UNBIASED GEAR REVIEW - Starshine 8-string - THE CHEAPEST FANNED FRET 8-STRING ON EBAY
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Starshine 8-string
- Ash body
- 5-piece mahogany/rosewood Neck
- Rosewood Fretboard
- 24 frets
- Multiscale, fanned fret design
- 2X humbuckers
- single-saddle bridge
- locking tuners
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I'm just saying, it came from Aliexpress. It's a cheap Chinese guitar. The reason people buy these is because they want something that looks passable and then they fix the rest. As a luthier, I love buying them.
Just like I always say about those things, those are mod project guitars. Beautiful, cheap with a LOT room for improvement that can be done easily
Yea I do that too, I usually look for cool looking crap guitars then I fix them. The end result is usually a guitar thats worth over 1k
@@user-wm8cc5ym7y with aftermarket pickups, locking tuners etc. Could be even more
Exactly, swap in a fishman fluence moderns set and someone will be very very happy
I'm an amateur builder. The shine (Star?) wears off, but I can't deny that i was a tech or repair luthier (and repair pays better than building unless you're George Wilson) - these things come in needing work and you get to know your customer.
if someone ever brings in a new collings for more than a pickup change, it would have to be extremely rare.
"Pickups sound really muddy" demonstrates it with a sludge-like riff
Lmao
Ikr
I feel as if he has no idea what he’s talking about and tries to sound educated.
@@markolivares6943 yeah... he talks about high quality but runs 4-600 dollar guitars through a kemper profiler.. omegalul
@@jumboshrimp7859 🤣. To be honest you can make a 200$ guitar sound good and it’s all in your hands....... but apparently not with his lol
It actually has two redeeming qualities - the bridge and the price. Many things mentioned are repairable.
Thank you for the excellent review.
New pickups and some fret work. Looks good.
"Nonamefucking™ Humbuckers" (2:27)
LOL I laughed when he said ok let’s go over the specs of this POS
@@DropToon Hahaha!! xD
I bought an 8 string off amazon for 185.00 2 years ago. Still have it and its one of my favorite guitars to play, but tone wise it isnt actually terrible.
this is a chinese clone of a Skervesen custom build. It was supposed to be inspired by FFVII which is why it has the meteor inlay. look up Skervesen Raptor 8 FFVII theme and you'll see what I mean
Just the FFVII reference makes me want to buy it, plus to buy it as a project guitar.
@@saintluciaofficial2019 Yeah me too, I was already looking at them but never noticed the FFVII imagery and want to mod the fuck out of it.
what I understand is if your amp is great enough, even the shittiest guitar can sound good.
Yup. If you play high gain guitar it's gonna sound pretty much the same regardless of the guitar. With cleans the difference is really apparent. Also since guitar is essentially your interface to music it should play good at least imo
Sort‘ve, it will definitely sound ‘better’, but it will also sound different between pickups. I don’t think people realize how big of a difference pickups can make, some people just blow it off because of some worthless comparison video they’ve seen on UA-cam.
@@22z83 not really, most cheap stock pickups tend to sound muddy on low end, playing high gain even makes it more clear.
Very true!
An Ibanez Gio thru a Kemper sound better than a Mayones thru a Marshall 5 watt practice amp.
For performance purposes you can probly get away with it as long as you can keep a cheap guitar in tune, but eventually you will want to either upgrade pickups or upgrade the guitar since crappy pickups are only gonna capture so much of your amps tone.
Love your honest opinions! Probably one of the best guitar related channels on YT! :-)
Regards from Germany!
I'm so happy you did this video. Just now starting to watch the video but i've been watching this guitar for a while!
Love that you dove right into the demo!
OOO that's fantastic. The way you said for some reason gave me a gut laugh. Thanks
Love the shirt! Great review man!
Even Arnold's caught up in this trend!
Haha. I love the honesty right off the bat!! Killer vid
Come on, mate! Three hundred beans for an eight-sting from China?!? The piss-poor quality was more-than-expected.
I totally agree...but it still needs to be said. There's lots of dudes out there that price-bitch about the expensive stuff and think they can get "a perfectly good guitar" for dirt cheap. They don't look at quality, they look at how much of their money must they spend. I had a feeling it was going to suck, but I've been proven wrong before and had hopes. They were dashed, though.
>reviews an 8 strings
>Treats it like a 7 for 99% of the song
So if you don't base the song on the lowest string of the guitar it's a waste of money? He could probably get rid of multiple of the skinnier strings too by that logic.
@@siisihqdaa The point is to test the whole range of the guitar. If you ever played one, you know that an 8 string will sound NOTHING like a 7 strings, and it requires adequate pickups to not sound flubby as hell. It was like buying a 4x4 offroad truck and then use it to go downtown shopping. It's still a car and drives like one, but its highly wasted.
thanks for doing these kind of videos!
Love the winger riff in the middle!!
Thanks for taking one for the team \m/
Thanks Arnold I literally didn't buy one of these because of you and now I own an agile intrepid 828 pro I got used for the Same price
Thank you. Ive been looking at the 7 string version of this one for a while, but couldnt find anything about it.
Fairly sure the sellers change listings all the time so that no feedback can accumulate, and so that the listings are picked up as "new" listings.
I bought something last year that was trash. About 15 other people thought it was trash, too. The seller modified the description, which wiped out the feedback, and increased the price! (maybe they had software that increased the price automatically due to the sales volume).
Would it be possible to post a close up picture of the fret work on your reviews from here on out as a regular feature?
Nice shirt!
Thanks for this review! ... was looking at one of the cheap Starshine hollowbody basses on Ebay and thinking of pulling the trigger on one ... this video set me straight! LOL ... Cheers!
I bet that surge helps with those tasty riffs. SURGE, IT'S WHAT GUITARIST'S CRAVE!!!! All you need now is some Crystal Pepsi and you'll have a party! Great review btw!
Just got the 7 string version of that. All the problems you are having with that 8 string is not found on the version I got. Maybe I just got lucky idk. I’m pretty happy with it.
Caught the Winger riff! All the best!
I paid $150 for a used LTD neck-through 8 string and it plays like a dream!
Finally, some love for the ARZ307. Mine cost less than this brick of shit, and she's served me well for the last five years.
This was a very helpful video. I was literally about to purchase the 6 string version of this thing (with the intention of hardcore modifying it), but then right after watching this vid I discovered Harley Benton guitars and I think that’s gonna be a more fruitful way to go XD
that`s the best 8-string playing I`ve ever heard (I mean melodically)
This review made me laugh so much!!! Love the honesty!!! Lmao 😂
holy shit, that was Winger in there..She's only 17. that's awesome man.
Well...
I don't think anyone. That watches these sorts of videos. Buys one of these cheap-o guitars not expecting a project.
And I don't think anyone who takes playing guitar, writing and recordingmusic seriously should ever buy one of these things.
I can see why this guitar was a waste of your time Arnold.
But I saw nothing to convince me not to buy one as project.
I always enjoy the reviews. This is definitely one of the most interesting guitar channels on UA-cam.
why not buy a build kit for a project?
The description and photos of the guitar you "bought" does not change on eBay and remains the same in your "Purchase History" - the seller can only change the description and photos for current/future sales.. Thanks for this excellent Unbiased Review - scratch one shiny thing off my temptation list - I mean, if Joe Lycett was a guitar, that would be it. Subd.
I'd be interested to see you try one of those Aliexpress Blackmachine's.
I have one. The quality is basically the same as this guitar in this video.
@Jesse Parrish Except the necks are PAINTED in and not different woods!
@@nicolashrv Yeha some of them actually paint on skunk stripes
She's Only Seventeen.... Great song to demo the guitar with.
I’ll be honest Arnold, your song writing ability makes it hard to initially make a sound judgement on guitars. It’s only when you talk about build quality that I get any idea of quality lol. That’s a thumbs up for your rig and riffs my man.
Hey Arnold! I saw this video and I was wondering if you might jump on the NK headless train? I've seen a handful of people like yourself do reviews and was wondering if this could be a video to see in the future for budget guitars?
Looks very sharp, I might add.
I like how Arnold played seventeen at 17:17.
Actually bought the 7 string version of this like a month ago. I now know what to expect when it finally gets here.
Did you end up liking it?
I got the 7 string and it plays well but I agree it needs work I have to take it to a shop to get it fixed up
This guitar is like a riced Honda Civic but with 8 strings
All show no go
actually riced Honda's kick ass
Eric Gunnar rices hondas suck ass. Youre not talking about some k swapped built block big turbo bubble
HOnda are awesome cars. Take a Japanese-made car over a Ford or Chevy anyday.
Just curious my dude! What is the red multi scale in the top right?
Well it sounded good in your opening demo
Thanks for taking one for the team 😏
i like what you were playing here too
Hey Arnold! I noticed you have a lot of reviews for higher end boutique guitars. Have you thought of doing any for middle of the road priced guitars from Ibanez or Jackson? I would love to see those. Cheers!
I honestly think that those guitars are the perfect mod guitars. You but for a low price a really beautiful guitar but then you just have to swap a few parts, give it a proper setup and you have a great guitar
Lol at people complaining about a 'rich' person buying the cheapest something and 'complaining' about it.
Talk about missing the point, doesn't matter how poor you are you're really wasting your money here and he's just being brutally honest. Agile isn't a great deal more than this, for a MUCH better instrument in every way.
Honestly if you're poor and looking for a guitar on this budget, I'd HIGHLY recommend getting a Jackson JS22 dinky in natural oil with a Blackstar Fly3. I love the natural oil because it doesn't have a sealed finish around the body, the difference that makes is HUGE, allows the wood to breathe as it vibrates, the unplugged sound is awesome. Also not only are the pickups decent, but they're microphonic in a mostly positive way, the body actually makes a positive difference in tone here IMO. That guitar, the Fly3, a gig bag, Jazz III Ultex picks, and a cable could be had for about $300 and would make an amazing starter pack. Also it says basswood body, but I'm pretty sure the natural oil is mahogany, looks and sounds like it.
www.amazon.com/Jackson-JS22-Dinky-Natural-Oil/dp/B01MY9QSAW/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1521056633&sr=1-1&keywords=js22+natural+oil
Unless of course you have a 6-string and want a multi-scale 8, well in that case just live within your means and stick with the guitar you have. :)
i was considering buying one, but after ur vid, decided on a 7 string ltd instead.
cheers arnold, would have been gutted to get this pos.
So, it's pretty much what one would expect from such a guitar. No real surprise there. :)
I heard Winger!
Hey Arnold review your Washburn V please 👍
He did in the facebook live stream for the pickup giveaway.
Oh ok ill have to check it out.
Thanks
Hey Arnold can you do a review on the Kiesel Zeus 8 string? I'm trying to get an unbiased review on the instrument 😄
That DTP poster in the background though 😎
The best part of the video is seeing you describe the hiss lol.
no worries about the side gaps, they don't really lead to much sustain, but too tight of a joint and you can get finish and pocket cracks. A little room there is good - you want good wood selection and a good fit between the bottom of the neck and the pocket where the screws apply pressure.
I love looking at super expensive bolt ons that are a decade old to find the ones that have cracked. There's a $4600 used james tyler strat copy (why would any strat copy ever be $4600 even new?) on ishibashi that has a tight neck to body fit and a big crack in the pocket. I wonder if the makers ever studied wood movement at all - you can probably get away with that super tight pocket with a quartered or laminated neck and a quartered body, but the odds are against you elsewhere.
No denying that the workmanship is poor and they're just making them as fast as possible with cheap parts, but that's the price level. I got a supposed custom guitar with a cocobolo neck a couple of years ago, and a koa solid top. It turned out that it came with a dark colored mahogany neck (they tried to hide it by making it near solid color - I pushed them for a refund on that, the top was a veneer and there was a ton of glue under the koa was just a veneer. the "high output pickups" were just metal covered very noisy unpotted low output pickups and the wiring was the cheapest mini pot junk you could find, and the tuners untuned themselves constantly.
It's fun to experiment with a couple of really cheap guitars, but the fun wears off pretty fast if you start correcting problems.
Thanks for the video bud it was some great info I've been looking more into many brands of guitars just my personal taste I'm not a big fan of bolt-on's I just don't like them now set-necks or neck-thru's I like alot more the guitar looks nice from far away but up close D:
Groovy riffs m8
For $200 and what it is, I think it's not even that bad. Even though the Harley Bentons might beat them up quite seriously at the same price.
I see a lot of people saying it's all fixable stuff. That's true. Having to do 5-6 hrs of work and spend a few hundred dollars for parts, however, is rough.
You can get a $699 Ibanez or Jackson in infinitely better condition. Just quick truss and bridge adjustment and you're off.
Will somebody give this man a Mayones Setius or Duvell to review!
"Great."
There you go. There's the review.
Fucken RITE.
I Watch You From Afar got a setius pro lizard from 2008.
10/10. Really it is perfect
My brother has a Setius Gothic from 2017 and its AMAZING, best guitar I've ever touched, I just really want to see Arnold go over one with a fine tooth comb because for me the Setius, at under $2000, is just as good as anything else mayones put out, even the $5000+ Regius models. Yes it may be bare-bones compared to the more expensive guitars but for its price I think its the best guitar you can buy, its just overlooked because its considered the 'baby' of the Mayo family.
No... They won't.
I had worse fret cuts from a b stock Harley Benton fanned fret
Learned how to round fret ends pretty fast at that point
I can see myself buying one of these just to occupy a wall hanger because no matter what the sound is its frikkin pretty
Would love to see a review on your Dingwall NG2. I have one myself and I spoiled myself with that bass. When I buy another bass it'll most likely be another Dingwall.
they are incredible. I recently sold mine just to order one of the new 6-string ones.
Would love to see what you would have to say about those headless NK Guitars
I'm guessing that you would prefer to pro mod an agile if someone is strapped for cash?
I used to do reviews on Chinese replica guitars on my old channel. This is an attempt at a chinese manufacture creating their own brand from a knockoff they make. You can buy these things on Aliexpress or DHGate for about $300, but youll have to drop another grand to make it a good quality instrument. Usually have to replace tuners and bridge first, or there is zero sustain. Then the pickups need to be replaced, then either fret dress or complete refretting overhaul. After that, if the wood is really what they say it is (Which it usually isnt) then youll have a nice guitar. Thanks for the video!
IMHO no need for grad but you have right about changing hardware, but then again even on 2000-3000$ i change hardware (people bring guitars and ask me to that). You have good point about the wood on those guitars and according to my experience majority is amazingly good quality, for this sort of wood combination and work He would min 1000$ if He is very lucky . i honestly think that people who expect to get 1st class wood+ great hardware and attention to details + setup all that for 300$ well ☺ they have serious issues and unrealistic expectations.
That neck makes it useless. Except for firewood.
And I like cheapos in this vein.
Ugh. thanks for taking the L for us.I really appreciate it. Sticking to Cort and possibly Harley Benton for a good cheapo @ retail.
I noticed that the pickups are not slanted for the multiscale design, leaving half the poles to the side of the string they should be beneath. 14:00 Could be why they sound so shit? I have an Agile pendulum 7 string that I had bareknuckle make slanted pickups for, and it sounds nice.
How long did it take for the guitar to arrive after you ordered it?
I like Surge as well!!
Do you think you can do a Review of a Overload Rea 7 ? :)
"So first let's go over the specs of this piece of shit" caught me off guard 😂😂
Do the Ibanez M80M next please?
Damn, that tone was thick and sludgey, niiiice.
Would you like to try out an NK Luminous guitar? It's a 6 string headless guitar that's being sold on Ebay and Ali Express for about 350$ and I've heard some good unbiased reviews about it on UA-cam
It's probably rosewood in the laminations. There is a ton of rosewood in china compared to most other places because they have a huge furniture industry building with it.
The blue bits on the body are probably someone touching it with dye on their fingers. Just hurry kind of errors, and lack of process (but the kind of thing you'd expect on something really dirt cheap).
Dat solo
I think you do the best gear reviews. Would love to see a shootout of budget/ mid range guitars of a similar style/ price range from you. Also would like to hear your opinion on the schecter brimstone and/or apocalypse pickup sets. alright done being greedy just stopped by to say I enjoy your content thoroughly and I think every musician/gear whore should subscribe to this channel.
i love the final fantasy inlay
16:02 Arnold: Fuck it, ima go full Gojira and I don't even give a flying fuck.
I have 2 Chinese Eastman archtops.... They are KILLER.
Thanks for the vid. What’s the name of the song?
You should check out one of those Mitchell guitars. They seem kinda sketchy but I'm curious.
Whats the red guitar all the way to the right on the wall
PLEASE MAKE AN REVIEW OF SubZero Generation Pro Fanned Fret 8-String
I'm czeching out cheap 8 and 9 string guitars lately. Imo, the toneage I'm hearing thru this vid has been quite good. But I'm listening pretty low fi here, my mobile with Toshiba bluetooth cans which were like 20 bucks, lol. Hmm.. maybe keep that guitar around; it may grow on you, who knows. I suspect I would have initially liked this guitar more than you, but I know little about guitars on the technical level, and you probably are way more into them in that way.. I'm just a hick punk rocker who picks up a git and makes noise, and that's about all I worry about, lol. But anyway, the tones you're getting from this git plus whatever rig yr using sounds really good from here. Lol, I'll finally shut up now. Cheers, greetings from Texas, lol.
Saw that coming
I bought an Ibanez rg8 2 years ago and it was really no better than this. I had to take the neck off and rework it, file the frets, and the pickups were noisier than this. I also paid $399 for it. Oh, and it's straight fret. I am going to try their 10-string as a project, and see how it goes.
I tried a $400 Ibanez 8-string maybe 10 years ago, and sent it right back--cost me about $45 in the end. It was junk and wasn't worth the trouble of trying to make it play well. Trouble is you can't try many 8 strings in person, 'cause very few stores carry more than one or two models if any.
Hahaha! Winger riff FTW!
Could you do an unbiased gear review of one of the Harley Benton 8-strings? Would be much appreciated.
bigfriki it’s coming. There’s one here, it’s just taking me forever to get something done.
What were the scale lengths?
I looked up for a bass from Starshine....
And one of them is like an actual ironing board of the width of the neck.
Finally. Someone who calls pieces of shit out for what they are. Subbed.
Tbh I'd buy it even though there are those issues
I'd just put alot of work into all the mistakes before I actually use it
Then replace the pickups, pots, and toggle with actually good shit
Then the tuners with Hipshot
Then boom
A multiscale workhorse for around 400-500$
Would it seem a good candidate for a project guitar though?
Yes it is.
Agile is Korean and I love them
Replace the bridge pickup and you'd be just fine.