Mild to Wild Bolt In Cams Take Your 114 M8 to the Next Level

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  • @GixxerFoo
    @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +20

    What's your preference? Camshafts that have decent power in all areas or targeting power in the low to mid or mid to high?

    • @rubinthomas1119
      @rubinthomas1119 3 роки тому +4

      I think decent torque through mid range. call me superficial but the way the motor sounds at idle and under throttle is important. If I was going to pick purely on how I want the bike to perform, I would go for a zippers472 but I love the sound off the WM 22XD. It is a difficult decision. Made harder with no real solid tuner solutions for 2021 bikes

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +7

      Power Vision should work for the 21's, that's the best tuner out there.

    • @theirishone99
      @theirishone99 3 роки тому +9

      I prefer to have the torque and power down slightly lower, the S&S 475c is a beast and provides pure power early on where most riders are averaging typical RPMs. Personally the S&S is my choice hands down.

    • @grimmsshenanigansproductions
      @grimmsshenanigansproductions 2 роки тому +3

      Hmm might try that XE

    • @stachethompson6530
      @stachethompson6530 2 роки тому +4

      It would be hard to walk away from that 22XE, but hopefully coming in at 2100 rpm isn't two high an RPM to deal with for a daily rider?

  • @wingerm1
    @wingerm1 Рік тому +5

    Was looking for info on the 22XE. When you came up in the results it’s a no-brainer. Down the rabbit hole we go! Always enjoy your content!!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  11 місяців тому

      Right on! I love it! It's hard to beat that 22XE, it just destroys all the other cams in every single area.

  • @christophervaldes5155
    @christophervaldes5155 2 роки тому +12

    My 2021 Street Glide Special put down 121.14hp and 129.45tq. Screamin Eagle Ventilator Extreme intake, TBR 2 into 1 with turn out exhaust, and S&S 475c cam. Bike is tuned on Power Vision by Abel at Killer Creek Harley Davidson in Roswell, Ga. These M8 engines are incredible. Very little modification to really wake them up. The cam isn't what you'd find in a typical bagger, but I'm not your typical bagger rider. I like that top end power and the never ending pull in the upper rev range.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +3

      That's awesome! That's more than what that high dollar Screamin Eagle 117 stage 4 puts out.

    • @christophervaldes5155
      @christophervaldes5155 2 роки тому +1

      @@GixxerFoo when they showed me the numbers I couldn’t believe it! I’d let you ride it and maybe do a review on it or whatever. For content. Let me know. The bike rips!

  • @FlexR
    @FlexR Рік тому +9

    Just put the Woods 22XE in my 22’ SG and damn! 🔥🔥 You will not be disappointed!!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  10 місяців тому

      Made it come to life did it?! Lol they are some bad ass a cams!! They take advantage of every bit of power you can squeeze out of those M8's without any other modifications.

    • @HDFXSB645
      @HDFXSB645 6 місяців тому

      My brother has this cam in his '23 RG ST. I never got a chance to ride the 117 stock, so I can't compare. But he had me take it for a ride and Holy hell does that thing rip. At that time, my bike was a '14 Breakout. Even being 300 pounds lighter, I didn't stand a chance against his ST.

  • @scottarmstrong1172
    @scottarmstrong1172 3 роки тому +15

    The Woods 22xe in a Street Bob 114 would make a fun ride. Great info as always. Have a great weekend!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +5

      Thank you, you too! I am all about taking the lighter Softail M8'S and putting some crazy power in them!

  • @jimyounger9490
    @jimyounger9490 3 роки тому +21

    Man that woods 22xe seems like the cam for me. That torque curve was absolutely fine !! Keep in mind , the 114 is a stroked 107 with bumped up compression. Two great things.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +4

      You hit the nail on the head! That 22XE is a wild cam it's made to work without the compression, but Wood cams love compression and it will handle a bump.

    • @executioner_ecgbert884
      @executioner_ecgbert884 5 місяців тому +1

      My dad has one in his 117 and I am about to order one for my 107 this winter. Super stoked

  • @jhoang702
    @jhoang702 Рік тому +5

    Just dropped in the 22XE in my Lowrider ST. So happy with it. She pulls hard.

    • @donnyj9487
      @donnyj9487 Рік тому

      But when you just want to cruise how does it feel? I love mobbin, but sometimes I just want to enjoy the ride. How do the feel it performs when you just want to chill?

    • @jhoang702
      @jhoang702 Рік тому +3

      @@donnyj9487 if you want to cruise, it’s doesn’t feel any different. I cruise around 2800-3200 most like when I wanna be a good citizen. But the power is on tap when you need it

    • @pablosclafanijr4565
      @pablosclafanijr4565 11 місяців тому +1

      I second that. I have a stage 2 with the wood 22XE. Love it, really have to know your clutch/gas at stop but when it’s on - it’s on

  • @paulhawkes6030
    @paulhawkes6030 3 роки тому +15

    I like this guy, very informative and humorous at times. What the hell, I'm going for the Wood 22XE. Call me crazy because I am only 170 pounds in weight on a 2021 Softail Standard and never ride two up these days. The thing is my riding style has changed a little as I got older and both curves peaking early is perfect for me. Wish me luck....

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +2

      A 22XE in a Softail Standard?! Now where talking! The lightest of the big twins with the most power you can squeeze into one. The 22XE is a wild cam, that thing will produce some serious power with exhaust and a good tune!

    • @webbsteroni
      @webbsteroni 2 роки тому +1

      Well, @paulhawkes6030 how are you liking that 22XE? Are you visiting the petrol station more often?

    • @jimrhoads9075
      @jimrhoads9075 2 роки тому +2

      @@webbsteroni I actually get better gas mileage as long as I'm not jumping on it at every light

  • @asquared7861
    @asquared7861 3 роки тому +19

    Gixxerfoo with the great info as usual. Underrated content creator.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +2

      Thank you! I appreciate it!

    • @n.a.6735
      @n.a.6735 3 роки тому

      Tell me about it... one helluva channel he's created. When it comes to getn straight to the point with unbiased opinions... the content is second to none!

    • @thedieselpig4448
      @thedieselpig4448 3 роки тому

      Did you test these cams
      On your dyno? Or, did you just search the internet and find some charts? You’re a Johnny come lately who knows how to take others research and development and use it to make yourself into an internet expert? There is no way that cam makes that power with stock headpipe and and stage on intake. Most you’ll get would be 125 ft lbs. blow up the description on the chart. Prove me wrong

  • @daviddeel2201
    @daviddeel2201 Рік тому +1

    I had the S&S on my last bike. It came on later than I like. But it never fell off, all the way to redline. Now I have a 22xe. It has great manners in the lower RPMs. And it pulls all the way to the Rev limiter. Much better all around cam. I’m using thundermax tuner. And they have a base map for the 22xe in the 107, 114 and 117. It took 600 miles to get the S&S autotuned in before it ran good in every gear. But the 22xe was on the money right from the start.

    • @kjmdrumz3
      @kjmdrumz3 Рік тому

      How does that thing sound? I have a 122 and am looking to swap from the SE "Torque" cam.

    • @ceeruger2088
      @ceeruger2088 Рік тому +1

      How is your fuel usage.

  • @bloodymarvelous4790
    @bloodymarvelous4790 3 роки тому +4

    About dyno sheets...
    Peak numbers are just that, peak numbers. They won't tell you how the bike performs across the rev range, for that you need to look at the torque curve. A flatter curve will give you more useable performance over a wider rev range. A lot of the shape of the curve is down to the cam, but a lot is also down to the exhaust system.
    Performance numbers will vary from bike to bike, even with identical setups. Performance numbers will also vary from tuner to tuner. Differences in elevation (air pressure), correction factors (STD vs SAE vs DIN), and dynos will produce different numbers even from the same bike. Don't get too hung up on small differences in numbers, they are likely down to variance.
    Where the curve starts is determined by at what RPM the tuner is starting the pull and where he cuts off the graph. Some will start the pull at 2000 RPM, some at 1500 RPM. That says nothing about where the power comes on. To determine where the power comes on, you need to look at where the torque curve climbs the fastest. The 22X-E curve is a good example (14:20), the tuner cut off the graph at 2100 RPM and yanked the throttle at 2200 RPM. Had he started the pull at 1500 RPM, the torque graph would have plateaued earlier.
    Horsepower will always continue to climb after the torque has peaked. hp = tq * rpm / 5252. As long as the rpms climb faster than the torque drops, your engine continues to produce power and the hp graph will continue to climb. Your engine stops producing power when the torque drops faster than the rpms climb which is after the hp graph has peaked. This is why the rev limiter is set to just after peak hp. There's no benefit going beyond that. Peak horsepower is your ideal upshift point for maximum performance.
    The torque and hp curve will always cross over at 5252 RPM: hp = tq * 5252 / 5252 ... hp = tq * 1 ... hp = tq. The relationship between torque and horsepower is linear. If your engine produces 10% more torque at x-rpm, it will also produce 10% more hp at that same rpm.
    To increase peak horsepower, the cam needs to provide more torque at peak horsepower rpm. Since torque is a curve, if a cam is designed to deliver more torque at higher rpm, that means it will deliver less torque at lower rpm. Most people ride at lower rpm (2000~4000 rpm) than at higher rpm (4000~6000 rpm). You should always pick a cam that performs best in the rev range where you ride.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +3

      That's exactly why you got to pay attention to what's going on with the graph and not focus on those peak numbers. Excellent point!

    • @Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned
      @Old-n-slo-locked-n-leaned 2 роки тому

      Great explanation- thanks!

    • @WangChung69
      @WangChung69 17 днів тому

      You’re a man or woman that knows what you’re talking about.
      I could care less about the HP, it’s the torque that matters to me and the earlier the better.

  • @wjb111
    @wjb111 3 роки тому +47

    Just not the same without the shelf ready to collapse.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +7

      Lol, I feel the same way!

    • @jeffblackmon288
      @jeffblackmon288 2 роки тому

      I've been watching each video looking for a support rafter or evidence of failure🤣

    • @kreghoffner3793
      @kreghoffner3793 2 роки тому

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @Christ31290
      @Christ31290 8 місяців тому

      😂😂

  • @perryhart3172
    @perryhart3172 3 роки тому +2

    One of my favorite creators because u actually respond back, people like that, I get if u had a million sub's, u can't.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +1

      It's tough, but I try to at least read every comment. I try to answer as many comments as possible!

  • @tommiller8714
    @tommiller8714 2 роки тому +7

    That Wood WM8-22XE is impressive in a stock 114. High Torque (hits early, impressive near tabletop flat mid-range, & power in the higher rpm range). The S&S 475 cam is a great all around cam, with nice sound/lope. The Cyclerama 480 cam looks very good also.
    Very curious how the S&S 465 Cam and the Moonshine Harley/Comp Cams 485 Cam compare to the Wood 22XE. A shootout...Touring chassis Harley, Stage-2 114 with stock compression and stock heads, high flow air cleaner and free flowing exhaust system, along with proper Tuning, would be extremely interesting.

    • @dantaylor636
      @dantaylor636 2 роки тому

      Woods WM8 22xd cam in my 2021 flhtk114 has 111 HP and 124 LBS of my TQ.Fell on face at 2000-3000 rpm because of the RCX X1 4.5 mufflers aren't the greatest choice of mufflers for bottom end TQ.

  • @NorCalGuy
    @NorCalGuy 3 роки тому +4

    Awesome spread! Seriously considering the Cycle-Rama

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +1

      It's a really nice cam and to me they don't as much recognition as they deserve!

  • @jr388
    @jr388 3 роки тому +2

    Quickly becoming my go to for info on my 114ci performance.

  • @jimrhoads9075
    @jimrhoads9075 3 роки тому +6

    I'm putting in the woods 22xe cam into my 2019 FLHTK, with a full cobra exhaust, adjustable push rods and an arleness heavy breather. Being done right now Hoping it gives me the get up and go I'm wanting. And of course a good tune.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +1

      The 22XE is a wild cam, your bike going to scream with that cam in there! Those cams put out as much if not more than the Screamin Eagle stage 4 kits.

    • @jimrhoads9075
      @jimrhoads9075 3 роки тому

      @@GixxerFoo I'm hoping for the best. My mechanic is not putting a tuner in, he said he can just flash the ECM. He also said the stock cam plate and lifters will handle the extra power. I trust him cuz he's never steered me wrong. Just wondering your thoughts. And thanks for the reply. Put a smile on my face!

    • @rodneystiegman3158
      @rodneystiegman3158 2 роки тому +1

      Hey Jim,
      how did your install go. Very interested in hearing about it. I am contemplating a woods cam install on my 21 SG 107 and was wondering how the low end torques was for you.

    • @webbsteroni
      @webbsteroni 2 роки тому

      @@jimrhoads9075How are you linking that 22XE? Any issues with the cam chest or valve train?

    • @jimrhoads9075
      @jimrhoads9075 2 роки тому

      @@webbsteroni I'm loving it, pulls great and sounds like a Harley. No issues so far, 10,000 miles and 3 fluid changes.

  • @SamiPorokka
    @SamiPorokka 3 роки тому +2

    I have 30th anniversary fat boy and just ordered woods 22xe with s&s oilpump Kit and extras. I can't wait to get it back after winter.

    • @SamiPorokka
      @SamiPorokka 3 роки тому +1

      Already I had Bassani Road rage 2->1 exhaust and extreme breather. So I think it will be maxed out until maybe 131.

    • @SamiPorokka
      @SamiPorokka 2 роки тому

      Just got numbers back from dyno. 122hp and 178 Nm =132ft lbs.

  • @marcosellitto1269
    @marcosellitto1269 5 місяців тому +2

    by replacing the original CAMs with any of these from your test, you certainly gain power and torque, but what few people say is that it is very difficult to maintain the linearity of the response of the stock bike (I am referring in particular to an ST-117), especially in the low RPMs (from about 1500 to 2500) especially to be able to tune the low RPMs well with the medium RPMs ... it is in this job that almost all CAMs fail ... especially if you try to intervene on an ST-117: we tried (on the ST-117) the RED SHIFT 468, the S&S475 and even the WODD Performance WM8-22XE (also trying all the possible combinations of advance tuners etc etc), but due to the phase delays of these CAMs compared to the original, tuning the initial part of the RPMs well (about 1500-2500), with the medium RPM (after 2500-3000)), are all a tragedy compared to the work of the stock CAM of the ST 117 STOCK bike. For this problem this (especially on an ST-117 engine) of tuning at low rpm, for example the WOOD PERFROMANCE WM8-22X is "TUNED" better than the XE. So since you always make very interesting videos and "breaking with commercial videos" it would be nice to have a video of yours that addresses this problem instead of talking mainly about the increase in performance in terms of power and torque.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  5 місяців тому +1

      I wasn't aware of any issues tuning, we've always had good luck and haven't notice anything too crazy. I'm not a dyno master by any means but I know some guys that work magic in the dyno room. We usually put a canned tune on and run the autotune for fun just till we can get some dyno time. They usually end up pretty close and most times just need a little clean up work.

  • @robertprosser6856
    @robertprosser6856 3 роки тому +4

    The performance improvement from these cams over stantard is massive👍

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +2

      The factory cam and the Screamin Eagle cams don't hold a candle to even the mildest aftermarket cams.

    • @robertprosser6856
      @robertprosser6856 3 роки тому

      @@GixxerFoo 22XE for me as with most on here. But I'll have my Fat Bob stage1 till the warranty expires March 2023 then go for the cam upgrade and whatever else needed for reliability👍

    • @webbsteroni
      @webbsteroni 2 роки тому +1

      @@robertprosser6856 It’s getting close to time for that Stage 2!

  • @corey1887
    @corey1887 2 роки тому +6

    Just put an S&S 475 in my 2019 ultra limited. Your videos really persuaded me to do the cam install. And now my M8 114 sounds and runs amazingly.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +3

      That's awesome! M8's seriously wake up with a good cam like that 475 and they sound like a Harley again! With the M8 idling at 850 rpm instead of 1,000 rpm like the twin cam they sound really good!

    • @MrTheDays1
      @MrTheDays1 2 роки тому +1

      @@GixxerFoo yes it does I just installed it Sunday morning and did a 173 mile ride just after man! That ide!!! Chop chop

    • @morrisdennis
      @morrisdennis Рік тому

      Great choice 👌

    • @morrisdennis
      @morrisdennis Рік тому

      Excellent choice

  • @geraldgoodiii6993
    @geraldgoodiii6993 4 дні тому

    124 11:1
    Stock head
    Dragos 485 cam
    132/153
    PERFECT dyno chart.
    No dip in tq on there
    Instant tq and just goes from there
    Def a cam ppl sleeping on or don’t even know about

  • @donbetscher94
    @donbetscher94 3 роки тому +4

    Liked it!!!! Have a twin cam now and am looking to get into an M8 114 in the near future. Great info as always. I’m kinda stuck on the Woods for my twin cam and now I’m thinking in the near future the same for the M8. Thanks!!

  • @chrisl.7345
    @chrisl.7345 11 місяців тому

    I installed the 468 Zipper’s in my 2017 FLHTK and it works excellent for me, covers all my needs for Touring Power 👍🏻

  • @Gixx459
    @Gixx459 8 місяців тому +1

    how do you feel about star racing 30/30

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  8 місяців тому

      That's a hot cam, very popular street cam! Star make killer products, it's very comparable to Wood in my opinion.

  • @MrTheDays1
    @MrTheDays1 3 роки тому +2

    got the s&s 475c kit coiming in the mail for my 2021 fxbbs
    114

  • @adamessayli8671
    @adamessayli8671 2 роки тому +4

    I got the 22XE in my 2018 heritage classic with the 107. It’s like a new Bike with the full stage 2 now.
    108HP@ 5.61 RPM
    122 ftlbs @3.48
    Bike becomes a beast @3krpm
    2500rpm and under, power is flat

  • @briandorsey3608
    @briandorsey3608 3 роки тому +11

    Got the Woods 22XE in my 114 Breakout. Also have the Woods lifters, S&S adjustable pushrods, billet tappet retainer, chain tensioner, cam chest and oil pump, and Andrews crank sprocket. The bike is a beast and pulls hard through every gear. Completely different bike now and sounds amazing.

    • @leonardstanford1877
      @leonardstanford1877 3 роки тому

      Way to go sounds like you did it right taking care off some M8 issues !

    • @briandorsey3608
      @briandorsey3608 3 роки тому +1

      @@leonardstanford1877 Yes, I also put in a fueling vented dipstick as well as did an air intake vented system on my bike. No more dirty heated oil going back into the intake. If you have a Harley, this is a must.

    • @canttalk
      @canttalk 3 роки тому

      @@briandorsey3608 I have an 19 breakout how bad is the fuel mileage after you did all this to your breakout? I ask because I would like to put this cam in my breakout so any information would gladly be appreciated sir.

    • @briandorsey3608
      @briandorsey3608 3 роки тому +3

      @@canttalk To be honest Brian, I have noticed I burn through my gas a little bit faster than I did before. I have not done any long rides so I could compare but it just seems that way. But it was well worth it. Even if that is the case, I would not change a thing I did.

    • @canttalk
      @canttalk 3 роки тому +2

      @@briandorsey3608 thank you sir my bike is stock other than I put Rinehart slip-on on it...but I do alot of long distance riding so that was my main concern but still as long as it's not to much difference I might go ahead and do it. Again thank you sir for your feedback and ride safe keep two wheels down and have a blessed day sir

  • @MechTech5000
    @MechTech5000 9 місяців тому +1

    I just got a street bob with a 114 I love it and am thinking of upgrading the cam. I guess it would be mostly for the sound because if I wanna go fast I will just buy a sport bike with more lean angle I miss my Honda CBR for that.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  9 місяців тому +1

      The right cam like a Wood WM8 22XE with a good exhaust and tune will make your street bob think it's a sport bike! That bike is light "for a Harley", but with the horsepower and torque a cam would give it you wouldn't want to underestimate it.

  • @mikedanaher3413
    @mikedanaher3413 3 роки тому +2

    Wow. Great stuff 👍. Ride safe and have a great weekend. 🇺🇸

  • @Mik35959
    @Mik35959 5 місяців тому

    Im waiting to take delivery of my 2020 114 my last bike was s 2009 street glide 96 with a screaming eagle big bore racing kit and these numbers are higher with just cams i need to research because ive read some comments about failure its a huge difference for alot less money it was a long time ago and if i remembet correctly it was over $4000 plus tuner and i think it pealed at 116hp

  • @RookieRay
    @RookieRay 2 роки тому +2

    With a good pipe and drop in kn filter that cr480 has the stock injector cycle tapped out at peak torque! Here in Australia companies like APE have 130hp builds with that cam on the 114 with 6.2gps injectors and 64mm m

    • @979tuhy
      @979tuhy Рік тому

      Yeah that CR cam blows the rest away with the rest of the important stuff done. These are just stage 1 numbers. CR480 is a monster

  • @geneschiele1576
    @geneschiele1576 Рік тому

    I have the 468 red shift. Fueling cam plate and fueling oil pump. Bassani road rage 2 into one. Very very satisfied.

  • @JohnSmith-de2mz
    @JohnSmith-de2mz 9 місяців тому +1

    I have a 03 FXD 95 inch Twin Cam with the Wood TG8 gear drive cams. LOVE em

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  9 місяців тому

      Wood cams are just simply hard to beat!! They make more power than most big bore kits out there with no more than a cam swap.

  • @Evan-3355
    @Evan-3355 3 роки тому +1

    Getting a S&S 475 fitted as we speak. Going on my '21 fat bob with vance and hines short shots, screamin eagle heavy breather and tuner. Can't wait to pick it up.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +1

      That's awesome! It's gonna be a whole new bike when you get that back, those cams make some power and you'll really feel it with that Fat Bob.

  • @TonyLutziFlaRep
    @TonyLutziFlaRep 2 роки тому +2

    114 SGS, what about the Star 30/30?? I hear good things on low end with these.

  • @rogerrowe264
    @rogerrowe264 9 місяців тому +1

    22XE on my 2021 Street Glide Special 114 and love it.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  9 місяців тому

      That cam right there makes Screamin Eagle stage 4 power for less than half the cost with installation!

  • @backyardspeed3992
    @backyardspeed3992 3 роки тому +5

    Im thinking the woods cams are always killing it in torque production... Im going with woods M8 222xe on my 2020 soft tail low rider s.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому

      That's going to be fun cam in a Low Rider S, big power and light weight!

  • @timnevitt2993
    @timnevitt2993 2 роки тому

    i just bought a 2022 road glide and been watching a lot of cam vids and so far i think im going with s&s 475 but have not decited chain or gear

  • @sunilkrishna5519
    @sunilkrishna5519 Рік тому +2

    I have decided to go with the CR480, S&S lifters, S&S adjustable pushrods, S&S tappet cuffs, S&S intake, Screaming Eagle extreme breather and the Bassani Ripper exhaust. Let's see what number I'll get.

  • @johnford3761
    @johnford3761 Рік тому +1

    Have you looked at the 22xd? Great video by the way.

  • @AmericanPatriot-cw9xe
    @AmericanPatriot-cw9xe 2 роки тому

    very solid great advice for bolt on power n great sound for our loved 114 m8's Thanks for making this video, once I put a cam in I will never go back to a stage 1 only upgrade, especially on the m8 114 motor, soon as my warranty expires im going to out the woods extreme ! it has a long time at peak torque n high horsepower woods 22 ex but the zippers is all you need and more!,

  • @MotorCity2up
    @MotorCity2up 7 місяців тому +2

    What you got for the 117 new Harley models??? Any suggestions

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  7 місяців тому +1

      I am hoping we see some data on those soon, haven't seen on cam swapped yet. Still waiting to run across one out on the road.

  • @tdog8507
    @tdog8507 3 роки тому +2

    Went with the RS468. S&S oil pump and decatted headpipe, vented dipstick. Love it.

    • @terrible1kid
      @terrible1kid Рік тому

      Does it pull hard? I am going with the same set up, but with the tab performance 2-1-2 headpipe. Although i put on the vented dipstick, I'm going to upgrade to the S&S cam plate and oil pump.

    • @tdog8507
      @tdog8507 Рік тому

      @@terrible1kid I ended up 126Tq 106hp. Max Tq from 2500 to 4000rpm. Still pulls strong to redline.

    • @DatzDog
      @DatzDog Рік тому +1

      ​@terrible1kid how do you like the rs468 ? I'm doing same setup 212 tab header 4inch bam stick zombie baffle with high flow air cleaner pv4 tune

  • @MiguelGarcia-oh8nn
    @MiguelGarcia-oh8nn Рік тому +2

    Awesome video! I am a big fan of zippers but like the S&S a bit better. I would do the Woods XE just to go all out with no second thoughts or what if’s… my only concern is reliability. What do you think would be the best considering longevity and reliability? Thanks again!

  • @ronniedow1139
    @ronniedow1139 Рік тому

    Great videos so much information I just wish someone would make sound 19:16 clips of all these cams at idle

  • @shanehazelton8754
    @shanehazelton8754 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome video
    Just picked up a low rider st
    What cam would you throw in a m8117 with tbr exhaust

  • @403punk3
    @403punk3 Рік тому +1

    Dang that XE looks sick!

  • @tommiller8714
    @tommiller8714 3 роки тому +5

    All these cams are great bolt-in cams. My preference, based on Torque Curve (approx. 2000-4000 rpm) is the Woods 22XE. I'm already planning on this cam combined with a good 2-1 exhaust (and supporting other mods) for my '21 RGS with the 114 M8. Thanks for the video. Would like to see a Part 2 to this (Bolt-in Cams, 114 M8)...Zippers 472 Cam, S&S 465 Cam, HD SE 447 Torque Cam, maybe a few others. Thanks!

    • @jerryandrews3699
      @jerryandrews3699 3 роки тому +3

      Just installed the 22xe...its bad ass

    • @morsog1287
      @morsog1287 2 роки тому

      What other mods other than the 2-1?

    • @tommiller8714
      @tommiller8714 2 роки тому +1

      @@morsog1287 Other mods (as of 3/16/2022) to my '21RGS-114: FM/K&N Air Cleaner Kit # FM-3956; Trask M8 Checkvent (to ventilate crankcase); HD Fan (added to Oil Cooler); Fuel Moto Dynojet PV3 Tuner w/Tune provided by Fuel Moto. Running stock HD 12mm narrow band O2 sensors at this time; plan to add Target Tune w/18mm wide band O2 sensors down the road. As of right now, regarding Stage-2 Cam, looking at the Woods 22X and 22XE. Tom Miller

    • @johnford3761
      @johnford3761 Рік тому +1

      @@jerryandrews3699how’s this cam performing? Any other mods?

    • @jerryandrews3699
      @jerryandrews3699 Рік тому

      @@johnford3761 S&S 129 kit, HPi 62mm TB, 6.2 injectors, upgrades compensator, and a few back tires.

  • @TheJdangle
    @TheJdangle Рік тому +2

    What cam makes it sound better? The s&s 475 or the wood 22xe ?

  • @jasongallagher7646
    @jasongallagher7646 2 роки тому +2

    Nice comparison bro. I like the Zippers over all, if you just wanna cam tune and pipes. Great daily ride. If you want to pump it up a little, then the S&S for sure for performance!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      Right on, that Zippers is an awesome cam. A friend of mine we put one in his 2018 Street Glide, that really made that bike come to life and it was just smooth and easy to ride.

  • @RyanKeating-c9n
    @RyanKeating-c9n 6 місяців тому

    I have the S&S 475 cam in my 21 fatbob, 2 into 1 2 brothers exhaust and screaming eagle heavy breather. 121hp it’s a beast.

  • @MarkAhart
    @MarkAhart 3 роки тому +2

    22XE, all the way

  • @stevenm4743
    @stevenm4743 12 годин тому

    Do these cams stress the engine and affect longevity / reliability? What about temperature, do these cams cause higher temps?

  • @ionelmusi5119
    @ionelmusi5119 Рік тому

    Great info on this vdeo, I have one questions regarding Anderews cams, I didnt find much info about them. I see they have a new 465B and wonder if you have anything about this one.

  • @CVO_MAN
    @CVO_MAN 2 роки тому +3

    Great video! Really well done. I have an S&S 475 but I must admit that the Wood 22XE is a beast! I might consider this Cam with the SE Stage 3 122 kit.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +2

      475 is a really good cam, that 22XE is the SE stage kit destroyer!

    • @travislister7909
      @travislister7909 2 роки тому

      What kind of power are you getting with the aftermarket cam in the 122

  • @stephenthomas2187
    @stephenthomas2187 10 місяців тому +1

    @Gixxerfoo that’s awesome info and I’ll do a bit more research , but hey bud please keep up the great vids.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  10 місяців тому

      Absolutely I plan on continuing to keep spreading the good word! It's really hard to beat the Wood, but the best thing to do is look at as many dyno charts as you can and see where the horsepower and torque comes on. Compare that to where you normally ride and you can pick the absolute best cam for where you ride.

  • @ericheseman7593
    @ericheseman7593 3 роки тому +2

    Woods XE GO FOR THE BEST AND BIGGEST. THANK You my Dear friend. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ALWAYS. ERIC

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +1

      Same to you! The XE is one monster cam and blows away the SE stage 4 kits.

  • @bentbars9366
    @bentbars9366 3 роки тому +1

    I have the Zippers cam and D&D 2 into 1 pipes (love it)!

  • @ThePNWRiderWA
    @ThePNWRiderWA 3 роки тому +2

    The woods cams are impressive.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +1

      Bob Wood makes a great product, it's ground by Andrews too!

  • @CJCon885
    @CJCon885 2 роки тому

    Am going to upgrade to the 22xe for how I ride. Thanks for the nfo!!

  • @jacobgagnon8195
    @jacobgagnon8195 3 роки тому +1

    Got me the wood 22xe on its way. Ordered that and oil pump cam plate, tappet covers amd quickie pushrods

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому

      Nice! That bike is going to rip with that cam in there, the idle is going to sound insane!

    • @radumihaibadescu5089
      @radumihaibadescu5089 3 роки тому

      Can you get problems with the engine ? How many miles you can drive with no problem with this cam ?

  • @joewho4339
    @joewho4339 2 роки тому +1

    How does the brand tuner used effect each cam?

  • @morrisdennis
    @morrisdennis Рік тому

    I had the 475 s&s in my 107 road king se tuner it was fantastic!😮😊

  • @GodInTheMachine
    @GodInTheMachine 3 роки тому +5

    How hard would each be on the valve train

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +3

      They are all designed for stock springs, but I would imagine the Wood XE might be a little rough in the long run. The Red Shift and S&S would likely be the safest cams for the valve train. I personally haven't seen any issues myself running aggressive bolt in cams with the stock valve springs but there's always failure stories out there.

    • @TeensierPython
      @TeensierPython 3 роки тому

      Harley offers and warranties some high lift stuff. So using that should give you some safety margin? I have a stage IV and the valve train is pretty noisy though.

    • @bloodymarvelous4790
      @bloodymarvelous4790 3 роки тому

      The highest lift cam in this set is the Cycle Rama at .480, followed by the S&S at .475. The Wood 22X-E is a .470 cam but with an aggressive lobe design. The 22X-E is a little harsher on the lifters. The springs should be fine though.
      When installing a different cam it is highly recommended to replace the lifters, and to make sure they're compatible with the lobe design. S&S, Wood, or Feuling lifters are probably the way to go.

  • @leonardstanford1877
    @leonardstanford1877 3 роки тому +7

    The M8 motor has quite a few areas that are prone to failure ( lifter,valve seats loose, sumping problems , etc ) even with so called bolt in cams can excellerate those issues ! I suggest searching for the aftermarket fixes for those issues before or while you are installing even a bolt in cam ! If you have a problem while under warranty HD is going to put the same junk parts that failed back in your bike !

    • @acef4389
      @acef4389 3 роки тому +4

      For free under warranty,out of warranty gut the cam chest and throw a cam behind an s&s pump/plate/lifters/cuffs/pushrods,then enjoy the bike

    • @Jonathan-L
      @Jonathan-L 3 роки тому +1

      You raise some vital points there Leonard. I'm not an M8 owner, but if I were to do the stage 2 upgrade with any of the top rated cams, I'd be inclined to upgrade the oil pump, lifters, Dark Horse Man-O-War compensator, maybe the cooling jet oilers, a Screamin' Eagle Variable Pressure Clutch (plus anything else that's essential).

    • @leonardstanford1877
      @leonardstanford1877 3 роки тому

      @@Jonathan-L right on do it right or don't do it !

    • @marvelharris9540
      @marvelharris9540 Рік тому

      They updated the oil pump in 2020, so its not an issue any longer. Many have over 60k miles with a stage II using stock cam plate, compensators, clutch etc.. and no issues. 2020 and up seems to be good.@@leonardstanford1877

  • @kellypierce9747
    @kellypierce9747 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks so much for the videos... They are awesome... And recommendations for my set-up? 2019 RGS 114 M8.... I have the HD heavy breather... Tab performance 2-1-2 header w/ Tab zombie mufflers.... Being told that this exhaust will rob me of gains... Really sucks since I just did the exhaust a few months ago.... Any thoughts are much appreciated

  • @Wild-Wisdom
    @Wild-Wisdom 3 роки тому +4

    My local shop is suggesting a CR-482, adjustable pushrods, lifters and intake manifold. Claiming around 130hp / 120Tq. With a 114 low rider s, said if it was a bagger he'd suggest the CR-480 but being a lighter bike he thinks the CR-482 is the way to go. I suppose I'll just trust them. I can't find any videos of the 482.

    • @RookieRay
      @RookieRay 2 роки тому

      Hey did you end up doing this? Are you in Australia? Darling downs Harley have suggested the cr483 with the same package

    • @RookieRay
      @RookieRay 2 роки тому

      You’ll need new injectors as well 6.2gps

    • @Wild-Wisdom
      @Wild-Wisdom 2 роки тому

      @@RookieRay funny you say that, I'm in the states but I heard darling downs had a 483 so I emailed them and they said they just sold it. APE that you buy the 483 from is out of stock until April and I have decided to wait, I am in fact going to put the 483 in there when I get it. So it's looking like it will be the end of April or some time in May when I do it.

    • @kyleclark5635
      @kyleclark5635 2 роки тому

      I have the CR-482 in my 124 street glide and it rips. 149/151. Now looking for a cam for my FXFB

  • @titratetim
    @titratetim 3 роки тому +4

    I think I just watched this video for the 50th time. Great video. I am in the process of picking out a cam for my 2020 Ultra Limited to do over the winter which will be the Zippers or S&S. My confusion is what to do about the head pipe, should I go with the Khrome Werks 2-2 and get rid of the cat or no?
    The second question is should we do the S&S oil pump and cam plate as long as it's open?

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +2

      For sure I would get the head pipe and get rid of the cat, you'll really appreciate the performance gain with the new cam and not to mention the heat reduction. For sure if you can swing the extra cash the oil pump and cam plate is a excellent option, while you're in there for the cam is the time to do it. Check your run out on the pinion though, for the S&S race plate you'll want to be below .005 run out. Another great option to pair with is the Feuling OE cam plate, it has higher run out tolerances and you can use the Feuling high volume oil pump. Here's a video about the sumping and how the high volume oil pumps and cam plates will help tremendously with that ua-cam.com/video/uoDPqUj8Ajw/v-deo.html.

  • @cameronbartley6139
    @cameronbartley6139 6 місяців тому

    Yes i just had a S&S 475 WITH A 64mm Throttle body and in take basani 2 in to 1 and dyno tuned
    117 hp 125fpt

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  6 місяців тому

      That's some killer numbers!!! That 2 into 1 makes a big difference!

    • @cameronbartley6139
      @cameronbartley6139 6 місяців тому

      @@GixxerFoo
      It alive now...

  • @lozada1971
    @lozada1971 2 роки тому +2

    Great video. Would love to see same style of video with a 117 (CVO AND ST Model)

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +1

      I'll have to do a cam video on the new 117 models here soon!

  • @johnperry612
    @johnperry612 2 роки тому +4

    Great info as usual. It's been a year since part 1, would love to see part 2. You have two of the top 5 bolt-in cams that I have narrowed down my selection too. Woods 222 xe, cycle rama 480, star racing 30-30, Chris Rivas rocket cam 474, T man m8 216. I will be choosing one of these cams for M8 114 build

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  2 роки тому +9

      Just my two cents but that Wood 222XE is a power house, it sounds very healthy at idle, going through the gears and running down the road. It puts down just as much power as a 5K dollar investment in a 114 to 117 stage 4 Screamin Eagle kit. With that cam it's almost laughable to tell someone "oh it's just got a little cam in it" lol.

    • @Dobber227
      @Dobber227 2 роки тому

      @@GixxerFoo based on what I'm seeing, the cr480 is putting out comparable numbers to the 22xe. I was going to go with the xe but I'm leaning toward cr480 now.

    • @georgewilliams9480
      @georgewilliams9480 Рік тому

      I'm going to have to go with 222xe SE cam plate got a new oil pump and get the d&d FatCat. 🤘💪

  • @jamescilley6426
    @jamescilley6426 8 місяців тому +1

    How about a cam for the 2024 117 road glide

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  8 місяців тому

      We haven't seen anything for the new 117 engines, they are a little different than the CVO 117 from years past.

  • @cranky326
    @cranky326 3 роки тому +2

    Right on Man. I can’t see your hands👍🏻😉

  • @jameshefferman6492
    @jameshefferman6492 9 місяців тому +1

    Do you have a cam video for the 117 in the STs

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  9 місяців тому

      I haven't done a video on the 117's but they are really close to the 114 numbers, maybe just a hair more horsepower and torque.

  • @white_devil73
    @white_devil73 3 роки тому +2

    I can attest to the Wood cam being worth every penny and far better than any SE cam

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +1

      Wood cams are very hard to beat for all around power production. There only downside is they can be a bit noisier than other cams, but to me the gains are absolutely worth it.

    • @white_devil73
      @white_devil73 3 роки тому +1

      @@GixxerFoo while I miss the traditional Harley "lope," I love that anyone who knows motors and Harleys can tell that my bike is cammed. The only downside i have is the mileage I get when I decide to flog her a bit. My bike has a 3.3 gallon tank. If I'm going down the highway at 80mph I can normally get about 150 miles of range. If I'm riding around town with friends and flogging her a bit, I'll run through a tank in a day. The Wood cam makes her thirsty as hell when you open her up. The trade-off is that with close to 130ft/lbs of torque and close to 120hp depending on the air temp, I'm too busy hanging on to worry about fuel costs. The adrenaline rush and smile i get are worth every penny.

  • @vernlochtefeld1626
    @vernlochtefeld1626 3 роки тому +3

    I think somewhere you should have noted that these dynos were done by the Mfrs with various air cleaners intakes exhaust systems tuners & dynos. So these comparisons are only moderately apples to apples.
    The setup specifics need to be sought out & considered for use in decision making with regards to a consumers bike.
    Also aftermarket cams & tuners on a new bike voids warranty. It is something to be considered. I likely will upgrade to aftermarket parts eventually so I am actually pro aftermarket. But for now the SE breather, SE tuner, SE-498 cam, etc allowed my 114 to make 116 HP 116 TQ which is performance competitive here AND retained full factory warranty.
    Plus since it was bought within 60 days of bike purchase it got MoCo’s 20 percent off discount making it price competitive as well.
    We pay for that warranty as part of a new bike purchase. I see no sense in letting MoCo off the hook unless there is no better way to get what I want.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому

      Those are some really solid numbers with the SE cams! For the most part exhaust systems and air cleaners are pretty comparable. When you get down to trying to get absolute peak dyno numbers an exhaust swap can make a difference plus or minus in the horsepower. Any aftermarket cam choice is going to make a huge difference in the feel of bike, no doubt though under warranty stick to the SE parts or wait till the warranty is up.

    • @vernlochtefeld1626
      @vernlochtefeld1626 3 роки тому

      @@GixxerFoo Yeah it was a good tune even had to use a 117ci map to get the fuel. But hey still covered under warranty and EPA approved exhaust etc.
      The SE-517 cam (stage 4) I’m sure could have made better peak HP numbers but I wasn’t going that far. No heads or injectors etc either.
      19k miles so far and zero issues. My warranty expires shortly. Not sure if I want to mess with a great running bike. Might hold off on upgrades till next winter.

    • @vernlochtefeld1626
      @vernlochtefeld1626 2 роки тому

      @@GixxerFoo Ran across this again so I thought I would give you an update. Bike now has 37k zero issues. I've only made one mechanical mod. I removed the Db reducer. Its a pretty universal design 3 hole flange in a 4" pipe with a pipe diameter of 1.75". Fuel moto has them except 2" ID all you do is cut it to the same internal length as your stock Db reducer and bolt it in. Shortly after I won a free dyno pull. What do you know it picked up 2 HP & 6 TQ. 118 HP 122 TQ. Could be good air a happy dyno whatever but I suspect it was the Db reducer. On top of that it sounds better at idle and under load. Not a lot louder but enough to easily hear the difference. Cheap easy mod for anyone can do.

  • @tricgix2949
    @tricgix2949 2 роки тому +1

    Just wondering what you think which cam the softails would like? Mine is the the 114 Street Bob and am thinking about the SS cam with a Fuel Moto Power Vision tune. Any thoughts.

  • @Matosjay
    @Matosjay 2 місяці тому +2

    Woods wm 22 Xe is where it’s at..

  • @epowell01
    @epowell01 26 днів тому

    How about the 480MT? And your opinion on the 22 RGS oval Ventilator vs. 117 Heavy Breather air cleaner. Which is better?

  • @shasiceruti8994
    @shasiceruti8994 3 роки тому

    Very informative! Thanks for sharing!

  • @robertyoung5678
    @robertyoung5678 Рік тому

    Awesome video !👍 i have 2019 heritage 107 an what would be a good cam for wanting to run o to 60 for quick runs ???

  • @HvyMetal4Ever
    @HvyMetal4Ever 3 роки тому +2

    That 22XE in a big bagger would be great for 2up riders going on long trips. More than enough tq to get you moving, but tons of HP available for passing on the interstate.

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +2

      The XE is a wild cam, it will give you all you want for sure! It lays down numbers better than the Screamin Eagle stage kits!

    • @HvyMetal4Ever
      @HvyMetal4Ever 3 роки тому

      @@GixxerFoo The only reason I would go to the screamin bird is because of warranty coverage. You can still hotrod your bike, but not be left out thousands of dollars if something goes wrong.

    • @inglewoodblackman6038
      @inglewoodblackman6038 3 роки тому

      Is it good for long trips?Does it make your bike hot?

  • @glennbouquillon4268
    @glennbouquillon4268 2 роки тому +1

    Would U do a HP Torque chart on the Star 485 cam ?

  • @toddorlando4210
    @toddorlando4210 3 роки тому +2

    Great video, my question is what exhaust were they using???

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому

      On the dyno graphs those RineHart true dual for the most part.

  • @Jameskenomis3
    @Jameskenomis3 Рік тому +2

    Do a 117 please!

  • @Stanyx01
    @Stanyx01 3 роки тому +1

    Love the show!
    2 aspects of cams I don't hear you speak off:
    Influence of cam timing on static vs dynamic compression - can a cam compensate for a factory low compression?
    How aggressive are cams on the valve train; steep vs round lobe profiles

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +2

      That's a great point, for these videos I try to keep it simple for picking a cam but I can look at doing some really in depth videos on how and why the cams do what they do.

    • @normanmatura6769
      @normanmatura6769 3 роки тому +6

      I think that if he would have gone off and try to speak about that he would have bored a lot of people especially with giving too much information that people really don't understand or even want to know about just showing the end results of what the cams do and what their numbers are is basically what everyone's looking for anything more than that they can take it up with their own mechanics

    • @thomastuorto9929
      @thomastuorto9929 3 роки тому +2

      @@normanmatura6769 I just want to know that no matter what gear I'm in, when I roll on the throttle, the front wheel will come up !

  • @Spivitz71
    @Spivitz71 3 роки тому +1

    Bought wood 22xe today. Adding Bassani 1s94r too 💪👍😎

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому

      That's gonna be a whole new world when you get that cam installed!

  • @rickybenoit1593
    @rickybenoit1593 7 місяців тому +1

    Is this an advantage for Trikes with M8 114’s? 2023 Road glide 3/ Free wheelers ?

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  7 місяців тому +1

      Oh yeah, a cam in a trike would make a huge difference with the added weight on those.

  • @Nate8886
    @Nate8886 3 роки тому +1

    Have you done any dyno runs with the TTS 250

  • @marvinr5054
    @marvinr5054 Рік тому +1

    Hey there... So I wonder if any of these cams can be used with a stockhead pipe and stock mufflers to build a stump puller and all around sleeper?

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  11 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely they can be tuned with the stock header and exhaust... horsepower will be cut but they will make some serious toque like you wouldn't believe!

  • @MarvFitBikesKicks
    @MarvFitBikesKicks 2 роки тому +1

    How does a high performance cam like the 22xe hold up on long distance riding? Does it put a strain on any other parts at steady idle since it seems like it always wants to rip and run?

  • @captg9532
    @captg9532 6 місяців тому +1

    are the dynos results have any upgrades other then the cam? like manifold,injectors, air filter and header pipes?

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  6 місяців тому

      These are just basic cam swaps, with a high flow air cleaner and running a "race use exhaust" full head pipe with aftermarket mufflers and a tune.

  • @rhodyriderz
    @rhodyriderz 7 місяців тому +1

    What was The Set up on The Bike that produced Those #s WM8-22XE? intake,Headers,mufflers injectors ext….

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  7 місяців тому +1

      A good dyno tune and a two into one exhaust is the basics there with that cam. They will get right up there with a good exhaust of any kind and even canned tune for the cam and high flow exhaust with air cleaner.

  • @patrickstevens5457
    @patrickstevens5457 3 роки тому +2

    Have you looked at Star Racing's 30-30 cam?

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому +1

      I haven't heard of them before, I am going to check them out! Thank you for the suggestion, I need to look into some lesser known manufacturers for cams out there.

    • @patrickstevens5457
      @patrickstevens5457 3 роки тому +3

      @@GixxerFoo it's George Bryce's company so, good stuff

  • @Mandevillesmostelgiblebachelor
    @Mandevillesmostelgiblebachelor 2 роки тому

    Why no mention of the exhaust used in these tests?

  • @dmitrykhramov1832
    @dmitrykhramov1832 3 роки тому +2

    I simply cannot believe that 22XE can achieve numbers like that with only exhaust, intake and a tune , considering that it is their chart 🤔!
    That test bike must be “massaged” to perfection 🤔
    It is impressive though, none the less!

    • @GixxerFoo
      @GixxerFoo  3 роки тому

      Wood really can pull the numbers on a M8, just have to use a good exhaust and have it tuned well.

    • @jeffrobbins179
      @jeffrobbins179 3 роки тому +1

      They can, and it does.. it’s a picky cam to tune, not just any exhaust system will get you there, but the right one will, my set up got me 118/125

    • @jeffrobbins179
      @jeffrobbins179 3 роки тому +2

      I have sound clip vids on my channel Also, fuel Moto and wood’s web sites have dozens of dyno charts with various set ups, all achieving similar #’s

  • @morrisdennis
    @morrisdennis Рік тому +1

    The s&s 475 is hard 2 beat...

    • @Dave-x8j
      @Dave-x8j Рік тому +1

      Maybe only perhaps by the 465 if you like torque down low?

  • @dexterscott7531
    @dexterscott7531 3 роки тому +1

    Great video

  • @chilliard5864
    @chilliard5864 3 роки тому +4

    Hi GixxerFoo ! I recently found your channel. Love the videos and information you provide and this in particular was a great comparison video. I have a question regarding cam upgrades... They always do these comparisons to a stock setup versus cam + pipes + air intake updates. I know it probably doesn't get the most out of any cam upgrade, but was wondering... What would the numbers look like if you only put in a cam and did a tune? Are they very marginal or half-way decent? Personally, I find the stock setup pretty good so aren't really looking for monster upgrades. I generally like the quieter sound from the stock setup (of my 2021 Road King Special) but wouldn't mind getting some lope put into the M8. And who doesn't like a bit more power. So I was thinking... I'd like to keep the overall pipe noise down, gain some lope, and don't need all the power gains... what if I just add the cam + tune to a completely stock setup?
    Keep up the great work!

    • @webbsteroni
      @webbsteroni 2 роки тому +1

      Sounds like you should replace the EFI with a carburetor. 😅