Installing a 220/240v 50A Outlet
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- A 240 volt outlet can be used for a lot. Charging cars, heavy machinery, welders, etc... Here's what I did to install my #electrical #outlet
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Finally, someone who doesn't drag the video on and on and on. Explains it thoroughly. Out to hook mine up now. Thanks.
No problem.
Amen!
How did it go Mark?
Mine went great.
Yes agreed!!! Great video.
Good job explaining how to do the project. My confidence level has gone up from 0 to 99. Thanks.
No problem. Glad you got something out of it. Good luck with your project and stay safe. Thanks for watching!
Your explanation is the most detailed among all youtubers.Thanks so much. I know nothing about installing electricity outlets before.After I watch your video I did it myself. Thanks again.
Thanks Shaobo. I'm glad you got something out of it. I am not an expert though. So if you have any doubts about what you're doing please ask your local electrician. They are a much better information source. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingOutBack I know that. Also thanks for your video.
I just started watching this and you said you got shocked as a kid and became interested in electricity. I am an electrical engineer and I, too, formed a fascinaion with electricity when I was about five and got shocked taking down the Christmas tree lights. I yelped and told my dad there was a bug in the socket that bit me. He then explained elecricity and even got me some electrical hardware from the garage to play with. All downhill from there.
It's oddly a draw for some people. That's a great story and it seems to have guided your life to your current occupation. My experience definitely did for me. Radio shack and I became good friends after that. Thanks for watching!
I wouldn't say that it was downhill from there because now that the shocking experience made you a professional, I'd say that your experience definitely drove you uphill from there😂👍👍👍
Great way of looking at it!
Hey so I also have a similar story. When I was 5 years old back in 1986 my older brother was electrocuted. He was 15, he made a dumb mistake and tried climbing a tower. He was almost to the top when it suddenly arced and hit him with enough juice to kill him instantly. Another kid was halfway up the tower while two others were watching from the ground. Needless to say I had a pretty big fear and respect for electric after that. When I turned 16 and started driving i got into car audio, it made me nervous at first but i got over it. I wouldn't dare touch any AC electric type of stuff until about 3-4 years ago. It didnt take long until I was completely intrested in learning as much as possible. I am so thankful and greatful I was able to conquer that fear. I just wish I started sooner now!
Wow Joseph. I'm so sorry to hear about your brother. I can only imagine what that was like and how it shaped your life. There are few things that have changed society and demanded respect that I can think of as electricity. Every diy skill and subject carries with it risk and we take on that risk when we decide to do it ourselves vs. hire a professional. All that to say, I'm glad you're growing past your fears while bringing your respect to keep yourself safe. I hope you have many safe and successful electrical projects in your future and thanks for watching! Be well.
I liked how you labeled everything in the video! Good job!
Thanks and thanks for watching!
Really great video, clear and concise. Glad you mentioned the welder in the comments. I was thinking you were installing a 50A inlet for a generator and I had concerns! Thumbs up 👍
Thanks Michael, I appreciate that. There have been a lot of generator comments. Not what it's for. Glad you liked the video. Thanks for watching!
Thank you!!! Parts list and schematics were on point* can’t wait to install 🤩.
Glad you liked it. Good luck with your project! Stay safe.
Your presentation was
A+, hope you do more on electrical esp. portable generators
to power if blackout, whole house etc. I prefer a A+ man, concise, on pt. good tone!
many storms out there!
Thanks Albert, but keep in mind this was not a generator hookup. It was a 50A outlet for a welder and other large equipment in my shop. A generator hookup requires a bunch of other steps to make it safe for you and the people working on the power lines during a power outage. Check out info online specific to generator hookups. Thanks for watching!
Fantastic video and info! You're the kind of friend and neighbor we all need!! Well done!
Thanks, I appreciate that. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
awesome video - short and to the point - well edited - thanks for sharing!
Thanks John, glad you liked it.
Nice video! Explain very clear all details. Now I feel more confident to do my project. Thanks
Glad it hear it. Thanks for watching and good luck on your project!
Nice video even 3 years old it is still very relevant today. There might be new materials that come out when dealing with electricity but it's basically the same as it has been from the beginning. Sometimes you will hear people refer to it as running water and that the wires are conduits for water diverting it where you need it. All the basic concepts of electricity are the same and is pretty much universal around the world. Except here in the United States almost everything we use is 110 where in Europe it's 220 for some reason.
I definitely hit the like and subscribe button. I always feel it's the right thing to do if I'd like someone's video and I did like yours. Look forward to watching more.
Thanks David. I agree, though there are some code changes coming in my area soon so I may have to update the video. Thanks for liking and subscribing. I appreciate it.
Thank you for putting this video on. Good job explaining. Best one I seen on utube
Thanks! I appreciate that. Hope you got some good info out of it. Thanks for watching 😄
Straight to the point and concise. Thank you!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
Great explanation! Totally would make me confident to do this project myself. However, I am going to hire a professional because I’ll need one down the road for more complex projects. It’s good to know what’s involved with this project so I can evaluate the performance of the professional. 👍
Great idea Chris. I'm glad you got something out of it. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Precise and exactly what I was looking for!
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
Me too,,,,
Excellent Work!! awesome video!
Thanks Aaron and thanks for watching!
Awesome. Great job. Nice job on the graphics and the stop motion video.
Was that stop motion or just high speed?
Thanks John. I'm glad you liked it. The majority of the video was Timelapse with a little bit on animation thrown in. Thanks for watching!
You hit this one out of the park!
Thanks! I appreciate that.
Súper simple video straight to the point thank you 🙏🏻 awesome 👏🏻 job😎👍🏻
Thanks Joe!
thanks for your time invested on the making of this very well explained video, God's bless!!!
No problem Marco. Thanks for watching!
I wish to commend you on your attention to safety.
Well done
Construction safety rep
George
Thank you. I try and be as safe as I can. Thanks for watching!
Wow, this is really, really well done. I like your style, subscribed today.
Thanks, I appreciate that!
Freeze plugs work great for knockout plug mistakes, they make them in all sorts of metal from aluminum to copper steel
Nice idea. Thanks for watching!
It's a minor safety thing because it shouldn't matter if you have disconnected the panel properly, but the safest thing to do is to attach to the outlet before attaching to the breaker panel. Otherwise the risk of accidental shorting during install is much higher
Good tip. Thanks for sharing Chris. I'll remember that for next time. Thanks for watching!
only thing I would do different is the cover. the cover is meant for a surface mount box. all you need is a double gang mud ring and a flush mount cover, similar one you wound find on a typical wall outlet. the plug will then fit flush with the wall
Thanks You. That is the way I should have done it. I appreciate the feedback. Thanks for watching!
great explanation
Thanks Dan, I appreciate you watching.
Super helpful. Thank you!
Anytime Dadila, glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
Succinct and easy to understand. Thanks.
You got it Earl. Thanks for watching.
This is a great video!!!
Thanks, I appreciate you saying so.
Brovo...now that's correct.simple, straitforward facts.exelent job.
Thanks Oliver!
Great video...Thank you
Thanks T, anytime!
I am a pretty in-depth DIY guy. My 90 amp welder isn't getting the job done. It's time to put a 220 in my garage.
I just know I am going to hear a loud pop when I flip the switch. LOL
Nice job.
Thanks Scooter!
Thank you for sharing
Anytime!
awesome, thanks for sharing.
No problem. Thanks for watching!
This is the same procedure for a generator circuit installation. 2 pole breaker upper right closest to MAIN breaker and a mechanical INTERLOCK KIT and I always run #6 (generator) wire. So it can be a 50 amp (or 30 amp) (depends on Generator output)
And also you always wire the dead side first then hook up to the panel. And lastly you don’t just flip the breaker. You want to get your eyes and face away and wear a glove when you’re energizing
great video thanks.
Anytime Robert! Thanks for taking the time to watch.
3 style tips.
1) work away from the panel first. The recepticle wires have zero power with nothing connected in the panel.
2). Connection order
Ground - neutral - hots
Reverse to disconnect.
Ground is a safety wire
Connecting the neutrals before the hots prevents a hot neutral.
3). Metal boxes need to be connected to the ground wire. Believe it or not, some "yo-ho" managed to get a hot to touch the metal box and without the ground connected, the box was a giant energized hot wire that shocked someone.
Great tips Keith. I especially like the wire connection order one. For #3 I have since attached a lug to the back of the box and run a #10 wire for ground. That is sufficient correct? I'm going to try and make a follow up video to show that. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingOutBack yes, 2020 NEC table 250.122 shows 10 copper or 8 Al foot to 60 amps.
Thank u great video I appreciate it!
Cheers!
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Great video. Just one thing to point out, however, that's pretty critical. The outlet you chose, while it is indeed a NEMA 14-50, is the cheap kind you find in a big box store, the kind people plug a dryer in. The problem is, if you're charging, for example, a Tesla battery, you could have current running through the plug for 4-10 hours straight. That $9 plug simply isn't designed to have energy running through it for that long. If you search, you'll see a number of these plugs have melted, sometimes causing fires.
You'll want to buy an industrial grade NEMA 14-50 plug. They're way more expensive. I paid $80 for one made by a company called Hubbell. They also make the Bryant version, which is the same thing, but just a different brand name. Just as good (it's really the same plug) and you can often find those for $40-50. Bottom line, make sure you find one designed for EV charging, not the $9 ones.
That's a good point Mr. Don't. I mostly use mine for a welder and my band saw which I only use for a few minutes at a time. If I ever upgrade to an EV I'll be sure to look up the better outlets. Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!
thank you for this. Very easy to follow. Can you give me any idea of how much parts cost?
Sure thing. All together (breaker, box, cover, whip, outlet, and wire) cost me $50 at Home Depot. I had a very short outlet run so keep that in mind. Thanks for watching!
To turn the breaker box off completely you said there’s a a switch inside the house? How about turning the main breaker switch to the off position? Would that be good enough to turn it all off and work on it?
Also the red and black wire to the breaker switch. Does it matter which wire goes to which? And which wire goes to which on the outlet connection? Thanks! Great video
Yes, I believe shutting off the breaker to the panel would be sufficient to installer the breaker, but I'm overly cautious with electricity. I don't believe which hot wire goes to which pole of the breaker makes a difference. Thanks for watching!
Style point: as an electrical guy, I never get shocked, just "turned on"!
So, work in recepticle first, the the panel to ensure Noone shuts your breaker by accident.
That's a good one. I'll have to use that. Thanks for the tip and thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. It was well explained . I know what to do but I think I will call a local electrician to do this since I don’t want to take any risks . Can you help to add all items links from Home Depot or Lowe’s ? Thank you so much .
That's a good idea. I'll see if I can find links to all the parts and put them in the description. Thanks for watching!
Great video thank you new suscriptor
Anytime Ruben! Thanks for watching.
FYI sub-panels like this one will have separate Ground and Neutral bars. The main panel they will be the same.
Interesting Matt. I wonder why that is. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingOutBack this guy explains it really well. ua-cam.com/video/5iEuaAYs5x4/v-deo.html
great video You could of use just 6/3 romex wire and a mud ring since i am assuming that you are going to install the drywall back
Yes indeed, great suggestion Victor. TY, and thanks for watching!
Excellent video! I am guessing you are not replacing the drywall below the panel. If you are, you should replace the surface cover with a 1/2" raised mud ring and a flush cover plate. Just to be 100% NEC compliant. Again, great video!
Thanks Kevin. That's a good idea. I will be repairing the sheetrock so I will definitely change those out. Thanks for watching!
this is one of the best youtube videos I ever seen in how to install a 50amp receptacle, I will be installing a 50amp single pole so this means I will only use one hot wire right? thank you.
I'm not sure on that one. I would check with an electrician. Thanks for watching!
Yes, single pole only uses one hot leg or 120v
Joe Nostroza I started designing electrical systems in 1983. In all of those years I never came across a use for 120 volt 50 amp circuit or a NEMA 4-50r receptacle. Please tell me what uses this size branch circuit.
Respectfully, Kevin
Nice!
Thanks, glad you liked it.
Somebody probably already mentioned it, but you need to ground the metal work box.
Yes sir, we did find that out through some comments. Added a lug and all is good now. Thanks for chiming in with good info, and thanks for watching!
I missed the part in the video where you bonded the metal outlet box to the grounding system
Ahh, that's because I didn't. Someone mentioned it in the comments and I added a lug later. Good catch, and thanks for watching!
Always use Hubble brand when installing 50 amp 240 volt receptacles. Cheap $10 big box store brands are made in china and have a very good chance of melting. Tesla requires the Hubble brand on their charger outlets also. You get what you pay for. Hubble uses more copper than any other brand.
Good tip Bill! I'll look for it next time I work on it. Thanks for watching!
This type of outlet was installed for me by a professional but what i have been noticing in other videos is the installing portion of the interlock switch. Just for my own sanity and mental health (lol) is the interlock not needed for this type of outlet?
I believe the interlock switch is only required on a 50A outlet if it's something like a generator connection to make sure you get your power only from the grid or a generator and never both. The one I installed is used to run a large bandsaw. Of course take my advice with a grain of salt because I am not a pro. Thanks for watching!
This video is awesome! Does anyone know the pros/cons of running 4 THHN wires like this vs. running a single 6/3 NM-B Wire w/ Ground?
Thanks Max. Unfortunately, I'm not sure. I went with mine because it was a very small run and it's what I had around. Hopefully someone else will answer your question. Thanks for watching!
Yeah, I’m interested in this question also, is six gauge the correct gauge wire for 50 amp service?
Thanks for the video.What if the outlet does not have a neutral connection? Would you just cap the neutral ? Thanks
Honestly I have no idea on that one. I know all houses in the US must have a neutral by code, but I'm not sure about older constructions. I've read you can add a neutral, but I guess it depends on how much you want to spend. I would definitely talk to a professional for this one. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good luck and thanks for watching?
Maple Ridge Farm You can cap it, or not install the conductor. You do not have to remove it. Leave it connected at neutral bar and cap the end in the box.
Most all the YT videos I watched did not use the Common wire. Yours is the first. Why do you use the common wire when all others are using the two hot and ground?
From what I've read online, if your outlet has four prongs you need to connect all four wires from the breaker box. 240 will still work without the neutral, but it's not "to code". Keep in mind I'm not an electrician and don't really know what I'm doing. Contact a local pro to get the official word. Thanks for watching!
Have you considered replacing the breaker with a GFCI breaker? And have you considered replacing the outlet with a higher quality, much more expensive breaker?
I have a new double oven that wont sit flush against the wall due to the outlet. Is it possible to install the outlet in a recessed area to allow the plug and cord to sit inside?
I'm not sure. I have seen other styles of plugs that are recessed, but not the 50A we used in the project. I would check with a pro on that one. Thanks for watching!
@CuttingOutBack hello I'm trying to buy the conduit cables and I found some that are 6 awg red white and black but the green one is 10 awg. Does the green one have to be 6 awg as well?
Honestly, I'm not sure. I've had people tell me both, but I suppose thicker wire couldn't be bad. I would check with a local electrician just to be safe. Thanks for watching!
I am from Tajikistan in our city one phase 220V as installing nema,
Did you have to ground the box with a ground screw inside the metal box?
Yes, after getting many comments about it I used a lug to ground the box to a smaller gauge ground wire (I believe 10 gauge) If I ever make a follow up video it will be in there. Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment!
It didn’t look like you torqued down the connections. Did you end up going back and doing that?
Especially with stranded wire that needs to be torqued a few times to prevent it from coming loose.
Nice catch Ten, you're right. I went back later and torqued it down. It's a very important point, thanks for commenting, and thanks for watching!
My house was built in 2005 and the panel is next to wall outside garage wall. I dont have to go through ceiling right, I can just run a cable from outside of wall into garage wall. what type of conduect should I use since about 6-8ft of pipe will be run on outside garage before going into garage. I will be buying an electric car soon and also an electric heater to heat up my 3 car garage/man cave. wanna have this 240V ready before christmas:) I have seen many youtube videos where they place electric heater up high close to ceiling on a corner and also the 240V up in the wall. Since I will be using it to plug in electric car and electric heater whenever I am playing pool in garage should i install it to the hight of the other 120v outlets? Also any advice before installation?
Best ask a local expert on that one. I think the install for an electric heater would be similar, but it depends on the heater and what size breaker it requires. I think those units usually have instructions that spell out all that is needed. I couldn't find a lot of info about the height for outlets in the garage so again check with a local expert. Good luck with your project and thanks for watching!
Good video. I have a 3 car garage/ man cave fully insulated, ceilings too and even the garage doors. Garage is about 660 sq ft with 8ft celing hight. The lowest tempature during Christmas will be 37 degrees farenhight. My questions is if I install a 5000-7000w electric heater, I have to installed a 240v outlet too right or it can be just hardwired??
Eventually I will buy a minisplit system and be getting rid of the electric heater. Will I be able to use the 240v outlet previously installed for electric heater when I install mini split in future??
Also we will be getting an electric car down the road so I will need a 240v outlet to charge car so what will be the correct pathway for my projects, install a 240v right now for electric heater so I have heater in man cave before Christmas or maybe just use propane heater just for that day🙄 until I figure out what minisplit system to buy??
Sorry for all the questions
Not at all. I'm not an expert, but I would suggest finding the heater you want to use first. Most of the ones I've seen for garages aren't that large and work with 240v 30A outlets or are hard wired 240v. If you could find one that runs off a 50A plug and use that for electric vehicle in the future that would be the least amount of change you would have to do. Then again you would have to hard wire a mini split in your next stage anyway. It's a toss up, but select your heater first and go from there. BTW, if you put in the 50A outlet make sure you ground the metal box. That's been something I've learned from the comments. Good luck and thanks for watching.
@@CuttingOutBack I thinkni will go the 240 30A for just electric heater right now. I found one already. So if I go this route iam assuming when I get rid of electric heater and iam ready to installed minisplit I can use the same line of the 240v previously installed right? And iam assuming I will need to run a separate line to install another 240v to charge my electric vehicle? It won't be a Tesla it will be something else, maybe a Nissan leaf or something else but no Tesla.
Sounds right, but I'm no expert. At least you'll be warm in the near term. Good luck!
@@CuttingOutBack thank u. Its OK if ur not expert but u know a lot more than I do. Thank u for ur great advice
What I don't understand is the amperage rating thing.
Is that one piece 50A breaker switch equivalent to two separate breaker switches 50A each and hooked up to L1 and L2 or is it equivalent to 25A each two separate switches?
That is my question.
If I had two separate switches and not one, what Amperage should each one be?
From what I understand each pole has the rating of the overall breaker. That way if either hot wire draws more than 50A the breaker trips. Take that with a grain of salt from a non-pro. Thanks for watching.
I'm curious as to whether you in fact used 6 gauge wire and if you did how were you able for it to be so flexible? Thanks!
I did. It was a real pain getting it into the conduit and making that one turn. Later I found out I only needed 10 gauge as the ground so I took the ground out and replaced it with the smaller wire. Also, this is stranded wire so it's supposed to be a little flexible. Thanks for watching!
So the point of the neutral on this 240 volt receptacle is for such things as RV's that may require a connection for both 240 volt and 120 volt stuff at the same time?
I'm not sure about that. I'm using it for large machinery and a welder. They take 240v. Thanks for watching!
I'm trying to figure out the same thing and came across an answer similar to what you are describing. A dryer for example, uses 240 for all things except perhaps the display and buzzer. Same I suppose for RVs.
Hi, does the 4 inch box itself need to be grounded? Or is it that the outlet makes a ground connection with the box?
On most metal boxes, I've seen a green screw with a ground pigtail; in what situations is that required?
A few people have pointed that out on this video. From what I understand is the outlet itself grounds to the metal box, but some local codes may require you to run a separate ground to the box itself using a grounding screw like you described. This is one of those things a pro or the inspector could gives you better details. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingOutBack Thanks so much for responding!!
i need help finding a solution. i got a good deal on a Lincoln AC225 arc welder designed to run on 50amp. I've been told i cannot use my 50amp generator to power this and it's true. when striking the welding rod it makes not much more flicker than a match. the heat just isn't there to burn the rod. the power cord is 3 wires black/white/green. so if i install a dryer plug on it and plug into the 230volt 30amp dryer outlet it welds fine even though the lincoln is designed to run on 50amps and a lot of people do this. all household dryers get 230v with double breakers but using 3 wires not 4. the generator is a westinghouse 9500 running/12500 peak 120v/240v with a 50amp outlet identical to the outlet you connected to the residential panel. the math says it should it should run the arc welder. I believe the generator has the fourth red wire to its outlet, but the welder lacks the fourth red wire to get the second 120v from the outlet. the generator has 2 windings both 120v each and a digital display indicates 240v is being supplied to its outlet. this Lincoln arc welder model has existed for something like 50yrs and i don't find anyone else wonder why it can't be powered by a generator.
Oh wow Robbie, that's a good question. I can only guess it has something to do with how the generator provides its power. I know there are mobile welders who have generators to power their gear, but maybe you need a certain kind or capacity. Wish I knew the answer, but maybe someone else in the comments will see it and chime in with the right answer. Thanks for watching, I hope you find your answer!
I want to replace a 120 outlet for a 240, you think the wiring is thick enough for the 240? Or do I have to rewire?
It's all about the amperage. Should be fine replacing the same rated outlet, but check with a pro just to make sure.
how do i know identify ground and neutral on panel ?
There's probably a better way, but I just looked at the existing wiring and the bar with all the green wires is ground and the one with all the white wires is neutral. I'm not an expert so you may want to do some more searching on that one. Thanks for watching!
Constantly inserting and removing the plug, calls for a heavy duty receptacle?
I don't think so. It's heavy duty because I'll be using a high amperage motor in this outlet.
I recently bought a 1993 Allegro Bay Motor Home and I cannot find the Circuit Breaker Box can you please help me
Unfortunately I don't know much about those. I'm sure there's another UA-cam video that covers it.
What to do if I only have a Red, Black, and a White wire?
Hmm, not sure. I think you need all four for this particular setup. You may want to ask a pro on that one. Thanks for watching!
If it was so difficult running the wires through that conduit, were there too many wires for conduit fill rating?
I don't think so, but that would explain a lot. The table I looked up online said 3/4" conduit can take 4 #6 wires. I could have totally looked at the wrong column though. Thanks for watching!
Four #6 thwn wires in 3/4” conduit is about 36% fill. You are allowed 40%, so all is good
I appreciate you chiming in Ref. Thanks for watching!
Did you ground your metal outlet box?
I did with a lug and I switched to a 10 gauge ground wire. I'm going to make an update video where I share all the things I learned from the UA-cam comments. Thanks for checking and thanks for watching!
They sell liquid conduit at the depot that is ready to install
Liquid conduit?
Electrician here, nice job. Could have used a #8 ground and would have been easier with straight connecter. Since you installed below the panel, in the same stud space I would have used NMB. But I know the box store won't sell a chunk.
Thanks b, I appreciate that. Good idea, I'll keep it in mind for next time. Thanks for watching!
1. 6-50 or 14-50 doesn't care which hot goes where? They are interchangeable?
2. Do you have to use the ground in the box? I'm using outdoor weatherproof boxes that have a ground termination inside the box. (Edit: found answer in your comments, will use the ground terminations)
Also, that knockout plug is so cheap. I'd feel more secured using a piece of aluminum tape, which I intend to do since my 1" threaded outlet box only came with 2 plugs even though it has 5 outlets.
Hey Swiss, I believe that's correct. Red and Black are both hot and go in either brass connector. The insert I got to plug the hole is actually pretty thick metal. I worry a tape wouldn't be thick enough or at the very least won't meet code. Take all this with a grain of salt though as I am not a professional electrician. Ask a local one to get the real answer. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingOutBack Sorry, I just mean as far as any intrusion like water or dirt over time. Thanks for the reply.
Anytime!
@@CuttingOutBack Any advice on how to get 2x 6 gauge wires on the ground screw? Not sure why this is so hard to look up but I just can't figure out the right key words to search for an answer on this.
Edit: I see some people stripping just a section of sleeve in the middle of the wire, guess I'll try that.
I suggest stripping the center of the wire and putting it through a "lug" you attach to the ground screw. Also, from what I understand you can run 10 gauge as the ground. That is something I didn't know before the video. Lug will work for either though.
how do you recover the wall that you cut out?
With great care :)
Is the 6 gauge wire solid or stranded? It doesnt mention or show the wiring ends.
I was trying to purchase the wiring but found stranded in store.
It is stranded. #6 THHN stranded. You can use #10 for the grounding wire only. That will make it fit in the conduit more easily. Good luck! Thanks for watching.
@@CuttingOutBack Awesome thank you so much.
What Awg do u use to 50amp?
#6 I believe. Thanks for watching!
The link was for the double pole 50A breaker. Can you add the link to the outlet itself ?
I think it was this one. www.homedepot.com/p/Leviton-50-Amp-Flush-Mount-Shallow-Single-Outlet-Black-R10-00279-S00/300324414
@@CuttingOutBack awesome, thanks !
Anytime, thanks for watching!
Do i actually need #6 wire for a 50 amp RV plug?
I'm not an expert, but from what I've seen online #6 is the minimum. If your run is longer you may even go #4 or #2 depending on how far it is. Check with a pro about your specific project. Good luck with it!
@@CuttingOutBack You are right on. #6 minimum but depends on the length of the run.
What do you do if someone starts your generator while it's pluged into the generator, but not into the outlet box. That end of the wire has male contacts sticking out that could electocute someone.
Consider a PBN50 inlet box and a CS6365 Generator Power Cord Connector for 50 amps or a PBN30 inlet box CS6364C Power Cord Plug Adapter for 30 amps.
Hey Gilbert. I don't have a generator hooked up to this outlet. This is an outlet I use for powering a welder or other large piece of machinery. I understand your concern about exposed pins if this was an input from a generator, but in this case it is not. Thanks for watching!
About generators, to be clear, it is VERY dangerous to use this type of connection for a generator!!!! It's also illegal!
You should ALWAYS use a generator switch or input panel. This isolates the main and generator power from each other. On panel that I installed, the switches have main/off/generator. Connecting generator power directly to your panel by any means can kill a lineman while he is fixing the power line or power your neighborhood, or cause your generator to explode when the main power comes back on. People have killed others, burned down their homes, garages, carports etc.! The $400 I spent on the correct panel to connect my generator was much cheaper than replacing anything that could be destroyed or a life. I also ran a remote input to a small shed at the back of my garage ( ventilated ). Now if the power goes out, I simply start the generator and flip the switches to generator. Everything but the oven works since I have gas heat and water heater.
@@tomtomlinson8914 Hey Tom, I agree with everything you said. A generator hookup should never be done like this. Fortunately this is an outlet for a welder, or EV, or large piece of machinery and not an input to the system that would call for a different setup. Thanks for watching.
@@CuttingOutBack I just wanted to put that out there because of the previous comments about "what if someone starts the generator". Scary ignorance!
Wondering why you didn’t just go straight from the top of the recep box to the bottom of the panel.
Good question. The conduit I bought came with a straight end and a 90 degree end so I just used it as it was. If I bought the conduit components individually I probably would have gone straight. Thanks for the question, and thanks for watching!
@@CuttingOutBack how high is your recep off the floor?
@@Genesislights Not sure. I'd have to measure. Is there a minimum?
@@CuttingOutBack depends on the jurisdiction, just wondering. Most that follow NEC 2020 needs minimum 18” off the floor
@@Genesislights Gotcha. I'd say 30" or so, but I will check local code just in case. Thanks again for bringing that to my attention.
Are you going to leave the cut-out panel open like it is? I am waiting for you to see how you cover it.
I will be replacing the drywall and changing the outlet along the lines of what Kevin Coop said in the comments. Not sure if I will do a follow up video on it though. Thanks for watching!
You forgot to ground the metal box buddy. Apart from that great job
Thanks Leigh, good catch. I do have a question though. The outlet I used says it's self-grounding. From what I understand the ground pin also connects to the metal mounting plate which connects to the metal box. I double checked it was grounded by testing continuity from the ground pin to the box. Would that suffice as grounding from a code standpoint or do you have to connect the green wire itself separately to the metal box? Thanks for the feedback and thanks for watching!
The way it’s connected you are relying on the screws between the cover plate and the metal box for grounding. These screws can be removed ( not very lightly once all assembled I agree but anyway). The code for continuity and attachment of equipment grounding conductors to metal boxes 250.148 says....... where circuit conductors are spliced or terminated on equipment in the box, equipment grounding conductors must terminate to the box. I hope this helps.
@@leighhawkins6732 That makes sense. I have to open the box to retighten the connections anyway. I will be adding that connection when I do.
Just a thought.... since you will need to connect such a large wire to the box, Home Depot and Lowe’s sell “copper mechanical lugs” which will allow you to connect the ground very easily. They usually cost around $2. Good luck
Leigh Hawkins can you share the Home Depot or Lowe’s link to the item ?
waht does awg mean. if i want to do this do i have to get like 10 awg cables
AWG stands for American Wire Gauge. I used #6 AWG THHN wires for mine. I would check with your local building codes and ask a licensed electrician just i case. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingOutBack ok thanks i am looking to do this for an electric vehicle charger drawing 40amps at 240volts so i should be fine
@@mohammedayesh3927 #10 wire is only suitable for 30A outlets (24A charge current continuous). You need #8 minimum for a 40A outlet (32A charge current continuous), but the distance of your connection may mandate #6 wire (#6 wire is also needed for a 50A outlet, which would give you 40A of charge current).
Hi there ,you forgot to ground the metal box and hot-ground voltage was not tested as well.
Thanks Jun, someone had also mentioned that in a previous comment. This outlet says it's self grounding with a metal box, but people have said to just add a ground to the box itself. I'm not sure what the hot to ground test would do other than confirm the ground and neutral are bonded at the box. Does that make sense? Thanks for watching and thanks for the feedback.
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where do you live? are you home outlets 120 v ?
USA outlets are 110. Last time I checked anyway. Thanks for watching!
Wow i thought that the neutral and ground were the same thing😕
Different purposes, but I can see why you would say that. Thanks for watching!
You never grounded the junction box
10kW? What for?
Sorry, not sure what you're asking.
Your not an electrician?!?!?! Wut U duin playin with electric?!?!?!!! Lolol!!! just kidding man, good vid thanks, I need to hook up one for welding machine and it’s just what I needed to see,, each time I hook up 240 I have to refresh my memory,,,,,, I keep forgetting about neutral right side and ground left. Good explanation…
Thanks Randy, glad you liked it. BTW, if you go the route I did make sure to ground the metal box. That's the one thing that's not in the video. Thanks for watching!
@@CuttingOutBack affirmative,, but the box and all is set, just need to run a power for my mig to the other end of my shop and I don’t run building outlets often, needed a memory refresher thanks man,,
If I get shocked will my hair grow back ?? Asking for a friend 😬🥴
Can it really be? A video that just gets to the point? Say it ain't so!!!
Glad the pacing worked for you, and thanks for watching!