess with free will. not even god. God gave us free will so that we could control our own life, and not controlled by someone or something else.
I really enjoy watching your videos because you are very knowledgeable and informative about rock music and entertainment in general! Keep up up!😊
Thank you for this! Such an important topic! I followed the Slipknot-Weinberg-Topic a little bit on Instagram and what is going on there is not normal!!! I think such haters should really seek help. When the band or an artist becomes the sole purpose of life, something is definitely wrong. and you can also see what all the hate does to artists. It really makes me so sad!
Personally, I've had to snap myself out of this mindset with a couple of artists. I've gown up literally alongside of some of them, evolving with their tastes, and having a very deep connection to their music. There's some artists that I've seen 50+ times VIP, and they know me by name/face. I think most VIP experiences are catered the fact that the artist/band understands that these are the die -hards. I've gotten to meet, smile with, and talk to my favorite artists due to VIP opportunities, and even sidestage. That's all I could ever wish for.
It's not like theyre taking me on tour, LOL.
If they really wanted to be your friends they wouldn’t charge you 100s of dollars for VIP experiences. They only see you as someone they can get more money from than the casual fan. In casinos they call them ‘whales’!
Great video. I completely agree with you 100%
People need to respect privacy it's ridiculous people that act like this have no social life and nothing to pass the time sane people don't act like this
Really like Sleep Token but what I think what happened to them was unconstitutional 😢. Much respect to Sleep Token!
I’ve been out of the rock game for a while now, only really coming back because of Sleep Token. I gotta say, it’s a little discouraging to see that what is my current favorite band is having to deal with such an awful minority of fans. They definitely deserve all the hype and the blow-up that they had, but not this stuff. Also my condolences to Noah and the rest of Bad Omens. Hopefully things can only get better from here
Magazines have been doing it long before Social media. I find Paparazzi revolting for the same reasons if not, worse. Musicians are people. They deserve privacy. They deserve a life off the stage. It's gross that people can't grasp that, it may be a job of passion, but it's still a job.
For the fan's own mental health and stability, stop idolizing bands and stop having a Parasocial relationship with these bands, have boundaries and the give the band boundaries itll just help the fan's mind at ease and not become obsessive, also fan's dont gatekeep!! Just enjoy music and their vibes
This is something that has always confused and baffled me tbh. Even when I was a teenager.
One of my first jobs was kitchen work at my local airport in a bar behind security, so I had access to pretty much everyone who came through. Lots of celebrities, athletes, you name it, but every single one of them I met I treated the exact same as I would a stranger.
Some artists I was fans of liked small talk, some were busy and knowing my own boundaries I'd keep my distance, others just appreciated simply being talked to like they were an ordinary human being and not 'making a big deal' of it.
Social etiquette is something a lot of parents and teachers no longer teach their kids and I feel particularly thankful that my parents taught me that respect. The social climate in North America is just so particularly insane right now it's ridiculous.
Boundaries to these people is a meaningless word.
I think all this behavior is evidence that these people don't have enough going on in their own lives. As Noah has talked about, people need to have their own friends, their own lives, their own passions, etc... Thank you for speaking on this... (Noah is right about the underage pics thing too- if people did this to a woman, it would be villified way more. But it's not any less wrong to do it to him.)
Although social media may be part of the problem, we can't ignore the fact that the country is having a massive mental health crisis, which might be the root of the problem. Therefore, don't let any person, any group, especially a band or celebrity, dominate every aspect of your daily life.
It's the entire Western world. People can't control their emotions, or at least feel like they shouldn't have to.
The root is the human heart
And human nature
Which has never changed
Nazi Germany
The crusades
Stoning of women in B.C.
Now we just stone on the internet
The mental health crisis IS BECAUSE OF SOCIAL MEDIA!
Well, I certainly understand your point of view and agree to some extent. Still, I kind of “blame” everyone for this, “normal people”, fans and bands. Because, to be honest, what did they expect?
I mean, they all have and live for social media to get exposure, for attention, for income, for likes, for views, etc.
When “bad” things are in “small doses”, they don't care and sometimes they even laugh about it. Since having "a single hackler" can be almost a good thing, for publicity, for fans support, to practice "your" funny and cool replies, to impress and show to"your" followers what a "cool cat" you are.
The problem is when things get big and out of control. Then, suddenly, it's very bad! Well, that's exactly how social media works!
You can't have the best of both worlds. This applies to artists, bands, UA-cam channels, etc.
Examples: [Some] parents will do anything to protect their children from strangers in real life. But then, they go and post [their children's] entire lives on the internet.
Or [some] girls don't want to be bothered in real life by any male stranger [unless he arrives in a Ferrari]. God forbid, if some poor unattractive guy says something to her in real life. He is immediately a scoundrel. a weirdo, a pervert, whatever. But then, they [the girls] post almost nude or even nude photos in sexual poses on the internet, for those same likes, views and/or, to get attention.
Basically what I want to say is: if “you” want a “normal life” and privacy, don’t choose a “public artistic job”,and/or don’t put “your” entire life on the internet for strangers to see. If “you” still decided to go ahead, at least have the intelligence and back spine to know what could happen and protect "yourself", since “you” chose a “job” that depends on having an audience.
Don't be a hypocrite by thinking that it will be all just fun and games.
agree 100%, fans are truly awful and it all boils down to the sense of entitlement this generation seems to have. Be a fan, not an entitled asshole its that simple! We as fans don't have the right to claim any sort of ownership over bands or any celebrity for that matter! Social media is just awful and destructive to everything and everyone, privacy no longer exists with social media, the best way to resolve that is not indulge in social media if you want to have any sort of privacy! There is far too many entitled pricks in this world.
It’s true. And certain content usually comes with a trigger warning when tweens are consumers but some artists try to leverage their “vulnerability” (which is a symptom of narcissism/covert narcissism) which feeds into that parasocial “you saved my life” mindset. Some front persons intentionally position themselves as “saviors” in their “vulnerability” like giving “spontaneous” speeches about self harm with no warning to a crowd of tweens to seem so “vulnerable”…I find it interesting their vulnerability is performed during high visibility moments. Multiply that with emo intelligence lacking & it’s a recipe for disaster. Mind you, plenty of kids & tweens are capable of being as or more emo intelligent than some adults. Not all the kids and tweens are like that. The scene is no better when it comes to ‘idolizing’ one another either “artist” to “artist” (as they are after all just people too, like their fans, and themselves are fans) as they will selectively cancel MGK for clout on glorifying SH with his razor guitar (does Occam’s razor glorify SH because razor is mentioned?) meanwhile their cohorts’ in the scene’s lyrics/actions aren’t any better when it comes to their chummy friends in the scene. I cannot listen to MGK at all but it is obvious they went after MGK for the clout. The “artists” know what it’s like to be a fan as well.
This type of behavior has been taking place in other genres for years, western Pop music, and Korean Pop music, especially. In Korea, you will have situations where they will even find out where your personal address is stockers will follow you home every day, if they don’t like you, they will make up rumors about you and completely destroy your career. I don’t exactly know what about our culture is causing this. I’m not sure if it’s all social media or if social media just plays part of it, but still, I never thought that this type of behavior would start to work its way into rock.
Do you think this is being caused partially by the 'popificaton' of rock and metal, it's attracting a different kind of fan?
@@Music3-xc5fp that could be part of it, I’ve been hearing about this stuff for years because my girlfriend listens to K-pop. I think it’s just a situation where in society people feel entitled people feel like they have a right to invade other peoples privacy. Actually, we can go back to whenever people started writing Fanfiction’s about their favorite artist/celebrity back in the day. That was kind of the beginning of all of this. And people creating para social relationships with their favorite artists.
This is one of the many reasons why i feel Elvis was the best. People hung outside his gates all the time and he wud take pictures with them or sign stuff. Even let them onto his lawn . He was very down to earth and loved his fans. Crazy or not
I love this channel 🤘
What an experiment Sebastian conducted. Absolutely marvelous.
I've done a MammothWVH M&G, it's pretty cool. Completely understandable how the conditions of it were enacted. If he allows items to be brought in to be signed, there would be folks bringing Frankenstrats etc for him to sign.
Bro, you look jacked, those traps lol 💪
Keep up the great content my man
Thank you bro!
I agree w you. Fans are doing uber stupid shit. Makes no sense.
Just enjoy the music
Idolising bands was never a problem, it was good back in the day to give you dreams and hopes and drive to do something you love. Now, “influencers” are idolised and the direct access people have is scary.
In all honesty I just love posting and tagging bands when I’m excited for their new releases and tours. music should just be that just music no one should feel like because they have a certain amount passion towards an artist doesn’t mean you have some kind of say in that artist life and the way they live and how they make the music you enjoy, and yes I say music should be just music as back to when people came together for like the same genre or even getting each other into genres they never have been around or experienced and going to shows with friends to party, rave, or mosh and enjoy the bands you like together. These bands and other musicians are people too and some people just can’t let that be. We understand the love for all the music we all love but some of y’all just take shit too far now and it’s makes music not as fun or enjoyable as it used to be.
Love your input
I'm hardly known but even I've noticed a creepy fan account with old photoshoots being used as well as the other side of anonymous UA-cam comments telling me to stay away from making music. These are just rare cases so I can't imagine what it'd be like having that constantly when going online. Can't blame Noah for going off social media altogether.
The musician landscape is becoming more and more like youtube. I will not be surprised if we start seeing Musician apology videos next, then with them, critique videos on apology videos
Smaller artist here, I have had my share of some fans that became parasocial. These instances really made me uncomfortable to the point that I had to block them after being sent inappropriate messages and comments. This sucks because I want to make sure that everyone has a good time but sadly there’s some that ruin it for everyone else.
Rock band fans have killed my love on music there have been times that I feel like that they truly made the best record of their entire career however fans only could care about what they are most comfortable with they only want to listen to a specific style of music that they see in that band They Don't Care About challenges and interesting directions from music for that particular artist
Saw Bad Omens at Louder Than Life in 2023, lot of fun 🤙🏻
Great video ❤
He is making a fascinating observation in this situation. He is noticing the commoditization of everything around him, causing him unease. I imagine this is discouraging since he desires success and influence, yet he is also becoming conscious of how the modern world turns into a perplexing rabbit hole or 'looking glass'.
I think everyone's creepy tbh. Every one! There's just levels & variations to it. & Idc, my own comment made me want to listen to Billie eilish
Deftones "White Pony 🐴" shirt is awesome 🤘🏼.
While Noah was able to hang out with us in 2019 in Dallas and Tucson..and anywhere
Concerning this: I commented on a video with Eric and Paul from Kiss and was contacted by a man claiming to be Paul Stanley. I answered politely thinking this was a nutcase. He was very polite as well, and finished by stating that after all the fans he’s ever chatted with I was the only one he trusted. Then the communication stopped. All very weird 🤔
Musicians and fans both often take each other for granted. Its like a bad relationship thats toxic on both sides. A lot of musicians don't appreciate what they have, and a lot of fans act like every musician is their personal friend. Its not healthy either way.
As a huge Slipknot fan, seeing all of the entitlement and hate from the fan base over decisions (that I also don’t necessarily agree with myself either) is disgusting and really upsetting. I’m not saying to not voice your opinions, definitely voice your opinions but do so with respect and kindness.
People are nuts, Im still gonna be pissed about Joey. Thanks for atleast letting me see him at Inkcarceration.
I’m glad I that I don’t have a social media it has done more harm then good.
Social media ruined everything
Some artists blatantly ignore their online audience unless they're blue checkmark peers. In person is more fun anyway. Ive met DRI and MOD by helping pack up and so I got to hang out with em. That's the most fun. David from Red Fang is a cool guy too.
Something off topic, I noticed that the audio is slight ahead of the video for some parts, especially at the beginning. Nonetheless great video! I'm pretty sure most of the audience, idolizing the band, are girls
KINDA BUMMED THAT YOU DIDN'T DO A VIDEO ON THE RECENT PASSING OF SCORPIONS DRUMMER JAMES KOTTAK, HE WAS A GREAT MAN AND DRUMMER WAS WITH THE SCORPIONS FOR 20 YEARS THAT SAYS A LOT HE IS MISSED DEARLY IN THE ROCK COMMUNITY!!!! REST IN PEACE JAMES KOTTAK...
Nobody plays music just to play music anymore. Everybody just wants to be famous and rich and live this glorious. Famous m t v lifestyle because everybody glorified it back in a day, What they don't tell you is that Musicians don't make that much money. After all, the fees and everything else that they have, they make probably an average working day. Pay at least most bands, some of the hyperfamous bands might be a bit different but, I play music and I play for fun. And I personally think that bands should invest in themselves and stop going to the labels. People have gotta stop idealizing fame I think music should go back to just being about the art, not the money in the frame. I'm glad to be a starving musician. At least I didn't have to sell my soul at the cross roads.
for your next video can you please do how Rock artists inspire and influence by Bob Marley.
That is pretty messed up that happens social media has gone so far to allow this stuff to happen..
I really love bad omens and I saw them live once and some fangirls around me were just creepy af as soon as they got out on stage. Smiling and screaming and taking pictures every time Noah got on out side of the stage. It was really cringy and I couldn't really enjoy the show being around people like that.
Hey I’ve interacted online with a few musicians and I appreciate them answering me a lot I definitely would never bother them these are normal people with families respect their privacy people and if you want to try and comment on their posts but don’t go dm ing them and following them around.
I posted a reply below here similar to what I'm about to say here , The problem we have with social media, is the problem we as a human civilization have not just in the United States but all around the world as well, we take something that has the potential for good or could be used as just tool to live a more enriched life and find other more nefarious uses for it. Guns(we can use them just to hunt or for protection, not murder and war) drugs( many are out there to help people with problem in their own bodies but can be easily abused), and even many technical advancements(radio, TV, and lately social media can be harnessed for propaganda but have other better uses) fit into this category as well. We have the potential to do so much good with many of these things but we instead often twist the uses for out own gain. We really waste so much potential on our own greed , I'm just saying this so people realize that many if not all of these things have even more potential for good rather than evil if only we use them that way. Ultimately the problem isn't the things I just talked about it is us collectively as human beings.
Fuckin stalking if you ask me
Like the new intro
Pop industry is i think a lot worse, what with most fans being teens. I've seen pics of fans who have nothing but merch in their room and nothing else. It's so friggin unhealthy and obsessive, and it's like their entire life and identity is based around that one person or group. I hate it in general when people also focus only on the singer, like the other members aren't important or don't exist.
As fans, we are not owed anything from these artists! It makes me sad and sick to my stomach, the way these so-called "fans" act, if they don't like what an artist does or says or posts or whatever it may be. You buy the album, you buy the merch, you watch the videos and you go to the shows. After that it's done that's it. You are not friends they do not need to acknowledge you it's weird af and it needs to stop!!!!
This has always been a problem social media just enhanced the problem even more we gotta stop acting like this wasn't a problem before social media.
I have gotten responses from some of my favorite artists, one even recently posted my comment on all their accounts, it was a proud moment for me as a fan. It was totally unexpected and I really smiled for a day, but some came after me because I got a moment of a spotlight of being a fan, and people said they were a bigger fan and I was a poser... Seriously I was one of the first 150 people to see the bands first major video (had 2 lesser test songs a year before hand.) Yet none of them commented in the videos prior... Um... ok...
You mean to tell me they're not going to fall in love with me if they respond to my DMs??
Jeez, I like everything about Bad Omens. And thankfully I don't idolize anyone anymore. I'm no longer a teenager
As a musicianist like myself, I've always worried about the fans who loves my music would probably stalk me or try to come to my house unattended and it's fuckin weird or even invading my own space, shits is just absolutely weird and creepy to be honest...
They make music that we love but they don't owe us anything
Every day I'm more tempted to opt out of social media, it's just getting too negative. All of the bots are crazy as well, who the heck is a real person anymore? Advertisements are also totally out of control. It's getting to the point its not enjoyable anymore. It's a cool way to keep up with my close friends, but all the other nonsense is outweighing the benefits.
I love that Architects has irony not only in lyrics but also in music. They just created metalcore memes song and it's still sick song with great chorus melody.
About Slipknot I can say there is something worse than writing comments under Clown/Corey posts - writing comments about situation with Jay to Griffin or Simon.
I deleted my social media. I follow bands either through Spotify or their official website for updates.
"The entitlement mentality is defined as a sense of deservingness or being owed a favor when little or nothing has been done to deserve special treatment. It's the “you owe me” attitude. Entitlement is a narcissistic personality trait". This is what I found out from Google.
In your video about Corey Taylor talking about his mental health I saw a lot of stuff in the comments like theyre talking directly to him saying "youre amazing, youre a living legend" etc. and even with that kinda stuff im sitting here thinking, hes a human being, he knows he's a rock star, he was saying one of his problems is ego lol. Just treat people like people and let them live.
Eminem was very prophetic about this issue when he wrote the song Stan in the year of 2000. Here we are, almost 25 years later, it has gotten worse.
Many artists prefer to live quiet private lives. They dont always want that public attention. They need their space just like us. Let us be respectful toward the artists.
Any one who idolises bands like this seriously need therapy.
It’s a bummer. Keep on keeping on. If you are making good music, people will listen
I couldn't imagine having the energy to stalk musicians I like. If I had that energy I would be trying to start my own band. lol.
Some people seem to feel some sort of ownership over the bands they support these days, like they get to dictate the decisions about the bands inner workings. Also the deep diving in to personal lives, is creepy and would have been considered stalking before the internet. It’s meant to be about enjoying the music.
people need to stop being creey to there favorite band at laste thats what i think
Always said stop idolising false heros these bands are not your friends yea some care to a degree but in reality they dont have time for most people. That being said you can still appreciate a artist and there work and support them in the right ways
I know you’ve seen the interactions, but the shit then people have been saying towards Ronnie Radke on twitter is just wild. Dude gets attacked online daily, hell hourly. That takes loads of mental stamina to put up with.
Those are people with too much time on their hands,i can't even keep track of my own life let alone anothers
Never realized this was even an issue because my generation (gen x) didn't have the means to even be so creepy. Sadly, it came on my radar being a huge Children of Bodom fan....just rolling through their social media sites in the last few years I started seeing more and more of this attitude that just by being a fan people thought they were entitled to extremely private info...even on Alexi's personal FB people posting that he "looked like shit" and demanding to know why he was so skinny and just being flat out rude about it as if since they bought a few albums and concert tickets that somehow they deserve the right to know EVERYTHING. People even attacking his ex gf or current gf when clearly they didn't know these people or anything about real life personal details..they based their attacks on assumptions or rumor mill BS. I really couldn't believe people had the balls to go right on their socials and spew this shit and demand to know such personal shit as someone's health issues. Felt terrible for the band who was clearly going through enough and was also embarrassed to be a metal fan at the time as I never saw shit like that before. It's a whole new level of creep! Nobody owes you anything, especially personal details about their life no matter how big of a fan you are. How did we get to where this isn't just common sense??
That is like stalking not idolizeing